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What is a Social Media Influencer? Why is Cameron Dallas Famous?

I don't really get it. Don't you have to have a talent before you can be famous? I'm confused by this idea that you have to make it as a social media star in order to parlay that into a successful career doing something else. This type of "career" only seems to reward those who are good looking. Do young people even care about following people who have a discernible talent other than showing off their abs?

I watched an episode of Chasing Cameron out of curiosity and Cameron Dallas talks as if he's building this huge media empire by basically being a sell out to bigger brands, yet he doesn't display any unique ability whatsoever or have a life story that is in any way inspiring. Am I missing something?

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by Anonymousreply 42September 12, 2021 4:16 PM

[quore]Don't you have to have a talent before you can be famous?

Nope. It's a different world now. All shit.

by Anonymousreply 1May 27, 2017 1:52 AM

[quote] Don't you have to have a talent before you can be famous?

Just how long did your cryogenic sleep last?

by Anonymousreply 2May 27, 2017 1:54 AM

If it's any consolation, OP, I have no idea who or what a Cameron Dallas is or what it does. Until I read your post I'd never seen his name before.

by Anonymousreply 3May 27, 2017 2:01 AM

Isn't he a rentboy?

by Anonymousreply 4May 27, 2017 2:05 AM

Back in my day, celebrities used to be talented.

by Anonymousreply 5May 27, 2017 2:07 AM

R3 Just another in a long line of Instagram stars who've hit it big and who are building their brand across social media. It seems like a Youtube celebrity is created when advertisers take notice and then buy and repackage them for their own purposes. These "celebs" are literally selling themselves to the highest bidder since they can't produce anything substantial on their own. It's commercialism in its most cynical form since the only thing they are promoting are themselves and their shallow lifestyles , which none of their fans could hope to afford. They are basically living in a commercial 24/7. If they are selling sex, they are doing it in the most circuitous way possible

I didn't care so much about Cameron Dallas or his stable until after I saw his Netflix show where he comes off worse than I could have imagined. He doesn't seem to be in it for any other reason than to help himself, and doesn't appear to care that much about his fans who pay money for meet and greets.

by Anonymousreply 6May 27, 2017 7:18 AM

Here's a recent New Yorker article showing how an "influencer" develops.

Basically you have people with niche interests who develop followings of like minded people. Once they have a community/following, they attract companies who pay them to mention their products, thus "influencing" their followers.

Think of YouTube channels, blogs, podcasts, Instagram profiles etc that talk about technology, vegetarians, certain kinds of crafts, whatever.

And yes, among those are many vapid, status and appearance focused "lifestyle" influencers who appeal to the most shallow and materialistic people, but those are the people who buy the most shit.

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by Anonymousreply 7May 27, 2017 7:44 AM

We have all thread about him.

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by Anonymousreply 8May 27, 2017 8:00 AM

"We have all thread about him." What language were you going for there?

by Anonymousreply 9May 27, 2017 8:04 AM

[quote]I don't really get it. Don't you have to have a talent before you can be famous?

He does have a talent, even if you don't see it. That talent is: getting young people to listen to him and buy whatever product he is selling by using it or being part of it etc. Basically these kids want to be him or rather the him he is presenting to you. Netflix thought he could bring in viewers because of his social media following.

Actors/Celebrities are on this train now as well. Colton Haynes is a great example. Cameron on the other hand is doing it backwards. It can work both ways.

[quote]I'm confused by this idea that you have to make it as a social media star in order to parlay that into a successful career doing something else.

Like anything else it can help. You go from one thing to the next. Maybe if people like you when you're doing one thing, like youtube videos, those same people will want to watch you do something else like acting.

[quote]This type of "career" only seems to reward those who are good looking.

Not necessarily. There are many influencers who are not necessarily good looking. Look at Linus from Linus' tech tips. I actually think he's kind of cute but people buy what he's selling because they think he's knowledgeable about the subject. He went from being an employee at another company reviewing products to having his own production company with his own staff and they are successful.

[quote]Do young people even care about following people who have a discernible talent other than showing off their abs?

Yes. They care about people who are good at doing makeup. They care about people who are up on technology. Casey Neistat is not good lucking but he now has a news career because of his ability to "influence" other other people just by talking about himself. His audience "agrees" with him. You were a teenager once, was there anyone you liked a lot who wasn't that great at acting or performing or doing whatever?

The thing is: I don't think these people aren't talented. I just think their talent isn't something that easily translates for people who grew up without internet.

[quote]I watched an episode of Chasing Cameron out of curiosity and Cameron Dallas talks as if he's building this huge media empire by basically being a sell out to bigger brands, yet he doesn't display any unique ability whatsoever or have a life story that is in any way inspiring. Am I missing something?

It's not about his life's story. It's about people wanting to be him and people trusting him.

An actor is a person giving a performance. We know it's not authentic. An influencer's job is to be or seem authentic so that people trust them. It helps if you're good looking. It helps if you actually know what you're talking about.

Check out this guy for instance at Unbox Therapy. He posts a video and 24 hours later almost A MILLION people have viewed it. The products come from companies that want him to talk about it. He does give mostly honest opinions. That's what companies want to tap into. His viewers trust him.

It's not too far fetched that he could be approached to do a series where he does the same thing thus spinning some of that viewership into TV dollars.

It's a new world. You may not like it but you've gotta keep up.

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by Anonymousreply 10May 27, 2017 9:05 AM

Thank you R10. You did an amazing job explaining the concept of influencers and the current state of media.

I wanted to add that Cameron Dallas's appeal is to 12 year old girls. That's his audience. (Well, and some DL pedo, but we will not dwell on that.)

There have always been handsome, hairless young men who have become tween heartthrobs based on the image the project.

And he did have the gumption (love that old-timey word) to make his Vine videos, get them online and build up an audience. He got the right management too, they've put him in vehicles (movies and TV shows) that are well-suited to his limited range and if he's interested he can learn on the job. Or not, and keep on making these types of movies/TV shows.

by Anonymousreply 11May 27, 2017 9:47 AM

It's advertising in the social media age. It's not that different from ads featuring celebrities. Nowdays the average Joe or Jane can have have fans / followers on social media and convince some of them to buy the product he or she is paid to shill on their social media accounts.

by Anonymousreply 12May 27, 2017 10:16 AM

R12 I do get that but I never really liked it even when celebs and athletes were doing it. At least they were making a living doing something worthwhile.

R10 The fact that they pretend to be authentic makes it that much worse. Perhaps it was true when they first started but their success depends on their entire lives being manufactured. I admit I haven't kept up with tech vloggers and have relied solely on consumer review websites for product reviews, but I would bet that most of them are either paid professionals or must make a lot of money in order to keep up with such an expensive hobby. I won't knock this guy you mentioned, maybe his channel is really enlightening. I do admit to enjoying various film related Youtube channels and find them both funny and interesting, but their fan bases are comparatively small.

I admit that I used to crush on the latest teen stars on whatever sitcom was on back in the day, but they were at least known for something other than self promotion.

by Anonymousreply 13May 27, 2017 8:27 PM

[quote]The fact that they pretend to be authentic makes it that much worse. Perhaps it was true when they first started but their success depends on their entire lives being manufactured.

Yeah, R13. This is exactly it. No one started out that way. Cameron has been around a very long time. I think there's a change happening where platforms have attracted so many people that they are saturated with people like him. If you got on the Vine or Youtube train early and were interesting enough there was a chance for success based just on that. Some of the Vine people (since it's gone now) managed to parlay their success into real jobs behind the scenes with companies. A lot of them turned out to be great storytellers or good at connecting with what younger people want to see. Youtube is a heavily saturated market now and the biggest "stars" started out early and have huge followings. PewDiePie was a great example but he screwed up his own "brand" by being antisemitic while working with Disney.

Also you also have people like Shawn Mendes who was discovered on Vine of all places and has managed to build a career from that and Justin Bieber who was discovered on Youtube. Those platforms allowed them both to connect with the right people and few people who know them now even know that's where they came from.

by Anonymousreply 14May 28, 2017 1:17 AM

Actually, there is no concrete evidence whatsoever that "influencers" create any sales of actual product or that any buzz they produce actually moves anyone to do anything. It's a meaningless buzzword, and the trend is already dying out.

by Anonymousreply 15May 28, 2017 1:49 AM

I think alot also has to do with the fact that more young children are getting smartphones. My five year old niece has a smart phone and my cousins (a bit older) have smartphones and ipods. They watch alot of kids on youtube and then also follow them on instagram.

by Anonymousreply 16May 28, 2017 2:02 AM

I've seen many ads on Craigslist asking for anyone with "X" number of followers. Sometimes they list a specific age range or background. Assume they scan basic info about the people that choose to follow each candidate to see if that's what each advertiser seeks.

by Anonymousreply 17May 28, 2017 2:09 AM

Cameron is fascinating to look at because he has the Cupid's bow lips, large innocent eyes and chubby cheeks of a toddler, on a young man's body.

I believe NPR did a story about influencers recently and specifically #vanlife. The reality is that most social media stars make very little money and need to keep up retail/service industry jobs to make rent. The most successful #vanlife couple spend all their time planning the perfect image and then running it by marketers to get approval before posting. It's pathetic and soulless.

by Anonymousreply 18May 28, 2017 2:11 AM

[quote]Actually, there is no concrete evidence whatsoever that "influencers" create any sales of actual product or that any buzz they produce actually moves anyone to do anything. It's a meaningless buzzword, and the trend is already dying out.

Actually R15 that's not the case. If you've been on Twitter you've seen more companies like Pizza Hut use social influencers to make videos of them doing funny things with their products. They're not the first at all.

Twitter and (it was just recently announced) that Facebook are allowing for the monitization of videos by influencers (and other people) and companies will tap into that.

Smart Water started hiring people to promote their products a few months back. Blue Apron has been pulling that stunt for months.

NBC employs them to promote specials. I was asked to do three recently.

Warner Brothers hired them recently to promote a couple of films - a few of which I was offered.

Remember Hillary's emails? We found out in one of them that her campaign recruited social media influencers talk about her.

It's not going anywhere.

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by Anonymousreply 19May 28, 2017 4:04 AM

Fyre Festival utilized influencers to great effect!

by Anonymousreply 20May 28, 2017 7:49 AM

Hi. My name is Shauna James Ahern. I am alive.

I have been alive since August of 1966. Or, should I say, I have been on this earth since then.

I haven’’t always been alive. For much of my life, I felt lousy. Low in energy. Sick and sometimes depressed. I didn’’t know why.

Still, I survived. And I laughed deep from my belly, in most moments of the day.

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by Anonymousreply 21May 28, 2017 8:05 AM

Girl?!? That's stretching it.

by Anonymousreply 22May 28, 2017 8:20 AM

[quote] [R12] I do get that but I never really liked it even when celebs and athletes were doing it. At least they were making a living doing something worthwhile.

Quite frankly I don't see the difference, because in both cases it comes down to "Oh, so-and-so is endorsing this product, so it must be good and I'll sure give it a try". It's manipulation of, well, certain (easy to manipulate) people. I don't see the point of making a distinction between people with talent and people with no talent who still manage some people to get manipulated into buying stuff. Both sell out to sell / shill.

by Anonymousreply 23May 28, 2017 8:59 AM

The scary thing is that it has come to the point where internet users look for advice from not so reliable sources. And in some cases they don't even know that they are taking advice at all and just being manipulated. I think a great deal of humanity is doomed.

Thanks to social media a great deal of humans mistake all this oversharing and overreacting as support and compassion.

Memes are now marketing campaigns hoping to get viral. Followers are power. Facebook and Twitter re-tweets represent public opinion.

It gives regular people a taste for power and on one hand that might be good, but on the other pretty much all of us have trouble adjusting. Like when you win the lottery and people don't know how to deal with that in a rational way and instead waste it all away and in the end are worse off than before they won. It's the same with people who felt powerless now all of a sudden feeling they have power and don't know how to really make it work for them so they can maintain it and expand.

by Anonymousreply 24May 28, 2017 9:11 AM

One thing that I noticed about Cameron, when I followed him: He seemed to be unable to carry on a linear conversation with his family. He would have to jump teasing one family member to the next one, in hopes of posting it on IG or Snapchat. He's mind-bogglingly hot and rich now, but that's kind of a sad existence for a 22 year old.

by Anonymousreply 25May 28, 2017 2:55 PM

ACTUALLY R19 it is 100% the case. There is no evidence it works and it's on the wain.

by Anonymousreply 26May 28, 2017 2:57 PM

[quote]ACTUALLY [R19] it is 100% the case.

Actually it isn't but you keep on trying hun!

by Anonymousreply 27May 28, 2017 3:00 PM

Whatever HUN. Stupid cunts like you = BLOCKED.

by Anonymousreply 28May 28, 2017 3:07 PM

A bunch of nobodies pretending to be somebodies in a swirling vortex of meaninglessness. If the power goes down and their phones disconnect they will all be dead in a week.

by Anonymousreply 29May 28, 2017 3:08 PM

I won't mention the channel but there is a couple that recently had a baby. The mother is a 'model' and the father is a video editor so of course they are shilling products and preparing to start foisting their own product upon their frau fan-base who are hooked on the mother's make up tutorials and the baby's cuteness.

So the guy is basically pimping out his wife and baby daughter while he gets to video them all day buying products and eating.

Welcome to the New World.

by Anonymousreply 30May 28, 2017 3:20 PM

For makeup lines, most of the makeup that these influencers push are old makeup under new names that the influencer supposedly helped develop. I just saw a video where they had 3 different makeup pallette swith the same exact makeup under three different names for the three different influencers. Yes I am jealous and I want their money. In case you have not been on YouTube lately, there are a lot of male influencers that do you makeup

by Anonymousreply 31May 28, 2017 9:26 PM

Inspiring

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by Anonymousreply 32April 1, 2021 9:05 AM

Good explanation R7. Simple and clear. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 33April 1, 2021 9:26 AM

Why is he famous?

Because some stupid fattards somewhere have to start a thread about him.

by Anonymousreply 34April 1, 2021 9:56 AM

PLEASE, he doesn't have ANY talent. He's "good-looking." PERIODT.

by Anonymousreply 35April 1, 2021 9:57 AM

Comps

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by Anonymousreply 36September 12, 2021 4:05 PM

I long for the days or Brenda Frazier. Or Liz Renay.

by Anonymousreply 37September 12, 2021 4:05 PM

This is why Cameron Dallas is " famous."

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by Anonymousreply 38September 12, 2021 4:12 PM

The no pubes trend is gross.

by Anonymousreply 39September 12, 2021 4:14 PM

Who??

by Anonymousreply 40September 12, 2021 4:14 PM

He sucked the right dick.

by Anonymousreply 41September 12, 2021 4:15 PM

R38 nobody has an account at that stupid site. Can you just post the content without that site

by Anonymousreply 42September 12, 2021 4:16 PM
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