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British actors who suck

It seems like so many British actors are stage-trained thesps who went to RADA and can move from Shakespeare to big budget movies with ease......but surely they must have some bad actors over there, right? The only one I can think of is Henry Cavill, who makes Keanu Reeves look expressive.

by Anonymousreply 314April 9, 2018 4:31 PM

John Castle

Simon MaCcorkindale

Matthew Macfadyen

by Anonymousreply 1July 25, 2017 12:46 AM

Liz Robertson - one of Alan Jay Lerner's wives - who debuted on Broadway in "Dance a Little Closer" (nicknamed "Close A Little Faster" which it did). She was not good, and show despite having some nice songs, was so bad it made co-star George Rose look bad.

by Anonymousreply 2July 25, 2017 12:52 AM

r1, I think Matthew Macfadyen is pretty decent. I'll give you Simon MacCorkindale, though.

by Anonymousreply 3July 25, 2017 12:55 AM

At least half of the cast of DOWNTON ABBEY should consider themselves lucky.... very, VERY lucky.

And I include the Americans, Elizabeth McGovern and Shirley Maclaine (who frankly, sucked on the show) in that number.

by Anonymousreply 4July 25, 2017 12:58 AM

Yeah, I quite like Matthew Macfadyen too, r3.

I know he's very well-respected, but I find Simon Callow unbearably hammy.

by Anonymousreply 5July 25, 2017 1:01 AM

r4, speaking of Downton Abbey......"Lady Sibyl" was more wooden than a surfboard.

by Anonymousreply 6July 25, 2017 1:03 AM

Not a fan of Cumberbatch--think he's too closed off.

I also feel Judi Dench has an extremely limited range. When she's in that range, she's wonderful (as in "Notes on a Scandal"). But she's dreadful at comedy--she drained all the fun out of Lady Catherine de Bourgh when she played her in "Pride and Prejudice."

by Anonymousreply 7July 25, 2017 1:04 AM

Emilia Clarke.

by Anonymousreply 8July 25, 2017 1:05 AM

Mrs. Patrick Campbell.

Thread closed.

by Anonymousreply 9July 25, 2017 1:07 AM

To me, Cumberbatch's role as a pompous but bumbling pilot in the radio sitcom "Cabin Pressure" is still his best performance.

by Anonymousreply 10July 25, 2017 1:08 AM

Michelle Dockery, above all else.

by Anonymousreply 11July 25, 2017 1:20 AM

[quote]When she's in that range, she's wonderful (as in "Notes on a Scandal"). But she's dreadful at comedy

Despite that, she can be terrifically funny. As demonstrated in Notes, Philomena, Skyfall, Shakespeare in Love, Rage and Cranford.

by Anonymousreply 12July 25, 2017 1:25 AM

MacCorkindale was so fucking pretty, tho.

by Anonymousreply 13July 25, 2017 1:33 AM

Minnie Driver

Ben Chaplin

Jude Law

Russell Brand

Sienna Miller

by Anonymousreply 14July 25, 2017 1:38 AM

Orlando Bloom

by Anonymousreply 15July 25, 2017 1:40 AM

Felicity Jones

by Anonymousreply 16July 25, 2017 1:44 AM

[quote]I'll give you Simon MacCorkindale

Actually, give ME Simon MacCorkindale, circa Death on the Nile, in which he was positively scrumptious.

by Anonymousreply 17July 25, 2017 1:45 AM

cavill...bleah

by Anonymousreply 18July 25, 2017 1:46 AM

[quote]But she's dreadful at comedy

Bullshit. She's terrific at comedy - have you even seen any of her sitcoms?

by Anonymousreply 19July 25, 2017 1:47 AM

Orlando Bloom - yes!!!!!! He's awful in everything.

by Anonymousreply 20July 25, 2017 1:47 AM

Alex Pettyfer owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 21July 25, 2017 1:50 AM

I thought you meant Suck Cock and was going to mention Mr Cavill here. On that note, He was brilliant on the tudors. But nothing else since or before.

by Anonymousreply 22July 25, 2017 1:50 AM

Laurence Olivier was a hack actor with no appreciable body of work.

by Anonymousreply 23July 25, 2017 1:51 AM

I like the plain daughter on Downton Abbey = what was her name, Laura? Laura Carmichael?

I think the jury's still out on Michelle Dockery. She was very good in the limited role she had on DA, and she was surprisingly peppy on that thing where - what was it called? - Bad Habits, I think?

by Anonymousreply 24July 25, 2017 1:51 AM

[quote]Ben Chaplin

Have you seen the BBC drama Apple Yard Lane? I thought he was spellbinding in that.

by Anonymousreply 25July 25, 2017 1:52 AM

I think the jury's still out on James Norton, too, but his spectacular body will carry him far.

He plays an American in that remake of Flatliners, but that will hardly show off his acting chops.

by Anonymousreply 26July 25, 2017 1:56 AM

Billie Piper

by Anonymousreply 27July 25, 2017 1:57 AM

[quote]Laurence Olivier was a hack actor with no appreciable body of work.

Oh please. Marathon Man, Spartacus, Richard III, Hamlet, Henry V, Rebecca, The Shoes of the Fisherman, Wuthering Heights, The Entertainer, Bunny Lake Is Missing, Spartacus, Brideshead Revisited. That's a fucking impressive career.

by Anonymousreply 28July 25, 2017 1:58 AM

Keira Knightley!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 29July 25, 2017 1:58 AM

I think Michelle Dockery is decent.

Billie Piper? Yes, she stinks.

by Anonymousreply 30July 25, 2017 1:58 AM

Henry used to be decent. I don't know what happened.

by Anonymousreply 31July 25, 2017 2:02 AM

R31 He traded beauty in for muscles.

by Anonymousreply 32July 25, 2017 2:04 AM

Stephen Moyer

by Anonymousreply 33July 25, 2017 2:06 AM

I thought Minnie Driver was great on ABC's Speechless. But, her past work sucks.

by Anonymousreply 34July 25, 2017 2:08 AM

I agree Cavill used to be better. He used to get better material.

Sienna Miller and Russell Brand are both talentless. Keira Knightley's severely limited, and doesn't have the timing for comedy. Dockery's all right. It's mostly that Lady Mary was a tight-assed bore.

[quote]I also feel Judi Dench has an extremely limited range. When she's in that range, she's wonderful (as in "Notes on a Scandal"). But she's dreadful at comedy--she drained all the fun out of Lady Catherine de Bourgh when she played her in "Pride and Prejudice."

Dame Judi, of anyone listed in the thread, does not have a limited range. She has excellent timing, and is great at comedy. Deborah Moggach's screenplay for Pride & Prejudice took all the fun out of EVERYTHING. It's a truly terrible adaptation. It didn't serve Knightley or McFadyen particularly well. But the Lady Catherine character was maybe the biggest misunderstanding of the lot. Nobody could have a recognizable human being out of that -- not Dench or anybody else. Moggach is a hack, and should be prevented, physically if necessary, from writing any more screenplays. And Joe Wright's a bigger hack than anybody else named in the thread so far.

by Anonymousreply 35July 25, 2017 2:12 AM

Keira Knightley on her worst day is still vastly superior to Cara Delevigne on her best, and I'm no fan of Knightley.

by Anonymousreply 36July 25, 2017 2:13 AM

Cavill was not great in The Tudors. Maybe he was better than he has been recently, but he was still a pretty bad actor back then too.

by Anonymousreply 37July 25, 2017 2:17 AM

"Nobody could have made a recognizable human being..." I meant to say.

And I refuse to count Cara "I Don't Even Know How To Spell My Last Name Properly" Delevingne as an actress. A lump of Parmesan would be vastly superior to Miss Unibrow Scowlington as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 38July 25, 2017 2:19 AM

Alex Pettyfer makes Cavill look like John Gielgud

by Anonymousreply 39July 25, 2017 2:20 AM

Cavill was pretty. He threw that away to become the Michelin Man.

by Anonymousreply 40July 25, 2017 2:22 AM

You guys are just jealous because I have big tits

by Anonymousreply 41July 25, 2017 3:26 AM

Not that long ago I would have closed this thread.

by Anonymousreply 42July 25, 2017 6:59 AM

Has anyone said Emma Watson yet?

by Anonymousreply 43July 25, 2017 10:41 AM

Lewis Collins

Linda Thorson

Liz Hurley

by Anonymousreply 44July 25, 2017 1:14 PM

I'm not a fan of Cumberbatch either.

And I think Hugh Grant has really limited range.

by Anonymousreply 45July 25, 2017 1:46 PM

Dame Joan Collins

by Anonymousreply 46July 25, 2017 1:49 PM

R45, yes, but he's very good in that range.

by Anonymousreply 47July 25, 2017 1:52 PM

Billie Piper was brilliant in Penny Dreadful.

by Anonymousreply 48July 25, 2017 1:52 PM

Emma Thompson

Vanessa Redgrave

by Anonymousreply 49July 25, 2017 2:11 PM
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by Anonymousreply 50July 25, 2017 2:11 PM

Tom Hopper. Pretty guy, but action movie star material at best.

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by Anonymousreply 51July 25, 2017 2:52 PM

[quote]Minnie Driver

I like her in Circle of Friends and her comedy stuff like her guest stint in Will & Grace, Ab Fab, and her Speechless show.

by Anonymousreply 52July 25, 2017 2:54 PM

[quote]Emilia Clarke

Does anyone even care about Clarke anymore since she refuses to take her tits out on GOT?

by Anonymousreply 53July 25, 2017 2:56 PM

Hugh Grant knows his limited range and admits it. I think he sort of stumbled into acting.

by Anonymousreply 54July 25, 2017 3:03 PM

I can't get past Billie Pipers teeth.

by Anonymousreply 55July 25, 2017 3:04 PM

[quote] Hugh Grant knows his limited range and admits it. I think he sort of stumbled into acting.

And then he stumbled into the arms of Divine Brown.

by Anonymousreply 56July 25, 2017 3:08 PM

Douglas Booth owns this thread. Cavill's coasted on his pretty far too long. I would have said James Norton had too, but S2 of Happy Valley proved he can act.

More Limited Rangers: Rupert Penry-Jones, Miranda Hart (love her, though), Richard Madden and the jury's out on Taron Egerton.

by Anonymousreply 57July 25, 2017 3:22 PM

Surprised Kit Harrington has not been mentioned. Would second : Norton, Emilia Clarke, Emma Watson, Orlando Bloom, Henry Cavill

I like Lily James but I think her range is limited, same with Matt Smith , John Boyega and Sam Heughan

by Anonymousreply 58July 25, 2017 3:44 PM

Gary Oldman. Phew, open a window.

by Anonymousreply 59July 25, 2017 3:48 PM

r50, who is that? He's hot, whoever he is

by Anonymousreply 60July 26, 2017 12:02 AM

Emilia Clarke, sure.. You still root for her on GoT, as limited as she is, because she's written as a hero!

by Anonymousreply 61July 26, 2017 12:11 AM

Colin Firth. Wooden, extremely limited, one note actor.

by Anonymousreply 62July 26, 2017 12:19 AM

[quote][R50], who is that? He's hot, whoever he is

Not a British actor, but a Slovenian-American gay porn star Tanner (Tanner Davis) from Sean Cody. I don't know how he ended up here lol.

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by Anonymousreply 63July 26, 2017 12:20 AM

Colin Firth was brilliant in "Lost Empires", one of his first acting gigs. I saw this series on PBS many years ago.

The problem is, when these British actors and actresses start working in US, everything seems to go downhill.

by Anonymousreply 64July 26, 2017 12:25 AM

[quote]Sienna Miller

Sienna was actually great as Edie Sedgwick, besides looking so much like Edie, her acting was excellent.

It's unfortunate that Sienna gets such negativity, especially here at DL. IMHO, the negativity is mostly due to her personal life. I've always enjoyed her acting. Sienna is much more of an an IT Girl than that no-talent former groupie, the fug cross-eyed nothing Alexa Chung, who is always being pushed as if she's someone the public should care about. Alexa has as much substance as a Kardashian!

by Anonymousreply 65July 26, 2017 12:30 AM

Sienna is a decent actress but she lacks personality on the screen, which is why she's usually in wife/girlfriend roles

Hugh Grant is a very good actor but he got lazy and coasted for a bit. I liked him in Florence Foster Jenkins.

by Anonymousreply 66July 26, 2017 12:33 AM

Colin Firth was/is Darcy from BBC's 1996 Pride and Prejudice. I consider that performance the standard for that role.

by Anonymousreply 67July 26, 2017 12:36 AM

Michael Gothard

by Anonymousreply 68July 26, 2017 12:37 AM

[quote]It's unfortunate that Sienna gets such negativity, especially here at DL.

DL has nothing on us.

by Anonymousreply 69July 26, 2017 2:49 AM

[quote]It's unfortunate that Sienna gets such negativity, especially here at DL. IMHO, the negativity is mostly due to her personal life

True. She's quite good. Much better than Keira Knightley and Billie Piper and other Brits of that age bracket she gets lumped in with. She was great in Ben Affleck's Live By Night and High Rise.

by Anonymousreply 70July 26, 2017 2:58 AM

Frankly, I find so many of the young Brits indistinguishable and not very interesting. Sienna, Kiera, Taron Egerton, Tom Holland, Kit Harrington, Ben Whishaw, Sam Claflin, Eddie Redmayne, Carrie Mulligan, Emma Watson.

Whatever.

It says far more about the crisis of confidence in Hollywood (we need a BRIT to give this some class!) than it does about the star power of some of these capable but very dull young people they are beating the drum about.

If I were an American actor with talent and training, this trend would make me HOMICIDAL.

by Anonymousreply 71July 26, 2017 3:09 AM

Out of that group I think Mulligan, Redmayne, and Whishaw are very talented. The rest range from "meh" to terrible.

by Anonymousreply 72July 26, 2017 3:14 AM

Michael York owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 73July 26, 2017 3:19 AM

Oliver Reed

by Anonymousreply 74July 26, 2017 3:20 AM

Oliver Reed? I take it you've never seen The Devils, Women in Love, The Damned, The Brood or The Debussy Film?

by Anonymousreply 75July 26, 2017 3:23 AM

I love Derek Jacobi....but he seems to just be acting like himself in every movie.

by Anonymousreply 76July 26, 2017 3:48 AM

R76, are you the Cadfael troll?

by Anonymousreply 77July 26, 2017 3:49 AM

R71 I suspect the real reason why more and more Brits are being used in Hollywood is simply for the fact that many American actors have herpes. That and let's be honest Hollywood isn't known for diversity so why get a white American when you can get THE purest white and English is THE best kind of white (shit relax everyone not a racist or troll). Oh and let's be real, Brits are so much better at acting. God Damn I was so happy when we had Hugh Laurie (House) and Stephen Fry (Bones, for about a season) Stateside.....lucky Brits.

by Anonymousreply 78July 26, 2017 4:00 AM

I never found Jane Leeves funny on Frasier.

by Anonymousreply 79July 26, 2017 4:18 AM

Linda Thorson is Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 80July 26, 2017 4:18 AM

R78 Why you think Herpes are only contracted by Americans?

by Anonymousreply 81July 26, 2017 4:50 AM

Cumberbatch started as a decent actor, but he got hammy for Sherlock and Star Trek and is only capable of subtly now when the right director reigns him in.

by Anonymousreply 82July 26, 2017 5:22 AM

Kenneth Branagh. Totally overrated. He's not very handsome and he has no charisma at all. Let him stick with his boring Shakespeare crap that the British stuff shirt theater crowd all creamed in their jeans for about 30 years ago. No one else seems to give a damn about this guy. I wish he would retire from contemporary movies where he only seems to suck the life out of every scene he is in.

by Anonymousreply 83July 26, 2017 5:36 AM

Good lord, the original Pirates of the Caribbean cast (Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley)... I just re-watching Star Wars: Rogue One and found the lead girl (Felicity Jones) full as dishwater... (at least Daisy Ridley had heart and spunk in Force Awakens)... I find Daniel Craig sleep-inducing... On the flip side, James McAvoy brought SOME personality to Atomic Blonde while Charlize just strutted through her performance like an early '90s Sharon Stone (but with less humor - oy)

by Anonymousreply 84July 26, 2017 5:46 AM

I've been watching the first couple of seasons of Midsomer Murders on Netflix and in almost every episode someone comes across a dead body and screams in the most unnatural, fake way. It makes me think that British actors just aren't trained in the art of screaming because they're terrible at it.

by Anonymousreply 85July 26, 2017 6:01 AM

No votes for Robert Pattinson or Jamie Dornan yet?

by Anonymousreply 86July 26, 2017 6:07 AM

Cara "70's muff for eyebrows" Delevingne

Daisy Ridley

Alice Eve

Karen "shortbread biscuit" Gillan

by Anonymousreply 87July 26, 2017 6:48 AM

All the Brits polluting the new Star Wars suck. The new lead girl has zero charisma.

by Anonymousreply 88July 26, 2017 6:59 AM

Kit Harrington looks like the American actor who played Marnie's boyfriend on GIRLS, Christopher Abbott, who I linked below..

I find that so many of today's actors get confused for other actors. So many of interchangeable.

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by Anonymousreply 89July 26, 2017 7:07 AM

Kit is better looking, but no one can deny the remarkable resemblance.

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by Anonymousreply 90July 26, 2017 7:09 AM

[quote]Despite that, she can be terrifically funny. As demonstrated in Notes, Philomena, Skyfall, Shakespeare in Love, Rage and Cranford.

And A Room With A View - Eleanor Lavish!

[quote]Hugh Grant knows his limited range and admits it. I think he sort of stumbled into acting.

I remember being so impressed by his performance as Clive in Maurice, his first big role, which was utterly unlike anything he's done since. And then later when he became famous for his sheepish 'um, uh, um' schtick, it was just sad to me. There was a better actor in there, but he chose hackery instead.

by Anonymousreply 91July 26, 2017 7:22 AM

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by Anonymousreply 92July 26, 2017 7:32 AM

[quote]the original Pirates of the Caribbean cast (Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley)

They were absolutely terrible in that movie. Fortunately, both improved quite a bit afterward.

by Anonymousreply 93July 26, 2017 7:33 AM

Emily Blunt. I've only seen her in four films (Edge of Tomorrow, Girl on a Train, the Devil Wears Prada, that shitty Looper movie with Joseph Gordon-Levitt). She gave zero-impression performances in all, even Tammy outshone her in EoT. Such a lackluster actress, yet for some inexplicable reason is still continuously cast in big-name Hollywood films.

Juno Temple. I've only seen her in this one silly little movie I caught on TV one day called the Brass Teapot, but was struck by how cringingly awful her American accent was. Her character spoke one line and I knew immediately that the actress was actually British.

All the pretty planks of wood previously mentioned (Cavill, Pettyfer, Dornan, et al.)

All the Harry Potter kids, including Robert Pattinson. I was really hoping they'd all fade away after HP, but it seems Emma Watson, who is dull as dishwater both in terms of appearance and acting ability, is still insistently being foisted upon the public.

I think casting Freddie Highmore as Norman Bates was a genius decision. He was a charismatic child actor, which no doubt helped with the "charming-yet-creepy-boy-next-door" vibe required, which can be challenging to pull off without being campy. With that said, unfortunately it seems that he's turning out to be a real limited, one-note adult actor. In his new show, the Good Doctor, his character is pretty much just Norman Bates all over again.

R82 Agree completely about Cumberbatch, although I do believe he is talented.

R38 I was on another message board where someone once described Cara Dele-whatever as looking like Helga Pataki from the the 90's cartoon, Hey Arnold. I still laugh when I think about that.

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by Anonymousreply 94July 26, 2017 7:50 AM

Cumberbatch kind of stole Hiddleston's thunder there -- Hiddles clearly intended to go full camp and make a career of it, but then Cumbersome did it too and won awards for it, which has to be galling. I think Hiddles is actually pretty good when he's a campy mess; Cumberbund not so much.

Actor JJ Feild looks just like Hiddleston, strangely enough.

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by Anonymousreply 95July 26, 2017 8:10 AM

[quote]Cara Dele-whatever as looking like Helga Pataki from the the 90's cartoon, Hey Arnold

LOL she does, no lie

by Anonymousreply 96July 26, 2017 8:10 AM

R95 Wow, looks just like a hotter version of Hiddleston.

by Anonymousreply 97July 26, 2017 8:15 AM

Emily Blunt gave one of her best performances outside of Prada in The Girl on the Train.

by Anonymousreply 98July 26, 2017 8:26 AM

Judi Dench. I find her annoyingly one-note as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 99July 26, 2017 10:54 AM

Everyone mentioned in this thread is TREMENDOUS!

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by Anonymousreply 100July 26, 2017 11:42 AM

[quote]Kenneth Branagh. Totally overrated. He's not very handsome and he has no charisma at all.

I agree. He was so overrated.

It was hilarious when they tried to make him into a GQ cover type actor.

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by Anonymousreply 101July 26, 2017 12:17 PM

[quote]Judi Dench. I find her annoyingly one-note as an actress.

Sometimes an actor delivers a performance so good they can do no wrong in my eyes...forever more.

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by Anonymousreply 102July 26, 2017 12:20 PM

The problem with so many British/UK actors is that they look like potatoes. Branaugh is particularly potatoey in r101. It doesn't help when they take themselves too seriously. Hugh Grant managed a comeback precisely because he didn't.

by Anonymousreply 103July 26, 2017 12:21 PM

HG came back? Where did he go?

by Anonymousreply 104July 26, 2017 12:23 PM

The only good and convincing performance Hiddleston ever gave was as Loki. He seems incapable of playing anything else than gay, repressed, campy villans and all his attempts to butch up failed horrible.

by Anonymousreply 105July 26, 2017 2:42 PM

Disagree about John Castle - fantastic in "The Lion in Winter" and "I, Claudius".

by Anonymousreply 106July 26, 2017 2:50 PM

Look to the money, people. British actors have always worked on a lower pay scale than Americans, so when they bring them over here producers have a far easier time negotiating their contracts. British Equity, which covers theatre and all media in the UK, has a contract with film producers that pays a much lower residual rate than the SAG-AFTRA contract. When British actors come over here and find that they make more in residuals than they do over in the UK, it makes them happy, even though SAG-AFTRA residual rates have essentially not budged in something like 25 years. There's a great deal of unrest within SAG-AFTRA among American actors unhappy with the failure of the union to negotiate better rates. American actors are kept in check by the reality that so many jobs are going to foreign nationals.

by Anonymousreply 107July 26, 2017 3:05 PM

I thought "R-Patz" was good in The Lost City of Z. He is better when he's in character roles. In traditional leading man roles he is bland as hell.

I feel the same way about Jude Law.

by Anonymousreply 108July 26, 2017 3:07 PM

Henry Cavill is so fucking pretty, I don't care that he can't really act.

by Anonymousreply 109July 26, 2017 3:11 PM

I feel the same way about Gregg Sulkin.

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by Anonymousreply 110July 26, 2017 3:16 PM

Most young American actors these days are basically underwear models with no formal training, so it's natural that Hollywood is casting Brit and Commonwealth actors, who actually do know how to act.

by Anonymousreply 111July 26, 2017 3:18 PM

Billie Piper Why is she always cast as the beautiful and desirable woman (Penny Dreadful, Secret Diary of a Call Girl) with a face like that?

by Anonymousreply 112July 26, 2017 3:19 PM

Hollywood is all about preying upon the stupid who think they are way more talented that the ones getting the roles only to realize that Hollywood doesn't pick the most talented ones who audition. Then the soul crushing begins and the dream of making it big get destroyed one by one.

by Anonymousreply 113July 26, 2017 4:05 PM

R111, the graduates of Juilliard, Yale, Carnegie Mellon, NYU, etc., might look like underwear models, but they also have the chops to do theatre and anything else that might be thrown at them. I agree with R71 -- they must be homicidal about being shut out of the industry.

by Anonymousreply 114July 26, 2017 4:56 PM

R111 The Hemsworth brood, Cara Devawhatever and Henry Cavill - all Royall Academy of Dramatic Arts graduates, right?

by Anonymousreply 115July 27, 2017 12:33 AM

I am SO over the argument that Brit actors are cast so frequently because their American counterparts lack training.

No, they are not all underwear models. They are often well-trained professionals who could, if they wished, work as underwear models. But they choose not to.

Some Americans love to embrace the tired, outdated myth that there is no real dramatic training in this country. The fact is that training in acting is has never been better or more challenging, and students come from all over the world to study acting in America.

It's a disgrace that so many roles are going to non-Americans. The UK and other countries would never, ever consent to the reverse.

by Anonymousreply 116July 27, 2017 2:07 AM

Looking at the top American stars right now, they're not as good as their Brit/Commonwealth counterparts.

by Anonymousreply 117July 27, 2017 2:09 AM

R115 The Hemsworths are Australian. But, if there was a thread about Australian actors who suck they would be mentioned right away.

by Anonymousreply 118July 27, 2017 2:57 AM

[quote]It's a disgrace that so many roles are going to non-Americans. The UK and other countries would never, ever consent to the reverse.

Yes, they do.

BUT...

Americans don't tend to race to England to further their careers or for big money. But famous American actors all get jobs on the stage in London whenever they want it.

& Gwyneth got a ton of work in England. So does what's her name from the X files and the gurl who did the Bridget Jones Dairies.

by Anonymousreply 119July 27, 2017 3:07 AM

Emilia Clarke and Sienna Miller for sure

by Anonymousreply 120July 27, 2017 3:40 AM

Hugh Grant's best performance was when he went on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno in the 90's and put on his bumbling yet charming shtick he uses on screen when doing PR damage control after he got caught hooking up with a black prostitute in LA. Yeah, it's just like a scene from one of his romantic comedies where the star of the movie makes a mistake, makes the female lead pissed off and think about leaving, but he wins her back in the third act. Reality check. Not charming or cute. He's just a British sleaze who wanted to get his freak on with a street whore like any typical horny douche bag.

by Anonymousreply 121July 27, 2017 4:37 AM

But R119, none of that is anywhere NEAR the scale of what UK & Commonwealth actors have done in Hollywood. How many leads are there in big London stage productions at any given time? If the reverse were true, UK TV would be flooded with Americans. And it isn't.

[quote]British actors have always worked on a lower pay scale than Americans, so when they bring them over here producers have a far easier time negotiating their contracts.

This is important to remember. One of the reasons the dam broke and UK actors started pouring into Hollywood several years ago was because the BBC cut funding for their TV drama production - meaning fewer roles to go around, and less pay. And even minor roles pay far better here than they ever did in the UK.

I don't know if many people here know who Emma Fielding is - she was in Cranford and The Inspector Lynley Mysteries, among other things; a respected British actress who's been working for years. As far as I know she's never made the leap stateside. A while back she did this Q&A for the Guardian in which she discussed a year in the life of her finances, and I was surprised at how little she'd made in a year, despite doing plenty of work - TV, stage, radio. She'd made something like $100,000 that year, working steadily - and she's well-known in the UK, so is doing better than many. If you think of that amount, and the kind of pay UK actors are used to, then imagine them coming here and how little they're willing to work for compared to American actors...you can understand why James Purefoy said UK actors are called 'white Mexicans' in Hollywood. It doesn't have much of anything to do with them being 'better' but cheaper and more pliable and willing to suck up what Americans don't have to.

And r116. I too am particularly incensed by the incredibly shopworn myth that all American actors are untrained. The idea that all Brit actors have exquisite training is bullshit - to use an example from this very thread, Emily Blunt never went to drama school. Many of the younger UK actors that we see have 'training' that consisted of some children's theater as a child and TV shows in their teens - in other words, not much different than a young American actor's experience might be. The days of every UK actor having gone though the rigors of repertory theater are long gone. And this country has a number of very high-caliber drama schools to be proud of. Theater and acting degrees are offered at all sorts of universities here. If Hollywood doesn't want to hire these trained actors, the reasons lie somewhere other than their lack of training and talent.

by Anonymousreply 122July 27, 2017 6:15 AM

R106 has good taste. John Castle was [italic]molto[/italic] sexy!

by Anonymousreply 123July 27, 2017 7:28 AM

Most of the trained actors go a long way because posh people are self-effacing, have lovely manners and are extremely self-confident.

Felicity Jones is fucking boring and has gone a long way on a posh accent, huge eyes and an overbite.

Tom Hiddleston and Eddie Redmayne can act BUT they are both one note and limited. Likewise Tom Hardy.

by Anonymousreply 124July 27, 2017 7:35 AM

The worst has to be Felicity Waterman and she probably makes most if not all of the actors mentioned in this thread look like master thespians in comparison. She was a model in England and moved to the US to pursue an acting career. Not sure where she got her acting training at, but she absolutely sucked. She's probably best known for playing Vanessa Hunt on Knots Landing.

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by Anonymousreply 125July 27, 2017 8:49 AM

R59. Gary Oldman is one of the greatest actors ever. But he lives in LA, so he can't be in this category.

by Anonymousreply 126July 27, 2017 8:59 AM

Sammi Davis lol

by Anonymousreply 127July 27, 2017 9:12 AM

[quote]Billie Piper Why is she always cast as the beautiful and desirable woman (Penny Dreadful, Secret Diary of a Call Girl) with a face like that?

I thought she was cast well as a prostitute who looked hard, ill, and worn out for Penny Dreadful. I'm still not a huge fan but I did like her on PD and somehow I liked the pairing of her with Josh Hartnett's character.

by Anonymousreply 128July 27, 2017 2:43 PM

[quote]John Castle was molto sexy!

So is Henry Cavill.

Castle is just a one-trick pony. All of his facial expressions are minute variations on this smug, sullen aspect.

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by Anonymousreply 129July 27, 2017 3:08 PM

Agree, r124

by Anonymousreply 130July 27, 2017 3:20 PM

[quote]Bridget Jones Dairies

"Bridget, you cow!"

by Anonymousreply 131July 28, 2017 1:21 AM

I forgot her name, but that British chick who was in that horrible Bruce Willis erotic thriller "Color of Night" back in the 90's gave one of the worst movie performances ever captured on film. She made Bruce Willis seem like Richard Burton in the acting department.

by Anonymousreply 132July 28, 2017 2:43 AM

Jane March.

by Anonymousreply 133July 28, 2017 2:46 AM

Jane March - now there's a name of the "Whatever happened to....." variety

by Anonymousreply 134July 28, 2017 2:51 AM

Claire Forlani

by Anonymousreply 135July 28, 2017 3:16 AM

[quote]Most young American actors these days are basically underwear models with no formal training, so it's natural that Hollywood is casting Brit and Commonwealth actors

What's all this reference to 'Commonwealth'?

Never seen it in my life before used in this way.

by Anonymousreply 136July 28, 2017 8:49 AM

Has Hiddleston been mentioned thousands of times on this thread?

Because he should be.

by Anonymousreply 137July 28, 2017 8:56 AM

Some of our best actors (UK) are only on tv and our worst are film stars. I can't stand Carey Mulligan who sucks the life out of any part ditto Emma Watson. Olivia Colman is probably one of the best actors working today her profile/reputation in the UK is far higher than most UK film stars. Billie Piper gets a pass for being in trashy shows because she is very good on stage.

by Anonymousreply 138July 28, 2017 9:19 AM

It's a common stereotype that English actors (even the young ones) are better actors because the UK seems so credible with its costume dramas (like Downton Abbey). Hollywood uses that common perception to legitimize their trash releases (from summer blockbuster movies, like the Transformers, to CW shows).

Cheap labor and a pretense of credibility are the reasons why British actors find jobs in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 139July 28, 2017 9:32 AM

I watched some of Netflix's Gypsy and then a Q and A and every actress on the show is British. I would never have guessed, they all played their parts well even though the show itself is very 90s sexy thriller. So the British director must have cast the show in the UK.

by Anonymousreply 140July 28, 2017 10:03 AM

Cannot believe I've read so many replies that weren't : Tom Hiddleston.

by Anonymousreply 141July 28, 2017 10:08 AM

Hiddleston was quite good, I thought, as Prince Hal in Henry IV, 1 & 2 and Henry V, which were on PBS a couple of years ago. I coveted his jerkin (not a euphemism).

by Anonymousreply 142July 28, 2017 3:27 PM

I liked Hiddleston in The Night Manager.

by Anonymousreply 143July 28, 2017 3:28 PM

I never take DL's negative opinions of actors into account. Most of you hate everyone.

by Anonymousreply 144July 28, 2017 3:30 PM

Jacqueline Bisset. An utterly vacuous presence.

by Anonymousreply 145July 28, 2017 4:14 PM

I find the British actors on Game of Thrones (all except Maisie Williams and Lena Headey) to be severely lacking.

by Anonymousreply 146July 28, 2017 4:21 PM

It's the younger Brit actors in GoT that are on the wooden side. The older veterans give it a color and life that the Emilia Clarkes and Kitt Harringtons can never achieve. Anton Lesser, Jonathan Pryce, Roger Allam, Ciarán Hinds. John Glover, Conleth Hill etc.

by Anonymousreply 147July 28, 2017 4:43 PM

Discounting Hinds, an Irishman.

by Anonymousreply 148July 28, 2017 4:44 PM

And John Glover, an American.

by Anonymousreply 149July 28, 2017 4:52 PM

I think you mean Julian Glover

by Anonymousreply 150July 28, 2017 5:06 PM

[quote] Jacqueline Bisset. An utterly vacuous presence.

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by Anonymousreply 151July 28, 2017 6:07 PM

Emilia Clarke went to drama school.

Kit Harington is classically trained. Hell, he went to the same drama school Judi Dench, Laurence Olivier and Vanessa Redgrave attended.

And so much for Emilia and Kit.

by Anonymousreply 152July 28, 2017 7:03 PM

Yes, but did they do rep?

by Anonymousreply 153July 28, 2017 10:11 PM

Hahahaha R131!

by Anonymousreply 154July 28, 2017 11:59 PM

[quote]What's all this reference to 'Commonwealth'?

It's being used as a shorthand for 'UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia'.

by Anonymousreply 155July 29, 2017 6:52 AM

People, you have got to watch this YouTube presentation "Color of Night - Awfully Good Movies, Bruce Willis, Jane March". It lasts about 10 minutes. It shows scenes from the movie interspersed with a mix mash of off the wall scenes from other movies and TV shows and captions. It's freaking hilarious! I found it when Googling Jane March. She is terrible, but no need to give her too much credit for the movie sucking. It appears Bruce Willis carries a good part of the blame for this shit fest himself. Enjoy!

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by Anonymousreply 156July 30, 2017 4:58 AM

Sophie Turner

Emilia Clarke

Kit Harrington

by Anonymousreply 157August 29, 2017 7:11 PM

Christian Bale

by Anonymousreply 158August 29, 2017 7:15 PM

Hugh Grant is very limited actor

by Anonymousreply 159August 29, 2017 7:16 PM

Orlando Bloom

by Anonymousreply 160August 29, 2017 7:25 PM

R156 Thanks for sharing that video. It really was hilarious!

by Anonymousreply 161August 29, 2017 9:56 PM

Hiddleston isn't THAT bad! Bad is pretty much anyone on Game of Thrones.

by Anonymousreply 162August 29, 2017 10:38 PM

Is Riz Ahmed really as great as so many keep carping about? I think he's pretty good, yet so many of his roles seem really affected. He's trying to be the King of Accents & Dialects.

Not many knew he was British, especially when he did The Night Of. Even though his character Naz was born in New York, with Pakistani immigrant parents, to me, his character sounded like a Puerto Rican from Queens. I know a guy who sounds exactly like Naz. In Riz's GIRLS role, he was from Detroit, yet sounded like a California surfer dude. He mentions always doing meticulous research, yet it seems he's got to figure out exactly where the characters are from and what class they are from. Class is important to an accent and dialect.

The movie he's working on now is a Western, wonder what sort of accent he's 'perfected' for that.

by Anonymousreply 163August 30, 2017 2:20 AM

Kit Harrington seems more natural at comedy, he was surprisingly fun in that tennis parody movie (the name escapes me). He's the British Taylor Lautner.

by Anonymousreply 164August 30, 2017 4:18 AM

Speaking of Lautner....

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by Anonymousreply 165August 30, 2017 4:40 AM

R164, I agree. I've seen Kit in several things now, and he is pretty damned limited in dramatic roles - his American accents are embarrassingly bad as well (check out his Old West twang in Brimstone if you need your eardrums scraped). But 7 Days in Hell is the best I've seen him outside of GOT. He really was pretty funny there.

Sophie Turner's monotonous voice is excruciating to me. She's pretty enough but despite her X-men stuff I'm not expecting a big career for her.

Emilia Clarke is a really mixed bag IMO. She's lovely and charismatic, but has a tendency to be either really flat or really over the top, no happy median. I cringed at her in Me Before You - her director really let her down by not making her dial it down a few notches. Yet I think some of her non-verbal acting in GOT this past season was very good.

by Anonymousreply 166August 30, 2017 6:13 AM

^^Happy MEDIUM, fucking spellcheck...

by Anonymousreply 167August 30, 2017 6:15 AM

[quote] I never take DL's negative opinions of actors into account. Most of you hate everyone.

If [italic]Bedknobs and Broomsticks[/italic] isn't safe from these vicious venomous vipers, then nothing is.

by Anonymousreply 168August 30, 2017 6:17 AM

The title of this thread should be changed to: "British actors who suck cock to get roles."

by Anonymousreply 169August 31, 2017 3:16 AM

Kit Harrington

by Anonymousreply 170August 31, 2017 5:25 AM

r169, do you know something we don't?

by Anonymousreply 171September 1, 2017 12:23 AM

Jesus, what happened to Pattinson? He looked very fine in the HP movie, and then his looks took a sharp turn downhill.

by Anonymousreply 172September 1, 2017 12:44 AM

Tom Holland sucks cock like a champ & loves a good facial at the end. Here's a pic of his getting a load for his 18th bd.

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by Anonymousreply 173September 1, 2017 12:54 AM

Is Tom Holland gay? Is he out?

by Anonymousreply 174September 1, 2017 1:13 PM

R112 Billie Piper Why is she always cast as the beautiful and desirable woman (Penny Dreadful, Secret Diary of a Call Girl) with a face like that?

Have you seen the real Belle de Jour?

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by Anonymousreply 175September 1, 2017 1:21 PM

Orlando Bloom

by Anonymousreply 176September 1, 2017 1:22 PM

Simon Pegg

by Anonymousreply 177September 1, 2017 1:23 PM

Jason Statham

by Anonymousreply 178September 1, 2017 1:23 PM

R174 The last year and a half he lives with his boyfriend Harrison Osterfield. To the world Harrison is his PA (an excuse they use cuz they live together) but to their families, close friends and co-workers, he's out. For more info, there's is a thread about them.

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by Anonymousreply 179September 1, 2017 1:27 PM

Daniel Craig is annoying. One of the many ways in which Daniel is annoying is that he does have ability, and has turned in some good performances but since then, someone's got in his ear and told him, (despite his looks), that he's "sexy". Now his every performance is him, with his lips like a line drawn on in 0.01m pen, trying to pout and speak at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 180September 1, 2017 2:05 PM

{quote]Have you seen the real Belle de Jour?

Yes, doesn't she have huge scar on her face, she's isn't all that.

I like Billie's acting, but I agree, she's not a knockout. She's cute, not beautiful. Billie was married to the hot Lawrence Fox. He has BDF.

by Anonymousreply 181September 1, 2017 3:44 PM

Speaking of Billie Piper.....I saw her in this thing called The Ruby in the Smoke and practically every scene in it would contain a bit of dialogue like this:

"Well, if it isn't the prettiest girl in the world! You are sooooo beautiful"

I do think she's attractive but having pretty much every character fawn over like that was just weird, even Ava Gardner in her prime wouldn't get fawned over that much. I'm not sure if she insisted that the script be written like that (if she does, she has quite an ego) or whoever wrote that script was just in love with her, or a bad writer

by Anonymousreply 182September 2, 2017 1:37 AM

I think she's very talented and liked her in Doctor Who and Penny Dreadful and she won Olivier Award for her performance in Yerma which was described as "earth-quaking" by The Guardian and "a generation's greatest performance" by The Stage.

I do think she was attractive and pretty in Doctor Who but not much after that. she aged so fast.

by Anonymousreply 183September 2, 2017 5:54 AM

Thanks R179

by Anonymousreply 184September 2, 2017 5:56 AM

Gerard Butler

by Anonymousreply 185September 2, 2017 10:10 AM

Definitely Emma Watson. The English Susan Richardson.

And you know I fucking despise Susan!

by Anonymousreply 186September 2, 2017 12:32 PM

Felicity Jones gets a long way on big eyes, a cute overbite and a posh accent.

She is awful in those equally awful Drake Doremus movies and had all the charisma of a surfboard in Rogue One. Even though she was on of the few native English speakers in the cast you wouldn't know it for all the emotional connection she showed. Who did she blow to get the role over Tatiana Maslany?

by Anonymousreply 187September 2, 2017 3:04 PM

How was Billie Piper in City of Tiny Lights? Her co-star was Riz Ahmed consistently gets good reviews in pretty much everything he's in. He is an excellent actor. I enjoy the fact that he always does different dialects and accents.

In City, which I haven't seen yet, Billie played an ex of his character, she reconnects with him. Since Billie has no problem getting naked in most of her roles, did she get naked with Riz? He rarely, if ever, does fully nude scenes. Could be because he's Muslim. In GIRLS, he kept his shorts on during his sex scenes with Lens Dunham.

Riz and Billie at the London City of Tiny Lights premiere, that darker hair on Billie really ages her. I'm so used to seeing her with blond hair.

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by Anonymousreply 188September 2, 2017 5:57 PM

'How was Billie Piper in City of Tiny Lights? '

I haven't seen it.

R187 last week watched A Monster's Call and liked her performance in it. I thought She was good in The Theory of Everything, Doctor Who (guest star) and Tempest and ok in Brideshead Revisited.

by Anonymousreply 189September 3, 2017 4:39 PM

She was apparently incredible in Yerma onstage in London, even won an Olivier Award for her performance.

by Anonymousreply 190September 3, 2017 6:39 PM

I want Yerma on DVD :(

by Anonymousreply 191September 3, 2017 7:01 PM

Piper's acting in Doomsday was amazing

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by Anonymousreply 192September 3, 2017 7:03 PM

Emilia Clarke

by Anonymousreply 193September 3, 2017 7:45 PM

[quote]'How was Billie Piper in City of Tiny Lights? ' I haven't seen it. [R187] last week watched A Monster's Call and liked her performance in it. I thought She was good in The Theory of Everything, Doctor Who (guest star) and Tempest and ok in Brideshead Revisited.

You are talking about Felicity Jones, Billie Piper wasn't in any of the films you listed. Billie certainly wasn't in A Monster Calls or The Theory of Everything.

In case some of you are not aware, Billie also had career as a pop singer. I don't recall Billie ever being promoted outside Europe as a singer, at least not in the US.

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by Anonymousreply 194September 3, 2017 8:51 PM

Felicity Jones was better in The Theory of Everything than Sienna Miller was in anything I've seen her in.

by Anonymousreply 195September 3, 2017 9:40 PM

I like Emma Watson and think she is getting better each time. I do fancy her also, so that could add to it.

by Anonymousreply 196September 3, 2017 10:15 PM

Max Irons

by Anonymousreply 197September 4, 2017 12:13 AM

I don't get the hype about Jude Law, he seems nasty and almost always overacts.

by Anonymousreply 198September 4, 2017 12:24 AM

R194 I know

first part of my post was reply to R188 and second part was answer to R187

by Anonymousreply 199September 4, 2017 8:44 AM

R198 Agree and his shitty Scottish accent in The Black Sea was horrible

by Anonymousreply 200September 4, 2017 8:45 AM

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Jeremy Irons.

Talent-less, pretentious ... British hack

by Anonymousreply 201September 4, 2017 9:08 AM

My problem with Billie Piper is that she gets a lot of period roles, and she always seems wrong in them - there's something too modern about her to play Jane Austen heroines. I remember seeing her in something with all sorts of meticulous costumes, carriages, etc and she fucking had DARK ROOTS.

She shouldn't be cast in anything pre-20th century.

by Anonymousreply 202September 4, 2017 10:16 AM

Irons is wonderful! (Jeremy, that is. Max, not so much.)

by Anonymousreply 203September 4, 2017 10:57 AM

Ewan McGregor and Jude Law got a lot of buzz in the late 90s for being sexy and having good taste in roles. They are by no means bad but the talent was not quite there. They have the careers they deserve as yeomen, and that is quite fair.

by Anonymousreply 204September 4, 2017 11:20 AM

Sienna Miller

Emma Watson

Alan Rickman (everyone loved him but he played the same character over and over - one note actor)

Lily Cole and Cara Delavigne - stick to being models

Mickey Summer

Minnie Driver

Ed Sheehan - had a GOT cameo, was awful

Lily Collins

Michael Gambon

by Anonymousreply 205September 4, 2017 11:38 AM

Look, it's a moot point now. Both sides are making promises they can no longer live up to. The Brits promise to send us their best thesps (they often don't) and we promise to imbue their careers with the kind of glamour, reach and variety than only America productions can provide (suuuurrree).

Most stuff stucks now, no matter what side of the pond you're on. Unfortunately the US is pretty much to blame for this. Why? Because the Brits have basically adopted the American model. It's much more democratic now over there and we're basically the the poorer for it. Young Brits don't want to have to slog through drama school or grind it out as a spear carrier in rep for six years if they don't have to. Keira's parents just got her an agent. Carey Mulligan was rejected from drama school and told she was terrible. At the time, she was attending a posh boarding school and Julian Fellowes came to speak. She approached him afterwards and voila! Redmayne also went to the right schools + is rich and connected. Cumberbatch had famous parents, etc.

The exception to this rule is black actors, who really have benefited from the old system relaxing. And the irony is they are all going to drama school now because they can. It's not exclusively the domain of posh white toffs. So you're getting a lot of strong actors of color now coming from the UK. And a lot of mediocre rich white people.

On our end, we contribute to the problem by taking whatever middling talent they do possess and immediately strangling the life out of it in some shitty Marvel origins story or whatever paint-by-numbers Oscar bait biopic they've been slotted into. We no longer demand talent. It's not even a requirement. What to you need these days? You need to be comfortable spending all your time in the gym or in front of green screens. And when you're not doing that, you've got to be prepared to fly all over the world doing stupid junkets. It's the Gym and Junkets show. Talent is 3% of the equation.

Ours is not a culture that particularly supports and fosters artistic talent*. The Brits are much better at that and always have been. Any money allocated to public school extracurriculars in this county goes to sports. Google the National Youth Theatre and see how much young talent they nurture- especially first generation kids of color who otherwise would *never* have a shot at RADA. This isn't the one requisite end-of-the-year high school production of "Hello Dolly". This is grooming young kids from the earliest age to be able to pursue acting as a vocation when they become adults.

Oh and you say that we've got tons of great drama schools in the US? Well, I'm thinking of the top three right now and one of them-often regarded as the *best* of that group, was started by a Brit.

Training is important. It's never really been as valued in the US as much glamour, luck and grit have. And now it's not as valued as it once was in the UK either. Everyone loses.

* Please don't cite Meisner, Strasberg, Adler or any of those other snake oil peddlers. Although Michael Chekhov is an acceptable answer!

by Anonymousreply 206September 4, 2017 11:39 AM

WW R206. That was not only one of the best and most insightful posts I've seen in this thread, but in all of DL recently.

by Anonymousreply 207September 4, 2017 12:29 PM

Idris Elba. Unwatchable.

by Anonymousreply 208September 4, 2017 12:43 PM

I agree, R207. Bravo, R206.

by Anonymousreply 209September 4, 2017 1:25 PM

R208 At least he's hot and has a good voice

by Anonymousreply 210September 4, 2017 3:30 PM

Sophie Turner

by Anonymousreply 211September 4, 2017 3:41 PM

Nicholas Hoult

Didn't like him in anything after A Single Man

by Anonymousreply 212September 4, 2017 3:42 PM

Gary Oldman

by Anonymousreply 213September 4, 2017 6:38 PM

Mickey Summer? Think you mean Mickey SUMNER, one of Sting and Trudie's kids?

Sting's eldest daughter, from his first marriage to Irish actress Frances Tomelty, Katherine Fuchsia Sumner is also an actress. Both of Sting's wives were in The Royal Shakespeare Company, one assumes then can act. I gather not everyone is accepted there.

by Anonymousreply 214September 5, 2017 2:23 AM

R206 I resent that remark.

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by Anonymousreply 215September 5, 2017 3:31 PM

[quote] Brits have basically adopted the American model. It's much more democratic now over there and we're basically the poorer for it. Young Brits don't want to have to slog through drama school or grind it out as a spear carrier in rep for six years if they don't have to. [...] We no longer demand talent. It's not even a requirement. What to you need these days? You need to be comfortable spending all your time in the gym or in front of green screens. And when you're not doing that, you've got to be prepared to fly all over the world doing stupid junkets. It's the Gym and Junkets show. Talent is 3% of the equation.

^^^R206

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by Anonymousreply 216September 5, 2017 7:10 PM

Just hand me the list of BAFTA nominees for the past two decades.

by Anonymousreply 217September 5, 2017 7:12 PM

R159 musn't forget that we will always pass Hugh for his turn in MAURICE. He was rather well-cast as Clive.

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by Anonymousreply 218September 5, 2017 7:23 PM

Michael Crawford owns this thread; a mugging Jerry Lewis-wannabee without the talent or funny. The "Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em" clips I've seen are positively cringe-worthy. And he was a complete ham in "Phantom of the Opera".

by Anonymousreply 219September 5, 2017 7:29 PM

R214, the one from Frances Ha.

And no, her parents being actors does not ensure her own skill as an actor!

I realize most celebrity children take for granted that the public should accept it as a given that they are as talented/beautiful/interesting as their famous parent(s), but alas, they usually are not.

by Anonymousreply 220September 5, 2017 7:31 PM

R214, And Sting was a terrible actor, too, at least in everything I've seen him in (The Bride, 3 Penny Opera, Dune, even Bring on the Night - so stiff).

by Anonymousreply 221September 5, 2017 7:34 PM

Maggie Smith

by Anonymousreply 222September 5, 2017 7:36 PM

Michele Dockery

by Anonymousreply 223September 5, 2017 7:36 PM

[quote] Emilia Clarke went to drama school.

RADA is something like the Royal Air Force; "you don't have to be a pilot to fly in the RAF" and you don't have to be a talented actor to go to (or indeed pass) Drama School.

It would be better if both admissions and classes were more selective and rigorous, and students attending Drama schools were streamlined according to their abilities as well as interests. Maybe then we'd start to get better-trained and more highly-skilled directors, cinematographers, writers, designers, choreographers and so on as well...

R122 has it right.

by Anonymousreply 224September 5, 2017 7:36 PM

The blonde chick in Girls was really bad at first but then she improved somewhat.

by Anonymousreply 225September 5, 2017 10:39 PM

[quote][R214], the one from Frances Ha. And no, her parents being actors does not ensure her own skill as an actor! I realize most celebrity children take for granted that the public should accept it as a given that they are as talented/beautiful/interesting - as their famous parent(s), but alas, they usually are not.

No one said Sting was an actor! His wives are actresses. He only got those acting roles due to being in one of the most famous bands at the time, The Police. Sting was actually good in his first film, a black & white Indie called 'Radio On".

It's the same for all the other musicians who tried to act, the director, or producers, thought the musicians charisma and talent would translate to acting, it rarely did. I can count a handful of musicians who succeeded as actors, Models on the other hand, have done very well acting, Faye Dunaway, Kim Basinger, Andie McDowell, Cameron Diaz, Angelina Jolie, Diane Kruger, Charlize Theron, Geena Davis, Milla Jovovich, Jaime King, Famke Jensen, Rebecca Romjin, Liv Tyler as well as many other former models.

Sting's kids, the ones who are musicians, are quite good, his lesbian bassist/singer daughter Coco and son Joe are excellent musicians. Nepotism only works when the people involved have talent, getting your foot in the door means little if you can't prove yourself.

by Anonymousreply 226September 5, 2017 11:53 PM

[quote]The blonde chick in Girls was really bad at first but then she improved somewhat.

Jemima Kirke? Her father is a famous rock drummer, Simon Kirke from the bands Free and Bad Company.

I think she was actually the best actress on GIRLS, definitely better and less self conscious then Lens! Jemima was trained as a fine arts painter, as far as I know, she's never taken acting lessons. She's not bad at all for a non-actress.

Her sister, Lola Kirke, is in Mozart in the Jungle. Jemima speaks with English accent, Lola speaks in an American accent. Since Jemima was mostly raised in NYC, I think the Brit accent is more than a bit exaggerated.

by Anonymousreply 227September 6, 2017 12:01 AM

"It would be better if both admissions and classes were more selective and rigorous, and students attending Drama schools were streamlined according to their abilities as well as interests. Maybe then we'd start to get better-trained and more highly-skilled directors, cinematographers, writers, designers, choreographers and so on as well..."

Not sure what RADA is like, but at the best drama schools in America (like Juilliard) the acceptance rate is tiny. It's as hard to get into Juillirad as it is to get into Harvard.

by Anonymousreply 228September 6, 2017 12:34 AM

Forgot Jenna Coleman and Tom Hughes

by Anonymousreply 229September 6, 2017 12:41 AM

Statham

by Anonymousreply 230September 6, 2017 9:27 AM

Tom Hardy and Simon Pegg

by Anonymousreply 231September 6, 2017 9:28 AM

Simon Pegg is funny

Statham is a good call, though

by Anonymousreply 232September 7, 2017 12:40 AM

I like Tom Hughes.

by Anonymousreply 233September 7, 2017 12:43 AM

Ringo Starr worst British actor of all time. Some say worst drummer. Who cares? He's R I N G O!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 234September 7, 2017 1:57 AM

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by Anonymousreply 235September 7, 2017 2:03 AM

Now that he's an "actor" - Harry Styles

by Anonymousreply 236September 8, 2017 1:11 AM

R235 that is what passes as a sex symbol these days? That is one homely man. And he ruined the two minutes of GoT he was in, thanks a lot.

by Anonymousreply 237September 8, 2017 1:33 AM

R226 oh, my apologies!

Now what films were Sting's wives in, again? They're such talented actors -and classically trained! I'm sure they're both in demand, yet I can't think of anything either have been in...

by Anonymousreply 238September 8, 2017 1:37 AM

R238, don't be such any annoying dolt. Before you act superior, do some research.

Go to IMDb to see the list of films and TV series Sting wives have been in. His first wife is actually more of a stage actress, she was in MacBeth with the late Peter O'Toole. Trudie has been a producer many films as well as documentaries, one of her films was actually nominated for an Oscar.

Here's some of Trudie's TV resume, she's been acting since the 1970s: The original Poldark series, Mayor Of Casterbridge, Agatha Christie's Miss Marple: The Body in the Library, The Scold's Bridle, Midsomer Murders, Friends, The Wonderful World of Disney, Love Soup, Empire (not the current series with the same name) and The Vicar of Dibley, to name a few.

by Anonymousreply 239September 8, 2017 4:58 AM

R239 I get that you're a fan of "Trudie." But I've honestly never heard of (let alone seen) any of the things you listed.

To my original point, her daughter is a wooden actor.

Oh and Trudie sounds like a huge phony cunt like her husband. She's had so much plastic surgery, her face looks like a melted candle.

by Anonymousreply 240September 8, 2017 10:19 AM

R240, I'm actually not a huge fan of Trudie at ALL. I was a big Police and Sting fan, it stands to reason I know a lot about Sting and his family. Considering that Trudie was once best friends with Sting's first wife, she's not exactly a likable person. She's a homewrecker.

Most of the series I listed are from the UK, they were aired in the US on PBS as well as on BBCAmerica. When A&E was actually an 'arts and entertainment' network, A&E aired many great Brit mysteries and comedy series. Two of the listed series, "Midsomer Murders" as well as an update of "Poldark" are now currently on PBS. Guess Brit series aren't you cup of tea? You've never heard of the hit NBC series "Friends'?! C'mon!

Trudie had awful plastic surgery, then again, her facial surgeries started as a toddler, Trudie was run over by truck as a baby! She's been getting corrective plastic surgeries for many years. Again, research before commenting.

by Anonymousreply 241September 9, 2017 2:47 AM

R15 'Lan's got an Honorary Degree in Acting from a prestigious British University, don't'cha know. Not bad for a Scally, eh?

by Anonymousreply 242September 9, 2017 4:43 PM

LOL R215 - YING and Yang.

Yeah. AT-J has it ALL over American actors.

Reminds me of an article back in the mid-90s in which Corey Feldman was touting Corey Haim and himself as the next Abbott & Costello, Laurel & Hardy, or Norm & Crosby.

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by Anonymousreply 243September 9, 2017 10:05 PM

[quote]Forgot Jenna Coleman and Tom Hughes

Yeah, Coleman isn't great. I do think she is better than Billie Piper.

by Anonymousreply 244September 29, 2017 6:43 PM

emma what's her name, the one who was in harry porter. shit actress who thinks wayyyy too highly of herself and wont take selfies with fans. Thinks she's hot shit when she's a fucking plain Jane.

by Anonymousreply 245September 29, 2017 6:53 PM

Kit Harington looks as smart as regurgitated cardboard. He has a perpetual looks for stupidity mixed with "punk bitch whiney ass" face. Every time I see his face I just want to smack him in it. Can't act for shit too.

by Anonymousreply 246September 29, 2017 7:06 PM

CHARLIE HUNNAM owns this thread and he also has taken the cake too. He is so fucking dreadful....I hate his "American" accents. They always have a Bostonian sound and not every single America has THAT accent. Also when he is talking (in character in a movie)he tilts his head sideways.....hate this man. In Crimson Peak (God Mia whats her face was just as bad...) his character comes from money....yet he looks and speaks SO unpolished, something that in the Victorian era (where the me movie takes place) would be a real issue.

by Anonymousreply 247September 29, 2017 7:12 PM

R246 but somehow Charlie was very charming as the teen in 'Queer As Folk' (UK). He had his natural Manc accent there.

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by Anonymousreply 248September 29, 2017 7:17 PM

Both Terence Stamp and Malcolm McDowell were rotten hams to me.

by Anonymousreply 249September 29, 2017 7:31 PM

Madonna. Oh, wait, she's Portuguese now.

by Anonymousreply 250September 29, 2017 8:21 PM

literally?

by Anonymousreply 251September 29, 2017 8:25 PM

Kit Harington

by Anonymousreply 252September 29, 2017 8:26 PM

hugh grant. plays the same character over and over again. boring and awful and UGLY!

by Anonymousreply 253September 29, 2017 9:57 PM

GOT cast excl supporting actors

by Anonymousreply 254September 29, 2017 10:00 PM

Nobody mentioned that cunt Danny fucking Dyer? Ya mugs!

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by Anonymousreply 255September 29, 2017 10:16 PM

Richard Armitage is pretty wooden in everything I've seen him in, and sad to say, he lost his looks pretty fast. I second how bad Charlie Hunnam is. I have no idea why he gets these plum roles--he is very bland looking. I think Keira Knightly is really terrible--she was only ever good in her first role as a teenager in Bend it Like Beckham--I have never understood her success, but it's probably over now, thank God.

by Anonymousreply 256September 29, 2017 10:29 PM

[quote]So does what's her name from the X files and the gurl who did the Bridget Jones Dairies.

Gillian Anderson, though born in Chicago, spent a lot of time living in London as a child. She seems to easily go in and out of American and English accents.

"Soon after her birth, her parents moved to Puerto Rico for 15 months, then to London, England. The family relocated so that her father could attend the London Film School. She spent her childhood growing up in north London's Crouch End and Harringay. When Anderson was 11 years old, her family moved again, this time to Grand Rapids, Michigan. They continued to have a flat in London, where she spent her summers. Anderson later said that she has always intended to return to England."

"Anderson is bidialectal. With her English accent and background, she was mocked and felt out of place in the American Midwest and soon adopted a Midwestern accent. To this day, her accent depends on her location, as she easily shifts between her American and English accents. In May 2013, during an interview with BlogTalkRadio, Anderson addressed the matter of her national identity: "I've been asked whether I feel more like a Brit than an American and I don't know what the answer to that question is. I know that I feel that London is home and I'm very happy with that as my home. I love London as a city and I feel very comfortable there. In terms of identity, I'm still a bit baffled."

by Anonymousreply 257September 29, 2017 11:02 PM

"In Crimson Peak (God Mia whats her face was just as bad...) his character comes from money....yet he looks and speaks SO unpolished, something that in the Victorian era (where the me movie takes place) would be a real issue."

He can't do a posh accent, he struggled with that in The Lost City of Z, too.

by Anonymousreply 258September 30, 2017 12:14 AM

^ agree I like Mia but she was really bad

Jenna Coleman

by Anonymousreply 259September 30, 2017 12:59 AM

I've seen Trudie Styler in some TV shows and she is a terrible actress. She probably got her roles the same way she got Sting away from her best friend.

I've also seen Michelle Dockery in sone British TV shows - apart from that Abbey thing. She has given some very good performances. So I know she can act. Maybe it's that hack writer's fault.

by Anonymousreply 260September 30, 2017 3:00 AM

R188, please just stop with your Riz Ahmed fetish. It is beyond pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 261September 30, 2017 3:02 AM

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by Anonymousreply 262September 30, 2017 5:51 AM

Daisy Ridley

by Anonymousreply 263October 2, 2017 8:58 PM

John Boyega

by Anonymousreply 264October 2, 2017 8:58 PM

R248 Charlie Hunnam doesn't have a Manchester accent.

He was born and raised in Newcastle, so has a 'Geordie' accent.

In Queer As Folk UK he sounds like a 'Geordie' doing a bad Mancunian (Manchester) accent. He mispronounces words constantly, though so do many of the cast.

by Anonymousreply 265October 2, 2017 9:22 PM

Tom Hardy is terrible at accents he ruins films for me

and Fassbender can't do accent at all he always speaks with his Irish accent in every film even his Steve Jobs was Irish

not saying they are bad but they both are vastly overrated and far from being the best actor

by Anonymousreply 266October 2, 2017 9:28 PM

I know Fassbender is Irish not British

by Anonymousreply 267October 2, 2017 9:28 PM

Charlotte Gainsbourg in "Melancholia"

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by Anonymousreply 268October 2, 2017 9:31 PM

Sally Hawkins, “Happy-Go-Lucky”

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by Anonymousreply 269October 2, 2017 9:32 PM

Sorry wrong thread :(

by Anonymousreply 270October 2, 2017 9:33 PM

Superman actor

by Anonymousreply 271October 3, 2017 10:06 PM

R255 Dyer has turned in one excellent performance in a 20-year career, total - and it happens to be a gay role. As the delinquent babygay sailor Charlie in BORSTAL BOY (2000) Danny is genuinely beguiling and even affecting. The kiss he shares with Shawn Hatosy in it may be one of the best gay screen kisses ever filmed. So he gets a pass for a stellar contribution to LGB arts.

Comparing his BORSTAL BOY performance to anything since, in particular his current turn in 'EastEnders', is so frustrating because he's obviously capable and just hasn't bothered since the turn of the Millennium (or rather, has been distracted by demons).

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by Anonymousreply 272October 6, 2017 9:13 PM

I haven't read the hole thread so I don't know if she's been discussed but, although she fun to look at, Charlotte Rampling has been playing the same character in everything she's ever done. And, sadly, it's not a very interesting one.

by Anonymousreply 273October 7, 2017 12:48 PM

R273, if you think Charlotte is bad now, you should have seen her when she was young and sexy, same sour expression and dead eyes. She's actually improved!

A very young, very thin Charlotte, with Law & Order's Sam Waterston, don't recognize the other guy to the right.

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by Anonymousreply 274October 7, 2017 1:37 PM

r274 Robie Porter on the set of "Three" 1969.

by Anonymousreply 275October 7, 2017 2:55 PM

THX, I vaguely remember Robie Porter, think he was Australian?

by Anonymousreply 276October 7, 2017 5:58 PM

Yup.

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by Anonymousreply 277October 7, 2017 6:06 PM

Is it a coincidence the male actors mentioned have stank sleeves?

Just asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 278October 7, 2017 6:16 PM

Robie Porter was cute

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by Anonymousreply 279October 8, 2017 12:14 AM

John Boyega

by Anonymousreply 280October 8, 2017 1:07 AM

[quote]CHARLIE HUNNAM owns this thread

Agree. He's awful.

by Anonymousreply 281April 7, 2018 11:14 PM

Sheena Easton is a graduate of the Royal Academy.

by Anonymousreply 282April 7, 2018 11:19 PM

Charlie Hunnam's American accent on Sons of Anarachy was awful most of the time.

by Anonymousreply 283April 7, 2018 11:28 PM

[quote] Despite that, she can be terrifically funny. As demonstrated in Notes, Philomena, Skyfall, Shakespeare in Love, Rage and Cranford.

[quote] And A Room With A View - Eleanor Lavish!

She wasn't funny at all in a single one of those roles. She did have a great campy line in "Notes on a Scandal"--"Someone has [italic]died![/italic]"--but she almost drained it of all humor.

She is just. Not. Funny. She is very good at drama, but that's it.

by Anonymousreply 284April 7, 2018 11:35 PM

I get Sienna Miller and Kate Bosworth mixed up. They’re interchangeable. Miller also wasn’t much in the London CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF.

I saw YERBA a few days ago. Billie Piper is superb in it, and I never cared for her before.

by Anonymousreply 285April 8, 2018 12:10 AM

John Boyega. Just watch the Star Wars table read clips. How he wasn’t fired before shooting started I will never know. His accent was ok, I’ll give him that. His acting was so hammy and over-the-top he reminded me of Forrest Whittaker. I get that it would be difficult to act like your in outer space while filming in front a green screen but it can be done.

Jane Leeves. She was on an episode of MSW and I swear that if I hadn’t recognized her I would have thought it was an American doing a really bad London accent. Never liked her on Frasier either.

by Anonymousreply 286April 8, 2018 12:19 AM

R272. I liked Borstal Boy too and that’s the only time I’ve seen Danny Dy-yah be decent in anything.

Truly terrible fake chav wanna be tough guy.

by Anonymousreply 287April 8, 2018 12:21 AM

Kit Harrington,Henry Cavill,Charlie Hunnam,Jamie Dornan,Orlando Bloom,Gerard Butler

by Anonymousreply 288April 8, 2018 12:47 AM

Isn't Gerard Butler Scottish ?

by Anonymousreply 289April 8, 2018 12:54 AM

Scottish people are also British.

by Anonymousreply 290April 8, 2018 1:03 AM

Jamie Dornan sucks in the Shades movies because it’s awful material.

Try The Fall if you haven’t seen or heard of it. A good drama where he plays a serial killer and Guillian Anderson detective tracking him.

by Anonymousreply 291April 8, 2018 3:45 AM

The entire cast of Hollyoaks.

by Anonymousreply 292April 8, 2018 4:15 AM

[quote]I also feel Judi Dench has an extremely limited range.

I assume you have not seen her on stage.

by Anonymousreply 293April 8, 2018 4:16 AM

[quote]Jamie Dornan sucks in the Shades movies because it’s awful material.

I may be in the minority, but I thought he sucked in that TV show with Gillian Anderson.

by Anonymousreply 294April 8, 2018 4:17 AM

No, Jamie Dornan is awful in everything

by Anonymousreply 295April 8, 2018 3:47 PM

Scottish people are also British. Don't ever say that to a Scot, r290.

by Anonymousreply 296April 8, 2018 4:17 PM

The woman who plays Demelza on Poldark

That show looks like a prolonged hair product ad.

by Anonymousreply 297April 8, 2018 4:29 PM

Jenna Coleman and Tom Hughes make Victoria a chore to sit through. But especially Hughes.

Agree with Kenneth Branagh. One time I was in bed and turned on PBS. Wallander was on. My husband and I were soon in tears of laughter at his strenuous conveyance of angst.

Rupert Penry Jones is limited to playing a well brought up, good looking chap. He could be a good guy or a bad guy — doesn’t matter. He’s Rupert Penry Jones.

by Anonymousreply 298April 8, 2018 4:42 PM

[quote]The woman who plays Demelza on Poldark That show looks like a prolonged hair product ad.

The original Demelza was portrayed by Welsh actress Angharad Rees, she was great. You do realize this is the second version of the Poldark series? The original Poldark was played by Robin Ellis.

Angharad died in 2012, aged 68, of pancreatic cancer. She was married to actor Christopher Cazenove and Sir David McAlpine.

by Anonymousreply 299April 8, 2018 5:52 PM

Jasan Statham, Theo James

by Anonymousreply 300April 8, 2018 8:26 PM

I find Daniel Craig pretty stiff. His James Bond is so stoic, even in the so-called love scenes. I have the movie Logan Lucky in my Watchlist - DC plays an American guy with a Southern accent in this farce. We'll see if he can handle comedy... maybe it will change my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 301April 8, 2018 8:37 PM

[quote]Don't ever say that to a Scot, [R290].

Oh what complete bullshit.

Scotland is still a part of the United Kingdom, and it's not even like they were originally even conquered. Their own king marched down to London to inherit the English throne, joining the two countries.

And even if Scotland ever DOES secede from the UK, Scots would STILL be Brits because "British" refers to the island of Great Britain, which Scotland is a part of geographically. Thus Scots will always be Brits no matter what their political relationship is with England.

by Anonymousreply 302April 8, 2018 8:45 PM

I think you bitches have listed almost every British actor in existence.

by Anonymousreply 303April 8, 2018 9:22 PM

I hate Keeley Hawes, one of Britain’s “national treasures.”

by Anonymousreply 304April 8, 2018 9:25 PM

I agree that Daniel Craig and Rupert-Penry Jones are stiff and boring.RPJ plays the same character in everything,he has one expression and I don't think that I've ever seen him smile.

by Anonymousreply 305April 8, 2018 11:27 PM

I like Keeley Hawes. I wouldn't call her an acting genius, but she's not an embarrassment, either. Penry-Jones is just bland.

by Anonymousreply 306April 8, 2018 11:56 PM

Jamie is a sucky actor (as is Gillian). But he looks great naked so who cares.

by Anonymousreply 307April 9, 2018 12:29 AM

This list just goes to show how subjective good acting really is.

by Anonymousreply 308April 9, 2018 1:28 AM

[quote]Statham

Has Jason Statham ever actually tried to pass himself off as an "actor", though? He's always been an action movie star and seems to not pretend otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 309April 9, 2018 1:49 AM

Anthony Newley

by Anonymousreply 310April 9, 2018 2:22 AM

Agree with most of these. Glad to see Charlotte Rampling on the list. Fassbender did 'Hunger'. Fantastic, He can act.

by Anonymousreply 311April 9, 2018 3:00 AM

Luke Evans - so overrated

by Anonymousreply 312April 9, 2018 3:02 AM

I like Luke

by Anonymousreply 313April 9, 2018 3:20 PM

James Norton. Tom Bateman.

by Anonymousreply 314April 9, 2018 4:31 PM
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