Bad Gay Movies

"Ben and Arthur" - written, directed, produced, edited, scored by and starring Sam Mraovich. THREAD CLOSED!

I liked the first 'Eating Out" ; the others, not so much.

You have to watch Ben & Arthur on Youtube. And make sure to turn the captions on - they're a hoot.

So many of then, but here are a couple that I stopped watching partway through:

ADAM AND STEVE (Malcolm Gets and Craig Chester)

SUCH GOOD PEOPLE (Michael Urie and Randy Harrison)

There's a director named Casper Andreeson (sp?) who makes some of the worst gay themed movies. Stuff that makes Lifetime movies look like high art.

Read an interview with him and he really thinks he's making art house films, talks about "the gay cinema" and shit like that.

IIRC, he is responsible for Such Good People, the movie that R4 called out.

There's a whole list here - their podcast is ok too (72 episodes so far).

R5 are you thinking of Casper Andreas, he did "Going Down In La La Land" and others that look similar, "Slutty Summer" etc (but not Such Good People).

Thank you, R4. There was this really awful gay movie I saw about 10 years ago but couldn't remember the name. Adam and Steve, that was it! lol

My then BF and I fell for a rave review in The NY Times and paid money to see a movie called Boy Culture.

We paid money! Actual money to endure that shit.

Rob Williams also makes some horrendous pieces of shit like Three Day Weekend and Make the Yuletide Gay.

There's also the execrable JC Calciano, responsible for e-cupid, 10-Year Plan and Is It Just Me.

Anything Q Allan Brocka does should be avoided at all costs.

Those three along with Casper Andreas were the cause of the death of gay cinema. For every "Weekend" we get, thirty of these pieces of garbage pop up.

As much as I strongly dislike the obvious generic, sophomoric Rom-com crap that is 95% of American gay cinema, it's pretentious, overreaching, humorless claptrap like Go Fish and The Reception I find 10 times worse.

Yes R6, that's the guy, Caper Andreas.

I mean FFS-- "Slutty Summer" and dude is talking in the interview like he's some sort of gay Scorcese who just can't score financing because homophobia.

I googled and it seems that the writer of Such Good People worked with Andreas on another one of his masterpieces.

Is there any money to be made on these straight to Amazon movies? I guess enough gay guys unwittingly rent them.

Anything by Todd (Bareback) Verow!

"Dawson's 51-Load Weekend."

Sequels always suck.

Private Romeo. Awful, awful film. Using Shakespeare to tell a gay love story could work, but this cast was cast based on looks alone and has little to no grasp of the language, so they set it in a military school. And then at the end one of them screeches out "You Made Me Love You" out of tune. It's the kind of movie that seems designed to make you embarrassed to be gay.

Butch Camp

2001's '10 Attitudes'.

Painful, horrible, full of every gay cliché possible.

Everyone in the film had the cocaine sweats, including Sean Kanan and Bud Bundy.

The awful female friends in the movie... disgusting.

2001's 'All Over The Guy' with hotter-than-Ryan-Reynolds Richard Ruccolo as an alcoholic gay man.

Again, very painful and horrible.

2004's 'The 24th Day' with Sex Gods Scott Speedman and James Marsden acting out why gay hookups are evil especially when it leads to spreading HIV to your wife who dies of AIDS.

Most are just awful. Low budget and low on talent.

After watching some, I always wonder that gays being artistic must be a complete myth

2003's 'Latter Days' which is the obvious inspiration for Mormon Boyz.

Pretty much anything where the crdits bear any of the following words: The Asylum, Matt Riddlehoover, Ariztical Entertainment.

LIE DOWN WITH DOGS.

The Asylum makes gay movies?

I've only seen their horror movies.

BTW, is Jeff Denton gay?

Jeff Denton is so hot!

David DeCoteau hasn't been mentioned. Does he get a pass? If so, why?

R25, because his films are basically softcore porn.

The whole 1313 series by David DeCoteau - I don't think they are "officially" gay movies but bad plots and obviously homo-erotic scenes with lots of shirtless and underwear scenes, seems many of them shot in the same huge modern mansion setting. One or two older female characters so it's not too gay. Used to be on Netflix but they apparently upped their standards.

Great minds think alike R25

R23 The Asylum made the Eating Out series.

Top Gun.

Judas Kiss, some weird time travel/re-incarnation story with master thespians Brent Corrigan and Charlie David.

When film making went digital and became cheap in the early 00s there was an onslaught of terrible, terrible gay dramas. I tried to watch a few but was so put off by the low quality that I practically stopped watching gay movies altogether. I remember when Weekend was released and it was like a breath of fresh air. A well-made gay film by a director with a vision.

[quote] My then BF and I fell for a rave review in The NY Times and paid money to see a movie called Boy Culture.

Boy Culture is actually one of the better cheapo films out there. Unlike many others it's actually quite sweet. But you obviously can't go in expecting a Brokeback Mountain. Get over the fact the production values are pretty much terrible and just enjoy the story and those pretty boys.

Funnily enough many of the films mentioned here are the ones I've enjoyed myself to a point. [bold]Private Romeo[/bold] is, well, you have to sort of watch it like a musical. There's more to it than just the eye candy. [bold]All Over the Guy[/bold]... I really loved this at one point of my life and that was mostly because of Richard Ruccolo whose messed up butch gay man was basically my dream man. I usually had a few drinks while watching it which is probably the reason I didn't notice the almost total lack of chemistry between Dan Bucatinsky and Ruccolo. The film would be way better had Bucatinsky allowed someone else to play his role. [bold]The 24th Day[/bold] is not that bad either. Sure it's more like a play but the film is intense in many ways. And come on, who doesn't enjoy the idea of Scott Speedman and James Marsden getting it on? [bold]Latter Days[/bold] has a big cult following, and it's usually at the top of every Best Gay Films list. It's clumsy but there's some true effort behind it. And the heartbreak you see feels very real.

Gay films used to be more like sort-of-well-made indies before the digital film making arrived. Even with a limited budget the stories were somewhat well thought out. Films like [bold]The Trip, Leaving Metropolis, Red Dirt, Urbania, Speedway Junky, Heights, Loggerheads, A River Made to Drown In[/bold] and [bold]Shelter[/bold] were not perfect but they were awesome in some ways. Especially Shelter which seems to be at the top of Best Gay Films list with BBM and Latter Days a year after year.

Around 10-14 years ago I was a member at a gay torrent site (which also had an awesome forum). I downloaded tons and tons of gay films. It was like finding a candy store where everything was free. I just went through the indexes of the dozens of dvds I burnt at the time and saw loads of films I really don't remember much about. I assume they were mostly garbage. While going through the dvd list I found this cover I made for 2 dvds I burnt for a friend. BTW, I have bought quite a few gay films as well so it's not like I've stolen everything.

P.S. Your Cat Is Dead! is my entry to the list. I honestly don't understand what they were trying to say about homosexuality. Plus the movie in general was just boring and unmemorable. I didn't think about it until just now reading this thread and wondering "What was that strange movie with the burglar tied to the sink?" One google search later and here I am.

Go Fish was the absolute worst. And lesbians I know claim it's one of their favorite moves (along with Bound). It's almost like it's required to like it if you want your lesbian card.

Anything made by Travis Mathews.

David DeCoteau has been mentioned here, but he bears mentioning again. Has anyone here seen "Speed Demon," "Leeches," "The Brotherhood," "Wolves of Wall Street," etc.? Absolute garbage, pandering for gay viewers but not wanting to "really" be gay movies.

There's also a crime move called "Hard" about a serial killer in L.A. that is pretty awful. Two pretty hot sex scenes, but the acting is abysmal.

Impossible Choice should be nominated for worst gay movie. I saw it free on Amazon. The acting was so bad. The story was just as bad.

R33, "P.S. Your Cat is Dead" is one of the oddest movies I've ever seen. I know it's based on a play that Sal Mineo was involved in in the 70s. Straight man (Steve Guttenberg) holds gay burglar hostage and ties him up over the sink with the ass ripped out of his jeans. Then some friends of the "straight guy" (led no other than premier '90s sleazebag/"journalist" A.J. Benza) visit and decide they want to rape their straight friend and the burglar saves him from their attack? Just so bizarre on so many levels. I think Steve Guttenberg was trying to test the waters of coming out with this movie, but it was too weird and obscure to catch on. I mean, does anyone who STARRED in "Can't Stop the Music" really need to come out? Didn't Bruce Jenner have a major role in that movie, too?

Piccadilly Pickups (2000) with the late Alexis Arquette. Saw it at a gay film festival and the audience started walking out within the first 10 - 15 minutes. Friends and I stayed to see how bad it could possibly be, but by about 25 minutes in, half of the audience was gone and so were we. Walking to the car, we heard other people talking about this REALLY bad movie they had seen and one of us asked "Piccadilly Pickups?" and the other people responded, "Oh, god..." It was the talk of the rest of the film festival and not in a good way.

[quote]Private Romeo is, well, you have to sort of watch it like a musical.

Then why don't I just watch a musical?

All of them?

Ten Year Plan and eCupid are like someone took those shitty female-written gay romance novels on Amazon and made them into a film.

This is where Rob Marshall would be if not for his marriage to Michael DeLuca, the Herb Allen, Jr. to his Ann Reinking.

Jenny’s Wedding

The Object of My Affection (1998)

Another Gay Movie: Gays Gone Wild! (2008)

Gigli

Bear City - the film where the twink realises he's into bears and goes after the most unlikeable, most unbear-like guy in the film!

I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry

That was unforgivable, R50, considering one of [italic]The Golden Girls[/italic]' writers was behind it.

The Family Stone

Cruising (1980)

Rent

Lost and Delirious

R53: I'll never understand how William Friedkin managed to make a great gay film and then a lousy one a decade later.

Are Cruising and Bruno that bad? Nevr watched them

WEEKEND. Unbelievably boring in the way only the Brits excel at.

Boy culture should be called Portrait Of A Narcissist.

A steaming pile of shit called "Hey, Happy!"

I Want Your Love...Dirty hipsters having real bareback sex.

Yes r20. It is embarrassing that the gay community tries to pretend "Latter Days" is some great movie, it is not.

The last Casper Andreas movie I watched was "Kiss Me Kill Me" and it was terrible. His prior one I saw "Going down in la-land" was a decent watch.

R62, Latter Days is not exactly a favorite but I most certainly do get why people love it so much. Even if as a whole the movie is clumsy some parts and the story at its core still are quite touching. There's no denying that the goat farmer really is the heart and soul of the film. I never quite bought the guy playing the gay slag, and I didn't really think those had too much chemistry but there's still something there. The film works because it's a believable enough portrayal of a gay man being ostracized by his family and the community. Obviously many gay people can relate.

BTW, R62, what do you think of Shelter, which seems to be hugely loved by the gay community as well? I love it myself as well, and sometimes when I'm feeling a bit down I put it on. I just noticed RogerEbert.com gave it only 2 stars. Roger Ebert himself gave Latter Days 2.5 stars.

Top Gun

A movie called "Romeo & Romeo" that I found on a torrent site is pretty bad. The lead is a bearded guy with a mop of blond hair, playing a washed up rock star who is an ex-druggy drunk mess who yells at everyone. His character was so abrasive and hateful that I could not take it. Plus, his acting was so bad because this guy did not put any nuance into the character, just angerbitteranger. I bailed after 15 minutes.

^^^ Forgot to add about Romeo & Romeo: the star is also the writer and the director. This guy took on too much and seems to have put the least effort into the acting.

I like Casper Andreas and Rob Marshall movies. Also some of the Eating Out movies (I think the first three are pretty decent with the second one being the best).

For me the worst was Another Gay Movie: The Sequel / Boys Gone Wild with that odious Perez Hilton.

The Great Gatsby

[quote]what do you think of Shelter, which seems to be hugely loved by the gay community as well?

Shelter is far superior to Latter Days. A technically better movie on every front and much more emotionally moving movie. I completely get the popularity of that movie.

Does Jeepers Creeper 2 count?

Cruising

Irréversible

The Day of the Locusts

I doubt anyone has heard of Skull & Bones but you need to see it to believe how truly awful it is. The trailer really only hints at its levels of pure amateurishness. As r21 mentioned, it's from Ariztical Entertainment which I now know to avoid in the future.

Geography Club

Why Cruising??? Wasn't it released in the 80s. An absolute masterpiece and pretty risqué for the times

OP, you should've asked for gay movies which [italic]aren't[/italic] terrible, horrible, abysmal movies. That list would be so much smaller.

A Day in Datalounge

"My then BF and I fell for a rave review in The NY Times and paid money to see a movie called Boy Culture."

I remember that movie. It was the black guy who played Noah on Noah's Arc and a white guy who had a sugar daddy or something. There's more to it. It was pretty bad, though I didn't think it was absolutely awful, and it's by far not the worst gay movie I've ever seen.

Brokeback Mountain

Did anyone ever see a terrible Brit movie called, I think, Clapham Junction? Just horrific in every way possible, but the worst (best) part is that every time a gay man is going to be attacked by rowdies, he careens off the main streets and skips off to the woods ... to provide cover for the bashers??? Just weird all around.

CLAPHAM JUNCTION is one of those British gay films that tries to have it multiple ways, and generally makes gay life seem depressing. But I will say that the seduction of the older man by the young twink (played by one of the Treadaway twins) was really hot.

Strongly agree about Cruising. It's an obnoxious movie period.

Lie Down with Dogs and Make the Yuletide Gay are just bad films - poorly written & cheesily made. I would add I Think I Do to that list as well as (maybe especially add) Kiss Me Guido.

If I can add a lesbian film to the list, it would be 1980's Windows, as repellent as Cruising. It's interesting they both came out around the same time.

Some of you haven't seen nearly enough bad gay movies.

Steel 2015

Truth 2013 starring everyone's favorite pr0n whore (h0r?)

Date and Switch 2014 just for having the main mo fuck a chick for no apparent reason

TESTOSTERONE with David Sutcliffe and Antonio Sabato, Jr. Really bad stuff.

Tiger Orange. Dear god, that was shite.

I just thought of a really terrible lesbian film- Chutney Popcorn. The writer/director (an Indian lesbian) also starred in it. That she's gone on to have any sort of career since is a testament to Affirmative Action-like practices.

Some horrible piece of shit called Zero Tolerance or something like that. It was a musical about AIDS featuring Richard Burton--the 19th century British explorer, not the actor. Watching it made me feel like I was extremely stoned, or the filmmakers were.

R73 Never saw the movie but I remember after its release the director of the film would argue with critics who reviewed his movie unfavorably in the comment section. He would allege that the only people who did not enjoy it were homophobic or had weak minds. It was interesting to google his name and read the back-and-forth on various blogs. Don't know if any of them are still up though.

There were actually quite a few of gay-horror movies back then. It was marketed as progressive having gays be the killer instead of victims.

R88 you're thinking of Zero Patience (1993) - the title refers to one of the characters being the flight attendant who was thought to be the first person to bring the virus to North America aka patient zero. I vaguely remember seeing it years ago, it's a strange one.

[quote] There were actually quite a few of gay-horror movies back then. It was marketed as progressive having gays be the killer instead of victims.

How? That just trades one stereotype: gays as helpless, passive, and essentially useless in a fight; for another: gays as out of control psycho killers.

Again, 90% of gay movies totally suck. Are there any good ones? At all? Ever?

It's just one of those things, R91. Like how women showing their breast on film was supposed to be liberating but now so many female characters are oversexualized and are just there to play out a man's fantasy.

I think it just comes down to people making the movie they want then attaching it to a movement to circumvent any controversy they might receive. Which is now why we are getting the "His sexuality doesn't matter." subtext with biopics of gay historic figures.

How the hell can this crap get funding when John Waters has to rely on speeches, books and TV cameos in order to afford to live?

12 Angry Men

R92 Blackbird wasn't excellent, Oscar-worthy but it wasn't bad either. Middle-ground maybe?

Defying Gravity - was the biggest turd ever shat. Dreary and angst filled. The lead actor was kinda cute, but couldn't act his way out of Kindergarten Xmas play.

I agree with R58. Weekend was a British suckfest. And not in that good, hard, uncut blood sausage way. More mash than bangers. Zzzzzzz.

I watched that Casper Andreas movie "La La Land" thinking it would be a gay version of a bad Lifetime movie.

It made bad Lifetime movies look like Truffaut.

Last I checked he was begging for money on Kickstarter so I guess I was not the only one with that opinion.

70% of gay movies

I had never seen "Loggerheads" before I read this thread, but that is good, except for the "North Carolina travelogue" aspect. The North Carolina bigotry aspect is right on target, though. And it's a sad but at the same time upliting movie.

There definitely must be a market for these cheap, Lifetime quality gay movies, so many of them get made. In general, when I'm perusing Netflix or some other service, I skip over "gay cinema" because it's mostly the same shitty stuff made for straight people, but with gay characters.

And now Netflix makes them hard to find. They also got rid of the musicals section, too.

I've worked/mingled with a lot of names mentioned here. By far, my least favorite of the "gay filmmakers" is Rob Williams. With the exception of Make the Yuletide Gay, which has a certain sweetness and an amazing appearance by Alison Arngrim, his movies are absolute garbage. But the thing that makes him stand out is his rants on social media about how not supporting his films hurts the gay community. Just because your movie is gay-themed doesn't mean it's good or worthwhile. Lack of funds for production value is no excuse for a bad script. You don't get into Outfest because your movies suck.

Revry is a scam and Ariztical Entertainment has Stage 4 cancer (metaphorically speaking)

[quote]With the exception of Make the Yuletide Gay, which has a certain sweetness and an amazing appearance by Alison Arngrim

I know Make the Yuletide Gay is not a good movie, per say, but the cast is on the whole really appealing, and that forgives a lot.

Broken Hearts Club

Exactly R105. A movie doesn't have to be "good" to have a charm or appeal.

Sadly, Yuletide is the only "charming" film Rob has ever made, though he thinks they're all masterpieces. And his endless rants about "supporting gay filmmakers" are nausea-inducing.

R31 I saw that film, it was bizarre. Especially the cast musical number at the very end. Richard Harmon who played the younger version of the lead is hot in a kinda weird way. The Asian girl who played his best friend was kinda ugly.

The Brotherhood series sucks.

R94 Another reason John Waters can't get a film made today is because of the whole PC/SJW/Snowflake movement which barely existed when A Dirty Shame came out.

Thanks R108. Back to Breitbart with you

I don't see a lot of movies.

That said, I enjoyed Kiss Me Kill Me. It worked as a whodunit. The guys were sexy, and the plot kept moving. The production values seemed high. And I enjoyed the ending. I'd give it a B.

Is the rest of Casper Andreas' stuff similar to KMKM, or was that the best film he's made?

I've seen most of his stuff R110 and I thought KMKM was his worst. Your mileage may vary.

If you turn your brain off and just enjoy the charm, I recommend Big Gay Musical, Violet Tendencies and Going Down in La La Land.

"Relax... It's Just Sex" (1998)

The plot involves the protagonist getting gaybashed, and then dealing with gaybashert by raping him (which we get to see on screen).

The bizarre ethical implications of the rape plot twist are dealt with as if all that really matters is that raping his basher makes the protagonist even more sad, and so he has to be alone for a while. And all his friends feel sad for him.

I don’t think anyone’s mentioned a mess called The Mulligans, another Charlie David disappointment. He goes home with a college friend only to mutually fall in love with his best friend’s dad. Cute guys can’t save this turkey.

[quote]I don’t think anyone’s mentioned a mess called The Mulligans, another Charlie David disappointment. He goes home with a college friend only to mutually fall in love with his best friend’s dad. Cute guys can’t save this turkey.

And ol' Charlie and dad look to be about the same age.

Yes, r112, that plot twist was so out of left field. The first two-thirds of the movie had been lighthearted, almost "Friends"-like then it turned into a horrifying movie of the week. For some reason I thought the movie was based on a play. Maybe the tone shift worked better on stage.

Yeah, the problem with Mulligans R113 is definitely Charlie looks way too old and the dad looks too young. It's not a TERRIBLE film, but you spend the entire time watching it going...this guy is a college student? YEAH OK

[quote]I've seen most of his stuff [R110] and I thought KMKM was his worst. Your mileage may vary.

Worse than the one about the French guy and his boyfriend in New York? Where everyone involved is an absolutely miserable human being?

R21, god yes, virtually everything released by Artiztical = shit film

R32 we must share a brain, because i agree! I can recognize (and have endured many) a shitty glbt film. But, the "not so bad" films for me include: boy culture All over the guy private romeo

24th day is shit, though, lol--don't care how pretty marsden is! Go see him in Heights if you want to see him in play gay (or bi?) in a decent film.

R61 i think the first "original" I Want Your Love was the least terrible (there's the remake of that and then a sequel/pt 2, i think, that are pretty cringey)

Some lesbian 'big chill' type film from the late 1990s - can't remember the name of it.

The most recent bad gay film was Disobedience. Ghastly boring nonsense.

I'd forgotten about Lie Down with Dogs. I watched it eons ago only to discover that one of my college friends had a small (not very good) part in it but somehow had managed to keep his name off the credits and out of IMDB. Guess he knew it was a bomb from the start.

This piece of shit is so bad, even TLA didn't touch it.

Pretty much anything with Brent Corrigan in it that isn't porn also sucks.

Birdcage

Next Year in Jerusalem

The godawful La Cage remake with Robin Williams.

Billys Screen Kiss (or whatever its title) with Sean Hayes.

Reflections in a Golden Eye

Eating Out was worth it just to see Marco Dapper in the Troy from Illinois scene.

Call Me By Your Name

Slow, pretentious & offensive.

CRUISING was an absolutely realistic depiction of the hardcore gay leather scene in 1970s-80s NYC.

Most of the extras & all of the leather bar locations in it were genuinely gay.

The production of the story was arguably flawed in many ways, but it was very realistic.

If you want to talk about shit, I give you James Francos, Interior: Leather Bar (or whatever). Complete crap.

Poison. Todd Haynes was the worst!

LEATHER JACKET LOVE STORY (1997) - awful trying-to-hard "quirky" movie with an ugly lead cast opposite an implausibly too-attractive love interest. You feel every penny of its low budget. FUN DOWN THERE (1989) - absolutely inept love story about a young gay coming out in the big city. Bad bad bad. Another vote for anything by Todd Verow - an impossible marriage of ineptitude, exhibitionism and pretentiousness. He's ghastly. A (dis)honorable mention for Bruce Le Bruce, who commits the same sins as Todd Verow but is marginally more talented.

Todd Verow really deserves his own DL thread. Pretentious whore.

Not a gay "movie" per se but the web series WHERE THE BEARS ARE is embarrassingly awful. A bunch of fat, non-professional actors turning all "gay Stepin Fetchit" when the cameras are own. Horrible. Disproves the myth that gay men are especially creative and/or attractive and have superior performing abilities.

That one about the Ken doll private detective investigating a murder.

R131 I’ll see your Bears and raise you a West 40s.

Amazon Prime has a few extremely low budget movies that are based on Kindle M/M erotica written by women.

I watched one called "Capital Gains" (may have been "Capital Games.") It was every bit as bad as you imagine.

LOVE, VALOUR, COMPASSION!!! Something off-putting about Jason Alexander running around in a caftan, the bad acting, and that ugly pock-marked racist queen. The whole film worked my nerves.

LIE DOWN WITH DOGS...another cornball bad movie that tried to hard to be edgy.

What racism, r135? Which queen?

I hated LOVE, VALOUR, COMPASSION, and can't say I have much time for The Torch Song Trilogy. A really bad dyke film is Better Than Chocolate but dykes lap it up like chocolate.

Must disagree on Todd Verow's Frisk (1996) - a masterpiece adapted from what I consider an unfilmable boo. His two or three films after Frisk were pretty good but its been all downhill from there.

[R130] It's Bruce LA Bruce, not Bruce LE Bruce - sorry. HUSTLER WHITE is his most high-profile unwatchable opus.

Dirty Girl

R134 I had blocked that one from my memory until you mentioned it. The author has a line of terrible erotica

Just to be Christmas contrary: a wonderful gay movie is "The Hanging Garden" by Thom Fitzgerald.

[quote][R134] I had blocked that one from my memory until you mentioned it. The author has a line of terrible erotica

I'm sorry, I should have included a trigger warning.

There's another one by the same woman called Naked Dragon that was so terrible, I couldn't even finish it in a "I like terrible movies" way.

Why did you hate the birdcage?

I did not care for Poison.

It seems that gay men hate gay movies. I am certainly not surprised.

R145 is Rob Williams, director of suck classics as Out to Kill and Shared Rooms.

R18 Perhaps I misunderstood the thrust of the film (I haven’t seen the play performed live), but didn’t it concern itself more with the idea of truth & identity - a ‘know thyself’? I won’t argue with you that the script is heavy-handed and the devices clunky, but stripped bare and edited heavily there is an absorbing conversation between two well-realised individuals there. I felt Speedman & Marsden interesting enough in these parts to watch them all the way through, and even wanted to see what happened to their characters after the ending. I think some of the lines they speak are memorable and fully believe the two men they played had serious chemistry and a connection. I’d watch it again, so I suppose for that I’d call it good.

I agree with you that it does have major flaws and even felt indulgent or like a fetish fanfic in places (Marsden is shown trussed up a conspicuous number of times...), but I’d argue that it is bad on more technical & textual level. For my sins I like THE 24TH DAY, and question the assertion that it takes a scornful view of promiscuous gay sex; it’s about the problem of gaming people, using people and infidelity.

SPOILER ALERT: Didn’t the final shot of Marsden’s chara opening his test results imply Speedman’s cheating wife was guilty of infecting both of them? Marsden’s character isn’t shown to leave Speedman’s apartment after that and I always wondered if he actually did and went to the cops as he threatened, or stayed with Speedman to console each other and then get into a dysfunctional relationship.

I loved Poison Ivy starring Drew Barrymore, Sara Gilbert, Tom Skerritt and Cheryl Ladd!!

So.... every gay movie is bad?

Pretty much.

I must make mention of auteur Rob Williams' latest, Happiness Adjacent, which was filmed (with an iPhone, I would wager) guerrilla style, aboard a cruise ship. Moderately attractive gay guy hooks up with unattractive closeted bi(?) guy who is sneaking around behind his wife's back.

They apparently couldn't even afford ADR, because there's one scene where the two dudes are in a hot tub, and rather than dub their lines over the noise, it's simply subtitled.

The House of Adam immediately sprang to mind, but didn't see it mentioned anywhere in this thread. I recall one viewer comment of "The cast seemed drunk" followed by "They'd have to be to get through this mess of a story!"

Do these directors who make straight to VOD films actually have second jobs or do they make a living with them?

BUMP

TLA owes me money. Fuck you, Derek.

This makes me reminisce about my youth, when I used to rent every mainstream gay movie possible at the video store. But then I’d also rent a couple of normal ones so it wasn’t obvious or anything.

There’s a pretty bad gay movie on Netflix right now about soccer players. Can’t think of the name. Eye candy thoug.

Has anyone watched the “Olympia” series out of Washington state?

Maybe more “odd” than bad, a slow “slice of life”/arsty called Daddy’s Boy. Desaturated almost black and white photography. Seems like a bunch of non-connected stories that have the “daddy” and similar power dynamics in common. Surprised to see QEII Antoni in a scene where he speaks mostly French - I knew he lived some time in Montreal but didn’t expect for him to sound like something out of a Xavier Dolan movie with an “authentic” joual accent.

Todd Verow may never make another film since his muse aka the scary old woman dressed as a thrift store explosion has passed away.

[quote]Rob Williams also makes some horrendous pieces of shit like Three Day Weekend and Make the Yuletide Gay.

[quote]The Family Stone

I rather like both "Make the Yuletide Gay" and "The Family Stone" but a really really bad gay-themed Christmas movie is "Visions of Sugarplums". Everything about it is lousy.

What do we think of Leather Jacket Love Story ? I kinda liked VooDoo Academy but DeCoteau produces the same crap over and over again. He must make some kind of profit since he has made about a hundred of them. If they were soft core (gay) with some nudity they would be worthwhile but instead they just tease so I quit watching them.

Sad that Netflix got rid of DeCockteau’s oeuvre. Like a bad car wreck you can’t help but watch, with eye candy.

‘HIStory: Crossing The Line’, Taiwan’s BL-miniseries sleeper hit from last year, is getting a movie sequel to conclude it in the Fall so we have that to look forward to.

It’s saccharine fanfic drivel but one can’t help but say ‘aww’ at the love scenes and sigh over the romantic softcore cinematography. It’s poor as a cheap doujinshi manga but eh, it’s feelgood.

Leather Jacket Love Story supposedly cost the actor with the huge cock that does the leather bar strip routine his acting career because no one would hire him afterward, not that anyone in that movie had much of an acting career before or after.

These all sound wonderfully bad. I plan to watch all of these "recommendations". Thank you bitches. Keep them coming!

There's a gay version of "Pride and Prejudice" on Amazon Prime that looked like it could be interesting but it was horribly slow and the only affection to be had was at the very end when the rough trade guy comes back to kiss the lawyer who inexplicably loves him. Can't remember the title but you'll know it when you see it.

Russell Tovey made some really bad movie a few years back about a footballer or something. It starts with him in his underwear but it's so talky and boring I couldn't even make it past 10 minutes.

Any one that starts with a milestone birthday, 30, 40, 50 etc and is filmed in their own apartment seemingly on their phone. If you're 50, you find yourself single and guess what? You meet a hot, lonely 29 year old. Your ex comes back at the end , but you have moved on. After 98 minutes of boring monologues and bad acting, you have found yourself.

Mid-00s was such a weird, frothy, pathetic time for gay cinema. I can’t explain it.

Like Japan’s BOYS LOVE in 2006, the exploitative offensive wangst-fest that started a joke genre. It’s a romantic drama out of a light novel written for Frauen, only for some reason it’s punctuated with statutory rape and underage sex and grimy hookups and stalking and minor abuse and Death (but weirdly there’s no overt vocalised homophobia). Best I can describe is that it’s a gay, cheap, commercial, sanitised, lighter and more linear 00’s version of sexploit movie TOPAZ (1992).

I saw BOYS LOVE a few times when it came out and have a time or two since, and I still don’t know what to make of it and how to properly judge it. It’s undeniably bad, even horrible, but it exposes something interesting about the vertices between gay content & straight audiences and it does so unapologetically. It’s also easy to watch and features Saito Takumi as a young model, so there’s that as a point to recommend.

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R166 it's not terrible. It's like a stage play, and he does spend 90% of it in his undies

Did anyone see the truly creepy movie that Gerald McCullouch made called Daddy where he plays an old chicken hawk who starts dating a young black guy only to find out that the guy is his son born from a sperm donation?

That WAS weird R171. And his son was not cute.

R166 & R170 - it was The Pass, I saw it on stage in London and I was in the front row. It was all I could do to restrain myself from leaping on stage and humping Russell when he was stark bollock naked a few inches away from me.

Well, the movie version of The Pass was boring, Tovey or no.

Making Love with Kate Jackson, Harry Hamlin & Michael Ontkean was too earnest and soapy when it was released in 1980 but is a laff riot today I liked Moonlight more than I thought I would but did anyone notice how hushed up they kept the gay storyline and didn't promote it as a gay film Love Simon was well done but basically a gay John Hughes film. the lead was good and not a stereotype.

Food Of Love (2002) is the story of a classical music student gayling (played by Kevin Bishop of Muppet Treasure Island fame) who becomes infatuated with his musical idol, and while vacationing in Europe with his depressed divorcing mother runs into him again. Then it gets complicated. Complete with requisite PFLAG meeting scene after mom finally catches on but doesn't know how to tell him.

Derek Jarman's "Sebastiane". Intensely boring and intensely pretentious (only Latin is spoken) – the best of both worlds!

r177 I think Jarman basically said much the same himself later on. He said his early films only made money because of the dearth of gay movies at the time and the loyalty of the gay audience to anyone who dared to make them.

I was 17 when I first saw Jarman's Sebastiane at the cinema on a double bill with Jarman's Jubilee and loved every minute of it. Sat through the whole thing with a massive hard-on. I recently watched it again and its not aged well at all. Thankfully, Jubilee has aged very well.

I forgot about this hot garbage. Do you think they made it to Redbox???

I found "BPM" unwatchable. I didn't care about any of the characters and it was boring.

I disagree about BPM. Félix Maritaud is amazing and probably the hottest gay actor working right now.

I agree about Maritaud R182. He was excellent in Sauvage, one of the best (not only "gay") movies I have seen. It does not belong to this thread, but here is the trailer.

Sadly most of them.

I liked Socrates even I though wish the ending had told what happened to the main character.

That Sean Hayes gay movie.