The White Princess

I thought the show was called The White Queen and the lead actress looks different than actress in OP

I liked the cast from the Elizabeth Woodville and Edward series better. Max Irons was wonderful as Edward.

I hated the White Queen and its indulgence that Elizabeth Woodville was a witch

[quote] I hated the White Queen and its indulgence that Elizabeth Woodville was a witch

That's why it's referred to as "historical fiction".

I'm really loving this and I was bored by The White Queen (though I loved Max Irons and his meaty thighs).

The old Melusina ancestress story has been around for hundreds of years, R3. These people didn't invent it.

Her mother really was accused of being a witch. Acquitted.

My point is that there was already enough drama and scandal when Edward married Elizabeth Woodville, without bringing up something like witchcraft which couldn't really be proven

Philippa Gregory is just so dire, I can't bring myself to watch.

Any of you queens still around?

Just watched the first episode and it's lovely

I know I'm late but I was waiting for it to become free on Amazon. I gave up on that clearly. As good as the season one opening

For those of you bitching about the witchcraft angle- it's an ongoing theme in the Philippa Gregory books that this series is based on.

R1, they are 2 different series.

'The White Princess' is not as good as 'The White Queen', and for some reason they reduced the amount of male nudity.

In the first production, almost every guy showed his ass, which was great.

But as OP said, there is a good performance from Michelle Fairley.

Don’t we live in luxury today, compared with even the most Noble houses of England then? Plus, TV can’t communicate the damp and cold. And the stink.

And Jeremy Irons is sizzling. He’s 6’2” btw.

Max Irons, R13.

Yes, he is 6'2.

The real Edward IV was very tall, so Max was the right height for the part.

And he was very generous about showing his ass several times in "The White Queen".

In episode 2 of the White Queen, King Henry has no lines. I feel for the actor.

Wish King Henry didn't look so rodent like.

More Max ass:

Thank you r17. Where is that from?

R18, it is from one of the early episodes of "The White Queen".

Episode 1 or 2.

Max Irons shows off his ample ass in the series "Condor" .

How do you know she's a witch?

Episode 2 was definitely weaker than the first one. But still very good. Jacqueta fit the wise mother archetype better than Elizabeth does I think

R22, original, or ersatz reproduction?

What a hoot of very non-historical drama that trailer is.

BTW Margaret of Beaufort was all of 13 when the pedo Tudor got her pregnant with Henry VII. It is wildly absurd that she is being presented as someone who appears to be 30 - not 13 years - older than Henry.

They do spellwork in almost every episode, r21.

R20, thanks for posting that. Max has a great ass.

And he hit the genetic lottery because he's a lot hotter than his father.

So how is Jodie Comer in this? She was glorious in Killing Eve.

R22, Janet McTeer was excellent as Jacquetta.

Probably the best performance in the series.

I think she received a Golden Globe nom or Emmy nom.

She's okay r 27. No blowing me away but not bad either.

It didn’t occur to me that there were witches on the show. I just thought it was all superstitious nonsense.

Jacquetta and Elizabeth were accused of witchcraft -- it's in the historical accounts, and Philippa Gregory puts it in her novels.

I can see why people thought Elizabeth was a witch. Edward did a lot of damage to his reign marrying her randomly instead of a much more practical match like with a Lancastrian or a foreign princess. And he generally was not thought to be a fool. So it would seem bizarre

R32, there were some good things about their marriage though, and they stayed together for his whole reign.

I'm kind of over dowager Elizabeth being trapped in the abbey. The last season had far more give and take between both sides. In this season, Margaret just seems to completely overwhelm them

I think Margaret is most likely responsible for killing the two princes in the tower. Even though so many think it was Richard III.

I know this show hints that the older Prince survived. But they did fairly recently find the bones of two boys under some staircase or something? The Windsors refused comment.

Why should the Windsors feel bad? They had nothing to do with that.

Well, 36, [italic]if[/italic] they survived and [italic]if[/italic] they produced heirs, that would call into question the legitimacy of the royal line from the Tudors onwards. Not that there is anything that could be done about it.

The Tudors were illegitimate to begin with. Owen Tudor was the bastard child of a foreign queen and welsh noble. To this day it boggles my mind people seriously entertained his claim

Don't forget that whore Anne Boleyn!

R25, the correct response is "She turned me into a newt."

Jacob Collins-Levy in "The White Princess":

Flatter ass than Max Irons?