Michael Jackson and The Pepsi' Kid

The Safechucks joined the Bad entourage in Paris at the close of June 1988. It was very soon after their arrival, James says, that the sex started.

Jackson’s Hotel de Crillion suite was described, eerily, as “dark” when Jackson made his first move on ten-year-old Jimmy. In court papers filed later, it was revealed that this first act involved 29-year-old Jackson “teaching [Jimmy] how to masturbate— Jackson often told Jimmy that the boy was the sexual aggressor in their relationship, not Jackson, with sayings like, “You’re teaching me,” and “This was your idea, remember?”) according to James, he regularly shared a bedroom and a bed with Jackson thereafter for the rest of the Bad tour.

With the masturbation accomplished ,another cardinal rule among Jackson’s ‘special friends’ — Jackson had the young boy hooked into his Neverland world, leading him to believe that sex between the two “were ‘acts of love’ and instigated by James himself, rather than Decedent.”

James recounts that after this initial intimacy, the abuse increased not only in frequency but also in variety. On another occasion during the Bad tour, Jackson and Jimmy engaged in a sex act redacted in his pleadings but one which Jackson “referred to … as ‘selling me some’.” ,James says Jackson would “give James jewelry after [James] did this, as a ‘reward’.”

Jackson used secretive code language of “duck butter” for semen, “bright light, brick city” for an erect penis, and “scratch[ing] the inside of Plaintiff’s hand with one of Decedent’s fingers” as a “sexual cue”

When the Bad tour ended, Jackson’s interest in Jimmy had not. In wanting to maintain the connection built since the consummation of their friendship back at the Hotel de Crillion, Jackson took it upon himself to send for James, alone, to be with him whenever he was away from California. One such trip was to New York City following Jackson’s February 1989 Grammy Awards performance. James recalls that on these out-of-town visits, Jackson would sexually abuse him in their shared hotel room bed.

At some point, Jackson — perhaps in an agitated state of infatuation with Jimmy Safechuck and needing to solidify his hold over his ‘special friend’ — held a secretive wedding ceremony and married Jimmy, “complete with a wedding ring and a signed document.” James says in his Complaint that Jackson referred to their union as a “faux committed relationship” that had to stay between them only and required monogamy, at least on Jimmy’s end.

Jimmy was the first guest to stay overnight at the Ranch, but before its amenities and typical features had been added. There was “no large ‘Neverland Ranch’ sign, only the main house, pool, and a trampoline,” James recalls of the then threadbare mansion “Decedent eventually installed chimes in the hallway to his bedroom so that he could hear and be warned when people approached. Decedent later installed video cameras.”

Though the boy was slated to sleep in the upstairs Shirley Temple bedroom, he did not. James recalls he and Jackson “would ‘mess up’ the upstairs bedroom to make it look as though Plaintiff slept there,” apparently in an attempt to disguise their bed-sharing from Jackson’s chambermaids.

Mark Quindoy, who, alongside his wife Faye, worked at the Ranch from May 1989 to August 1990, recounted that when cleaning Jackson’s bedroom he noticed the upstairs Shirley Temple bed never looked slept in. He concluded Jimmy was sleeping with Jackson.

On two other occasions ,marked off as June 25, 1989 and May 5, 1990 in Quindoy’s diary — the Ranch manager wrote down that he’d seen Jimmy’s underwear on the floor near Jackson’s bed.

Quindoy would later record an actual sex act in a diary entry dated August 12, 1989, in which he observed Jackson and Jimmy standing up in the Jacuzzi embraced “like they were newlyweds”, he writes, with Jackson fondling Jimmy’s genitals beneath the boy’s swim trunks).

As an exercise of how well his boy had adhered to the programming, Jackson regularly had Jimmy run what Jackson coined “drills”, in which Jimmy would “practice putting on his clothes very fast and practice running away quietly so people would not hear him.”

Jimmy' best friend Luke Martinez tagged along on several visits, and during one overnight stay while the boys enjoyed a “slumber party and game-type activities” with Jackson, Jimmy and Jackson would discreetly “‘sneak off’ to be alone”. Away from Luke in some secluded spot at the Ranch, sexual abuse would occur, James remembers. Luke never found out why his two sleepover buddies had slipped away; Jimmy and Jackson “were always careful when other people were around.”

In spite of his efforts to keep Jimmy quiet about the sex, Jackson didn’t completely trust the eleven-year-old’s ability to stay mum. He was paranoid, as James remembers it; he’d even fired a limousine driver whose job it was to chauffeur the boy between the Safechuck home and Jackson’s residences, simply because the woman “had asked [Plaintiff] questions about Decedent…. After that, Decedent started driving over to Plaintiff’s house himself to pick him up and drop him off for visits,” the Complaint says. Jackson had grilled Jimmy about his talks with the driver, but apparently considered it a safer bet to send her off to the unemployment line.

With Jackson’s acute fear of discovery, his campaign of brainwashing Jimmy , instilling fear within the eleven-year-old that “if anyone found out what they were doing, ‘their futures would be over’” — made the boy “careful to make sure that no one found out.”

“He also told James that he did not have to answer questions about what they did …. If the police ever told him that the Decedent had ‘already confessed,’ they were lying and trying to trick James,” the Petition says.

But Jimmy’s lies didn’t bother Jackson. When Jackson told the boy “it was okay to lie to other people because nothing would happen if you did,”

James recounts that while he and Jackson engaged in sexual activities, Jackson would trigger a flashbulb set up behind his bedroom window curtain “to resemble a camera bulb flashing.” Jimmy, who’d jokingly been informed by Jackson that paparazzi were snapping photos of them in the act, cried at the trick, and “Decedent was surprised by his reaction.”

"Jackson teased the boy he claimed to love with this prank on both the Bad tour and at Neverland", James remembers.

At ten, Jimmy noticed the opposite sex. But Jackson wasn’t too pleased with the nature of those kinds of things and became upset upon finding out that, beyond their secretive Neverland world, Jimmy had been taken ‘off the market’ by a little school-aged girl. “When Plaintiff was in the fourth grade, he had a ‘girlfriend’,” says his Complaint. “When Decedent found out, he told Plaintiff he could only have a relationship with him.”

As James remembers it, Jackson was “jealous of Plaintiff’s attraction to females and any relationships with females that he had.” Monogamy, apparently, was another important rule Jackson stressed for his ‘special friends’ and ‘Rubbas’.

Jackson was comparatively more vindictive about the boy’s “crush” on then Bad tour back-up singer Sheryl Crow. Jackson’s plan to hoard his boy’s ardor involved bombarding Jimmy with photographs Jackson himself had taken of Crow without makeup, all in effort to convince the boy that the blond singer was simply too ugly and, therefore, undeserving of his boyhood fantasy-affections.

Jackson enjoyed pointing out women’s “physical flaws”, James says , allegedly virile-masculine comments about women’s looks. James recalls that being around Jackson caused him to question whether he was gay, like Jackson seemed to be.

With Jackson’s efforts to confound James’s sexuality with misogynistic jabs about women being “smart, conniving, and not to be trusted”. “On one occasion,” James’s Complaint says, “Decedent had Plaintiff secretly listen in on a telephone call between Plaintiff’s mother and aunt where Plaintiff’s mother had said something negative about Plaintiff’s father…. Decedent stated: ‘Look how mean women are.’”

“Decedent frequently told Plaintiff that he would need to get married to protect his public perception,” the Complaint says.

Spanning four years from 1988 to 1992 when James Safechuck was age ten to fourteen, he and Michael Jackson allegedly engaged in sex acts well “over 100 times” following that first encounter in Paris.

When the Safechuck parents later gave Jimmy a “sex education discussion”, the boy was regrettably well practiced in the art. This physical component of he and Jackson’s ‘friendship’, James says, quickly became normal and routine as it would’ve been with any other couple except, of course, for the fact it was illegal ‘lovemaking’ between a man and a boy". Though the specific details of these acts — and the charging statutes supporting them — have been redacted from James’s court filings, he alleges that beyond those initial engagements during the Bad tour, Jackson sexually abused him at all of the star’s dwellings: at Neverland Ranch, at Jackson’s Westwood, Los Angeles, condo in the Westford building on Wilshire Boulevard, and at his aptly-named “Hideout” in Century City.

At the Ranch, James recalls Jackson’s ‘closet within a closet’ the mythologized ‘secret room’ used by the original owners of the Ranch to store expensive fur outerwear. Jackson not only kept jewelry within this closet, but also used it as a secluded place to molest the boy. In a larger closet located on the other side of his two-story bedroom, James remembers the star would lay a blanket down on the floor in preparation for the abuse, to make for “more room to engage in sexual activities with Plaintiff.”

At Jackson’s secretive Hideout, the two drank alcohol and looked at pornography. Some of the material were explicit “foreign books” of adults engaged in sex acts; some were movies. James says Jackson divided these latter ‘films’ into two categories. “Porn” was heterosexual and adult; other movies, “in which children were masturbating”, Jackson insisted the images were “not really porn”.

Away from the hectic pace of the Bad tour, Jimmy Safechuck was Michael Jackson’s constant companion from 1989 – 1991 back home at Neverland. The pair were frequently spotted together on shopping sprees at costume stores, magic shops, and The Sharper Image, including, as James remembers, the famous Zales jewelry store trip in May 1989. They were shopping for rings, the disguise Jackson wore frightened store merchants in mostly-white Simi Valley, who then called the police.

But between 1990 and 1991, simultaneous with Jimmy entering puberty, Jackson began a “transition” phase with the twelve-year-old. He warned the boy that he would “have other friends” in addition to Jimmy, and that Jimmy would be “‘seeing [Decedent] with other people’ and that they would continue ‘later on’”

By 1992, Brett Barnes’s star was rising, an intrusion that saddened young teenaged Jimmy Safechuck. Brett was nearly four years younger and had already began sleeping with Jackson in Jackson’s bed by the end of the first week of his very first stay at Neverland the prior year. James says he “inwardly became jealous of Brett because of the time and attention Decedent began devoting to him instead of Plaintiff.”

A vain attempt by the thirteen-year-old to befriend newly ten-year-old Barnes and “[be] extra nice” around Jackson didn’t alleviate the prospect of or the boy’s distress over the impending ‘break-up’ — Jackson was losing interest fast. When bedtime rolled around one weekend evening while Jackson, Jimmy, and Brett were at Jackson’s Hideout apartment, Jackson and Brett retired together behind Jackson’s bedroom door, while James was left to sleep alone on the sofa.

But for Jimmy, though willing and compliant after years of Jackson’s grooming, it would all end, cruelly, in April-May 1992 during Jackson’s “Jam” music video shoot in Chicago. Brett and his mother accompanied Jackson while the video was. Wade Robson was there to dance for the video.

James, now fourteen, arrived later to the set from Washington, D.C., a trip Jackson had organized and funded for the teenager. By all accounts James’s included if Jackson wasn’t working on the video, he devoted his time to Brett Barnes.

James knew, however. Brett Barnes slept with Jackson in Jackson’s hotel room, and, as he had when the three of them were together at the Hideout, Jimmy was consigned to a room alone. He was jealous and the rejection was upsetting.

James remembers — he cried about it. Jackson was annoyed. “Decedent saw Plaintiff crying,” James’s Complaint says, “and within one-two days afterwards, Plaintiff was told by Bill Bray, Decedent’s longtime head of security/bodyguard, that he was going to be sent home, and the next day Plaintiff was on an airplane returning to California several days earlier than his scheduled departure.”

James says the sexual abuse stopped completely as Jackson became more interested in his ‘special friendship’ with Brett Barnes. Call frequency diminished.

Jackson’s disinterest in Jimmy was also testified to by the French couple Philip Lemarque and Stella Marcroft In an interview dated August 28, 1993 Philip and Stella mentioned Jimmy:

STELLA: Yes. [Jimmy Safechuck] was there very often, but then he got too old and stopped coming to the ranch. PHILIP: He would call all the time, but Michael would say, “Tell him I’m not here.” Then he’d smile about it. PI: A sinister reaction. That’s dark and cold.

But in 1993, when Jackson was accused of child molestation by Jordie Chandler, his most recently acquired ‘special friend’, he would need all of his previously cast-aside boys, and desperately so.

Jimmy Safechuck, then fifteen, did not speak on television but was led by Jackson in the direction of his dream-team of lawyers. Jackson had groomed the Safechuck family into believing that “the claims were a complete extortion attempt by the Chandler family,” the Petition says. “Claimant’s parents believed Decedent, convinced that he could do no wrong.” It was decided: they would help.

Jackson’s long-standing insistence on secrecy about the sex proved effective on fifteen-year-old Jimmy. After meeting “with one of Decedent’s lawyers at his office … and [rehearsing] trial questions and testimony,” the boy went on to deny the abuse, as he’d been long conditioned to do, at a civil trial deposition organized by Chandler attorney Larry Feldman in November 1993.

December 11, 1993 article in the now-defunct British newspaper Today wrote that Jimmy was damaged by having been “put on a pedestal” by Jackson and later knocked from it by newer ,cited police and court files noting that Jimmy was “a little screwed up in the head” because of Jackson’s sudden abandonment.

Jackson continued to support the boy financially, the documents assert. He funded weekend filmmaking and directing lessons for James with professors and people in the industry, whom James names in his papers, which were a part of Jackson being there “to get [the Plaintiff’s] foot in the door.” James used the cover name “Jimmy Andrews” while working on Jackson’s 1994 HIStory teaser and 1995 video for “Earth Song”.

Then, at age 17, after these brief connections with his former friend, James’s ‘special friendship’ with Jackson all but vaporized .It was as he attended community college that James started to suffer from panic attacks and anxiety. When an attack would strike him, such as one time during a Spanish tutoring session, he had to excuse himself from wherever he was until he was calm and settled enough to rejoin the activity interrupted by the fear response. James says he had no idea what was wrong with him.

His strong suit wasn’t in filmmaking but in academics. However, with Jackson’s own single-minded interest in film — an interest he also impressed upon Wade Robson and later his son Prince Jackson , James alleges that his “unsophisticate d” parents were lead to believe Jackson’s promises of James’s success in the movie business:

"Decedent told Plaintiff’s parents that he did not need to go to college, and convinced them to remove him from his Advanced Placement (“AP”) classes…. In conversations with the Decedent about dropping AP classes, Plaintiff’s mother stated that her son would end up doing what the Decedent was doing in his career, to which the Decedent agreed, stating that day would come, and when the Plaintiff became a filmmaker, there would be a “line around the block” to see him"

Farcically and with zero self-awareness, Jackson called James, then in his mid-20s, several times throughout the 2nd molestation case, in an attempt to get James on the stand to “deny everything that the cooks at Neverland said that they saw happen between Decedent and him,” his Petition says.

On the first call, Jackson tried to soften James with chat about wanting to assist him with music, directing, and film; when James was a teen, Jackson had promised that “one day, we’re going to make movies together.” Jackson then made the request for James to testify in his defense; James declined.

Jackson became enraged, the Complaint says, and threatened his former ‘special friend’. James told Jackson “never to call him again, and that he wanted a normal life.” Jackson grew angrier at this, James remembers, and escalated his threats — he told James he’d “get [him] for perjury” for statements James had made under oath as a fifteen-year-old at his November 1993 deposition. When the call concluded, James began to panic, his court filings say. He dreaded what his mother could learn about the aspect of he and Jackson’s relationship the star had made him keep secret.

Though Mark Quindoy died before getting to testify about what he’d seen on August 12, 1989, when Jackson caressed and fondled eleven-year-old Jimmy in the Neverland hot tub, chambermaid Blanca Francia was very much alive. She’d worked for Jackson long enough to see his boys from Spence through Culkin before quitting in 1991. She claimed to have seen Jackson and Jimmy in one of the ‘cancer-kids’ bedrooms in the Neverland theater, both shirtless with their waists and legs covered in a blanket.

James told his mother about the telephone call with Jackson, saying he would not testify for Jackson and that the star was a “bad man” ,a vague descriptor that no doubt confused his mother, who, like other members of the Safechuck family, believed Jackson “could do no wrong.” In explaining his sudden and surprising rejection of Jackson to his mother but still sparing her the grimy particulars, James “was unable to tell her any details or say anything but the briefest statement that he had been abused.”

Jackson later called Mrs. Safechuck himself. He asked the mother not only to convince James to change his mind about testifying but also if she and her husband would give under-oath testimony in his defense. Mrs. Safechuck kept her son’s secret, and apparently neither of the parents took Jackson up on his request.

Jackson’s lawyers and longtime assistant Evvy Tavasci made the second call to James, but he rebuffed their pleas by stating he wanted nothing more to do with Jackson.

OP How many of these Jackson threads are you going to post? What the deal with your obsession?

The final call from Jackson, James remembers, seemed “rehearsed”, with Jackson’s tone reminding James of all the listening devices attached to phones at Neverland Ranch. It occurred near the end of the trial, He apologized, James remembers, telling James he was “sorry for not being there for [the Plaintiff].” James suspected the phone call was being recorded and “the very sound of Decedent’s voice made him very uncomfortable and put him into panic mode.”

Jackson pressed, saying Gavin Arvizo — as he’d said about Jordie Chandler over a decade earlier — was only interested in money, but James resisted. He told Jackson “never to try to call or try to talk to him ever again” and hung up.

For James Safechuck, the boy Jackson really had ‘thrown away’, his former friend’s passing in 2009 left him conflicted. He “felt sad” at the realization that he and Jackson would never be able to have a “normal relationship” and that “his experiences with Decedent would never be resolved.”

"In spite of the abuse and the ugly note on which they last left, there were still pangs of guilty longing for the man who’d taken ten-year-old Jimmy’s innocence in order to rekindle his own — James had, in fact, “deeply loved and idolized” Jackson.

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1988 Michael Jackson Pepsi commercial with James

I recall reading somewhere that Corey Feldman was unceremoniously dumped by Jackson as well, and felt hurt at the time. But in Corey's case I believe it was because MJ realized he wasn't going to "get" with him. The Hollywood pedos had already gotten to Corey by then, so he was probably damaged goods to MJ. Corey would have been too sophisticated and not as easy to woo as the more innocent boys he threw Corey over for. That's why I believe Corey Feldman when he says MJ never touched him, but I think he's still in denial that MJ messed with other boys.

Why are you obsessed with this, OP? we already have a few ongoing threads started by your copy paste job.

Thanks OP. It was a fascinating read, but really sick. I never knew the lengths he went to to molest little boys. I knew he was a serious pedophile but the disgusting code words, the level of grooming, practice drills, the heinous parents eventually relenting and selling their sons in such a casual manner It pisses me off that the media knew and all his celebrity friends knew and did nothing about it.

Though at 14 the teenager knew it was wrong and should have stopped it. I suspect at the end he enjoyed it and loved the money and attention and prostituted himself out.

" held a secretive wedding ceremony and married Jimmy, “complete with a wedding ring and a signed document.” James says in his Complaint that Jackson referred to their union as a “faux committed relationship”

Oh, dear!

And then MJ threw him over for a younger boy. Stopped taking his calls and being his name"friend" entirely. The mental cruelty was as bad as the physical abuse.

OP gets off on the abuse details and wants you to enjoy it, too. Sick.

Jackson was a master manipulator no doubt.

If he did half the things alleged in this book he belonged in jail for the rest of his life.

Instead he lived completely free and rich, until his untimely death in 2009.

R20 and worshiped by a cult of crazed stans

"Jackson pressed, saying Gavin Arvizo — as he’d said about Jordie Chandler over a decade earlier — was only interested in money, but James resisted. He told Jackson “never to try to call or try to talk to him ever again” and hung up."

Jacko had some nerve. Glad James refused to defend him in 2005 and came out with the truth finally. Late better than Never.

No wonder most of the kids involved with Jacko are fucked up like Macaulay Culkin and Aaron Carter

And God only knows who else!

Poor kid!

R19 The OP always posts like this about a variety of people and topics, so he isn't trying to be a sick fuck. Yes it was disturbing but I'm the glad the OP posted it because now more people know what he was like.

Every one of those boys who testified told the exact same story. Jackson was clearly a pedophile and guilty as hell. Sick, sick man.

Why the hate for the OP? I never knew all these details before. I'm glad OP posted it.

What the hell is wrong with sharing this stuff and getting a discussion going? We're just supposed to never speak of it, because Jackson is dead and a saint?

W. T. F.

MJ wasn't attracted to men, once the little boys hit puberty it was over for him. He may have had some attraction to women, though it could have been just for show. People definitely underestimated his intelligence and ability to manipulate people, he hid behind an innocent young Peter Pan image.

Alphonso Ribeiro has stated that the Tabloids offered his Dad $100,000 to say he saw Michael compromising situations

Jackson cousin Tim Whitehead was also offered thousands for a first-hand "account" of MJ.

You can't tell me that the parents of these boys are blameless in this.

I've never understood how any parent could've left their child alone with that freak.

Of course, I've never been in awe of celebrities.

I think abusers know how to pick victims. In case like the ones described in this thread, the abuser tested the families to see what he could get away with in stages. He vetted them.

From whence did OP's copy and paste originate? And what is the date?

R30 They're not. I actually find them more disgusting and heinous than Jacko. I can't believe you could actually pimp out your own flesh and blood, your own child, to a sick pedophile like Jacko. They knew what was happening and condoned everything. They were the sole reason Jacko got away with molesting boys.

They should be charged and thrown in jail, but true to form they are happily playing the victim getting another stab at Jacko's wealth.

R23 Yeah, Aaron is pretty messed up.

And yet you still get ridiculous stans that defend MJ. He was a sick man and a child molestor. The parents of these kids have a lot to answer for too.

[quote]Alphonso Ribeiro has stated that the Tabloids offered his Dad $100,000 to say he saw Michael compromising situations

That was really strange. The story doesn't make much sense unless the tabloids KNEW Ribeiro's dad had seen something compromising and were hoping he'd spill to them.

Because if all they wanted was a fake story they could make that up for free. No one had to pay $100K in 1984 money to get a fake story about MJ.

R37 Not really. It was supposed to create doubt in the public's minds that all of the allegations against Jacko were trumped up by the tabloids to besmirch Jacko's reputation by offering bribes and payouts. It was quite a clever ploy so the public didn't hear the usual cry of 'He was innocent, it's all fabricated.'

It's so strange to dislike MJ as a person, but still enjoy his music.

His music is just pop crap, it's nowhere near as rich or important as, say, The Beatles (to name just one classic band). No big loss.

r39, well lucky for me then that I've always hated his music as well.

Jackson was vile to the core. An absolutely evil monster. But I agree, the parents of these kids are even worse. He basically lived with Jackson for THREE YEARS?!? The parents didn't wonder why a grown man would want to spend so much time with a pre-pubescent boy? What I find fascinating is how witnesses always describe how it was so obvious that Michael was infatuated with these boys, and how possessive he was of them. How could the parents not see that? Because they didn't WANT to see it. All they $aw wa$ ca$h and vacation$ and expen$ive $tuff. It all just sickens me.

WTF was wrong with the staff members who personally witnessed inappropriate (to put it mildly) things going on and did nothing? I don't know how the hell they can live with themselves.

Are there still (black) people who believe that it's only racists trying to besmirch Jacko because he was a successful black man? And that he never touched any of these kids?

One thing about pedophiles that I always think but daren't say aloud, is that I really don't think they're "evil". I think they have a sexual fetish and they absolutely cannot help it. They don't mean to hurt the kids or even corrupt them necessarily, they're just attracted to them and want to love them. They can't help it just like gays can't help it. Of course, that's not to say that they don't inadvertently harm the kids—physically or emotionally. And Jackson really fucked up some kids mentally, obviously. But I just don't have that knee-jerk reaction that most people have, where they think that there is no greater crime than diddling a child. I'm not defending it in any way, I just think the outrage is somewhat outsized. There are, I believe, worse crimes out there.

[quote]But I just don't have that knee-jerk reaction that most people have, where they think that there is no greater crime than diddling a child. I'm not defending it in any way, I just think the outrage is somewhat outsized.

So outrage about a child getting sexually abused is "somewhat outsized." I'm glad I don't know you personally. That is an outrageous statement.

Yes, R45, when someone says there is nothing more evil than a child molester, I think they're wrong.

I'm not talking about instances where the kid is raped and suffers physically, and I'm certainly not talking about kids who get murdered along with the molestation. But someone coercing a kid to jerk him off, and that's all? Really, there are worse things that could happen. It's not always the ultimate evil it's made out to be.

I'm not saying it should be legal or anything like that.

R46 is scaring me a little bit.

This court report would be less tragic if the writer could have learned the difference between "he" and "him", of course.

R47, how so? I'm not advocating for pedos or suggesting any laws should be changed.

The celebrity friends saw, first hand, Jackson traveling and coddling with little boys, and they still socialized with him like it was nothing. It's a real eye opener as to the true character of these celebrities.

r50 I've wondered that as well. If I saw a grown man coddling a little boy who was not his actual son, I would be thinking something was "off" at the very least. I can't help but think a few of those celebrity friends must've thought "what's going on here?" when they observed such behavior as the kids sitting in MJ's lap, holding hands and so forth. Normal grown men don't do things like that with kids they are not related to.

R49 you're a sick fuck.

Another thing, everyone in the world saw him with these kids way more than any man has business being with a kid whose not his own, and didn't blink an eye. Why? It was always weird. I thought so at the time, although it seemed no one else did. How is it that after all this testimony and child porn he had, he was never imprisoned?

R52, fuck off. I am not saying child sexual abuse is okay. I just don't think pedophiles can help it that they're attracted to prepubescent kids, and consequently I don't think they are the ultimate evil, as if often claimed (unless they actually cause physical harm or death). How does that make me a 'sick fuck'? I'm not sanctioning child abuse or suggesting that more people should try it, or anything like that. For crying out loud. Fucking frau mentality.

I agree with your entire second paragraph, however.

I wonder what Lisa Marie "yes we really did have sex ...with each other" Presley thinks about all of this.

[quote]I think they have a sexual fetish and they absolutely cannot help it. They don't mean to hurt the kids or even corrupt them necessarily, they're just attracted to them and want to love them. They can't help it just like gays can't help it.

R53 Brilliant. Compare a mental disorder with a natural sexual orientation.

You're a fucking sicko, r53. Sexual abuse of a child is one of the most heinous things imaginable. It can cause a lifetime of psychological problems and unstable behavior.

R53 sounds like a troll. Sure me being gay and having sex with consenting adults is exactly the same as a sociopathic monster abusing children mentally and physically. That's what these right wing idiots would love to believe.

Jackson was a child molestor, who got away with it because people are easily bought off/and or scared to challenge someone with that much star power. This all reminds me of the Saville case in the UK, only after his death do numerous victims and witnesses come out. His music was shitty anyway and I don't know how anyone can listen to it knowing full well he raped and groomed young boys among other atrocities he committed.

R55-- so you think these guys aren't attracted to boys but molest them just for sick fun? There are people who are attracted to kids. Some live the fantasy and molest kids. Some have relationships with adults who look like kids. And some simply don't act on their feelings. But the feelings are real. You can't deny that.

R57 just because you feel like doing something doesn't mean you're not a sick evil fuck when you actually go through with it. They most certainly DO mean to hurt the kids and they know full well how it hurts them, and they still do it, so yes, you're a sick fuck too for being an apologist, and you're most likely a pedophile, because normal people aren't pedophile apologists.

I'm sorry. I do not believe pedophiles mean to hurt the kids. Murderers mean to hurt kids. Pedophiles love them.

[quote]But the feelings are real. You can't deny that.

So are the "feelings" to rape, murder, defraud and steal. So fucking what?

This thread is so fucking ugly.

[quote]I do not believe pedophiles mean to hurt the kids.

Finally remembered about the ignore-dar trick and sure enough, this guy has been starting pederasty threads. Hooray, a pederasty troll. What fun.

[quote]One thing about pedophiles that I always think but daren't say aloud, is that I really don't think they're "evil". I think they have a sexual fetish and they absolutely cannot help it. They don't mean to hurt the kids or even corrupt them necessarily, they're just attracted to them and want to love them. They can't help it just like gays can't help it. Of course, that's not to say that they don't inadvertently harm the kids—physically or emotionally. And Jackson really fucked up some kids mentally, obviously. But I just don't have that knee-jerk reaction that most people have, where they think that there is no greater crime than diddling a child. I'm not defending it in any way, I just think the outrage is somewhat outsized. There are, I believe, worse crimes out there.

WTF is wrong with you? And you preface this disgusting shit with "are blacks still defending" this rancid, disease cunt when it's obvious his most deranged and loyal fans are white?

I can't.

Sure the British pedo Jimmy Savile didn't mean to hurt the kids either. Just enjoyed himself, so nothing bad about it??

So many mj fantards in this thread or maybe just one?

Nambla mouthpiece is here.

[quote]I'm sorry. I do not believe pedophiles mean to hurt the kids. Murderers mean to hurt kids. Pedophiles love them.

You're a vile piece of SHIT!

Bitch, I'd beat you the fuck down if I ever met your putrid ass, you pedophile, racist CUNT!

[quote]His music is just pop crap, it's nowhere near as rich or important as, say, The Beatles (to name just one classic band). No big loss.

Agreed. Prince, Bowie, Madonna all had better songs than Jacko. They also had something he didn't. Progressive growth as an artist.

Here's a pedophile full of love, you bastard.

R59 ignored.

Pedo bye!

Here, pedo.

I like the fake outrage over pedophiles in this thread.

This thread was made for the sole reason of obsessing over Jackson and little boys. He's been dead for years and we already have multiply threads about him, but that's not enough for the copy and paste person who can never have enough of the sordid details and pictures of Jackson posing with kids.

I know you are going to reply with a fake post of "I never knew about this, I appreciate the OP posting it here, why is the media hiding it... you pedo racist!" and more nonsense of that kind, but the truth is pretty obvious here. If you have an unhealthy obsession with Jackson and child abuse, get some help and talk it over with someone.

I thought this was started by the person who posted whole books, R71, not one of the MJ loons, and then MJ loons showed up?

[quote]I like the fake outrage over pedophiles in this thread.

Man, you are one sick fuck.

WTF wrong with this pedo apologist posting in this thread?

I remember Latoya saying back in 1993/94 that Michael wrote a one million check to a little boy' father who was working as a garbage man and she implied that this was a hush money to kid' parent.

The parents are as sick and evil as Jackson. Same with the household help. Money talks.

R72 You're right, The thread was started by the person posting books on DL but it got invaded by pedo apologists.

They look like such a loving couple...

Thanks, OP. I learned a few new things today thanks to your diligence and a boring afternoon. Read the whole story.

[quote]I do not believe pedophiles mean to hurt the kids.

Drunk drivers don't mean to hurt people. But they often do anyway. The pedophile cares nothing about what is best for the children they claim to love. All they want is their own gratification, with little or no regard for the impact on the children. What pedophiles there may be with a conscience understand that expressing their desires leads to children being hurt and so resist it as best they can.

If they really loved children, would they cast them aside so casually when they grew up?

His behavior is not representative of everyone at Pepsi-Cola. We are a family company and we love children dearly.

[quote]But someone coercing a kid to jerk him off, and that's all? Really, there are worse things that could happen. It's not always the ultimate evil it's made out to be.

Even if there isn't any overt physical harm, that shit can screw people up for years, often for their entire lives. In some cases, what they suffer may well be worse than being killed. So yes, it may well be the ultimate evil.

You NEVER let them grow old enough to talk about ANYTHING.

The Pepsi Kid and the Coke Sucker

Seeing Liza in those pictures makes me wonder how much she actually knew about what went on.

I remember seeing a photo of Jacko dancing on the stage with Jimmy Safechuck during his bad tour concert, and Jacko had an erection.

It's surprising that Jacko got away with it for a long time. Imagine an ordinary adult male in the company of young boys all the time like this, in his home, taking them in public as his dates. People would have a totally different reaction.

All I can say is that Michael Jackson was a very sick man. And it seems very obvious that he was hiding in plain sight. At the end of his life, he was reduced to staying in Dubai, in a friends palace because he either didn't have the money or felt safe enough to stay in the US. He was a complete joke at the end of his life -- a pariah to the industry that protected him for so long. He had to go to London to perform since he probably couldn't get a tour in the US. He was done; washed up and a complete embarrassment. Only his death could save his "legacy".

He was a freak of the first order

Dying was the best thing to happen to his career.

Holding hands with his date Jimmy on the red carpet

How did all these celebs turn a blind eye to this? At the very least, his behavior was way past eccentric or quirky, it was downright bizarre. I remember being a fan of Thriller, but even as a kid I could tell there was something off about him.

Over the years, as more and more stories came to light; the oxygen tank, Bubbles, Neverland, his addiction to plastic surgery, it was apparent to anyone with any amount of common sense that he was beyond eccentric. When it became known that he was spending all that time with those child stars, (Lewis and Culkin), it was obvious that he was not just some Peter Pan reliving his lost childhood. That's just not normal by any standards. He wanted to help youth? Fine, but he could have done it in different ways. It disappoints me but doesn't really surprise me that certain celebs turned a blind eye to this. Sure they couldn't stop him, but they didn't have to support him as they did either. Then again, who really knows what goes on in Hollywood and what is "acceptable" there?

Jacko with Jimmy in Japan during the Bad tour

R81 Bitch, please.

Don't believe for a second that Michael Jackson is the only one in Hollywood who abused boys or that he was an abuse survivor, so he probably grew up thinking that was okay because he was subjected to it at a young age. That such a beautiful place as Neverland Ranch could be a front for such ugliness is sad. I grew up listening to his music, but less and less so the more I read about him. He used this whole "magic of childhood" crap to get away with hurting children. Even the children's charities of his looked like just another front for abuse. I'm surprised there aren't more revelations about those. And his obsessions and connections with Disney just makes other Disney fans look bad and also calls to question how so many ex-child actors who worked there went bad.

R93 You should talk, Mother. How's Hell these days?

R82 So true. Addiction, suicidal ideation, fullblown psychosis, pedophilic tendencies of their own - the list goes of what these children suffer from goes on.

Stupid Lisa Marie Presley to this day defends him, and says he was wonderful with her own kids. Of course he would be, what does she expect? abuse kids infront of her!

R95 Be careful, cunt. I can still hex you from beyond.

Jimmy wearing Jacko' glass during their Japan visit

Not saying that Michael Jackson did abuse Lisa's kids, but lots of moms defend their children's abusers, even when the abuser isn't rich and famous.

With Jimmy backstage

Jimmy wearing Jacko' fedora

He was America's Jimmy Saville. I approve!

Hawaii 1988

Desperate grown up Jimmy Safechuck holding an umbrella for Jacko in an attempt to remain in Jacko' good graces after being dumped for another young new boytoy

Crazed MJ stans wishing death on Jacko' victims Wade and Jimmy and Diane Dimond, the jouranlist who wrote the truth about Jacko

And you want to tell me that that person wishing Ebola on all those people isn't black?

Feeling sick reading this! I am glad he is dead!!!

"the abuse increased not only in frequency but also in variety. On another occasion during the Bad tour, Jackson and Jimmy engaged in a sex act redacted in his pleadings but one which Jackson “referred to … as ‘selling me some’.” ,James says Jackson would “give James jewelry after [James] did this, as a ‘reward’.”

Disgusting

R109 My God. I'm glad it was redacted.

What a vile man. As for Lisa, she admitted on Oprah in 2010 she couldn't say for sure if he was innocent or not because she wasn't in the room with them. I mean, their marriage was so real yet she had doubts?

And, there's a story about MJ wanting to meet the Harry Potter kids? I only read about it here on DL. What happened?

Amateur home video of an MJ sighting at Disneyland 1988. He's with Jimmy Safechuck here, surrounded by an entourage and gawking fans. Watch the whole 2 minutes. You'll catch a glimpse of Miko Brando (Marlon's son) in his capacity as body guard.

And Jimmy. Notice how they're dressed like twins and walking side by side very close to each other like a romantic couple would. Even a parent with a child that age would probably have the kid running around in front of him/her. Look at the other kids in the video running around. But MJ's little buddy is almost in lockstep with him.

Ugh!

R113 Miko Brando used to pimp little boys for Michael

Who is the troll on a rampage after Michael Jackson?

Holding hands out on the town with Liza.

[quote]If they really loved children, would they cast them aside so casually when they grew up?

Exactly. They don't love anyone but themselves. They clearly don't love these children because of the reason you stated; children grow up. They love fucking nubile, hairless young flesh and obliterating innocence in the process, and that is the reason they are so hated by everyone else. Pedophiles are sociopaths. I'm sorry if you feel you were born with this orientation, but castration is the only answer if you can't control your urges.

Interesting, as this is the way the average hetero man treats women: they like young, nubile, admiring, submissive, INNOCENT virgins, which they would promptly dump once she hits 35 (or 30, 25, or 21) if not for lack of wealth and cultural restrictions.

I watch those "To Catch a Predator" videos on Youtube and when those disgusting guys get busted going to meet 12 year old kids after chatting/grooming them on the computer, they say they weren't thinking about what they were about to do to an innocent child - they were only thinking about their own needs/desires. Same for MJ - he probably never thought about what his leching after little boys would do to them.

And I hate the apologists who say they give MJ a pass because "he didn't have a childhood". Well, neither did his brothers and none of them made headlines toting tween boys around.

bump

St Michael of Jackson. Patron saint to priests worldwide.

Call me a creep or crazy, but it's not the sex acts themselves that destroy these poor children. It's the fucked up mind games, the grooming, the "you MUST keep it a secret, or ..." threats, the fear, being too afraid to share the experience, the feeling of being alone with this, the crushed spirit after being abandoned not only by the pedophile rapist but also by the parents and very likely the police force, the whole world being turned upside down after being mentally fucked up by one or several pedophile creeps and their enablers, etc.

Our present world is so fucked up because so many people understimate how traumatic it is to not just expererience such horrible physical abuse but give victims the opportunity to deal and heal with the trauma. Instead people are pushed to take drugs, drink alcohol or do anything necessary to just push it under the surface to remain there to fuck up the victims further and make their lives miserable. You simply can't lock such a trauma away or distract yourself enough (with drugs, alcohol, or some OCD) for it to lose its destructive power.

but it's not JUST the sex acts themselves that destroy

sorry for missing the word just.

DId jimmy safechuck ever get a settlement of any kind? He deserves millions for the abuse he endured.

Jacko ruined so many lives and people still idolize him!

Thanks OP, I regret being mj' fan for so long. I just didn't want to believe he was a pedo but the evidence is overwhelming.

There is the DOCUMENTARY called OPEN SECRET-----it was on YT---Probably still is----about the victimization of kids in Hollywood---like this one.....they interviewed BS accuser among others....they also talked with parents....for anyone who cares...

No, r125. The judge threw out his case.

Dirty bastard...

"Michael wants to do another shot of you drinking the Pepsi bud, but this time he wants you to suck up and down the bottle."

Does one hope Jackson dies a horrible death?

Oh, wait.

He already did.

^ Not really, since it wasn't in a grease fire.

Why was Safechuck's case thrown out?

Statute of limitations r134. On one of the cases he had one year after Jacksons death to sue the estate. He didn't file until 2014.

It seems a lot of these kids (now men) made a deal with the devil when they came out in support of Jackson during his 2005 trial (Wade Robson, Bret Barnes, Macualy Culkin, etc.). Yes they were young, groomed, brainwashed and likely rewarded financially and even socially for a period of time. But when their payouts dried up, as is the case with Robson, and the years went by, and the public bought their stories as truth, especially since they testified in courts of law, they can't exactly have their cake and eat it too, now.

In Robson's case I believe him. But he lacked courage when he had the chance to come forward the first time. He was a child, yes, and took the candy. But life is harsh whether you know better or not. Robson destroyed his own credibility then, and is now finding himself disbelieved and accused of being a money-grubber, which, let's face it, he is.

Safechuck is in a similar situation. He happily took the rewards for keeping his trap shut. Got to brag about being MJ's buddy. Had his wedding at Neverland. Probably thought being associated with Michael J. might eventually pan out to something but never really did. Now, all these years later he has finally come out of denail that he got stiffed, big time, and a court says to fuck off. He had a chance to reveal the truth and took the candy instead. Now the candy's all gone and these guys must all be sick to their stomachs.

R136 Sad but True!

I wonder if Macauly Culkin will ever say the truth oneday!

If Macauly Culkin told the truth, he'd have to kiss his Michael Jacskon trust fund payouts goodbye. Don't think for a second that some junkie former child actor made "smart investments" to be living the way he does without having worked at anything significant in almost 20 years.

Exactly, r138. Culkin lives a pretty expensive lifestyle and of course high-grade coke and heroin don't come cheap. One hit movie from nearly 30 years ago can't still be financing all of that.

Plus, he could kiss his friendship with Paris goodbye.

Yeah, I'm sorry, Liza seems complicit. If I as an adult were out with another adult who brought an unrelated child everywhere, held his hand, etc. like this situation, I'd know something was up. Not sure whether I would or could stop it; might have a word with the kid's parents. Hope Liza had the same qualms.

Never liked MJ, never liked his "music", don't like pop anyway, and always thought he was a creep. Very glad I have a massive CREEP radar and hope these kids now adults can find peace through all this.

R141 Liza's granddad, whom she never met (Judy's dad) was run out of town because of a pedo scandal. Details are scarce online. But basically Judy's dad was gay AND a pedo. I would surmise there's a level of acceptance for pedos there, also given Judy, and then Liza, grew up in show business. So yeah I agree, some complicity there on Liza's part, or at the very least being in denial, going for the Peter Pan story.

All those kids have such dead eyes pictured with MJ.

What did Michael Jackson and pimples have in common?

They both came all over your face at age 12.

Rot in hell, you POS pedophile, Michael Jackson.

The late Elizabeth Taylor was complicit as well.

Everybody around him was complicit. But that's the case with pedos in general. Victims of abuse are often disbelieved by their own parents when the abuse is a spouse, relative, close friend or somebody they admire/respect. All of Jacko's victims had parents behind them in denial at the very least or straight pimping at worst.

Back in1989 to 1990 I worked for a public defender agency. A large part of our caseloads involved dealing with clients accused of molestation. We'd often sit around at lunch discussing Jackson's obvious grooming of these boys. As I recall we were unanimous in the belief that he fit the profile of a molester and couldn't understand how people kept defending him.

I was 15-16 when Black or White came out and it was so obvious to me this guy was a creep. I couldn't understand how it was seemingly kept under wraps. It all seemed so glaringly obvious, and I wasn't "in the know" or anything. This was just from regular news on TV and his various appearances.

^ I must've been more naive. I was the same age. I saw Macauly Culkin in the video and concluded that Michael Jackson had turned into a kiddy show and perhaps always had been (I and my friend LOOOVED him in fourth grade). But by high school I could see his bland commercialism and chalked him up to something aimed at little kids, which in fact, is what he was, but I never made the molestation connection until well after he died, believing in his PR machine story that he was a persecuted black man that just happened to turn into a white one.

Given all the rape and pedo accusations against famous big shots this week, might MJ's victims be given another shot at being believed?

R153, I think that most people believed the stories. I know I did. After I saw that weird special on ABC with Jackson and Martin Bashir, I had zero doubt.

Michael Jackson is the classic, all boxes ticked pedophile. He was able to offend and reoffend because he paid families off, and he was able to obtain some of the best attorneys out there.

Had he not died, Jackson would have offended again and I believe that he would have eventually molested his own children. The best thing that could have happened to him and his family is that he dropped dead. He was beyond help as many offenders are, and he never once believed that he was doing anything wrong. He believed the world thought it was wrong, but that it really wasn’t.

He was a very sick man and it’s a shame he wasn’t murdered much sooner than he was.

This guy saw Michael and Jimmy in Hawaii in 1988 during the time Michael had begun courting Jimmy. More at the link, but here's an excerpt:

"Michael and Jimmy were staying at the Kahala Hilton Hotel (today called Kahala Resort) and I saw them 7 different times around the hotel over 3 days - during the day walking together on the beach, standing together in the lobby, together on a room's balcony, looking at the dolphin area together, and looking at the turtles and penguins kept on display around the swimming pool."

Duck Butter

Wasn't Alfonso Ribeiro the Pepsi kid?

He helped me in the "Rubba-Rubba" Game!!

Michael Jackson was a pedophile and everyone knew it while he was alive and everyone knows it now. During his lifetime he paid off his accusers with millions of dollars, and today his stans and the SJWs refuse to allow anyone to call him out for what he did. But a pedophile he was.

[quote]his stans and the SJWs refuse to allow anyone to call him out for what he did. But a pedophile he was.

Link to "SJW" defending him, you fucking idiot. If he were a Trump supporter, Trump would've happily had him at the WH.

I will hunk MJ was molested by Joe and other pedos. I don't think he molested those children. A molested child would never settle and would rather see their predator in jail trust me .

I do think he had some arrested development and was trying to live the childhood he never had, as an adult. I think his cuddling was highly inappropriate but doesn't look sexual.

Or maybe he's a very cunning pedo. Who knows who cares?

Liza sure could pick them.

This picture is so fucking creepy

That mjfacts website doesn't mess around.

If his name were Michael Johnson he'd still be alive cleaning toilets in Levenworth.

So Jimmy didn't get married at Neverland.

R160, I believe he did. Sure, an eccentric, rich weirdo would be an easy target for such scams, but we are talking about the King of Pop here. He has hundreds of millions of fans all over the world. Many of whom, quite frankly, are batshit crazy and obsessed with him. I am sure they'd kill anyone who said a negative word about him if they could get away with it. Forget about Michael himself and his attorneys, no money would be worth going against his psycho fanbase for the rest of your life unless it really happened.

[quote] So Jimmy didn't get married at Neverland.

Indeed not. Thanks for posting that article. MJ's lawyers apparently made up that story to drop into a court transcript.

Also, Jimmy refused to testify in MJ's defense in 2005, but did in a 1993 deposition during the Jordy Chandler case. After he lied for MJ in that 1993 depo, he got to do some work and hang out with MJ a little bit as a reward. The pic of him holding an umbrella over Mj was taken during this time.

MJ and Rosie and Melissa Etheridge all stymy me as they act EXACTLY like the male chauvinists they seem to eschew. Yeah, molesting those kids was awful, and dropping them for younger models and freezing them out was insult to injury.

Pepsi Kid listicle sums it up.

[quote] Wasn't Alfonso Ribeiro the Pepsi kid?

Yes, the first one in 1984. Jimmy debuted in 1987.

Normal men do not have young boys as their constant companions unless those boys are immediate blood relations.

I just read through this entire thread. I'm stymied - still on the fence. Being an innocent accused of such a crime is certainly a horrendous crime in and of itself. However, I concede with R171 that it's just not normal for a man to solicit the company of children ONGOING from one to the next unless there are ulterior motives. I'll be honest - personally, I cannot tolerate kids but for so long, and I certainly wouldn't want to have them as friends. And the more I type is the more I come to the realization......

Are there any articles or online resources attesting to the ABSOLUTE TRUE character of Michael Jackson? I mean first hand accounts by those who would completely disagree with all the "child-like," "just making up for a lost childhood," individual he was always make out to be way back when. This was the most successful entertainer in entertainment history - I know - I lived through the phenomenon. He could NOT have been so innocent and child-like being in such a position. He ran with wolves, so to speak. He could not be the lamb he showed himself as being while still thriving among the wolves in his proximity. He would have to take on their ways in order to survive. Who was MJ as a MAN?

[quote]This was the most successful entertainer in entertainment history - I know - I lived through the phenomenon.

That's a big reason why he got away with it for so long, and nobody thought it odd that he was always around young boys. Today, the media and gossip sites would be all over that, and questioning it.

I think people who weren't around in the 80s don't understand what celebrity was like back then and how truly HUGE of a celebrity Michael Jackson was. Things were much less cynical now, and even major stars like Beyonce don't have even half the cultural currency that the big 80s stars did.

Things were much LESS cynical then. Sorry.

And in our defense, r174, we were just kids too! If anything, I was jealous of the kids who got to hang out with him. I can't believe adults didn't say how odd it was, we didn't know any better. If you listen to stand ups who are gen x'ers and dare to talk about it, they say the same thing, like why the fuck did adults let him pull that shit?

And everybody loved him, EVERYBODY. I try to explain that to young nieces or nephews, even though my tastes run to metal or punk, I fucking loved him too when I was a kid. r173 is totally right, no one who wasn't around then can imagine how much he was loved and what a huge fucking deal his world premiere videos, etc. were.

it is terrible what was done to him.

the emotional abuse and sexual abuse

Dying really was an incredibly wise move for him. There is no way his pedophile shit would have survived this era. No way.

Macaully Culkins GIRLY femininity grosses me out. He makes Shawn Mendez (almost) look straight......

[quote]That's a big reason why he got away with it for so long, and nobody thought it odd that he was always around young boys. Today, the media and gossip sites would be all over that, and questioning it.

No, when it came up, he played the race card and people backed away immediately. It was the age of OJ and Rodney King so people were already doing it. Even Bill Cosby did it when it got bad enough for him

Oddly both OJ and Jackson were accused by the black community as acting "too white," as was Obama. But when needed they all flip flop on the issue to suit their current agenda

It’s heartbreaking to watch that ad. Michael Jackson is a leering big bad wolf and James Safechuck could not be more glowing and beautiful and innocent a child.

When you saw footage of Jimmy accompanying Michael everywhere, holding hands, in retrospect he looks up at him like hes’s in love with Michael. At the time it’s presented to the public as best friends and hero worship, but in Leaving Neverland which Jimmy Safechuck explain he experienced that the way most experience their first romanticand sexual relationship.

God, MJ was a sick fuck.

R181 Yes, Jimmy was glowing and over the moon happy in these pictures with pedo Jacko, Sad.

Michael Jackson would not have been the so-called "King of Pop" if it weren't for the edge that Quincy Jones gave his sound.

How about the rule is: If you're over 18 and frequently befriend and/or are frequently in the company of young children, you AUTOMATICALLY get investigated? I mean, the writing was on the wall here. There are hundreds of people who could have and should have stopped this abuser as he fucked up kid after kid, and did nothing. People can't be counted on, we need strong mandatory laws to investigate this sick shit.

My aunt married a pedophile. He molested my sister. He liked to make nasty jabs about the looks of women and would rant about how "women age worse than men." Jackson's "ew gross" comments about women where a variation on that.

R181 It pisses me off that Jacko stole his innocence. He was such a beautiful, sweet innocent kid. Jacko took advantage and ruined his innocence, the most precious thing a child has. He was a monster.

Jackson had a peaceful death which was much, much more than he deserved. He was a despicable monster who deserved to die in prolonged agony.