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Aaron Hernandez's Brokeback Mountain, Part 2, (Homothug Edition)

Let us continue our deeply important analysis and discussion of the late Aaron Hernandez's apparent homosexual love triangle, with his long-time secret love and ride or die bitch Ryan McDonnell, and new flame Kyle Kennedy.

The tea was spilling all over the place last week, but the lawyers have slowed it to a trickle now. Time and the inevitable lawsuits against the prison will reveal a complicated story of gay thug passion and the man willing to kill to keep it a secret!

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by Anonymousreply 591February 14, 2019 9:12 PM

I was wondering when you guys would get to Part II.

by Anonymousreply 1May 3, 2017 1:48 AM

Yeah OP, thanks. I'm the OP of the first thread.

by Anonymousreply 2May 3, 2017 1:53 AM

Badr's in prison, no?

by Anonymousreply 3May 3, 2017 1:56 AM

McDonnell has the classic "porn bottom" face and body.

by Anonymousreply 4May 3, 2017 1:57 AM

I bet Aaron was a big sloppy bottom.

by Anonymousreply 5May 3, 2017 1:59 AM

The title of the thread is kind of homophobic - Brokeback? Maybe it should have been deeper, something like "Midnight Shirley Express". If you're going to use Brokeback maybe "The Brokeback Redemption" would have been funnier. And, they're always "sagas". "Part 2 of the Aaron Hermandez/Ryan McDowell/Kyle Kennedy saga"

by Anonymousreply 6May 3, 2017 2:03 AM

Wide Receiver: The Aaron Hernandez story

by Anonymousreply 7May 3, 2017 2:05 AM

r7 have you seen Kyle and Ryan? Aaron died a tight end.

by Anonymousreply 8May 3, 2017 2:06 AM

Wishful thinking. Bottom bitch thug

by Anonymousreply 9May 3, 2017 2:07 AM

I have high expectations. Part of the allure of the Aaron Rodgers saga were the thread titles. A great title can make or break a thread.

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by Anonymousreply 10May 3, 2017 2:08 AM

r6, "saga" to too soft was word for homothug gangsters like Aaron who would put a cap in your ass. Aaron Rodgers is worthy of "saga"!

by Anonymousreply 11May 3, 2017 2:09 AM

"too soft a word"

by Anonymousreply 12May 3, 2017 2:10 AM

Lmao!

Saga is very Lifetime Original!

by Anonymousreply 13May 3, 2017 2:10 AM

[quote]Badr's in prison, no?

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by Anonymousreply 14May 3, 2017 2:22 AM

Brilliant intro OP! And thanks to the OP of Thread #1, one of the best around here in a long time. This one is off to a great start.

On a serious note... as I mentioned in the previous thread, I want to know more about the illuminati wall drawings. Was the Daily Mail the first to report on that?

by Anonymousreply 15May 3, 2017 2:26 AM

Carrying over...

[quote]It seems far-fetched that Kyle committed a crime in order to get into prison with Aaron. There is no way anyone could guarantee that, assuming that MA has more than one maximum security prison, and I imagine it does.

MA has two....sort of. Walpole these days is pretty much a glorified intake center, and all roads lead to the newer, fancier Shirley max. As someone on the last thread said, Kyle was an escape risk, which would get him fast-tracked to Shirley.

by Anonymousreply 16May 3, 2017 2:27 AM

Kyle most likely knew what it took to get himself transferred. I mean how dumb is it to escape from prison and then WALK HOME?

Surely he knew he'd be captured.

by Anonymousreply 17May 3, 2017 2:30 AM

Kathy Curran broke the pyramid/illuminati and the clean tox, r15.

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by Anonymousreply 18May 3, 2017 2:32 AM

I think y'all are thinking too hard about this Illuminati thing. I doubt there's any deeper meaning behind it.

by Anonymousreply 19May 3, 2017 2:36 AM

Thanks R18. You could be right R19, but I still think it's strange. What was his point in drawing those images with his own blood? Was he trying to warn someone of something, or declaring his allegiance to someone...there had to be a reason behind it. He knew he was on close watch so every minute was valuable if he was going to pull off a suicide...he used valuable time to do those drawings so I think there had to be some reason or meaning behind it.

by Anonymousreply 20May 3, 2017 2:52 AM

I don't see AH family running to deny the bi allegations nor do I hear his lawyer denying it. All the lawyer said was that Aaron didn't leave a letter to a prison lover. The only people attacking McPhee are the ones who don't want to believe someone as tough looking as AH was into dudes, and those who think it's offensive for her to discuss his sexuality with no sensitivity (which is true).

The backlash she's getting for this article is perhaps why the prosecution didn't bother using it in the case. There was already sooo much evidence implicating AH, that they didn't need to explore this area.

by Anonymousreply 21May 3, 2017 2:59 AM

Thank you to both OP and the OP of the original thread with the brilliant video outlining the history of the great love affair which originated in Bristol.

I think that the titling is correct, since this is part 2. And for the critic who deems it homophobic, I don't get it. The whole point of the original was the homage to the McConnell-Hernandez love affair set against the background score of Brokeback Mountain.

by Anonymousreply 22May 3, 2017 3:00 AM

Every picture I see of Ryan McDonnell sets off my gaydar.

Since the first sources of this alleged 'gay prison lover' where from prison guards, I wonder if the people in charge stepped in to ensure that no one talks to the press at all. I could imagine a lawsuit if the families felt that their criminal's privacy was not being respected. Although, since every court agrees that being in prison means having one's rights stripped away, does that mean that what happens in Oz is for all to see?

by Anonymousreply 23May 3, 2017 3:23 AM

[quote]The only people attacking McPhee are the ones who don't want to believe someone as tough looking as AH was into dudes, and those who think it's offensive for her to discuss his sexuality with no sensitivity (which is true).

No, they're not the only people; there are many, [italic]many[/italic] people who are from Boston -- and who perhaps work in areas that involve dealing with the local media -- who recognize her for exactly what she is.

by Anonymousreply 24May 3, 2017 3:44 AM

R24 What exactly do they recognize her to be? Is she not considered a credible journalist? I'm genuinely curious.

by Anonymousreply 25May 3, 2017 3:55 AM

I'm not getting into anything that I know firsthand, or even any specifics, because there are people here who believe she's going to come to a gay site (dragging the ghost of Fred Phelps behind her, no doubt) and spill all of her secrets as long as we don't say anything to hurt her wittle fee fees.

You can search her name on the last thread and see a few examples of why there's so much disdain for her in MA.

by Anonymousreply 26May 3, 2017 4:12 AM

Anyone who listens to her for a few seconds knows what kind of character she is which is why people don't like her. The only reason I consider her a reputable source is that she was pretty much the person who started this whole thing and everything she has said so far has been right.

Shes not a big sports fan and I dont think she cares enough about the case that she would make up something out of the blue.

She likely decided to stop talking about it for now because she got backlash from major media and getting death threats.

by Anonymousreply 27May 3, 2017 4:14 AM

Shirley Max can't surely still be in lockdown can it. And poor baby Kyle is probably still on suicide watch. If I was the family I would sue. He's being held against his will in isolation for no reason.

by Anonymousreply 28May 3, 2017 4:15 AM

They went off lockdown on Friday night.

by Anonymousreply 29May 3, 2017 4:17 AM

r29 Source? I believe you, I just been on this case for so long i can't believe I missed that.

by Anonymousreply 30May 3, 2017 4:18 AM

Will Kyle have to be somebody else's bitch now?

by Anonymousreply 31May 3, 2017 4:19 AM

I have this theory Kyle only fucked Aaron because of who he was. Keep in mind that Aaron was a huge star in the New England area and everyone around that area roots for the Patriots.

But theres always a possibility that Aaron's golden dick converted him.

by Anonymousreply 32May 3, 2017 4:21 AM

R31 for protection Kyle would need to become the bitch of a respected/feared inmate.

by Anonymousreply 33May 3, 2017 4:33 AM

Basically he needs to find another Aaron.

by Anonymousreply 34May 3, 2017 4:34 AM

Sorry, R30, but I have no online source; just what I heard from a client. Medium, max, and the mail-sorting facility were swept for contraband, with the focus on K2-soaked paper.

by Anonymousreply 35May 3, 2017 4:35 AM

r35 Can your source find an inmate whos gonna get the tea.

by Anonymousreply 36May 3, 2017 4:41 AM

You bitches are late. I've been into this story since he first went to jail.

by Anonymousreply 37May 3, 2017 8:49 AM

McPhee is not the only journalist working this story. The Daily Mail, for example, are the ones who identified Kyle Kennedy. McPhee may be hugely unlikeable, but she's getting heat from other news sources -- The New Yorker, for example -- because she's here in this country and they think that they can pressure her. Other reporters are not saying that McPhee and the Daily Mail are factually wrong, they just don't like that it's been put out there.

by Anonymousreply 38May 3, 2017 1:36 PM

Radar is awful. They are just regurgitating old info.

Aaron Hernandez’s Prison Boy Toy On Suicide Watch

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by Anonymousreply 39May 3, 2017 3:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 40May 3, 2017 4:05 PM

The CTE results are going to be a huge player in this whole story. I wonder if the NFL is concerned, they certainly don't need more press about the irreparable damage all those head hits cause to the human beings that are part of the game. Does anyone know if any of the guys he played with have made public statements?

by Anonymousreply 41May 3, 2017 4:39 PM

[quote]Does anyone know if any of the guys he played with have made public statements?

Why would they? It seems like the NFL and Pats are trying to pretend like he never happened since the suicide.

by Anonymousreply 42May 3, 2017 5:46 PM

Because of the bisexuality, R42?

by Anonymousreply 43May 3, 2017 5:55 PM

R43 hardly. More like they got scammed into giving a psychopath a $40mm contract and made Kraft look like a fool.

by Anonymousreply 44May 3, 2017 7:08 PM

And r42, the Pats have been pretending he never happened since the day he was arrested for Odin Lloyd's murder

by Anonymousreply 45May 3, 2017 7:13 PM

RIP AH

by Anonymousreply 46May 3, 2017 7:44 PM

Considering what a big guy Aaron was, I'm wildly curious to know how big his cock was. Probably uncut too, right?

by Anonymousreply 47May 3, 2017 8:52 PM

Look at any one of his numerous VPL pics and guesstimate.

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by Anonymousreply 48May 3, 2017 9:07 PM

Was he naked here?

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by Anonymousreply 49May 3, 2017 9:08 PM

A guy with the username Ayo (it's a hip hop forum I think?) says he has connections at Shirley and heard some rumors about the possible reason for the suicide. It's interesting, but no way to verify of course.

---"Supposedly....ahern was about to catch a charge in prison that would expose him and the rumors of this charge is what had everyone digging around in his alternative lifestyle. Reporters started to dig around and he caught wind of it and knew the jig was about to be up

The charge and the news story leaks would eventually get to the bloods he was hanging around with. Making prison life and the wait for an appeal unbearable. So he offed himself."---

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by Anonymousreply 50May 3, 2017 9:57 PM

Is that Ryan in the background? Looks like him at least.

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by Anonymousreply 51May 3, 2017 10:06 PM

R49 You can briefly see his red shorts.

I have to give it up to Ryan McDonnell's fiancée, with all these rumors floating around she still trust her man enough to marry him.

by Anonymousreply 52May 3, 2017 10:17 PM

Do you think Kyle misses that thick,uncut salami?

by Anonymousreply 53May 3, 2017 10:19 PM

He's american, what makes you think he's uncut?

If Ryan is the HS sweetheart, then he got lots of money from the deposit. Ryan's future wife isn't that stupid. she's probably thinking, I'm gonna marry him, stick it out for a few years, pop out a kid or two and get the money in the divorce.

by Anonymousreply 54May 3, 2017 10:24 PM

Damn, I wonder if AH took the longest time in the group showers, checking out everyone's asses LOL

by Anonymousreply 55May 3, 2017 10:30 PM

He sure was a great looking guy though.

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by Anonymousreply 56May 3, 2017 10:46 PM

r51

Yup thats him. What a supportive side piece he was.

by Anonymousreply 57May 3, 2017 11:28 PM

He was. Wish he had someone to tell him to keep his money and live happily ever after. He should have just stuck with Ryan, who looked like a great influence, I think. I hope so at least.

by Anonymousreply 58May 3, 2017 11:35 PM

I wish Aaron had've let his hair grow out when he was in prison. He never deviated from that low cut/shaped up haircut during the entire time he was in the public eye. I bet he would've had a cute little curly thing going on. Even his brother has that exact same haircut.

by Anonymousreply 59May 4, 2017 12:03 AM

Aaron was the bottom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 60May 4, 2017 12:12 AM

For real? he's a bottom? no way!

by Anonymousreply 61May 4, 2017 12:16 AM

r60 Hopeful thinking or is this a report?

by Anonymousreply 62May 4, 2017 12:16 AM

Any postmortem inspection on his sphincter? We need to know if he was a bottom.

by Anonymousreply 63May 4, 2017 12:36 AM

They would inspected that when he went into prison. Someone had to bend Aaron over and stick their fingers up his hole.

by Anonymousreply 64May 4, 2017 12:38 AM

Just ask Ryan and Kyle.

by Anonymousreply 65May 4, 2017 12:39 AM

Rabbit's phone call to WEEI, before he was told by other inmates that AH was gay. He appears to confirm hand jobs right after 5:00.

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by Anonymousreply 66May 4, 2017 12:47 AM

His friend handed the phone to aaron in jail? mmm, kkkk it's not bye bye birdie in prison

by Anonymousreply 67May 4, 2017 12:57 AM

Why did Aaron have Ryan saved in his phone as "Con"? Is that some kind of slang for side-piece?

by Anonymousreply 68May 4, 2017 1:12 AM

Aaron actually had a rather soft speaking voice. Definitely not as deep and imposing as one would think.

by Anonymousreply 69May 4, 2017 1:14 AM

Could just be short for Connecticut.

by Anonymousreply 70May 4, 2017 1:14 AM

r69 Here's a video where his gayvoice kind creeps out.

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by Anonymousreply 71May 4, 2017 1:16 AM

They probably have their own secret language. Code words etc.

by Anonymousreply 72May 4, 2017 1:16 AM

Was he gay with Tebow?

by Anonymousreply 73May 4, 2017 1:37 AM

R73, we will never know. Tebow will never tell.

by Anonymousreply 74May 4, 2017 1:40 AM

I think AH, not being blind and deaf, must have thought Tebow was closeted. I doubt Tebow was AH type though, going by Kyle or Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 75May 4, 2017 1:43 AM

No thug in prison would kill himself if someone found out he was having sex with men. Its expected. Being the bottom with his reputation would be enough for him to suicide

by Anonymousreply 76May 4, 2017 1:51 AM

r76 What if he had aids.

by Anonymousreply 77May 4, 2017 1:56 AM

That would be leaked from the autopsy. TMZ pays good money for that kind of dirt

by Anonymousreply 78May 4, 2017 2:01 AM

I still don't think his suicide had anything to do with the gay rumors. He just didn't want rot in a cell for the next 50 years. It was his last "Fuck You" to the world. And there's good signs he planned it for weeks.

by Anonymousreply 79May 4, 2017 2:12 AM

I agree r79. I think getting off for double murder and *still* having to stay in prison for the rest of his days was too much for him to handle.

by Anonymousreply 80May 4, 2017 2:32 AM

I'm just pissed that such an incredibly good looking man with a bright future and a cutie for a DL boyfriend (one he got to see regularly cause "personal assistant" ) would just throw it all away like that!!

Seeing Ryan in the courtroom must have hurt like a motherfucker. Kyle is no Ryan.

I'd have killed myself a long time ago had I been in his situation. Prison gave him a lot of time to just sit there and reflect on how much he threw his life away. I bet every article he read about himself didn't fail to mention it.

by Anonymousreply 81May 4, 2017 2:44 AM

Yea. Aaron had it all, he was a great player on a great team. Just signed a big money contract. He had the public persona of being straight with his best female friend as his fiance, a little kid.

A nice piece of ass who doubled as his personal assistant for when he wanted to feel the insides of a man.

He had EVERYTHING and threw it away because he convinced himself he was some kind of thug even though he grew up as a middle class athlete with the world at his feet.

Dumb Dumb Dumb.

by Anonymousreply 82May 4, 2017 2:50 AM

Ryan is so cute @ r51. It must be so hard for him to go on. But I guess the money makes it easier. Marry the fiancee, have babies and live the straight life like so many other bisexuals do.

by Anonymousreply 83May 4, 2017 2:59 AM

r83 Maybe Ryan is straight and Hernandez just had a golden dick which is how he also converted Kyle. I wish those fucking guards would release Kyle already so he can tell us

by Anonymousreply 84May 4, 2017 3:04 AM

r82, he didn't have everything. He didn't feel he had freedom to be who he was or love who he wanted.

by Anonymousreply 85May 4, 2017 3:04 AM

Ryan is cute, I can see why AH was attracted. At least AH loved and was loved in his life, not many people can say this. RIP Aaron.

by Anonymousreply 86May 4, 2017 5:18 AM

"His fiance, Shayanna Jenkins, and his high school friend, Ryan McDonnell, appeared on a jailhouse visit list." Weird how the article mentions Ryan. Were they the only two he allowed to visit him? Hmm...

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by Anonymousreply 87May 4, 2017 6:14 AM

Really interesting if you consider the fact that he also called Ryan an awful lot in jail, even more than his fiancée.

by Anonymousreply 88May 4, 2017 6:19 AM

[quote]Seeing Ryan in the courtroom must have hurt like a motherfucker.

Mare-E.

by Anonymousreply 89May 4, 2017 6:31 AM

He'll always have Costa Rica. I bet it was a non-stop fuck and suck fest.

by Anonymousreply 90May 4, 2017 9:25 AM

Damn, people. Why are you so determined to romanticize this story? This guy was a murderer. He allegedly killed 5 people, judging by his gang tats. But even one is enough.

by Anonymousreply 91May 4, 2017 1:46 PM

R91. He was cleared of the double murder and charged with one. How the fuck does that add up to 5? Not excusing what he did, but why are you shit up?

by Anonymousreply 92May 4, 2017 1:59 PM

[quote]He was cleared of the double murder

The jury totally thought he was guilty, they just didn't think burden of proof had been met.

by Anonymousreply 93May 4, 2017 2:01 PM

R93 you haven't answered the question. How does that add up to 5?

by Anonymousreply 94May 4, 2017 2:05 PM

Party Glasspool could totally play Ryan in the movie adaptation.

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by Anonymousreply 95May 4, 2017 2:15 PM

Let's be honest, he was arrogant, paranoid, angry stupid asshole. I don't understand why some people feel sorry for him just because he fucked guys.

by Anonymousreply 96May 4, 2017 2:16 PM

Major resemblance

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by Anonymousreply 97May 4, 2017 2:22 PM

[quote]How does that add up to 5?

I think perhaps the poster believed that the shooting in Gainesville resulted in deaths, but it actually didn't.

by Anonymousreply 98May 4, 2017 2:23 PM

R98

Nah, I know he didn't kill those guys. I was referring to the analyzes of his tattoos and their significance in the world of street gangs. He had tats for five murders. But maybe he was bragging.

by Anonymousreply 99May 4, 2017 2:56 PM

R99 the "five murders" tat is actually a gun chamber representing the number of bullets used in the double murder shooting.

Which everyone knows he did, no matter what the jury came back with. Baes is a sleazeball expert at finding the loopholes that allow criminals like AH and Casey Anthony to gain acquittal

by Anonymousreply 100May 4, 2017 3:12 PM

R100

So yeah, he definitely killed at least three guys. For no reasons whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 101May 4, 2017 3:19 PM

R101, that's still a question. Odin Lloyd's murder wasn't committed on impulse: it was premeditated. Something happened and AH stewed over it for several days before luring Odin out and killing him. He HAD a motive, but it's not clear what that motive was. It was never established in court.

by Anonymousreply 102May 4, 2017 6:48 PM

And a motive was never established for the Odin trial.

by Anonymousreply 103May 4, 2017 7:18 PM

One other rumor around these parts is that AH was involved in low-level drug dealing, which may​ have also been a factor in the Lloyd killing. Originally it didn't seem to make sense--why would AH involve himself in such an endeavor when he didn't need the $ and had too much​ to lose. Before the AH defenders jump all over this, trust that this was talked about long before the Lloyd murder by people who knew him.

And why the fuck would anyone defend this asshole anyway?

by Anonymousreply 104May 4, 2017 7:49 PM

He had a safe house where people would party and do whatever; supposedly on the recommendation of someone who worked for the Patriots. This came out in the Lloyd trial. All his shady companions were involved to some degree in dealing; and his athlete social crew included Patriots-gone-wrong that the team wisely got rid of.

by Anonymousreply 105May 4, 2017 7:55 PM

I heard the same thing very early on, r104; that his first stop upon going to the Patriots was Central Falls and that they had to talk to him about bringing undesirables around.

Kind of amusing considering they signed him knowing that he had a history.

by Anonymousreply 106May 4, 2017 8:09 PM

[quote] [R76] What if he had aids

You mean "the" AIDS

Like "I heard he liked to have the sex where the man go up inside the other man and he caught the AIDS"

by Anonymousreply 107May 4, 2017 9:03 PM

OP- such a smartass ! Here, you come sit next to me !!

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by Anonymousreply 108May 4, 2017 9:18 PM

New TMZ report. Nothing new about what we care about just how he killed himself and the confirmation of things we already knew. It really seems like mainstream media is like a week behind this story.

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by Anonymousreply 109May 4, 2017 9:53 PM

I have come to believe that the friendship between Lloyd and AH had absolutely gone south days before the murder.

That whole press narrative of "Aaron just up and murked his best friend for no good reason because he was high on sherm" just doesn't ring true to me. Now I'm not saying that Lloyd had it coming, but I think that Lloyd wasn't as shocked when he was told to get out of the car as we were lead to believe. I suppose the fact that he texted his sister "NFL" bears this out. He knew it was coming.

And even if Lloyd had dogged him in a homophobic way, it still wasn't deserving of the death penalty(for Lloyd) but it probably didn't help things between them. Can you imagine being a Joe Nobody, and due to dumb luck(dating Shay's sister) you get to roll with a multi-millionaire big dawg in the hottest clubs in Boston, and then you have the nerve to refer to him as limp-wristed or similar? Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 110May 4, 2017 10:33 PM

But if that was the motive why didn't the gay angle come out in the trial?

by Anonymousreply 111May 4, 2017 10:54 PM

R111 generally the courts care about whether someone committed the crime and not why.

In AH's case there was overwhelming evidence that he killed Odin, so motive did not matter in helping the prosecution prove that he did it.

Also sexuality is a sensitive subject so why go there if you don't need to?

by Anonymousreply 112May 4, 2017 11:46 PM

R112 is correct. That is why the prosecution is not required to show motive. Although, all the legal experts on the news channels will always say that juries WANT to know the motive.

Hence, Baez the lying snake stating that George Anthony had sexually abused Casey throughout her youth in his opening statement(and then never mentioning it again.)

by Anonymousreply 113May 5, 2017 12:40 AM

AH made 6 phone calls the night he hung himself, including one an hour before he died. None indicated he was going to commit suicide. I wonder if Ryan was one of those phone calls.

Man can James Patterson hurry up with this book already. I want every single detail.

by Anonymousreply 114May 5, 2017 1:55 AM

Here is the official police report.

Am I reading it right that one of Aaron's emergency contacts wasn't his fiance? The names are redacted but it says "Friend" and "Mother" Surely they wouldn't refer to Shayanna as "friend" right?

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by Anonymousreply 115May 5, 2017 2:02 AM

So he was disciplined for having another inmate locked in his cell with him?

Reading the good book together, no doubt

by Anonymousreply 116May 5, 2017 2:06 AM

where did you find that info @r116?

by Anonymousreply 117May 5, 2017 2:07 AM

So he died naked shitting himself with vomit coming out of his nose on a floor soaked with shampoo. Thats a great opening scene to the movie

*Record scratch* *Freeze Frame* "Yup that's me, I bet you're wondering how I ended up here"

*Scene rewinds "Well it all started here..." *Cut to scene of Ryan aggressively riding Aaron in a Costa Rica Hotel Room while Consuela knocks on the door yelling "Housekeeping!"

by Anonymousreply 118May 5, 2017 2:11 AM

r117 I think he's referring to Page 50 of the Police Report? Wonder if it was Kyle and thats why he got isolated, not sure if the timing makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 119May 5, 2017 2:13 AM

Anyway, do you really think he was a nice boyfriend or partner? I doubt it. In my experience, if person is angry, paranoid, evil, he is angry, paranoid, evil with all people in his life. This guy was a poison. Surrounded himself with thrash, low criminals. It goes beyond being secretly gay. For god sake, we know closeted gay sportsmen, and none of them are this disfunctional.

by Anonymousreply 120May 5, 2017 2:14 AM

R117 they just did a summary of the report and mentioned his disciplinary issues, one of which was securing an inmate in his cell. Reading the report it looked like it was 2 hrs on April 17, two days before his death

by Anonymousreply 121May 5, 2017 2:16 AM

The summary was on our local news

by Anonymousreply 122May 5, 2017 2:17 AM

[quote][R111] generally the courts care about whether someone committed the crime and not why.

That's what makes this case so interesting.

They weren't concerned about his motive in the murder trial, but I imagine it will be of great importance in a trial against the prison. Especially since is it known that AH had contact with Kyle, before Kyle was even locked up. And who knows who else is tangled in the web. His relationships will have to be put under a microscope.

by Anonymousreply 123May 5, 2017 2:22 AM

R120 Well, he wasn't a closet gay, he was bisexual. Aggressive, insecure behavior is a common trait among bi-men.

Ya I know some of you will get mad that I said it but you can't deny the pattern. Every time I see dysfunction like this in a same-sex couple one of them is bisexual. The only time I see gay men behave this way is when they try to pass for straight and are obsessed with their masculine image.

by Anonymousreply 124May 5, 2017 2:25 AM

Actually, R120, I think he was. I think he can see him being very good to Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 125May 5, 2017 2:26 AM

I think he was gay. Yes, he has a child, but I think he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 126May 5, 2017 2:27 AM

Police report has a summary of interviews with fellow inmates. One of them mentions that he had heard the radio broadcast abour Hernandez being gay.

by Anonymousreply 127May 5, 2017 2:32 AM

the link r115 reveals, SOME SONGS ON HIS IPOD!!!!

Rihanna - Selfish Girl

Rihanna - Unfaithful

False Alarm - The Weeknd

Nobody - PARTYNEXTDOOR

Earned It - The Weeknd

Temptations - PARTYNEXTDOOR

Transparency - PARTYNEXTDOOR

Problems and Selfless - PARTYNEXTDOOR

U With Me? - Drake

With You - Drake

by Anonymousreply 128May 5, 2017 2:39 AM

NBC Boston apparently going to do a story on this tonight?

"This was 6p tonight--bigger story 11pm on Aaron Hernandez death "

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by Anonymousreply 129May 5, 2017 2:39 AM

R120 you're on to something. AH was most obviously hetero; I mentioned here or in another thread about a young lady I know he pursued for sex. Plus, first hand accounts of his behavior in the clubs he and his crew went to was of a star athlete/gangsta type. One of the Patriots, Matt Light, made allusions to the people AH hung around with being bad news.

The last thing anyone expected was gay or bisexual Aaron, I can assure you of that. He was hiding a big secret

by Anonymousreply 130May 5, 2017 2:40 AM

R125

It's very naive. And dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 131May 5, 2017 2:43 AM

Netflix needs to make a documentary on this.

by Anonymousreply 132May 5, 2017 2:46 AM

My comment was meant for r124

by Anonymousreply 133May 5, 2017 2:50 AM

If Netflix took the story they would make us feel sorry for Aaron. Toss his murders up to the outcry of a misunderstood soul.

by Anonymousreply 134May 5, 2017 2:50 AM

I am of the belief that Ryan never got to see his psycho side. Otherwise why would he agree to spend a whole week in a foreign country alone with him?

Unless the danger was part of the appeal.

by Anonymousreply 135May 5, 2017 2:53 AM

Maybe the incident with a fellow prisoner in his cell on 17th is the investigation the source at @r50 was talking about?

by Anonymousreply 136May 5, 2017 2:57 AM

Baes is criticizing the report, calling the investigation​ "unprofessional" and condemning all the leaks.

And AH believed in reincarnation. What a goon

by Anonymousreply 137May 5, 2017 3:06 AM

R119, that would account for Kyle having already been removed from the unit prior to the suicide, as alleged by Army.

by Anonymousreply 138May 5, 2017 3:09 AM

That's right @r138, when Kyle first heard about the suicide he had just come out of solitary for "breaking jailhouse rules" according to Army.

by Anonymousreply 139May 5, 2017 3:13 AM

Then there was another from October...

[quote]“I did open cell 55 (Hernandez’s cell at the time) which is a single cell. After the unit was secured I did open cell 55 and inmate (redacted) housed in cell 15 walked out and back to his cell,”

by Anonymousreply 140May 5, 2017 3:13 AM

So Kyle and Aaron just couldn't stay out of each others cell. Finally the prison guards had enough and sent Kyle away from the Unit and Aaron kills himself.

Sounds like a lawsuit

by Anonymousreply 141May 5, 2017 3:16 AM

"Hernandez’s discipline file shows he was written up for acting as a look out for a prison fight, and himself getting in another fight with an inmate that had to be broken up with a chemical spray, presumably like pepper spray."

Kraft must be shitting himself for ever letting this guy so close to golden boy Brady.

by Anonymousreply 142May 5, 2017 3:19 AM

R135 Abusive relationships are not always abusive all the time. People stay in them because they believe things will get better.

"Let's take a vacation. Just you and me, away from everything. We can take our minds off things for awhile."

Also keep in mind that people who seek to manipulate you will find a way of isolating you from friends and family.

It's like Datalounge. You have your enjoyable moments when everything is fine, then something goes wrong and you're reminded of everything you hate about it. But in the end you come back hoping the laughter will return.

by Anonymousreply 143May 5, 2017 3:20 AM

r142 Where is that from?

by Anonymousreply 144May 5, 2017 3:21 AM

Wow, excellent R115. Thank you for posting!

by Anonymousreply 145May 5, 2017 3:22 AM

I dont think Ryan and Aaron were in an abusive relationship. Think about it, once Aaron was locked up wouldn't Ryan have finally "escaped" since Aaron was locked away for life. He could have never seen or heard from Aaron again, instead he was one of Aaron's frequent phone calls even after his murder conviction.

by Anonymousreply 146May 5, 2017 3:23 AM

@r144 here it is:

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by Anonymousreply 147May 5, 2017 3:23 AM

Sad that the prison bitch is on suicide watch......it would be kind of poetic if he killed himself, like Romeo and Juliet

by Anonymousreply 148May 5, 2017 3:35 AM

I'd love to know what was redacted at the bottom of page 125, from the inmates who were interviewed about AH's mental state leading up to the suicide.

by Anonymousreply 149May 5, 2017 3:36 AM

Okay, it was my bad to assume the relationship was abusive. I just don't think it was all happy-go-lucky because they had to stay secret. I imagine that there was many melancholy moments.

by Anonymousreply 150May 5, 2017 3:39 AM

Nicknames:

Boom

Roxx Boy

Double A

AA

Big Nose

Chico

A-Money

Can't Get Right

by Anonymousreply 151May 5, 2017 3:43 AM

from CNN:

He had obscured officers' view of his cell before. The prison disciplinary records detail an incident shortly after Hernandez was convicted of murdering Lloyd.

On May 17, 2015, a guard visited Hernandez's cell to check for marks and bruising following an alleged altercation. "I ask for the cell door to open, but the inmate had the door blocked, making it difficult to open at first," according to a report of the offense.

He was accused of tampering with a locking device, and was disciplined with loss of 60 units from his canteen.

Two months later, a guard doing a cell check found a curtain hanging from the top bunk of Hernandez's cell. A curtain was also hung across the doorway, obstructing the view into the cell, records show.

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by Anonymousreply 152May 5, 2017 3:49 AM

It includes the final disciplinary report in October when another inmate told guards Hernandez and an inmate were locked in his cell together.

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by Anonymousreply 153May 5, 2017 4:01 AM

I'm sure there's an innocent explanation for another guy being in his cell. Maybe they were reading or doing a Bible study together

by Anonymousreply 154May 5, 2017 4:06 AM

Did anyone else wonder who Aaron's tattoo, "Remind me That we'll always have each other" was dedicated to?

Fun fact: he liked Rhianna, Drake, The Weeknd and Party Next Door. Interesting none are American acts.

by Anonymousreply 155May 5, 2017 4:20 AM

Sorry guys. I typed his music preferences above before I read all the posts and saw that had already been covered.

And my two cents as to Aaron's relationship with Ryan: I have now seen so may videos of AH coming across as quite mild mannered. He doesn't have that wi88a affect which is so common among white guys who want to come across as hard. And I keep remembering the account of a friend of the family who said that until his dad's untimely death, Aaron was known as a sweet goof. All the toughness came after dad's passing, likely a defense mechanism. So, I believe that Ryan was the one person with whom Aaron could still be the sweet goof of old. I think that is probably much closer to the truth than Ryan being a victim of domestic antagonism or violence. Aaron saved that for the outsiders.

by Anonymousreply 156May 5, 2017 4:35 AM

[quote]Did anyone else wonder who Aaron's tattoo, "Remind me That we'll always have each other" was dedicated to?

He got that tattoo with Shayanna. Hers says "....when everything else is gone.”

Dig by Incubus

If I turn into another

Dig me up from under what is covering

The better part of me

Sing this song

Remind me that we'll always have each other

When everything else is gone

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by Anonymousreply 157May 5, 2017 5:31 AM

Yo so clean-cut Ryan stuck by him when he shot dudes in 2007, killed two dudes in 2012, and killed one more dude in 2013?

He must have loved him unconditionally, cause more than likely there were people in his ear telling him to back away from Aaron.

by Anonymousreply 158May 5, 2017 5:43 AM

Rabbit is tweeting again...

[quote]So I just spoke to Ernest Wallace he's pissed said no tape exists of him saying what she claims he said also said stop calling his mom 24/7

[quote]All I know is McPhee has been wrong about everything Wallace said if she has a tape why not play it? B/c she's lying he NEVER SAID any of it

[quote]he never made said about Aaron being bi or gay he's not happy he said she's full of it and knows she won't get the tape cuz it's not real

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by Anonymousreply 159May 5, 2017 6:10 AM

Datalounge is the only place that I still see talking about that fucker. Move on guys. He was a horrible individual and his corpse is rotting.

by Anonymousreply 160May 5, 2017 6:20 AM

[quote]Move on guys. He was a horrible individual and his corpse is rotting.

Gurl, you are the one who clicked on this thread to read it, so you move on!

Ryan was definitely an enigma in Aaron's life...I get that they grew up together, but damn. They were polar opposites as adults. I cannot imagine Aaron having a party with his hood ass gangstas, and then pretty white boy Ryan shows up with nothing in common with them. Unless he was the power bottom to run trains on, like they do in gay porn.

That's the thing that leads me to believe they had an intimate relationship...people who are that different usually only link up if they have sexual relationship.

by Anonymousreply 161May 5, 2017 6:37 AM

R159 Please stop giving updates on this individual. I fail to see what McPhee gains from lying about AH's sexuality other than a libel suit.

Not her biggest fan , but she's an investigative journalist who had followed this case since 2012.

If anything this rabbit guy and his fellow goons hate the idea that a fellow thug is being called gay.

by Anonymousreply 162May 5, 2017 7:17 AM

Im guessing that tape is in an evidence box somewhere:

[quote] Ernest Wallace, a co-defendant in the Lloyd murder case, told detectives the victim had called Hernandez a “schmoocher,” which was taken by Hernandez and his companions as a gay slur. Wallace was also recorded saying during a jailhouse visit with Tanya Singleton, Hernandez’s cousin, that he would not have helped Hernandez get rid of the murder weapon—a crime for which he is now serving a 4½-to-7 year sentence on accessory to murder charges—if he had known Hernandez was a “limp wrist,” multiple sources say.

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by Anonymousreply 163May 5, 2017 12:23 PM

[quote]He doesn't have that wi88a affect which is so common among white guys who want to come across as hard.

Aaron was not white.

by Anonymousreply 164May 5, 2017 12:45 PM

He and his brother both rock(ed) the same haircut that gay porn star Francois Sagat rocks (though Francois's is a tattoo)

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by Anonymousreply 165May 5, 2017 12:48 PM

r164 He was half white. His mother was Italian (Terri Valentine).

by Anonymousreply 166May 5, 2017 12:56 PM

Aarons mother was Italian and Irish.

by Anonymousreply 167May 5, 2017 1:15 PM

The early signs that there was a lot of inner turmoil:

[quote] There were signs in one NFL scouting report before Hernandez was even drafted: "Self-esteem is quite low; not well-adjusted emotionally, not happy, moods unpredictable, not stable, doesn't take much to set him off, but not an especially jumpy guy," the scout wrote in his report.

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by Anonymousreply 168May 5, 2017 1:59 PM

More details about his fights and attitude in prison.

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by Anonymousreply 169May 5, 2017 2:02 PM

[quote] A third scout recalled that Hernandez was considered the toughest kid on the Gators’ roster and “no one will mess with him.”

[quote] Despite those question marks, New England made Hernandez the 113th pick in the draft, getting what many considered to be a player with first-round talent for a fourth-round price tag.

[quote] It didn’t take long for Hernandez’s quick temper to be revealed at Gillette Stadium. According to an NFL source, within days of being drafted, Hernandez was at the team facility trying to watch film.

[quote] When he couldn’t figure out how to use the equipment, he asked how it worked, but got no answer. When Wes Welker walked by the room, Hernandez asked for his help, but Welker said, “Rookie, you figure it out.”

[quote] Hernandez responded with expletives.

[quote] Hernandez spends little, if any, time with his Patriots teammates off the field, opting to spend his time with those same friends who used to visit him in Gainesville and have known him for years.

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by Anonymousreply 170May 5, 2017 2:09 PM

His mother may be white, but for all intents and purposes, Aaron Hernandez was a Latino man, the same way that Barack Obama (half black half white) is considered black.

by Anonymousreply 171May 5, 2017 3:05 PM

Hispanic people are usually referred to as white hispanic or just white in police reports, and Latino or Hispanic (with no mention of white anywhere) if it's say, a fluff piece on the joy of Cali becoming minority white and majority Hispanic. It's the PC rules about race that is oh so predictable, and reading through the docs released from prison on AH (convicted of murder 1st degree) I saw his race written down as white on several of the papers. No surprise there.

by Anonymousreply 172May 5, 2017 3:47 PM

And just to point out, I'm no racist or hater of Latino/Hispanic people, I just wished the media would be consistent in decide if Latinos/ Hispanics are their own distinct group or not, and not just based on whatever narrative they want to push.

by Anonymousreply 173May 5, 2017 3:53 PM

Most forms to be filled out will read: Caucasian/African American/Hispanic/Asian/other

by Anonymousreply 174May 5, 2017 4:20 PM

Aaron was a fucking horrible human being. That report has some awful stuff. He was a grade A thug and likely would have killed someone else inside the jail if the police didn't find his shank.

That's another horrific thought to think he had this power over so many people to control them. All people like Odin Lloyd that could have said just one thing and he would have just killed that person.

What a psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 175May 5, 2017 6:27 PM

His death note to his fiancee was released partly.

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by Anonymousreply 176May 5, 2017 7:56 PM

Shay, You have always been my soul-mate and I want you to live life and know I’m always with you,” Hernandez wrote in the letter shared by NBC Boston. ds/AP) BY Andy Clayton NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Friday, May 5, 2017, 3:33 PM

Disgraced NFL star Aaron Hernandez’s suicide letter that he penned to his fiancee Shayanna Jenkins-Hernandez was released Friday by prosecutors.

“Shay, You have always been my soul-mate and I want you to live life and know I’m always with you,” Hernandez wrote in the letter shared by NBC Boston.

Hernandez, 27, the former Patriots star tight end who was serving a life sentence for the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd, hanged himself with a bedsheet tied to his cell window at the Souza Barnowski Correctional Center in Shirley, Mass., on Wednesday, April 19.

“I told you what was coming indirectly! I love you so much and know you are an angel ... Tell my story fully but never think anything besides how much I love you.

ds/AP) BY Andy Clayton NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Friday, May 5, 2017, 3:33 PM

Disgraced NFL star Aaron Hernandez’s suicide letter that he penned to his fiancee Shayanna Jenkins-Hernandez was released Friday by prosecutors.

“Shay, You have always been my soul-mate and I want you to live life and know I’m always with you,” Hernandez wrote in the letter shared by NBC Boston.

Hernandez, 27, the former Patriots star tight end who was serving a life sentence for the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd, hanged himself with a bedsheet tied to his cell window at the Souza Barnowski Correctional Center in Shirley, Mass., on Wednesday, April 19.

“I told you what was coming indirectly! I love you so much and know you are an angel ... Tell my story fully but never think anything besides how much I love you.

“This was the Supreme's, the Almighty's plan, not mine! I love you!

Hernandez asked his fiancee to look after two people who had their named redacted from the letter released by the prosecutors - “those are my boys.”

He then added in all caps: "YOURE RICH."

by Anonymousreply 177May 5, 2017 7:58 PM

sorry i messed up coying and pasting the story, i wasn't wearing my glasses!

AH referenced pop band savage garden in his note to shay!!! " I knew I loved you = savage garden "

by Anonymousreply 178May 5, 2017 8:00 PM

yes, AH wasn't a good inmate.

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by Anonymousreply 179May 5, 2017 8:01 PM

damn, he said Shay is rich, but that high school guy is even richer, his bank account received a bigger deposit. bet he loved him even more.

i teared up reading that not. yes...Mary!

by Anonymousreply 180May 5, 2017 8:02 PM

He loved her for sure. I think if anything he was bisexual, not gay. I wonder if it's possible to love two people and if he loved both Shay and the high school guy? Btw, if they released his letter to Shay why can't they release the alleged letter he wrote to Kyle?

by Anonymousreply 181May 5, 2017 8:08 PM

If Kyle and his lawyer gets a copy of the note that supposedly was for Kyle, are they allowed to release it to the public?

by Anonymousreply 182May 5, 2017 8:10 PM

R182, well, it's kyle's letter, he can share it if he wants.I think he's probably gonna milk it for big bucks along with interview etc.

by Anonymousreply 183May 5, 2017 8:14 PM

I hope shay gives an interview, AH gave her permission in the letter. he said to tell my story "fully".

I agree with the above poster who said Ryan probably never saw his dark, violent side. Ryan was probably a good influence in his life.

by Anonymousreply 184May 5, 2017 8:17 PM

Tmz seems to think the Patriots will now pay his estate the rest of the money in his contract.

[quote] As a result of dying innocent, the New England Patriots cannot justify firing him and denying him the remainder of his salary ($6 mil) so the team may have to pay that money to Aaron's estate and it appears Shay is the beneficiary ... and Aaron knew it.

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by Anonymousreply 185May 5, 2017 8:18 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 186May 5, 2017 8:27 PM

Didn't OJ's victims sue for wrongful death even though OJ was aquited?

by Anonymousreply 187May 5, 2017 8:29 PM

I don't think Kyle is going to open up for money. We may be underestimating the power of a closeted mind.

And if Shayanna doesn't share why Ryan got more money then her, I'm will have to call so much bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 188May 5, 2017 8:33 PM

Kyle will open up but he won't offer anything that we don't already.

I wonder who aaron wanted shay to take care of. their names were blacked out. I wonder if it's ryan and that other guy he went to high school with, the other guy we thought could be his hs bf? he said "these are my boys"

by Anonymousreply 189May 5, 2017 8:40 PM

The baby momma lied throughout both trials; what makes anyone think anything she says about AH will have any truth associated with it?

by Anonymousreply 190May 5, 2017 9:08 PM

She turned a blind eye on all his flings and fucking the groupies? she deserves the money for having to put up with all that.

He planned for it to happen, he said it in the note. Ryan knew as well. fucking tragic. There will be a movie at least.

by Anonymousreply 191May 5, 2017 9:46 PM

wow, I can't believe Aaron had low self esteem, according to the scout!

by Anonymousreply 192May 5, 2017 9:47 PM

Ryan in the center

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by Anonymousreply 193May 5, 2017 10:02 PM

R164 According to the state of Massachusetts per his death certificate Aaron was WHITE.

So, take your beef to them.

by Anonymousreply 194May 5, 2017 10:05 PM

Who gives a shit about Aaron H.? He's a fucking MURDERER! He was insane! Do you really want to add homo/bi to the mix? Who really cares about who a dead murderer fucked around with? He was a disgusting human being. The heteros can have him.

by Anonymousreply 195May 5, 2017 10:24 PM

R195 Thank you. Point taken.

Now please get the fuck off this thread and stay off.

by Anonymousreply 196May 5, 2017 10:26 PM

R195 Not sure if same dude who keeps saying the same shit over and over, but you need to GTFO of this thread.

by Anonymousreply 197May 5, 2017 10:27 PM

Y'all are trash, people. Pure trash. Anyone who find such lowlife scum to be interesting in any way, shape, or form is equally repellant. You probably think the Kardashians are the American Royal Family, too. God, what a bunch of losers you all are.

by Anonymousreply 198May 5, 2017 10:40 PM

Amazing picture R193, thank you.

Sad to me coz he was so young and he obviously planned to die so his little girl could get the money from the contract. He probably hated living in prison anyways...

He had so much potential. not fulfilled, sad. From scouting reports, he was not "well adjusted" emotionally. maybe he was confused about his sexuality as well? I think he was very immature probably in every way. I now think he's bi. I though he was gay and bearded for NFL and sponsors.

I wonder if the pats assigned a minder to Aaron? Maybe it depends on teams, my friend told me he knew a minder to a player on another nfl team.

by Anonymousreply 199May 5, 2017 10:44 PM

Regarding that shank or weapon they found him with, I think it was for self defense. He's a big name and probably a huge target on his back.

by Anonymousreply 200May 5, 2017 10:46 PM

Ryan and his fiancee. Ryan shows up around 0:28

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by Anonymousreply 201May 5, 2017 10:49 PM

R199 one of the coaches on the Pats' staff lived next door or across the street. And many here wondered if that's why Tebow was brought in, albeit for a short time

by Anonymousreply 202May 5, 2017 10:51 PM

Some gay men can overlook every single bad quality of a man if he looks like he fucks like a master. I'm not sure I understand that particular fetish. I prefer my men to have other redeeming qualities also. Even if I can somehow ignore his obvious personality flaws, I really don't think Aaron was attractive. So, why the fascination with the possibility that he might dabble in the homosex?

by Anonymousreply 203May 5, 2017 10:54 PM

Some gay men, however do not want him to be gay because it ruins their fantasy - you know how gay men feel about straight men - they worship them. That's who I think these "he's not gay" or "who cares" people are.

by Anonymousreply 204May 5, 2017 10:58 PM

Aaron clearly loved his fiancé. Get over it. He wasn't gay. Why on earth some people would wish him to be one of us.... it just baffles me.

by Anonymousreply 205May 5, 2017 11:07 PM

^^ 😂😂

by Anonymousreply 206May 5, 2017 11:09 PM

R205 If anything he loved her loyalty. That woman lied like a motherfucker and turned her back on her own SISTER just for him.

by Anonymousreply 207May 5, 2017 11:14 PM

R205's perplex me. They must come on a gay gossip website for the sole reason of getting angry. They must get angry at every thread. I can imagine them swearing and slamming their keyboard and mouse in a rage: "He said he was gay!!? Well, I'll show him! I'll type that he's "trash" and he deeply loved his fiancé!" Slamming his keys with his sausage fingers. This site can't be good for their health. Maybe they lead sad lives where they have to troll on a gay gossip site?

by Anonymousreply 208May 5, 2017 11:40 PM

The closet kills. Yet gay Rights are no longer an issue...

by Anonymousreply 209May 5, 2017 11:47 PM

Wow, R208. Project much? I have not the slightest bit of anger regarding this topic. I couldn't care less about such losers. If anything, they amuse me. Born trash, given a great opportunity, completely blows it. Humanity is better off without such people. But why people on here try to make AH have some kind of romantic complexity that simply doesn't exist is really a stupid waste of time.

by Anonymousreply 210May 5, 2017 11:47 PM

It was weird reading about how he thought he was getting out of prison and playing in the NFL again, and then taking his own life days later. The guy has a long history of saying one thing and doing the opposite though.

by Anonymousreply 211May 5, 2017 11:48 PM

Well, he was probably pretending everything was OK, just saying shit, hoping they don't get suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 212May 5, 2017 11:50 PM

R211 He's a master manipulator. He told Alexander Bradley that he loved him, then shot him in the face and left him for dead. He knows how to put on the charm when he needs to, as we've witnessed in many of his interviews.

The article below is worth a read.

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by Anonymousreply 213May 6, 2017 12:00 AM

He was 245 lbs but just 6'1" ????!!!!! That's massive. I would always be in fear of a man that large even if he said he loved me. He'd get mad and choke me out in a minute. I wouldn't stand a chance. No thanks.

by Anonymousreply 214May 6, 2017 12:32 AM

At the nfl combine back in 2010 he was listed as 6'2. I think that was his actual heigh. Some players heights gets marked down when they arrive at the combine, it always reveals who was adding an inch.

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by Anonymousreply 215May 6, 2017 12:39 AM

Welcome to Delusional Lounge, kids! Where the fantasies run WILD!

by Anonymousreply 216May 6, 2017 1:01 AM

Fuck off asshole. FF'd and blocked. ^^^^^

by Anonymousreply 217May 6, 2017 1:03 AM

The big mystery for me is what McPhee hinted at with those letters, that there were something in there like a confession of sorts that Michele called explosive. Now we have the letter to his fiancé revealed, with the wish she "tell his story fully". I don't know if that means publicly, or just to his daughter and family.

by Anonymousreply 218May 6, 2017 1:33 AM

mmmmm r201 Ryan has a nice little body!

by Anonymousreply 219May 6, 2017 1:47 AM

R118, Marry Me! lol That deserves it own thread!

by Anonymousreply 220May 6, 2017 1:53 AM

[quote]I really don't think Aaron was attractive. So, why the fascination with the possibility that he might dabble in the homosex?

You don't have to be attracted to him for this to be fascinating. There are so many different facets of the story to be fascinated with. Finding out what really caused Aaron, who was a nice, smart kid who made good grades to morph into an evil monster. I know his dad died, but his resentment had to be about more than that. The trial - his lawyers really did not want motive to be revealed. The huge question mark remains if it was about his sexuality. Ryan and Shayanna are also interesting characters. Where they just there to take advantage of him and get money? Maybe. And Kyle. How much did this guy know? So many questions....

by Anonymousreply 221May 6, 2017 2:07 AM

yes, I agree R221! and don't forget, aaron was an honor student in high school! Ryan was his best friend, even Shayanna said so on the stand.

He didn't grow up in the best environment...so gifted but wasn't meant to be.

by Anonymousreply 222May 6, 2017 2:38 AM

I think he was genuinely bisexual. He loved Shayanna and Ryan in different ways.

by Anonymousreply 223May 6, 2017 2:44 AM

It's perfectly logical that two high school friends such as Aaron and Ryan would remain friends after Aaron struck it big. Imagine them talking about it, dreaming about it, wishing for it… It must've been a dream come true for a local boy to make it so big

by Anonymousreply 224May 6, 2017 2:45 AM

nobody is perfect and he certainly wasn't. I admire he valued loyalty and didn't forget his friends from the old days. I dig that about him...I wonder what Ryan does now that he's no longer aaron's personal assistant?

by Anonymousreply 225May 6, 2017 2:53 AM

So what is this? A Huffy? You treat me so fine.

by Anonymousreply 226May 6, 2017 3:05 AM

Didn't forget his friends? He shot his friends!!! I agree this story is fascinating. But some of you sound like paperback romance book.

by Anonymousreply 227May 6, 2017 3:10 AM

r227 Ikr?! Like I too I'm fascinated with this story and its many facets, but let's not pretend that AH was an angel. The guy was on a killing spree before his final arrest.

by Anonymousreply 228May 6, 2017 3:17 AM

I feel confidant that none of us, even those of us who are romanticizing the tragic love story, have mistaken Aaron for an "angel." R228

His many foibles and flaws are part of why this tale is so engaging. If he were a Tom Brady sort, his story would be far less heart rending.

by Anonymousreply 229May 6, 2017 3:22 AM

r225, Ryan works in a warehouse

by Anonymousreply 230May 6, 2017 3:25 AM

[quote]I admire he valued loyalty and didn't forget his friends from the old days. I dig that about him..

Agree. That is a rarity among young people today.

by Anonymousreply 231May 6, 2017 3:54 AM

It's interesting to see the extent of the tattoo work he got while in prision. Very intricate and must have taken hours and hours. What do they use to apply the tattoo? Is the ink the kind that comes in a ballpoint pen? Is it even against the rules?

by Anonymousreply 232May 6, 2017 4:35 AM

It says in the report he was disciplined for getting tattoos.

by Anonymousreply 233May 6, 2017 4:38 AM

[quote]So, take your beef to them.

No, dear. I don't have to. Hernandez was LATINO.

by Anonymousreply 234May 6, 2017 5:10 AM

Well, that letter to Shay tells me all I need to know. She was truly the one he was in love with (the Savage Garden bit had me Mary-ing). Guess that puts a damper on some of your romanticized dreams of Aaron and Ryan sittin' in a tree, eh?

by Anonymousreply 235May 6, 2017 5:13 AM

He sounds like your typical bisexual. An official girlfriend and the secret dude on the side.

by Anonymousreply 236May 6, 2017 5:16 AM

r235 Very interesting that if she was his soulmate why was she not listed as an emergency contact? And who are the two boys he told her to look after. And aren't you curious about the "story" he wanted her to tell that somehow correlates with how much he loved her?

Lots of smoke there.

by Anonymousreply 237May 6, 2017 5:40 AM

R234 Okay he was a Caucasian Latino, who the state classified as white.

by Anonymousreply 238May 6, 2017 6:09 AM

Of course he loved Shay. They knew each other forever.

I also believe that Hugh Jackman loves his wife. I believe that Cole Porter truly adored his wife.

With all due respect, there are many people who love on many different levels.

by Anonymousreply 239May 6, 2017 6:11 AM

r235 You should read the text messages AH sent to Alexander Bradley. You'd think they were lovers...well, until he shot him in the head for being a witness to his double murder.

Point is, the dude throws 'I love yous' around like it's nobody's business. I'm not saying he didn't love her, I'm just saying we should put everything into perspective.

by Anonymousreply 240May 6, 2017 6:14 AM

A few texts AH sent to Bradley:

“jus kno at the end of the day I will always love u NO MATTER WAT HAPPENS,”

“I will always be there for u till the day u die but not in the state of mind ur in,” Hernandez wrote. “I don’t kno wat gotten into u after all the years we were inseparable but everything aside ur always on my mind and I love u and always will.”

“I MISS U AND LOVE YOU and still watch videos of us having fun every single day and can’t believe this and will keep saying I can’t believe all of this cuz I truly can’t believe all of this [expletive] is goin on!!”

“think if I would really try and kill u when we were that close!! I wouldn’t and never would wanna hurt u and u kno that. . . . U were all I had and I get tears every day and wake up to this [expletive] [expletive]!!! Love u good nite.”

by Anonymousreply 241May 6, 2017 7:12 AM

Sociopaths don't know anything about love. It's just a word to them. It seems likely this guy was a sociopath regardless of the bullshit his "friends" say about him.

by Anonymousreply 242May 6, 2017 7:20 AM

On Gronk at around the 22 sec mark: we are really close and we love each other

He throws around the word love quite easily. But by all accounts he was not particularly close to any of his team mates off the field, and later from prison said that of the pats, the one he was closest to was Brady. @r242 may be on to something.

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by Anonymousreply 243May 6, 2017 7:51 AM

How AH brother describes the different way they reacted to their fathers death, how Aaron put up a wall around himself:

[quote] Jonathan thinks back to the receiving line at the funeral. At 19, he was a hot mess; Aaron, 16, was a cold one. He was bawling; Aaron was not. Even in the moment, when he could have been lost in his own sadness, the older brother noticed. Another snowflake. “I saw a kid who was devastated,” he says. “I think he was confused. He was lost. He cried, but [only] at moments. Crying is not always the answer, but being an emotional family, for him to put up a wall during the services. . . it was shocking to me. He was holding everything in. Our bodies just reacted differently.”

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by Anonymousreply 244May 6, 2017 8:04 AM

Rabbit is tweeting claiming that McPhee is calling Ernest Wallace mother 24/7, maybe she is working on another story about this case.

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by Anonymousreply 245May 6, 2017 8:11 AM

Wow, the interview with the sheriff is a must watch, so chilling, the guy was definitely a manipulator and very possibly a sociopath.

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by Anonymousreply 246May 6, 2017 9:04 AM

R244 Wow. Thank you so much for posting the S.I. article. Everyone who is interested in this story absolutely needs to read it to better understand who Aaron was, and more importantly how he became who he was.

His brother Jonathan sounds like a genuinely terrific guy. And truthfully, Aaron sounds like a pretty damn terrific guy too.

Through the whole piece I kept thinking how much I wish he could have a do over.

And I really wish that he were alive. I don't think he was a sociopath. What he did was terrible, and he deserves severe punishment. But a sociopath does not crave acceptance and love like Aaron did. A sociopath doesn't live to please people.

His story is so complex and confusing, and we have barely scratched the surface here. I am rather stoic, and I don't usually feel a lot of joy or sadness(courtesy of pharma) but that article has really gotten to me. I want to hug DJ and tel him that he was a great brother, and I want to beg a pre-murder Aaron to break his ties with the old homeboys.

I'm in a terminal MARY! tailspin.

by Anonymousreply 247May 6, 2017 9:24 AM

Why is it a shock that he seemed happy before his suicide? Usually once a person decides to kill themselves, they become happier,calmer, and more relaxed, because they've found a solution to end the suffering.

by Anonymousreply 248May 6, 2017 9:26 AM

r247 it's becoming more and more obvious that he was a sociopath. Security cameras caught him dancing right after killing Odin Lloyd (a supposedly close friend). Not once did he show remorse during the trial.

Apparently sociopaths are capable of love but only to an extent.

The article below lists signs of sociopathy and Aaron checks all of them.

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by Anonymousreply 249May 6, 2017 9:38 AM

The video interview at @r246 is what convinced me he is a cold blooded sociopath. The sheriff said they had to handpick the guards that served AH unit/block, and the minute Aaron called any one of them by their first name they were to report back so they could be switched out for a new guard. That way AH was not able to manipulate his way into their good graces, something the sheriff said AH was a master at.

by Anonymousreply 250May 6, 2017 9:43 AM

Did she suspect his trip with Ryan was them cheating with women who were not their girlfriends? Or did she ever suspect they were lovers?

[quote] During testimony his recent double murder trial, she revealed, “I made a decision that if I was going to move back in with Aaron, I was going to have to kind of compromise on his behavior and that included infidelity and everything that came along with it,” she said of his cheating.

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by Anonymousreply 251May 6, 2017 10:25 AM

I wouldn't take anything written in the "Hollywood Life" articles with more than a grain of salt. In one piece they say that she was AH's high school sweetheart, and in the next one they say that they met at U of F.

by Anonymousreply 252May 6, 2017 10:57 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 253May 6, 2017 11:04 AM

That link won't open for me R253. I would really like to read the article.

by Anonymousreply 254May 6, 2017 11:41 AM

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by Anonymousreply 255May 6, 2017 11:43 AM

@r254 the link won't work for some reason, Just search "dailymail shayanna Jenkins sad life" and it should be the first result on google.

by Anonymousreply 256May 6, 2017 11:45 AM

AARON was a softie at heart. Very misunderstood. he had a lot of love to give, which he did to Ryan and Kyle.

by Anonymousreply 257May 6, 2017 11:48 AM

[quote] Jenkins, Hernandez's high school sweetheart and the mother of his 2-year-old daughter, spoke of how she began dating Hernandez in middle school. She described their relationship as "on again, off again," noting that Hernandez was a "star" and there were "a lot of girls trying to get his attention." She broke down and began to cry during questioning from Hernandez's lawyer as she talked about catching him cheating and about making a decision to work things out with him and to "compromise" on his behavior. "That included infidelity," she said. Asked by prosecutors if that included Hernandez having a sexual relationship with their babysitter, Jenkins replied, "I guess so... That's not something that I know happened.

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by Anonymousreply 258May 6, 2017 11:52 AM

Latino is not a race,and he looked Caucasian

by Anonymousreply 259May 6, 2017 2:53 PM

For R232, because I was interested in this as well: all kinds of material can be used for ink (see the link), and, yes, tattoos are against the rules. Apparently the improvised gizmos prisoners create for tattooing can be amazing. Sometimes they use motors from old CD players.

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by Anonymousreply 260May 6, 2017 4:46 PM

Look at R235. "I'm so glad he's straight! I mean, he's no f-g! He's hot! He's great at football! Don't ruin my fantasy!!"

"Gay for pay" porn is the number one viewed type of porn among gay men. That should tell YOU everything you need to know. Gay men NEED ATTRACTIVE men to be heterosexual no matter what kind of monster they are. These "he's straight" trolls are thinking in this fashion. If they say otherwise, they're lying.

by Anonymousreply 261May 6, 2017 4:51 PM

Lemme ask you something: Did any heterosexual man ever listen to Savage Garden?

by Anonymousreply 262May 6, 2017 4:57 PM

I'm flaming and I love that song.

by Anonymousreply 263May 6, 2017 4:59 PM

Not gonna lie,I would have loved to spend an hour locked together in his cell.

by Anonymousreply 264May 6, 2017 5:19 PM

With him naked and dead and the floor covered with soap?

by Anonymousreply 265May 6, 2017 5:39 PM

He'd be naked and alive but he'd still have a hard on.

by Anonymousreply 266May 6, 2017 5:47 PM

Hispanic - non-Hispanic is a determination of ethnicity per the Census Bureau. White, black, Asian, etc. are racial categories. That is why there is confusion. Colloquial usage of these terms is different from "official" use.

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by Anonymousreply 267May 6, 2017 5:50 PM

Now that we know Aaron wanted his "story" told. I wonder if Shayanna is going to write a book when she inevitably doesn't become "rich"

by Anonymousreply 268May 6, 2017 6:32 PM

That text msg to bradley...I don't know any straight guy who writes like that, I love you and I miss you all over the place...to another guy!

by Anonymousreply 269May 6, 2017 6:56 PM

Can someone give a cliff's notes version of the saga. Last I read, he left three letter, one to his gay lover. Now there are more?

by Anonymousreply 270May 6, 2017 7:05 PM

R270

Cliff notes assuming you know why hes in jail for the first place: AH Killed himself, they found 3 letters, 1 addressed to his fiance (which was released) 1 to his daughter and 1 to someone else (I use the term someone else because it hasn't been confirmed who it was addressed to) But the guards who found the letters claimed the 3rd one was for his gay lover Kyle Kennedy a fellow inmate who was placed in suicide watch after AH's death and to our knowledge is still on isolated.

While it also hasn't been confirmed what type of relationship KK and AH had, the lawyer has repeatedly denied to answer the question of whether or not they were gay lovers or not. Lawyer said when KK gets access to the media he'll tell his side of the story.

I dont know what else you want to know. Theres been a lot of small tidbits that come out pretty much daily about the whole case. I'll answer any questions you have.

by Anonymousreply 271May 6, 2017 7:16 PM

So he was latino, italiano and irish? Did his farts smell like burritos, cannoli, or 4 leaf clovers?

the texts's's to the other guy would make anyone think it was a gay relationship when it obviously wasn't, which would mean that reporter mcPhee misanalyzed the contents of the "gay lover" note to be a sexual relationship when in reality that is just the way Aaron spoke. he prolly did it cuz he wanted people to tell him the same back, cuz his papi died early and he a void that needed to be filled like Cheryl's stanky pussy on a Saturday night.

his baby momma's makeup was on fleek on the witness stand, huntry!

by Anonymousreply 272May 6, 2017 7:16 PM

Perhaps he did love Shayanna, but if you read that Daily Mail article ):The sad life of Shayanna Jenkins"), maybe he stayed with her because she was a 'ride or die' girl, or to put it another way, she was a doormat. She put up with his cheating (with women), he asked her to get rid of a box after he killed Odin Lloyd, which she did. She sided with him over her own sister after that death as well.

by Anonymousreply 273May 6, 2017 7:18 PM

R272 That could be true about McPhee reading into texts wrong. Her other "smoking gun" is that he deposited a large sum of money into a bank account but that hasn't been confirmed.

But someone is going to have to explain the week long Costa Rica trip.

by Anonymousreply 274May 6, 2017 7:41 PM

If I didn't think Hernandez was gay before. Finding out he referenced this song surely has convinced me

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by Anonymousreply 275May 6, 2017 7:52 PM

I bought savage garden's cd many years ago, I remember one of the hit songs was truly, madly, deeply

i wonder if savage garden was shayanna's fav band or that song was her fav and he mentioned it to let her know he didn't forget etc.

by Anonymousreply 276May 6, 2017 7:57 PM

Also remember he sent letters not only to Kyle but also to his family according to Kyle's lawyer.

by Anonymousreply 277May 6, 2017 7:57 PM

R272 McPhee isn't the one who broke the news about the prison lover. It was the DailyMail, and they got their sources from prison officials.

McPhee only introduced the HS lover and her sources she said were from "multiple law enforcement officials" surely she wouldn't reply entirely on texts to make such accusations.

Also the texts AH sent Bradley were right after he shot the guy in the head, and the guy was asking for a million in compensation. Aaron wasn't about to pay that shit, so you could argue he texted him that way so Bradley would rescind his request. Remember he's a master manipulator.

by Anonymousreply 278May 6, 2017 8:07 PM

I read the article about Shayanna, she came from a poor background, of course she would choose AH over her own family. She didn't really have a job, did she? He was her lottery ticket. I am sure she loved him but she had to put up with a lot. She isn't the typical whorish type with big tits and fake everything that many footballers went for, sure, he probably fucked those types but he chose shayanna to marry and settle down after she got pregnant.

I wonder if she knew he was bi, she was a track star in school or she was in track and field, I wonder if she's bi as well? and that big box she got rid of, the murder weapon was in there?

by Anonymousreply 279May 6, 2017 8:44 PM

In this testimony Shayanna talks about the time they had a falling out over infidelity, she discovered something in his phone she didn't like, and moved out of their home. Then she decides to come back. I keep thinking that what she found in that phone was maybe not a text from a girl, but maybe this male HS boyfriend. Then she decides she would rather have a cushy life as a beard for a talented nfl player than work her ass off for the rest of her life. Maybe I'm way off, but who knows it may have been the start of their "understanding" as she put it. It starts at 47.50min in the clip below.

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by Anonymousreply 280May 6, 2017 9:17 PM

It continues again at 57.15min, just so you don't miss the rest of her testimony on that part of the relationship.

by Anonymousreply 281May 6, 2017 9:22 PM

[quote]She didn't really have a job, did she? He was her lottery ticket.

Ryan was in the same situation...no job and Aaron bailed him out. But they've all known each other since middle school so I guess they cant say they were technically using him since they've been friends and/or lovers for years.

AH's brother Dennis/Jonathan said something about Shayanna briefly in the article @ r244. Dennis and Shayanna made a "mutual decision" to not have a relationship with each other. It sounds like Dennis didn't like her and thought she was using his brother.

Its interesting that Ryan is not mentioned AT ALL in that very good and detailed Sports Illustrated article @ r244, where Dennis talks about everything in their childhood. If they were so close surely Ryan would be like a second brother. I wonder if Dennis didn't like Ryan either. Ryan seems to have been completely isolated from the rest of AH's friends. He didn't go on trips with Shayanna and the rest of AH's people.

by Anonymousreply 282May 6, 2017 9:40 PM

R282 When they asked Ryan what happened to their relationship when they got to HS, it's interesting that his justification for why it "fell off a little bit" was because "his brother was there and stuff like that."

I wonder if Dennis knew of of the nature of their relationship. If he did it'd make sense for him to leave Ryan out.

by Anonymousreply 283May 6, 2017 9:52 PM

Thanks for posting the video, I am watching her testimony now.

by Anonymousreply 284May 6, 2017 9:54 PM

I like Shayanna. Their relationship definitely wasn't bearding. She said she commuted 2 hours each way every day for a job so i don't know why some of you are acting like she's a welfare queen. I feel bad for her, she cared for this guy since she was an early teen and they wanted to be together and now he's gone and her daughter has to grow up without a dad.

by Anonymousreply 285May 6, 2017 10:02 PM

Yes, R282. Ryan emphatically said "no" when asked if he went clubs with Aaron and his friends. Ryan made it clear that he was not part of their group. Ryan seems like a real nice guy and I can't of think of any reason why Hernandez friends or brother did not like him other than he could be gay/bi or white. Or, both.

by Anonymousreply 286May 6, 2017 10:12 PM

[quote][R282] When they asked Ryan what happened to their relationship when they got to HS, it's interesting that his justification for why it "fell off a little bit" was because "his brother was there and stuff like that."

mmmm, I didn't hear Ryan say that, I must go back and watch again! I suspected Ryan's omission by Dennis was indicative that they never got along. Dennis probably knew what was going on and didn't approve of his brother exploring his bi? sexuality. They were all so careful about what they said when he was alive, but you just know there was so much more to the story.

by Anonymousreply 287May 6, 2017 10:12 PM

r287 it's around 55:30

by Anonymousreply 288May 6, 2017 10:16 PM

Exactly, R287. The guy murdered people. What else do they have to be "careful" about? And, not being completely forth coming and honest about the nature of their relationship is perjury, no? He wasn't completely honest and his sexuality was probably the motive of all these people dying. For the law to skirt around that, is terrible. The lawyer should have asked point blank if they were intimate.

by Anonymousreply 289May 6, 2017 10:19 PM

What about AH's relationship with his brother? good? bad? he took care of them financially? bought them cars, houses etc?

by Anonymousreply 290May 6, 2017 10:20 PM

I have no idea.

by Anonymousreply 291May 6, 2017 10:22 PM

r290 the article says that AH did pay off some of his brothers credit card debt, and his brother is one of the first people, if not the first person AH called after he murdered Odin.

They were close and had a good relationship, but Dennis was the responsible one and did not approve of Aaron's thugged out lifestyle. Dennis seems like he was the one who filled their dad's shoes. He held their mom together during AH's arrest and trials. He also had to give up having a career in sports once Aaron was arrested. Every team turned him down for management jobs because he looks just like his brother, and they didn't want to be associated with a murderous sports figure. He started a roofing company in Texas and lives a very humble life.

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by Anonymousreply 292May 6, 2017 10:33 PM

First of all, sure, Ryan and Shayanna look clean cut and nice in court, they PRESENTED themselves very nicely. But who knows what they are like behind closed doors or when cameras are not there?

For all you know, Shayanna was one of those types from your past who kept bugging you. Aaron was a star since high school, lots of girls wanted his attention. Maybe she sucked him off the best and AH kept her number, she said they kept in touch even though he went away to college in FL. She called him one or twice a month, she visited him twice in FL while he was there. Maybe AH liked her BJs and footballers never just have 1 gf, they have sooo many according to Victor Cruz's fiancee or wife, she sent out a text to the "whores" and bragged that yeah, you may fuck him but he's mine etc...

And AH just kept fucking her along with many other men/women and she got pregnant and tied him down. Jackpot! Maybe that's why Dennis, AH's brother didn't like her? she was a gold digger looking for a meal ticket. I don't doubt that she loved him.

The scout said wrote that AH has low self esteem, so maybe AH liked being a "big shot " to his old friends, helped them out, gave them jobs, "bought" his friends with box seats to football games, etc. He never hung out with other pats, maybe he didn't think he was good enough company to hang out with them, he choose to hang out with the "low lives" where he could be the "big shot".

by Anonymousreply 293May 6, 2017 10:36 PM

[quote] The scout said wrote that AH has low self esteem, so maybe AH liked being a "big shot " to his old friends, helped them out, gave them jobs, "bought" his friends with box seats to football games, etc. He never hung out with other pats, maybe he didn't think he was good enough company to hang out with them, he choose to hang out with the "low lives" where he could be the "big shot".

You are probably spot on.

by Anonymousreply 294May 6, 2017 10:53 PM

I remember in part one of this thread several people were dogging Shay's looks. I think she is very feminine and pretty.

And when all is said and done, she may not be what we here at DL consider "rich," I am sure that she and her daughter will be comfortable for life. The Pats are going to eventually have to pony up that salary, and then there's his pension as well. I bet that Baez is working at a greatly reduced rate once again for the national exposure. I mean, dude was a nobody graduate of U Miami ten years ago, and now he is spoken of in the same breath as Roy Black. Cases like Casey Anthony and AH are going to make him THE go to lawyer for rich murderers for the next 25 years.

by Anonymousreply 295May 7, 2017 12:17 AM

[quote]footballers never just have 1 gf, they have sooo many according to Victor Cruz's fiancee or wife, she sent out a text to the "whores" and bragged that yeah, you may fuck him but he's mine etc...

Well Shayanna didn't seem like she was that pressed lol. If anything she probably got into it with AH about Ryan and a few other hoes, but like you said she knew who the breadwinner was. And Aaron wasnt a big whore with other guys it seems, because he could only trust other guys he knew for sure that would be loyal and not put him on blast.

r289 I agree. They asked Shayanna very detailed questions about the nature of their relationship, that had nothing to do with the actual murders and his lawyers didn't even object. If they would've asked Ryan about his relationship they probably would've found out much more about how AH got himself into this situation.

by Anonymousreply 296May 7, 2017 12:19 AM

Shayanna was pregnant during the infamous Costa Rica trip...AH and Ryan were definitely getting it in on that trip

by Anonymousreply 297May 7, 2017 12:52 AM

I mentioned before that AH has another daughter (older) by another slampiece. How that has managed to stay out of all this has baffled many. The current baby momma probably loved him, but as a typical doormat for the good life put up with all AH's bullshit that included gangbangers, drugs and other women (and men, apparently).

AH was a fucking idiot:. he had the world at his feet playing for the best team in the NFL and he threw everything away. If I had blown my chances in such a spectacular fashion I'd have done the deed too.

by Anonymousreply 298May 7, 2017 2:34 AM

R282, I, too, was struck by the omission of Ryan's name from the Sports Illustrated story (which is, indeed, terrific). It’s possible that Jonathan did discuss Ryan, but the SI writer may have decided that wasn’t an area worth exploring, because the story he wanted to tell was about Jonathan and Aaron. It’s also possible that Jonathan may not have mentioned Ryan because there were aspects of Aaron’s life he didn’t want to bring out.

R295, I don't think the Patriots owe AH's estate any more salary. NFL contracts are, for the most part, not guaranteed, because football players have an awful union. The Patriots cut AH the moment he was arrested. The most AH's estate is owed now is his $3.5 million signing bonus. That's what the families of the victims will be aiming at in their lawsuits.

Oh, and this is a fantastic thread.

by Anonymousreply 299May 7, 2017 2:56 AM

OK. So AH smoked pot every day it seems, don't they drug test in NFL? Or did the Pats faked his results? Pats cheat a lot...wouldn't surprise me.

by Anonymousreply 300May 7, 2017 3:32 AM

Well, if the victims sue AH's estate, for any money at a later date, I'm sure we will get to see bank statements and maybe find out where aaron spent his money and those 3 deposits etc.

by Anonymousreply 301May 7, 2017 3:35 AM

Well the victims family better hope the lawsuit against the prison pays out good, so his estate can in turn pay them. Wasn't his money about dried up when he died? Will Shayanna and Ryan have to pay back the money they got? They might not want to buy that new house or make it rain on anyone just yet.

by Anonymousreply 302May 7, 2017 3:56 AM

Ryan (far left) presenting his hole...kinda

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by Anonymousreply 303May 7, 2017 4:54 AM

From March 30 before all of these came out From a reporter watching the testimonies

"The Costa Rica trip #AaronHernandez took with his friend Ryan McDonnell in 2012 appears a sore spot with Shayanna."

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by Anonymousreply 304May 7, 2017 5:29 AM

Theme for Aaron & Ryan's scenes in the motion picture!

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by Anonymousreply 305May 7, 2017 5:30 AM

Shayanna's sideye when asked about the Costa Rica screams

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by Anonymousreply 306May 7, 2017 6:01 AM

Wow, that back is sexy, r303. I'm just imaging Aaron massaging those big shoulders as his thick cock slides deeper and deeper into Ryan's hungry hole.

by Anonymousreply 307May 7, 2017 6:09 AM

I notice Ryan with some tats, I wonder if any one is for AH or like Shayanna's and AH's "matching" tats.

Ryan is so gay. I can't believe the fiancee is that clueless...it will end in tears.

by Anonymousreply 308May 7, 2017 6:15 AM

r306....her testimony came to a SCREECHING hault when the Costa Rica trip was brought up...I don't think Shayanna was pissed about it while she was on the stand...she was probably more surprised at how aggressive the lawyer got because the TEA was about to be spilled gurl!

by Anonymousreply 309May 7, 2017 6:59 AM

r309 Right?! Aaron's lawyer was screaming objection like his life depended on it! What were they so afraid of? I can't believe the Costa Rica trip came up twice in both testimonies and we still don't know WHY it happened and WHAT happened .

You'd think the nature of a week long trip around the time of a double murder deserves more probing.

by Anonymousreply 310May 7, 2017 7:10 AM

R303 that back has been drenched in so many of Aaron's loads. Gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 311May 7, 2017 7:26 AM

[quote]Latino is not a race,and he looked Caucasian

He looked mixed but was a Hispanic man the same way that people who are mixed with black and white are considered black.

by Anonymousreply 312May 7, 2017 3:11 PM

John Schneider looks white. Aaron Hernandez did not.

by Anonymousreply 313May 7, 2017 3:12 PM

Wesley Snipes looks whiter than Hernandez did.

by Anonymousreply 314May 7, 2017 3:12 PM

[quote]I wish Aaron had've let his hair grow out when he was in prison. He never deviated from that low cut/shaped up haircut during the entire time he was in the public eye. I bet he would've had a cute little curly thing going on.

Yes it probably would've been hot

[quote]Ryan is so gay.

1:28

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by Anonymousreply 315May 7, 2017 3:33 PM

Ry's fiance is all about pimping out their relaintionship it seems for free gifts or perks. Don't forget its rumored Hernandez gave a large sum of money to Ryan so I'm sure its helping pay for the wedding.

I'm sure his fiance had no problem with Ryan's hole being likely larger than hers as long as she got to profit from it.

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by Anonymousreply 316May 7, 2017 3:43 PM

That depends on what you consider to be a white appearance. I can garanteee you that he can pass as a native in many Southern european countries and the in balkans.

No baby,a white having black ancestry does not makes him black, nobody goes around with a portable dna kit to exactly measure how much of black or native american dna european looking people in the usa have.

Nobody considers prince Harris an indian, becuase you cant consider a person with european phynotype who looks anglosaxon a hindu or asian.as simple as it is what makes you " white" or "black" to society is your phynotype and not your dna make-up.

AH's mother would pass as latina in Ohio because in the usa anyone with black hair and eyes is considered hispanic no matter how pasty and fair their skin is.

by Anonymousreply 317May 7, 2017 3:47 PM

if you look at photos of Aaron's dad Dennis, he looked black and Hispanic. With the one drop rule I guess that would make Aaron a black Latino too?

by Anonymousreply 318May 7, 2017 3:58 PM

r310

I was hoping Alexander Bradley's testimony would have a mention of the costa rica trip but it doesn't seem to. The story is after the Costa Rica trip, Aaron was picked up by Bradley and they went to the club that night (It was sunday July 15th, Ryan had to go this his nephews baptism)

And thats when those two guys Aaron was accused of killing were murdered.

So while the Costa Rica trip may have had nothing to do with the killing, it still a part of the timeline leading up to the events and likely why Ryan was brought in the questioning. But the prosecuters completely botched the questioning of Ryan

"Was Aaron acting weird at all during those 10 days? Did he show signs of anger? Was he stressed out? Was something bothering him? What was his state of mind?"

All those would have been relevant questions if your argument was Aaron was a hothead that killed two guys because they spilled a drink on him. Seems like the prosecutors just glossed over Costa Rica.

by Anonymousreply 319May 7, 2017 4:04 PM

People like Laz Alonzo and Zoe Zaldana are black Latinos. Aaron is a white Latino.

by Anonymousreply 320May 7, 2017 4:04 PM

To those obsessed with Aaron's ethnicity, can y'all please stop spamming this thread and start a more appropriate thread?

Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 321May 7, 2017 4:41 PM

ITA r319. Hugely important part of the case, completely blocked off by his lawyers because he didnt want people to know his secret. Questions about that trip could've yielded information about the murders.

Could all this information that is now coming out lead to another trial? This whole thing has a new twist now. I mean they can sue his estate right? If they do, Ryan and Shayanna can't be convicted of perjury because the court did not want them to discuss any details about the trip in the first trial.

by Anonymousreply 322May 7, 2017 4:43 PM

Blocking anyone who brings up Aaron's ethnicity. Who gives a fuck. This is a thread about the case/his sexuality not whether or not he was a black latino or a white one.

by Anonymousreply 323May 7, 2017 4:59 PM

Wasn't the guy he killed dating his sister in law? Shayanna probably told her sister she was bothered by the trip to Costa Rica and the reasons why got back to Odin Lloyd.

Aaron was half italian, half puerto rican. Couldve passed as either ethnicity IMO.

by Anonymousreply 324May 7, 2017 5:04 PM

Great point r319 He spent 10 days alone with another individual and on the day he came back he killed two people and all they could ask the individual about the trip was "Did you get delayed on the way back."

Ryan would have been the perfect person to illustrate the mindset that Aaron had leading up the the murders. Looking back I love how Ryan pretends he wasn't sure when they were returning but then a minute late remembers perfectly that he had to attend his nephew's baptism the date of their return.

by Anonymousreply 325May 7, 2017 5:05 PM

R324 A year had passed between Odin's murder and the Costa Rica trip. So while it's possible that Lloyd held onto his info for that long something else probably happened between that time that cause Aaron to kill him.

I'm also not convinced Aaron didn't tell Shayanna something else about the trip, yes she testified that Aaron said "I'm going to Costa Rica with Ryan" and that was it but she could have lied or misremembered exactly what Aaron told her. I dont care if your straight, gay, bi, tri, quad, you don't tell your fiance your going on a vacation with someone else. He probably told her he was going on a guys trip with teammates or some other lie.

She likely found out it was just Aaron and Ryan during the case which is why she was visibly agitated. As for what Ryan told HIS fiance, I have no earthly idea. He's a regular guy who probably shares the same friends she did because they've been together for so long he probably told her it was a bachelor party or something.

by Anonymousreply 326May 7, 2017 5:11 PM

[quote][R324] A year had passed between Odin's murder and the Costa Rica trip. So while it's possible that Lloyd held onto his info for that long something else probably happened between that time that cause Aaron to kill him.

r326, you are correct that Odin's murder was later. But the trial that just ended this year was for the double murder in 2012, which is what I'm referring to. The double murder happened right after Ryan and AH's trip to Costa Rica in 2012.

[quote]I dont care if your straight, gay, bi, tri, quad, you don't tell your fiance your going on a vacation with someone else. He probably told her he was going on a guys trip with teammates or some other lie.

You know he probably did lie to her about it. But Shayanna was halfway through her first pregnancy during the Costa Rica trip. She was likely not pleased with not knowing what he would be up to on the vacation, but she probably didn't want to travel out of the country when pregnant anyway.

by Anonymousreply 327May 7, 2017 5:26 PM

In a text message to Shayanna days before Lloyds murder, Aaron said he had fucked up and got drunk and told Odin about "the spot" and now he was buggin. The "flop house", or apartment (referred to as "the spot") that Aaron had rented was probably the place he took his flings to (Ryan too?). And he had told Shayanna he had rented it for Ernest Wallace, the thug he had started hanging with to likely protect himself from Bradley who was now threatening him. But I'm sure Shayanna knew "the spot" was not really just for Ernest Wallace.

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by Anonymousreply 328May 7, 2017 5:34 PM

That apartment was also the place he took the babysitter to. He had asked her if she wanted a ride to her car, she accepted and he (with Odin in the passenger seat) started driving in the opposite direction, she asked where they were going and Aaron responded "the spot".

by Anonymousreply 329May 7, 2017 5:38 PM

From Ryan's testimony, you can tell that Aaron confided in him a lot; I wonder if it was more than he did with Sheyanna. Even though he never took Ryan to clubs, he comes back and tells him all about it.

I also think it's quite sweet that Ryan knew exactly what Aaron's abbreviated tattoos stood for and the meanings behind them. I get a sense Ryan served as a source of calmness for Aaron, which would explain the frequent and excessive phone calls before and during prison. There was genuine love there. Wondering how Ryan's holding up.

by Anonymousreply 330May 7, 2017 5:44 PM

Did Ryan attend Aaron's funeral?

by Anonymousreply 331May 7, 2017 5:58 PM

r330, Ryan does seem like he was Aaron's therapist and soother. He is the laid back dude that you can tell your deepest secrets and struggles without judgement. Its no wonder that kept Ryan close for most of his life and took him on the vacation.

by Anonymousreply 332May 7, 2017 6:08 PM

In the SI article, AH's brother does label AH "insecure." I thought the problems with AH started after his father died, but an article in the NY Times suggests there were problems before his father died. Unfortunately, there are no specifics.

NY Times: Growing up in the 1990s, Hernandez was known mainly as the athletically gifted, if mischievous, son of Dennis Hernandez, a decorated sports star at the University of Connecticut. Dennis Hernandez was a custodian in Bristol, but around the city he was known as the King.

The elder Hernandez kept a tight rein on Aaron and his older brother Dennis, who was known as D. J. Both Hernandez brothers were renowned for their muscular physiques, competitiveness and talent at football and basketball.

But Aaron, who set Connecticut high school pass receiving records, was often seen with a rough-and-tumble crowd — a matter that worried his father because it might dissuade college recruiters. But his friends and family said that Aaron’s transgressions were largely minor and that he was largely protected within the community, which understood that he was on his way to greater stardom.

R237 Didn't he promise to set up trust funds for his cousin Tanya's 2 kids? I think they're both male.

You can't really talk about him and not discuss his nutty family. There's just too many issues and too much crime in this family. In an old USA Today article, AH stated he was the one keeping both sides of his family together whenever they would argue. That's scary!

by Anonymousreply 333May 7, 2017 7:50 PM

I never really bought into the whole "dad died then he turned to crime" story. If their dad was truly a control freak, could he have been THAT affected by his death? The brother said he barely cried after the death even though they're from an "emotional" family. Maybe he just wasn't affected enough to mourn; but no one wants to talk about that possibility, cause not romantic enough.

You could argue AH was always crazy but the extent of it was minimized under their ultra strict father, and unleashed after his death. Perfectly logical argument. I guess it's romantic to say it all changed when daddy died, but I aint buying it.

by Anonymousreply 334May 7, 2017 8:26 PM

After the sister finds out her bf is dead, the guy who killed him walks up to her, puts his hand on her shoulder and says; "Are you okay? I've been through this death thing before, it'll get better with time". Damn, what a cold two faced creep, if he is not a psychopath I don't know what to think.

Starts at 5.55 minutes.

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by Anonymousreply 335May 7, 2017 8:38 PM

Why is there an assumption that because two men are emotionally close that means they have a sexual relationship? Esp. when it's friends from childhood. I don't make that assumption at all.

by Anonymousreply 336May 7, 2017 10:17 PM

So close that he left a grown man more money than he did his fiancee and daughter? I'd say he was in love with him.

by Anonymousreply 337May 7, 2017 10:34 PM

I wish Ryan would come forward and tell us how he managed to dodge a bullet or several bullets when he was hanging out with AH.

Also, I guess the roofing business didn't work out or DJ Hernandez lost interest. He's now a high school football coach.

by Anonymousreply 338May 7, 2017 10:39 PM

Oh my, AH was insecure? but his cock is huge!!!

by Anonymousreply 339May 7, 2017 10:46 PM

OK, so does Pueto Rico has legal prostitution? I know sometimes guys go on trips to fuck whores/get laid. Shayanna could have thought it was this kind of trip. But she probably knows their relationship by now...no? I mean, just look at the the guy, I could tell he was gay within a few min. She's known Ryan since high school as well...she must know.

Regarding the money. Depending on how much the HS BF knew about his crimes, I can see that the money was for the HS BF to zip his mouth and/or because he loved him the most. Remember, deposit was made before arrest and he was questioned in grand jury.

by Anonymousreply 340May 7, 2017 10:54 PM

It doesn't seem like Aaron is the type to give someone money to zip their mouth. When he shot Bradley, Bradley asked for money to keep his mouth shut and Aaron refused.

As bad as it sounds, it's more probable that he loved Ryan the most and wanted to make sure he was financially comfortable. I don't think he would tell Ryan things or keep him around if he didn't trust him a 100%.

by Anonymousreply 341May 7, 2017 11:04 PM

Can anyone link to an article that mentions the bank deposits?

Is this public record?

by Anonymousreply 342May 7, 2017 11:05 PM

r342

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by Anonymousreply 343May 7, 2017 11:14 PM

I wonder if he had thing going on with Bradley too. The NYPost called their exchanges after the double murder "duplicitous"

[quote]Hernandez, who had identified Bradley as “Lies” in his phone contacts at the time, then told him that he missed him every day.

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by Anonymousreply 344May 8, 2017 1:02 AM

Is it confirmed that he gave money to Ryan? Also he could've transfer money to hide it from future legal problems.

by Anonymousreply 345May 8, 2017 1:04 AM

Bradley's deep gangsta voice makes me WEAK

by Anonymousreply 346May 8, 2017 1:34 AM

r343 The timeline of information has gotten so skewed but if this was the first mention of the details inside of the case, Michelle has been spot on about everything. So I guess she wasn't lying about the bank accounts either.

r345 Ryan is 90% the person. He fits every breadcrumb clue about the identity. Now as to wether Aaron left him the money because of a sexual relationship with the two or being best friends thats probably up for debate.

by Anonymousreply 347May 8, 2017 1:48 AM

Can someone explain to me how Aaron shot Bradley in the face at point blank range and Bradley survived and not only survived but only had a scar and a fucked up eye?

This Bradley character is obviously shady as fuck. I dont get it.

by Anonymousreply 348May 8, 2017 1:54 AM

Bradley to Hernandez: "the only reason you even got to rock me is because we was so one hundred"

This is SOUNDS pretty gay but mostly because I have no idea what the fuck it means. I know what "so one hundred" means (Being cool/tight/friendly) but anyone know what letting another man "rock me" means?

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by Anonymousreply 349May 8, 2017 2:09 AM

'rock me' in that context most likely means to "affect me this way"

But yeah it sounds pretty gay. I've noticed his manipulation techniques are quite homoerotic in nature.

by Anonymousreply 350May 8, 2017 2:20 AM

[quote]Bradley to Hernandez: "the only reason you even got to rock me is because we was so one hundred"

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by Anonymousreply 351May 8, 2017 2:23 AM

So Aaron would scope out what lucky twink or thug got to feel his huge latin cock. Made them feel "one hundred" and then those men let him "rock them"

What a man.

by Anonymousreply 352May 8, 2017 2:24 AM

I wonder if a man ever turned down Aaron and lived to tell about it.

by Anonymousreply 353May 8, 2017 2:26 AM

How sad.

by Anonymousreply 354May 8, 2017 2:47 AM

"Rock me" can be used in either context, either being really violent to someone or sexing someone good. Its really hard to tell in this case because they are saying how much they love each other. But in the same breath talking about how Bradley got his eye shot out. Homothugs are so hard to read. So much duplicity and switch hitting!

by Anonymousreply 355May 8, 2017 2:47 AM

imma look AA up in heaven and be on him like

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by Anonymousreply 356May 8, 2017 2:53 AM

Bradley must the luckiest guy, should be counting his lucky stars, that he survived that. He was the pot dealer right? or was it someone else?

by Anonymousreply 357May 8, 2017 3:34 AM

It's weird that AH is the confirmed murderer, yet I see him as a kind, loving friend; whereas Bradley scares the fuck out of me ever since I saw him on the stand declaring his hate fro Aaron.

I am sure that I have it backwards in reality, but Aaron, with those damn dimples, just is not a scary looking dude.

by Anonymousreply 358May 8, 2017 5:30 AM

[quote]It's weird that AH is the confirmed murderer, yet I see him as a kind, loving friend;

Well you would be a dead man if you were his friend, that is exactly how Aaron lured his victims in. All his victims trusted him, and then he turned on them viciously. To me Aaron is way scarier that Bradley. Bradley is a thug and he definitely is pretty scary. Even Baez was a little shaken by his aggressive demeanor. But at least he's not manipulative and you know what you are going to get.

Aarons mother seems to have been that way as well, betraying people close to her like Tanya. Aaron seems to have gotten that from her, and its no wonder they had a very strained relationship. All this violent thug behavior could partly have been caused by his mommy issues.

by Anonymousreply 359May 8, 2017 5:55 AM

R358

Nah, it's because you are dangerously naive, don't understand human nature and tend to romanticize homosexual relationship. Good luck with all that.

by Anonymousreply 360May 8, 2017 5:57 AM

R358 I'm sure if Ryan fucked another dude, he'd kill him too esp if he loved him. He seems to have a switch; one moment he's proclaiming his love for you, the next he's left you lying in a ditch.

I wonder if a little part of Ryan feared him. It takes a lot of bravery to travel to a foreign country alone with a hot tempered and dangerous dude like Aaron for 7-9 days.

Surely he knew about Aaron violent tendencies since he shared a lot of stuff with him. Perhaps he thought he was immune.

by Anonymousreply 361May 8, 2017 6:59 AM

Do you think AH cut the fiancée out of the photo? 🙄

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by Anonymousreply 362May 8, 2017 2:53 PM

I love Brady's smile in that photo, it's like he looks at AH lovingly and part "knowingly" perhaps?. I wonder if his teammates ever thought it odd he had this cute personal assistant around with him.

by Anonymousreply 363May 8, 2017 3:07 PM

r362 It doesn't look like she made it in. AH is directly facing Ryan and the GF is on very the far right.

by Anonymousreply 364May 8, 2017 4:19 PM

r362 Great find. Makes me think even more that Ryan's fiance knew what was up and was in on it for the perks.

by Anonymousreply 365May 8, 2017 4:21 PM

So check out this article. Written shortly after the double murder that Aaron was accused of. The writer thinks it was "creepy" because of the way Aaron answered his question to how his summer was. But since we now know about the Costa Rica trip that took place roughly a week before the interview. The answers seem a little more clear huh?

“Aaron, was your summer as crazy as Gronk’s? “Um, more private,” Hernandez said to the delight of the crowd surrounding him. “But I still had some fun.” Like what? Can you give us some examples of the fun you had? “That’s still private but…” Hernandez said to more laughter. “Next question.”

What a love story those two had.

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by Anonymousreply 366May 8, 2017 4:32 PM

@r365 I honestly don't think she had a clue, if McPhee is right about there being a bf from HS that is, Ryan and this girl have been together since HS also.

by Anonymousreply 367May 8, 2017 4:32 PM

r367 She went to the same HS as Ryan, Aaron and Shayanna did.

by Anonymousreply 368May 8, 2017 4:35 PM

@r368 yep, and according to their wedding page, or whatever it was, they were voted the cutest couple in HS. So, been together a long time. That's why I don't think she ever suspected. IF Ryan is the HS boyfriend McPhee talked about, that has never been confirmed.

by Anonymousreply 369May 8, 2017 4:40 PM

She looks ditzy enough not to have suspected anything. Add the fact that Aaron himself had a girlfriend, and it's even more likely that she didn't suspect anything.

by Anonymousreply 370May 8, 2017 4:44 PM

Maybe Ryan isn't the HS bf. Maybe it was the other guy. Remember he testified in the grand jury, and probably gave enough testimony for the prosecutors to charge AH for the crimes he was charged with, I'm assuming this is the first trial. And AH felt betrayed and stopped all communication after that.

by Anonymousreply 371May 8, 2017 8:51 PM

R371 Michelle McPhee claimed that the "HS BF" had a story written about him from Fox25. Ryan is the only person to our knowledge that fits that.

Article linked:

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by Anonymousreply 372May 8, 2017 9:00 PM

She also specified that the fox25 article about the lover was written in 2013. The article linked by r372 was back in 2013. I looked it up and fox25 never did anything on Robert Paradis (the only other guy it could have been).

by Anonymousreply 373May 8, 2017 9:07 PM

Alexander Bradley said on the stand that Hernandez always had this gangster act when they would go out to clubs together, and that he would get real agitated if someone was looking at him. Aaron had asked Bradley "why aren't they looking at you like that?" And Bradley had tried to explain that unlike himself, who was just a regular guy, Hernandez was an NFL star playing for the Patriots, and people staring at him just came with the territory of fame. But AH would always claim that people were "testing" him, thinking he was "soft". There was a lot of insecurity in that guy.

by Anonymousreply 374May 8, 2017 9:08 PM

McPhee probably wrote that article.

Whoever DID seemed to know about the nature of their relationship. The question he asked Ryan and going out of his or her way to write Aaron letters asking about Ryan (Which he ignored) seems fishy to me.

I hate that so many people are sitting on tea and no leaking or spilling it. All this stuff has been out there for years and its now just coming into light.

by Anonymousreply 375May 8, 2017 9:12 PM

Aaron's brain was fried between drug abuse and concussions and likely mental issues. And he was likely bipolar.

by Anonymousreply 376May 8, 2017 9:14 PM

Aaron had paranoid personality disorder, my best guess anyway. Here is a psychologist explaining to infamous mob hitman Richard Kuklinski what makes him able to do the things he did, skip to 6.30 if you want the part about Paranoid personality disorder. It's a fascinating clip either way.

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by Anonymousreply 377May 8, 2017 9:28 PM

R374 - I watched Alexander Bradley's testimony on youtube and you really have to wonder about the former "honor student," Aaron Hernandez. How can he not know why people are staring at him? Is he retarded?

by Anonymousreply 378May 8, 2017 9:49 PM

Imagine a road trip with AH driving, Ryan sat beside him (shirt off, singing and bouncing up and down to Keith Urban) and AH's two go to thugs, Wallace and Ortiz, sat in the back.

Costa Rica life in the front. Thug life in the back. I bet that would've been awkward.

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by Anonymousreply 379May 8, 2017 11:01 PM

😂😂😂😂😂

@r379 if you add to that Aaron smoking a blunt, no facial expression, while Bradley stealthily tries to follow them in his car watching through binoculars, the image really is complete.

by Anonymousreply 380May 8, 2017 11:09 PM

wait. how did odin know AH was bi? I mean, if this guy who only got to know him for a short period of time could find out, I find it hard to believe that his best mates or close family didn't know he was bi. Guess, they were just playing along, waiting for AH to come out when he chose to and kept their mouths shut while enjoying the "benefits" esp financial by being friends/family with him.

by Anonymousreply 381May 8, 2017 11:14 PM

Well, if the statement from Wallace that he would not have helped AH if he had known he was a "limp wrist" is true, that indicates he didn't know.

by Anonymousreply 382May 8, 2017 11:18 PM

Ok, then when did wallace find out about AH being a "limp wrist"?

by Anonymousreply 383May 8, 2017 11:20 PM

@r383 McPhee never disclosed that. But he said this while he was talking to Tanya Singleton (AHs cousin), it was a recorded phone call.

by Anonymousreply 384May 8, 2017 11:23 PM

Here is the exact part about the limp wrist comment from the Newsweek article:

[quote] Ernest Wallace, a co-defendant in the Lloyd murder case, told detectives the victim had called Hernandez a “schmoocher,” which was taken by Hernandez and his companions as a gay slur. Wallace was also recorded saying during a jailhouse visit with Tanya Singleton, Hernandez’s cousin, that he would not have helped Hernandez get rid of the murder weapon—a crime for which he is now serving a 4½-to-7 year sentence on accessory to murder charges—if he had known Hernandez was a “limp wrist,” multiple sources say.

by Anonymousreply 385May 8, 2017 11:36 PM

[R380] 😆 AH would definitely need a blunt. Imagine the stress! Him trying to impress his gangsta buds and then Savage Garden starts booming out 😨

by Anonymousreply 386May 8, 2017 11:59 PM

Aaron's twitter account is gone but you can still see people who quoted him years ago. He tweeted this in Feb of 2012 (FIVE MONTHS BEFORE THE TRIP!!)

15 Feb 2012 “@AaronHernandez: There ain't shit to do I can't wait to get outta mass in a week!!! Aruba Cali costa rica and more!!! Jus what I need”

Looks like this getaway with Ryan was planned for a while and he was really looking forward to it. He probably took Shayanna to Aruba and promised Ryan he would get his too. How cute.

by Anonymousreply 387May 9, 2017 12:44 AM

Do yall think his thug buddies knew he was bisexual and didn't care because he was rich and paid their way on boys trips to Miami, etc? It seems like that was the case. They spent way too much time with him to not know.

by Anonymousreply 388May 9, 2017 1:26 AM

Aaron with kids

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by Anonymousreply 389May 9, 2017 1:34 AM

wait, I thought Shayanna got rid of the weapon which was in the box she disposed of?

Did Wallace put the weapon in the box?

I don't think his thug buddies knew. He hid it well but I'm sure Shayanna knew for sure, cmon, his music choices, Savage Garden? I don't know any straight man who liked that shit.

by Anonymousreply 390May 9, 2017 1:39 AM

He also likes Rihanna. GUUUUUURRRLLLL!

by Anonymousreply 391May 9, 2017 2:33 AM

I don't think his comment "why are they looking at me and not you" implies AH was retarded.

If there were regular men, women and children looking at him I am sure he was aware that it was because of his Patriot fame. It has been stated over and over that he, his brother and even his dad were legends in the Bristol sports world and were always the center of attention. He was accustomed to that.

We have been told by experts and family members that he was insecure. This is just my opinion, but I really don't think that thug life came all that naturally to Aaron. And we know that all that behavior did not start until after his dad's death. I think that morphing into a "bad boy" was actually a defensive mechanism to grow a thick skin, butch up and mask all that "inner Savage Garden sensitivity" which was his TRUE nature.

So when he saw thuggish or at least Alpha males glaring at him he was subconsciously wondering, "are they seeing right through the facade? Do they sense I really would rather be cuddling with Ryan in front of the TV watching a good movie?" Okay, admittedly that's a bit over the top, but I think you get my point. Rough tough Aaron was not the natural born Aaron. Why else would he be baked 24/7 and smoking sherm laced blunts? He was on a perpetual treadmill to appear to be what he wasn't. The drugs help mask the pain and inner confusion of living a duplicitous life. THAT is something I know about only too well.

Both Ryan and Shay knew the true "Savage Garden Aaron" and he could be himself without putting up barriers only with them. This is also why Ryan had no fear of him or his "rage," I don't remember reading anything about Shay being a victim of domestic violence over the years; and if he were truly the outta control roided up bully the media has presented him as being, I think there would have been at least one publicized incident a la Ray Rice. You know the media dug deep for that stuff during the first trial.

by Anonymousreply 392May 9, 2017 4:49 AM

[quote]He also likes Rihanna. GUUUUUURRRLLLL!

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by Anonymousreply 393May 9, 2017 5:05 AM

[quote]So when he saw thuggish or at least Alpha males glaring at him he was subconsciously wondering, "are they seeing right through the facade?

but the thing is most of his close friends were thugs like Bradley, i guess he was paranoid of them too? or i guess he felt like he could trust them...

by Anonymousreply 394May 9, 2017 5:07 AM

R392, Shayanna called 911 at least once. He punched his fist through a window. And the cops came to the house more than once. I read it somewhere...I've read so many articles on him...can't remember which lol.

by Anonymousreply 395May 9, 2017 5:42 AM

Don't forget he was in the bloods gang, they kill people for staring at them the wrong way...

by Anonymousreply 396May 9, 2017 5:43 AM

r395 They had an argument while he was drunk, yet he never touched her. Instead he took out his aggression on the window.

by Anonymousreply 397May 9, 2017 5:44 AM

Managed to read through this whole thread.

R247, while no-one can turn back time for Aaron Hernandez to return, then there are many pre-murder Aarons.

On one hand, the later Hernandez patriarch and the surrounding community were said to have kept Aaron out of trouble.

But on the other hand, a strict and unloving parent can cause just as much damage.

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My best theory about the possible motives for Aaron Hernandez killing Odin Lloyd is, that Lloyd possibly knew both about Hernandez's sexuality and maybe previous things that could well gave gotten Hernandez into prison.

Suppose Lloyd was stupid enough to play either damning part against one another to Hernandez: "I won't tell that I know you've killed someone" vs [but if you threaten me,] "I'm gonna tell your homies that you're gay". Or vice versa or something else that is similar. This would have well gotten Hernandez into a tizzy.

Of course, now it's impossible to know now, which of these things Hernandez was more afraid of coming out.

by Anonymousreply 398May 9, 2017 5:50 AM

r394 the text messages between AH and Bradley doesn't sound very thugish to me. I mean they said stuff like "I love you", "I miss you" "I'm watching videos of us together..." to each other so clearly there was a level of comfort. Why he tried to kill him, I'd never know.

by Anonymousreply 399May 9, 2017 5:55 AM

* the late Hernandez patriarch

(not 'later')

by Anonymousreply 400May 9, 2017 6:07 AM

R399

Just as well, the 'I love you' SMSes broadcast just around the time he shot Bradley, were probably meant to throw off the scent (to possibly mislead the investigators). In a way.

Upthread, there's a post that also explains how some people throw 'I love yous' around just like that, so.

by Anonymousreply 401May 9, 2017 6:12 AM

I'm not sure if this is what you meant R401, but on a recent NBC Dateline special rehashing the Lacy Peterson case, they played a message Scott left on Lacy's phone AFTER he killed her in which he was all lovey dovey, called her beautiful and told her how much he loved and missed her(this was left on his ride home from the fishing trip to the Oakland area where he dumped her body.

by Anonymousreply 402May 9, 2017 6:28 AM

[quote] What legal impact could the potential discovery of CTE in Aaron Hernandez's brain have?

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by Anonymousreply 403May 9, 2017 3:37 PM

Wow murder conviction thrown out by judge.

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by Anonymousreply 404May 9, 2017 3:40 PM

Aaron Hernandez is now an innocent man in the eyes of the law, but will the Patriots pay up?

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by Anonymousreply 405May 9, 2017 3:45 PM

"Shayanna Jenkins has filed an injunction to prevent any additional Aaron Hernandez's letters being released publicly."

Whatchu hiding girl?

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by Anonymousreply 406May 9, 2017 4:20 PM

R406 Unfortunately doesn't look like she's going to win THAT battle

"Meanwhile, a New Bedford judge just denied Shayanna Jenkins Hernandez's motion to stop the release of more suicide notes."

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by Anonymousreply 407May 9, 2017 4:23 PM

Shouldn't it be up to the person to whom the suicide letters are addressed to decide whether or not to release the notes?

by Anonymousreply 408May 9, 2017 4:28 PM

r408 Well one is to her daughter and the other (which is supposedly not addressed to anyone) is being claimed by her side as a letter for Baez, the attorney for Aaron.

by Anonymousreply 409May 9, 2017 4:37 PM

Steph Machado‏  @StephMachado 2m .@BristolDA plans to file appeal of decision. "He should not be able to accomplish in death what he could not have accomplished in life"

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by Anonymousreply 410May 9, 2017 4:48 PM

R408, since AH was a prison inmate, he was not entitled to personal property -- the letters belong to the State of MA, which, I believe, has kept the originals. The letters are also potential evidence in the negligence suit Baez was threatening to bring against the prison. It seems that the letters are bound to come out, either because reporters seek them under the State equivalent of the Freedom of Information Act, or because they are used in a lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 411May 9, 2017 4:50 PM

Misconception that the patriots owe Hernandez money:

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by Anonymousreply 412May 9, 2017 4:52 PM

McPhee has been radio silent about this case ever since she was being criticized. She can't ignore this, its a major story. Its currently the #3 trend on Twitter. She did tweet about it, maybe she'll talk some more.

by Anonymousreply 413May 9, 2017 4:57 PM

Kyle was AHs barber, not lover, that is the story Kyle will probably tell.

by Anonymousreply 414May 9, 2017 5:08 PM

R414 Did you hear that from somewhere? I just find it so hard to believe that he wouldn't just have said that already.

by Anonymousreply 415May 9, 2017 5:36 PM

We already know Kyle was getting his barbers license and then there are tweets and YouTube comments from people supposedly knowing people on inside. Makes sense to me if he says thats all it was.

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by Anonymousreply 416May 9, 2017 5:40 PM

I cut my fella's hair too.

by Anonymousreply 417May 9, 2017 5:50 PM

[quote]McPhee has been radio silent about this case ever since she was being criticized.

I listened every day. McPhee "getting soooo tired of this story" was long before the New Yorker article; it coincided with Kathy Curran's report.

by Anonymousreply 418May 9, 2017 5:58 PM

R416 Good find. I'd love to see the youtube comments in question. Take these with a grain of salt though, you're taking the word of some people on Youtube who claim to have "inside info" vs the claim of law enforcement officials who stated that Kyle and Aaron were gay lovers.

Imagine yourself being a guard in the prison cells, you are on watchout duty for hours. You know the relationship that the people you are monitoring. You probably know what kind of activities they do. So when Aaron died, the first thing that guard does was tell the Daily Mail they were gay lovers and the letter was addressed to him. So while yes its very possible Kyle is going to come out and say he was just Aaron's barber or something it doesn't refute the past that prison guards had reason to state that him and Aaron had a sexual relationship.

by Anonymousreply 419May 9, 2017 5:59 PM

@r419 never said I believed that's all it was, but that I can definitely see Kyle saying that's all it was, being his barber and friend.

by Anonymousreply 420May 9, 2017 6:02 PM

They are giving Kyle some compliments on his work though.

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by Anonymousreply 421May 9, 2017 6:05 PM

R419 A lot of the YT and Twitter posters are also horrified that their multi-murdering hero could possibly be bi or (even worse) gay.

by Anonymousreply 422May 9, 2017 6:06 PM

The look on Aaron's face while Bradley was testifying lol.

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by Anonymousreply 423May 9, 2017 6:09 PM

YT comments are incredibly homophobic so take anything you read with a shaker of salt.

by Anonymousreply 424May 9, 2017 6:10 PM

I can't believe we are even discussing "youtube comments" as a source.

by Anonymousreply 425May 9, 2017 6:12 PM

So Kyle and Aaron had an agreement. Kyle cuts his hair, Aaron gave him this:

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by Anonymousreply 426May 9, 2017 6:14 PM

If Kyle was AH's lover, he's hardly going to admit to that while he's still in prison, is he?

by Anonymousreply 427May 9, 2017 6:14 PM

Sweetie when you fuck in prison it's not a secret. Fucking for protection is a way of life. Kyle will have to find another protector when he gets out of isolation.

by Anonymousreply 428May 9, 2017 6:17 PM

The "youtube comments" are likely from Kyle's friend whos facebook we saw that said he had seen the letters and they weren't lovers even though the letters hadn't even been released to Aaron's estate yet.

There's no use speculating until Kyle speaks out and we hear what he has to say. Then we can make a judgement about if he's full of shit or his story "checks out"

by Anonymousreply 429May 9, 2017 6:21 PM

r428 Does VH1 still have Mob Wives? Maybe they can make a spinoff "Prison Husbands"

by Anonymousreply 430May 9, 2017 6:22 PM

I would enjoy that.

by Anonymousreply 431May 9, 2017 6:24 PM

Mcphee really backed off this story, nothing more about the explosive revelation in the letter, no more sources, it's like she pretends she never mentioned it.

by Anonymousreply 432May 9, 2017 6:26 PM

Was Aaron versatile? It's hot when big guys bottom.

by Anonymousreply 433May 9, 2017 6:27 PM

Two sides of the same fanboy/girl coin...

[quote] A lot of the DL posters are also horrified that their multi-murdering hero could possibly be bi or (even worse) straight.

AH is dead and buried, no one on either side has a chance with him, so what difference does it make? Is the urge to masturbate to fantasies of him fucking midget-faced people with wide-set eyes (Shayanna for one demographic; Kyle and Ryan for the other) really that strong?

by Anonymousreply 434May 9, 2017 6:28 PM

R428. I still don't believe he would admit to that until he was safe out of prison. Wouldn't he be punished for being a 'snitch' if he said it now? Just look at the stick he's already getting from outside the prison.

by Anonymousreply 435May 9, 2017 6:29 PM

Whos saying Kyle is snitching. If he and Aaron were prison lovers and he's comfortable sharing that when he talks whos to say this isn't something Aaron was okay with. There have been some talk that Aaron didn't "hide" his relationship with Kyle which would support the thought that the prison guards knew about it when they leaked the info about the letters and Kyle.

And what's Aaron's "story" that he wants Shayanna to tell the world? Maybe Kyle was privy to that same "story"

No one knows its all just speculation at this point with one side having more juice than the other.

by Anonymousreply 436May 9, 2017 6:35 PM

R434 I don't want a chance with him, thanks. But I am nosy and I'll admit, I would love to know why he ended up doing what he did. So why did you come on here?

by Anonymousreply 437May 9, 2017 6:37 PM

I love when people come on a gossip board and scolds people for *gasp* gossiping.

by Anonymousreply 438May 9, 2017 6:48 PM

Anywho. So the DA is going to appeal the judge's decision of vacating the murder. But they have to prove that Aaron killed himself with the sole purpose of getting rich. Baez and Shayanna now have to prove that Aaron killed himself for other reasons. I'm sure Baez is now wishing he didn't dismiss Aaron's sexuality so easily, He could have or can now argue that Aaron killed himself because of he was gay or bi. Maybe he'll flip flop.

by Anonymousreply 439May 9, 2017 6:55 PM

The same reason that you're here, r437: nosiness. I'm not complaining about gossip. I hope he turns out that he was gay, that the third letter was to Kyle, and that it was written in the same florid manner as his texts, because that will make for a better story.

What I do find amusing is the dismay over people elsewhere on the internet having an investment in AH being straight. It takes a high level of willful obtuseness to not recognize that the same thing is being done here, in the opposite direction.

Oh well, the screecher will be on in a few minutes. I'll update if she has anything new.

by Anonymousreply 440May 9, 2017 6:57 PM

R440 I'm dismayed by the homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 441May 9, 2017 7:12 PM

Isn't Kyle still on suicide watch? He must have really loved shaving that head.

by Anonymousreply 442May 9, 2017 7:18 PM

Did he also shave the balls?

by Anonymousreply 443May 9, 2017 7:21 PM

"Oh my god Aaron Hernandez died. Better put his barber on suicide watch."

What a load of bullshit this idea that Kyle was JUST his barber.

by Anonymousreply 444May 9, 2017 7:23 PM

I am, too, r441. My dismay also extends to Michele McPhee's homophobia and the pall it casts over her reporting, but that seems to be just fine and dandy on DL.

And btw, a half hour in and there's been no mention of AH. It's state flags and liberal judges today, then she has Doug Goudie coming in to talk about his book on the great Nantucket fire of 1846.

by Anonymousreply 445May 9, 2017 7:27 PM

This journo had a run in with AH when they were kids playing basketball:

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by Anonymousreply 446May 9, 2017 7:50 PM

Interesting piece here:

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by Anonymousreply 447May 9, 2017 8:17 PM

r446 Aaron fits the profile of a sociopath. However it makes for a better defense to say he was a sweet boy who turned to crime following the death of his father.

by Anonymousreply 448May 9, 2017 9:02 PM

R445, but is McPhee really a homophobe? My understanding is that, in 2007, she made a comment about male fashion designers and the way they want women to look, i.e., tall but without breasts or hips, like boys. It's a very common observation. She expressed it a typically coarse way, but I don't think she was trying to argue that "all gay men are child molesters."

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by Anonymousreply 449May 9, 2017 9:05 PM

Michele McPhee has a very long history of sly remarks — sometimes delivered in gay voice — always followed by "...[italic]if[/italic] you know what I'm saying." She also shows a complete unwillingness to challenge her callers on overt homophobia.

Most recently, it was a caller who made several references to AH being a "sexual deviant," to which she nonchalantly responded "yup" and carried on as if it were nothing.

But, hey, this is DL of 2017...

by Anonymousreply 450May 9, 2017 9:41 PM

r450 McPhee is only relevant because she's the only reporter willing to explore this aspect of the AH case. No one is saying she's a good person., so please get off your high horse.

by Anonymousreply 451May 9, 2017 9:55 PM

A description of AH's father from Rolling Stone:

An All-Everything tailback, he was the rare kid from Bristol to get a full-ride offer to the University of Connecticut, the state’s only Division I football program. (David, a wide receiver, got one too.) Alas, Dennis was no angel: He loved to drink and get high, and had lousy taste in friends, which did him in. His best buddy was a teammate, Rocco Testa, who fancied himself a mobster-in-training. “Rocco and his uncle did burglaries together, broke into houses here in town,” says Detective Sgt. John Sassu of the Bristol Police Department, who also went to high school with the twins. “He got Dennis and David in it before the three of them went to UConn, then more so after they all dropped out.”

The twins were pinched for small-change crimes – assault and petty larceny – in the decade after they both left UConn. As late as 1990, Dennis was busted for burglary, though neither brother seems to have done prison time. Friends say they also occasionally smoked crack, beat up dealers for drugs and cash, and bet way over their heads on sports. As for their pal Testa, he was caught in the act while robbing a house with his uncle, who shot and killed a cop while they tried to escape. “The rumor on the street was Dennis and David were there too,” says Sassu, “but we couldn’t make the case.”

Like father, like son, but Aaron took it further.

by Anonymousreply 452May 9, 2017 9:56 PM

Right, r451. I'm on my high horse because you can't bear to have your beloved Trumptard called out as the homophobe she is.

But, please, do continue with your assertion that she hasn't been proven wrong about anything (K2 in his urine be damned!) and trying to police what's posted in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 453May 9, 2017 10:07 PM

Was Shayanna invited to Ryan's wedding?

by Anonymousreply 454May 9, 2017 10:09 PM

[quote][R362] It doesn't look like she made it in. AH is directly facing Ryan and the GF is on very the far right.

Ever heard of zoom focus or wide angle lens?

by Anonymousreply 455May 9, 2017 10:22 PM

"As to the first item: Most of you Cyberians who visit these Facebook pages know that, at least for the first few weeks, Aaron Hernandez almost exclusively called his longtime high school friend, Ryan McDonnell. Ryan played baseball at the same high school which AH attended. He acted as AH’s driver during AH’s visit to LA in early 2012 – we’ve all seen that YouTube video of them at Saddle Ranch Steakhouse on the Sunset Strip. And during those jailhouse phone calls, AH was openly discussing with Ryan McDonnell, about the extent to which he could be held civilly liable for the actions by his employees."

"There are not too many other persons who have been “put on the list” to talk to AH – Shayanna, AH’s mother Terri Hernandez, his brother D. J. Hernandez, and so on. I just cannot hardly wait to know with whom AH was talking, when he “talked in code”. Don’t you want to know who else were “code talkers”?"

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by Anonymousreply 456May 9, 2017 11:03 PM

R454 I think they're getting married in late June. I can't see Shayanna buying a hat, though.

by Anonymousreply 457May 9, 2017 11:22 PM

I am strangely torn. I'm finding some kind of nobility and honor in Aaron's suicide because he took care of his baby momma. His death vacats the murder charges and leaves his estate less likely to be taken away by a civil suit. He did one thing to take care of his family.

However, he murdered someone, they deserve justic. So I'm torn.

by Anonymousreply 458May 10, 2017 12:11 AM

Strange, but only now i realized how shitty it was of prison administration to expose his prison relationship that way. I feel sorry for Kyle. They had no right to expose him.

by Anonymousreply 459May 10, 2017 1:13 AM

So will his lawyers have to prove that he killed himself because he all of a sudden became religious, or that he was having a crisis with his sexuality, instead of killing himself for the purpose of making Shayanna wealthy?

by Anonymousreply 460May 10, 2017 2:16 AM

I don't think anyone would care if Kyle admitted they were lovers. Hets won't believe it anyway,they'll just say he's doing it for money and publicity.

by Anonymousreply 461May 10, 2017 5:41 AM

R460 Pretty much. Their best case is the sexuality angle which to this point Jose Baez has denied. So maybe they'll say it was religious reasons but then again Jose is saying Aaron was murdered so they are all fucked up.

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by Anonymousreply 463May 10, 2017 11:45 AM

Shayanna getting that money girl. Shes getting interviewed by Dr. Phil and it will air in a two part special on Monday and Tuesday.

"The Dr. Phil interview will also reportedly explore the rumor that Hernandez had a “purported secret romantic life” in prison with inmate Kyle Kennedy."

Now will she spill the tea or will she deny deny deny. Its important to note that Aaron told her to tell "his story" so Dr. Phil better ask her.

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by Anonymousreply 464May 10, 2017 2:06 PM

If only Ryan was sat in black beside her. Come on, Dr Phil, get your wallet out and get him on!

by Anonymousreply 465May 10, 2017 2:47 PM

R464 I'm betting she will act stupid (even if he actually was bi/gay) and say that the bi/gay rumors are not true. She will probably spin it like it's a "vicious lie", and she has no idea why people would even think that way!

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by Anonymousreply 467May 10, 2017 2:54 PM

R66 AH did tell her to talk FULLY about his life. What's she got to lose?

by Anonymousreply 468May 10, 2017 2:59 PM

I know Dr. Phil is a big name but how is he as an interviewer? Does he do his research? Does he even know about Ryan/The HS Boyfriend. Will he ask her questions we want to know like if she ever had any suggestions Aaron was gay or bi?

Whether or not she denies it or even doesn't speak on it, I'm still excited to hear what she has to say. And its a two part interview right? Does his show run for an hour? They are gonna talk for 2 hours?

by Anonymousreply 469May 10, 2017 3:00 PM

R469 Well it says above that they're going to explore the rumours AH had a 'purported secret romantic life' with K.

"Secret romantic life"? Were they having candlelit dinners in there?

So how will the Kyle camp react to this? She might steal his thunder.

by Anonymousreply 470May 10, 2017 3:13 PM

Kyle has 4 days if thats the case to capitalize on the money before she does. Shame he's probably still on suicide watch. I'd love nothing more than for Shay to deny it only to have Kyle come out and refute her claims and we get into a petty word war between the two on who a psychopathic murderer loved more.

I love messy drama.

by Anonymousreply 471May 10, 2017 3:23 PM

I want to know who the inmate who spent 2 hours locked in AH's cell a couple of days before his suicide was . Honey,they werent having a bible study,Im betting there was some serious dicking going down.And Im betting it was KK trying to earn that $50,000 watch.

by Anonymousreply 472May 10, 2017 3:38 PM

R472 Do you think the guard let them finish before busting them up? Did he wait outside the door and wait for the moaning and pounding to stop? Maybe he was the leak to the daily mail

by Anonymousreply 473May 10, 2017 3:41 PM

r472 Aaron was just getting a haircut

by Anonymousreply 474May 10, 2017 3:42 PM

Do you think the guard jerked it while he was listening?

by Anonymousreply 475May 10, 2017 3:48 PM

They were just friends! Just because two men spend time in a locked cell with a curtain drawn doesn't mean they're gay! Gay men can't play football!

by Anonymousreply 476May 10, 2017 4:05 PM

There were no documented infractions since October 2016 when Hernandez was found to have locked himself in the cell with another inmate, something not permitted under prison guidelines because it “disrupts the normal operation of the facility.”

by Anonymousreply 477May 10, 2017 4:09 PM

r477 Aww does that mean when things got serious with Kyle he stopped being a thug? Man that's got to warm your heart. Who knew a coked out wigger would be the one to straighten him out.

by Anonymousreply 478May 10, 2017 4:15 PM

People need to stop shitting on Kyle. Before the meth and the white trash tats he was hot. I might be wrong on this but there isn't meth in prison and his lawyer said he's been taking steps to getting clean while in prison.

Aaron didn't fuck with fuglies.

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by Anonymousreply 479May 10, 2017 4:28 PM

Nice little body on him to. And according to his lawyer, he worked out with Aaron often and Hernandez kept his size in prison and had the knowledge of NFL training regimens so Kyle is likely a twunk by now.

Look at that back.

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by Anonymousreply 480May 10, 2017 4:30 PM

R479 He really does look like a future hair-dresser there. I want him to sort my eyebrows out!

by Anonymousreply 481May 10, 2017 5:28 PM

[quote]I might be wrong on this but there isn't meth in prison...

Oh, my sides!

by Anonymousreply 482May 10, 2017 5:32 PM

I wonder how hard Aaron had to try to bed this kid. Probably not much since he was who he was but this guy just didn't want to be lonely.

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by Anonymousreply 483May 10, 2017 5:36 PM

Hm, do you even consider the idea that Kyle wasn't willing participant in this whole story? It's possible. It was prison, after all. Maybe Aaron didn't rape-rape him, but he could've force him. I am genuinely bothered that media exposed Kyle that way. I mean, it's very high profile story. And Internet remembers.

by Anonymousreply 484May 10, 2017 5:42 PM

R483

So he is not gay?

by Anonymousreply 485May 10, 2017 5:47 PM

r484 Take this for what its worth... one of those comments from a blog post written about Kyle. The blog is a popular Massachusetts blog:

"Anyone who knows Kyle knows that he is loving the fame right now. He’s getting exactly what he wants, LOL. Kid never had any parenting or adult supervision growing up which is why he is the way he is."

This would coincide with Kyle wanting to speak to the media on his own and not through his lawyer. Another comment comes from someone who said Kyle was so far one on coke that he wasn't surprised that Kyle became Aaron's butt boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 486May 10, 2017 5:47 PM

r485 Probably not and if he was, probably in the closet. Definitely wasn't openly gay in the environment that he was. Maybe prison turned him out? Maybe he sold his ass for protection or drugs? Maybe deep conversations about his and Aaron's tattoos made him fall in love? Maybe he was "so far gone" on coke he couldn't care less about Aaron entering him?

There is more to sexuality then just "gay" and "straight" and I'm a firm believer in that. He also seemed to have inner anger with women.

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by Anonymousreply 487May 10, 2017 5:52 PM

r484 85% sure Kyle representatives released his own name to daily mail.

by Anonymousreply 488May 10, 2017 5:55 PM

r484 Don't think Aaron raped or forced him into anything he didn't wanna do. Aaron cared about him enough to send letters to the guy's family members--from his dad to his stepsisters and stepbrothers. The lawyer said those letters spoke of the nature/extent of their relationship.

Also if it were not consensual, why would mental health officials in the prison feel the need to personally break the news to Kyle and put him on suicide watch immediately after? Surely if your rapist kills himself, you should be overjoyed, not pose as a threat to yourself.

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by Anonymousreply 490May 10, 2017 6:17 PM

More photos of Kyle in the link below. I don't understand how people can say he is ugly.

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by Anonymousreply 491May 10, 2017 6:19 PM

GAY for Stay

by Anonymousreply 492May 10, 2017 6:28 PM

Why do you think Kyle has the nickname "Pure"? 🤔

by Anonymousreply 493May 10, 2017 9:26 PM

r493 His butthole was never touched until Aaron got his hands on him?

by Anonymousreply 494May 10, 2017 9:48 PM

According to his lawyer, Pure and Aaron were in a relationship before prison. Sounds like he's going to shop a tell-all somewhere down the road.

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by Anonymousreply 495May 10, 2017 10:04 PM

Aaron's gf is scheduled to be interviewed by Dr. Phil next week.

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by Anonymousreply 496May 10, 2017 10:33 PM

I think we decided that Kyle's nickname "Pure" was derived from the level of heroin he sold

by Anonymousreply 497May 10, 2017 11:51 PM

Can you guys imagine how Drake must drooling over the news that Aaron dug his music so much?

Drake LOVES the jocks like no other, and the idea of Aubrey's lil Canuck hole getting pounded by AH's Latino meat is hot as hell.

by Anonymousreply 498May 10, 2017 11:55 PM

Here's the trailer for Dr Phil's show. Looks like she might be as evasive as she was in court.

I hope he's going to question her about how much she knew and how much she helped to cover up AH's crimes.

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by Anonymousreply 499May 11, 2017 12:39 AM

Speaking of Aaron's taste for Rihanna's music, I can just picture Ryan dedicating the steamy Rihanna ballad KISS IT BETTER to him. It's almost like it's "their song"....

(Lyrics)

[italic]Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Been waiting on that sunshine

Boy, I think I need that back

Can't do it like that

No one else gon' get it like that

So why argue? You yell, but you take me back

Who cares when it feels like crack?

Boy you know that you always do it right

Man, fuck your pride, just take it on back, boy

Take it on back boy, take it back all night

Just take it on back, take it on back

Mmm, do what you gotta do, keep me up all night

Hurting vibe, man, and it hurts inside when I look you

in your eye

[Chorus:]

What are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Oh, what are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Been waiting on that sunshine

Boy, I think I need that back

Can't do it like that

No one else gonna get it like that

So why are you, you here? Here to take me back?

Who cares when it feels like crack?

Boy, you know that you always do it right

Man, fuck your pride, just take it on back, boy

Take it on back boy, take it back all night

Just take it on back, take it on back

Mmm, do what you gotta do, keep me up all night

Hurting vibe, man, and it hurts inside when I look you

in your eye

[Chorus:]

What are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Oh, what are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

I've been waiting up all night

Baby, tell me what's wrong

Gonna make it right

Make it all night long

I've been waiting up all night

Baby, tell me what's wrong

Go on and make it right

Make it all night long

Man, fuck your pride, just take it on back

Just take it on back bae, take it back all night

Just take it on back, take it on back

Mmm, do what you gotta do, keep me up all night

Hurting vibe, and it hurts inside when I look you in

your eye

[Chorus:]

What are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Oh, what are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

What are you willing to do?

Oh, tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Oh, what are you willing to do?

Oh (tell me, baby), tell me what you're willing to do?

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby

Kiss it, kiss it better, baby[/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 500May 11, 2017 12:57 AM

yeah, she's not gonna say much really, AH is gonna be straight in her story. She didn't know anything...that's her story. Ryan and AH were just friends, very good friends.

Even if Phil asks her about the motive, whether he killed Odin coz he was gonna out him, she would reply, I don't know. what else is she gonna say? predictable.

by Anonymousreply 501May 11, 2017 1:04 AM

This bitch is as morally bankrupt as AH was. Dr. Pill is a sensationalist piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 502May 11, 2017 2:02 AM

The fellas over at turtleboysports analysis of Kyles lawyers press conference plus their take on AH and Kyles prison romance 😂

[quote] The fact that he was promising this nudnik $50K watches that he had no intention of giving him, so that Kyle Kennedy would allow Hernandez to treat him like he was a lump of dough in a pizza shop, is so Aaron Hernandez it hurts. The only thing that hurts more was Kyle Kennedy’s glory hole. The long and short of it is that Aaron Hernandez knew he was gonna kill himself the whole time. He wanted to get his rocks off while he was in the can, so he pretended to be in love with the prettiest face he could find. He promised him a bunch of shit, and even humored his family and friends. But at the end of the day Hernandez was smart enough not to put any of these promises in writing, because obviously he’s not gonna give some wigtacular chud from Uxbridge a $50,000 watch when he’s got a four year old daughter that could probably use the money more than him. Unfortunately for Pure White Chocolate, he thought the relationship was genuine, and now him and his lawyer wanna cash in on it. Good luck with that.

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by Anonymousreply 503May 11, 2017 2:05 AM

Hold on now, Dr. Phil's interview with her will air in two parts over two days, so she's going to have to do more than just sit there and say, "I cannot recall" or Dr. Phil won't air it.

Most people are not following the twists and turns as we've been on these threads. I think the general public will be spellbound by the revelations. I've already bookmarked Media Takeout, Wendy Wiliams, etc.

by Anonymousreply 504May 11, 2017 2:08 AM

R500 Yes I see what you mean! 🔥🔥🔥

I thought the lyrics to Rihanna's "Unfaithful" (it was on his last play list) were quite interesting too. Especially this bit:

🎶Our love, his trust I might as well take a gun and put it to his head Get it over with I don't wanna do this Anymore...

And at the end of the chorus:

🎶I don't wanna be a murderer

I mean, what a song to "chill out" to after what he did! 😨

It won't let me paste the full lyrics so I've provided a link if anyone's bored enough🙃

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by Anonymousreply 505May 11, 2017 2:38 AM

R500 Yes I see what you mean! 🔥🔥🔥

I thought the lyrics to Rihanna's "Unfaithful" (it was on his last play list) were quite interesting too. Especially this bit:

🎶Our love, his trust I might as well take a gun and put it to his head Get it over with I don't wanna do this Anymore...

And at the end of the chorus:

🎶I don't wanna be a murderer

I mean, what a song to "chill out" to after what he did! 😨

It won't let me paste the full lyrics so I've provided a link if anyone's bored enough🙃

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by Anonymousreply 506May 11, 2017 2:38 AM

R500 Yes I see what you mean! 🔥🔥🔥

I thought the lyrics to Rihanna's "Unfaithful" (it was on his last play list) were quite interesting too. Especially this bit:

🎶Our love, his trust I might as well take a gun and put it to his head Get it over with I don't wanna do this Anymore...

And at the end of the chorus:

🎶I don't wanna be a murderer

I mean, what a song to "chill out" to after what he did! 😨

It won't let me paste the full lyrics so I've provided a link if anyone's bored enough🙃

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by Anonymousreply 507May 11, 2017 2:38 AM

R500 Yes I see what you mean! 🔥🔥🔥

I thought the lyrics to Rihanna's "Unfaithful" (it was on his last play list) were quite interesting too. Especially this bit:

🎶Our love, his trust I might as well take a gun and put it to his head Get it over with I don't wanna do this Anymore...

And at the end of the chorus:

🎶I don't wanna be a murderer

I mean, what a song to "chill out" to after what he did! 😨

It won't let me paste the full lyrics so I've provided a link if anyone's bored enough🙃

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by Anonymousreply 508May 11, 2017 2:38 AM

who is the creep stalking kyle's old posts and pics? get a life, hon.

by Anonymousreply 509May 11, 2017 2:46 AM

Gurrrrrrl I can't wait for this Dr Phil interview. If she wants that money, she better say he was struggling with his sexuality. If she doesn't the court will use this interview to deny her those COINS.

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by Anonymousreply 510May 11, 2017 2:57 AM

Did Ryan know about Kyle?

by Anonymousreply 511May 11, 2017 3:14 AM

I do apologise for the multiple posts. I don't know how that happened😦

by Anonymousreply 512May 11, 2017 3:14 AM

R511 Ry's busy getting married so I guess we'll never know. I'm hoping Kyle's gonna be so livid about that watch that he'll gives us the full details!

by Anonymousreply 513May 11, 2017 3:24 AM

R503. It's interesting that they put a suicidal prisoner in a cell with nothing to do. Surely that will make them worse?

I do like their description of Jose Baez - a lying gutterslug with a briefcase 😂

by Anonymousreply 514May 11, 2017 3:34 AM

I hope Ryan and AH's prison conversations are used as evidence so we can see what they talked about so much.

As time goes on, Im feeling that Ryan was the real puppet master here. He is the only one that AH could not manipulate. Ryan could've gotten inside his AH's head by seducing him, using his secrets against him. Encouraging him to do bad things to lose his fortune, and then redirect the money to himself. It is always the cute innocuous ones that you have to examine more closely.

The timing of his wedding too, had to make sure AH killed himself so he could get that payout....

by Anonymousreply 515May 11, 2017 3:55 AM

Do they give out lube and condoms in prison?

by Anonymousreply 516May 11, 2017 4:00 AM

r515 how could he use his secret against him, when Ryan himself is closeted AF? They were both hiding the same secret.

Things were going well, Ryan was now his "Personal Assistant" meaning they got to spend more time together physically instead of talking on the phone all day. Aaron had to fuck it all up with his thirst for killing. That's why I think seeing Ryan in court and not being able to touch him, probably triggered his suicide.

by Anonymousreply 517May 11, 2017 4:25 AM

R499, told ya. She will not reveal anything gay related.

by Anonymousreply 518May 11, 2017 5:34 AM

Its fucking two hours long. If shes going to fucking deny and talk about nothing how much fucking conversation can be had.

by Anonymousreply 519May 11, 2017 5:43 AM

Another interesting question. Why all NFL Aarons are gay? I think we should make the list of NFL Aarons and investigate their closets.

by Anonymousreply 520May 11, 2017 5:48 AM

Guards didn't want Aaron and Kyle to share a cell because of their size difference. They were afraid Aaron might get rough with him.

by Anonymousreply 521May 11, 2017 5:48 AM

Some of you are treading on very light ground with your unfounded accusations about Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 522May 11, 2017 5:50 AM

r522 whats your theory?

by Anonymousreply 523May 11, 2017 5:56 AM

@r523 just press ignore on that poster, he/she is the same one who posted @r509 and apparently doesn't think Kyle is relevant to this thread either.

by Anonymousreply 524May 11, 2017 8:32 AM

Why are we calling that woman his fiancée? If they were going to get married they would have done it years ago.

by Anonymousreply 525May 11, 2017 9:42 AM

R503 I disagree with their opinion that AH "knew he was going to kill himself the whole time". He asked to be put in a cell with Kyle. Why would he have done that if he had planned to take his own life. He wouldn't have been able to with a cellmate. If it had been allowed then he would still be alive.

by Anonymousreply 526May 11, 2017 11:54 AM

R521 And Aaron had no problem killing people he was close to!

by Anonymousreply 527May 11, 2017 12:12 PM

r525 I've noticed Blacks and Hispanics use the term "fiancée" to mean a live-in boyfriend or girlfriend or the baby's daddy.

by Anonymousreply 528May 11, 2017 12:12 PM

Except Ryan and his fiancee aren't black or hispanic R528 🙄

by Anonymousreply 529May 11, 2017 2:13 PM

Shayanna isn't Aaron's fiancee because they aint never getting married.

He's dead. He killed himself.

by Anonymousreply 530May 11, 2017 3:52 PM

r529 White trash does it too.

by Anonymousreply 531May 11, 2017 3:57 PM

R516 This article is about the distribution or non distribution of condoms in US jails. It's dated 2015, so obviously there might have been some changes since then.

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by Anonymousreply 532May 11, 2017 5:17 PM

This article is about the same issue but in UK prisons. It's accompanied with a video of a prisoner telling about his experiences. It's short but insightful. It's dated 2013, but I doubt anything's changed much.

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by Anonymousreply 533May 11, 2017 5:34 PM

So who were the "boys" he wanted his fiancée to take care of? The names Kyle and Ryan could fit into those little blanked out spaces.

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by Anonymousreply 534May 11, 2017 8:55 PM

I think they are his god sons, Tanya's kids who he promised to set up a college fund for. He was very close to his cousin and her family, and even has his godsons name tattooed on his chest. That's my best guess anyway.

by Anonymousreply 535May 11, 2017 9:13 PM

My reply was for r534 btw.

by Anonymousreply 536May 11, 2017 9:19 PM

You are probably right, r536.

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by Anonymousreply 538May 12, 2017 1:37 PM

The guys whole life was about putting on an act, for the NFL, his college trainers, his teammates, his fiancée, saying one thing and doing the opposite was his thing it seems.

by Anonymousreply 539May 12, 2017 1:43 PM

She doesn't want him to be bi or gay so bad so she thinks it's a "murder." They say the same on LSA.

by Anonymousreply 540May 12, 2017 1:49 PM

I was reading another board discussing this case and they make a really good point.

Motive was never officially established in the Odin Lloyd case because the evidence was so alarming. But one of the first theories of motive for why Aaron killed Odin was because Odin knew or threatened to rat out Aaron for the double murders in 2012. Well since he was cleared of the double murder case, the forum was suggesting that Aaron's lawyers via appeal could use the double murder trial that cleared Hernandez that there was no motive for Aaron to kill Odin because Aaron was found not guilty on the double murder case.

If that argument had worked they could have changed the charge to a lesser sentence than a murder sentence.

I' m sure if that is the case Shayanna, Aaron and Baez discussed it. Which to me is why Shayanna and Baez seem to think that Aaron didn't actually kill himself.

by Anonymousreply 541May 12, 2017 5:21 PM

R541, that doesn't strike me as credible, because AH's acquittal on the double murder charges could not have been grounds for appealing the Odin verdict. No evidence of the double murder was submitted to the Odin murder jury; the prosecution never established a motive because it didn't have to. It never so much as suggested that the double murder played a role in Odin's death. There's no evidence in the record, therefore, to use as the basis of an appeal.

Plus, there are the suicide notes. Were those forged? And who would want to kill AH anyway? He'd stopped being such an awful prisoner; he'd been well-behaved, apparently, since October 2016.

Really, it looks like the only person with a motive to kill AH was Shayanna, so she could try to get the Patriots to pay up once the Odin convicted was vacated.

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by Anonymousreply 543May 12, 2017 6:05 PM

r541 I don't think the legal system works that way. You don't get a lesser sentence simply because the prosecution couldn't establish a motive--esp not when there's alarming evidence that he killed a guy in cold-blood.

by Anonymousreply 544May 12, 2017 6:06 PM

The only person worth listening to is Kyle and Ryan. Shayanna turned her back on her grieving sister and told blatant lies on the stand for Aaron. There's no way she'd be admitting his bisexuality. Didn't she even try to block the rest of the suicide letters from being made public? She's irrelevant in my opinion.

Kyle can't possibly still be on suicide watch. The dick can't be that good!

by Anonymousreply 545May 12, 2017 6:12 PM

If motive was not used in the conviction, its lack can't be used for appeal.

by Anonymousreply 546May 12, 2017 6:13 PM

R545, maybe Kyle will be so pissed off by Shayanna's possible lies that it makes him want to tell his story? So maybe we can get his side of it soon?

by Anonymousreply 547May 12, 2017 6:19 PM

R541 They really don't believe he was murdered. Baez and Shayanna are just on a money hunt. Don't forget, Shayanna is a big liar. She's told many and should really be in prison herself. And we all know what creep Baez is.

by Anonymousreply 548May 12, 2017 6:25 PM

R545 I think it'll work in his favour if she does deny it. There'll be nothing for him to "reveal" otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 549May 12, 2017 7:23 PM

He can reveal the details of their torrid prison romance.

by Anonymousreply 550May 12, 2017 7:35 PM

I can't imagine prison life would get any easier for Kennedy if he reveals a romance/gay relationship with AH, it would probably get worse. We would have to wait a year until spring 2018 when he is released to get a proper interview. But by then everyone will have moved on.

by Anonymousreply 551May 12, 2017 7:44 PM

r551 Why do you say that? According to his lawyer, there was a 3rd guy who was tight with Aaron and Kyle and apparently was a golden glove boxer. Kyle might just be a hoe for people with status. And if these guys have been fucking around for close to a year plus and he's been fine I'm sure he'll be okay for another year or so.

by Anonymousreply 552May 12, 2017 8:07 PM

I bet there are nude Aaron photos floating around somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 553May 12, 2017 9:46 PM

Some interesting excerpts from phonecalls made after AH's arrest, between Tanya's Singleton and Ernest Wallace and Shayanna and AH. Couldn't help having a little chuckle at AH's comment about Singleton losing weight in prison!

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by Anonymousreply 554May 13, 2017 12:41 AM

More excerpts from a phone call, between AH and his mum, made 4 days before AH was found guilty of killing Odin. Prosecutors wanted to use it in the double murder trial. Sad stuff, really.

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by Anonymousreply 555May 13, 2017 1:02 AM

Does Shayanna think that the entire death scene and letters were a product of the prison officials at Shirley?

That's every bit as hard to believe as the truthers' theories concerning 9/11. IF he had been found simply dead in his cell with no letters and without all the theatrical stigmata and writing on the forehead I might have been open to the idea of murder.

by Anonymousreply 556May 13, 2017 7:01 AM

[quote]So who were the "boys" he wanted his fiancée to take care of? The names Kyle and Ryan could fit into those little blanked out spaces.

Oh, JESUS.

by Anonymousreply 557May 13, 2017 9:28 AM

I think she is still processing the grief and hasn't accepted the fact that he killed himself. She needs more time...

It's quite obvious he took his own life. He wrote in his own handwriting, that he told her what was coming and he mentioned savage garden, only AH would know that, even if someone were the fake a note, they wouldn't know to put that in.

by Anonymousreply 558May 13, 2017 9:39 AM

We are probably going to need a new thread. I'm going to assume that a lot of conversation will be had over the interview.

by Anonymousreply 559May 13, 2017 5:32 PM

[quote]I am strangely torn. I'm finding some kind of nobility and honor in Aaron's suicide because he took care of his baby momma. His death vacats the murder charges and leaves his estate less likely to be taken away by a civil suit. He did one thing to take care of his family. However, he murdered someone, they deserve justic. So I'm torn.

He didn't take care of her. The civil suit will go on. He killed Odin Lloyd. His own attorney admitted he was there when Lloyd was murdered. Shayana isn't getting any money. Aaron already settled with the Patriots (he needed money for his attorney's fees for both trials). He probably spent more than $2 million on both trials. You evidently aren't that familiar with civil trials for wrongful death. The person being sued almost always loses. OJ Simpson lost his civil trial despite being found not guilty. Civil trials have a much lower burden for proving guilt. It will be up to Hernandez's attorney's to prove his innocence. There's too damned much evidence against him. In civil cases the plaintiff wins if the preponderance of the evidence favors the plaintiff. For example, if the jury believes that there is more than a 50% probability that the defendant was negligent in causing the plaintiff's injury, the plaintiff wins. This is a very low standard, compared to criminal law.

And just a little FYI, Aaron didn't murder one guy. He murdered at least 3 guys. He was ALWAYS trash. His parents and his family are also trash. The two guys who helped him murder Odin Lloyd were longtime friends of his piece of shit Aunt Tanya (whatever the fuck her name is). The one guy had lived in her house for a very long time. Aaron wasn't noble. He was a piece of shit and the world is a much better place without him. And yes, he was a sociopath. He was able to put on a mask and be who ever he had to be at work and with the media, but when he wasn't at work and was on his own, he was a thug/wannabe gangbanger

by Anonymousreply 560May 13, 2017 5:56 PM

I'm not getting my hopes up about the interview. This is still an ongoing legal mess. It will probably be just recounting of things we already know, and many commercials. Lots of video her and her daughter for the mom audience that Im sure makes up a lot of his viewership. Trying to make everyone feel sorry for her being a single mom, like she wasnt the one who decided to sleep with him, have his baby, and get the money. I will be shocked if she brings up Ryan or admits anything about him having sexual relationships with guys.

I'd rather watch IYANLA, who is a lawyer by trade, take this hussy down for her lies and make her tell the truth that she only turned a blind eye to AH's male concubine (Ryan), thug sidepieces, and subsequent murders because she wanted the money.

by Anonymousreply 561May 13, 2017 6:06 PM

Sheriff says Hernandez was master manipulator.

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by Anonymousreply 562May 13, 2017 6:22 PM

[quote]I'm not getting my hopes up about the interview.

The only thing worth looking forward to is the drama of the cliffhanger at the end of Monday's episode.

Dr Phil: There have been rumors about Aaron's.......[italic]sexuality.[/italic] Is there any truth to those rumors?

Cut to Shayanna, who breaks down sobbing.

Voiceover: Tune in on Tuesday to hear the shocking revelation that turned Shayanna's life upside-down!!

Tuesday comes around and she actually answers the question with a very matter-of-fact, "Anyone claiming that Aaron was gay is a LIAR. Aaron was not gay."

by Anonymousreply 563May 13, 2017 6:33 PM

That is exactly what's gonna happen, R563.

by Anonymousreply 564May 13, 2017 6:36 PM

r563 has it down pat. someone should tweet that reply to Dr. Phil so he already knows we won't be tuning in for that foolishness.

by Anonymousreply 565May 13, 2017 6:49 PM

I'm not even that interested in the sexuality angle as much as I want to hear what this woman has to say. We already have a good grasp of what happened, and we already know how much of a liar this woman is from her testimonies.

I just want to know what story Aaron wanted her to tell. Maybe she'll admit that he probably killed Odin (no chance) I hope that old fart fucking asks her specifically about that. Oh and about savage garden. His letter to her should be at least 3 segments long.

by Anonymousreply 566May 13, 2017 7:22 PM

Regarding the suicide note, was that all he wrote to her or were there other parts? With all that time to think in prison you'd think he'd have a lot more say.

by Anonymousreply 567May 13, 2017 7:50 PM

R567 Imagine if Kyle's letter was longer. She's definitely seen it.

by Anonymousreply 568May 13, 2017 8:00 PM

R567, we don't know if there was more to the letter to Shayanna. I believe that the copy we've seen doesn't show his signature.

by Anonymousreply 569May 13, 2017 8:00 PM

R568 That's if there is a letter to Kyle. But if that letter was to his lawyers, why don't they just release a little bit of it? That would soon shut Kyle's team up.

by Anonymousreply 570May 13, 2017 8:15 PM

R569 Good point about the signature. Going by the length of some of the letters he wrote to complete strangers, there has to be more to it.

by Anonymousreply 571May 13, 2017 8:34 PM

R559 I'll be here even though I won't be able to watch it 😣

by Anonymousreply 572May 13, 2017 8:47 PM

I wish we were able to add a sub-thread to this one, I'd love a "Let's be excerpts from Aaron's letter to Kyle" thread !

by Anonymousreply 573May 13, 2017 10:14 PM

[quote]I'm not even that interested in the sexuality angle as much as I want to hear what this woman has to say

Gurl please. I am ONLY watching to see if she spills some more tea about his sexuality. Other than that, she's nice enough, but she is a liar. And her story is not that unique, unless she admits he was bisexual. She is just like thousands of other baby mamas out there who's dude is locked up. The her man just happens to be an ex-NFL star.

by Anonymousreply 574May 13, 2017 11:13 PM

R554 I laughed when I read that awhile ago too, but it's family so you have to be honest, right? What's with her taste in men? Aunt Tanya's first husband was a drug dealer and he's still close with AH's mother. There's a pic of AH's mother and Jeffrey "Meathead" Cummings holding hands at AH's funeral. Why was he even there? Aunt Tanya's second husband was a drug dealer too, and she's raising 2 kids in that household. Did she ever work? AH didn't seem to mind that he was surrounded by these people who never seem to do anything. Okay, drug dealing is a type of work I guess, but come on, other than Ryan, everyone's trashy.

by Anonymousreply 575May 13, 2017 11:40 PM

[quote]I bet there are nude Aaron photos floating around somewhere.

Here's one!

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by Anonymousreply 576May 14, 2017 12:56 AM

[quote] I think they are his god sons, Tanya's kids who he promised to set up a college fund for. He was very close to his cousin and her family, and even has his godsons name tattooed on his chest. That's my best guess anyway.

It's not. He lied to his cousin. He said he had accounts already set up for them. He never set up any account for her kids. He lied to her so she would keep her mouth shut. She knows the truth about him and all three murders. She hid the vehicle that he used to commit the murders of those two men in her garage for over a year. Aaron's co defendants (carlos ortiz, and ernest wallace) in the Odin Lloyd trial were very good friends with her Her family considered Wallace to be a member of their family. Ernest Wallace lived with tanya. She (tanya) also helped Ernest Wallace flee the state (in hopes of evading arrest for murder) and actually went with him all the way to Georgia (despite suffering from stage 4 cancer). Wallace has kept his mouth shut. He could have sung like a canary and gotten off scot free, but he kept his mouth shut and is sitting in jail. He's definitely getting money (if there is any money - which I doubt). Carlos Ortiz pled guilty and talked to the police about helping Aaron with the murder (so he's not getting any money).

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by Anonymousreply 577May 14, 2017 1:42 AM

@r577 I still think the two blacked out names in his suicide note are that of his god sons, Eddie and Jano.

by Anonymousreply 578May 14, 2017 2:06 AM

To the person upthread who thinks that there will be no money left for Shay and her daughter, regardless of what happens with the Pats and the money in question which my be owed to AH, is it possible that just as OJ was able to live well after the massive civil judgment against him, that some of Aaron's NFL money may be shielded for his daughter? If he does end up getting some of the signing bonus money which is owed to him, I hope that the little one will at least have a trust set up for her college years. Aaron may have very poor judgment, but he was never described as being stupid by any of the writers who've interviewed him or D.J. I have to think that for him to tell Shay, "you're rich," he likely had researched what was coming to them in the event of his death. And I do not believe that Baez is planning on soaking Shay for his counsel thus far. The man is a spotlight lover, and this case has once again shown him to be the lawyer who can get the most guilty appearing defendant off. I imagine he is getting his expenses paid and little else. Or, if he enjoys the milk chocolate, perhaps he will extract his pay from Shay much as he did with Casey Anthony.

by Anonymousreply 579May 14, 2017 9:55 AM

R579, I think I'm the poster you're referring to. I think Baez is not a problem. The Pouncey brothers—twins who both play in the NFL—are rumored to have paid a lot of AH’s legal expenses. The Pounceys were friends with AH in Florida, and stayed friends with him after his arrest, unlike everyone else in the NFL. (They were also out with him when he bought that $50,000 watch that we’ve heard so much about). They might wind up helping Shayanna out, too.

I also think that the families of AH’s victims will probably settle with AH’s estate in a manner that leaves something left for AH’s daughter. Those families probably do not have the resources to fight for years with someone the way the Goldmans did with O.J.

by Anonymousreply 580May 14, 2017 12:54 PM

[quote] To the person upthread who thinks that there will be no money left for Shay and her daughter, regardless of what happens with the Pats and the money in question which my be owed to AH, is it possible that just as OJ was able to live well after the massive civil judgment against him, that some of Aaron's NFL money may be shielded for his daughter?

Aaron already settled with the Patriots. He needed money for his attorneys fees. They settled in a grievance hearing in 2014. He may have some pension money coming to his estate, but I don't know the laws of Massachusetts regarding pensions and civil suits. In Florida (where OJ lived) other parties are not able to access a person's pension fund to pay a civil judgement. Massachusetts may have different laws. Any money he has in personal accounts (without his daughter's name on them) is open to collected in a civil suit. There is no shielding any portions of it (unless he set up a trust fund for her). One thing you can probably be sure of is that Aaron didn't give two shits about his cousin's sons. Once again I'll remind you that he LIED TO HIS COUSIN about setting up trust funds for her kids. It was ALL A LIE so that she would keep his secrets regarding the three murders he committed. He did not want her testifying against him. Aaron hernandez only cared about aaron hernandez

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by Anonymousreply 581May 14, 2017 3:50 PM

[quote] Aaron may have very poor judgment, but he was never described as being stupid by any of the writers who've interviewed him or D.J

You are hilarious. No one should use the word smart in the same sentence as aaron hernandez. He was fucking stupid. His last murder was a textbook case for how to get caught by the police. He left so MUCH evidence. His DNA on gum and a shell casing from the murder. Cell phone records. Leaving the victim less than a mile from his house. Surveillance footage of him before and after the murder holding a gun in his house. Surveillance footage of his car arriving at the crime scene. And a whole bunch of other stuff. The only thing he was smart about was getting his slave shayana to dispose of the murder weapons and other evidence.

by Anonymousreply 582May 14, 2017 3:56 PM

[quote] One thing you can probably be sure of is that Aaron didn't give two shits about his cousin's sons.

We get it, you DESPERATELY want the two blacked out names to be his gay lovers.

by Anonymousreply 583May 14, 2017 3:59 PM

Actually R582 Aaron probably isn't even the one who thought of disposing of the evidence, that was probably all Shayanna's doing, in order to protect her own future. Aaron really was very stupid, without her he would have been in prison or dead many years earlier.

by Anonymousreply 584May 14, 2017 6:24 PM

Stupid or not, by the time he killed Odin Aaron had already shot five other people and suffered no consequences. You could hardly blame him for failing to properly plan Odin's murder. By that time, he probably believed he could, and should, get away with anything.

by Anonymousreply 585May 14, 2017 7:13 PM

R577 I don't think it was just about getting her to keep her mouth shut. He probably couldn't set up trust funds for Tanya's kids because there wasn't enough money to spread around. I think he thought he would figure something out later. Yes, I know, there's really no way around or out of his situation, but I don't think it was just about getting her to keep her mouth shut.

R579 I read elsewhere that the Pounceys have said they would take care of AH's daughter. He's really lucky to have them because most, and who could blame them, avoided AH.

by Anonymousreply 586May 14, 2017 8:57 PM

Here is the 3rd thread

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by Anonymousreply 587May 14, 2017 10:42 PM

I can't believe I was right lol.

by Anonymousreply 588May 17, 2017 6:10 AM
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by Anonymousreply 589August 19, 2018 1:05 PM

R589 Where is the letter to his prison lover?

by Anonymousreply 590August 19, 2018 3:19 PM

Is this the current thread? When is Kyle being released? Did he lie about the whole thing?

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