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Let's talk about Noah Baumbach, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Greta Gerwig

Let's talk about how Noah left Jennifer while she was pregnant with his child and then schemed with Greta Gerwig to revise history and act as if they got together long after instead of just admitting they'd been fucking the whole time!

Let's talk about Noah's horrible movies too!

by Anonymousreply 10107/16/2018

OP = Jennifer Jason Leigh

by Anonymousreply 109/16/2017

I made it because I've worked with him and someone mentioned him in the oscar thread as a contender and I found it despicable and thought it might be gossip of interest.

by Anonymousreply 209/16/2017

Greta Gerwig wasn't even born when Fast Times at Ridgemont High was released.

by Anonymousreply 311/28/2017

[R2] Is Noah as awful as I imagine? He seems like a total narcissist control freak and Greta is a cloying cunt. Seems like common knowledge that Greta was fucking Noah right after Jennifer had their baby.

by Anonymousreply 412/06/2017

This is second hand, but I heard, probably about twenty years ago, that JJL is very nice and sensitive, but keeps picking men who are total jerks. Picking Baumbach fits the pattern (the guy she was dating at the time was an pompous dick, too).

by Anonymousreply 512/06/2017

[R5] Yeah, I definitely get the nice, sensitive vibe from her. Yuck, hope karma hits Baumbach hard.

by Anonymousreply 612/06/2017

That movie starring Ben Stiller as the nasty guy who moves to LA was supposedly autobiographical so..........

BTW Greta Gerwig seems like sort of a dim bulb in interviews.

by Anonymousreply 712/06/2017

[R7] I think that's just Greta trying to be endearing. There are a few interviews where she's serious and seems like a completely different person, like her manic pixie stoner girl schtick is a complete schtick

by Anonymousreply 812/06/2017

He gives his brother a lot of acting jobs

by Anonymousreply 912/06/2017

I hate him.

by Anonymousreply 1012/07/2017

The horny acting-out kid brother from Squid and Whale is a prof at Columbia and is reputedly a nice guy and well-liked by his students

by Anonymousreply 1112/07/2017

I don't think infidelity by consenting adults is a huge priority right now in Hollywood. Even if some of the people involved are dicks.

by Anonymousreply 1212/07/2017

and cunts

by Anonymousreply 1312/07/2017

What's Baumbach like to work with OP? Did you work with Greta too?

by Anonymousreply 1412/07/2017

[R11] Owen Kline?

by Anonymousreply 1512/07/2017

I can't stand Greta Gerwig as a person, but Lady Bird was pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 1612/07/2017

[R16] Do you know her personally?

by Anonymousreply 1712/07/2017


by Anonymousreply 1812/08/2017

not the actor Owen Kline, but the character of the Noah's younger brother, who is now a university prof

by Anonymousreply 1912/08/2017

I liked Lady Bird. Baumbach's relationship with JLL ended ages ago, time to move on.

by Anonymousreply 2012/08/2017

Owen and his sister are surprisingly homely.

by Anonymousreply 2112/08/2017

well, certainly not gorgeous, but not grotesque. a stylist for that hair could likely do wonders.

by Anonymousreply 2212/08/2017

Greta is so fucking annoying and contrived

by Anonymousreply 2312/08/2017

I went to the NY Film Fest premiere of Margot at the Wedding. When the (tedious) movie ended the lights came on and I realized I was sitting right next to Jennifer, and Noah was on the other side of her. I figured that out when they stood up and everybody in the theater applauded them.

Then they did a Q and A and Noah came off like a real Jewish douche.

by Anonymousreply 2412/08/2017

Which character in Squid and the Whale was based on Noah?

Was it the younger brother who smeared his jizz all over his middle school?

by Anonymousreply 2512/08/2017

I know nothing of Baumbach yet the photo at R24 makes me want to beat him with a sledgehammer. A douche face if I ever saw one.

by Anonymousreply 2612/08/2017

in S&W. Eisenberg was the older Noah, Kline was the younger brother with the jizz problem

by Anonymousreply 2712/08/2017

I never knew “The Squid & The Whale” was autobiographical. Eisenberg comes off as a real tool. Then again he’s like that in real life so maybe he wasn’t really acting.

by Anonymousreply 2812/09/2017

R23 I think her music is decent. I have a friend who works for a production company that told me the son Owen is making a big movie right now with the people that put out Ladybird. searched his name and found this thread

by Anonymousreply 2901/29/2018

I liked SQUID AND THE WHALE, mostly due to the strong performances (at that point Eisenberg wasn't so annoying, and Laura Linney was wonderful).

MARGOT AT THE WEDDING had some strong scenes (the interview scene with Margot and her ex-husband was riveting), but Jack Black was such a bad piece of casting.

GREENBERG was tiresome, and Gerwig was very underwhelming, like JLL on quaaludes. The only other film of his I watched was the MEYERWITZ STORIES, which was mediocre.

I'm not a fan of JLL really - after suffering through her dreadful, lock-jaw performance as Dorothy Parker and her very mannered acting in GEORGIA, DOLORES CLAIBORNE, and her lamentable attempt to play Catherine Sloper in WASHINGTON SQUARE, I tended to avoid her films unless she was part of an ensemble.

Gerwig has talent as a writer and director based on LADY BIRD - certainly more so than as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 3001/29/2018

I like MARGO AT THE WEDDING for Nicole Kidman at her icy best, even if none else managed to make their character make sense at all, but man, THE SQUID AND THE WHALE epitomised chatty-white-intelegensia-indie-by-the-numbers-hell for me. I tried rewatching it last year and still hated it.

by Anonymousreply 3101/29/2018

I fucking hated Kicking & Screaming and haven't been able to warm to anything else he's done afterward, either. He's intolerable.

I love Jennifer Jason Leigh. I loved her Dorothy Parker. I loved Georgia. I loved Tra La La. And Pepper in Miami Blues and the licking jizz off her son's tube sock mom in Skipped Parts and pretty much every single thing she's ever done.

Gerwig...Lady Bird didn't show anything about teenage-girlhood or mother/daughter relationships that we haven't already seen before. And I find her onscreen persona grating.

by Anonymousreply 3201/29/2018

I was surprised that Greta said things like I would not work with Woody Allen again, I would never dare to accuse a man who has not been convicted by a court (correct me if I'm wrong please). And she is the least suitable person to talk about morality considering that she has been with a man who is old enough to be his father. And all I know about Noah is that he was married to the discreet and wonderful Jennifer Jason Leigh, who was once the girlfriend of Jason Patric, the handsome actor from 'Lost Boys' and with whom she coincided in Rush.

by Anonymousreply 3307/07/2018

[quote]I was surprised that Greta said things like I would not work with Woody Allen again, I would never dare to accuse a man who has not been convicted by a court (correct me if I'm wrong please). And she is the least suitable person to talk about morality considering that she has been with a man who is old enough to be his father.

Woody Allen's father would be 117.

by Anonymousreply 3407/07/2018

re r11, what do you mean? the horny acting kid brother from Squid and the Whale is Kevin Kline's son. are you saying the character he played is now an academic?

by Anonymousreply 3507/07/2018

Greta Gerwig is basically Lena Dunham but thinner. She can go fuck herself.

by Anonymousreply 3607/07/2018

I loved Kicking and Screaming but I credit that to writer Nicole Holefcener. It doesn’t even feel like Baumbach movie to me. GG is a turd and deserves NB. She’ll get the same treatment as JJL one of these days.

by Anonymousreply 3707/07/2018

Bravo, R36. Perfect definition.

by Anonymousreply 3807/07/2018

I'm team JJL. I've always thought she was one of our most underrated actresses. I actually love her in Georgia. I've known girls like that in real life and she really captured them well. She was also a great Sally Bowles in Cabaret on stage.

by Anonymousreply 3907/07/2018

I am not "anyone's team" but I only give my opinion about what I believe happens when people believe they have the right to make judgments towards others. Mrs. Gerwig would not like to be mentioned in the case of Jennifer Jason Leigh, it is probably the invention of the tabloids that she and Noah Baumbach began to leave when he was still with his then wife ... but there is doubt left. That yes, she says she will not work with Woody Allen again, without being sure that he has abused her daughter, and only believing a single part, when this man has not been condemned by a court of law. They realize? In the end in this industry all are very worthy, and very implacable with the mistakes of others. I do not defend neither Woody Allen, nor Jennifer Jason Leigh (although I appreciate her work) nor Greta Gerwig ... and what these people do not think is that life is so many twists that even Greta in a few years have to ask work to Woody Allen, or that she and Jennifer Jason Leigh have ended up working fair, would be a very dirty play of fate, but it could happen.

by Anonymousreply 4007/07/2018

I don’t know anything about her ex or his new gf but i love JJl and she looks fantastic for 55.

by Anonymousreply 4107/07/2018

Not sure about his taste in women but love his films. "Kicking and Screaming", "Margot...", "Squid...", I even like 'Mr. Jealousy" and, yes, bad as it is, "Highball". For those of us who only want to see movies about human beings that don't have superpowers, we need all the Baumbachs we can get.

by Anonymousreply 4207/07/2018

I liked GG in 20th Century Women. I don't think she's a star, but she worked in a supporting part. Also liked Ladybird. Jennifer JL, despite the occasional misfires, is a far more interesting actresses. GG was kind of annoying in Frances Ha.

I remember liking The Squid and the Whale, but I remember almost nothing about it--so the definition of "forgettable."

by Anonymousreply 4307/07/2018

I love JJL in Rush, a film that according to Jennifer herself was very hard to shoot because of her plot. In addition, its premiere was not as it was thought, it was successful, but it was overshadowed by the woman who left at that moment with her co star. Then, in 'white woman' she was very successful again, she did great.

by Anonymousreply 4407/07/2018

JJL is great. Greta is a big time feckless cunt.

by Anonymousreply 4507/07/2018

[quote]I loved Kicking and Screaming but I credit that to writer Nicole Holefcener.

She didn't write Kicking & Screaming. Walking & Talking, yes.

by Anonymousreply 4607/07/2018

Sorry, R40: what are you trying to say?

by Anonymousreply 4707/07/2018

It was the indie love triangle to end all love triangles!

They were the Brad, Jen, and Angie of independent cinema!

by Anonymousreply 4807/07/2018

reply 47I'm just making a comment. I do not pretend to accuse or defend anyone, but Mrs. Gerwig, who declared not long ago saying that I would never work with Woody Allen is a worthy woman, and if we pay attention to the tabloids she also has her dirty clothes, and I'm sure that if I mention Jennifer Jason Leigh to her, as well as her 'new boyfriend' would not be amused, not even a bit. She and Mr. Baumbach claim that this relationship began when he had already divorced when his relationship with Greta Gerwig began.

by Anonymousreply 4907/07/2018

Ladybird was like an after-school special with a very high caliber performance by Saoirse Ronan and some very boring appearances by Timothee Chalamet and Tracy Letts and a just-OK turn from Laurie Metcalf (she's been better elsewhere). Lois Smith did a nice job with her supportive nun bit, and her character makes a good point: for all her complaining, Ladybird loves Sacramento. I wasn't really rooting for her to get out of Sacramento or California; she just needed to get away from the penny-pinching, unappeasable mother. Ghost World (and God help us, even Juno) did a much better job in conveying what was at stake, character-wise. Most of Baumbach's movies have similar shortcomings: lots of whining, few pay-offs. He and GG deserve each other, though I will say that Frances Ha had some fun little set-pieces and GG somehow managed not to overkill with the twee.

Hoping to see a real Jennifer Jason Leigh renaissance culminating with a Geraldine Page-like sixtysomething Best Actress win.. Also , she made a decent directorial debut and it would be fun to see her play fillmmaker again.

by Anonymousreply 5007/07/2018

What R50 said.

by Anonymousreply 5107/07/2018

[quote]I liked GG in 20th Century Women.

I did like her in that, but everyone was good in that one, and Bening was marvelous.

I first saw Gerwig in Frances ha and I could not stand her in it. My god, the pretentiousness. (Also, Baumbach can't lick Leos Carax's feet.)

by Anonymousreply 5207/07/2018

I'm only 26 years old, but I'm learning. Thanks to my love for Jason Patric I discovered the cinema of the 80s and 90s, for me unbeatable. I know this is not the place to talk about Jason's movies but I want to do a couple of reviews if you allow me, Rush loved it, Narc was great (2001), Lost Boys very special for me .. and if you live in the United States and you can do with her I advise Denial, directed by Erin Dignam with Robin Wright and Rae Dawn Chong.

by Anonymousreply 5307/07/2018

Greta Gerwig is a small town phony who spent 15 years of her life trying to "become" an artist. A few years ago she was telling everyone who would listen that Woody Allen is her God and a religious figure for her.

Then she got asked the question after winning and didn't say anything, saying she hadn't had time to really think about it.

A media storm and a lot of criticism came her way right away and her team told her to come out and make the statement against Woody. It's so simple.

She's totally full of shit. Much like Kate Winslet.

by Anonymousreply 5407/07/2018

R54 Yes, It's total bullshit. For the record I have no clue what happened in that family and neither do they. If working with him was truly against their principles they would not have done it. I actually respect Scarlett Johansson for being honest and not keeling to the screechy twitter mob. I think the next time one of these actors is questioned about the whole thing they should say "I have no clue what happened. Neither do you. I'll work with who I want ".

by Anonymousreply 5507/07/2018

reply 55,I liked that comment that you have made and it seems to me a very great hypocrisy that now everyone is worthy, the worst thing is that the person who is not against Woody Allen now, as he dares to say that if he would work with him, they automatically a cross and they are capable of not hiring him anymore to work in that industry. Timothy Chalamet was forced to pronounce himself to such an extent that he wrote a letter saying that he would donate his money, according to him he asked for advice from none other than Greta Gerwig. I do not like Penelope Cruz, but I agree with her when she said in an interview that she supported the idea of ​​reopening the case against Woody Allen to be investigated, but it turns out that now Woody Allen's ex-wife does not want to, to be scared by the mess that has been organized, or are you afraid to be caught in a lie? I do not know, I ask, if I were in her place, I would be jumping on one leg knowing that they will open the case to prove that an abuser has raped my daughter. I do not know all this very strange.

by Anonymousreply 5607/07/2018

R56 Yes, you make very good points

by Anonymousreply 5707/07/2018

I've stayed away from baumbachs films. I know I'd find them very tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 5807/07/2018

Greta Gerwig got rammed down America’s throat during awards season for the VERY overrated “Ladybird”. She was being asked to weigh in on everything, much like DL fave Lens Dunham, and was equally obnoxious.

by Anonymousreply 5907/07/2018

Ladybirds Oscar heat deteriorated immediately after GG threw Allen under the bus and I don’t think it’s a coincidence. She was the strongest challenger to Get Out and more typical of Oscar favorites

by Anonymousreply 6007/07/2018

I do not believe that, actors like Scarlett Johansson was criticized for defending Woody Allen and many people now say they will not spend money on their films, Jennifer Jennifer Leigh herself said she would not work with him either. For my part, I repeat it again, a court of justice should investigate this case against the will of Mrs. Mia Farrow, and if it is found that he is a rapist put him behind bars, but if it is discovered that he is innocent to catch this Mrs. and her daughter and give them a good lesson. The 'Me Too' movement is helping many victims but it is also giving the green light to false accusations, and this should not be allowed. Justice yes, a witch hunt does not.

by Anonymousreply 6107/08/2018

Jennifer Jason Leigh won't work for Allen (as if he ever asked her) but she went and married the Xerox version? That turned out well.

by Anonymousreply 6207/08/2018

And why was not he going to ask? She is a great actress, very credible, which today unfortunately that is something that shines by its absence, in actors who are very predictable and act as if they were in a movie instead of real human behavior (wow, without realizing it I have repeated the same words of Jason Patric but how real they are) the actors of now are so predictable that they are not credible.

by Anonymousreply 6307/08/2018

He makes a film a year since 1972 or whatever and if he hasn't asked JJL: since she came onto the scene in 1983, he must not be a fan. I like her too but she's pretty much doing that "I quit" after being fired thing, turning down an offer that never came and probably never would.

by Anonymousreply 6407/08/2018

(May I also add that I hate that grandstanding bullshit in general. If you don't want to work with someone, just say no and move on. But this jumping on the popular bandwagon and denouncing Allen now that it is fashionable is revolting. I still have trouble forgiving Timothee Chalamet for being so stupid and doing it -- with a movie in the can waiting to be released. What a dick.)

by Anonymousreply 6507/08/2018

Let's suppose (and I know it's a lot to assume) Woody Allen's film opens and all the faces have to be seen on the red carpet, what face are they going to look at each other? Besides, it seems very suspicious to me that Allen's ex does not want the trial to be repeated, if you were a victim or your daughter, you would not want to lock up the culprit? And the auction, she says she does not want a circus and that's why she does not take him to trial, really? I am the only one who thinks that justice should ignore the wishes of this woman, investigate thoroughly, and that once we know what really happened? And the public also right to know, not in valde, the accusation itself has already been made public!

by Anonymousreply 6607/09/2018

Wasn't Jennifer Jason Leigh Woody Allen's first choice for Hannah in "Hannah in Her Sisters"?

by Anonymousreply 6707/10/2018

Oh dear typo..."Hannah and Her Sisters." NOT Hannah all up in her sisters!

by Anonymousreply 6807/10/2018

good points, R66, but if the alleged victim refuses to testify, there's no case. I would imagine that Dylan is very much led by her mother; if Mia doesn't want a trial, Dylan won't cooperate with prosecutors. This way they keep the story alive and damaging at no risk to themselves.

by Anonymousreply 6907/10/2018

That whole mumblecore, to-cool-to-live scene is anathema to me. Like, man...

by Anonymousreply 7007/10/2018

Baumbach and Gerwig are total fucking scummy whores.

by Anonymousreply 7107/10/2018

R69 Dylan's whole life seems to revolve around being a professional twitter victim. It must suck to be friends with her, she probably constantly mentions her supposed molestation. She is the millennial Lorna Luft.

by Anonymousreply 7207/10/2018

JJL was late teens/early 20s in 1983 in "Fast Times..." "Hannah..." was 1986. How could she play Woody's ex-wife with a gaggle of kids?

by Anonymousreply 7307/10/2018

"Jennifer Jason Leigh was considered for Hannah, but Woody Allen wanted a more experienced actress."

by Anonymousreply 7407/10/2018

Someone of the nrw era that I like a lot is Brit Marling.

by Anonymousreply 7507/10/2018

Hannah was written for Mia. Don't believe all that stuff about other actresses being considered. Maybe they were considered for the Barbara Hershey role but the other two sisters were written for Farrow and Diane Wiest. Back then Mia was always the lead in his films.

by Anonymousreply 7607/11/2018

I once researched the whole Woody/Mia scandal for a job I had. I read all the books, watched all the interviews. My conclusion was he probably had a strangely obsessive attachment to Dylan and obviously the Soon Ye thing was a lousy thing to do to Mia BUT the rape story seems very questionable.

When it supposedly happened he was already being watched and says to 60 Minutes that he was in a hostile household where all the staff was told to be on guard for him. The story is he somehow got Dylan alone in the attic (and yes see the Dory Previn song) pulled her away from all the other people in the house and raped her within a few minutes? He was like 55 years old at the time. The blood doesn't flow that quickly to the penis at that age.

My ultimate conclusion studying both Mia and Woody was this was a case of when crazy met crazy and it clicked for a while but then the crazy took over and they fell apart.

by Anonymousreply 7707/11/2018

I could see Jennifer Jason Leigh playing the bright student Juliette Lewis role in "Husbands and Wives" but nothing in "Hannah..." Hannah was not only a big actress who'd just done "A Doll's House" but also had come out of retirement.

by Anonymousreply 7807/11/2018

r78, Jennifer Jason Leigh would've been fun in that role. She was probably by that point perceived as too gritty, having played so many prostitute roles, though she turned down "Pretty Woman" in favor of "Last Exit to Brooklyn" and "Miami Blues."

by Anonymousreply 7907/11/2018

Or to morose, a word I used to hear associated with her a lot in the early days. A bit wan too. She, needless to say, turned that around along the way.

by Anonymousreply 8007/12/2018

"too" morose, what the hell is wrong with my keyboard.

by Anonymousreply 8107/12/2018

The Woody Allen trolls repeat themselves all the time. I was reading through this old thread and both old and new replies are nearly verbatim from the 1000 Woody-Mia threads we've had. The person who claims they did "research" on the case has been on DL for years saying the same thing.

It's psychotic. Why do people act like this?

by Anonymousreply 8207/12/2018

the Squid & the Whale conceit of having the boy claim credit for writing a well known Pink Floyd song he performs is false. In a sophisticated small town full of baby boomers, that song would be instantly identifiable and his scam wouldn't have been believed for a second.

by Anonymousreply 8307/12/2018

I felt the same way about the bizarre search for the elusive song in "Perks of Being a Wallflower" -- as if any boy whose favorite band (as presented) was the Smiths would not know Bowie and "Heroes" by the time he was age 10. It felt so out of touch that it ruined the whole movie for me.

by Anonymousreply 8407/12/2018

R77, if you did all this research, you'd know no one has ever claimed Woody Allen raped Dylen. The accusation is that he fondled her inappropriately.

by Anonymousreply 8507/12/2018

Not true r85. Dylan has changed her account of what happened

by Anonymousreply 8607/12/2018

What? Where is this revised account, r86?

by Anonymousreply 8707/13/2018

“Someone of the nrw era that I like a lot is Brit Marling.”

Like her though she has a tendency to be a bit too precious.

by Anonymousreply 8807/13/2018

I have always liked JJL in everything I have seen her in over the years. She is underrated and I am glad for her career resurgence.

by Anonymousreply 8907/13/2018

I will only say, and I keep in my news, if this man is guilty or not who should determine it is a court of justice, not the people of the street. I'm not saying it will not happen, but for me he is, and will always be innocent until proven otherwise. And if he is found guilty of what is being blamed, I hope that justice will be implacable with him, but I hope that justice will be just as implacable with this woman for all the suffering caused and that it will serve as an example for others who claim to falsely accuse of rape .. This is not a game, because of a revenge you can destroy a person's life for life. Let's not become villagers of the middle ages.

by Anonymousreply 9007/16/2018

Um, what?

by Anonymousreply 9107/16/2018

So, getting back to Greta Gerwig. I liked “Lady Bird”, but her schtick is thin.

by Anonymousreply 9207/16/2018

[quote]The Woody Allen trolls repeat themselves all the time. I was reading through this old thread and both old and new replies are nearly verbatim from the 1000 Woody-Mia threads we've had. The person who claims they did "research" on the case has been on DL for years saying the same thing.

Right and he spells Soon-Yi, Soon Ye.

I won't be hiring him to investigate anything for me anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 9307/16/2018

I thought Lady Bird was was overrated. And, one of GG's earlier films Frances Ha is a rip off of a 70's movie called Girlfriends starring the fab and frizzied Melanie Mayron. As far as acting goes, Greta does the same ditsy shit in every fucking movie. The one time she played it straight was Jackie where she pretty much faded into the background.

by Anonymousreply 9407/16/2018

[quote]And, one of GG's earlier films Frances Ha is a rip off of a 70's movie called Girlfriends starring the fab and frizzied Melanie Mayron.

I don't see the similarity at all. I don't know what you're talking about. Frances HA was as bad as its title.

by Anonymousreply 9507/16/2018

[quote]I thought Lady Bird was was overrated. And, one of GG's earlier films Frances Ha is a rip off of a 70's movie called Girlfriends starring the fab and frizzied Melanie Mayron. As far as acting goes, Greta does the same ditsy shit in every fucking movie. The one time she played it straight was Jackie where she pretty much faded into the background.

Greta's acting comes across as a millennial Diane Keaton character. Nothing new there, move on.

I wonder how half these new 'actresses' even have careers.

by Anonymousreply 9607/16/2018

What's worse is how she directed every actor in "Lady Bird' to act like her too and not just Ronan. It was too twee by half.

by Anonymousreply 9707/16/2018

I thought Ladybird was a truthful and accurate portrayal of a contemporary family but where did the Latino son come from? Laurie Metcalf or Tracy Lett's previous relationships? is it ever explained?

by Anonymousreply 9807/16/2018

Isn't it mentioned up front that he's adopted?

by Anonymousreply 9907/16/2018

“Lady Bird” is indie darling (and one-time mumblecore muse) Greta ... live modestly (unemployed dad Tracy Letts and adopted brother Jordan ...

by Anonymousreply 10007/16/2018

As opposed to "Peggy Sue Got Married" where WASP Kathleen Turner had a very dark ethnic looking Italian little sister (Sofia) sired by WASPs Barbara Harris and Don Murray. No explanation given except that she was the director's daughter (and not very good in this role either).

by Anonymousreply 10107/16/2018
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