Why are gay men so sex obsessed?

We aren't

Our community won't even take responsibility for the spread of AIDS. Why not use protection or heck just masturbate? And, no, I'm not absolving Reagan of his role in it.

I won't generalize. For me, it had everything to do with the fact that I didn't get to be a teenager until I was 25.

It's not GY men. It's all men.

[quote]Our community won't even take responsibility for the spread of AIDS.

"Our" community, freeper?

[quote]Why not use protection or heck just masturbate?

Well, golly gee, if only every fag had thought of that!

I'd suggest buying a clue, but I have no doubt that you cannot afford one.

Because we don't need to deal wine-and-dining COCKBLOCKING women 😜

R5 Why did so many people die then? You knew how the disease was spread.

R7 types either very young or very unsophisticated.

All men are sweetie. Dear Hubby isn't an exception, he just doesn't show his obsession in front of you.

Because it's a disease, you ignorant moron. I'm tempted to read OP the riot act, but then I realize he's probably trolling, or a Millennial, or just so uninformed and uneducated that it's pointless. So, OP, get back to us when you've dealt with losing an entire generation on friends and lovers, dealt with discrimination, ignorance, fear, and unmitigated hostility, and yet managed to become successful, happy and productive. Oh, that's right, you're more worried about men having sex... doing what you can't?

I heart you, R10 R5.

R10 Why not use protection or just have one sexual partner? Our community would be a lot better off if more people were monogamous.

R10 is sad. Sex is the only thing he has in life.

OP has never heard of dating.

OP/R7/R10 - I can't speak for others, so I'll speak for myself.

I didn't know about how AIDS was spread until 1983, and by that point I had already been out for 4 years and had unprotected sex with 5 of the people I dated. Luckily I'm HIV-, but I could just as easily contracted it from some unknowing someone and died myself, not to mention passing it on to the subsequent BF.

I wasn't aware of how AIDS was spread because I didn't read the NY Times back then and it wasn't covered in the MSM. The implication was that it was like a gay cancer, and cancer isn't contagious.

And as for protection, practically no one used protection back then - I mean, from what people like me knew back then, "protection" from what?

I swear, some of the people who post here - like R13, whose post makes no sense to me - are dumber than rocks.

Sorry R10 - I mean R12 above, not you!

You'd think some people here never meet straight men

Testosterone.

Is this just a new kind of troll or have I just never noticed it? The "Why are/do..." troll. The pattern is pretty simple. Assert something as fact but put it in the format of a question. Add qualifiers like "most", "seems" or "a lot". The "fact" is isn't generally accepted and no evidence to support the "fact" is supplied.

Anyways, I agree we R1.

OP - I assume when you ask about our community you are referring to gay men. I assume because it isn't clear you are gay or part of a community. What do you mean by responsibility?

HIV is a virus. The gay community didn't make the virus.

You can't possibly mean the gay community hasn't taken responsibility for creating service agencies to care for those with HIV/AIDS as well as providing education about how to avoid becoming infected. You can't possibly mean taking responsibility for fostering public awareness, pushing for a cure and raising funds.

Next time before just making a statement like you did in R2 - try do a little research to see if the fact you have conjured out of thin air is remotely accurate. You might start with the book And the Band Played On.

Because we've been taught homosexuality is a sexual orientation and not an emotional and psychological one as it really is.

Because we have nothing better to do than twist our pearls and pet our cats and moan about "The Man that Got Away"!

All men, gay or straight, are sex obsessed.

Straights have women to stop them. Gays don't.

That said, why is it wrong to have lots of sex?

An innate attraction to men plus testosterone plus a plentiful supply of like- feeling fellows explains it. What a wonderful world.

So.. You WILLINGLY didnt use protection You WILLINGLY didn't find out about your partners sexual history You willingly think prep ONLY will save you from HIV And finally you WILLINGLY didn't do you research on HIV But you're a victim?

Your research*

So.. You WILLINGLY didnt get out of the way. You WILLINGLY didn't find out about that driver's collision history. You willingly think seat belts ONLY will save you from dying in an accident And finally you WILLINGLY didn't do you research on auto fatalities But you're a victim?

[quote]You WILLINGLY didnt use protection You WILLINGLY didn't find out about your partners sexual history

Yes. In 1975-81.

What happens when the next deadly virus is spread by kissing. All this focus on unprotected anal sex yet the next virus could attack from anywhere.

R26 So you're comparing an avoidable disease to a car accident? Smartttt

[quote]And as for protection, practically no one used protection back then...

Just like now!

R27 So who's fault is that: that you didn't want to be safe and value your life?

R31 doesn't care if he makes any sense.

And that's "whose fault," dear R31, not "who's fault."

R32 wants to wine about a disease that his generation chose to get

Lets deflect from the conversation by instead focus on straight men. Why are most of you gays so defensive, I know why. Op hit a nerve that most of you gay men refuse to admit which is the gay culture is very sex obsessed and most of the time devoid of monogamy. Lets discussing cruising in relation to high level of hiv among gay men.

1, You are not part of my "community," OP. Thankfully.

2. Why do you suggest that porn stars are "deified"? This is outrageous exaggeration.

3. Gay men aren't obsessed with sex. Men are.

4. Why do you associate interest in sex with non-monogamous actions?

5. Why do you attempt to force monogamy on people who don't want it, or aren't ready for it? Why do you "deify" monogamy as if it is an end in itself?

6. What is it about your hyper-moralistic, closed-off, prissy background that leads you to presume not only to define the behaviors of millions of diverse gay people (incorrectly, as it is), and then dare to judge them based on a bizarre and outdated standard of perfectionist, institutionalized morality. As in why do you think people who have sex with other people are doing something wrong?

7. And, finally, maybe you haven't noticed how marriage equality, available only for a few years and still under some social attacks from a large minority of lunatics, has been embraced by many thousands of gay people. Why at a time when gay people finally can begin to express their desires and act on their inclinations and celebrate their relationships fully and publicly do you have to post a thread of condemnation?

I can suggest an answer, but someone like you wouldn't like it.

r34 is Louise Hay. And he can't spell "whine," in spite of his excellence at it.

Deplorable should not throw stones.

Yeah, straight men are not obsessed with sex, right.

Gay men are not the ones throwing her beads.

The question really should be why are old Fraus so sex obsessed.

Gay men are not the one who came up with walking on a stage with a a bikini and trying to clam its some kind of talent. Yeah, not serialized at all.

If you think straight men are not obsessed with sex, you live in a basement.

Breeders on the beach.

Gay men, unlike straight men, do not have women to stabilize sexual appetite into a reasonable sphere. Also, gay men suffer from arrested development and most have the mental development of 13 year olds. i am not being funny I am being truthful.

...and there's A LOT OF TALK, not as much action.

ALL men are obsessed with sex. This is natural as it is how man procreates. I think the difference is that most woman are not obsessed with sex so heterosexual men have to keep it reigned in somewhat.

Gays don't have to keep reigned in because those you are interested in are just as obsessed as you are so there is always sex to be had. The more sex you have the more sex you want and it just runs in a continuous circle.

Men have always seemed to be able to separate sex from love where woman don't seem to be able to do that.

I don't know about that, I know quite a few women in the 40 to 60 range that are more sex obsessed than most gay men I know. Since they confide in me about their sex life, I find it odd that my usual response is to slow the fuck down, you are out of control! These woman have destroyed their marriages to have affairs and claim its all because they NEED SEX! You would think at that age it would be dwindling down.

R45 gets it.

R48 is lying.

I was born in 1980. If i would I been born 15 years earlier, I probably would've seroconverted. I think about it all the time- how lucky my generation is to have escaped the horror of the generation before mine. Guys my age and older seem to be careful and use condoms because we saw people dying of AIDS. Younger guys (as a broad generalization) seem to be less careful- not only because of PrEP, but also because they didn't see the tragedy of the AIDS epidemic. Everyone can do what they want with their bodies, but I really wish we would all be better with condominium use.

Sorry to burst your bubble R50, the women I know who are older all seem to act like that. Except for the ones who are are still in a marriage and of course put up a front of perfect family. Single women of that age, OUT OF CONTROL!

It's a male thing. Straight men are dogs. They usually marry and build a family so they give the illusion they're more monogamous and controlled. There are married men and women who are worse than single ones. Some straight men claim though they still have to fuck a lot of women, they love the wives,they need a wife material at home. I wish only gay men were promiscuous.

Straight men do not stabilise sexual appetite into a reasonable sphere R45. Just look around you. They invented pornography. They pay for prostitutes. They abduct women and children and sell them into sex slavery. They rape and kill. What planet are you living on?

R54 Deflect, deflect. Gay men are just so perfect. 🙄DL feels like an alternative reality sometimes. I'm incredibly thankful to be married and off the dating scene. Most guys are so damaged mentally.

R53 = Deflecting.

It's a male condition - not a gay male condition.

R57 Why do gay men make up 55% of all HIV cases then?

Most men, gay and straight, are sex obsessed.

To get away from this American centric sphere for a moment to point out to the judgemental asexual pearl clutcher - on a world wide scale, AIDS/HIV is a predominately heterosexual disease. Unless, in racist America, poor brown people don't count as 'people'.

I guess the best way to deal with threads dominated by ignorant haters who seek only to cause argument , division and confusion is to just ignore them.

[61] here. I should have said 'ignorant right wing haters'.

Gay men are NOT obsessed with sex. It's all Gay Inc. Make gay men seem week and week so they need to have sex. It's ll BULLSHIT.

This reminds me of the line: "I know it's wrong to say that all gay men are obsessed with sex," says a character in Paul Rudnick's Off Broadway play "Jeffrey." "Because that's not true. All human beings are obsessed with sex. All gay men are obsessed with opera."

So there.

r64 But gay men have no OFF button. Get a GRIP.

R4 had the correct answer. Don't get why there are responses after this.

No morals. Bad priorities.

Here's a study on the frequency of various groups' sex habits.

From the article, "The frequency of gay male sex has been a political football for decades as antigay pundits pontificate about promiscuity. "Gay men tend to have more sex than straight men," Herbenick says, largely because gay male sex involves "two people who are biologically more likely to have more sex than women are.""

R66 doesn't make it right. Gay men lack emotional depth.

Gay men are their own worst enemies when it comes to HIV. And, y'all know I'm telling the damn truth. Gay culture is often so shallow and devoid of any depth. Note the over defensive replies.

I can't wait until the artificial uterus/asexual reproduction technology is perfected. That way, we can finally genetically edit out ALL reproductive functions from humans; aka the conservative puritan's dream

R58 because anal sex. The anus can develop small tears,and the infected semen passes. Gays engage in anal sex more than straights.

[quote]but I really wish we would all be better with condominium use.

I agree, r51. Please keep the common areas clean.

FYI, the OP who has been berating is for being shallow and sex-obsessed also posted the thread "Will people be able to smell my cum?" This is what he admits.

[quote]At work, I like to jerk off without using toilet paper or wipes to clean off the cum from my dick afterward.

So, R69, you are equating sex to emotional depth. While I would agree that sex is better with someone who you are really connected to (physically and emotionally), it doesn't mean that just physical (sans emotional connection) sex is bad or should be viewed as lacking "depth". Posters joke, but there is nothing wrong with being a "whore" (as long as you are safe and enjoying yourself). Men (all men) just like to fuck around. Given gays fuck other men, it kind of works out.

Biology OP.

Men are pigs and st8 men's urges are controlled by women and gay men's urges are not.

[quote]R29: So you're comparing an avoidable disease to a car accident? Smartttt

Yes, I am. You take risks every day of your life. Sometimes there are things you can do to mitigate your risk, like use condoms, seat belts, PrEP, and/or Subarus. I know I can avoid dying in a car accident if I simply stay home, but that's not practical. I also know I can avoid HIV. Why do you single out use of one type of prevention — or lack thereof — for particular ridicule? I think I know. In fact, I think everyone knows.

The self loathing on this thread is astonishing. Just when you think we've come a long way, you realize that we haven't really.

I don't think we're obsessed with men, we have a healthy relationship with it. If anything, normative culture is very anti-sex.

^ *obsessed with sex

I often wonder if that guy from Reddit who got his knob cut off in a circumcision accident as a child and can't ever have sex as a result, is also sex-obsessed. Does he even think about sex at all? Because if he [italic]doesn't,[/italic] that would mean that the rest of us have an incredible amount of our lifetime revolve around something as trivial as a collection of nerve endings. And it's always pretty much the same physiological response but boy do we like getting to it in a fresh way every single time, don't we?

I don't know, it's all just so... awfully mundane when you look at it that way, isn't it?

r75 = Whore

Why don't All people not in monogamous relationships just wear fucking condoms and aids would be a thing of the past after a few generations. Makes sense, but selfish fuckers just don't care about their own nor other peoples health.

Bump

Bi guy speaks out

What a negative thread to bump.

Why do celibates and virgins on DL think they can offer their opinions on sexuality, especially gay men's sexuality?