Louis CK's Collapse is COMING

Aren't I the Dickens?

I'm like the sexual predator Angel of Death.

Whatta shocker!

Couldn't have happened to an ickier guy.

LCK has talent, but everything I hear about him points to him being an abusive, narcissistic, sexist, self-righteous asshole.

He did nothing outside of Jewish sexual norms.

Exactly r3. This is a name we all knew was coming. Many voices have already tried to call out Louis CK antics.

Let's get ready for the stories of him masturbating in front of women.

SInce he self-financed this film, he's in really deep shit now. Broke and disgraced.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. (

This is a guy who has a stand up routine about his then elementary school aged daughter sticking her fingers in her vagina. He’s a sick fuck.

I Love You Daddy Thread

I Love You, Daddy is a 2017 American comedy-drama film written and directed by Louis C.K. and starring C.K., Chloë Grace Moretz, Pamela Adlon, John Malkovich, Rose Byrne, Charlie Day, and Helen Hunt. It is C.K.'s first film as director since Pootie Tang, released sixteen years prior. The film had its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival on September 9, 2017. It is scheduled to be released on November 17, 2017, by The Orchard.

A successful TV writer-producer, Glen Topher (Louis C.K.), tries to prevent his 17-year-old daughter (Chloe Grace Moretz) from falling for a lecherous 68-year-old filmmaker (John Malkovich).

Critical reception[edit] On review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 57% based on 21 reviews, with an average rating of 6/10.[10] On Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating to reviews, the film has a weighted average score of 69 out of 100, based on reviews from 10 critics, indicating "generally favorable reviews".[11] The Guardian film critic Peter Bradshaw gave the film a four-star review, calling it a "very funny and recklessly provocative homage to Woody Allen, channelling his masterpiece Manhattan."[12] Variety critic Owen Gleiberman was less positive, saying, "the film meanders, and its second half is shapeless" although he praised the dialogue and cast.[13]

The film pays homage to the cinematic work of Woody Allen, particularly the 1979 film Manhattan. In the Allen film, a 17-year-old girl (Mariel Hemingway) begins a romantic relationship with a 42-year-old man played by Allen.

A common criticism of I Love You, Daddy is that the film parallels that the long-standing sexual abuse allegations against Allen.

"We’re at the bleeding edge of 'That’s not OK to do now,' but those people are still around," C.K. said about dealing with the controversial topics dealt with in the film. "That’s a very interesting line to be on.”

A 51 year age difference and the kid under 18, nice!

Good, he was one of the fucks who declared the word "faggot" is now okay to use and not homophobic - as if he had any right to say such a thing. Literally would rather say stupid shit like that than just stop using it.

could not happen to nicer person

Another open secret that everyone knew about it

"I Love You, Daddy"? This sick fuck actually called his film "I Love You, Daddy"??

He did have a bit on his show about how "f*ggot" actually was not okay to use. It was kind of a mea culpa, I think.

There was something in his most recent stand-up that really made my eyebrows raise, something about how men rape and kill and start wars but it's women who are the REAL evil, because they hurt feelings. I was thinking he was heading toward that whole "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them" thing, but he never did. He just presented it all in a standard "women be bitches" trope.

Hypocrites...all of them that worked with him. They knew of the stories. I can't wait for all the SJW comedians to claim they had no idea.

Isn't he the father of someone's baby?

Did Meryl Streep ever work with him?

Exactly, R9.

These pervs just try to pass off their own pathologies as "sophisticated" art. And some people actually buy that BS line!

I do hope Pamala Adlon’s career doesn’t tank because of this. But I believe he deserves for his transgressions to be outed.

I've always wondered how Adlon got on so well with Louis, especially since her series (co-created by Louis CK) is so unabashedly feminist.

Louis is incredibly talented. His TV show was off the charts good. But he's SUCH a creep. Too bad...

His bit about his daughter’s vagina was creepy

I hope her career does suffer. She knew of the allegations and still worked with him. Louis is the one who got her her own show on FX.

I hope he has never done anything to his daughters.

The rumor is he's the father of one of Amy Poehler's kids, R21.

Why blame her for taking an opportunity r28? It is the entertainment industry which is competitive as hell, she is hardly some big name that can pass on these career making opportunities.

[quote]Louis is incredibly talented.

I think that's the spin we'll get from Adlon and others close to him in the days and weeks to come -- he's troubled but he's so brilliant that we overlooked it.

Portnoy's Complaint by Philip Roth

Portnoy is a horrible character, obsessed by his penis. I have never found toilet humour particularly funny and so you must judge my opinion in that light. if you have heard of Ross O'Kelly Carroll then this is the jewish equivalent. Ross is the cliche Dublin 4, Alex the New Jersey jew. Sitting on his physchiatrist couch bemoaning his parents. His mother threatened him with the knife if he won't eat. He spends his teen and adult years either masturbating anywhere and anytime or with the fair Protestant college girls or his dumb but sexually insatiable model.

Portnoy is condesending and obsessed, unlikeable in a Woody Allen style obsession with self and sex. The novel is dated as no doubt it was titillatingly scandalous of its time but frankly it is boring. The long rambling rant eventually grates. This book would be better as a novella, the theme and characters are interesting to start with but the problem is that it becomes repetitious and boring. It wanders back and forward from childhood to love affair, from Monkey the model to Pumpkin or Pilgrim the debutantes.

Portnoy repeats himself and becomes gratingly tedious. I suffered to the end, only so I could justify my rant, and gained nothing from it. Judging by the number of positive reviews here I am perhaps missing the point. For me who also hates Woody Allen films this is toilet humour at its worst. If you like the images of a teenage boy humping raw liver, his sisters used underwear and just about anything else while his mother hammers on the bathroom door demanding to see his stool then read on.

He's one of those people like Lars von Trier whose work I respect (In Louis' case, I found his comedy series on FX very funny) but who are total creeps in real life and who I would never want to meet or get to know outside of their on-screen output.

I agree with R31. As long as she wasn't an active predator, I don't think it is reasonable to tar every person who has worked with these predators or ignored the rumors.

Hollywood's main purpose is to be a safe haven for predators. The art produced is just a cover for all this illicit activity such as child sex rings. So basically everyone in Hollywood could be considered "tainted".

But Americans in general can also be considered "tainted". Americans mostly didn't say a thing to Barbara Walters when she told Corey Feldman he was "hurting" Hollywood by talking about pedophilia.

We are all kind of complicit because we lived in a culture that was okay with ignoring these things. We have to forgive ourselves and strive to be better. But we have to deal with the actual predators.

R15 are you a woman?

Honestly I hope Adlon's career DOES suffer because of it. She has worked so closely with him over the years it would be absolutely insane to think she was ignorant to the rumors or to his actual behavior. I would be willing to bet that she was 100% aware of it and probably thought it was funny as she secretly hates women herself.

Louis C.K. film premiere cancelled and actor pulled from late night ahead of NY Times story about his personal life

The premiere for Louis C.K's new film 'I Love You Daddy' has been cancelled just hours before the director and star of the film was set to walk the red carpet on Thursday. This unexpected move comes as The New York Times prepares to release a story about the comedian, who has been accused of sexual misconduct in the past. Louis C.K. was also pulled from a planned appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert on Thursday according to The Hollywood Reporter, with William H. Macy being asked to fill in for the actor.

The 50-year-old actor is the father of two teenage daughters with his ex-wife of 13 years, painter Alix Bailey who he divorced in 2008. He has cited Woody Allen and Bill Cosby as two of his comedy idols.

I can’t stand Adlon. I hope both their careers go down in flames over this NYT piece. She’s been working with CK for years and years, there’s no way she didn’t know how gross this person was/is.

When’s the article coming out?

He has cited Woody Allen and Bill Cosby as two of his comedy idols.

Not surprising.

Good. Never liked him. Always creeped me out

A lot of poorly timed and "should not have been made" films causing crisis mode for lots of industry people this year.

I remember last year Jessica Lange was on Charlie Rose, and when asked about Louis CK (whom she's worked with, appearing a few times on a show he had) was singing his praises... wonder what she'll make of the revelations, or whether she heard the rumors, since it was pretty open..

Ugh. This sucks. He’s a major talent. I’ll actually be sad to see this.

I love Adlon’s show, and it is heavily imprinted by CK. He co-writes, writes, and directs episodes. He’s heavily involved. It would be a real shame if he takes it and her down. I hope she doesn’t attempt to defend him, because FX will drop her.

The NYT story.

NYT:

Louis C.K. Crossed a Line Into Sexual Misconduct, 5 Women Say

In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial.

As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”

NYT:

At the same time, Louis C.K. has also boosted the careers of women, and is sometimes viewed as a feminist by fans and critics. But Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov said that when they told others about the incident in the Colorado hotel room, they heard that Louis C.K.’s manager was upset that they were talking about it openly. The women feared career repercussions. Louis C.K.’s manager, Dave Becky, was adamant in an email that he “never threatened anyone.”

For comedians, the professional environment is informal: profanity and raunch that would be far out of line in most workplaces are common, and personal foibles — the weirder the better — are routinely mined for material. But Louis C.K.’s behavior was abusive, the women said.

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Ms. Wolov said.

NYT:

Ms. Corry, a comedian, writer and actress, has long felt haunted by her run-in with Louis C.K. In 2005, she was working as a performer and producer on a television pilot — a big step in her career — when Louis C.K., a guest star, approached her as she was walking to the set. “He leaned close to my face and said, ‘Can I ask you something?’ I said, ‘Yes,’” Ms. Corry said in a written statement to The New York Times. “He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me.” Stunned and angry, Ms. Corry said she declined, and pointed out that he had a daughter and a pregnant wife. “His face got red,” she recalled, “and he told me he had issues.”

Word quickly reached the show’s executive producers, Courteney Cox and David Arquette, who both confirmed the incident. “What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Ms. Cox said in an email, adding that she felt “outrage and shock.”

Louis to announce he's entering rehab in 3...2...1...

NYT:

A fifth woman, who spoke on condition of anonymity to protect her family’s privacy because she has not been publicly linked to the incident with Louis C.K., also has disturbing memories about an incident with the comedian. In the late ’90s, she was working in production at “The Chris Rock Show” when Louis C.K., a writer and producer there, repeatedly asked her to watch him masturbate, she said. She was in her early 20s and went along with his request, but later questioned his behavior.

“It was something that I knew was wrong,” said the woman, who described sitting in Louis C.K.’s office while he masturbated in his desk chair during a workday, other colleagues just outside the door. “I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she continued. “He abused his power.” A co-worker at “The Chris Rock Show,” who also wished to remain anonymous, confirmed that the woman told him about the experience soon after it happened.

NYT:

Ms. Schachner, a writer, illustrator and performer, admired Louis C.K.’s work. They had met in the comedy scene; Ms. Schachner’s former boyfriend was a comedy writer who had worked with Louis C.K. In 2003, when she called Louis C.K. with an invitation to her show, he said he was at work in an office as a writer on the series “Cedric the Entertainer Presents,” she recalled. Their conversation quickly moved from the personal — Louis C.K. had seen photos of her on her boyfriend’s desk, he said, and told her he thought she was cute — to “unprofessional and inappropriate,” Ms. Schachner said.

She said she heard the blinds coming down. Then he slowly started telling her his sexual fantasies, breathing heavily and talking softly. She realized he was masturbating, and was dumbfounded. The call went on for several minutes, even though, Ms. Schachner said, “I definitely wasn’t encouraging it.” But she didn’t know how to end it, either. “You want to believe it’s not happening,” she said. A friend, Stuart Harris, confirmed that Ms. Schachner had described the call to him in 2003.

For years afterward, Ms. Schachner said, she felt angry and betrayed by an artist she looked up to. And she wondered what she could have done differently. “I felt very ashamed,” she said.

[quote]Yet in an interview with The Times in September at the Toronto film festival, where “I Love You, Daddy,” was shown, Louis C.K. dismissed stories of his alleged sexual misconduct as “rumors,” and said the notion that the masturbation scenes referred to them never occurred to him. “It’s funny, I didn’t think of that, ” he said.

I'm running out of forks!

NYT:

During Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov’s surreal visit to Louis C.K.’s Aspen hotel room, they said they were holding onto each other, screaming and laughing in shock, as Louis C.K. masturbated in a chair. “We were paralyzed,” Ms. Goodman said. After he ejaculated on his stomach, they said, they fled. He called after them: “He was like, ‘Which one is Dana and which one is Julia?’” Ms. Goodman recalled. Afterward, they ran into Charna Halpern, the owner of influential improv theaters in Los Angeles and Chicago, where Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov performed, and relayed what had happened. “I didn’t know what to do, I didn’t know what to tell them to do,” said Ms. Halpern. Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov decided against going to the police, unsure whether what happened was criminal, but felt they had to respond in some way “because something crazy happened to us,” Ms. Goodman said.

Hoping that outrage would build against Louis C.K., and also to shame him, they began telling others about the incident the next day. But many people seemed to recoil, they said. “Guys were backing away from us,” Ms. Wolov said. Barely 24 hours after they left Louis C.K.’s hotel, “we could already feel the backlash.”

Soon after, they said they understood from their managers that Mr. Becky, Louis C.K’s manager, wanted them to stop telling people about their encounter with Louis C.K. Lee Kernis, one of the women’s managers at the time, confirmed on Thursday that he had a conversation in which he told Mr. Becky that Louis C.K.’s behavior toward the women had been offensive. Mr. Kernis also said that Mr. Becky was upset that the women were talking openly about the incident.

Mr. Becky denied making any threats toward the women. “I don’t recall the exact specifics of the conversation, but know I never threatened anyone,” he wrote by email on Thursday. Ms. Halpern and Robert Schroeder — Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov’s agent at the time — said that the pair told them that they felt they had been warned to stop talking.

Mr. Becky arguably wields even more power in comedy than Louis C.K. He represents Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, Amy Poehler and other top performers, and his company, 3 Arts, puts together programming deals for nearly every platform.

So if he wasn't a rich famous comedian he would be just be an ordinary perv on the subway.

I love he called that one girl to apologize for shoving her in the bathroom when he didn't even do that to her, can't keep track of all the crazy shit he did to each woman.

No surprise. Everyone knew he liked masturbating in front of female comics. We should be going after the people that still worked with him.

NYT:

Jokes about masturbation have been a regular part of Louis C.K.’s stage shows. In one bit, he complains about not being able to find a private place in his house to do it. “I’m on the streets now,” he says, “I’ve got nowhere to go.” In another bit he laments being a prisoner of his perversions. “Just the constant perverted sexual thoughts,” he says, then mimes masturbating. “It makes me into a moron.”

I don't know much of anything about this guy yet I know that there have been rumors of his sexual misconduct for a long time...so that makes me inclined to believe it.

NYT:

Tig Notaro, the comedian whose Amazon series, “One Mississippi,” lists Louis C.K. as an executive producer, is one of the few in the fiercely insular comedy world to speak out against him. Her career received a huge boost when he released her 2012 comedy album, about her cancer diagnosis. But their relationship has crumbled and she now feels “trapped” by her association with him, she wrote in an email.

Her fear is that “he released my album to cover his tracks,” she said. “He knew it was going to make him look like a good guy, supporting a woman.” Ms. Notaro said she learned of his reputation after they sold the series to Amazon, and a recent story line is a fictional treatment of the alleged masturbation episodes.

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real,” she said by email, “but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” like Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov, who confided in her, she said.

[quote]Louis to announce he's entering rehab in 3...2...1...

There are almost enough of them in rehab for a human centipede....

Finally, a story where the DL will get on Igtay Otaronay's side!

Who knew.......

NYT:

In his forthcoming film, about a television writer whose teenage daughter is wooed by a Woody Allen type, one character aggressively mimics masturbating in front of others. The content has raised eyebrows. Given the rumors surrounding Louis C.K., the movie “plays like an ambiguous moral inventory of and excuse for everything that allows sexual predators to thrive: open secrets, toxic masculinity, and powerful people getting the benefit of the doubt,” Joe Berkowitz wrote in Fast Company.

Yet in an interview with The Times in September at the Toronto film festival, where “I Love You, Daddy,” was shown, Louis C.K. dismissed stories of his alleged sexual misconduct as “rumors,” and said the notion that the masturbation scenes referred to them never occurred to him. “It’s funny, I didn’t think of that, ” he said.

The article leaves out the most important detail....just how big of a boy is he?

I'm not defending him at all, but artists in general and comedians in particular are fucked up individuals. If we purged all the creeps and weirdos from comedy, they'd all be gone except Dane Cook and he's not funny.

NYT:

In private, though, he appears to have acknowledged his behavior.

In 2009, six years after their phone call, Ms. Schachner received a Facebook message from Louis C.K., apologizing. “Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he wrote in the message, which was reviewed by The Times. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.” He added that he had seen some of Ms. Schachner’s comedy and thought she was funny. “I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did,” he wrote.

Ms. Schachner accepted his apology and told him she forgave him. But the original interaction left her deeply dispirited, she said, and discouraged her from pursuing comedy.

[quote]The article leaves out the most important detail....just how big of a boy is he?

Maybe that's why Jessica Lange was singing his praises....

DL FAVE TIG NOTARO!!!!

Disgusting.

NYT:

In 2015, a few months before the now-defunct website Defamer circulated rumors of Louis C.K.’s alleged sexual misconduct, Ms. Corry also received an email from Louis C.K., which was obtained by The Times, saying he owed her a “very very very late apology.” When he phoned her, he said was sorry for shoving her in a bathroom. Ms. Corry replied that he had never done that, but had instead asked to masturbate in front of her. Responding in a shaky voice, he acknowledged it and said, “I used to misread people back then,” she recalled.

The call confounded her, Ms. Corry said: not only had he misremembered the incident, which made her think there were other moments of misconduct, he also implied she had done something to invite his behavior. “It is unfair he’s put me or anyone else in this position,” Ms. Corry said.

Ms. Goodman and Ms. Wolov said that with other allegations swirling around the entertainment world, they could no longer stay silent. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak,” Ms. Wolov said.

Ms. Notaro said she was standing in support of those with the courage “to speak up against such a powerful figure,” she said, “as well as the multitude of women still out there, not quite ready to share their nightmares.”

END

I skimmed but did all of these things happen in a brief span of time? Again, not letting him off the hook, but maybe he was having an episode?

The stories the article occur from the late 1990’s through at least 2005. So no, he wasn’t going through a “thing”.

Does treatment work for someone like him?

So what is it with fat fucks wanting women to watch them jack off?

We've know this forever in DL and it's the broad City comics he did it to

His shows were always on my to watch list. Glad I never got around to them. The news about Spacey is hard enough to take.

Just read the article. Yeah, he's done.

OK, we were wrong here on DL. We thought it was the Broad City women but it wasn't.

[quote]We've know this forever in DL and it's the broad City comics he did it to

He very well may have, but they are not the duo in the story. Neither is it Garfunkel & Oats, but I’m sure more women will come forward now.

Women in comedy have to both compete with and protect one another because it’s such a bro culture. There’s probably going to be anger towards the more powerful women who knew but kept quiet.

Kirkman speaking about Louis CK a couple years ago

[quote]And then I had another guy who is a very famous comic. He is probably at Cosby-level at this point. He is lauded as a genius. He is basically a French filmmaker at this point. You know, new material every year. He’s a known perv. And there’s a lockdown on talking about him. His guy friends are standing by him, and you cannot say a bad thing about him. And I’ve been told by people “Well then say it then. Say it if it’s true.” If I say it, my career is over. My manager and my agent have told me that. They didn’t threaten it. They just said to me “You know what Jen, it’s not worth it because you’ll be torn apart. Look at the Cosby women.” And this guy didn’t rape me, but he made a certain difficult decision to go on tour with him really hard. Because I knew if I did, I’d be getting more of the same weird treatment I’d been getting from him. And it was really f*cked up, and this person was married. So it was not good, and so I hold a lot of resentment.

His manager threatened the duo when they told the story to others. He doesn't look creepy at all.

Roseanne Barr said this a few months back too.

[quote]Mr. Becky arguably wields even more power in comedy than Louis C.K. He represents Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, Amy Poehler and other top performers, and his company, 3 Arts, puts together programming deals for nearly every platform.

Oof, Poehler et al. are going to be dragged into this as well, for sure.

OP! You missed an opportunity.

Louis CK's collapse is CUMMING

Sums it up

Have any potted plants come forward?

Poehler and Fey sold their souls to hang with the good ole boys long ago

I guess we know who came up with the Masturbating Bear.

No different from this character.

Well, at least he was a gentleman, and asked them if it was okay before he whipped out his dick and masturbated.

Agree w/ R89. It's so weird to see women rally behind those two as if they give a fuck about anyone but themselves.

It's always the smug ones

Wait, so we're blaming Tina and Amy?

Gross fans defending him in the comments section of the NYT article. It's precisely this attitude of "oh, it's not really that bad" that made this shit possible in the first place.

What a coincidence that none of these film geniuses ever made a movie where the pervy old protagonist is portrayed as a creep and gets his well deserved comeuppance for molesting young girls.

Come to think of it, if one of them did, it would be the most original idea Hollywood has had in about 100 years.

[quote]Wait, so we're blaming Tina and Amy?

Certain people will always make a story about blaming the women. The same people who took more delight in attacking Streep than cared about what Weinstein himself was doing.

[quote] It's precisely this attitude of "oh, it's not really that bad" that made this shit possible in the first place.

Don't get me wrong, Louis CK is a creep who deserves his imminent fall from grace, but at least he only touched himself didn't physically try to force himself on people.

Given the Weinstein, Spacey, Ratner, Seagal and Westwick allegations I will give him that one small point.

Or maybe 'the womens' self-serving hypocrisy is worth a mention.

BIll MAHer tried to make the Weinstein, et al scandals about the wives. HE was saying that the men do this because they have shitty sex lives after they get married. Joy Behar looked confused at first and then disagreed.

And I'm no longer correcting my random capital letters because it's because DL is killing my keyboard

I going to wait a bit on that, R100. At least a month. Louis also seems to have a fascination with daddies/daughters so I hope nothing else is out there.

The big takeaway here is that r67 doesn't think Dane Cook is a creep or weirdo.

WW for R55.

Despite all the praise he got I was never able to get into his work, and I love a good stand up.

r99 where are you? r102 statement about Bill Maher is all about blaming women.

Oh, please. Maher should be coming up, too.

r107 I hope so. And let’s not forget Fred Armisen

We had people here insisting that Doug Stanhope's claim that the hotel masturbation incident was about him, not LCK, was 100% true. It was even worse on Reddit. People did not want to believe anything bad about CK. They're probably still in denial. "Noooo it's Doug Stanhope, nobody cares if HE'S a serial sexual assaulter!"

Why would Wiener send Dick pictures to women? Gay men might love Dick pictures, women are not impressed. Dicks are damn ugly. The point is, Louie! No woman wants to see you jerk off! Fact is, no one wants to see you jerk off! How sick are men like this? How extremely deluded are they that they believe that, would please anyone...probably not even a lover.

I wonder what Sarah Silverman’s response is going to be. They’ve been friends for decades and she even fucked him, years ago.

Comics are the worst. Most of them should probably be required to register as sex offenders to warn the public.

Sarah Silverman loves jerky frat boys. Didn't she date Jimmy Kimmel during his creepy "Man Show" years?

Bill Maher is a Woody Allen defender. He's one of those Jews who insist Dylan Farrow had every reason to lie.

Woody Allen also has outspoken pedophilia apologist Richard Dawkins on his show.

Maher the Woody apologist and Dawkins the pedo apologist are both part of Sam Harris' (another frequent Maher guest) "The Reason Project". Other members of The Reason Project include Lawrence Krauss, Jeffrey Epstein's close friend.

If Maher isn't a pedo, he certainly isn't very opposed to it either.

Honestly you have to be weird and fucked up to be a good comic r112. That humor has to come from somewhere.

You just hope they can still control themselves somewhat.

Skip to 3:15 to watch Bill Maher freak out in defense of Woody Allen, aka Mia Farrow's son-in-law

I needed to find someone who wasn't funny, R104, and he was the first person I thought of.

Woody Allen - standup - '65

I'm curious if Aziz Ansari would defend him. In season 1 of Aziz's show Master of None there was episode where Aziz's character and the other guys find out about how the female characters had been followed or harassed by creepy men over the years.

[quote]Sarah Silverman loves jerky frat boys. Didn't she date Jimmy Kimmel during his creepy "Man Show" years?

Yes, she was with him. I also recall some controversy where she made rape jokes during a standup set.

[quote]And let’s not forget Fred Armisen

Oh please, for what? Apparently he's a shitty boyfriend. Is that going to be another thing that your career is ruined for?

Sexual assault, of course. Indecent exposure? Yeah. Quid pro quo? That too. Being a douchebag? Really?

He's being targeted because he's Mexican!

The fallout of this going to be great. Especially with Broad City. That show is so self righteous and shrill about “rape culture” and having to bleep Trump’s name to avoid triggering snowflakes. What will be their response to producer Dave Becky silencing victims of Louis CK?

Lemme guess: “We have no idea.”

[quote]“I Love You, Daddy:"

I thought it was going to be about Mackenzie Phillips.

Seinfeld is a good friend of CK, and let's not forget when a 39 year old Seinfeld was romancing 17 year old Shoshanna Lonstein.

R101, your lunch is ready

R123 Why Broad City? There's no mention of this brilliant show or its two stars in the NYT article.

"Triggering snowflakes" reveals you as a deplorable. Have fun talking to yourself, turd.

R123 The Broad City girls and writers will pretend that they never heard the rumors. Abbi Jacobson and Illana Glazer's careers will hit slump after the show ends anyway. There is only so much Abbi Jacobson can do with her big dick face.

I don't get it either r127. Louis CK is not connected to "Broad City", he is not a producer of the show or anything.

R127, Dave Becky is the producer of Broad City. Hope you feel good watching the show now.

R129, did you read the article? There’s a whole section about producer Dave Becky trying to silence the claims of women who were victimized by CK.

[quote]Courteney Cox and David Arquette each confirm, on the record, that Louis CK asked an actress working with him on a 2005 pilot if he could masturbate in front of her.

Is it something that these guys mother's did to them, or didn't do to them, that makes them this way? Harvey Weinstein wanted girls to watch him shower, Louis CK wanted girls to watch him J/O.

[quote]Dave Becky is the producer of Broad City.

More accurately he is one of 6 executive producers.

Hi HKN @ r123!

Let me try that again, lol

Hi, HKN @r126!

r125 and Seinfeld, like his dear friend C.K., is also a huge fan of Bill Cosby.

R123 sure has a boner for seeing these "shrill" women with a tenuous at best connection with CK get theirs, because of their uppity bullshit about "rape culture" he despises.

Man your reply says so much about you.

The article at r138 is about why these men force others to watch them masterbate.

Here's a working link, R138.

Patton Oswalt: There Could Be "Hundreds" Of Cosby Rape Victims

Cos apparently grew a little tumor on his face for every woman he date-raped.

I heart R143

For those who asked: how big? Not very.

R139, no, it’s not about women. You made it about gender. It’s about fucking hypocrites. It’s about people acting like activist for issues they say they care about, yet turning a blind eye to it if people who perpetuate and protect the institutions that allow it to happen give them a job on TV and an opportunity to feed their own narcissism.

[quote]Poehler and Fey sold their souls to hang with the good ole boys long ago

There have been some rumors and scandals about the improv theatres that Poehler and Fey are connected to and they usually stay quiet. Poehler and Fey did a lot of improv work at iO Chicago in the 90s and they consider the founder Charna Halpern to a be a good friend as Halpern helped their careers. There was some scandal a couple of years ago where Halpern was accused of covering up sexual harassment and domestic violence at iO. It was revealed that the woman who accused Halpern was never at iO. But, others still claim that Halpern covered up other incidents. Poehler is one of the founders of UCB and there have been stories of sexual harassment, rape, and racism at the theatres in NYC and LA. I doubt Fey or Poehler would ever give a fuck about some poor woman being abused at iO or UCB. They have their fame and money and that's all that matters to them.

It's rediculous to drag everyone who shares a manager with him.

This is such sad, depressing news. Louis' show on FX is downright brilliant and if he's taken out of the game it will be a great loss to the comedy community.

What he's being accused of isn't even that bad. So much drama over nothing. No one was groped or touched. Really need to move past this.

This loss is even harder to take then Spacey.

Why doesn't anyone hot ever ask me to watch them masturbate?

r147 did you read the NYT article? Charna Halpern is mentioned as someone the two comedian victims confided in after Louie masturbated in front them. In the article, Halperin comes across as sympathetic but kind of detached. It’s all more Interesting, after reading your post.

Wait. We're lambasting Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris? Two brilliant minds...in the wake of Louis begin a pervert? What am I missing?

R149, is it really necessary to go into detail about why it's wrong to masturbate in front of random people or your professional associates?

It's grotesque and horrible. It's not 100% as bad as direct sexual assault, but it very nearly is.

How would you feel if a middle aged woman at your company came into your office and sat down and took off her skirt and panties and starting rubbing her pussy in direct view of you? My suspicion is you'd be horrified, and rightly so.

I bet Lorne Michaels and SNL keeps quiet on this. The last time CK hosted you could tell that he enjoyed that sketch where his character was perving on teenage girls.

Laura Silverman (Sarah’s sister) is going nuclear on Twitter right now. In a series of tweets she says that he jerked off in front of her twenty times, after they had broken up from dating and when they were on tour. She said she completely believes the victims.

So Sarah knew, and there’s no doubt Pam Adlon knew.

r155 Laura Silverman dated him? Was this before or after her sister fucked him?

r152

Richard Dawkins Defends 'Mild' Pedophilia, Again and Again Richard Dawkins defended "mild pedophilia" in an interview this weekend. It's not the first time.

Referring to his early days at a boarding school in Salisbury, he recalled how one of the (unnamed) masters “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts.”

He said other children in his school peer group had been molested by the same teacher but concluded: “I don’t think he did any of us lasting harm.”

“I am very conscious that you can’t condemn people of an earlier era by the standards of ours. Just as we don’t look back at the 18th and 19th centuries and condemn people for racism in the same way as we would condemn a modern person for racism, I look back a few decades to my childhood and see things like caning, like mild pedophilia, and can’t find it in me to condemn it by the same standards as I or anyone would today,” he said.

He said the most notorious cases of pedophilia involve rape and even murder and should not be bracketed with what he called “just mild touching up.”

His reasons for defending the behavior seem to focus on three points. First, that "hysteria" over a fear of pedophilia is overblown by society; second, that instilling a child with fundamentalist religious beliefs is actually a worse way to abuse a child; and third, that he personally overcame childhood sexual abuse, meaning it must not be that big of a deal for anyone else who was subjected to similar behavior.

Sam Harris' other good buddy:

Lawrence Krauss creepily defends pedophile Jeffrey Epstein

Do these guys think jerking off in front of women is going to make the women want to have sex with them? Or are they getting their jollies knowing that the women would never want to have sex with them and are going to be completely grossed out? Is that the part they like?

If you’re a man and want women to think you’re sexy, come over, cook dinner, wash the dishes and take out the trash. That makes you seem normal and not like the Hillside Strangler.

Women think guys continually waving their dicks around in front of random women that have never shown any sign of wanting to have sex with them are psychos, and maybe rapists too. But maybe that’s what gets these guys off. “If I jerk off in front of her, she will think, ‘is he going to rape and kill me and throw my body in a dumpster? I don’t know!’ That’s hot!”

Some little boys were evidently too spoiled, and as adult men, they think they are entitled to endless attention by all women.

R157 Never listen to public school boys (Americans - read that as private school) on anything to do with sex. They're all fucked up.

Fuck me daddy!

R159, see the article at R141.

The average 80 y o DL cunt would die if some young hot thing rubbed one out in front of them.

when do we start hearing about all the ryan murphy assaults?

Eww! disgusting. I liked like him as stand-up comedian.

women hate seeing men masturbating..so why do men do it in front of them? So weird!

Daddy where are ur hidden cam videos

On Howard Stern he said he let a dog lick his dick/balls. Will the dog come forward?

As everyone has said, I'm not surprised. I did like his FX show.

It's a New York thing.

Will Louis CK be attending the same rehab as Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey?

Here's his horrendous "faggot" routine. God, he's a disgusting creature.

It’s actually amazing how these predators can actually get the most predatory movie plots made & finesse them in a way so that the masses don’t object.

Look at how many major (and minor) movies have been made where young girls want to screw old men.

Growing up I NEVER heard of or knew a single teenage girl who wanted to actually f*ck a grown man.

But the MALE writers, producers, directors, studio heads, actors who rule film, have decided its EVERY little girls dream to ride an old geezer. Because that’s what they WANT to believe when they are raping girls irl.

Polanski bragged about liking to screw neglected teens in his autobiography. He said that young girls actually have the power over & manipulate old men like him.

He’s also declared he’s not a bad guy because “Everyone wants to f*ck young girls!”.

And that he decided to photograph underage girls (nude) to “show girls as they really were these days — sexy, pert, and thoroughly human.”

Another Hollywood Jew taking out his fucked up issues on women he sees as subordinate.

JEWISH MEN, GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER.

Louis C.K. and Anthony Weiner's close friend and old roommate

Jon Stewart made this student out to be a fool when he asked Stewart about Louis CK's predatory ways last year, but it looks like the student had the last laugh.

Weinstein, Spacey, Louis, and several other sexual harrassers in Hollywood all have something in common.. they're butt ugly. I wouldn't be surprised if they all suffer from low self-esteem, and in turn use the power they've acquired to force others into a sexual situation that they would never find themselves in in the first place.

Daily Disgrace! Jon Stewart Secretly Helping Pervy Pal, Anthony Weiner

Publicly, ‘Even he knows he can’t afford to be associated with him.’

Ex-Daily Show host Jon Stewart could become the butt of some pretty nasty jokes if he isn’t careful about how he handles his relationship with disgraced politician, Anthony Weiner.

RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned that the 54-year-old comedian is still supporting and giving advice to the disgraced pervert estranged husband of Clinton advisor Huma Abedin.

I'm not reading 174 replies, but I remember seeing him on something, maybe SNL, and he said something that seemed so incredibly homophobic to me, that I immediately stopped liking and watching him.

He did show his tinymeat on one of his shows. I give him credit for that. Penises should be out more. But other than that, he's a nasty piece of work.

“Jon’s very gently denounced Anthony’s behavior publicly, but behind closed doors he’s giving his old 1980s roommate all the advice he can to get through this,” said an insider of the two men, who were housemates in Dewey Beach, Delaware, for the summer of 1987.

“Jon has pledged to support Anthony when he’s ready to make some public statements but right now the plan is for him to stay far out of sight during Jon’s book tour,” said the source.

“Jon still really cares about the guy and was one of the people who insisted he get professional help — but even he knows he can’t afford to be associated with him.”

R172, in my group at school I was the only girl who liked old guys, which at the time everyone regarded as an amusing eccentricity. I still like older men but it’s becoming increasingly untenable as I age...

Variety:

Louis C.K.’s Stand Up Specials, ‘Lucky Louie’ to Be Removed From HBO On Demand Services

Louis C.K.’s past HBO projects are being removed from the premium cabler’s on demand services. In addition, C.K. will no longer be participating in the network’s “Night of Too Many Stars” charity special.

Ha ha!

This is an atomic bomb in the comedy world. He’s a huge sacred cow. There is no one bigger in comedy right now. The retribution will be swift and severe.

In reading this, I was happy to see that Courteney Cox, an actress I’ve long like and admired, actually did something about this when she heard about his behavior over ten years ago when it occurred on a show she was producing, instead of coming out of the woodwork now and saying she knew about it but the institution prevented her from taking action like so many other famous names have done recently.

He's like an anal wart on the festering hole of New York rapery! I hope kills himself. SINGER WE ARE COMING FOR YOU

Singer is holding on by his fingernails. Where’s the Times article on him? The drumbeat is so loud for him.

Correct, r184. Unlike the (((producers))) of The Cosby Show who buried all the complaints because Cosby was so important for America.

I’m hoping that because it hasn’t appeared yet R186, they’re preparing something big and legally sound.

How do we feel about all content (or some content) being scrubbed from streaming services? I mean, I still really enjoy the Cosby Show despite Cosbys' transgressions. I can appreciate a great show and still recognize that some major person involved with the show is a creep. Do you think the shows of these guys should all be eliminated from viewing on TV (streaming or reruns on regular cable), leaving us to watch on youtube or DVDs? I'm talking about shows that have already been made, not stuff in the works.

Singer is coming...have some patience. It takes time to write articles and find victims who will go on record

r189 Thanks for Jewsplaining. Cosby was just a creep, like any other creep. And if we don't watch Hollywood shows, we won't know what to do with our goyishe kops

Scrubbing Louis is too far at this point. There's no allegations of rape unlike Cosby and HW

HBO's removal of his shows and standup specials is just HBO virtue signaling to distract from the fact they did business with him despite knowing of his behavior towards female comics.

He's another one for whom it's very believable that he did it.

I've seen some amateur porn clips where the guy starts fondling himself before things get intimate, almost absentmindedly. It's like he thinks, "If she backs out of the deal- at least I'll get something out of this".

r193 at the very least they are no longer profiting from their heinous enabling of this particular sex predator.

"Virtue signalling" makes an appearance and it only took 200 replies. Everybody, take a drink!

R186 Singer has a lot of powerful protectors surrounding him. If he falls, the sludge that will ooze forth will make the Hollywood revelations thus far look minor.

Singer is no more powerful than Louis. His end is coming.

FX released a statement saying they were very disturbed by the Times’ allegations and they are examining options. Guaranteed they will cut ties by tomorrow and remove all his material. HBO has already done it.

Deadline:

FX “Troubled” By Louis C.K. Sexual Misconduct Allegations, Will Review Them

FX Networks, which has been Louis C.K.’s home for the past eight eight years, just issued a statement in response to the New York Times article that revealed multiple allegations of sexual misconduct against the standup comedian and TV series creator-director.

“We are obviously very troubled by the allegations about Louis C.K. published in The New York Times today. The network has received no allegations of misconduct by Louis C.K. related to any of our 5 shows produced together over the past 8 years,” the company said. “FX Networks and FXP take all necessary actions to protect our employees and thoroughly investigate any allegations of misconduct within our workplace. That said, the matter is currently under review.”

I hear that for now, there are no plans for any of C.K.’s current series to be taken off the air/digital platforms or stop production, with business continuing as usual while FX is investigating.

Louis C.K. has emerged as the most prolific producer at FX Prods. where his company Pig Newton has been under an overall deal since 2013. While his own series, the Peabody Award-winning Louie, has been on a self-imposed hiatus, C.K. via Pig Newton is executive producing four other series, most of which he also co-created.

r172 thank you for posting that.

Singer will be a tough nut to crack because if he goes down, much bigger names in Hollywood like Spielberg will fall. Singer is being protected by them.

Someone posted something from Popbitch about Singer in another thread, saying that work on his Freddie Mercury film was behind schedule because Singer kept having breakdowns on set and was having unplanned absences which caused production to be shut down. So he's feeling the strain, which makes me wonder if he's losing his protection. That combined with people like Jessica Chastain speaking out about him, and the series of news article detailing past allegations makes me think someone is preparing something about him

He's really not that funny. Deeply overrated. So I'm glad.

Never got his humour either; too laboured.

I'd be surprised if Singer is losing his protection. The problem is that it may have its limits.

The group of people backing him did a very impressive job getting Yahoo and a few other sites to remove the "Justin" story. The number of tweets about Singer dropped to a very low level.

Then Jessica Chastain spoke out against him on a Friday. It didn't get that much coverage initially. Then the following Tuesday it was like the media decided to cover what she said and all of a sudden a bunch of sites like People magazine were covering her. At the same time, the story about the USC students petition to remove Singer's name built up steam.

Singer is probably seeing that even though one leak is plugged other ones will just spring up out of nowhere.

I'm glad John Hillerman didn't live to see this.

Thank you to the beautiful people who ace cuing the YouTube video links.

Everyone should watch R175's link to see Jon Stewart squirming.

Go to 1:14:00-ish in the Jon Stewart clip at r175

Notice how Rahm and Ari Emanuel's buddy David Axelrod immediately ended the Q+A session after Jon Stewart was asked about Louis C.K. in the video at r175

Judd Apatow weighs in.

[quote]This to me was one of the saddest parts of the Louis CK story in the @nytimes. When you disrespect and sexually harass young, vulnerable people you become a dream killer.

R180 there’s a diff between THINKING you like someone aka having a crush & actually wanting & pursuing sexual contact. A crush happens to boys & girls.‪ But to get up close and real? That’s when boys and girls are second thinking it.

But these crushes sure a hell aren’t on Polanski type losers. Come on! The guy’s a femme 4 ft freak show. NOBODY wants that without the status & $.

Singer should be cast off just 4 looking like a serial killer.

Jon "I never heard of this" Stewart is carefully crafting his response.

I hate that Pamela Adlon probably knew about this.

I'm convinced Jon Stewart has big political ambitions.

Here he is rocking the EveryGoy look, trying to impress Joe Six-pack in the swing states.

Is there a psychiatric name for these perverts who need to be constantly exposing their tinymeat?

Exhibitionist

Jon Leibowitz's brother ran the NY Stock Exchange.

Illuminati probably already approached Jon about running for office, after being such a good court jester for the ruling class for so many years.

I hate Jon Stewart

Me too r222. He used to always have Bill Kristol and Judith Miller on to sell Goymerica on going to war for Israel in Iraq.

And remember when he took a hiatus from the show, because he wanted to make an anti-Iran propaganda movie so bad?

And remember when Jon Stewart used to mock the Hispanic CNN anchor Rick Sanchez? Then Sanchez pointed out the obvious, that Jon Stewart's tribe has lots of power, and isn't some persecuted minority in the US.

Jon Stewart got him fired for pointing out the obvious. As "brave" as Jon Stewart was, he never pointed out the obvious that the media establishment is dominated by the Jewish tribe. Rick Sanchez said it, and Stewart got him fired.

Here's Jon Stewart mocking and humiliating Vanilla Ice with two other Chosenites.

Jon Stewart is far too short for anyone to take him seriously.

I too hate this news about Louis C.K.. I liked his stand-up, but I can't support him anymore.

Please stop. There's plenty to dislike about Stewart without going full anti-Semite.

Jon Stewart on the Goyim:

I feel bad for women. The religious assholes are pedos and pedo apologists and the secular atheists are pedos and pedo apologists.

He is totally overrated.

I remember when everyone was losing their shit over the “fat girl” scene from his show.

I watched it and it was garbage. Trite, hackneyed, misogynist, slow and poorly acted.

God, OP’s pic does illustrate his infatuation with Allen

Skip to 8:10 in the video at r231 Louis talks about how people who watch TV are probably sitting at home masterbating to his show

I've heard he's a misogynist for years so this comes as no shock.

I just can't get over the title of his film. It's just an icky, creepy title. And why would a father of teen daughters write a movie about a young girl hooking up with a man 50 years older than her? That's not right. It's been my experience that fathers of girls generally come down hardest on creepy old men.

I suspect his daughters already have experiences with a creepy old man.

It would be great if someone comes forward to accuse Jon Stewart. It would be well deserved.

Jon Stewart? Why? Just because he is friends with Weinstein?

Now the cast of his movie are acting shocked about the allegations....they now claim they had no idea

2015: Michael Che Sparks Rumor That Jon Stewart Was Fired From The Daily Show

“My craziest Daily Show moment had to be when I was asked to host an episode because Jon was in a Contract dispute with Comedy Central. It was an absolute dream come true. A month later, Jon and I are at some party in the Fiji Islands for some water company, and Jon says to me with almost tears in his eyes “I’m fired!, those motherf*ckers! F*ck me! F*ck me right in the heart!” That’s when I knew he was leaving the show. I told him I’ll alway be there for him, no matter what. A week later I left for SNL. My episode never re-aired because of an ill-timed tribute to Dr. Cosby. But I’ll never forget it. Thanks Lorne.” To down play the rumor talks, Michael followed up with another post today and gave a more serious farewell. He also went on to say that the above story wasn’t true. Just jokes?

“Before this even almost becomes a thing, I have to say this was all made up. Jon is great. and its good to see him leave on a high, and not cause he OD’d or drugged girls or said the nword a lot on tape. this is a rare happy ending.”

Jon Stewart is set to have his final episode of The Daily Show tonight on Comedy Central.

They need to reshoot "Louie" with a different actor. Maybe Chris Rock.

Parks and Recreation creator Mike Schur apologizes for giving work to Louis CK even though he was aware of his behavior

At least he's owning up to it, r242. A lot of people hear things, but without knowing for sure, tend to give others the benefit of the doubt. Kudos to this guy for apologizing.

Oh yeah, kudos to the sex predator who couldn't get away with it any longer.

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Isn’t Parks and Recreation the show Harris Wittels was a producernor writer on when he emailed a female writer, she deserves to die and all the parks writers will gladly fuck the shit out of her dirty lifeless body? When the head people in charge at Parks found out they did nothing, it was only until NBC execs stepped in that Harris got fired.

I’m mostly going off memory, is that how it went down?

These stories tell me that women are far too nice. We're starting to look into adoption and would prefer a girl but how do you raise her with enough self esteem and assertiveness that she'll tell a creep beating off in front of her where to go and leave. I can't even imagine how awkward and humiliating it must have been for those two women to sit there and watch him finish. My blood boils just thinking about how powerless they felt in that situation. And that underlying idea all the women had, that "we didn't want to make HIM uncomfortable".

Wittels was born in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, the son of Dr. Ellison Wittels and Maureen (née Davidson) Wittels, and raised in Houston, Texas in the Jewish faith.[2] He celebrated his bar mitzvah at Temple Emanu-El, across the street from Rice University

r242 Isn’t Parks and Recreation the show Harris Wittels was a producer and writer on, when he emailed a female reporter, “that she deserves to die and all the parks writers will gladly fuck the shit out of her dirty lifeless body” becuase she wrote a critical article about him.

When the head people in charge at Parks found out they did nothing, it was only until NBC execs stepped in that Harris got fired.

I’m mostly going off memory, is that how it went down?

Yep her son Abel is Louis CK's kid. Another open secret in Hollywood.

Wow. R250 First I heard of it. Did her husband know this, is that what ended the marriage?

Wasn't the rumor her husband cheated with Christina Applegate?

R247, putting aside the “this could end my career” issues, the problem is that when a guy is doing something that crazy and there’s nobody around to help, the woman has to guess whether it’s physically safe to upset him. Men aren’t just taller and heavier. They also have a lot more upper body strength, even if they’re on the smaller side themselves.

There are straight men who will flip out when they’re turned down in a bar, so who knows what the masturbating man who’s blocking the path to the door is going to do. If you have a daughter, early and really thorough martial arts lessons might be the way to go.

Poehler's ex, Will Arnett and his big ass head can get it.

This is making me remember Letterman's problems with the intern. He survived that one, but now I'm wondering if maybe there aren't more skeletons hiding in his closet?

Whittels was a creep and his deification since his death is baffling to me.

We were discussing this in work today and a coworker who's a middle aged frat boy and all around douche heard the title of his movie and said "He must have thought he was untouchable to call it that. What a sick fuck" I asked him if the story hadn't broke and the movie was released as normal what would he have thought of the title. He said "that he probably had the literotica incest section open in another tab when he was writing it. No one can walk into a theatre and ask for 2 tickets to I Love You Daddy without thinking this isn't right"

I thought it interesting that this guy who loves CK and Bill Burr thought the movie was a step too far and that the movie has left him with no doubts that he's guilty as sin.

I've heard Richard Jeni's girlfriend Amy Miller, a news reporter, has some stories about CK from the time he and Jeni worked together on Chris Rock's show.

All this sordid underbelly of the Hollywood and the entertainment industry in general (and even beyond) is fascinating. A lot more people are aware of how widespread and deed such behavior goes. But, really, what will be the end result. I'm hopeful, but skeptical.

Interesting article, r239.

Says Cloe Moretz pulled out of promoting the film two weeks ago after she heard this was coming down the pike.

What do you think CK is doing right now?

Jerking off?

Masturbating in front of some poor, unsuspecting woman.

So the youngest member of the cast was the first to cut ties with C.K.. I typically find Moretz insufferable, but she earned some points with me for what she did. Also speaks volumes how production just let her do it too. C.K. is done.

[quote]Whittels was a creep and his deification since his death is baffling to me.

Wittles was an addict and probably did drugs and other crazy shit with other comedians and he may have kept quiet about their shit. His friends may have decided not to speak ill of him after his death. I remember Parks and Rec people were all over social media crying about Wittles' death. I now wonder if Aziz Ansari has skeletons in his closet and same with Mike Schur.

It reminds me of the church scandals in scale and pervasiveness and the level of cover up. Can't say I'm shocked though. I worked in real estate and in finance in the 70s/80s before becoming blissfully self employed. Every secretary had at least one good story about a time she was propositioned/flashed/groped/harassed. One executive kept a pied de terre in the city where he conducted "interviews" for promotions. Every woman who progressed had to get there on her back for that fat fuck and it also kept the women at each other's throats rather than fighting back. The secretaries hated the women execs because they were whores and the execs were bitches to the secretaries because they knew the truth and they weren't at all ever going to help when one of the secretaries when he was groped because they didn't want it to come out that they fucked the boss.

I'm just wondering where it will end. Will there be any man left standing.

Trevor Noah took some shots at Louis C.K. after he was accused of sexual misconduct.

The Daily Show host kicked things off by addressing a weird story about how Facebook is asking its users to upload nude pictures as a security measure in order to prevent others from uploading them. He called it a “pervy move.”

“I was like, ‘This is the most pervy story of the day,’ and then Louis C.K. said, ‘Hold my penis,'” Noah quipped. “At this point, we’re going to need a new Oscars category this year: Best Actor Whose Movies We Can’t Watch Anymore.”

Just like with Weinstein, I predict Noah will be the only late night show host to speak out against Louis CK

There was a thread on here where someone was predicting that Spacey will commit suicide. But, I think CK is more likely. Spacey has much more money than CK does. CK lost a lot of money because he foolishly invested too much of it in projects. The jerking off stories have been around for years, but CK may have done worse things that could be revealed soon and possible legal troubles would to CK's financial troubles.

C.K. has two daughters, I don't think he'd off himself. He'd have to be super selfish... to do... something... like... that.

What would happen if someone of spielbergs caliber would be outed as a sexual predator?

[quote]I'm just wondering where it will end. Will there be any man left standing.

Sadly, I don't think it's going to end for awhile. The revelations about Weinstein lead to Brett Ratner and Spacey being outed as predators. The Louis CK scandal will probably lead to a ripple effect of other comedians being accused of things. I also bet one of the douches in Judd Apatow's posse has probably done some awful things to women.

This is getting too confusing...let's just list the famous men who haven't raped/assaulted/abused women on a regular basis.

1. .......

Oh well. I tried.

The premiere of Louis C.K.'s new film, #ILoveYouDaddy, was canceled tonight

Jen Kirkman exposed CK a long time ago and has been getting hate from fanboys ever since.

Kirkman retracted her story, saying it wasn't about Louis. Maybe it was but she lied anyway.

Didn't Iliza Shelsinger also out CK on some podcast?

Is Chloe sucking in her belly in this picture?

He masturbated to completion in a hotel room in front of these two women. How long did that take? Were they somehow restrained and forced to watch? Once he initially removed his penis, did they not have the ability to get up and walk out of the room? Look, he's disgusting, and I'm not blaming the victims, but I find it odd that they remained there until he was completed. Or am I understanding the scenario incorrectly?

I agree. I think one of Judd Apatow's crew will be outed...either Judd himself or Seth. Both of them have gone overboard in the last few years in trying to be male feminist. It seems like they are trying to cover up their past behavior.

Cunt bag Rosanne said he was a creep about a year ago and nothing happened, why is everyone acting outrage just NOW?

WHere did ROseanne say that. Would like to see/read it.

There's a real gender divide in how his movie is being received by critics.

2 of 8 female reviewers liked it, compared to 12 of 16 male reviewers.

Yeah Chloe is sucking it in. She's built like a NFL linebacker. She's got a very unfeminine body shape.

CK also stole Tig Notaro’s birthday clown skit and did it himself as a short for SNL.

I worked with Chloe and the divine Isabelle Ruppert recently and Chloe is indeed quite stocky and plain in person. Very nice girl and a pleasure to work with though.

Women can't catch a break with their bodies when it comes to gay men's thoughts about them -- if she eats and has some curves, she's fat. If she starves to look good on camera, she's labeled a 110 lbs. linebacker.

R282 here you go

[quote]I agree. I think one of Judd Apatow's crew will be outed...either Judd himself or Seth. Both of them have gone overboard in the last few years in trying to be male feminist. It seems like they are trying to cover up their past behavior.

James Franco is Apatow's crew and he had that scandal where he was flirting or trying to pick a 17 year old girl on instagram. But, that incident died down quickly. As for Seth Rogen, I've always found him to be a phony.

I wish Roseanne would join us here on Planet Earth more often.

There's no one jude apatow and his little friends are clean in all this, james Franco was already outed as a perv, but dl played it off as him just trying to look straight.

[quote]CK also stole Tig Notaro’s birthday clown skit and did it himself as a short for SNL.

One of the SNL writers who worked on that sketch had worked with Tig before. Some people didn't side with Tig because there have been short films and jokes that had similar premises to Tig's sketch and the SNL one. In comments section of an AV Club article, someone posted a link to a 2009 short film and tried to imply that Tig stole the idea. There was a short film in the 90s about a lonely woman who hires a clown to entertain her on her birthday. I think Tig is another asshole like CK and there been crazy stories about her. Tig used her cancer battle to make people feel sorry for her.

Speaking of SNL, are there any rumors about former or current cast members being pervs?

I Love You, Daddy is being reshot to replace Louis CK with Christopher Plummer

Thanks for the laugh just before bed, r294.

[quote]C.K. has two daughters

This is another thing that I find quite sad is that sicko like him has kids.

but I'm a black trans woman

R287 Women are much more obsessed with the fat content of other women's bodies than gay men are.

Mel Gibson just might wind up being known as the most normal, well adjusted, man in Hollywood before this is over.

Hollywood is going to be a ghost town by the time this is finished. 😱

"Some people" seem to think DL and gay men invented fat shaming. What a load of ignorant horse shit.

Fatties have always been a target of ridicule and disdain.

HBO has dropped Louis C.K., and longtime collaborator FX Networks says the sexual miscondect allegations are "under review"

Chloe Moretz is always body shamed in twitter

The last one standing might be Bill Burr. He's a misogynist because of his upbringing, but AFAIK he's never done any creepy, harassing, etc. shit. Norm MacDonald is another one. He has serious mental health issues, but I've never heard that he's a harasser.

r269 Louis CK has gone broke more than once. Marc Maron mentioned it on his podcast. He's known for it, and he even admits spending it on impulse purchases of stupid shit. He's actually quite fucked up even outside of the harassment. I remember his early routines about his ex. They were rage infused and not funny; I think she got some taken down after they split up.

Kirkman's latest response.

#OscarsAllFemale

#OscarsWhereAreAllTheMen

#OscarsNoMenAllowed

Rehab is up next, I think - with the overwork, sexual obsessiveness, and bleeding money, I'd wager cocaine is in back of so much of this. For so many.

Yeah, cocaine is probably what fuels most of the stand up comedy industry, and Hollywood in general.

Sad.

Very Sad.

I wonder if he was the inspiration for the friend of Jerry’s on Seinfeld who Took It Out in front of Elaine. CK opened for Seinfeld at one point, and he was writing for Conan at the time. If so, I guess it’s gratifying that the characters in the show find him gross and weird/pathetic.

Fuck lagging DL, I just spent half an hour laboriously typing out a post with up to ten seconds between the time I’d type a letter to it showing up onscreen and just when I was about to hit send the page reset and everything’s gone 😡 I hope Muriel fixes this shit soon (at this moment it’s working like it should which is actually more frustrating lol).

I’m gobsmacked that Poehler’s younger boy is CK’s but it’s really obvious now that it’s been pointed out. She’d better get the kid in therapy stat to head off any sexual issues at the pass.

I think CK had this coming for a long time but I also think that unlike all the other recently accused/outed predators, CK has a keen conscience and feels genuine remorse (he did try to contact multiple women to apologize). I think he could be rehabilitated and learn to contain his darker impulses through intensive therapy but I also worry about suicide. I hope Adlon and Poehler don’t abandon him because although he’s deeply flawed, I really don’t think he’s irredeemable, and some of his comedy is truly genius.

Suicide is the only P.R. campaign that can save him now.

r312 his remorse came across as manipulative in the article.

We're truly sorry you feel that way, r314. Get in the van and we'll sort it out.

The NY Times is a 1% water carrier. It's no co-incidence CK is getting thrown under the bus now. I agree that he might be saving his own ass, but I wouldn't trust anything that rag says. They are protecting higher ups, just like they protected the Met under Levine.

And no, I am not a Trump supporter.

I was at the gym tonight and on the elliptical screen was Louis CK juxtaposed with Weinstein. There was no sound without USB. Arrggh.

And dear God please put in an 'to the end of thread ' button. Scrolling through 300 responses on a cell is nuts.

r317 Click on the "Post" button and you will be sent straight to the last post.

I assume nobody has taken Singer on yet because they have to get all their ducks lined up b4 they go to war with him and his posse of pedos.

Somewhere out there, a gaggle of lawyers is working on the “Singer Situation” with MILLIONS of dollars being billed.

White culture is the least tribal culture in the world, which is why white societies are the most multi-cultural.

But there's a big difference between kindness to outsiders, and supporting the demographic destruction of white majority countries.

Nobody expects non-white countries to just surrender in the name of political correctness. Only white gentiles.

[quote] White culture is the least tribal culture in the world, which is why white societies are the most multi-cultural.

Funny, I think the fact that Whites brought on slaves from Africa and imposed themselves on non-white native groups in Australia and the Americas was the reason the West is so "multicultural".

r321's Hebrew School never taught him that the slave trade was dominated by Jews and Arabs.

r322 Yes, and the Anglos were just sleeping innocently while the Jews and the Arabs secretly inserted Black slaves in their plantations.

You're dumb as fuck, and a clear Nazi.

r323 Importation of slaves was made illegal by around 1800 in the US. Slavery itself was outlawed by England and the US shortly thereafter.

Slavery is still legal and widespread in Israel and in Arab countries.

r324

So Anglo participation doesn't count because after centuries of benefiting from slavery, they finally banned it? Damn, you're stupid.

I didn't say we were perfect, r325. It only looks that way when you compare us to every other culture on Earth.

Worth repeating, r325:

White culture is the least tribal culture in the world, which is why white societies are the most multi-cultural.

White culture is extremely tribal. Under white culture, Whites are valued more than non-Whites.

Just see how white culture reacts when a Muslim terrorist kills 8 people in a US city vs. the US army slaughtering 50 people in an airstrike against an Afghan hospital.

This is way overreacting to him imo. If he is pervy (he is), so be it. Masturbating in front of someone isn't "sexual assault" imo. It's annoying and unwelcome, but exaggerating to the equivalent of being physically assaulted is ridiculous. Is it that difficult to just say "ya, not interested" and simply walk away? These comedians seem to be using his fame as some sort of springboard. Stir up a scandal and they will get their own name out there. Jesus christ, if some random middle aged white guy starts jacking off in front of you, just simply walk away. It's not that difficult.

Tig Notaro herself did a whole skit how she creepily stalked Taylor Dane. Not to mention she faked having cancer for attention.

I've heard she done did worse than that r330

Slavery is actually everywhere now, including the U.S., in the form of trafficking.

R114, you're hallucinating.

Ironically the shelving of “I Love You Daddy” a movie mocking Woody Allen, is unintended consequence of Ronan’s crusade.

Does anyone else remember when Jon Stewart pretended not to know about Louis C.K.? It was a Q&A, maybe before a show, and someone asked him about these rumors. His response was to feign confusion and ignorance, saying something like, "I have never heard this before."

r334 the movie wasn’t mocking Allen it was tribute of sorts. Louie is an Allen fannoi.

r335 r175 posted a link to the clip you’re talking about.

[quote]It’s actually amazing how these predators can actually get the most predatory movie plots made & finesse them in a way so that the masses don’t object.

The media doesn't say anything and says it is wonderful. It is a kind of brainwashing.

People just want to see a movie or watch a TV show, but we have to get all this brainwashing that we never asked for and are repulsed by.

[quote]Will Louis CK be attending the same rehab as Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey?

Hope so, they get together for their morning circle jerks!

I heard CK has a dick the size of a thumb. If it’s true, it sounds like he’s into humiliation.

As someone who lives in an insular country that's still pretty much all white and all the same religion I kind of envy the way you guys can blame the "other" groups. Most people here have never seen a Jew or a Muslim or a black or a Latino. So when someone does something awful you have to suck it up and take responsibility as an individual and a society.

Louie Sees Karma

R341 Yeah, I'm in the same situation and always marvel at some DLers bringing out the Jewish angle. What the hell does ethnicity have to do with predatory behaviour? You just rob someone of both their agency and their responsibility by blaming their genetic makeup for their actions.

Why is anyone talking about Jewish people on a Louis C.K. thread? The dude was raised Catholic.

Louis CK has a paternal Hungarian Jewish grandparent, and paternal Mexican (!) grandparent, and is Irish on the maternal side.

So, again, what do "the Jews" have to do with Louis C.K., R345? He inherited the public masturbation gene from a Jewish grandfather? Why not blame Catholics and their guilt and shame complexes?

People will find any excuse to throw in antisemitism r344, but yeah, Louis CK is not jewish.

You have to go back to where one of his four grandparents was jewish, I guess it is the one-drop rule lol.

He’s not Jewish.

Some trolls keep bringing up the Jews in the Kevin Spacey threads, too. KS’s dad was a NAZI so if anything, KS himself is probably a secret anti-Semite.

These alt-right trolls look for any lamest excuse to weave anti-Semitism into their narrative. Before that, it was "trans", or "muzzies". They'll find a way to turn a cooking thread into something BLM or Antifa related. Of course, the feared "SJWs" are at every corner looking for insidious ways to curtail their God-given freedom to be unabashed or, maybe, just casual bigots.

Well, Roy Moore molested a 14 year old girl because "the Jews," R350. Moore was only emulating Jesus's fake dad, Joseph, who was totally Jewish.

[quote]And dear God please put in an 'to the end of thread ' button. Scrolling through 300 responses on a cell is nuts.

Don't know about mobile, but the browser version has a down caret next to the Reply link that takes you to the last post.

Many of those antisemitic comments are by the guy that our old pal Matt says is stalking him, but who I think is actually Matt himself, pretending to be his own bete noir. I caught someone that ignore-dar said was Matt saying something antisemitic once, though the ignored tab has glitched out a few times so it's not 100% reliable.

[quote]I heard CK has a dick the size of a thumb. If it’s true, it sounds like he’s into humiliation.

I think he's even mentioned in his act he has a tiny dick.

I thought Laura Silverman was a lesbian?

She was Laura, Dr. Katz's bored, snide receptionist, on the Comedy Central Cartoon "Dr. Katz -- Professional Therapist." unlike H, Jon Benjamin and Jonathan Katz, her cartoon depiction doesn't really look anything like her. She was drawn as pretty and pert, but Laura is a big tall girl with a huge nose. I love her.

His jerking off in front of an ex is rude and obnoxious behavior, but is it really the same as jerking off in front of women he barely knows? If your ex was over and took his dick out and began rubbing it, you may become annoyed or frustrated, but it's a dick you had in your mouth many times. On the other hand, if your boss was also visiting at the same time ....

This one has several celebrity responses.

He has many bits in his comedy act that creep me the fuck out. I remember his bit about child molester s and how just maybe if we didn't think child molesting was the worst thing ever, they wouldn't end up killing their victims. All couched in some "edgy, pushing the boundaries" low level wanna be intellectual discourse, that tone that men use to hide in plain sight.

Laura Silverman was Jane, Jewish lesbian with an Oscar in The Comeback.

After seeing that unfortunate clip of him from his show where he flashes peen, the allegations seem way more believable. Why does he think anyone would want to see that?

Rosie O' Donnel trying to make this about all men. She really needs to go away.

CKinymeat

Dammit.We can't loose CK--he is a champion of the Left. How many more hits are supposed to take? Dammit!

Then who did Louis C.K. "throw in a bathroom," r100?

The stories I've heard before this article said Louis C.K. would block the exit with his big, fat body so the women couldn't get away.

Bill Maher was right to prevent people from slandering Woody Allen on a TV talk show -- he has legal liabilities and Woody Allen was never convicted -- or even prosecuted for -- sexual abuse because there was no proof and Dylan Farrow kept changing her story.

Anthony Rapp doesn't have "proof". Lots of the people talking today don't have "proof". They should still be able to talk.

Yes, r121, people should be shunned, banned and rolled just for being a douchebag.

But you minimize Fred Armisen's behavior -- he's apparently a womanizer who lies constantly and breaks promises just to "Hump and Dump."

^oh, he LIES and BREAKS PROMISES!!! Let's stone him! I bet he doesnt' go to mass every sunday either!!

Please don't take offense

I'll get naked and jerk off

So cool! See you soon!

What a strange kink.

I still listened to "Thriller" on Halloween and I enjoy Michael Jackson's music.

Yes, I know he's an evil, pedo perv. My enjoyment is tainted by that now.

[quote]I still listened to "Thriller" on Halloween

The sadness that is the DL distilled into one short, little sentence.

Oh NO! Jessica Lange has joined Meryl Streep as a sexual harasser enabler! The White Hot Flying Myth has had her wings torn off!!!!

Oh, and where did all those Lange fangurls go that assured us she would win the EMMY for FEUD?

I am glad that he gave a sincere apology and seems to realize how he has effected others. At least he sounded like he actually realized his sin.

GOTCHA MEDIA FAIL: Jon Stewart seemed surprised about the Louis C.K. report and like he didn't know about the rumors.

Like most people.

Yes, r211.

Media producers, talk show hosts and publications RIGHTFULLY SHUT DOWN HEARSAY BECAUSE THEY'RE LEGALLY LIABLE IF THEY ALLOW OTHERS TO PASS DEFAMATORY, FALSE OR SLANDEROUS INFORMATION.

You guys have no idea the rigor and pressure high-profile media types are under not to say -- or allow to be said -- any facts or accusations that aren't proven.

IT'S NOT THAT BILL MAHER IS COLLUDING WITH WOODY ALLEN, THAT STEWART IS COLLUDING WITH LOUIS C.K. AND THESE GUYS ARE CONSPIRING TO COVER UP CRIMES.

IT'S THAT THEY'RE PROTECTING THEMSELVES FROM DEFAMATION LAWSUITS FROM ALLEN, LOUIS C.K. and God knows who else.

r211 doesn't know that because he doesn't have a talk show or publication. He doesn't know media law, procedures or the litigious environment.

Louis C.K. has admitted that he did it r375.

And he has apologized.

And it seems sincere.

Nice letter. But now what?

Oh wait -- so this thread is by Illuminati loons and anti-Semitic conspiracy Nazis?

For a second there, I thought I was discussing this with respectable people.

[quote]seems to realize how he has effected others. At least he sounded like he actually realized

The word is "affected."

Dear Nazis, a.k.a. Republicans,

You can't convict Jon Stewart of conspiring to support rape and sexual harassment just because Jon Stewart BURNED YOU AND YOUR LYING, FAILED POLITICS REPEATEDLY ON TV.

Successfully showing how wrong and full-of-shit conservatives are is not the same thing as rape.

Your manic obsession to bring down a guy who hilariously embarrassed you for conservative BULLSHIT AND HYPOCRISY will have to wait for proof.

What are YOU shit-for-brains going to do about all the proof that Donald Trump has been taking millions of dollars from corrupt, Russian dictators and Ukranian oligarchs for over a decade now?

CROOKED DONALD IS GOING TO JAIL and WHITE SUPREMACY DON'T PAY THE BILLS, CLETUS.

What if Jon Stewart goes down next, or Colbert?

Who is the next dominoe to fall?!?!

Is jerking off as bad as grabbing women by the pussy?

R4 the same things are said about Bill Maher, only he's not nearly as intelligent or talented as he likes to believe he is.

Weinstein WAS "of Spielberg's caliber," r271.

As part of his act and during talk shows, he says he is a 'Mexican Jew.'

The account I heard was that female staff was apparently forced to watch this in a room. It wasn't on private time. They could leave to be fired or ostracized.

That is not merely "annoying".

I don't know who he is or what he's known for but anytime any celebrity has a downfall I have the biggest orgasm.

"I never showed my dick to a woman without asking her first."

Hey, that's probably true of most men in the world, Louis! You're just a regular guy!

Props for honesty I guess. Most of these guys seem completely beyond help but he comes across as someone who might genuinely feel bad about his sick compulsions--maybe the one among them that might actually benefit from the "sex addiction" treatment

NAZI SCUM FUCK OFF THIS THREAD.

How can you fault Louis C.K. for masturbating when that's all you do while typing on a keyboard?

It's made the Washington Post.

[Quote]Louis C.K. responds to sexual misconduct allegations: 'These stories are true'

R388, The only thing I wonder about is his interest in daddies/daughters. That's a separate thing from his interest in masturbation.

So I'm going to wait a while to see if anything else comes out. If it was just the masturbating, maybe he could be rehabbed.

r345 is a (!) Deplorable (!) Nazi (!) Racist (!) Scumbag (!) Sitting on (!) PUTIN'S FIST (!) In for a (!) BIG SURPRISE (!) When Trump goes to jail (!) !!!!

He has two tween/teen daughters who went from coolest girls in school to being openly laughed at and humiliated.

I hope Daddy’s orgasms were worth the pain his kids will suffer.

Does this mea culpa cover his other victims as well that have thus far remained silent?

Every sperm is sacred

r367 = sociopath who doesn't mind being lied to or others breaking obligation to him.

Everyone feel free to step on that doormat.

Ok, female here to explain our point of view on this for those that don't think this is a big deal. It's about power again, power over our sex to make us watch you masterbate or worry you will beat us up if we don't. But there is another aspect to it. It makes us feel dirty and makes us feel it was our fault because of the way we have been socialized about our roles in the sex game. Read what Anthony Edward's wrote feeling that was his fault as a child. Same thing. What did I do as a woman that made him think he could do that and what kind of a woman does he think I am that he thinks I think it is ok for him to sexually humiliate me like that. Did you see what I just wrote and did you read what the therapist said in the article that was linked? It is done to sexually humiliate us and he gets off sexually humiliating us like we are dirt or whores. Not humiliating himself, but us because he would do that in front of us. It is why victims like women and kids stay quiet. It is embarrassing and humiliating for us when it should be embarrassing and humiliating for them. But those are the power roles. So, no, this is not just a little nothing for women when it is done. It also reminds us who has the power and that ultimate we are powerless. Be sexually humiliated or risk being beaten or raped. Which is basically the feelings from his victims the perp is trying to achieve and what is turning him on.

Jon Stewart didn't know that, r376.

[quote]He has two tween/teen daughters who went from coolest girls in school to being openly laughed at and humiliated.

This happened way before the current scandal broke. He has a stand up routine or anecdote about walking in on his under-age-10 daughter playing with herself. This guy has zero boundaries or consideration for anyone else.

His statement is in very poor taste.

“My dick”??

Use more appropriate language, Pig.

How does he even go about explaining this to his teen daughters? I can't imagine it.

I can't imagine his relationship with them not being irrevocably ruined.

Louis' apology won't save his career.

Another guy who was a loser when he was younger and couldn't get a girl to spit on him ... same as Ratner, Harvey, Toback and the rest. I hope he gets shot in the fucking mouth with a pistol.

And oh yeah, no surprise to learn about his lineage and heritage: C.K.'s paternal grandfather, Dr. Géza Székely Schweiger, was a surgeon. Székely Schweiger was a Hungarian JEW whose family immigrated to Mexico, where he met C.K.'s paternal grandmother.

Notice the likes of Coppola, Scorsese, Pacino, De Niro and De Palma aren't being accused of anything?

Do Jewish men have weird hangups about women?

Because they all seem to be grubby and scummy little worms when it comes to sex and women.

[quote]Dammit.We can't loose CK--he is a champion of the Left

Like Harvey? These people use the left. I am sick of people who use and destroy the Left and LGB.

So far, Jason Bateman sounds the best.

I don’t agree with all this racist talks about Jews. The racism makes it difficult to have convo about what is true.

1. A man with power in HW is prone to being a scumbag predator regardless of race/religion. Because there is a very high % of Jews in power a lot of these guys getting outed are Jewish

2. There is also the reality that a lot of minority population enclaves stick together. This would explain much of Jewish success in HW and other sectors. It means they support, COVER, Influence each each other for better or worse. A victim of Harvey’s dated his brother Bob. Bob literally refused to hear anything unpleasant about Harvey to protect himself from accountability.

Weinstein talked about getting the Jewish community to run HW like a mafia. He claimed it was to fight anti Semitism but Its clear he didn’t want to end prejudice, he just wanted to push everyone else out or down and have his little club of trusted men. Ones who felt obligated to him because of their small shared community.

His apology is sincere but for me its not enough. What life system or style was he brought up in, or initiated in, that obfuscated his thinking enough were he ever thought this was ok?

$$? The delusion it was consensual despite the power differential? I am mainly disappointed that a social satire comic was so unaware.

[quote]I am mainly disappointed that a social satire comic was so unaware.

He wasn't unaware; he just thought he'd get away with it.

[quote]Dear Nazis, a.k.a. Republicans, You can't convict Jon Stewart of conspiring to support rape and sexual harassment just because Jon Stewart BURNED YOU AND YOUR LYING, FAILED POLITICS REPEATEDLY ON TV. Successfully showing how wrong and full-of-shit conservatives are is not the same thing as rape. Your manic obsession to bring down a guy who hilariously embarrassed you for conservative BULLSHIT AND HYPOCRISY will have to wait for proof. What are YOU shit-for-brains going to do about all the proof that Donald Trump has been taking millions of dollars from corrupt, Russian dictators and Ukranian oligarchs for over a decade now? CROOKED DONALD IS GOING TO JAIL and WHITE SUPREMACY DON'T PAY THE BILLS, CLETUS.

Cleanup on aisle R380!

Oh and, Hillary lost.

I don’t see how you can possibly prove the first sentence of your first point, r407, since Jews have been running Hollywood since the beginning.

You have no way of saying things wouldn’t be different if different people were running Hollywood.

In fact, considering the fact that corporate America reformed itself in the 80s regarding sexual harassment and Hollywood didn’t, I’d make the argument that things would have been very different in Hollywood if Jews hadn’t been running it.

I am so SICK of Americans turning every god damn topic on every god damn sm platform into “Hillary” & Rep vs Dem.

Take it elsewhere. This thread is about a sexual deviant.

[quote] Is it something that these guys mother's did to them, or didn't do to them, that makes them this way? Harvey Weinstein wanted girls to watch him shower, Louis CK wanted girls to watch him J/O.

My husband is a therapist and can't figure it out. He was just talking about this a few minutes ago. "Why didn't he hire an escort and pay her to watch him j/o?" he wondered

I said, "Maybe he's cheap."

R411 It’s totally privable because scumbags are being outed in droves in other areas. Those guys aren’t Jewish.

Because they want to do it in front of all these girls they would never get

R410 She would have won in any normal democracy as she got more votes.

R413, there exists a certain kind of power and privilege that leads people to believe they shouldn't have to pay for anything.

It's sickening, but I've seen very wealthy people (mostly WASPS, bigot above) expecting to be comped for things they can not only afford, but wouldn't notice if the charge showed up on their account.

So combine that with a perversion like this guy has. Of course he could pay hookers to look at him as he whacks off, but NOT paying is what makes it great.

No, he got excited knowing they were trapped in his presence. And wanted to do it in front of them because he is the guy who couldn't get girlfriends.

So what does admitting to his behavior and apologizing get him. A total pass? Will he have to go on the admit and apologize tour of talk shows, maybe speak at academic or media or industry forums? People love celeb take downs, but they also love redemption stories (to an extent).

His apology is exactly what a sociopath would say. And people are falling for it.

r366 r396 What is your beef with Fred Armisen? You're like Gretchen Weiner trying to make "fetch" happen. Are you a clam? Go start a Fred thread if you have something of substance to say, just him being an asshole is true of 99% of comedians.

He will go away for a little while and then reemerge with a one man comedy special and be hailed as a misunderstood genius.

[quote]His apology is sincere

Would have seemed more sincere if it wasn't penned in response to a New York Times article that threatens to end his career.

Do you think anyone who has done these sorts of things are going to start issuing apologies BEFORE the bombshell article drops? Like, Louis knew these stories were out there? Would their impact have been less if he had issues a statement/apology last week—getting ahead of the story?

Before this women went on the record in public he was still saying it wasn't true and it was all rumors.

He is only apologizing because he has no choice.

[quote]Louis C.K. at first dodged when asked about them. “I’m not going to answer to that stuff, because they’re rumors,” Louis C.K. said during the Toronto interview, as he told Vulture last year. But he added on Sunday, “If you actually participate in a rumor, you make it bigger and you make it real.” So it’s not real? “No.” he responded. “They’re rumors, that’s all that is.”

Oof, R425. That's pretty cut and dry. He's a disingenuous narcissist.

Nope, r403.

No sexual abuse among the Catholics at all. The Catholic God is perfect and he wants you to swallow all that priest cum.

He’s horrific, and anyone who swallows his fake apology is insane.

If you don't think Louis CK is a homophobic bigot, you haven't seen enough of his stand-up. One of his specials he says "faggot" about 10 times in the first five minutes, in an stereotypical mincing femme voice, appealing to his bro fanbase.

r407 = This "I'm a loyal dog, I just think the cats are right we should all be castrated" shit again!

"I have nothing against Jews. I just think they steal everything from everyone else and should all burn in ovens."

F/F these shitstains

Well, the Catholics teach that any and all things are forgiven if you just confess your sins to a priest, r408.

So I wonder what our resident Catholic Chauvinist Troll thinks of that. A free pass for any behavior, I'm sure.

ALL RELIGION IS A CON

We can argue forever whether the apology is sincere (as with a lot of apologies, I think he sincerely is sorry he got caught and can probably recognize the pain he's caused, but sincere concern for the victims I don't know). But I still am wondering if the apology and admitting his behavior so soon after the big public revelation affords him a path back into the industry.

Well, you're on Datalounge, r412, so every thread will be trolled by a gay, male, white chauvinist pig who uses Republican and conservative politics to aggrandize himself and denigrate minorities because it makes him feel good.

So we need to keep sussing the troll out. The Republican Party stands for the sadistic denigration of minorities now, hadn't you heard? They're Making America Great Again.

[quote]Yes, [R121], people should be shunned, banned and rolled just for being a douchebag.

Then BYE Felicia!

[quote]But you minimize Fred Armisen's behavior -- he's apparently a womanizer who lies constantly and breaks promises just to "Hump and Dump."

Please, you're a lesbian who's never been in a heterosexual relationship. Typical Stalinist radfem talk. "It's rape culture to tell a girl you love her and then dump and dump. Literal violence!"

Just shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Besides being wormy and unfunny, warranting absolutely no career in comedy, r421?

Here's my beef with Fred Armisen:

Yah, his kid -- his damn kid -- will always have those stories out there about her. Such a lovely father....

And the apology was full of shit in more places than I care to type, but his words about his manager, leaving the guy to "mitigate" were especially vile. By all accounts, the manager was a nasty, enabling asshole.

r434 is the world's First Enthusiastic Fred Armisen Fan.

r437 I like Fred Armisen too, I love Portlandia and Documentary Now. I was genuinely curious if he were a predator or just a dick cause it's weird he's being dragged but isn't guilty of things that Louis is.

Dropped by managers!

Fuck him and his "honesty". He lied right up until the point he knew he couldn't get away with lying anymore and then was being "honest".

Oh shit, r439!!

Will the shows he created and/or produced and/or writes for get canceled or will they continue without CK?

I enjoyed his shows and standup, and honestly all of the other people involved with those shows need the work, so it would suck if the shows get canceled.

Wow!

FX cuts ties!

There are TONS more examples of his despicable actions out there waiting to be revealed, he’s done.

I’m rather stunned by the obtuseness on this thread.

Cunts, his career is OVER.

He has been officially dropped by FX, HBO, TBS, Netiflix, and both his agent and publicist.

His manager is also going down.

What the fuck did you morons think would happen?

THE statement about the manager is especially vile and will take him right down with CK.

So do we think more accusations are on the horizon??

TBS suspends production on C.K. animated show The Cops.

Guy Branum, a gay comic, wrote a biting column for the Vulture. Read it if you want an insider's point of view into the cliquey comedy club these guys established.

Billy Eichner wrote on Twitter the column made him cry.

And that guy above is immediately being attacked in the comments, including by a supposed gay comic. It’s amazing what people will do to hold onto the tiniest bit of power they have.

Yea I saw that too, r450. But to be fair, that guy's article shared nothing we didn't already know.

[quote]Billy Eichner wrote on Twitter the column made him cry.

MARY!

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R452 The most tedious of all DL traditions, hands down. Speaking of comedians and comedy, was this shit ever funny in the first place? Anyone?

Oh just relax, Mary r454.

I've always got a weird vibe about Louis CK, I couldn't put my finger on it, I'm usually an extremely good judge of character. I've never found his type of creepy humor funny. To me, he always screamed, "sexual predator" or just plain freaky sexually.

He's not attractive at all. Exposing himself is probably a large part of his modus operandi when dealing with women, that's the only way ugly men think they can get women, be overt perverts? Women aren't into that shit. This man doesn't even seem a bit charming, I've never found him funny. His SNL monologue was just plain creepy.

Isn't it usually the ugliest weirdest looking straight men who are revealed to be predators and molesters? Weinstein, that other ugly fat director now Louis? None of these men are attractive in the least.

His statement reveals so much more about him, with the repetitive mentions how all the women "admired" him, and he took advantage of their "admiration."

{quote]I've always got a weird vibe about Louis CK, I couldn't put my finger on it

I wish you'd tried.

Yeah that part stuck out r457. He still thinks the power he had over these women was due to “admiration”, not his ability to get any one of them blacklisted if they spoke out. The ego on this asshole...

I liked some of his stuff but did find some of his sexual jokes weird. I vaguely recall a creepy masturbation routine he did, he seemed to think the viewers would all be in on the joke and I remember thinking "who's this "we" because I think it's just you. Also I turned off a routine he did about his child's private parts because it was just too gross. Not only the content but thinking about the poor girl's embarrassment.

[quote]I like Fred Armisen too, I love Portlandia and Documentary Now. I was genuinely curious if he were a predator or just a dick cause it's weird he's being dragged but isn't guilty of things that Louis is.

I don't think Armisen is a predator. He's just a womanizing asshole. I've seen a few posts in recent threads where people predict that Arimsen will be outed next as a predator.

R380, R398 and R389= Matthew the Zionist/Jewish/Goyim troll who hates anyone and anything that's NOT Jewish.

You need meds Matthew. Please get help.

Jon Stewart SHOULD be called out on how he knew all about Louis CK and other comedians or people in the entertainment industry who are sexual assaulers, sexual abusers, predators, etc.

R404 a lot seem to. I blame it on circumcision.

Health officials have reached a tentative agreement with New York City's ultra-Orthodox community over regulating the controversial practice known as metzitzah b'peh, or "oral suction circumcisions," the Associated Press reported Tuesday. The tradition of metzitzah b'peh goes back to biblical times but has created a modern-day dilemma for religiously observant mankind. New York City officials linked the practice to 17 cases of infant herpes since 2000, of whom two died. In the latest development, the city will stop requiring mohels who use oral suction to have parents sign consent forms, which many hadn't complied with anyway. Instead the city will focus its efforts on educating members of the ultra-Orthodox community about the risks and dangers of the practice. "Our goal is to achieve awareness of the risks," city representative Avi Fink stated.

Umm that was not an apology and r397 is right on.

[quote]Jon Stewart SHOULD be called out on how he knew all about Louis CK and other comedians or people in the entertainment industry who are sexual assaulers, sexual abusers, predators, etc.

I remember liking Jon Stewart when he was first on the Daily Show. But, something just turned me off about him years later. Same with Stephen Colbert.

[quote]The most tedious of all DL traditions, hands down.

Very Mary-like sentiment, Mary.

[quote]I don't think Armisen is a predator. He's just a womanizing asshole. I've seen a few posts in recent threads where people predict that Arimsen will be outed next as a predator.

Fred was married to Elisabeth Moss, she was much younger than him, guess she wasn't t enough, he cheated on her too. Awhile back, she made a joke about him and their marriage, think this was on Seth Meyers show, she didn't mention Fred by name, Seth picked up on who she was talking about. I think Seth was writing for SNL when Fred was on the show, Seth must know about him.

Yeah, I know Elisabeth is a Clam, but that has nothing to do with Fred being a cheater. Fred knew her 'religious' afflictions before marrying her.

Fred also gives me a weird vibe, he looks like a perv. He's talented, but super creepy looking. As I said in an old DL post, Fred looks like frog getting surprise anal.

[quote]I think Seth was writing for SNL when Fred was on the show, Seth must know about him.

There were castmates. I think Seth might have a producer's credit on Portlandia or Documentary Now!.

R462 There are a million reasons I hate/loathe Jon Stewart. Not one is because he is a Jewby.

Fred Armison is in "Difficult People", a show that has been going after Spacey and Travolta since day 1. I would like to think he would not be there if he had a reputation in the industry but who knows anymore.

[quote]There were castmates. I think Seth might have a producer's credit on Portlandia or Documentary Now!.

I wasn't sure if Seth was still behind the scenes or on camera at that point. IIRC, Seth started at SNL as a writer. Yes, he's a producer for Documentary Now! not sure about Portlandia.

btw R470, I didn't say Fred was a predator, but he is a known cheater.

[quote]I am mainly disappointed that a social satire comic was so unaware.

[quote]He wasn't unaware; he just thought he'd get away with it.

This. His statement is nothing more than damage control.

In a nearly 500-word statement, Louis C.K. did not say "sorry" once

Jon Stewart is rumored to be interested in potentially running Vanity Fair

I just read his statement. He doesn't really talk about what he did, and he doesn't say he is sorry, but he says the women he harassed ADMIRED him four times. (What an insane joke! He is as transparent as Trump)

I mean he said that they ADMIRED him - he wrote that four times, the same word - admire.

Crazy. Stupid!

Haven't seen that "Difficult People" show, but everyone in it looks repulsive.

Is it repulsive people making fun of/celebrating repulsive people? I am sick of that.

So basically Armisen is an asshole because he cheated on that unattractive clam chick? Okay, I guess I can buy that, why the fuck are we still talking about him?

CK’s apology was a joke and was pretty offensive.

No, he's not finished. He's a stand-up first and foremost. He can lie low (lay?), claim to go to intensive therapy then come back with a stand-up tour in middle America, or in specific venues. One person upthread already said that s/he was upset because CK was one of the few public leftists. If the Trump situation gets any worse, people will eventually overlook this, especially since this was not sexual assault.

It depends on whether or not this goes to the 1% level it should. Right now, the media lackeys are only doing stories around the #metoo hashtag. They're not going after the people who need to be exposed.

Oh yeah, Middle America will love him so much...

If there's one thing that's been proven time and time again it's that finding Jesus is a sure cure for whatever ails you as far as Middle America is concerned.

r473 CK carries a lot of anger from his childhood around, particularly about his mother, who used to regularly hit him when he was younger. I am NOT excusing his behaviour, but it had a deep effect on him, and has come out over the years in interviews. Bill Burr had similar experiences but so far doesn't seem to have crossed the line.

He has a creepy face like Terry Richardson

FWIW, (probably not much) CK isn't Jewish, cuz his ma isn't (wasn't ). That's how it works.

Oh you know Bill Burr will be keeping quiet right now. He's the quintessential straight white guy pissed about the changing culture that doesn't totally cater to and revolve around them anymore. It's his whole shtick--and hardly an attractive one to have at this point in time.

Social media was the game changer--now all the "others" get to have a voice. Comedy is changing, whether these old straight white guys want it or not. Being a douchebro comic who jokes about jerking off and how women are ball busting nags isn't considered funny anymore.

“Guys who engage in this type of behavior are incredibly rageful towards females. It often harkens back to childhood abuse. For example, maybe they had mothers who were emotionally abusive or who didn’t protect them from abusive fathers.”

Ladies and gentlemen, please don’t beat, molest, or otherwise abuse your kids unless you want to see them grow up to be fucked up deviants.

Or lie to them, ever!

I never found him funny, so I was always flummoxed by his mass appeal and success. Plus, for some reason, people heralded him as the fucking "Francois Truffaut of comedy" who was beyond reproach in every way, professionally and personally.

I would also be ASTOUNDED by my gay friends who admired Louis CK -- especially because he seemingly loved to use the word "faggot" in his act. It's like he gleefully grits his teeth whenever he says it. That Cinnabun joke is one of the most homophobic things I've ever heard. And it's stomach turning to hear the crowd cheer, laugh, and applaud him.

R175 I've heard the rumors for years, and I actually came across that video when it was first uploaded. I never really liked Jon and this validated it. He plays dumb yet manages to be so smug and patronizing at the same time. ("Oh you read Gawker, that's so 'cute.' I didn't read 'the tweets,' hehe.") Yeah Jon, Louis is a deviant like Cosby and you knew it! Fucker.

Burr points out a lot of women's fucked up bullshit. We do at DL, but then we got invaded by LSA trolls who blame men for everything. The troll infestation (of all kinds) is ridiculous. Plus, the corporate 1% will back whatever trend will make them money, so now the pendulum has swung too far the other way because that's where the money is.

There used to be a lot more posters in the middle, but that's gone now. It's too bad, because the ignore feature allows you to put the extremists aside, but there are just too many now, and they clear their cookies.

Louis CK is an American hero, and a national treasure.

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R455 Great contribution and not a waste of a post at all. The WWs I received would suggest I'm not the only one bored to death of that "zinger".

I'm waiting for the Ahnold to be called out. He used to sit in his trailer with just a towel around his waist and flash or let his towel open on unsuspecting PAs and one reporter. He got a big kick out of it.

"Burr points out a lot of women's fucked up bullshit."

You mean like how they buy assault weapons and slaughter total strangers? How their criminal and mentally ill behavior causes millions of dollars in economic damage? How they sexually harass and assault others to block their professional advancement? How women need to be in charge everywhere because they are so fucking superior in every way and resent being held accountable for their non stop fuckups? Oh, that's right, I forgot, women are the majority of child rapists, child porn consumers and responsible for human trafficking.

Men are such clueless and arrogant cunts.

[About Ratner] Munn recounted a similar account. The actress said that when she was filming After The Sunset, she brought a meal to Ratner’s trailer, only to have him masturbate in front of her

This is a pig and failed man being aggressive against a woman. Like CK.

There was some "explanation" linked upthread where 1950s style they tried to blame it on the mother. It's failed men who could never get the girl, have never had normal social relationships. They are slobs with power being pigs and exacting revenge on pretty girls who are in their orbit with less power.

[quote]Haven't seen that "Difficult People" show, but everyone in it looks repulsive.

[quote]Is it repulsive people making fun of/celebrating repulsive people? I am sick of that.

Yeah, that's pretty much it was. I liked it though. It doesn't get a lot of maintstream attention.

Can’t stand Bill Burr. He’s another comic who has rage issues and hates women. And of course, is hero worshiped by douchebros

[quote]. It doesn't get a lot of maintstream attention.

Maybe not that show in particular but the celebration of repulsive people in music/poltics/tv/movies/internet/instagram/tumblr has been going on for a least a decade or more

[quote]You mean like how they buy assault weapons and slaughter total strangers? How their criminal and mentally ill behavior causes millions of dollars in economic damage? How they sexually harass and assault others to block their professional advancement? How women need to be in charge everywhere because they are so fucking superior in every way and resent being held accountable for their non stop fuckups? Oh, that's right, I forgot, women are the majority of child rapists, child porn consumers and responsible for human trafficking.

All very true. None of which precludes women from doing their own fucked up stuff. Like the girl who accused my friend's 16-year-old son of raping her when she visited him one night. Fortunately they have nanny cams installed in the house, so they were able to watch and see that their son's claims of innocence were true. Now they're going through trying to clear their son's name, but the accuser and her mother are claiming they're falsifying the video evidence by somehow switching date stamps or something.

Assholes exist in all races and genders.

He doesn’t say sorry once in that statement, but talks about his dick (weird, inappropriate) twice. It’s like he’s writing a bit and taunting the victims.

I agree, r501.

His tone is aggressive and sneering.

The weird complicity (and that’s absolutely what it is) of people like Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, Pam Adlon, Aziz Ansari, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Conan, etc., is quite disturbing and upsetting. Watching Bill Maher last night was extraordinary as Silverman was on the panel and not a single fucking word, despite the fact that her SISTER spent the day on Twitter talking about what a scumbag CK is. So, Sarah obviously knew. And not a WORD from her. Unreal.

I’m fans of most of them, but unless they address this they are doing huge damage to themselves and their careers.

It's a Pervnado!

Has Marc Maron ever spoke about this?

I’m nervous about Maron who clearly has major issues with women himself.

Marc Maron

I've never understood his popularity. His obsessions with dick and scatolgical jokes have always made him seem creepy to me. Whenever I'd see him I'd grab the remote, moaning, "Ewww, not him again."

R500 I'm not sure whether I'm more offended that you think we would believe that tale or that you yourself might believe it.

And on a related note when women do fuck up (and they of course sometimes do) why do we think that justifies the existence of misogynistic comics/rappers/radio hosts to keep them in line and call them out on their BS. Would we follow that line of thinking when it comes to race and sexuality? Do Spacey and Cosby require blatant racism and homophobia to call them out.

Will SNL touch it?

Of course I believe it, R509. I'm watching it get played out over the last week. Makes no difference to me whether you believe it.

r510 No, it’s a NYC thing

R510 No,.

What he did is not funny, therefore lampooning it is not funny. I know how Lorne thinks and he will not touch this story any time soon.

He is obviously not as hugely famous as he or some fans think he is, as evidenced by how at least half of the news reports over the past two days refer to him as "Lewis SeeKay"

That must sting him hard.

R500 where did the alleged rape take place and where was the nanny cam. I'm hoping there wasn't a nanny cam in her sons bedroom and I hope the nanny cam didn't capture any nudity or sexual contact between the minors. This will get nasty. Airbnb hosts have been getting sued for having cameras in their homes and losing. I have a coworker who was filmed on a hidden cam in his Airbnb rental taking a pastry from the kitchen. THE host fined him $5 through the site. He sued because he didn't know there were cameras and he won a $15,000 settlement. Having footage of minors fooling around or having a camera in a location where such footage couldn't be captured would destroy a person's life. Good look to your friend.

That said my niece was raped in 2011. Her rapist was convincited and got an 8 year sentence. His parents defended him all the way and still claim his innocence. My brother in law had a nervous breakdown and was institutionalised for 6 months. During that time my niece attempted suicide. The rape was destroyed a lovely family and I would have serious reservations believing everything I hear from a parent who is always going to defend their baby.

[quote]There was some "explanation" linked upthread where 1950s style they tried to blame it on the mother. It's failed men who could never get the girl, have never had normal social relationships.

A young boy’s relationship with his mother or a girl’s relationship with her father is the formative template they have for how to relate to members of the opposite sex for the rest of their lives. In this case his mother beating him and making him feel like a worthless piece of shit as a child clearly has something to do with him becoming a “failed man” as an adult.

[quote]The weird complicity (and that’s absolutely what it is) of people like Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, Pam Adlon, Aziz Ansari, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Conan, etc., is quite disturbing and upsetting. Watching Bill Maher last night was extraordinary as Silverman was on the panel and not a single fucking word, despite the fact that her SISTER spent the day on Twitter talking about what a scumbag CK is. So, Sarah obviously knew. And not a WORD from her. Unreal.

[quote]I’m fans of most of them, but unless they address this they are doing huge damage to themselves and their careers.

Aldon has the most to lose. CK helped her out the most. The others will slowly and quietly distance themselves from CK because they have enough pull to keep their careers going.

More on the alleged Louis CK's kid he had with Amy Poehler, please. I had never heard about this before. The kid sure looks a lot like Louis. Any more details on where/when/how it happened? TIA

Thank god that is not Will's kid! I cringed when I saw a picture of him years ago and felt so bad for Gob Bluth.

[quote]More on the alleged Louis CK's kid he had with Amy Poehler, please. I had never heard about this before. The kid sure looks a lot like Louis. Any more details on where/when/how it happened? TIA

The rumor was that Amy and Louis started an affair shortly after he started guest starring on Parks and Rec and she got pregnant.

Louis CK's "apology" has got to be one of the most narcissistic things I've ever read. For reasons I'll never understand, he was treated like the Pope of comedy and everyone kissed his ring -- so no wonder he's obsessed with his own "admiration."

"The power I had over these women is that they ADMIRED me." "I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who ADMIRED me feeling badly about themselves..." "I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely ADMIRED in my and their community..."

I'm a progressive and a liberal, but I'm so amused by the likes of Jon Stewart, Sarah Silverman, Aziz Ansari, et al, digging themselves into a hole over this one. They act like such feminist allies yet they covered Louis's ass for years.

Sarah Silverman's case is especially confounding, because Louis compulsively fapped in front of her own sister. I can't wait to hear whatever excuse she comes up with. She was on Bill Maher last night, but oddly the subject never came up during the panel segment or "overtime"...

If it were a conservative entertainer doing this Lorne would blast him to smithereens.

I always loved this bit of his... and i loved his tv shows (and Better Things). I'm sad he had to fuck it up.

[quote]I'm a progressive and a liberal, but I'm so amused by the likes of Jon Stewart, Sarah Silverman, Aziz Ansari, et al, digging themselves into a hole over this one. They act like such feminist allies yet they covered Louis's ass for years.

I get what you're saying. I thought Jon Stewart just more smug over the years and I attended a Democratic Party meeting in my area a couple of years ago where they played clips of Stewart on the Daily Show and I was annoyed except for the clip where he rightfully called out the NYPD out on the Eric Garner case.

Aziz Ansari has been called out on being a hypocrite on other issues. People who knew him pre-fame said that he was all about hanging out with white people and dating white women. Then all of sudden he became about promoting diversity and dating non-white women. Silverman has a history of hanging out and dating douches. It was mentioned up thread that she dated Jimmy Kimmel during his Man Show period and her rape jokes pissed off a lot of people. She has to be pissed at her sister for revealing her experiences with CK.

On a related note, during the election last year my friend's idiot step-mom was defending Trump's pussy grabbing talk video and saying that a lot of men are just like that and that people made too much of a big deal. A few weeks ago, she posted #metoo on Facebook. I hate to sound cruel but I side eyed her. Of course, she didn't say what her #metoo incident was, but her previous defense of Trump was off putting.

[quote]I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who ADMIRED me feeling badly about themselves.

Shouldn't he have said feeling 'bad' about themselves?

His statement was smarmy and pretty hostile.

R524 Agreed -- a lot of these people are a mixed bag anyway, but I just find it interesting how their allegiance to Louis is so cultish.

Jon Stewart has made some good points over the years of course, but he mostly just toes the progressive line. He's not that savvy, and his political analysis usually misses the mark (e.g. when he insisted that Senate Republicans were going to regret *not* confirming Merrick Garland). I get so turned off again when I see him in that David Axelrod video. That student asks him about Louis's rumored (yet well-documented) transgressions, and he responds by playing dumb in the most condescending, patronizing way possible. He also has a "do you know who you're talking to??" moment.

I didn't know that about Aziz, but I'm not surprised at all. He does date a lot of white chicks on 'Master of None' and IRL. I happen to like 'Master of None,' and I never really paid much attention to Aziz before the series -- but I think that's really a credit to Alan Yang.

Aziz also did some very public mourning and eulogizing of Harris Wittels, who by many accounts, was an asshole of the highest order. Sarah Silverman pulled the same shit too, posting a sappy tribute to him. So you're right, I guess this is just who these people are.

[quote] But if that last bit sounds a little over-volatile to you, well: buckle your seatbelt. After his e-mail had been sent and published, Wittels proceeded to find Shah on Twitter and bombard her with insults, calling her “sociopathic” and “cunty.” (From his Twitter feed, it would seem that he's since deleted the trolling, but Shah kept and published screen caps.) An anonymous troll used Wittels' harassment as cover for his or her own, sending an e-mail to the Gawker Media offices which claimed that Shah “deserves to die and all the parks writers will gladly fuck the shit out of her dirty lifeless body.” And when Shah herself reached out to Wittels, showing him the rape/death threat, he chose to double down, writing yet another insulting e-mail and signing off with “you're a cunt.” To another Defamer representative, he wrote that “my intention of calling her a cunt was to call her a cunt (because she is you see).”

r527 and the executives at Parks ( including Poehler) did nothing about it when they found out. An NBC exec had to come in clean house and fire him. At least, that’s how I remember it.

R528 yep, sounds about right. They're all part of the Dave Becky flock, so they've already proven themselves to have ZERO integrity in these situations.

Rally to Restore Smug Creeps

[quote]A young boy’s relationship with his mother or a girl’s relationship with her father is the formative template they have for how to relate to members of the opposite sex for the rest of their lives. In this case his mother beating him and making him feel like a worthless piece of shit as a child clearly has something to do with him becoming a “failed man” as an adult

His parents divorced when he was a kid.? Where was his father? I lot of problem men do not have a father figure because the father wasn't around for one reason or another.

I was referring to the article linked which specifically blamed mothers for this failed man behavior, not CK's personal life, which I do not know. I saw the divorce of the parents mentioned on his wiki page.

A lot of children suffer from harm from fathers, mothers, and siblings. The human ones, who make an effort to be human do not take it out on other people.

[quote]I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who ADMIRED me feeling badly about themselves.

Fucking hell, what an asshole.

I love how he says and thinks the women felt bad about *themselves*, rather than disgusted with him.

That statement is just another thing that shows that was a fucking psycho he is.

Harris Wittels was another fucking psycho and had he lived and gained other TV writing and producing jobs he would have likely ended up in the situation that CK, Singer, Spacey, and Rattner are in.

I see right-wing freaks like r524 and r527 are out in full force. Why are you freaks obsessed with Jon Stewart? You assume everyone gets their information and opinions from television figures.

[quote]I love how he says and thinks the women felt bad about *themselves*, rather than disgusted with him.

And they ADMIRED him.

[quote] "Some people" seem to think DL and gay men invented fat shaming. What a load of ignorant horse shit.

Gay men didn't invent fat shaming, they just took it to the next level.

Hollywood has been feeding us a diet of ugly brainwashing from creeps for decades - "comedy", "sexuality," and the world seen through their eyes.

[quote] In this case his mother beating him

Sounds like she didn't beat him hard enough. He's still alive to tell lame jokes.

He took responsibility, he is paying the price, I hope he survives.

R535, I'm actually an avowed lefty...and Jon Stewart's an overrated HACK who perpetuates that smug, white brand of liberalism I despise. He once blew up at the single black writer on 'The Daily Show' who called him out on his shit.

The unfortunate truth is that a lot of people *do* get their information (or rather misinformation) from television figures. Case in point, the reality TV star some voters elected president.

.....

He's a member of the tribe. I'm sure he'll survive.

Yes, R525, "bad." But what can you expect from a perv?

This work is at such a level of comic genius that I hope people can move past this and forgive him. What he did wasn't SO bad and what he gives back to society makes it more than worthwhile for us all to move beyond this.

When we evaluate each of these case we must weigh the crimes not only by their severity, but also against what the actor/producer/director gives back to the world through his or her art.

Comments like r545 should be studied in mandatory Jewsplaining 101 classes at every college.

Bye bye r546.

[R163] That guy isn't very aroused. I would be insulted.

Can someone quote or link to something funny that he did?

I only saw him in American Hustle. I am not familiar with his comedy.

R545, I strongly disagree with this. "Artists" are not entitled to special consideration or leniency. That's close to saying that rich people should be entitled to buy their way out of being punished for their crimes. We actually can live without Weinstein/Spacey/Louis CK, et al. The world is full of talented people, most of whom would be willing to share their art without molesting people. They are the ones who deserve opportunities.

[R189] Performers/Producers etc. are paid royalties when their projects are streamed, so if there's one that's in an iffy situation, morally or legally, the site may disassociate from doing business with them or seeming to support the. I'm fine with that...it's not my company that could suffer, it's theirs. They will make the decision they think if financially sound for them.

Oh, his collapse CAME.

Harder and with a bigger load than any he's ever blown for an audience.

R545: I strongly disagree with that "artists get a pass" bullshit as well. Twaddle. Untruth. The best artists / creatives I've met are actually sensitive types that are driven out by the predatory assholes of the business world.

[R. 545 ] Louis' publicist.

I'm sure he's working feverishly to develop a bit about this, and in a few months when the dust settles we'll all hear about his freaky sex life in excruciating detail as part of his new show, probably on HBO.

R545 you do have a point about truly great artists. So many of them are great because they are eaten up by their demons which may manifest themselves in great art but they are absolute shits, Nazis, assholes, abusers, etc. Celine, Pound, Eliot, Picasso - the list is endless. BUT they are truly great. Comedians don't qualify, nor do actors.

R549, I thought this was funny, although there is a weird/perverted part in it.

Louis CK is funny. I enjoy his self-deprecating rants about masturbation.

It's a very slippery slope to go down. And opens the gate to all kinds of deplorable claiming they have a great deal to offer society and that outweighs their wrongdoings. Politicians will claim their years of public service, religious leaders their community service, surgeons the lives they've saved. Plain old rich assholes will say they pay a few million in taxes and wouldn't it be better to leave him in his job. The only people being punished would be poor people and we need to be better than that as a society. Sorry but it's nice to laugh, it's nice to look at a nice painting or watch a great play but these people are not above the law or the bounds of human decency.

In his last show he talked about being obsessed with Magic Mike and getting an erection whenever he watched the trailer and saw Mcconaughey and Tatum. Wonder if he jerked off in front of them?

I enjoy his self-deprecating exhibitionism in front of shocked and disgusted shiksas.

[quote]Louis CK is funny. I enjoy his self-deprecating rants about masturbation.

-r558, posting from this past Thursday

I feel sorry for all the innocents losing their jobs, all the crews put out of work overnight. I can't imagine going to work on Monday and being told my boss was busted for something so they're shutting the company down, pack my stuff and bye. It's so unfair to have to lose your livelihood over some asshole.

R563 90% of crew members are equally vile, not-my-job, soulless, what-can-you-do-for-my-career douchebags that are not to be pitied.

That piece on H. Wittels was wild, in itself and otherwise. The name rang a distant bell and I realized it was because of a long, long article I read about him -- in an ostensibly decent-quality media outlet -- after he died.

Fair enough that any article after he died isn't going to start, "Harris Wittels, who got publicly vicious with someone who criticized him, died Saturday...," but nothing about that? Nothing brief tucked in toward the bottom when it talks about him wrestling w. demons?

Did Harris Wittels do something disgusting, too? What?

R564 I'm a cameraman. I work on a long running TV show and love our crew. I've been in the industry for 16 years. I've worked in 4 countries and haven't found the industry any worse (or better) than any other and I was late breaking in to TV at 38. For the most part the people I've met have just been trying to pay their bills and wrap early on Friday. At my current job we're about 30% female too so I've never experienced a very toxic boysclub and I've never experienced any homophobia either. That's not to say I doubt any of the stories, I don't. But i do resent the entire industry down to us grunt workers being smeared by association. If our show was cancelled without warning today I would be up shit creek because I got my mortgage on the stength of having a contract until 2019.

R565 -- I know, I never heard about Harris Wittels either until all of those tributes poured in after his death. Someone mentioned the Twitter harassment thing on another thread and that was the first I heard of it.

Apparently, he was just like Louis CK in that he believed feminism and comedy are diamentricaly opposed. He was also an adamant defender of rape jokes...what a mensch!

I looked up his material, but he's another comedy genius I don't quite get. His humor just seems really bro-ish, and he doesn't make jokes so much as douchey musings (e.g. "I'm starting a cult. Gettin all the ladies pregs and the dudes will do farm work and I'll play songs in the evening.").

I wish straight men would leave us out of their humor. Every time they try to be edgy, they go for women as we are an easy target but wouldn't even dream of going after Black Lives Matter or Muslims or some shit like that. And you know BLM and muslims are the biggest whiners out there and a prime target for mocking.

R568 Wittels used do a lot of spots on comedy podcasts that I listen to and you could tell that he was a dude bro asshole.

R570, and a heroin addict to boot! I'm sure that made him a complete pleasure to be around... His mother eulogized him as "a nice boy," of course she never realized she raised a ginormous asshole.

Wittels' family cashed in on his career connections after his death. His sister is releasing a memoir about his death in March.

R572, I think a big part of his sister's angle will be how their mother got the news (via text alerts/messages, before anyone else could reach out to her). It's funny how his sister mentions that Harris was a bad student, but their mother claims he got straight A's in her article about him...

His sister once spoke great length about the commenters who trolled Harris' social media after he died, deriding him as a "junkie." But her brother WAS a junkie, and a nasty junkie at that. He surely hurled much worse invective at people during his lifetime. Most addicts I know are insufferable human beings, so at least she could acknowledge that his "disease" made him an even bigger asshole.

Also, I'm sick of hearing about the word "humblebrag," as if it rivals Einstein's theory of relativity in terms of importance.

"The weird complicity (and that’s absolutely what it is) of people like Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, Pam Adlon, Aziz Ansari, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Conan, etc., is quite disturbing and upsetting. Watching Bill Maher last night was extraordinary as Silverman was on the panel and not a single fucking word, despite the fact that her SISTER spent the day on Twitter talking about what a scumbag CK is. So, Sarah obviously knew. And not a WORD from her. Unreal. "

Now that it's come out, its sorta weird she hasn't addressed it, but it's not weird at all that all these people kept quiet over the years in all these different situations. It really is up to the victim - in any industry. It's not "right", people should be more willing to come forward. But, people naturally are trying to protect their interests first, and the main interest is usually keeping a job and being able to pay the bills. That's a depressing reality, but everyone gets SO self righteous about people "not speaking up" and thereby being "complicit," as if you expect everyone to risk their jobs and their reputation by not responding to anything and everything around them. Of course there are people who are so principled that they risk a lot and do speak up, and it would be great if there were more. But, I think the vast majority of people in any industry don't speak up and unless government and/or the private sector are really going to look at workplace abuse issues and seriously create an environment where the majority of the time speaking up won't spell doom for the person speaking, not much is going to change.

"It's a slippery slope. "

That's because Louis uses baby oil.

[quote]That's a depressing reality, but everyone gets SO self righteous about people "not speaking up" and thereby being "complicit," as if you expect everyone to risk their jobs and their reputation by not responding to anything and everything around them.

But that’s not what we’re talking about here. What galls people isn’t his fellow performers failure to speak up; it’s that they kept working with him and giving him opportunities and platforms on their shows.

Case in point: Mike Schur, creator of Parks & Rec, who admitted he knew about the allegations but cast CK regardless; he has since apologized. Stewart no doubt had a huge amount of say in who guested on TDS especially towards the end of the run, but Louie continued to get on the show. This is the complicity that we’re discussing.

"Brett Ratner's Hugh Hefner biopic put on hold by Playboy"

How will the world function without this?

Bill Burr - Louis C.K.'s Sexual Misconduct

r578 expected

Burr doesn't get it, especially with his manager. Maron does.

Video review of his movie by Alonso Duralde, Christy Lemire and Ben Mankiewicz, if anyone's interested.

Alonso and Christy saw it even before the NYT story broke and still they felt iffy about it.

I love a seedy ginger - Oliver on The Affair, for instance - but Louis is plain repulsive.