What's the best part of Riverdale?

"Who." When you use a relative pronoun referring to people, you need to use the word "who," not "what," idiot.

Other. Moose and DILF Sheriff Keller's sexy gravely voice.

Thinking of KJ fucking Cole.

My choices are KJ Apa, Casey Cott, Madelaine Petch, and Mädchen Amick.

Another vote for Moose!

I just can't with Apa and his whiny voice. Plus he has no presence.

[quote]"Who." When you use a relative pronoun referring to people, you need to use the word "who," not "what," idiot.

Pixy Stix Straws are objects included in the list as an option, and are not people, so "what" is actually in this context correct as "who" would not be.

Idiot.

I'm surprised KJ Apa, who is so inexpressive, is getting so much love here; but of course it must be for his body which is so prominently featured in the show.

I'm glad Camilla Mendes is getting some love. She is absolutely excellent as Veronica.

I didn’t even make the poll? I’m America’s sweetheart, you cunts.

Betty, you DID make the poll! You are happily included in the category of "Other."

People voting for KJ clearly don’t watch the show. He’s so uninteresting. It’s all about Veronica and Jughead.

Well, actually, this season it's all about Betty too, but the actress who plays her isn't very memorable.

Just started watching. Cole Sprouse is hot as shit.

Sweet Pea repeatedly penetrating Jughead as part of the initiation.

I want so suck on Jughead's smooth asshole.

Is Jughead any less mopey and monotone this year?

I'm still on Season 1 but why are there so many gingers in Riverdale and why don't they have any modern appliances like smart phones or computers?

Fieldston is the very BEST part of Riverdale.

I'm sure I've seen them use smartphones on the show.

I like the girl who plays Betty

Betty is so much like the Andi character from Dawson's Creek. Its like the same person.

I want Moose and Kevin to be together

I think the casting of both Betty and Veronica is nail-on-the-head perfect. I read Archie comics and both of those actresses seem to have walked right out of the comic books even with the changes that were made. Betty is a girl next door by design, but I think the actress who plays her does it with just the right amount of knowing campiness.

Lol putting women on DL polls. OP you are hilarious.

I think the only things I dislike about the series is that Kevin Keller is such a collection of gay stereotypes that he is nothing more than that, and Reggie is supposed to be a major antagonist and he’s hardly ever seen.

Kevin Keller/Casey Cott and Moose on the DL is my favourite story line.. Would love to see that happen.

R26 It was hardly a storyline, just a little shiny object on the side of the road. I wish Kevin were more of a major B character like Cheryl or even her dead brother, but I don’t know if the role was very well cast. I’m not sure if it’s more the writing or the way Kevin is played, but he lacks any depth and has little charisma. I read Archie pre-Kevin, so I don’t know how integrated he is with the lives of the four leads in the comics. Cheryl was always a “special guest star” and kind of a foil to make Veronica seem a little more down to Earth. Even though Archie was the center of everything, he always seemed dense and kind of puppylike, just chasing girls and sports and being an ambitious underachiever. Betty and Veronica and their friendship always felt like the heart of the series to me.

The best part is definitely not Mark Consuelos. Hot AF but damn he is a horrible actor.

Hes a fine actor R28.

Madchen and Madelaine bring some much needed camp to this mess. They should have been cast on Dynasty.

I just watched the first three episodes of the original Twin Peaks...SO cute to see Madchen Ami so young! I didn’t know her at all until Riverdale.

I do love Riverdale. As an avid childhood Archie comics fan, it took some getting used to, but they’ve created a wickedly fun alternate universe.

I think someone here on DL asked where Riverdale is set in the US a while ago. I always wondered as a kid because in the comics, the neighborhoods have trees that look like middle America (definitely nowhere on the West Coast), yet the gang would take short drives to mountains for skiing, to the beach, to big cities, as if all were within a 30-60 minute trip. So I wrote to Archie Comics and their answer was that Riverdale is simply Riverdale, USA. It’s not in a state. BUT the comics were created and the company is still located in Mamaroneck, NY, and so that location influenced writers’ experiences, and it’s relatively close to lots of different types of terrain. But the bottomline is that Archie was intended to reflect any average, underachieving and girl-crazy teen boy, Betty every good girl, Veronica every vixen, Reggie every vixen, Jughead every slacker, and Riverdale is Anywhere, USA. The series has defined characters a lot more than the comics overall did. The thing I love about it though is that (true to the comics) all the kids are flawed, but all of them have really good intentions and try to be decent people against all odds (and hormones and social dynamics and parents).

Just started watching and had to laugh -- half of Kevin Keller's lines are right off of DL.

KJ is hot but sooooo vacant.

Lili Reinhart looks like someone else and I can't place it. Maybe Scarlett Johansson back during her Ghost World days?

This is a show I can only watch with the sound off. So, KJ.

KJ for me is the weak link of the show. He is a very odd choice for Archie Andrews, who was always a gawky, average teenager and not an Abercrombie model type, and KJ also just doesn’t have much (any) charisma or magnetism. It’s like they cast him because he has a (dime a dozen) worked out body (of a 25 year old, not a 16 year old), and then dyed his hair red. Archie Andrews in the comics is not a deep thinker in any respect, but he’s magnetic enough to be everyone’s friend. In the show, he’s a golem who seems to be there mainly to take off his clothes.

The casting of Betty and Veronica is PERFECT. Jughead is great considering the changes they made to the character. Dilton is good, if creepy.

I can’t assess how Kevin compares because he was introduced after I aged out of readibg the comics, but TBH I am disappointed with Kevin. By 2018, I would hope the token gay, if there has to be one, would be more than a collection of stereotypes, dick hunting and sassy bon mots. I can’t even tell if thw actor who plays Kevin is a good actor because the character is such a superficial all-purpose homo that all the actor can do with that is play a toned down version of Jack from Will and Grace.

Oh and as a former Archie Comics fanatic, I do love that the teen characters use language beyond their years. That’s straight from the comics—classic movie-type sophisticated banter between characters (which translates to camp when spoken by high school students), vocabularies and literary references beyond their years. I loved that aspect of the comics because I always researched those references and got a pretty broad knowledge base as a result.

I also wonder how many viewers of the show pick up that it’s produced in such a way as to intentionally come across as an unrealistic comic book world. For example, Archie’s, Cheryl’s and her brother’s red hair are meant to look colored (comically), not as if they are actual redheads. Betty is intentionally dressed in silly All American naive-ingenue pink sweaters with hearts on them—that’s the comic book coming through. I respect that the show is overtly styled in such a way as to stand apart from reality.

I get that the show wants to be camp, but they overdo it with Kevin. He sometimes sounds like the gay characters Robin Williams would do in his 80s stand-up, "Gurl those SHOES do not go with those PANTS!"

They overdo it with the constant cultural references and with Luke Perry and Madchen Amick too, but it's not about stereotypes in those cases, just lack of subtlety.

R37 I agree with everything you said*, and for me, the greatest offenses are Kevin overall and the casting of Molly Ringwald as Archie’s mother. It was too forced. Her acting was terrible. And having cast her for that one-off cameo basically eliminated the possibility of making his mother a significant part of the plot, which seems like a huge sacrifice just to get Molly Ringwald onscreen for 10 minutes.

*Any cultural reference with Madchen Amick has gone right over my head.

It's just that Riverdale is so self-consciously "Twin Peaks meets 90210" that half the time when you see either Perry or Amick on screen, you can just hear producers off camera going "See? See? Geddit?"

R39 Meh, as a newcomer to Twin Peaks (just finished season one of the original series), I think Riverdale is an improvement from a storytelling standpoint. I am hoping season 2 of Twin Peaks will bring a little more sublime weirdness and intrigue because season one was like an eccentric Hardy Boys story. Riverdale is much more fun.

This episode is the Twin Peaks-iest in terms of setting and music.

the plots of that show is so bozo I cant bring myself to watch it even for the chicken...

R42 It’s a comic book. Just go with it.

COMIX IS FER RETARDS UNLESS THEY GOTS FRONTALS NUDITAY

Did anyone see Riverdale last night? It opened with a cameo of Andy fukkin Cohen. He played a friend of Hermione Lodge—Veronica’s mother, Hiram’s/Mark Consuelos’s wife. So it looks like Consuelos got his butt buddy Andy an acting gig, and Andy was baaaaaaaad. He really did seem like Paul Lynde if Paul Lynde couldn’t read lines, and he has the same coked-up nervous energy he always has on Bravo. It did not work in the context of the show at all. The premise was bizarre, too: Betty’s father was writing a newspaper story about Hermione Lodge running for mayor of Riverdale, and so Andy Cohen materialized beside Hermione, the mob moll, to say “I can’t think of a better mayor for Riverdale than Hermione Lodge!” And that was all. It seems Andy flew into Riverdale, drove to the Lodge mansion to meet a reporter and endorse a mafia wife to be a small-town mayor.

I like how bizarre the show is, but that was just really fucking lame.