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Why did WHO'S THE FUCKING BOSS run for eight goddamn years? It was terrible.

That's the one Embassy show I truly detest, then and now. For one thing, it wasn't funny, and when you consider the involvement of people who made [italic]All in the Family, Taxi, Soap[/italic], and [italic]WKRP in Cincinnati[/italic], which actually were funny and are rightly regarded among the all-time great sitcoms today. But this one, nope. It just fucking sucks. I've never heard anyone quote a funny line from it. It's actually worse than [italic]Hello, Larry[/italic] which at least had a good cast and a catchy theme. This show's stale, sanctimonious, and idiotic theme "song" drives me up the wall.

And Norman Lear basically had fuck all to do with it; the show he actually produced in 1984, [italic]aka Pablo[/italic], also aired on ABC in 1984 and flopped. But this shit just went on and on and on until ABC had finally had enough and put it up against an actually funny show called [italic]The Golden Girls[/italic] in order to put it out of its misery. Tony Danza was the worst cast member of [italic]Taxi[/italic], but if that show was like Mama's homemade plate of linguini and clams with olive oil and fresh garlic, this show was like a half-cooked can of Chef Boyardee spaghetti and meatballs. Judith Light is so cold she looks like she could make alcohol freeze. Alyssa Milano was no Valerie Bertinelli, and Danny Pintauro was one of the worst child actors of the decade if not of all time; [italic]As the World Turns[/italic] saw its best years only after he left for this mess. And what a deplorable waste of Katherine Helmond, who should have won an Emmy for [italic]Soap[/italic].

If it hadn't been in [italic]Happy Days[/italic]' old time slot, the show would have died in 13 weeks like it should have. It stunk from the get-go and it only got worse as Lear and Perenchio sold out to Coca-Cola, who broke it up, sold the movie and home video divisions and merged the TV division into Columbia Pictures Television before all of Coke's entertainment holdings became Sony. Who's the boss, indeed!

by Anonymousreply 79July 31, 2018 1:42 PM

OP, I'm sensing you don't like this show. It would help if you told us why.

by Anonymousreply 1September 15, 2017 5:19 PM

Alyssa Milano was 'jail bait' for an entire generation of men

by Anonymousreply 2September 15, 2017 5:20 PM

[quote] Alyssa Milano was 'jail bait' for an entire generation of men

Except the ones who were repeatedly cornholing Danny Pintauro and telling him "this never happened" when it was over.

by Anonymousreply 3September 15, 2017 5:25 PM

R2=frau

by Anonymousreply 4September 15, 2017 5:26 PM

It was escapism.

by Anonymousreply 5July 29, 2018 2:04 AM

Who's the Boss SUCKED! It was shockingly bad!

by Anonymousreply 6July 29, 2018 2:14 AM

Obviously the OP hated the '80s.

There were worse shows.

Judith Light and Katherine Helmond were terrific.

by Anonymousreply 7July 29, 2018 2:19 AM

Danny Pintauro was my favorite child actor turned bottom.

by Anonymousreply 8July 29, 2018 2:21 AM

It was pretty good and I could identify with the blonde guy, we didn't have that many American shows in Germany back then, it got much more with the advent of private television, which came around the time of Who, but still, they tended to take the better ones, we didn't get Soap and Happy Days and we never heard of Valerie Bertinelli, it has got with more to do than that back then at their time was just state television, they also never synchronized those shows for syndication; Tony Danza was very popular here, and the blonde guy, who could have needed a Northern family background, was a character not primitive, impatient, assholish and bratty like so many other child and youth characters in US television and movies, (not much better in other countries, especially outside state TV), also great that he graduated from Princeton in real life; or maybe Stanford or Yale.

by Anonymousreply 9July 29, 2018 2:48 AM

Because Two and a Half Men wasn't invented yet.

by Anonymousreply 10July 29, 2018 2:49 AM

I'll have you know those were eight years during which Danny Pintauro had blue balls looking at Tony Danza's hot body!

by Anonymousreply 11July 29, 2018 4:05 AM

You could ask the same question about Growing Pains, Full House, and many other terrible 80’s “family shows”that we’re excruciatingly terrible. I would hate watch them sometimes just to try to understand their popularity.

by Anonymousreply 12July 29, 2018 4:11 AM

I wanted their living room.

by Anonymousreply 13July 29, 2018 4:26 AM

I never got the high ratings. It was an average show, nothing to justify it being in the top ten ever.

by Anonymousreply 14July 29, 2018 6:39 AM

Eh oh. Oh eh.

by Anonymousreply 15July 29, 2018 7:01 AM

Tony Danza and Judith Light had terrific chemistry. The show was smart not to pair them together right away (like Moonlighting) so the anticipation of Tony and Angela getting together kept viewers vested in the show. By the time they did get together, the show was on its last legs.

by Anonymousreply 16July 29, 2018 7:05 AM

I didn't care for it and never watched it, but I wouldn't rant about it 26 years after the series ended. Take your meds.

by Anonymousreply 17July 29, 2018 7:31 AM

The premise was rather hilariously offensive to Italian-Americans. Tony needed to get himself and his daughter out of the poor dead-end, Brooklyn wherever ghetto they were living, so the only answer? To be a male nanny to Judith Light in WASPy Connecticut.

by Anonymousreply 18July 29, 2018 7:35 AM

One of the last times class was acknowledged on TV. Now all white people are portrayed as "privileged".

by Anonymousreply 19July 29, 2018 7:41 AM

Was it as bad as "Charles in Charge"?

by Anonymousreply 20July 29, 2018 7:42 AM

"Charles in Charge" was almost as bad, R20. Apparently in the 80s there was an epidemic of young Italian-American men becoming male nannies and housekeepers for WASP families.

by Anonymousreply 21July 29, 2018 7:44 AM

I always thought Alyssa Milano was a bit too fat to deserve the teen-bombshell status she enjoyed.

by Anonymousreply 22July 29, 2018 8:08 AM

OP = Tony Micelli’s Dead Wife

by Anonymousreply 23July 29, 2018 8:57 AM

It was on for 8 years because...

"The show received positive reviews throughout most of its run, becoming one of the most popular sitcoms of the mid-to-late 1980s. The series was nominated for more than forty awards, including ten Primetime Emmy Award and five Golden Globe Award nominations, winning one of each. Also very successful in the ratings, Who's the Boss? consistently ranked in the top ten in the final primetime ratings between the years of 1985 and 1989, and has since continued in syndication worldwide."

Wikipedia

by Anonymousreply 24July 29, 2018 9:07 AM

R19 that’s true actually. R20 no it wasn’t. Not even close. It wasn’t a bad show, really. A lot of the other ABC comedies of the time were way worse.

I know Tony Danza has no talent but he was perfect for this. He was very likeable and I totally get his popularity (in this, not Taxi). Judith light - I know she’s a very “trained” actress and is very acclaimed as of late (a friend of mine actually works closely with her), but she was not made for sitcoms, let’s put it that way. She never managed to make herself terribly likeable in the role (and the idea that she was playing a WASP is kind of funny, too).

I had no problem with the show - it surely wasn’t great but not everything is. Like someone said, I’m glad they saved the Tony Angela get together for the end. It did run too long though.

by Anonymousreply 25July 29, 2018 10:03 AM

Katherine Helmond's Voice & tits, Tony's balls&ass, and a budding Allysa Milano: that's perv juice for three different mouth-breathing demographics!

by Anonymousreply 26July 29, 2018 10:23 AM

Don't forget me R26!

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by Anonymousreply 27July 29, 2018 1:52 PM

It was a frau fantasy for the 80s, and that's why it survived.

Remember, this was the era of WORKING GIRL, MR. MOM, etc.

by Anonymousreply 28July 29, 2018 2:08 PM

I was very disappointed that they didn't get married at the end, I'd been watching for years and I felt betrayed that it went back to the beginning, like a big loop.

I met the producer some years later in Key West and I asked him about it, expressing my thoughts, and he stated that it was done like that for syndication, so that it didn't climax but went on and on, but I told him I thought that was a poor choice and never watched the reruns, knowing that it all lead nowhere...

by Anonymousreply 29July 29, 2018 2:13 PM

R29, Mary!

by Anonymousreply 30July 29, 2018 2:14 PM

Mr. Belvedere >> Who's The Boss >> Charles In Charge

It wasn't a great or memorable show, but the cast was likable enough & there are plenty of other garbage shows that stay on the air forever. Why get so upset about a 30-year-old sitcom? Did ABC reject your pilot?

by Anonymousreply 31July 29, 2018 2:59 PM

I agree R17. The only reason I watched the show was to check out Tony Danza's ass. Cute.

by Anonymousreply 32July 29, 2018 3:02 PM

I loved it when I was a kid, and sing along happily to the theme song whenever it pops up on tv these days - Mona was fabulous.

by Anonymousreply 33July 29, 2018 3:16 PM

When you're naming bad sitcoms of the 80s and 90s, don't forget Gimme A Break!

by Anonymousreply 34July 29, 2018 3:30 PM

Tony Danza took off all Of his clothes

by Anonymousreply 35July 29, 2018 3:30 PM

As soon as it became evident that Danny was queer, his part was drastically reduced to one or two lines per show. If they could have done it, the producers would probably have killed him off.

by Anonymousreply 36July 29, 2018 3:48 PM

He didn't know how good he had it.

by Anonymousreply 37July 29, 2018 4:00 PM

Judith Light carried that show on her padded shoulders.

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by Anonymousreply 38July 29, 2018 4:18 PM

How did the theme song go?

by Anonymousreply 39July 29, 2018 5:38 PM
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by Anonymousreply 40July 29, 2018 5:39 PM

R36 you noticed that too? Poor kid. Once the darling of the airwaves and a stupendous career ahead of him, then puberty hit and watching him moon over girls became painful to watch. The producers must have been pissed, hoping he'd be their Joey Lawrence.

by Anonymousreply 41July 29, 2018 7:03 PM

The only sitcom I know of that had a cameo by Sinatra

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by Anonymousreply 42July 29, 2018 7:15 PM

Judith Light was so awful and unlikeable as that woman who was after Steven Keaton. How the fuck did they give her a sitcom after that?

by Anonymousreply 43July 29, 2018 10:31 PM

[quote] The only reason I watched the show was to check out Tony Danza's ass.

I shot more than one load to the clip of him in the shower during the show opening.

by Anonymousreply 44July 29, 2018 11:28 PM

I've been on WHO'S THE BOSS! too!

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by Anonymousreply 45July 30, 2018 12:34 AM

I wouldn't watch that show. I never cared for Judith Light until she was on SVU, I thought she was sensational.

by Anonymousreply 46July 30, 2018 12:52 AM
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by Anonymousreply 47July 30, 2018 1:28 AM

Two words: Katherine Helmond. Just like Christopher Hewett was the reason why Mr. Belvedere lasted so long.

by Anonymousreply 48July 30, 2018 1:46 AM

And Danza was afraid to take take off his shirt to goose the ratings with women viewers

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by Anonymousreply 49July 30, 2018 1:51 AM

I remember there was a boxing episode and Mona wore a bikini in the ring carrying a numbered sign for the corresponding round.

All the guys were getting hot and bothered and Jonathan says, "that's my gramma," and a guy responds, "that's my fantasy."

I wondered if Mona & Jonathan had a Sebastian Venable/Violet type relationship after that.

by Anonymousreply 50July 30, 2018 2:09 AM

[italic] Who's the Fucking Boss[/italic] was so profane it could only be shown on the Playboy Channel. It starred Susie Essen as Angela and Gordon Ramsay as Tony, and was written by David Mamet.

by Anonymousreply 51July 30, 2018 2:17 AM

Tiny Dancer, I mean Tony Danza, looks like Pepe the Frog.0

by Anonymousreply 52July 30, 2018 2:22 AM

Did they make a gay porn version , Who's Fucking the Boss with a gay Tony lookalike?

by Anonymousreply 53July 30, 2018 2:25 AM

I loved when we got a shot of the hair on Tony's lower back. I loved it when he was shirtless.

by Anonymousreply 54July 30, 2018 2:27 AM

I watched it as a kid to jerk off to that split second shirtless shot of Tony in the opening credits. (I was very young.)

I always wondered what the hell was up with the situation though. My mom and I used to marvel at how atrocious Angela’s hair dye job was with the black roots and the fried, electrified strands. And she basically came off as a young version of Dorothy Zborbak. Why was this gorgeous guy into this lanky homely lady?

I was SHOCKED when I learned years later that she is a respected stage actress and a beloved supporter of LGBT rights. I met her once around 2006. She was lovely and very attractive.

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by Anonymousreply 55July 30, 2018 2:31 AM

Tony was a hot piece of ass who played dumb and lovable rather well. Katherine Helmond was a hoot.

by Anonymousreply 56July 30, 2018 2:44 AM

[quote]I loved when we got a shot of the hair on Tony's lower back.

Ugh, that was a boner killer for me. He was so hot and pretty hairless otherwise. Weird to have that patch.

by Anonymousreply 57July 30, 2018 3:28 AM

“Who’s the Boss’ll be back in a moment. Stick around.”

by Anonymousreply 58July 30, 2018 10:18 AM

The show was lightweight but the leads had good chemistry.

It was still much better than other shows like Full House which required you have a lobotomy to bear watching.

by Anonymousreply 59July 30, 2018 11:15 AM

I hope they do a reboot and Judith Light comes back for it.

by Anonymousreply 60July 30, 2018 12:08 PM

I think it was a show for kids and they watched it.

by Anonymousreply 61July 30, 2018 12:44 PM

Who WAS the Boss?

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by Anonymousreply 62July 30, 2018 12:54 PM

Who's The Boss Reunion

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by Anonymousreply 63July 30, 2018 5:59 PM

Watching the reruns as a kid if bothered me how fake the backgrounds always looked whenever they opened the front door they didn’t even try lol

by Anonymousreply 64July 30, 2018 7:36 PM

Wow, check this out. Judith recalls the final scene of the show.

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by Anonymousreply 65July 30, 2018 7:54 PM

That’s very dramatic, R65. You’d think she was talking about playing Ophelia or something.

by Anonymousreply 66July 30, 2018 10:02 PM

LOL, R66. I thought the ending was clever. Not St Elsewhere or Newhart clever, but still pretty clever. Like most 80s shows, it was fluff, often with a subliminal lesson if the episode was centered around either of the kids. But I liked it. The casting was great.

Since Tony and Angela didn't marry, there was no shark-jump baby, but the characters did adopt a young kid. I remember the tabloid stories about how Danza had allegedly been really mean to the little kid. I don't remember why.

In remember a "Behind the Music" type documentary where Pintauro was obviously still a little annoyed that the writers didn't give his character much to do after he hit age 13 or so. (It had to be especially rough for him after watching Milano get world famous.) It seems that the producers recognized that he was gay before Pintauro realized it himself.

However, he shouldn't feel too bad. Over on Growing Pains, the show obviously didn't think that straight teen male Jeremy Miller was hot enough to attract teen girl viewers, so they hired Leonard DiCaprio for that purpose. Growing Pains jumped two sharks: new baby and adopted teenager.

by Anonymousreply 67July 30, 2018 10:38 PM

If I wrote for television, the opening scene of my pilot would be a literal shark-jumping baby.

by Anonymousreply 68July 30, 2018 10:42 PM

It's funny that r55 mentions Light's hair on the show when one of the best scenes of the show had Angela babysitting a little girl who points out that Angela's hair "is black at the bottom".

by Anonymousreply 69July 31, 2018 12:25 AM

Doesn’t take a genius to see it, R69.

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by Anonymousreply 70July 31, 2018 12:28 AM

Re r66, I'm sure once they were informed how the show would end, and got their scripts, etc, and finally shot it, it was very moving for the cast... BUT it was the wrong way to end it, and it made the previous 195 episodes fairly pointless.

by Anonymousreply 71July 31, 2018 5:32 AM

Pintauro could have had a huge career like Milano.

But instead of sucking producer cock like her, he chose anonymous cock.

That never pays well in the end.

by Anonymousreply 72July 31, 2018 5:57 AM

I barely remember an episode with Lee Ving in it playing a biker.

by Anonymousreply 73July 31, 2018 6:04 AM

Pardon me?

by Anonymousreply 74July 31, 2018 6:15 AM

I never like Catherine Helmond’s mayonnaise.

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by Anonymousreply 75July 31, 2018 11:12 AM

It was porn for the housefrauen.

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by Anonymousreply 76July 31, 2018 11:36 AM

Whoever posted that Judith Light's character was essentially a younger Dorothy Zbornak, was so right on, I never thought about it, but it's totally true.

Also, wasn't Light's hairstyle considered 'frosted'? That seemed to be a thing back in the day...

by Anonymousreply 77July 31, 2018 11:41 AM

Twas I, R77. That’s how I always saw Angela. And yes, my aunt had frosted hair during that era, but it was ash blonde and I don’t think the roots were jet black.

by Anonymousreply 78July 31, 2018 11:48 AM

The final scene was an homage to the first scene, but it was not exactly like nothing had happened. He came back with the intent of rekindling their romantic relationship, not to be the maid in a platonic set-up.

I think Judith is attractive and her hair improved towards the end, but it was a mystery of what they were going for for much of the run.

I always thought it was odd they married Samantha off so young.

I do remember being disappointed when Danza started wearing the looser fit jeans that were coming into style.

by Anonymousreply 79July 31, 2018 1:42 PM
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