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If you have been to prison, what was the most awful thing that you saw in prison?

Do tell

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by Anonymousreply 144March 29, 2020 1:03 AM

I haven't been to prison, but man I have seen some crazy shit on lock up-

The two cons who injected the white of their eyes with blue and red tatoo ink. CRAZY. And, it never comes out.

by Anonymousreply 1August 11, 2017 7:30 PM

Oh my God!

by Anonymousreply 2August 11, 2017 7:31 PM

I saw an inmate wearing white after Labor Day.

by Anonymousreply 3August 11, 2017 7:33 PM

R3 oh hell no

by Anonymousreply 4August 11, 2017 7:34 PM

I heard someone use the N word

by Anonymousreply 5August 11, 2017 8:15 PM

I visited someone in prison, about two or three times. Apart from the general awful of being incarcerated, my first and strongest memory is that it stinks. It feels filthy wherever you are, and when you get home you cannot wait to wash every single item of clothing you were wearing that day, and that included overcoats.

Also, while you are visiting "in" prison you almost feel like you are treated like an inmate, although they are certainly treated ten times worse. You certainly aren't treated like a free person.

by Anonymousreply 6August 11, 2017 8:25 PM

I think the most awful thing is that it is full of criminals.

by Anonymousreply 7August 11, 2017 8:25 PM

Breakfast

by Anonymousreply 8August 11, 2017 8:34 PM

I've been to prison 3 times. 18 months, 2 years and 36 months. Laugh all you want, but the smells. Non stop noise. There is never a quiet moment. Bed count 3 times a night. Animalistic behavior. Never able to relax and feel safe. Boredom. Never ever again.

by Anonymousreply 9August 11, 2017 8:36 PM

I'm actually typing this from inside a prison right now --- but it's OK because I'm on the right side of the bars and I'm on my dinner break. Cant say much about prison life while I'm on a work computer, but I'll revisit this thread later on to see if I can add anything of interest.

by Anonymousreply 10August 11, 2017 8:39 PM

R9 I sure hope for you that you are right when you say never again, but considering you told us you have been locked up 3 separate times, what make you think this time will be any different? What changed this time from the previous two times?

by Anonymousreply 11August 11, 2017 8:44 PM

I saw fluorescent lighting!!

by Anonymousreply 12August 11, 2017 8:45 PM

A girl hanged herself while I was there on the pod across from us. She was only 19, her dad wouldn't take her call that night and some other girls had been saying cruel things to her. I never really saw anything awful with my own eyes, but a girl did get clobbered with a lock in a sock - had a huge bruise on her eye. The food is practically inedible. No one expects Wolfgang Puck to be back there cooking, but it really is inhumane to feed people like that. Quite a number died OD'ing when they got out.

by Anonymousreply 13August 11, 2017 8:48 PM

I hear the sheets have a very low thread count!

by Anonymousreply 14August 11, 2017 8:52 PM

Do you really think these DL queens will ever admit to being in prison OP? If you do, you're crazier than Erna.

by Anonymousreply 15August 11, 2017 8:53 PM

This reminds me, whatever happened to Momma who used to post those "cagemeat" threads? I miss her :(

by Anonymousreply 16August 11, 2017 9:05 PM

Mentally ill people all over the place who were abused, got in trouble and have been abandoned. Horrible lives.

by Anonymousreply 17August 11, 2017 9:07 PM

I heard someone say recently that every person in prison is a traumatized child. I believe it.

by Anonymousreply 18August 11, 2017 9:09 PM

I saw a guy named TOBIAS bottom for SHILLINGER....@@!!

by Anonymousreply 19August 11, 2017 9:09 PM

r9 what crimes did you commit that sent you to prison 3 times?

by Anonymousreply 20August 11, 2017 9:11 PM

I saw Aaron Schock decorating his cell to look like Downton Abbey.

by Anonymousreply 21August 11, 2017 9:11 PM

"I've been to prison 3 times."

You liked it enough to go back?

by Anonymousreply 22August 11, 2017 9:11 PM

I hear they don't even have Netflix! The horror!

by Anonymousreply 23August 11, 2017 9:55 PM

been to jail. not prison, tho.

by Anonymousreply 24August 11, 2017 9:58 PM

What is the difference between jail and prison, R24?

by Anonymousreply 25August 11, 2017 10:11 PM

I was in twice,from ages 15 thru 19 . The worst thing I saw was a guy who had committed suicide and they carried him out of his cell on his blood soaked mattress . Ill never forget his face,or the sound of the blood dripping onto the concrete floor. One of the other things I saw that got to me was a 16 year old puerto rican boy in my 1st camp that was covered with scars and cigarette burns ,he had obviously been viciously abused his whole life. he was terrified,and it showed,wich is never a good thing in a place full of animals. There was a group of black dudes headed by this piece of shit named Lucky who had that boy cornered up in a bathroom getting ready to do their worse when I walked in. I had no fear then,so I walked right into the middle of them,took that boys hand,and staring those assholes down,I led him out of the bathroom . My husband was the Major's aide,so I had big pull and no one would have dared touch me, they knew their asses would be shipped out the next day. I took him to my husband,explained the situation,and asked him to talk to the major about helping him. They sent him to a medical facility a week later,and many a time Ive thought about that poor kid and wondered how he was.

He was the second guy I had saved from rape or worse,and I was as femme as they came,and very pretty to boot. But I had no fear,and would fight like a wildcat at the drop of a pin.And they knew it.

by Anonymousreply 26August 11, 2017 10:14 PM

Arrested early 1970s charged with pimping and pandering, promoting deviant behavior. Aka, porn charge. . Possession of weed to traffic. Final, mid 1970, P&P, possession of a pipe, syringe. Thanks Lady Difi.

I collect SS now so the likelyhood of a return is rather slim!!! Seems kinda quaint now when I see retail marijuana stores and pornhub.

by Anonymousreply 27August 11, 2017 10:37 PM

I may be wrong but back then, jail was holding cell no bail or bond until trial and sentence. Prison was post sentence, at least in Cali.

by Anonymousreply 28August 11, 2017 10:39 PM

Damn R9, these days they probably wouldn't even arrest you for any of that. They might give you a "notice to appear" and make you go before a judge and maybe have to do a little community service. Times have really changed. No one should ever have to go to prison for providing sexual pleasure to another person.

by Anonymousreply 29August 11, 2017 11:00 PM

In Baltimore, county is for when you're first charged, and you are eligible for bail. It's also used for those with sentences under one year. Sentences of a year and one day go to state prison. You can earn more time off your sentence in prison, and are entitled to a parole hearing after 1/4 of your sentence for non-violent charges, 1/2 for violent ones. Sometimes a person will get out sooner from prison or about the same time as someone serving a shorter sentence in county.

by Anonymousreply 30August 11, 2017 11:16 PM

R26 great story. Thanks for coming to his aide, hope both he and you have turned your lives around

by Anonymousreply 31August 11, 2017 11:58 PM

I haven't been to prison, but have been to jail. I spent over a month in jail for something I didn't do, and was roughed up by cops when I was first arrested. When they do your intake interview, they ask if you're gay or straight, and if you tell them you're gay, you're sent to the gay pod. Many gays claim to be straight, since straight prisoners can request work details, which will lessen their sentences. On the other hand, there are guys who are normally straight, but will say they're gay in their intake interviews so they can get sex while incarcerated.

I had one good looking guy putting the moves on me when I first got in, but another guy (a really beautiful, butch, muscular, but child-like guy) stepped in an protected me. I loved that guy (Daniel), and randomly ran into him only a year ago at the grocery. We recognized each other, but it wasn't until I got home that I remembered how I met him. Anyway, the worst thing I remember seeing was the guy that first put the moves on me getting head from some fat, ugly bitch, in a little hiding space behind a bookcase. The fat guy was just sucking away like a demon, moaning and slurping like a fricken animal, not like anything I had ever witnessed in real life, or even porn.

It took me a long time before I was able to get a real job, and leave all that behind me. It was only two years ago that my ex (who parted with me over my incarceration), ended up in jail himself, and I had to bail him out. He was telling me how awful jail was, and I just kept saying, "I know, remember?" until it finally sank in to him. I'm white, so I got a chance to have a life afterwards. If you're black, in the US, it's very difficult to have any kind of life (legally) once you've been imprisoned.

by Anonymousreply 32August 12, 2017 12:41 AM

The earrings were all studs

The Caftans were threadbare and old-fashioned

by Anonymousreply 33August 12, 2017 12:53 AM

Jail is for short term incarceration R25 (usually 1-12 months). Mostly misdemeanor offenses or people who couldn't post bail and are held pending trial.

I've been to jail for a DUI for 30 days (though I was allowed to leave every day to go to work). Those of us "fuck ups" rather than "criminals" (depending on how you see it) were housed separately (DUI's, not paying child support, public intoxication, etc.). It was fine. Food was ... meh - not great but edible.

The "worst" thing I saw (and saw consistently) were people who went to "work" and then came back fucked up. I just can't imagine how bad a person's problem must be to not stay sober while [italics] in jail and risk "real" imprisonment.

by Anonymousreply 34August 12, 2017 12:55 AM

R29 amazing point. Times have changed.

by Anonymousreply 35August 12, 2017 1:10 AM

You rang??

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by Anonymousreply 36August 12, 2017 1:26 AM

The toilet paper was so course.

by Anonymousreply 37August 12, 2017 1:20 PM

Is there more sex in prison opposed to jail? Can you get a hold of condoms or is all cagemeat rendezvous bareback?

by Anonymousreply 38August 13, 2017 3:08 AM

I went to prison once and was terrorized by my cell mate who kept grunting things like "You like it like that, don'tcha" and "TIGHTEN that ass" as he was fucking me. I mean, he just wouldn't shut up!

by Anonymousreply 39August 13, 2017 3:31 AM

It was awful. The caviar was osetrova and I prefer petrossian beluga.

by Anonymousreply 40August 13, 2017 3:45 AM

Military Violence on bases. That's all I can say, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 41August 13, 2017 4:36 AM

My father

by Anonymousreply 42August 13, 2017 4:46 AM

Joan Ferguson

by Anonymousreply 43August 13, 2017 4:52 AM

If you really want to know what prison is like, there are quite a few very good documentaries on You Tube and on Netflix. Prison is a perpetual nightmare of stench, bullying, loneliness, and fear. Young black males who think it's a rite of passage to go are either slow witted, mentally ill, or both. Their lives are essentially over the first time they enter a prison. They are rendered incapable of ever earning an honest living.

by Anonymousreply 44August 13, 2017 5:06 AM

Those documentaries are too sensationalist, either by design or due to the limitations of the documentary form. It is hard to convey the tedium and boredom of prison on film.

In spite of extensively interacting with inmates inside prison for work-related reasons, I find this thread very helpful for understanding what it's like. Thanks everyone!

by Anonymousreply 45August 13, 2017 5:15 AM

There's a fairly recent book I just heard of called "The New Jim Crow," the premise of which, I think, is that incarceration of blacks and the whole justice system are actually a continuation of slavery.

by Anonymousreply 46August 13, 2017 5:34 AM

I know we had a Canadian CO here who used to work at Kingston Penitentiary (now closed, I believe). KP housed high profile inmates who had life sentences. I hope he sees this; he had some interesting, perceptive comments on human nature, particularly what psychopathy really is like.

by Anonymousreply 47August 13, 2017 6:11 AM

An inmate production of "Barefoot in the Park." Oy.

by Anonymousreply 48August 13, 2017 6:52 AM

I worked at a prison last year, which consisted of mostly men in their late teens and twenties. I wore a security uniform, so most of them made bacon sizzling sounds at me when I walked by. But the one image that stands out the most, was when it was a meal time as I was being shuttled out my last day there, and there were four large gymnasium style buildings packed with thousands of young men in their jumpsuits. It looked so unfortunate and tragic, and such an incredible waste of time, energy and life.

by Anonymousreply 49August 13, 2017 7:20 AM

Not a waste it it keeps those degenerates away from us, R49.

by Anonymousreply 50August 13, 2017 9:34 AM

a waste in the sense that adult daycare is necessary for so many. a buddy of mine is an ex-marine and prison guard who can tell stories which, sadly, i believe without question.

by Anonymousreply 51August 13, 2017 10:33 AM

I've asked numerous ex-cons about the pillows in prison and how many you get. Because I LOVE a good pillow and can only sleep with a minimum of three.

"Oh hell no! You lucky if you get ONE. And if you do, it cheap and flat."

by Anonymousreply 52August 13, 2017 10:40 AM

I have watched a bunch of this guys videos,some of them are amusing but the experience obviously sounds awful . The covert "cheek busting" and "peter licking" sounds enticing but probably not worth enduring the execrable conditions for it.

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by Anonymousreply 53August 13, 2017 10:48 AM

A terrible production of Gigi.

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by Anonymousreply 54August 13, 2017 11:52 AM

This quote comes out of that New Jim Crow book. "There are more African American men in prison, jail, on probation or parole than were enslaved in 1850."

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by Anonymousreply 55August 13, 2017 12:40 PM

R50, America has 25% of the world's prison population but only 5% of the world population.

You feeling safe at all?

by Anonymousreply 56August 13, 2017 1:10 PM

R56 both trusts data from totalitarian nations like a complicit stooge. Smugness helps no one.

by Anonymousreply 57August 13, 2017 1:43 PM

Thanks for your post, R32.

by Anonymousreply 58August 13, 2017 2:15 PM

At least they got the latest Max Bialystock musical before it went to Broadway.

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by Anonymousreply 59August 13, 2017 2:58 PM

R39 was your cellmate Jeff Stryker? :>)

by Anonymousreply 60August 13, 2017 3:57 PM

R46 interesting

by Anonymousreply 61August 13, 2017 6:30 PM

Surprise anal. Ouch!

by Anonymousreply 62August 13, 2017 8:43 PM

I did data collection at a prison. The smell alone is sickening , and the general unsanitary conditions they live in is an everyday awful. They only get one shower a day with this horribly made soap, so a lot of BO emanates from the feet/ armpits because some prisons don't provide deodorant . You have to get it from canteen.

The most awful thing were the people with " mysterious " injuries. I saw 3 while I was there. 1 had the fuck beat out of him with a lot of bruising and broken blood vessels (eyes, mouth, torso). The other 2 were beaten and cut.

Picture this: Guy with broken ribs, arm, and cuts on the neck , chest, and arm laying in a bed. Deep cuts that went beneath the dermis. In his cell you can see caked on dirt, and smell bed sheets that haven't been changed for weeks. Beside him is a hodgepodge collection of random plastic item, his and others. Prisoners hoard a lot of random items btw. These items become dirty over time. Now imagine toothbrushes (which had been used) being made into a shank with razor blades ( which will likely have staph on them).

The state has to provide a certain amount of medical care but that care is determined by a doctor, usually one of debatable ethics. They guy was in stiches and had a cast on his arm, but can you honestly expect him to keep such a thing clean ? No. He also couldn't get any opioid based pain med.

I will say it's odd logic that their dental care >>>medical care.

by Anonymousreply 63August 13, 2017 9:32 PM

I think I've seen every episode of MSNBC's 'Lock-Up' several times over. However, I have never seen them discuss rape. Drugs and horrible inmate on inmate violence, yes, but never rape. Homosexuality, drag queens, yes. But never rape. Is rape in prison a myth, or does it really happen?

by Anonymousreply 64August 13, 2017 10:15 PM

^ Asking for a friend, I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 65August 13, 2017 10:19 PM

[quote] They only get one shower a day with this horribly made soap

I assume you meant one shower a week.

by Anonymousreply 66August 13, 2017 10:31 PM

[quote]I think I've seen every episode of MSNBC's 'Lock-Up' several times over. However, I have never seen them discuss rape. Drugs and horrible inmate on inmate violence, yes, but never rape. Homosexuality, drag queens, yes. But never rape. Is rape in prison a myth, or does it really happen?

R64, I don't know from personal experience, but have read that it's very common. I hate when people joke about it. I couldn't bring myself to watch this video (related thread).

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by Anonymousreply 67August 13, 2017 11:03 PM

R64 Rape is not a myth. It's just that even in prison male-male rape is denied. I didn't want to make a beast long post so I excluded it . From the social cues I learned to pick up on, rape was a weekly occurrence in male pop, a monthly in female. This is largely do to some paranoid/weird code they live by.

Typically male-male rape is punishment or a grooming ritual. After you "learn" the rules of the prison and learn who to respect sex becomes a commodity . It's weird to interview prisoners who talk about humans and items as bartering tools. " I let them use my main (hoe) so he ( a shotcaller) could hook me up wiff a phone," is one I vaguely remember.

Someone threatens someone who doesn't have protection , and the weaker person yields is usually how it goes. If someone has a daddy they don't get raped. If you are friends/in a gang with a Shotcaller you are allowed to rape and not be raped, unless you disrespect someone. Nobodies are free to rape and threaten other Nobodies, which is why assault is common among the Nobody Group . I would say ~40% of the prison is in the Nobody Group.

EXAMPLES:

A) If Moderately Dangerous But Highly Respected Bill rapes Nobody Joe, then Nobody Joe won't admit to it. This could be because of fear/shame or not having protection .

B) If Mule Mark ( a person who smuggles things into gen pop) gets raped by White Gang Members #1-3 it's because Mule Mark stole something from White Daddy / Shotcaller or tried to resist his duty of smuggling. Taking without asking is stealing btw. Even if it's 1 cigarette.

C) Nobody Joe #1 rapes Nobody Joe #2. This is usually for lustful purposes, and Joe #2 is weaker/not a good fighter. They are designated Nobodies b/c they don't belong to a clique or have a role in the prison society. This type of rape is inconsequential and common.

D) New Guy Bob is raped because they need to figure out how tough he is. - 1) He puts up a good fight. He becomes part of Gang X. -2) He doesn't put up a good fight. He becomes a Nobody if he has no skills/hustle. -3) He doesn't put up a good fight and is easily intimidated. He becomes Property of Shotcaller X or Gang Leader X

R66 You assume incorrectly. Most prisons, private or otherwise, are governed by a set of rules under the Dept. of Justice or a State Dept.. While they don't follow all rules , certain rules are requisite if the facility is state . Private prisons have some leeway but not much. Hygiene, medical/dental, meals, sleep, parole/rehabilitation, and education are requisite rules. Prisoners are on a schedule and showers , like meals, are scheduled daily.

by Anonymousreply 68August 13, 2017 11:43 PM

Excellent post R68, thank you!

by Anonymousreply 69August 13, 2017 11:56 PM

Once DeWayne served room temperature pruno with cheese crackers! Bitch had no class.

by Anonymousreply 70August 13, 2017 11:56 PM

R70 who the fuck is Dewayne

by Anonymousreply 71August 14, 2017 1:13 AM

This. "Bulldog" seems hung.

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by Anonymousreply 72August 16, 2017 12:17 PM

I've never been to prison but a friend of mine has and said the most surprising thing is how boring it is. Friday in, day out is just boring all the time. He also sad that almost everyone in there, staff and inmates, are just utter fuckwits. My friend is smart middle class guy who did some crazy things on a coke bender which is how he ended up therein the first place.

by Anonymousreply 73August 16, 2017 12:34 PM

Are the murderers kept away from the other inmates?

by Anonymousreply 74August 16, 2017 1:09 PM

There was a very interesting and depressing documentary about Rikers. It sounds like most of the guards should be behind bars.

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by Anonymousreply 75August 16, 2017 1:24 PM

Gruel omelettes.

The Dementors.

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by Anonymousreply 76August 16, 2017 2:06 PM

Sounds like paradise to me.

by Anonymousreply 77August 16, 2017 6:45 PM

[quote]Are the murderers kept away from the other inmates? R74, I think they're supposed to, but I was placed in a holding cell at one point with a couple of very frightening guys (accused rapists and murderers) and a gay (I could tell) officer pulled me out and got me to my destination, and told me I wasn't supposed to share that holding cell with those guys. He told me I needed to speak up if that kind of thing happened, but really, a prisoner is completely powerless. I think I was put in the holding cell so that I would be killed.

One thing that educated me, from my brief time in jail, is how randomly and pointlessly cruel so much of the staff are. I was finally released at around 4 AM on a Monday morning, when there were no busses or cabs available. I called my parents' home, and no one answered (no surprise). It was February, and there were a few inches of snow on the ground. I was told I couldn't wait around in the lobby, and was escorted outdoors after making a couple of abortive phone calls. So I ended up walking the 7 miles home, through the snow. And once I was home, I thanked God that I wasn't black, since I'm sure a black guy would have somehow been arrested on the way. I had a tough time, but I know I had it easy compared to a black guy. When my co-workers complain to me about their jobs (only one of them knows my history), I thank the Lord that I have the job that I have, and have put all that behind me.

by Anonymousreply 78August 17, 2017 12:09 AM

Bad formatting, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 79August 17, 2017 12:09 AM

That's interesting R78. When I was released from jail (not prison) there were multiple cabs there waiting. They knew the schedule. I will say though that the jail did not allow you to have cash on your person, so I was glad I had a debit/credit card.

by Anonymousreply 80August 17, 2017 12:20 AM

I don't know how true they are but every Saturday and Sunday night unless there is some kind of big political news MSNBC has those Lockup shows supposedly shot at real prisons.

by Anonymousreply 81August 17, 2017 12:31 AM

Erna desperately looking for someone to fuck her.

by Anonymousreply 82August 17, 2017 12:38 AM

R75 Why can't anyone post the video they're talking about? This one was so easy to Google.

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by Anonymousreply 83August 17, 2017 12:52 AM

R83. Thanks. I couldn't watch the whole thing. I have to work tomorrow. But people have no clue. I got on the wrong side of things, and saw how ruthless it really can be.

by Anonymousreply 84August 17, 2017 1:39 AM

I spent a night in jail after hosting a party while I was in college. It was a small town in the Midwest and I was put in the drunk tank with two other women from the same party. The people at the jail were great, I had them laughing.

The seven of us who were arrested requested a trial by jury and one guy went to trial and was found not guilty. They then dropped the charges against the rest of us.

It was the most educational experience of my entire time in college. The most important thing I learned is that it is dangerous to be poor, the court appointed attorney was useless.

by Anonymousreply 85August 17, 2017 1:39 AM

Thanks for the information, R32 /78.

by Anonymousreply 86August 17, 2017 1:59 AM

R83 I posted that link because there was information about the documentary as well as a link to the film. Some people actually like to read. Try being less of a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 87August 17, 2017 8:38 PM

It is dangerous to be poor and it has become dangerous to work, I was assaulted twice at work, last month and the month before. I wish I didn't have to work.

by Anonymousreply 88August 17, 2017 9:21 PM

R88 assaulted why??? Wtf

by Anonymousreply 89August 17, 2017 9:23 PM

I interned with the US Attorney's office in law school and we got a full tour of the local maximum security federal penitentiary.

The Worst: all the walls in the major thoroughfares were lined with inspirational posters. You know, soothing nature pics with anodyne messages. It's one thing to put up with that shit at the dentist office or your cube farm, but it seemed like cruel and unusual punishment to subject the incarcerated to such bourgeois sentiment.

The Best: there were kittens in the yard that everyone was protective of.

The Strangest: 50 something white guy convicted of a white collar crime had an 8x10 glossy of First Lady Hillary Clinton (circa 1997) hanging on the wall of his cell.

The Funniest: We go into the cafeteria while they're serving lunch and my fellow interns crowd into each other in a defensive circle. (The guy who managed to position himself on the interior of circle mostly surrounded by women recently ran for office as a Republican.) I stand there with my boss and the guy leading the tour and we try not to laugh openly at my cohort.

The Hottest: the guys washing dishes.

by Anonymousreply 90August 17, 2017 9:57 PM

r88, you need to start a thread on that. WHAT HAPPENED?

by Anonymousreply 91August 17, 2017 10:13 PM

R88 I agree start a thread

by Anonymousreply 92August 17, 2017 10:19 PM

R90 Didn't you demand a tour of the showers, while in use?

by Anonymousreply 93August 17, 2017 11:10 PM

Calm down ladies. R88 works in a nursing home with Alzheimers patients.

by Anonymousreply 94August 17, 2017 11:15 PM

I think people of that ilk expect to eventually be incarcerated. By the time they're 30 they have along rap sheet. it becomes a life: illegal activity; arrest; incarceration; the courthouse. parole (repeat).

They talk about their incarceration the way soldiers talk about the military. They're not ashamed of it. They thrive on constant danger, noise, aggression, postering, tattoos.

They really don't want a 'normal' life.

by Anonymousreply 95August 17, 2017 11:33 PM

Yeah, well, R95, getting an education, working hard and having a real job/career is MUCH harder than just letting life happen to you, cheating the system and crying victim.

by Anonymousreply 96August 17, 2017 11:44 PM

Hi Diahann at R40

by Anonymousreply 97August 18, 2017 12:12 AM

R95

[quote]They really don't want a 'normal' life.

And good thing they don't, because even if they did, in this society they would never be able to "turn their life around" and get straight. Even if they cut off contact with all their criminal friends, laser off the tats and earn a transfer or associate's degree from community college, their criminal background would still bar them from a lot of "respectable" careers, so what would be the point of doing all that?

by Anonymousreply 98August 18, 2017 1:30 AM

So it's really a question of are you a noise/stench person or a quiet/beautiful surroundings person. If you like noise, violence, and stench, then prison is the life for you.

by Anonymousreply 99August 18, 2017 1:36 AM

In my former career, we got to tour one of my state's notorious prison's that had minimum, medium, and maximum.

All of us women dressed like nun's that day. Covered head to toe in baggy clothes with minimal makeup and plain jane hair.

We go on our tour behind the walls of Maximum. While we are touring the cell block, it happens to be shower time! They tell us not to look in their direction or look in the mirrors installed on the blind spots.

We can hear the hooting and hollering when they realize we are near. My dumb ass makes the mistake of looking up at the mirrors. Those jackals are standing on anything they could in the showers soaped up and stroking like their lives depended on it

by Anonymousreply 100August 18, 2017 2:04 AM

Yet, #98, it does happen.

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by Anonymousreply 101August 18, 2017 2:08 AM

I want to visit Death Row just so I can hear someone replicate Susan Hayward's climactic speech in "I Want to Live!"

by Anonymousreply 102August 18, 2017 2:37 AM

[quote]I've never been to prison but a friend of mine has and said the most surprising thing is how boring it is. Friday in, day out is just boring all the time.

R73, yes, that's what I remember the most: the excruciating boredom. Eventually, I settled in with a group of guys who let me join them playing cards: I had to be taught all over again (from me teenage years) how to play Hearts, Spades, Poker and 500. In the evenings, we watched VHS tapes (if enough people could agree on one). Not surprisingly (it was a gay pod), the favorite tape was highlights from the Carol Burnett Show. I actually sort of miss playing cards (I've forgotten how to play).

by Anonymousreply 103August 18, 2017 11:49 PM

r102, you're ready to fly right out of here, aren't you?

by Anonymousreply 104August 19, 2017 12:54 PM

Inspiring story, R100.

by Anonymousreply 105August 19, 2017 1:01 PM

Believe it or not, my 6th grade class got a tour of a large county courthouse (sat in some trials) and then toured the attached jail. I believe it was a lesson in civics and the judicial system, but I don't know how anyone would let that happen today. (This was in 1980). I remember the look and sense of fear on the faces of those in trial. The prison air was so fetid - no fresh air it seemed at all. The food looked comparable to our school lunch food but I couldn't imagine eating that 3x a day. Depressing and shocking.

We were white UMC kids - and it was a really good lesson. Later, I worked in law enforcement in Manhattan for a short time and got to tour the Tombs, which was worse. These were short-term or holding prisons before cases were resolved, so not exactly the same thing as a state or federal prison, but it's enough to make you say that you NEVER want to be part of that. Ever.

by Anonymousreply 106August 19, 2017 1:35 PM

I was jailed for a few hours back then. Met lots of interesting characters. There where 3 older queens there arrested for prostitution. The butchiest one said she was in Attica. The other telling a story about local pageant she lost. The other one saying she's supposed to be on her way to meet a celebrity

by Anonymousreply 107August 19, 2017 1:52 PM

Jeffrey Archer was asked in an interview how come he some cushy job in the library or working in the office, and he explained that most of his fellow inmates were functionally illiterate.

by Anonymousreply 108August 19, 2017 2:22 PM

So many of you have been on tours and behind-the-scenes visits, yet so few of you were actually SCARED STRAIGHT!

by Anonymousreply 109August 19, 2017 4:28 PM

[quote]The Strangest: 50 something white guy convicted of a white collar crime had an 8x10 glossy of First Lady Hillary Clinton (circa 1997) hanging on the wall of his cell.

You find this strange?

And you regularly visit the Datalounge?

by Anonymousreply 110August 19, 2017 6:19 PM

R102 never heard it.

by Anonymousreply 111February 28, 2020 3:33 AM

Not me, but my sister got sent to juvenile hall for (I swear I'm not kidding) skipping school. She said it was "boring." She said a lot of the same stuff that people here did about playing a lot of cards. She said that they also played board games and watched soaps.

There was some sad stuff too, like girls who were clearly abusive victims and pregnant teens.

by Anonymousreply 112February 28, 2020 3:52 AM

It was strange to see this thread to come up again, since I posted on it back in 2017.

by Anonymousreply 113February 28, 2020 3:55 AM

A very interesting documentary about a theater director who goes into the prison and directes the inmates inn a Shakespeare play. He was doing The Tempest and emphasized the theme of forgiveness. The inmate who was cast as Prospero had a very emotional interview about how this applied to him, as he had murdered his wife and was spending every day of his life seeking forgiveness. He was sobbing throughout the interview. They were proud of the work they did and their families came to the presentation. It looks at prisoners as more human than animal.

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by Anonymousreply 114February 28, 2020 11:34 AM

Jails are county or city facilities. Prison is state.

by Anonymousreply 115February 28, 2020 11:42 AM

I wasn't able to order my Brooks Brothers Country Club cologne.

by Anonymousreply 116February 28, 2020 12:13 PM

Ask us in 3 years.

by Anonymousreply 117February 28, 2020 12:16 PM

bump!

by Anonymousreply 118February 28, 2020 12:29 PM

Kristopher Tabori raped.

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by Anonymousreply 119February 28, 2020 3:21 PM

One thing I did in my career was to evaluate and accredit educational institutions - schools and colleges. And programs in jails and prisons. I remember during a week visit in a California prison visiting the wing of senior prisoners... seeing them in wheelchairs, walkers, immobile in their beds. So say, the lifers getting senile behind bars.

Another visual memory - a prison guard grabbing his baton and rushing out to the yard, yelling at prisoners, some crisis. He had his pants pulled up tightly by a wide belt... he has enormous balls and dick bulging out of his pants. It was so obviously he had arranged his pants to show his junk in this way. I remember thinking what the hell was the point, what this guy's warped sexuality was all about.

Prison is not a happy place. I also taught briefly in LA County jail - Hall of Justice jail downtown. The "groups" had different colors... red for stoolies, powder blue for the "soft" young guys, dark blue for the street queens... the groups had to be kept separate from each other. The street drag queens were the hardest... they sensed a "weakness" in me, and they ripped me apart with truly inventive and effective verbal attacks. The stoolies seemed barely able to speak. The soft boys just lost... The general population, just depressed.

by Anonymousreply 120February 28, 2020 3:35 PM

An inmate dialing the payphone with a pencil.

by Anonymousreply 121February 28, 2020 3:46 PM

Since I was a kid, I’ve been horrified by what we do with prisoners in a supposedly first world country. We are brutal. And the for non-violent drug offenses.

by Anonymousreply 122February 28, 2020 4:14 PM

R122, whenever I go to Europe or some Asian countries, I am always amazed by how calm, civilized and mature daily life is. Last year I came back from a vacation in Switzerland and took the subway home after landing at JFK. I had the sense that I had landed in a third world, under medicated psycho ward.

by Anonymousreply 123February 28, 2020 10:52 PM

No, you were just experiencing daily life in New York.

by Anonymousreply 124February 29, 2020 1:48 AM

[quote] However, I have never seen them discuss rape

All these shows are sensationalistic at best and not honest. Fresh out of college my first paid job was working for a non profit working with rehabilitation of felons. My job was to collect stories of their lives for a database.

Everyone would confide in me that sex was rampant and everyone engaged in it. COs and whanot had a field day with many inmates for years on end, like that storyline with Piscatella in Orange is the New Black.

After a while I started to believe this to be true and the norm. That's why I call bullshit on this documentaries and even those ex felons with Youtube channels, I don't think they're being honest about the whole sex that really goes on, because of homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 125March 28, 2020 10:32 AM

having to resort to wrapping yourself in toilet paper every night because it's so fucking cold

by Anonymousreply 126March 28, 2020 11:13 AM

Uneven stitching on my uniform.

by Anonymousreply 127March 28, 2020 11:27 AM

I know two middle/upper middle class men and one woman who were sent to prison for white-collar crime. It was very hush-hush so I don’t even know what kind of facility these people were in, probably minimum security.

by Anonymousreply 128March 28, 2020 12:29 PM

In the US, 1 in 3 has an arrest record.

We try to arrest our way into stopping crime—everything has become a reason to put someone into jail.

It’s just become housing for the mentally ill and impoverished

by Anonymousreply 129March 28, 2020 12:52 PM

Federal prison is the Datalounge retirement plan. When I get old I'll walk into a bank and hand the teller a note demanding money with one hand in my pocket. I'll peacefully get arrested and tossed in federal prison away from the riff-raff trash of the general population prison and enjoy a easy life of reading books and taking college courses. My three dependable meals a day will be tolerable, and being old and ahem, slightly husky, I'll won't be traded for cigarettes.

by Anonymousreply 130March 28, 2020 1:07 PM

I used to work in a private correctional facility and in another community based correctional facility.

One thing I remember is how creative those motherfuckers were when it came to Friday/Saturday night movie snacks.

They would hoard certain things like beans and rice during the week and add whatever they pooled to buy out of the vending machines.

Jail house nachos, jail house burritos, all sorts of ramen and popcorn combinations.

by Anonymousreply 131March 28, 2020 2:16 PM

Movie nights? In prison?

by Anonymousreply 132March 28, 2020 3:22 PM

Work in a close security prison which is one level lower than maximum. 1400 men, 900 validated gang members. Rape happens but it’s kept quiet because the victim is scared, rightfully so, or doesn’t want to be labeled as a sissy. We have had, just this week, 2 complete lockdowns of the facility. Tuesday ,13 gang members stabbed each other up with one being stabbed in the mouth under the tongue. He was life flighted out. Others just had broken jaws, stab wounds with stitches and staples, and pokes ( deep puncture wounds). Same night two officers were assaulted and both went to hospital with one life flighted out. Thursday night a whole dorm went to fighting, barricaded the door and they really stabbed each other up. It looked like a slaughterhouse. We had to drop OC spray and tear gas from the top of the unit until we could get control of the dorm. It looked like a slaughterhouse. Again, one was life flighted out. 2 weeks ago a guy strangled his bunk mate to death and 2 weeks before that another officer was stabbed, life flighted out ,and lost 3 feet of intestine. We are over 100 officers short so it’s a war zone all the time. We can’t keep ourselves safe much less an inmate. So yeah that’s prison life.

by Anonymousreply 133March 28, 2020 4:09 PM

Ok I said slaughterhouse twice but it was worth repeating. We also have a pod just for LBGT’s. They extremely vicious but easier to control...except for those sassy ass mouths.

by Anonymousreply 134March 28, 2020 4:13 PM

Bitches please. When I was in prison we ate lobster dinners and had internet access. The Feds treat you like royalty.

by Anonymousreply 135March 28, 2020 4:17 PM

I had to in jest crystal meth and fuck alpha studs to stay alive.

by Anonymousreply 136March 28, 2020 4:18 PM

prison rape

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by Anonymousreply 137March 28, 2020 4:31 PM

R132, Yes, it was one thing besides vistatation that they looked forward to.

I remember one weekend with a lockdowns due to behavior and head counts that kept getting messed up(not mine because I knew how to count) and the inmates were bitched nonstop about not getting their movie time.

by Anonymousreply 138March 28, 2020 8:57 PM

The most awful thing?

Harvey Weinstein.

by Anonymousreply 139March 28, 2020 10:36 PM

I stopped reading this read after R3. I don’t think my heart could take it.

by Anonymousreply 140March 28, 2020 11:03 PM

[quote] The toilet paper was so course.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 141March 28, 2020 11:23 PM

[quote]The toilet paper was so course.

Of coarse it was.

by Anonymousreply 142March 28, 2020 11:50 PM

I knew a girl who went to prison. But then she died.

by Anonymousreply 143March 28, 2020 11:54 PM

The lack of nutmeg

by Anonymousreply 144March 29, 2020 1:03 AM
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