Body of country's first female Muslim judge found in Hudson River

what the Hell!

[quote]She was the first African-American woman to serve on New York's top court.

Yet the media felt it was more relevant to highlight that she was the first Muslim rather than first African-American. Any opportunity to "sell" their fetish.

She was found in Brooklyn. Could have been an assassination.

R2 -- the news article I read about her referred to her as the first Muslim American woman to serve as a judge (article implied anywhere in the US). That is probably more noteworthy.

R4 America has a long, troubled history with African-Americans, and the media takes every opportunity to mention social advances. Highlighting that she is Muslim has more to do with the media's agenda than "noteworthy".

She was [italic]New York's[/italic] first black woman to be a judge at this level, she was [italic]America's[/italic] first Muslim woman to be a judge at this level. As r4 said it is basic common sense that a nation-wide credential is more noteworthy.

And that was TheHill's reporting, the New York Times reporting on it does not mention that til further down into the article. In spite of what you are told the "mainstream media" isn't one monolithic entity.

Very odd. Possibly suicide.

R2: oh honey. The only person here with a "Muslim fetish" is you.

I'll point out that in New York, The Court of Appeals is the state's very highest court, which most states call their Supreme Court. She was the equivalent of a state Supreme Court Justice.

And she wasn't found near Brooklyn. She was found in the Hudson River near 132nd Street opposite Harlem in upper Manhattan, where she lived

Sounds like a suicide. How sad if so. Just as she could have had that fabulous pension for her retirement years.

R8 Oh honey. You desperately need to look up the word "fetish".

[quote]In spite of what you are told the "mainstream media" isn't one monolithic entity.

No? Google the story. Every single medium in English in which the story appears has the same almost verbatim headline "First Female Muslim Judge Found Dead in Hudson River". The only two that don't are the New York Post and NY Daily News.

Really r12?

.....

...Really?

I could almost forgive your mistake, if the New York Times headline had not been commented on and linked in my post which you are replying to. How the fuck did you possibly miss it? Your hatred of Muslims is embarrassing you dear.

where was the husband during time of death? Dong Dong

Hatred? Only in your muddled logic R13.

Judge Abdus-Salaam wrote the majority decision in a recent landmark NY case, Matter of Brooke S.B., which greatly expanded the rights of gay parents to petition for custody or visitation of their children. Before this case, a gay parent in NY was restricted unless they were the biological parent or had formally adopted the child.

[quote][R8] Oh honey. You desperately need to look up the word "fetish".

Um, okay.

[quote]1. an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.

[quote]2. any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.

[quote]3. Psychology. any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.

So we're both misusing the term, since islam can't be remotely defined as a physical object.

R2 could more accurately be described as having an erotic fixation centering on an obsessive hatred of Muslims. Something that his therapist could address in his next session.

My bad.

If there's room & time on DL while some posters continue to squabble among themselves, I'd like to know whether she committed suicide or was murdered.

The autopsy's being done today. I hope the Medical Examiner's preliminary report can answer some of these questions.

R3 is obviously a shit-stirring flyover moron who didn't even bother reading the first sentence at the article.

What R18 said.

Husband will receive her pension and other benefits.

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Police are leaning toward suicide, but these days nothing would surprise me. I'm not saying she would have necessarily been targeted for her race or religion, but maybe someone had a grudge against her for one of her decisions. She just got married last year. How does Islam feel about suicides?

If I were black, female, and Muslim, I'd kill myself too.

Why don't you just go ahead and do that anyway, R25?

If I was a bored troll who never moved out of my Mom's house I'd want to kill myself, but yet here you still are r25.

Even in a thread about the loss of a progressive Muslim who was unabashedly pro-gay rights and with an anti-poverty activist background, the bigots still can't stop with the bullshit.

If you really believe Islam is regressive and needs reform, this woman should be heralded for her career and the ease with which she reconciled it with her religious beliefs. That would be the BEST way to combat fundamentalism. But that's not really the goal, is it?

Oh dear she married a grifter pastor.

Ok, so we have a possibly shady husband which adds another potential angle. Is he the only one claiming she was suffering from depression?

[quote]Neighbor and friend, Deborah Audate, told the New York Daily News that the couple maintained separate residences, but spent time together on weekends. Jacobs stopped by his dead wife's Harlem brownstone Wednesday evening, accompanied by detectives.

Why did they bother getting married if they didn't even live together?

Black women simply don't kill themselves. nuff said.

"Yet the media felt it was more relevant to highlight that she was the first Muslim rather than first African-American. Any opportunity to "sell" their fetish. "

The "Daily Briefing" short article I read this morning on the NYT website emphasized African-American. Didn't read any extended articles about the case though. Seemed quick to rule it a suicide, no? Obviously, it could be - I read her mother died and her brother committed suicide, so maybe she was in a really bad place. But, again, quick call.

Something very strange about the whole scenario.

This sounds like an old "Law and Order" episode.

Is the husband hot. He's single ya know.

Both her mother and her brother committed suicide per the NYT, r32.

And I concur with the poster who calls out the horrific bigots on this thread and across this site. This woman was Muslim AND undoubtedly progressive. Take your hatred and choke on it.

[quote]If you really believe Islam is regressive and needs reform, this woman should be heralded for her career and the ease with which she reconciled it with her religious beliefs. That would be the BEST way to combat fundamentalism.

"This woman" lived in a Western society with freedom, diversity and choice. "This woman" adjudicated US law, not her personal beliefs. "This woman" is not indicative of 1.7 billion Muslims living from the Atlantic to the Arafura Sea, where freedom, diversity, and choice are non-existent. Pointing this out is not "hatred" or "bigotry" but discussing the reality of Islam. Which is anathema to R36.

Talk about missing the point.

'"This woman" lived in a Western society with freedom, diversity and choice.... "This woman" is not indicative of 1.7 billion Muslims living from the Atlantic to the Arafura Sea, where freedom, diversity, and choice are non-existent.'

What, R37, does that have to do with bitching about news media pointing out that the judge was in fact Muslim? Or saying she was killed--in NY--for going outside without her burka? Or saying anyone who was a woman, Black and Muslim should want to kill themselves even though we're talking about a highly successful judge with an enviable career?

None of that is about "discussing the reality of Islam."

Calling the Datalounge Detective Squad!!!

Seriously, did this woman commit suicide, or did her husband do her in, or was it someone who didn't like some decision or belief of hers? Judges are in a position to make a LOT of enemies, and the marriage sounds very odd. Sure, when two professionals of that age marry they're already set in their ways and established in separate interests, but not even living together?

Grifter pastor husband did it for sure, Guaranteed. Next we'll be hearing about the $2 million life insurance policy he took out on her.

[quote]What, [R37], does that have to do with bitching about news media pointing out that the judge was in fact Muslim?

Because the death of an American judge becomes world-wide news, carried as headlines from San Francisco to Sydney because she was Muslim. If she was Sikh or Jain or Druze or Parsi, the story would have remained very much local and unremarkable.

[quote]She just got married last year.

Oh shit, the hubby did it for insurance money and her pension.

Omg.

More details:

According to the NY Times article linked by R44, she said that she was not Muslim. It also describes her husband as an Episcopal pastor, which makes him sound mainstream rather than a "grifter" (like TV evangelists, etc.).

R41, clueless.

"If you really believe Islam is regressive and needs reform, this woman should be heralded for her career and the ease with which she reconciled it with her religious beliefs. That would be the BEST way to combat fundamentalism."

She appparently was not a Muslim,

The two most important questions have yet to be asked:

1. What was on her iPod? and,

2. Can we have her stuff?

Who cares if she was Muslim or not? Why do the faggot regressives on this board need to bring their rancid bigotry on every thread? Have some respect for this woman or get the fuck off my site.

R46 Clueless

Why is the death of a local New York judge newsworthy in Sydney and New Dehli? Hint: Starts with M. Another hint: Starts with F.

FF for R49 for his repeated use of "fag" and "faggot" in this and other threads. "Regressive?" Look in the mirror, cupcake.

Nope, you look in the mirror, fag r51. I don't need this site polluted by your racism. If I knew where you lived I'd kill you on the spot, fag.

R52 Gosh, I'd hesitate to accuse anyone while using the pejorative "fag".

R50, you're getting all bent out of shape because a judge who was found dead floating in a river and who was also one of the first Black and Muslim women in the US to reach such a prominent position got some brief coverage in a few international papers? They pick up shocking and noteworthy articles from the AP all the time, idiot. Do you think they would have noticed if she had died peacefully in her sleep?

Those same papers picked up the school shooting in San Bernadino. Also a "local" story. Do you not have the imagination to see why that one piqued their interest also?

Uh no, R54. San Bernardino and Orlando received world-wide coverage due to the sheer horror of the story/numbers of murdered. That's hardly the same as a local judge found dead in a river.

Would not be surprised if it turns out hubby's on the DL.

^^ Yup

Gay-face for days.

Was she floating in the Hudson with the other garbage?

R58 = Another flyover piece of shit.

She wasn't Muslim.

Let's reiterate for the illiterate deplorables

[bold] Her name led to confusion about whether or not she was Muslim. Gary Spencer, a spokesman for the Court of Appeals, said she had told him that she was not. [/bold]

Got it?

Yep,it was the husband. Probably so he could be with his secret boyfriend full time.

If it was suicide, I can't imagine choosing what she did.

Oh I dunno, sounds ok to me

Datalounge Detective Squad, I'm very disappointed into you. Instead of digging into the husband's life and finding a secret boyfriend and a mountain of debt, or interesting new suspects, or a radical Muslim group that been threatening progressive Muslim women, you're arguing about the details of headlines!

R55, the San Bernadino school shooting is not the same as the San Bernadino workplace shooting. 3 people were killed in the school shooting which stemmed from domestic violence and yet it's made international headlines.

Yes, let's stay focused. Who's had the secretly gay, grifter husband?

One of the news accounts I read last night said she and husband kept separate residences in Harlem and only saw each other on weekends. Lavender marriage?

A friend who clerked for her said that not only was she not Muslim, but this so-called "grifter" guy was not her first husband. Her first husband was a member of the Nation of Islam (i.e., he was a black supremacist).

She really lived in Brooklyn?

Well, she's better of dead then.

*off

Her first husband was old as medusa and worked for the Kennedy administration today. If alive today he would be like 100.

No, r70, she did not live in Brooklyn. She and her husband both lived in Harlem -- in separate houses.

On the local evening news here in New York, they reported that police at this point think it most likely was suicide. No trauma to the body, death was by drowning, she had been telling close friends recently that she felt enormously stressed due to the demands of her job and other responsibilities. Her mother committed suicide in 2012 and her brother in 2014.

Medusa, R72? Or Methuselah?

I'm glad her name was Shelia and not Antwonisha.

He was her third husband. I heard she had a brownstone in Harlem and he lived in NJ

I think more married couples should live separately.

Why she marry the gay boy?

R66 San BernaRdino

R59 is apparently unfamiliar with the work of one Mr. Stephen Sondheim. (Hardly a "flyover piece of shit.")

R76, who you talking about, hun? Shelia?

No one's as queer as you, R80, that's for sure.

[quote]The two most important questions have yet to be asked: 1. What was on her iPod? and, 2. Can we have her stuff?

No, R48, you most certainly may NOT have my wife's stuff, it's mine! I worked hard to make her death look like a suicide, I deserve to get it all!

Wait, a NY Court of Appeal justice is not a local judge. That's the highest court in the state. Honestly. Have you NEVER watched Sam Waterston do an appeal on Law and Order?

I heard the same as R69.

Cops are now treating the death as suspicious. There was slight bruising on her neck but her eyes didn’t show the type of bleeding consistent with strangulation.

For the poster upthread who stated "black women don't commit suicide," Phyllis Hyman?

I am relieved to see that she was NOT a member of the NOI.

Please, black people just become athiest.

Fact is: Everyone admires a strong black woman. If it is suicide, it's a damned tragedy. She had it all.

Suicide My ass!!

My guess is the bruising on her neck came from a chain being snatched off then she was thrown in the river where she drowned.

If she was a muslim, she wouldn't have killed herself. which is most likely. They could easily cover up that there was no foul play with her body. and therefore easily suggest suicide. when she was in fact murdered. morons! thy don't know how to keep the people who work for them shut!

Wow! Here I was writing my comment thinking it happened today- only to realize the date said it was almost a week ago!! How the Fuck did I not hear about this!? Why did this not make international news (given that islam is a check in the media list?)

R93 Maybe because it showed that a muslim is a victim not the perpetrator. and a black victim too! which no one likes or cares to talk about nowadays.

FF for R51 for for being so haunted by a fucking word that they completely missed the original point of the poster. For real have some respect for this woman!

R36 cover ups over cover ups

Re-quoting R28 for being a sane DLer, a rarity these days. "Even in a thread about the loss of a progressive Muslim who was unabashedly pro-gay rights and with an anti-poverty activist background, the bigots still can't stop with the bullshit.

If you really believe Islam is regressive and needs reform, this woman should be heralded for her career and the ease with which she reconciled it with her religious beliefs. That would be the BEST way to combat fundamentalism. But that's not really the goal, is it?"

R93 As pointed out upthread, the original story made international news from Sydney to Dehli, from Montreal to Rio and everywhere in between. Google "First Female Muslim Judge" for details.

Re-Quoting R16 for its importance. Could the NOI have been after her for this? "Judge Abdus-Salaam wrote the majority decision in a recent landmark NY case, Matter of Brooke S.B., which greatly expanded the rights of gay parents to petition for custody or visitation of their children. Before this case, a gay parent in NY was restricted unless they were the biological parent or had formally adopted the child."

Aren't there better ways of suicide than drowning in the freezing disgusting Hudson?

R98 didn't make the news in both great european countries I was in last week. But surely if I google there'll be something, I'm talking about TV news.

R97 R99 are hell-bent on protecting their fetish. Even after it was pointed out that the judge was, in fact, NOT Muslim.

Funny, how none of the comments wished her peace. May you Rest in Blissful Peace you respectable judge. and may whoever did this to you be punished endlessly.

R102 where was it pointed out? also, I thought that user taught you not to use that word ' fetish' as it is wrong to be used that way.

R100 yes there are! which is possibly why it wasn't suicide in the first place.

R2 =R11 = R102 (any other comments?) = Everything is a fetish troll.

May she RIP

Fetish = fixation, obsession, compulsion, mania. Considering the number of posts you made to this thread R104 R106, the description is spot on.

Tragic end to a life of great distinction. Whether it was murder or suicide the agony must have been terrifying.

True R109

When the News don't give you any deserved attention, then know something is wrong. It's possible they're covering something up.

DA's Office still refusing to call it a suicide. Says it needs more details

Who said both her mother and brother died of suicide? R36 You are wrong, or read it wrong. "Cops initially described Abdus-Salaam’s death as a suspected suicide, in part because she had struggled with depression and both her mother and brother died earlier around Easter, sources said."

Alternative News

If she was a Muslim she was a good one and it's a tragedy we lost her. Big hugs lady.

It is a tragedy. smh! may she RIP

M for Murder

what a krazy thread!

R113 The NYT article linked above CLEARLY states that both her mother and brother committed suicide.

Are you saying that they are incorrect? If her new husband is behind this, I would assume that he felt that the family's history of depression and suicide would be a good cover for her death(assuming he did it.)

Sad

[quote] her mother and brother died earlier around Easter

= suicide?

Exactly R121 It says nothing about suicide

It DOES say suicide in the Times' story you dolt.

Could it have to do with her last appeal on the 4th? People v Anderson

Oops! wrong link!

Wonder where are the DL Sleuths

R126 it isn't a hot guy or a blond woman with 3 kids, so the fraus have not descended. They are on websleuths.

lol ^

OMG People!

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She lived in Albany and Harlem, while her husband lived in Newark.

That's 3 residences.

She lived in Albany and Harlem, while her husband lived in Newark.

That's 3 residences.

She lived in Albany and Harlem, while her husband lived in Newark.

That's 3 residences.

Something is up with your computer

I have to break it down to the dummies on DL like that.

break what down?

[quote] Why is the death of a local New York judge newsworthy in Sydney and New Dehli? Hint: Starts with M. Another hint: Starts with F.

Mother Fucker?

lol r135

According to local NYC NBC evening news yesterday:

There will be a memorial service next month at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine on the Upper West Side.

There is security video of her on the day she disappeared walking towards the river in the gym clothes she was found in.

Her death is officially considered "suspicious."

Police are not looking for a suspect but there are several people they want to talk to. They also want anyone who thinks they might know anything to come forward and talk to them.

R123 "But Judge Abdus-Salaam’s family said in a statement on Wednesday that her mother, who died in 2012 at the age of 92, did not commit suicide. The judge’s younger brother, the statement said, “lost his battle with terminal lung cancer” in 2014." - See! they DID NOT COMMIT SUICIDE!!

RIP

Told ya her family didn't commit suicide

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^ I know, I know, "it's" not "its."

R131 Take it up with the New York Times. I actually believed that they were a reputable source which fact checked their articles. They state outright that the mother and brother committed suicide.

I am happy to learn that they did not. Now I feel certain that she was killed.

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Right!

I served on a jury before her. She was brilliant, respectful and stood in appreciation of the jury at the end of the trial. May she rest in peace.

Who is going to order the little girls clits to be cut off now?