Sam Claflin Opens Up About Experiencing Body Shaming on Set: ‘I Felt Like a Piece of Meat’

So not cool. Not cool!

Screw the body-shaming; can we skip straight to the beard-shaming? Because that is some Johnny-Depp-channeling-Orlando-Bloom levels of pathetic beard growth. It's the first beard I've seen with its own combover. I've seen 12 year olds with more facial hair.

[quote] The actor points out that movie standards have changed over time.

[quote] "In the '50s and '60s, it was never an issue," he says. "James Bond never had a six pack. He had a hairy chest. Marlon Brando​ in A Streetcar Named Desire had an incredible body but he was by no means ripped to within an inch of his life. There's a filter on society that this is normal but actually it's anything but normal."

I absolutely love that he pointed this out, and he's 100% correct.

Today's standards are ridiculous and completely artificial. Actors need to reject this notion that their bodies have to be perfect.

Fuck that.

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and sometimes it doesn't even fit the character. Jake G. had a shirtless semi-nude scene in Nocturanal Animals and he was cut like a male model while the character was a writer.

He should worry less about his body and work more on that face.

Poor baby. Has it so rough. Maybe he'd like to trade places with a Yemeni or Afghani.

Honey, if you're being paid an unholy fortune to show up looking hot, you show up looking hot or you lose your fucking job!

He got off easy, and he's whining about it like a little girl.

He's a whiner.

A highly marbled piece of meat.

I've been there. It sucks.

I look decent, but not heart throb level physique.

Like bringing forth a compelling character isn't enough to contend with, I have to worry about that crap?!

Fuck that. I told my agent no more shirtless stuff. It's just not worth the angst.

Of course, they still ask every time, "Are you sure?"

Sam Claflin shouldn't be complaining about anything, he's way too fug to get away with being flabby.

He's right of course.

Just look at fatties DLers drooling over Instagram famewhores. Pathetic.

No wonder there's no more good actors at HW.

Oh man, what a sob story! I'll be weeping over it when I start my next unpaid professional internship! Boo fucking hoo!

R14 Get a six-pack and be an actor, loser.

Well come on... This is him.

I think he looks good with a little meat on him, per photo. Thinner, his face is gaunt.

The thing with Sam Clafin is that he has a beautiful face but an average male body. He didn't get both like some other actors/models do. So in order to get his body ready necessary for whatever roles he's going for, he needs to work extra, extra hard at the gym and starve to get even average results.

He's worth $50 million dollars so he hasn't done too badly for himself. I guess he can always cry into his many swimming pools...

I'm always wondering, are these numbers reliable? Can you really know how much worth an actor just looking at some random Internet site?

Finnick was a sex symbol role. Having a nice body was a requirement.

And everyone knows this happens with guys now along with girls. Get over it. It is the entertainment industry and people like seeing good looking people.

One can be good looking without looking like a steroid freak.

R15, you do it if you fucking care about it so much, asshole.

Bodies come and go. The face is what matters. He's cute in OP's photo and the same cute at R16.

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I'm so glad he finally opened up about this problem. I had no idea of the suffering he is going through

R24 What seems like a normal/good body in real life, is seen as fat/flabby in HW.

This crazy standard for movie/tv becomes the everyday standards for men.

It's not just about a guy whining about his overpaid job, it's about how you're not seen as attractive if you don't spend 5 hours each day at gym and eat something else than kale. It's about unhealthy standards if you're not a pro athlete.

I expect that from HW but not a web board full of shut-ins and Octogenarians who wished they looked that good.

I have seen all The Hunger Games movies. How come I don't remember him?

He must be killed early. Fat slow cow makes easy target?

R28 Cause he's not a good actor, maybe?

He's part of all these young actors hired for their looks. They all look the same and are all forgettable.

It's really hard for me to sympathize with young pretty rich people. Even if he may have a point that body image is an issue in today's media, it doesn't change the fact that he still got paid millions to do those shirtless roles; it comes off a little ungrateful.

FAT!

[quote]Even if he may have a point that body image is an issue in today's media, it doesn't change the fact that he still got paid millions to do those shirtless roles; it comes off a little ungrateful.

Right on the money R31.

On one hand it must suck to have someone come up to you and grab your love handles and tell you that you're too fat.

On the other hand, you're being paid a lot of money to look a certain way.

It's hard to feel bad for you when part of your job is to actually work out.

He was born with a perfect face. God forbid he should have to WORK for a good body. Imagine if he was born ugly, would he be on his 90th plastic surgery by now?

His stomach and hip area are really wide and womanly. I think his genetics are working against him. He doesn't have the Chris Hemsworth torso, but I do think he's very attractive.

I think men are now going through what women have experienced for some time in pop culture: A body ideal that is very difficult to achieve but presented as the norm.

With the advent of Instagram, there is now a level of competition among the posters and an anxious sense of inadequacy in the viewers.

And yet, it really is an issue for the Darfur Orphan since it exposes the superficiality of our values and priorities, as well as the inherent narcissism in both social media and entertainment.

Fat stupid pig.

The reality is the audience isn't really going to feel sympathy. That is part of going into that business, you will be judged and hired based on how you look and whether it is what they want for the role.

I wonder what role he's talking about. He definitely had to be thin and fit for Hunger Games and maybe SWATH, not sure what else. At least he acknowledges it's not as bad as what the women experience.

God you people are cunts.

[quote]I have seen all The Hunger Games movies. How come I don't remember him?

He was a terrible Finnick IMO. Though a lot of that is due to the writing of the character, they didn't really translate it that well from who Finnick was in the books.

How fucking hard is liposuction?

Obviously modeling is different but maybe things are slowly changing?

[quote]Fashion models in France will need to provide medical certificates proving they are healthy in order to work, after a new law was introduced banning those considered to be excessively thin.

[quote]A further measure, to come into force on 1 October, will require magazines, adverts and websites to mark images in which a model’s appearance has been manipulated with the words photographie retouchée (retouched photograph).

That's a shitty looking beard. And he wasn't who I pictured for the part when I read Hunger Games.

Casting Call Woe

I met Gregg Sulkin on Saturday at a convention in Philly. He was so sweet and that voice was sexy as hell. We were talking about his new show and he said that he starts filming in a few weeks. He said he needs to lose some more weight because he has a lot of shirtless scenes. Now he was wearing a tight white shirt. He looked great but I guess the pressure to look perfect is there.

He is sexy. But he still needs to put on some muscle and loose some fat.

He looks perfectly FINE in those pictures at R16 and R24.

It's fucking Hollywood that's telling people it's not okay to look like a NORMAL human being.

That's part of why our society is so fucked up with eating disorders, plastic surgery freaks, and body shaming.

The real joke is that most of the people criticizing these actors probably look like Donald Trump or worse. It's hilarious that you have someone whose looks are a 2/10, telling someone else that they're fat and unattractive.

Now THAT'S some irony!

I'm 50, and while I try to keep my weight down a bit and always have, I've never worried about having a "perfect" body. When I was late teens-early 20s, no guy I knew was worried about it. You didn't want to be FAT ( I mean like obese) but that age group today is something else. My stepson and his friends are in their early 20s and NONE of them are fat, but I've heard them moaning about being fat. We even had to have a talk with the stepson because he was getting too skinny and still thought he was fat!

Definitely gay. No straight man ever referred to his shirt as a "top."

Drop the "T".

Sam needs to take a positive attitude about it instead of hating the role of fit role model.

And he has much more to worry about with his receding hairline.

[quote]And he has much more to worry about with his receding hairline.

At this rate he can get the Gandolfini and Giamatti roles, maybe even Jason Alexander or Wallace Shawn if he's comedically inclined.

I'm kind of amazed that everyone takes it as gospel that it's so much worse for women. Who had to put in more effort for their Marvel movies, Chris Pratt or Zoe Saldana? Or Chris Evans compared to ScarJo?

Female action stars have to achieve a fit, "I do an hour of cardio and a little weight training" body. They don't have to look like Olympic athletes. The men do.

First you cry, Sam!

What a whiny little pussy bitch.

That isn't a standard case though r54. No one denies say the Marvel demands, their guys (yes ALL of them) have to get chemical help to look the way they are expected to.

In general though it doesn't quite work that way. All women in the entertainment industry need to be very thin, period. Women who aren't thin are only useful for niche parts. It isn't as strict with men overall.

R54 - gross exaggeration but maybe there is a point in there somewhere.

What bugs me is that Finnick's actor needed to be ripped but yet Katniss was allowed to be played by an actress who was not skinnier? Nor did she try to be as skinny as Katniss is stated to be in the books. If Finnick's actor had to put in effort to look a certain way then the same rules should have been applied to Katniss'. This whole "it wouldn't be good to make Jennifer lose a lot of weight because girls struggle with their body image" argument is stupid when other actors needed to lose weight to fit their characters. Actresses and actors have to lose and gain weight all the time for roles. It's part of the business.

The whole point of the Finnick character (in the books anyway, the movie ruined him) is he uses his sexiness as a weapon. Him being good looking is a defining aspect of the character.

I never understood why people wanted Katniss to look superthin. She is supposed to be athletic and decently fit, she hunts her own food and isn't limited to some poor rations.

She was thin and starving at one point, but that was years before the story started.

She was well fit.

Go on a diet, lard bottom.

[quote]All women in the entertainment industry need to be very thin, period. Women who aren't thin are only useful for niche parts. It isn't as strict with men overall.

This is why no studio will ever greenlight a comedy starring Melissa McCarthy or Amy Schumer.

Who forces that poor guy to audition for movies that exploit his body? I don't get guys like him or Kit Harington. Instead of whining just take a stand and say No! to roles that they believe demean them. But then it's big money vs. fighting unrealistic beauty standards.

"This is why no studio will ever greenlight a comedy starring Melissa McCarthy or Amy Schumer."

Pretty sure that can be filed under "niche parts."

[quote]"I remember doing one job when they literally made me pull my shirt up and were grabbing my fat and going, 'You need to lose a bit of weight.' This other time they were slapping me. I felt like a piece of meat."

Finnick is very explicitly described in "Mockingjay" AS a piece of meat--because he's so sexy and muscular, as well as famous for having won the Hunger Games one year, he's well compensated in the Capitol as an escort for both men and women.

Did he think he was playing Al Bundy when he accepted the role? I have zero sympathy for him for that role. If you want to play Finnick, you'd better be ripped.

At least he CARES about his weight!

His body is fine. His face looks strange from the side.

Body shaming? BWAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Exactly r65. He knew he was competing for a character that is meant to be a beefcake. If you didn't want that role, don't go for it.

It is absurd because every actor in LA wanted that role and his ass somehow managed to land it, and here he is complaining "wah, it made me feel bad that they wanted me to look good shirtless"

R64, both of those actresses get leading roles in major studio releases. They're not relegated to sidekick roles or only getting leading parts in indies. If they qualify for niche roles, then there aren't any roles that don't fit that standard.

Is "shame" edible?

It's like he's Val Kilmer without Batman or Willow, but with extra lard on his lard sandwich.0

I don't have much sympathy for Claflin. 1. Doubtless he made a ton of money on The Hunger Games movies. 2. There are plenty of roles that don't require a ripped physique and plenty of excellent young actors who don't have gym bodies and have carved out good careers for themselves. Ben Whishaw, Andrew Garfield, Gael Garcia Bernal, and Diego Luna come immediately to mind. 3. If it matters so much to him, how difficult is it to join a gym, eat right, and get in shape?

[quote] Finnick is very explicitly described in "Mockingjay" AS a piece of meat--because he's so sexy and muscular, as well as famous for having won the Hunger Games one year, he's well compensated in the Capitol as an escort for both men and women.

I think that Kellan Lutz would have been perfect for that role.

He's very familiar with playing that part in real life, after all.

[Quote] both of those actresses get leading roles in major studio releases. They're not relegated to sidekick roles or only getting leading parts in indies. If they qualify for niche roles, then there aren't any roles that don't fit that standard.

LOL

You cannot compete for roles as hunks and then complain that people on the set want you be to be in great shape. That makes no sense.

If he wants, he can do what Vincent d'Onofrio did--d'Onofrio also had a very short period of playing hunks (in films like "The Wide, Wode World" and "the Cell"), but he felt it was too much work to stay in shape and he bloated out. d'Onofrio is good enough an actor that he got cast in great character roles. Maybe Claflin has the chops to do the same. if not, he needs to shut up, avoid the pasta, and hit the gym. He didn't earn $50 million because of brilliant acting abilities or a beautiful speaking voice--he got it because he can look pretty with his shirt off.

R54, it's a limited class of films where the men are expected to look that unrealistic. Whereas women in even standard dramas or romantic comedies have to starve themselves to look like an "average" person.

R58, Katniss wasn't supposed to be emaciated at the time of the events of the movie. She's unusual in that she's not starving (because she can hunt for herself) and even though she's thin, she's also very strong. Frankly, having Lawrence play Katniss makes a hell of a lot more sense than having chickenbones Angelina Jolie play those characters in Wanted and Salt. Her fight scenes were fucking laughable. A woman who is physically strong is just not likely to look anorexic with zero muscle tone. Finnick on the other hand is supposed to be super athletic and a quick and skilled fighter. Men who fit that description are likely to be thin and ripped.

R70, even with their success those actresses are only getting a very limited class of roles.

R73 what a dumb list of comparative examples. They are all thin and wiry. Andrew Garfield has even a tight and ripped body sometimes.

R77, this isn't the stick-thin Ally McBeal era anymore. Jennifer Lawrence, ScarJo, Shailene Woodley, all stars of action franchises, aren't emaciated. They look like pretty young women who exercise and have a healthy diet. I don't know what to say if you think Shailene Woodley's body is that difficult to achieve for a woman her age, especially compared to how buff Theo James had to get to play opposite her.

And actresses like Schumer and McCarthy only get a limited class of roles, but so did Chris Farley and Kevin James. The point is that they're not excluded from starring in films because they don't conform to Hollywood's beauty standards. Every actor is only considered for certain roles, whether because of talent, persona, age, race or sex, so singling out those two as limited says nothing.

R43 "A further measure, to come into force on 1 October, will require magazines, adverts and websites to mark images in which a model’s appearance has been manipulated with the words photographie retouchée (retouched photograph)."

I wish they'd do that with celebrities. We'd never see another Kardashian photo again.

R79, as several of us have pointed out, the overall standards for women are much harsher. Using action movies or other films which inherently require a specific body type for examples is a distortion, since the real issue is body standards for "normal" roles. And don't know where you get the "I don't know what to say if you think Shailene Woodley's body is that difficult to achieve" from since no one's mentioned her. Shailene isn't exactly in high demand. But Emma Stone is.

Chris Farley and Kevin James get/got a limited class of roles, but John Goodman, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jonah Hill didn't/don't. There aren't too many talented heavy women who get the variety of roles they do. Matt, Ben and Leo can put on the pudge without putting their leading man statuses at risk. Can you imagine if Charlize, Sandra or Jennifer were seen with a beer gut?

There is a LOT more body diversity among male actors, lead and character, than women.

No, R81, you've repeated that as fact without backing it up. I gave you examples of women who star in major Hollywood franchises who have above-average bodies that are entirely achievable, and compared them to men who have to look like fitness models requiring a massive investment of effort. But, please, keep insisting that actresses have it so much harder than actors who have to do so much more. Robin Wright herself admitted during the "Wonder Woman" press tour that she was amazed how difficult it was to get in shape for that movie. Men have to put in more work to achieve what Hollywood demands.

And it's disingenuous to say that the standards apply to everything but action roles, when Hollywood releases mostly either action movies or comedies, and it's undeniable that comedies feature a diverse range of body types for men and women alike. The mid-budget Paramount thriller, for example, is dead.

No one mentioned Shailene until I did, but that's a convenient way of avoiding the issue. She is a star of a successful action franchise who merely had to remain in above-average shape, whereas her male costar had to be ripped. So how, exactly, are the standards for women so much harsher?

And I can remember when Charlize Theron appeared with a gut. She got an Oscar out of it. And whenever a leading man in his prime does that, they're probably going for the gold, too. It's either gain thirty pounds or lose it to get the statuette, and that's for men and women alike (De Niro and Theron for one, McConaughey and Portman for the other).

Philip Seymour Hoffman, Jonah Hill and John Goodman didn't get a limited class of roles? Are you fucking serious? All three are character actors, not any different from someone like Kathy Bates. They get the occasional leading role, but usually play supporting characters in major Hollywood releases. Are Hoffman's Hollywood roles really that different from what Bates got?

[Quote] But, please, keep insisting that actresses have it so much harder than actors who have to do so much more.

That's because actresses do have it harder. In fact, you don't even need to be an actress. Women get judged on their appearance everyday.

I was a very hot guy for 30 years and was judged on my appearance everyday. Then at 45, i hit the wall and became invisible. It was nice being judged on my appearance, and I miss it. Though I got mine so I can't really complain.

Are you a famous actor, R84???

Give us a hint!

Sam Claflin needs to shut his pretty pie-hole and get back to the gym.

chop-chop.

Oh for Chrissakes.

"Using action movies or other films *which inherently require a specific body type* for examples is a distortion, since the real issue is body standards for "normal" roles."

"And I can remember when Charlize Theron appeared with a gut. She got an Oscar out of it."

Charlize gained the weight to resemble A SPECIFIC PERSON.

And then:

"Chris Farley and Kevin James get/got a limited class of roles, but John Goodman, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jonah Hill didn't/don't. There aren't too many talented heavy women who get the variety of roles they do."

"Philip Seymour Hoffman, Jonah Hill and John Goodman didn't get a limited class of roles? Are you fucking serious? All three are character actors, not any different from someone like Kathy Bates."

You came up with one woman in response.

I read a magazine interview with him last year and he was lamenting about his low leading man status in Hollywood. He said he only received scripts all the top stars and ones a bit lower passed on. I know that's usually how it works, but he sounded douchey about it and his "first world problems". I don't remember the name of the publication, I'll have to look it up.

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It's nice that the interviewer deleted the sobbing "... and then he raped me!" punchline of this drama queen actor's interview.

I fucking love R42

And also R90.

HIs wife is gorgeous. She was Peter Quill's mom on GOTG.

...and these attitudes are why you're not going to see a lot more male full frontal in movies.

At least involving good actors

R94 Just had to ruin the fantasy 😒

I saw My Cousin Rachel. Claflin ruined the film. He can't act his way out of a paper bag. Total fashion model pretending to be an actor.

Realistically, how many hours per day would a 35 y o man have to put into gym time to maintain an ideal body (assuming a low cal diet)?

Sam has beautiful child-bearing hips at R89.

Interesting face.

Oh wow, that garden gnome thinks he's people! Give him a biscuit, or cracker, or whatever the fuck they eat in Middle Earth.

About his haircut in the OP, my Ma once remarked on a similar haircut: "In my day, we wouldn't go out of the house with hair like that."

I avoid pools and beaches because: 1) I'm pale; 2) I'm a bit pudgy; and 3) I don't workout.

Also I have a little hair on my back. What's the point of waxing when it just grows back?

[quote] Oh wow, that garden gnome thinks he's people! Give him a biscuit, or cracker, or whatever the fuck they eat in Middle Earth.

Lembas bread.

And more lembas bread.

Oh am we taste manflesh occasionally.

Trashy looking.

r54, but women have to fuck with their face eventually, while it's okay for a guy to age and still be considered handsome.

Trailer for his new movie with DL foe Shailene Woodley.

This guy is such a douche bag, who cares?

[quote]my Ma once remarked on a similar haircut: "In my day, we wouldn't go out of the house with hair like that."

Your ma never excelled much at originality did she?

Sad for someone like him -- not American, young, 'hot' actor, male, able-bodied -- to be so fat. 15% body fat isn't that hard.

Looking good but he pretty much has the same facial expression in all of the photos. Why didn't the photographer tell him to switch it up a bit? It's not like he's an A-lister who can't be criticized.

🔥

When will men learn that the only thing that looks good with a beer belly is a beercan cock.

oh misread--if you give yourself a whores body people treat you like a whore

R16 I think the problem is, a lot of famous guys would look average body-wise without the steroid work. In other words, this is a way to make an average body look hot. Or what passes as hot today.

Having a hot natural body is rare. It requires great bone structure, beautiful proportions. You don't need gym work to the max then, just keep in shape.

For women, it's being skinny. A lot of actresses are really average, they are seen as hot only because they are very thin.