The joy of intestinal parasites

A steady diet of drinking apple cider vinegar mixed with water will cure anything. It is the nastiest tasting stuff, but it does the job.

The antibiotic resistence is rising, and visiting the doctor feels like the early days of AIDS - they try one antibiotic and then another, and another, all of them decimating one's flora and churning the bowels until hopefully the right one is killed.

Hey OP! - I sympathise!

I love eating arse - it's ny weakness I'm afraid - and I've been pretty sexually active over the years - and touch wood! - have never had a standard STI - but I have had Giardia a few times - and recently, blastocystitis.

It took a long time for me to get over it - a few months of chronic gut problems and the runs. Even after they got rid of it - with about three rounds of antibiotics - I then had problems with my gut flora and fauna from the antibiotics and ended up not absorbing some nutrients well. Became chronically low in iron, and also needed B12 supplements.

I've also had threadworms a few times over the years and now always keep the meds for it on hand (wasn't there a weird gut parasite/worm troll here on DL a couple of years or more back?)

You really don't hear very much about the sexually transmitted gut issues - should get more attention. Out of memory though, back in the seventies and eighties, around the time HIV/AIDS started to hit the scene - there was also a term like 'Gay Gut Syndrome' to describe these kind of infections that the medical people were seeing more of in urban areas - but think the term was dropped as it was considered a bit discriminatory and judgey - and then later eclipsed by other events...?

Where did you contract the parasites, OP?

R3 again - meant blastocystis - iPad has a mind of its own :(

R4, on the corner of Hollywood and Vine.

Well, I hope you gave the worm gifter at H & V a piece of your mind!

You would get better treatment going to a hospital in a third world. US hospitals are bad at tropical medicine. There is a reason peace corps volunteers get a full treatments worth of malaria proxalisis before going home. More volunteers were dying of malaria upon their return home to the US then abroad. American doctors lack of knowledge coupled with arrogance meant they would ignore infected volunteers claims they had malaria and they lacked knowledge about how to test for it .

First of OP your farts must be horrible. The sulfer byproduct is horrid. Secondly Guiardia is a parasite not a bacteria. Anti biotics are not going to do shit. The condition usually passes on its own but if treatment is necessary you may want to to find a tropical medicine specialist.. You may need to travel to miami or houston to see one.

Thirdly what did you drink to get this? River water?

[quote]back in the seventies and eighties, around the time HIV/AIDS started to hit the scene - there was also a term like 'Gay Gut Syndrome'

Thanks R3. As I recall it was Gay Bowel Syndrome, and yes, The Plague completely wiped it from the scene for a while as people stayed home hugging their T cells!

I got it, I'm fairly certain, from rimming an irresistable number. (Apparently for some people blasto has no symptoms, so they can become Typhoid Marys.) My doctor read that you can't get it from accidently imbibing clorinated pool water, but I read online in some med doc that you can.

Thanks to the person who suggested apple cider vinegar, but I'm leery of putting myself through that torture. I've already tried garlic oil, oregano oil, and saccharomyces boulardii without result.

[quote]Out of memory though, back in the seventies and eighties, around the time HIV/AIDS started to hit the scene - there was also a term like 'Gay Gut Syndrome' to describe these kind of infections that the medical people were seeing more of in urban areas

I remember hearing around the time Reagan was shot that two men I knew were having this kind of sickness. "Amoebas," I was told. My friend who told me called them "CGDs" (Chic Gay Diseases). And not long thereafter, we started hearing about KS and PCP in gay men, drug addicts, and Haitians. Both of the friends who had the CGDs would go on to die from this new illness before it had the name "AIDS."

OP is Elton John.

Indeed, in the early 80's, at least in NYC, every other gay man seemed to have 'amoebas.' In my experience, those guys also soon developed ARC and then went on to AIDS and were soon gone. I suspect that outbreak of 'amoebas' was all connected to poorly functioning immune systems.

Are you at least losing weight, OP? Swim suit weather is almost here. That cannot be denied.

Is this a time traveler thread?

[quote]I have had Giardia a few times - and recently, blastocystitis.

Is licking strangers' asses really worth it?

I filled my enema bag from the Ganges. Never again.

Once was enough R15. You'll have it for life.

Three weeks ago, my vet (who's been heavily involved with all kinds of side research projects with the USDA and Tuskegee U vet school) told me quiet as it's kept, internal and external parasites have developed serious resistance to "just about everything we can throw at them." That it's especially serious with cats because 1) their human caretakers interact closely with their waste materials--particularly feces and vomit; 2) cats are *exquisitely* sensitive to chemical substances, so simply upping dosages on anti-parasitics or increasing application frequency is not an option.

My vet also said in response to human assault on both their environment and ours, the DNA of fleas, ticks, mosquitoes, and parasitic worms and bacteria is changing at a much quicker rate than even a dozen years ago, so they're acquiring total or partial immunity to drugs and sprayed chemicals faster than the drug and agrichemical companies can keep up. For example, a "simple" case of heavy feline or canine tapeworm infestation that ten years ago took 2-4 weeks to eradicate now takes one month minimum before reaching zero eggs in intestine or shedded segments in feces.

Only half-joking, I asked my vet if we're gonna have to go back to DDT and Chlordane. He said it already had been restarted on the qt in Argentina and Brazil, because rainforest decimation and huge cattle herds have created a hellstorm of fleas, biting flies, and cattle ticks on the range. And guess from where the US imports most of its foreign beef?

My awesome vet says between the climate deniers running both our government and Big Bidness, and Big Pharma maximizing profit at the cost of research, and the federal government slashing research and grants funding, we are in for a holy shitstorm of diseases and infestations that only a decade ago we'd thought eradicated or easily managed.

R17 here. OP/R9, clove oil, thyme oil, and food-grade diatomaceous earth are much better antihelminthics than oregano oil. Just be sure to buy it from a reputable source, since the main parasite-nuking ingredients, eugenol and terpenol, are found in lower concentration in the lower quality oils.

Buy from well-established companies that regularly submit their oils to independent labs for mass spec testing. Eden's Gardens, Mountain Rose Herbs, doTERRA, Young Living (though the latter two are MLMs run by high-level Mormons and their distributors can be quite cultlike about their EO products) are great sources for quality essential oils.

Fancy Italian restaurant restaurant gave me salmonella. Horrible 3 weeks and two courses of strong drugs. Lost 15 lbs. and did not need to. Scared to dine out for quite awhile.

I haven't rimmed in years but used to love it. So that is dangerous even with very clean asses?

I got Campylobacteriosis from a trip to Mexico over the New Year holiday.

Raw pumpkin seeds and pineapple are good. I'd also recommend ordering Humaworm capsules.

[quote]Humaworm capsules

Thank HaShem she got another job. Funds were getting kind of low.

[quote]very clean asses

No such thing.

Another blasto sufferer here, just last year. The doctor claimed "this sort of thing doesn't make you sick," even though I was obviously ill.

I did a lot of research. The best I found is linked below. The Centre in Australia from which that protocol came has walled itself off from the desperate public. Here's how I handled it.

I ordered the nitazoxanide and secnidazole from a reputable Indian pharmacy (they did not have furazolidone, almost nobody does). I drove to a border town for the Dialgin, although I could have probably found that online as well.

Furazolidone is nearly impossible to find anywhere in the world these days. I had to settle for a combination drug called Dialgin, which is a mix of methylhomatropine (an antispasmodic), diiodohydroxyquinoline (a luminal amoebacide), activated charcoal, and 50 mg furazolidone per tablet. There is another Dialgin sold in Eastern Europe and Russia that is an NSAID - this is not the same drug.

The dosing was 400 mg secnidazole three times daily, nitazoxanide 500 mg twice daily, and Dialgin 1 tab 3 (or even 4)x/day - all for 10 days.

You will take lots of pills. You won't like it. It cost about $150. It did work.

[quote]What intestinal bugs have you had, and how did you get rid of them?

WHY do people keep asking me this?

[quote] Thirdly what did you drink to get this? River water?

Aren't you a sweet little Frau?

"River water"!

Tv show is called monsters inside me.

As a child my sister had some worms that are only suppose to live in Central America but she had them here in the United States, when she was an adult she had to have her colon removed. It made me wonder...

Most recently, I accidentally gave myself mold poisoning. I thought I had just gotten some stomach flu, so I kept drinking water from my Zero Water pitcher to stay hydrated. Ironically it was the water filter in the pitcher itself that was making me sick. I had moved recently, and left the pitcher in storage for a couple of months, before unpacking it and starting to use it again. Apparently, if you use these filters, but then stop using them for some period of time, the insides of the filter can become moldy. It was like having severe food poisoning for over 2 weeks. I couldn't even make it to the bathroom, I was throwing up violently and having diarrhea like every 15 minutes.

Ok. We've talked about OP's intestinal parasites. MY TURN!!!

Am I the only one who wonders what the year 2013 has to do with any of this?

For all you apple cider crazies, you do realize there is a semi-toxic level where it can such potassium out of your body and cause osteoporosis? It also does a wonderful job of stripping enamel off of teeth. Most serious is people who turn hypoglycemic quickly.

For me it was France (twice), Michigan, and Tenneesse (thrice).

My doctor said that when you have very little flora (whether you were born or it was caused by an illness, or caused by taking medicine) you are more likely to fall ill with food poisoning and all the other bacteria.

Medicine is the number one cause (at leas to Americans) as to why flora decreases, plus with age is another factor.

Now remember that preservatives and pesticides in our foods also wrecked havoc in our intestinal health. This is why Americans often fall ill when they go outside of the country. Because as a nation, we actually have pretty low defenses that are most likely stripped by our own foods.

Fermented foods and drinks are a great source to restore your flora.

I drink milk Kefir everyday and I don't remember the last time I went abroad and fell ill. Kombucha is also a great source for restoring intestinal health and getting rid of all the plastic and glass in our bodies. Also, Reishi mushroom tea is equally effective.

This lady explains why Milk Kefir can help you with your intestinal health and how is done. Apparently both the Bible and the Tora cite it too.

Kombucha

Reishi Mashroom Tea

Tuesday night is spaghetti night.

I think zero flora is preferable to having to down vile mushroom tea! There was a crazy health nut in our office who drank it. There was mould in the jar and he kept downing it. It gives me the shudders just to recall it.

But I do think a kind of small silent health crisis is going on. The fact that Sydney clinic is overwhelmed is evidence of it. I discussed their protocol with my doctor and he was hesitant about it, calling it the trend du jour with no published scientific papers. He prefers to do a step by step process of trying out different single antbiotics first given the upset they are to the system, and because some people naturally overcome blastocystis in time. But I think people are desperate. I'm getting that way. It's been weeks now.

Like some of you, I don't have the stomach for kombucha. But I'm okay with natural sauerkraut, kefir and yogurt. Another thing that helped me a decade ago when I was under the weather was a creature called "effective microorganisms." Look it up. But I also get good results from the use of animal probiotics. I take the one below, eating about a 5mm dollop of paste every other day. a $7 tube lasts for months. It has no flavor and is very convenient.

R3 here -

>> I have had Giardia a few times - and recently, blastocystis.

Asks R14: Is licking strangers' asses really worth it?

As I said R14 - I love eating arse (and playing with it - and fucking it!) - and find it almost irresistible.

I'm mid fifties now - and been doing it for nearly half my life - and seem to have been sick about roughly once every ten years. And as I said - in that time I haven't contracted any other STIs. So for me - well - I know there's a risk - but the risk benefit analysis hasn't stopped me from doing it yet. It may well do so if the infections occur more frequently. nothing is set in stone. will just have to see how I go and how external conditions influence matters...

Apple cider vinegar seems to be touted as a cure all for everything lately - still not convinced it can do all the many things that've been attributed to it - sounds like a laundry list of stuff not unlike those of patent quack medicines from Victorian times!

Read somewhere that papaya/paw paw seeds are also used by indigenous populations in the tropics as an anti-parasitic remedy as well - but not quite sure how many of 'em you're supposed to swallow...more research required! (live sub tropical here - so plenty of papaya trees around the place!)

Gee - some say eating a bit of shit (by rimming) is dangerous, and it could be, if the guy has parasites. Then others say eating a bit of shit is the cure for all sorts of ailments, for people who don't have good gut flora.

Ya can't win. So you might as well rim.

Yes, the infectious diseases doctor mentioned the new use of fecal supplementation in restoring gut flora. I think I'd like to have my own DIY choice of where it came from!

Is Miss Elton Johns latest much ballyhooed infection from rimming a hot South American guy recommended by one of the two Andys?

Is Lady Elton dead yet?

How do you get a condition like the patient in R36? And what are the symptoms?

[quote]Is licking strangers' asses really worth it?

Does it really matter if you know the person?

Use woodworm

Clearly, one must never rim a stranger in the tropics.

disease troll/middle-aged stalker woman obssessed with ex-ex/AIKC

How effective are the kits you can buy at the health food stores? I have a Renew Life ParaGone 15 day kit, that I plan to start next Sunday. Aside from taking the products, an extract of black walnut hulls, clove bud, marshmallow root (?), Orange Peel, and wormwood leaf/stem, and then some capsules of more leaves and stems, it also instructs me to avoid most of my current common foods/drinks, mainly bread and coffee, anything sweet. Lots of water should be consumed.

A Google search (flukes and parasites in our bodies), and a lesson in all the critters that live in our bodies, the majority being detrimental, makes me want to get rid of as many as possible, and I'm hoping this herb and spices approach is effective, and not just some snake oil.

how do you get rid of the snake that's coiled in your heart?

"Kombucha is also a great source for restoring intestinal health and getting rid of all the plastic and glass in our bodies."

How does it do that?

Raw garlic will kill those hoop germans!

One would have thought Michael /Erna that after the thread where your photos were shared, you might have taken some time out to think about yourself. But I guess when one is lonely, semi-psychotic, and aching for affirmation, that's not going to happen. But your posts are uncontributive and desperately unfunny. If you could try and consider that for a while, I'm sure everyone here would appreciate it.

Now, let us return to other parasites...

Glass in our bodies? Kombucha?

Bump

Can't you just eat papaya?

Kombucha has not yet been scientifically proven to be beneficial for your health.

Sorry, papaya seeds.

Don't rim anyone anymore!

OP we told you not to put that in your mouth!

Know a schizo loser who moved to DR after being deemed disability mentally impaired and he's always fighting intestinal bugs. Don't sit on my couch, skank.

DR = Dominican Republic?

I hate it when you people make me guess.

Dimming is not fir people in real life. They do it in porn, but they also do industrial sized quantities of drugs in the parn industry, too. SO STOP IT WITH THIS DIRTY, DIRTY BUSINESS.

Hmmm

What are the symptoms?

Drink some bleach. That should kill the parasite.

R63 are you a straight woman who doesn't understand dirty and primal sex between men (because you're too much of a big ol' female) or are you a "ladylike" gay man who is too much of a lady to understand dirty and primal sex between men (because you're too much of a big ol' female) ?

Do you have poor anal hygiene yourself and little imagination, so the idea that others can keep things clean as a whistle is beyond you, and the idea of anyone doing anything at all "back there" grosses you out?