StraighBait: There's actual a Business that Teaches Gay Guys how to Seduce Straight Dudes

hmmm

This is a rip-off and a setup.

PT Barnum was prescient.

Booze is your best bet. May I recommend cinnamon-flavored Fireball?

Does it recommend you keep your cell phone handy in case you have to dial 911 after he's beat the shit of you for coming on to him?

Obviously, it's for those type of people who think no means yes.

Finally, a way to profit off of self-hate.

That's easy. Pretend to be a woman on social media.

Hmmmm

I've already got two holes to choose from. I'm not trading in my penis for a third one, especially one that constantly needs to be dilated, just to get a man when I already got myself a man without transitioning.

Is this one of the courses offered at Trump University?

If Jared Kushner is the professor, sign me up. For the labs too.

Did someone actually buy this? I wonder what they got in the mail lol.

Just walk up to one after he's had a few drinks and say, "My girlfriend/wife is out of town. You wanna come over and play?".

Convince them to go MGTOW

Did anyone buy this for $69?

A lot of people believe this murder was an attempted gay seduction gone very wrong.

I would bet large sums of money that this is a spin-off of the whole PUA (Pick-Up Artist) movement.

This is an actual thing-- google it-- where guys teach other, nerdier guys, how to pick up women, using techniques like "negging"-- saying negative things about them, criticizing their nose or their hair, which allegedly gets them to want the guy to like them. It's a huge business and is very popular with Silicon Valley types with zero social skills, Asians in particular. What's scary is there's anecdotal evidence they actually work.

I'm sure they took a lot of these same techniques and figured out a way for gay guys to use them on straight guys.

I have to say, I never believed the thing about truly straight guys being willing to do gay stuff. For years,

But then I was 40 years old and I returned to my hometown to be with my ailing father for a while. While out one night, I ran into the guy who'd been the biggest jock in my high school. He was the state wrestling champion, got a scholarship to attend a prestigious college, the whole nine. And he was hot as shit. We weren't friends in high school. We were in totally different social stratas.

He'd just gotten divorced, and we started talking, struck up a friendship. My gayness never came up. One night, after beers we started making out on the couch. I wound up sucking his perfect jock dick that night. It happened a couple time after that again. Then I moved back to LA. He has since gotten remarried to a woman, and had another kid. We're still friends, and have never talked about it.

Before this happened to me, I would have never believed those things happen!

I've had friends tell me that many straight men, just like everyone else, respond well to flattery. It's just that in this case, they don't like being called out in front of other straight men.

Just remember, the magic word is, "Yum!"

r18, that never happened.

And shame on you for leaving your ailing father to go out drinking!

R21 I have no idea how to demonstrate this to you, how to prove it, but it absolutely did.

What I wonder is: As far as this guy knew, I was straight. Is it possible that straight guys just suck each other off once in a while, and never talk about it? Like, is this just a secret common activity that gay guys and women are not privy to?

Again, I was very very shocked when it happened. R21, I can understand why you don't believe me, actually.

It does R22, but rarely at the age it happened to you.

Pretty common in high school and college when guys aren't sure about their sexuality and are so horny all the time that they'll go for it.

I was closeted in high school and college and jockish enough.

I had plenty of drunken experiences like yours which ended with "I just wanted to see what it was like" "Yeah me too-- don't tell anyone!"

And like you, we never discussed it.

Downside was it ruined a couple of close friendships--things got awkward and I realize now that what I was secretly hoping was that they'd say "I love you buddy! I'm gay too!" and we'd live happily ever after.

That kind of drunken experimentation sort of dies down by age 25 or so, as guys get more serious and the opportunity for drunken hangouts diminishes. Not saying it never happens, just diminishes.

Not a popular opinion on DL, but I think most of those guys were just horny and curious and maybe Kinsey 2s or 3s, and that as "Y Tu Mama, Tambien!" illustrated, bromances can easily devolve into romances.

R23 Nice fantasy

Is it odd that I have absolutely no desire to ever suck off a straight guy ?

R25 Yes

It happens R24.

It's something that never gets talked about-- Y Tu Mama Tambien is really the only movie that addresses it-- but it happens often enough.

DL, with its preponderance of femme gay men, is probably not the place to expect a rational discussion however.

R23 I was lucky that it didn't cause a single blip in our friendship. Though, I suspect that if he knew I would gay, it would have.

We were both going through mid-life crisis together, and it was a blast. We'd party all night, drugs, beers- and sleep till noon.

That was a fun time. Of course, soon the coach turned back to a pumpkin. I moved back to LA, and he got married and had a kid. It was like I lived some kind of indie movie.

Just never say the word "gay." Guys get weirded out whenever the word "gay" is brought up. As long as they feel they are not doing anything that makes them gay, they are coool

R29 I think this is true. Straight men are attracted to the idea of getting off with no strings attached and see gay men as just another means to an end.

Straight men are also not above whoring themselves into getting something they want.

The key is to not embarrass the guy or come onto him in front of others.

Another key is to use humor. I seduced a former bully of mine when we were at a camp out. We were buzzed from beer and pot, alone in his tent, and I began teasing him. "No dude, I'm not sucking your dick, I don't blow children or toddler sized." Then of course he'll respond with how big he is and yada yada yada. The conversation turns horny, and you have to keep leading him on, jokingly. Let him think it's spontaneous and that he's the one in charge. And that you'll never tell anyone.

R32 Best advice I've read so far on this topic.

R32 watched too many 80s comedies

So seducing straight guys is always about three things: comfort with another guy, lack of fear that the experience will come back to haunt them, and the excitement of the sex. I agree that younger guys are perhaps more open but any age will do. Comfort is gained in various ways: using alcohol,or pot helps, but what really helps is being honest. All the straight guys I have been with knew I was gay from the jump. Then the conversation helped. I didn't talk about gay shit at all. Straight men aren't interested in the" gay lifestyle". They want you to be a regular guy. That where the lack of fear comes in. Straight men don't be gay, or try gay things. If the sex isn't organic it feels forced and they feel used. Odd that straight men- who are always trying to seduce women- don't want to be seduced! And they want to trust you. That is only created by understanding them. Finally foot massage, neck massage, contact touching- shoulders, knee- always opens a door. Not fiction- truth. Too many gay men lack the understanding that the straight guy is having an experience, not sex- an experience.

R34 But it does happen. The same guys who bully gay guys in front of their friends will go up to one when no one is around and ask for help getting off. The abundance of these stories makes me wish I was out in high school.

Oh, it happens

But not to fraus like R32

Her entire post is a checklist of cliches

The only checklist is for me to put YOU in check about trying to call me out R37.

The only cliche is from a gay naysay frumpster like you with no wit, or game to ever get laid. Sorry hon, some of us developed the looks AND the witty skills to go along with them, and the confidence to get who and what we want. Trolls and fugs wouldn't know about that.

PS: sweetie, I attended summer camp every summer of my life from 1st grade through the age of 15, only a 'tard or a turd like you R37, could go an entire decade without anything to show for it. I was just getting started. You should've seen me in action when I finally came out. Scorpio homo mojo working it's mysterious, mystical magic.

It's so true that you can't mention "gay" and have to make them feel secure no one will ever know. I've mwsssd with so many hot straight-identical dude dudes who said they felt comfortable with me because I was a normal masculine dude and it didn't seem weird to "vibe" with a normal guy. They also said they felt they could hang with me in public and no one would suspect anything

You have to not steer clear of the word "gay," but also anything stereotypical. You should be listening to hip hop and watching ESPN, not Katy Perry and the Golden Girls/Girls.

Not only steer clear of the word...

I'll give advice for free:

1) Drink Lots of beer 2) Watch straight porn together 3) By the time he's so drunk he'll let you blow him, he won't be able to get it up.

Watching porn together happens, but is rare. More likely, you will have An in through normal guy activities like shooting hoops, sports bars, straight clubs,baseball games, lifting weights, and house parties

R43 As someone who participates in those activities, you sound like a major douchebag.

I had a friend who messed Around with hot straight or straightish dudes From straight clubs. He's a hot former basketball player himself. I go with him to these clubs and now I understand why. Many Straight dudes go to these clubs cause they see Horny ANd loking for a chick to bone. There is a scarcity of chicks willing to hook up, so many dudes will be unsuccessful and frustrated. Also, there is the sensual vibe of the club including the music, that gif and scant clothing, and darkness. A bunch of hot horny young people dancing up against you. sometimes a random guy would put his hands on my hips and upper butt as he passed by the packed dance floor, and I'm convinced the touches were not inadvertent. There were a lot of stares and glances from single guys still alone late into the night. Lots of potential

Back in the day, a simple "Yum" would do...

Yep straight clubs are hot hunting grounds. Go after midnight

Actually, r43 sounds very hot and is the type of guy I am attracted to. r44, you sound like a prissy nasty stereotypical type.

Str8 is a lie to begin with.

Besides copious alcohol, you need to separate the target from the herd. The social inhibition in straight men is very strong when they are in the company of other straight men. Also, tell them of the incredible orgasms that men have had when they stretched your pooper.

I'm sure some of them would be fooled by a semi-passable drag queen.

True, that's why a single dude alone is much more likely to take a walk on the wild side. Also, DONT act effeminate or stereotypical in any way

Sucking his dick is the most sexual appealing thing to him you can do. Guys are always telling guys "suck my dick." They may say it jokingly or as an insult but they see a dude sucking them off as compatible with being manly and not gross. They view having anal sex with a dude as too gross and weird.

That's just you R53.

But, these men are not straight. But, gay men eat this shit up because they have zero self-esteem and self-respect.

So if we're really getting into it ... if they think you're gay too, that's going to be an instant no. The last thing they want is for anyone to find out. Remember, a single instance of gayness will mark a man gay forever, so they want no chance. If you both have something to lose (e.g. you're both straight") then it's all good.

One technique I used a lot was the "leg test"-- you're at a bar or a party and you "accidentally" open your legs so they touch the other guy's. Only do this if it's crowded and chances are good you'd accidentally bang legs at some point with them anyway. Move your leg away the first time but then the second or third leave it there. See if he pulls away. At some point he'll leave it there and you're pressing your legs against each other, drinking and talking and something's probably going to happen.

As others have mentioned, pot and alcohol play a big role. So does talking about sex and how horny you are. Sometimes it happens organically-- you both kind of want it and it just happens. Other times you have to try tricks, like telling him he should blow you because you gave him pot and wait till he says, no, you blow me.

And lots of times he loses his nerve or gets too tired and it doesn't happen and he likely figured out what was going on and stops hanging with you.

Other times he goes through with it and then freaks as soon as he cums and has major guilt.

While a I guy you are bromancing with can be an easy target, if you value the friendship, lay off the sex. It rarely survives and that fantasy of him confessing his undying love for you too is just that.

You've been warned.

Agree with R53. Anal is a huge leap for that type of guy.

[quote]Anal is a huge leap for that type of guy.

This would be news to a lot of women who have been talked into taking it in the rear to please their man.

Yep which is why male4male ads are filled with "straight dudes for straight dudes," "no openly gay guys," "discreet and private only," and "guys with girlfriends only" requirements. They want to ensure discretion by only tangling with other guys who have something to lose if it gets out. Mutually assured discretion is optimum

Fucking assholes, R59. Degenerats.

For realz R58?

Anal WITH ANOTHER GUY would be a big step for these guys.

A lot of openly gay men don't like anal.

Gotta block R61. "For realz" is done.

So wait I'm confused now. Am I not supposed to lift my kaftan and "present hole" to seduce the straight boys?

"you'll be soaking up the secrets of str8 bait in 2 minutes from now... and shortly after that, you'll be getting soaked in some straight guy's semen"

LMAO! This is performance art, right?

In the early '90s I used to so suck tons of dick at the UCLA bathroom at Royce Hall. A steady stream of dudes would come in an feed me hot privileged white boy dick though at glory hole.

There was always writing on the stall that said something like "Meet at the tennis courts at 12:30am. FRATS ONLY" So I guess straight hot frat dudes would meet up there and suck each other off. Fuck.

BEST experience at UCLA: I'm sitting there (this is like 1992 and I'm 21 years old) on the bowl, and someone gets in the stall next to me. I can see he has a skateboard, and from what I could tell, he was really hot. Hot face, hot body. PERFECT dick. Long and plump, just perfect. I'm sucking, and after a while he starts just pumping. Eventually, my head is still, and he's just fucking my mouth, really deep. Eventually he cums with a thrust to the back of my throat. He blasted it.

So he leaves, and I spend a few minutes cleaning up in the stall. I walk outside Royce Hall, and there he is with this skateboard sitting on the steps. He was beautiful. Blonde, tanned, just a complete SoCal studboy. He looks up at me and says, in a hot masc skater boy voice "Nice mouth, bro" I thought my knees would buckle.

Damn.

R66, that's so grosss dude

Try hanging out in a hotel bar

I'm amazed at how many dudes who would not be caught dead in a gay bar or neighborhood are "down" to vibe with dudes at a straight bar

Mmmmm

So, basically, going by what some people are saying here:

1) Sleeping with virulently homophobic, closeted bisexual guys is thrilling because... They are homophobic, bisexual, VERY closeted and in self-denial, and bending over backwards to suit their prejudiced needs is great because they publicly hate you, but will cheat on their wives and girlfriends with you as long as no one can see or hear about it. Talk about degrading.

2) Sleeping with desperate, horny "straight" guys who couldn't get a girl and thus, will settle for a one night stand with a guy, is supposed to be hot. Not degrading, but hot, because... Well, they are "straight" and would drop you like a hot potato if a woman looked at the for a second?

3) Manipulating people who want to have nothing to do with you sexually, or taking advantage of them when they are drunk or drugged, is hot because you get them to do something that will make them feel repulsed, guilty and angry later on. Also, don't forget to play the stereotypical straight douchebag role, because acting like an idiot and not being yourself so that you can have sex with someone who doesn't really want you, is awesome.

I can only imagine the sort of self-hatred that some of the people narrating these stories (or wasting time and money on this ridiculous StraightBait rubbish), experience. don't you guys think that going to therapy to learn to accept yourselves would be cheaper, easier and more effective in the short term?

Anything to avoid a fem, R71. ANYTHING.

R71 - sounds like an uptight, prissy nun frau who doesn't understand the male psyche and how most guys are just DTF, and desire to do so with the gold standard of machismo men...hot, str8-ish, masculine acting, virile studs. The same male psyches that are DTF females in heteros, are temporarily diverted to boy on boy action. No harm done.

R71, must be fucking fug, a eunuch, or a judgemental chick, who has NO place on an anonymous gay men's message board. Begone bitch. Before we guys employ these same strategies to fuck YOUR man. But a preachy frump like you doesn't have one. How's 40+ years of celibacy been working for ya'? Your twat is so dry, it queefs sand.

R66, that's fucking HOT!! Way to go bro. Those of us that can and could, did...and should.

@ R73 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Don't forget to say that I probably wear a chastity belt under my muumuu, admire Donald Trump and eat ten packets of chocolate biscuits dipped in lard for breakfast - which is why I don't get to pathetically grovel to suck the cocks of homophobic guys, LOL!!!

Yes, honey, you have read me through and through. How could you do it? I guess that self-loathingly trolling for "straight bro" cock has sharpened your senses, huh?

Well, at least you're a good comedian. LOL!!!

[quote]As far as this guy knew, I was straight.

Oh, honey.

The best ways for a "straight guy to show you his cock" is to become a masseur or urologist.

WOW WOW !!! THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!! BLESS,BILL

Pathetic. Truly.

What's funny is that R71 has unwittingly described the premises of the vast majority of gay porn, which is all about sex with straight guys

Sean Cody, Corbin Fisher and that ilk operate under the premise that they're paying hot horny straight guys to experiment and teaching them to enjoy gay sex. (Whether the guys are actually straight is irrelevant, they are portrayed as such and most are filmed fucking women to enforce the fantasy.)

Men.com, Falcon and the rest usually have scenarios that involve seducing a straight guy. His wife is out, the hot plumber needs his help or he's late on his rent and the hot landlord gives him a way out. Hell, they even usually end with "we won't tell anyone, this is our secret."

I haven't seen any research into this though--I guess it paints too negative a picture of the gay community, reinforces the notion that we'll try and convert straight guys any chance we get.

But would be good to see some academic/psychological research into why this is, why so much gay porn is about seducing straight men.

Gaylings first crushes are usually guys in their proximity - meaning statistically normal hot straight dudes. So a normal, masc dude becomes their ideal. Gays are seen as "less" by normal straight dudes, so that plays even more into it. Straight guys themselves think it would be hot to turn a lesbian. It's about being unique and hot in a way to get a hottie to switch their normal sexuality at least for you.

Along the lines of drunk guys at clubs still alone at closing time, many straight guys aren't handsome jocks and have to work really hard to score pussy. Along with this hard work comes a lot of rejection. Find a guy who is horny enough and been rejected enough times, he'll take a bj from a guy.

R81, no is looking for unattractive out of shape dudes. People want the hot dudes. Even hot dudes strike out with chicks at bars and clubs

Seriously, if you want unattractive out of shape dudes, just go to Adam4Adam

Hmmm

It should be no surprise that bi/gay guys want to get with dudes who are masculine and "normal," whatever their sexual orientation. Male Effeminacy is not attractive to most, and unfortunately a lot of openly gay guys are exhibit nonmasculine traits. Just look at the guys here who call males female names and pronouns and identify with divas and feminine interests. Guys have the right to be effeminate, but its natural for other dudes not to be attracted to them

[quote]It's about being unique and hot in a way to get a hottie to switch their normal sexuality at least for you.

This is the most pathetic part to me. You're a step below fat girls to them -- expected to give good head, fine to use for sex if no one finds out about it. They might "switch" their normal sexuality for Channing Tatum or The Rock, but they're just being their normal selfish and entitled hetero selves with you.

As long as a dude is masculine and buff

The porn version.

Just be chill and laid back with confidence. Don't act weird or pressed or certainly effeminate.

Yep be a normal dude who can connect with regular guys

R81, it wouldn't bother you to know that the straight guy will allow you to blow him only when he's been rejected by all the females? Isn't that a little like scraping the bottom of the barrel and then only if he's drunk enough? That's beyond sad.

Bait Bus is another great example of Seducing Straight Guys porn

It's even sadder because a number of the "straight" guys they pick up and "trick" into getting a blowjob from a guy (TL;DR: they blindfold him and he thinks its a girl giving him head) are actually gay porn stars.

HT to R88 for the Bait Bus reference

Another fine example of why they hate us.

Remember, they want to think of it as a cool bro just helping out a bro. Avoid any "gay" or stereotypical behavior.

I'm sort of effeminate and openly gay and an actor. I was in an intense method acting program for a few years and was pretty much the only gay guy there. Method acting seemed to attract a lot of macho guys wanting to be Brad Pitt or Robert DeNiro. For straight actors, the biggest challenge was playing gay. Worse than a psychopath or serial killer and usually something that got you awards like Tom Hanks Heath Lwdger etc. So my fellow actors would sometimes want to push their limits and do onstage exercises with me, to see if they could handle it. Sometimes it was bullshit and sometimes I got into it. But it became an alpha make thing for them to see which of them was most attractive to me. I'd tell them none of them seemed like they'd be any good at sex and that got several of them upset which was hilarious. I got to make out with a few onstage and off and got into a sexual friendship with one and had another that would send me his naked cellphone pics. It was fun. I really do think they were straight but if you mess with their egos, guys will get competitive.

Were they afraid you would out them?

A friend of mine is always getting straight dudes to send him dick pics and sometimes more. He's kinda masc, more fem, but he's cute and has a great body. His latest is a guy who works at his gym.

Most "gay for pay" or "str8 guys seduced" sites are bullshit. Most of them seem to have been set up beforehand, and many times the "straight" guys had done other gay videos before.

But, this one is real. This dim military dad (he's married and has kids) goes in to what he thinks is a straight porn audition. The guy running the audition films it. He starts talking pictures of him and puts his hand on Taylor's dick and tells him "this is all part of it" He eventually starts sucking Taylor off.

After he comes, he starts saying "That wasn't cool. I hope I can trust you", as in trust him to not release the audition video. The guy running is says "yeah, don't worry"

Taylor isn't all that attractive, but it is hot watching him get tricked.

"See, I was right!"

This is another good one.

Brad Posey brings this 21 year old rocker (Logan) into model and JO. At first, Logan is really sweet and game. Posey slowly starts to creep on him, and you can watch Logan get uncomfortable.

At about 9:00, Posey sits next to him on the couch. Look at Logan's face. He's freaking. Brad Posey puts his hand on Logan's dick and Logan goes "YOU'RE gonna make me come?" Posey continues.

Logan is completely freaked out and lies and says he came, just to get out of it. He comes back the next day for the money shot, and Posey has clearly been told not to touch him this time.

I don't think I've ever seen anything as real as this.

Hmmmm

Brad Posey is interesting

R103 Do you know if Posey is still making videos? Last I heard he'd been arrested for serving beer to underaged dudes. This was a long time ago. He was the best at being a "creeper" and he got the hottest dudes.

Whoever's saying you can't be femme if you want to seduce a straight guy has obviously not noticed the copious m4t ads on Craigslist or noticed how popular trans porn is among straight men. This is why you need more trans friends in your life to give you proper advice about these matters.

Not in public r105

Ucch, more of the "All I really needed to know I learned from Gay Porn" crowd

I dunno, I guess in the boonies and burbs but in rural areas among millennial liberal straight men I don't think that's nearly as true. [R106]

I knew a guy who used to always brag about being able to "convert" straight (or at least straight-identified) guys. He's a former college football player and was very hot when he was young

[quote]Yep which is why male4male ads are filled with "straight dudes for straight dudes," "no openly gay guys," "discreet and private only," and "guys with girlfriends only" requirements. They want to ensure discretion by only tangling with other guys who have something to lose if it gets out. Mutually assured discretion is optimum

How they can possibly tell if the other guy is really straight, discrete, has a girlfriend, and if he's being truthful when he assures discretion? Ten, nine, eight....

I mean unless the guy is a conjoined twin or something he is probably discrete R110

And by "rural" in R108 I meant "urban."

r108, you overestimate how cool straight men are with being associated with feminine guys, especially blue collar and Latin and black dudes. They are still not cool with girly guys when other people are watching.

What happened to the proverbial six pack? It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying this bullshit info.

r114, we aren't creepy rapists

They can't R110

Lots of masc gay guys will claim to be straight or "curious" to get laid. I used to do it when I was early-mid 20s and traveling a lot for work--pulled in very hot guys who bought it, though I suspect many/most of them were gay guys who were playing me back.

Got some hot sex out of it.

I bet if you were a well-known athlete you could pull in tons of "bi-curious" types

Of course dude

It's so comforting to know that even with a moron in the White House who will undoubtedly lead us into oblivion, you can rely on DL queens to continue unabated their quest for "straight" dick.

R119, you realize it's not just a DL thing dude?

How did Diksukka seduce alll these hot macho thugs?

Sizzling Dominicans

Even the white bros

yummy

Is he Out jail yet?

Nnnnn

Nice

These shorts are going to be a bitch to take off!

Maybe some guys, like me, like the conquest of having fun with a straight guy. I've worked many (straight?) men into sex and they haven't complained. And it wasn't rape. You can't rape the willing, so I've heard. Yes, drinking was involved and talking about sex. The touching of the knees is a great way to start or a hand on the shoulder. Isn't it all a game and we're looking for willing partners?

Yikes, R16.

Diksukka

Does it also teach how to defend yourself when the straight guy freaks out and tries to kill you?

Here r131 let me help you.

Haha!

Now straight guys will know what it feels like to have that PUA shit tried on them.

so can somebody in DL pay the $70 and tell us about it?

by the way, I have been able to suck four real straight guys so far, but they have all been cubans. Im cuban and with cuban men, especially with those who practice santeria, things get very interesting.