She looks so... plain in her wedding photos
Did Elizabeth Montgomery get plastic surgery before bewitched?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | February 12, 2019 9:55 AM |
60s fashion transformed a lot of 50s frumps into beauties.
Vanessa Redgrave >1958
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 5, 2017 11:28 PM |
But it wasn't just that... there's something else and I can't put my finger on It
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 5, 2017 11:33 PM |
Better eye make-up.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 5, 2017 11:35 PM |
Her face thinned out.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 5, 2017 11:40 PM |
Lost the baby fat
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 5, 2017 11:50 PM |
Witchcraft, you fey fools!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 5, 2017 11:52 PM |
Then, as now, every fucking actress in the LA basin had a nose job.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 5, 2017 11:54 PM |
I don't think Liz touched her nose r8.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 5, 2017 11:57 PM |
She was really young and baby faced and didn't have a camera ready full face of make up.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 5, 2017 11:57 PM |
R8 I always wonder where they get the money cause rhinoplasty' is usually about 8k and most wannabe actresses are broke.... am I the only one seeing the disconnect? Lol
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 5, 2017 11:57 PM |
Woah... the brunette hair looked STUNNING on her
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 6, 2017 12:05 AM |
If no nose job, then it's a combination of normal aging, weight loss, and huge changes in hair in and makeup.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 6, 2017 12:14 AM |
[quote]Lost the baby fat
[quote]Her face thinned out.
[quote]She was really young and baby faced
She doesn't look like she had anything done. Like others have said, she lost the baby fat.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 6, 2017 12:15 AM |
[quote] Woah... the brunette hair looked STUNNING on her
Yes, and the rest of her looked pretty good too.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 6, 2017 12:30 AM |
She looks the same to me.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 6, 2017 12:32 AM |
Eww
Pointy eyebrows
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 6, 2017 1:07 AM |
No way that's Marlo Thomas. OMFG.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 6, 2017 1:13 AM |
I always loved her on Bewitched, I was really glad to hear that she was supposed to be a really sweet lady.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 6, 2017 1:33 AM |
Liz with dark hair in 1960 on "The Untouchables." She got her first Emmy nomination for this performance.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 6, 2017 3:04 AM |
She had a very subtle nose job.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 6, 2017 3:07 AM |
No, she didn't, R24.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 6, 2017 3:08 AM |
Looks like the same features with better makeup. Her father was the handsome actor Robert Montgomey. She has his nose.
50s makeup and hair and clothes were NOBODY'S friend. Who came up with that uglification? Some misogynist?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 6, 2017 3:27 AM |
I'd say her chin seems to project slightly better than in the "before", but maybe it's just aging. Sometimes having wisdom teeth extractions cam improve somebody's looks for the better.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 6, 2017 3:42 AM |
She got a better hair style and lightened it. She was also happy and fulfilled as a new mother when Bewitched started, she still had a lot maternity weight on her then.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 6, 2017 4:11 AM |
It looks to me like she had a refining tip plasty-very subtle but there. I used to be in love with her as a kid. She was sooo preety.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 6, 2017 4:32 AM |
Definite nose job.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 6, 2017 4:40 AM |
If she did get a bit of work done it was damn good work!
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 6, 2017 4:50 AM |
There are some women who become more attractive and interesting as they mature. Not to put too fine a point on it, getting fucked on a regular basis confers a certain liveliness and vivacity that young girls with their blank faces just don't have.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 6, 2017 5:58 AM |
"Not to put too fine a point on it, getting fucked..."
How fine a point do you think she was getting?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 6, 2017 6:05 AM |
The difference is all down to better styling, lighting and makeup.
I see no evidence at all of plastic surgery, and to be frank, she didn't need it: she was very pretty to begin with, all she needed was better styling. Ta-da!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 6, 2017 6:30 AM |
I am bingeing on Bewitched’s first season now. I didn’t realize what a great show it was! Some episodes are duds, but especially the first several are relevant *right now.* One of them was basically #witcheslivesmatter and another fits perfectly in the #metoo era. Fascinating.
Montgomery was pretty, beautiful and adorable. She also pulled a lot of silly faces a la Lucille Ball.
Many of these episodes revolve around beautiful models (more glam than Samantha in all cases) flirting aggressively with Darrin. I can’t help wondering how different the show would have felt had producers cast a male lead as attractive as Montgomery; then these storylines would have felt threatening to the marriage instead of like little annoyances for Samantha and fun for us.
Everything about this series was really smart from the beginning.
I also didn’t remember Endora the way she comes across to me now. Not having seen Bewitched since childhood, I remembered Endora as a troublemaker and a trickster who hated Darrin, but her role now seems to be that of a pretty astute observer of ridiculous human nature. “What fools these mortals be!” Indeed.
One question I have: In the show, Endora called human beings human beings at first, but then changed to “mortals,” which implies the witches are immortal. But the witches obviously age based on Endora—and especially based on Aunt Clara, who is senile and losing her powers. So do the witches actually die at some point, or just slowly degrade into eternity? Hmmmm
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 27, 2018 10:48 AM |
In an early episode, Darrin discovered a portrait of Samantha back in Salem and realizes she is at least several hundred years old. He asks how old she is and she refuses to tell him. She tells him how old he thought she was when they married. He guesses 22, and then when she says no 24.
!!!
Montgomery was 31 IRL, and Darrin was 36 if he were the same age as Dick York. Did Darrin really think he married a 22 year old, or was he being “polite” when guessing his wife’s age? That’s pretty creepy if he thought he married someone 22 years old at 36.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 27, 2018 10:54 AM |
The wedding picture is flat, natural lighting. The second is studio lighting and professional makeup, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 27, 2018 10:57 AM |
Did you know if you are in Chrome and you right click the OP's image and do a "search for image on Google," it comes back with
[quote]Best guess for this image: elizabeth montgomery before she died
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 27, 2018 11:21 AM |
I remember this old thread and the people insisting she didn't have a nose job, but she did. Here's a portrait from roughly 1960, after the nose job:
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 27, 2018 11:31 AM |
I just saw an interview with her in which she said she was a bad mother but hoped she got better over time. Why hasn’t there been a movie about this?? Mommie Dearest + magic!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 27, 2018 11:35 AM |
No, she didn't.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 27, 2018 5:30 PM |
Like the poster above said
She got her father's nose and his chin
by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 28, 2018 11:02 PM |
It's all makeup, better angles, and good lighting. Don't see the nosejob. Who else ordered a martini at 21 because of this show?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 28, 2018 11:18 PM |
It's putting those lashes in the corner of her eyes to open them up, and losing weight. A lot of women pretend actresses weren't required to be skinny until present day times, but that's a joke. Going back 100 years they lost weight to be stars. Look at Carole Lombard in Mack Sennet comedy shorts (about 15 lbs heavier than at her stardom), Joan Crawford - everybody. Normal sized women had to lose weight so their faces would look the right way on camera - big eyes, full lips, cheekbones, nothing else. When you are skinny your jaw is refined. The little bit extra weight makes the jaw thicker.
I used to think Princess Grace gained a LOT of weight after she married Rainer, but ten years later it was maybe "only" 10-15 pounds but it made her matronly on camera.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 28, 2018 11:23 PM |
R37, but that was typical of the sitcoms back then. I'm only surprised Samantha didn't confess to being younger than 22, the way Laura confessed to Rob she was younger than he thought. There's an episode where she admits she lied about her age by two years - I can't remember the exact ages, but she was blubbering "Oh Rob!" and he was "There there, instead of marrying a 22 year old woman, I married a 24 year old hag - it's ok honey!" and she's like "Nooooooo." and he says, "I married a 19 year old GIRL?" and he was meant to be in his 30s.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 28, 2018 11:26 PM |
Her husband has a weird, gummy smile. ICK!!!
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 28, 2018 11:30 PM |
R48 According to something I read, her husband (Dick York) lost all his teeth not long after he left the show. He had to quit because of a serious back injury that made it impossible for him to work. He and his wife ended up cleaning houses for a living because he couldn’t get any auditions, and he was on major painkillers that rotted his teeth and caused an addiction. Years later it turned out he WAS called for auditions, but his agency for some reason never told him. Later in life he got the pain under control and returned to acting.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 28, 2018 11:36 PM |
In the old pics I see the family resemblance to her WV cousin I went to college with.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | February 28, 2018 11:47 PM |
Laura lied about being 19 and was actually 17 which probably would not fly today. The marriage was considered void and they remarried in secret acknowledging that technically Richie was a bastard [while not saying the actual word]. I am surprised the Richie joke made it on the air, but the show did occasionally try to stretch the boundaries. I think the episode where Rob thought there was a baby switch at the hospital and the other family turned out to be black met some network resistance.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 28, 2018 11:50 PM |
Many young women in their 20s grow into their full beauty as they mature. Elizabeth Montgomery was among them; she grew even more beautiful into her 30s. It’s the same with many men, though most men look best in their 30s and their 40s.
I adored Elizabeth Montgomery, I loved Bewitched and her made for television movies. She was positively marvelous as Lizzie Borden.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 28, 2018 11:51 PM |
R4 has it correct. It's the difference of having versus not having eye make-up. That includes using false lashes. Makes a tremendous difference. Look at Tina Louise below in full 50s make-up compared to the one below that and you can see how much more flattering the make of the mid-60s was to most women. The paler lips with more emphasis on the eyes is IMO a better look.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 1, 2018 12:06 AM |
Where do you guys watch the Bewitched episodes?
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 1, 2018 12:10 AM |
Amazon, R55. I paid for the first season ($20) and felt kind of dumb about it, but most are really great and there are THIRTY SIX episodes in the season. And each one is 25 minutes. Times have changed things a lot...season 1 of Modern Family was 24 eps, 22 min each.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 1, 2018 12:14 AM |
Like many of her peers Elizabeth Montgomery did lots of small roles on television (Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Thriller, Twilight Zone, etc..) early in her career. All of them pretty much until Bewitched (or close) she was her natural brunette.
This is one reason Samantha was so convincing looking as "Serena"; the dark hair was her natural coloring so it really didn't set off any alarms.
As for that Bewitched episode where Darrin gets into a funk about Sam's age and the process of aging for witches that means she will still look the same in thirty years..... From the start it struck me as odd when Darrin claimed not to know how old Sam was supposed to be in human years anyway. After all they had to apply for and receive a marriage license where Sam would have had to write down something.
It is like Darrin asking Endora's last name when they first meet. The whole time they were dating Darrin never asked Sam for her full name? He didn't look at the marriage license?
While am on a Bewitched roll a bit of information. Only the stars of show (Samantha and Darrin) received wardrobe courtesy of the studio. Every other actor wore their own clothing. Things were brought in before an episode was shot, they would then be cleaned/pressed and that was "wardrobe".
There was a piece of jewelry (broach? not sure) that Endora always wore. It belonged to Agnes Moorehead who left it to Elizabeth Montgomery after she died.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | February 12, 2019 9:55 AM |