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Let's Talk about Wade Nichols, aka Dennis Parker - 1970s -1980s Porn Star, Recording Artist, and Soap Opera Actor

His life story would make an incredible movie. He was gay, but appeared in only one gay porn movie - "Boynapped," in 1975. After that, he became a leading man in straight porn films. He was a trained actor and singer who had some disco era fame with the songs "Like an Eagle" and "New York by Night." He then transitioned to mainstream work, where he starred in the "Edge of Night Soap Opera" for five years. He died of AIDS in 1985 at just 38 years of age.

He was hot and sexy in that 1970s blow-dried way.

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by Anonymousreply 322March 14, 2018 2:20 AM

He had a nice body!

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by Anonymousreply 1April 11, 2017 1:16 AM

F Y I

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by Anonymousreply 2April 11, 2017 1:18 AM

Here's a still from his single gay porn movie, "Boynapped." The guy on the left is Jamie Gillis, who was also a big straight porn star, but who was bisexual in his daily life. Gillis was almost exclusively in straight porn throughout his career.

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by Anonymousreply 3April 11, 2017 1:20 AM

Some more F Y I

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by Anonymousreply 4April 11, 2017 1:22 AM

Here he is on the mean streets of New York performing "Like an Eagle" in 1979:

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by Anonymousreply 5April 11, 2017 1:22 AM

A clip from his legitimate acting career in "The Edge of Night":

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by Anonymousreply 6April 11, 2017 1:25 AM

OP, what makes you think this guy was gay and not just bisexual/gay4pay?

by Anonymousreply 7April 11, 2017 1:28 AM

He was in a porn movie from 1979 called "Take Off," which was actually very good, and he was excellent in it. He played a kind of Dorian Gray character who never ages, starting in the 1920s and going through the 1970s. You get to see how his character changes throughout the decades, and he really did a great job in the movie.

Incidentally, this movie also has the first onscreen appearance of a young and cute Peter Scolari (in a non-sex role, unfortunately).

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by Anonymousreply 8April 11, 2017 1:30 AM

R7 In interviews with his co-stars and friends, they all confirmed that he was gay in his private life. He was actually Jacques Morali's lover for a while, which probably got him his record deal.

by Anonymousreply 9April 11, 2017 1:31 AM

OP he was in two gay films - the other being Manhole

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by Anonymousreply 10April 11, 2017 1:31 AM

R10 Manhole is a movie that seems to have literally disappeared - can't find it anywhere. That movie also featured DeVeren Bookwalter, who was a well-known stage actor and who also appeared in one of the Dirty Harry movies.

by Anonymousreply 11April 11, 2017 1:33 AM

Whose cock is he sucking in r10? Marc Stevens'?

by Anonymousreply 12April 11, 2017 1:33 AM

Eric Edwards, a well-known 1970s and 80s straight porn star, made a movie with him called "Love You," which was directed by John Derek (Bo's hubby). The movie features a nude wrestling match between Nichols and Edwards. In an interview, Edwards said he knew Nichols was gay, and Nichols was more nervous about doing the nude scene than Edwards was. Edwards said he pulled Nichols aside and said, "Let's just go for it," which they did. Edwards said Nichols never made a move on him and was a complete pro and that Edwards really respected him.

by Anonymousreply 13April 11, 2017 1:37 AM

He looked better without without the porn stache. A younger Dennis, pre-porn headshot.

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by Anonymousreply 14April 11, 2017 1:37 AM

He definitely looked better clean shaven. The pictures in R14 and R8 make him look especially handsome.

by Anonymousreply 15April 11, 2017 1:38 AM

Another younger Dennis, pre-porn headshot, probably a few years later than the one above.

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by Anonymousreply 16April 11, 2017 1:39 AM

R12 I don't think that's Marc Stevens, but there's a resemblance.

by Anonymousreply 17April 11, 2017 1:40 AM

R16 He's sexy as hell in that picture!

by Anonymousreply 18April 11, 2017 1:41 AM

Very appealing. I'll take with or without facial hair. Assuming he died from AIDS (?) from that news story above.

by Anonymousreply 19April 11, 2017 1:41 AM

As Dennis Posa in high school.

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by Anonymousreply 20April 11, 2017 1:43 AM

Some Edge of Night trivia

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by Anonymousreply 21April 11, 2017 1:44 AM

Another picture with the same guy from R10. That guy's definitely not Marc Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 22April 11, 2017 1:44 AM

Gorgeous when young didn't age very well. Seems like another extremely sensitive, and fairly complex individual. He was like the gay male equivalent of Dolly Sharpe (aka as the "the best friend Helen" from Deep Throat)

by Anonymousreply 23April 11, 2017 1:44 AM

Another picture with the same guy from R10. That guy's definitely not Marc Stevens.

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by Anonymousreply 24April 11, 2017 1:45 AM

R20 I'd have liked him in high school. I was always attracted to the sexy nerds.

by Anonymousreply 25April 11, 2017 1:46 AM

I'd love to know more about his life story. Apparently, the folks at the Rialto Report (an excellent website that covers the "golden age" of the adult industry) is working on a detailed piece about him and have located and interviewed his brother.

by Anonymousreply 26April 11, 2017 1:48 AM

Eldergays, you amaze me! I had read (briefly) about this, but this is like a documentary. Bless your obsessiveness!

by Anonymousreply 27April 11, 2017 1:49 AM

R19 He definitely had AIDS, but there are conflicting stories if he died from it or shot himself to prevent the inevitable agonizing death from it. He had said in an interview once that he collected antique guns so maybe the latter is true.

by Anonymousreply 28April 11, 2017 1:49 AM

R28 I think the suicide stories are just that - stories. I think one of his co-stars from Edge of Night said she visited him in the hospital when he was very ill and that he died in the hospital.

by Anonymousreply 29April 11, 2017 1:52 AM

He had to leave Edge of Night in early October 1984 due to his quickly declining health. He was losing a lot of weight and having terrible coughing spells. His last episode aired on October 18, 1984, just 12 days shy of his 5th anniversary of his first airdate (October 30, 1979) on the show.

by Anonymousreply 30April 11, 2017 1:55 AM

Huge cheek implants and a terrible ski-ramp nose job.

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by Anonymousreply 31April 11, 2017 1:56 AM

His album cover - very "Magnum P.I."

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by Anonymousreply 32April 11, 2017 1:56 AM

But a hot, hot fuckin' body.

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by Anonymousreply 33April 11, 2017 1:56 AM

Another version of "Like an Eagle," this time with gold lame! It is a catchy tune, though.

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by Anonymousreply 34April 11, 2017 1:58 AM

I seen a posting years ago from someone who knew him before he became famous and they said he had a nose job. Not sure about the cheek implants though.

by Anonymousreply 35April 11, 2017 2:00 AM

He's sexy as hell in this picture, although I do prefer the clean-shaven Nichols a little bit more.

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by Anonymousreply 36April 11, 2017 2:02 AM

R31 I don't think he had cheek implants; I think that's just lighting and makeup.

by Anonymousreply 37April 11, 2017 2:04 AM

OMG.

That song is like an aborted version of "More More More" with pornstache.

Hot.

by Anonymousreply 38April 11, 2017 2:05 AM

His first episode on Edge of Night. He appears right before the 8 minute mark.

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by Anonymousreply 39April 11, 2017 2:06 AM

His last episode of Edge of Night.

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by Anonymousreply 40April 11, 2017 2:06 AM

Love him with and without the stache!

by Anonymousreply 41April 11, 2017 2:06 AM

R39 Is that Frances Fisher in that clip with him?

by Anonymousreply 42April 11, 2017 2:16 AM

R42 Yes, that is her.

by Anonymousreply 43April 11, 2017 2:18 AM

R40 Boy, he looks thin and ill in that clip. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 44April 11, 2017 2:21 AM

DL fave Marcia Cross had her first scene on Edge of Night with Dennis. 12 minutes in this episode.

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by Anonymousreply 45April 11, 2017 2:25 AM

R45 Marcia Cross looks the same. She must have a great plastic surgeon! This was 1984, just a year before Wade Nichols died. He was looking pretty bad here.

by Anonymousreply 46April 11, 2017 2:33 AM

So 70s!

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by Anonymousreply 47April 11, 2017 2:41 AM

Dennis can be seen a few times in this Edge of Night blooper reel. At just after 12:30 in, he has trouble with some dialog and at just after 27:00 in, a scene where it's his characters first time in a disco.

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by Anonymousreply 48April 11, 2017 2:54 AM

R40. Lois Kibbee/Geraldine had a head that looked like a light bulb.

Joel Carothers also looked like he had started his decline.

I had forgotten Philip Casnoff was on EON back then.

by Anonymousreply 49April 11, 2017 2:57 AM

Some later headshots of Dennis, probably from the late 70s or early 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 50April 11, 2017 3:02 AM

Another

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by Anonymousreply 51April 11, 2017 3:03 AM

One more.

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by Anonymousreply 52April 11, 2017 3:03 AM

I wonder if he and Joel Carothers ever hooked up? Both gay, fond of wearing mustaches, on the same show and died 10 months apart.

by Anonymousreply 53April 11, 2017 3:09 AM

I wonder why he made the decision to do straight porn.

by Anonymousreply 54April 11, 2017 4:01 AM

Geez, all three actors in that scene at around the 13:00 mark with Kibbee would die of AIDS. EON was really hit hard by the plague.

by Anonymousreply 55April 11, 2017 4:06 AM

And Kibbee liked the snatch. So many gay Edge actors. Parker and Corothers must have hooked up alot.

by Anonymousreply 56April 11, 2017 4:15 AM

Stank sleeve. Nasty.

by Anonymousreply 57April 11, 2017 4:46 AM

Before the transmission of AIDS was more fully understood, Sharon Gabet was terrified that she might catch it from him.

by Anonymousreply 58April 11, 2017 4:49 AM

Gabet really was terrified, but has said it was born from ignorance and uncertainty. She was pregnant at the time, which compounded her fears.

by Anonymousreply 59April 11, 2017 5:03 AM

I'd rather talk about the other Wade.

Wade Neff

by Anonymousreply 60April 11, 2017 6:31 AM

r60 - Bless yer pea-pickin' heart dumplin'......

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by Anonymousreply 61April 11, 2017 6:43 AM

R52 He had that quintessential 1970s look. Incredibly beautiful eyes!

by Anonymousreply 62April 11, 2017 10:08 AM

R40 Poor guy looked so unwell in that clip. Look at him starting around the 16:10 mark. He looks like he's struggling to stand and walk. And when he comes back into the room to answer the phone, he leans on the chair. He must have been very weak.

by Anonymousreply 63April 11, 2017 10:25 AM

R54 It was probably more lucrative for him at the time. Plus, it was the "golden age," when there were scripts and a need for real actors in the films, so as a competent actor, he was probably in high demand.

by Anonymousreply 64April 11, 2017 11:11 AM

Here he is at work in one of the straight films - Raw Footage - in the first part of the movie.

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by Anonymousreply 65April 11, 2017 12:43 PM

He had a hot body. He was more fun to watch fucking guys than women, though.

by Anonymousreply 66April 11, 2017 1:12 PM

This is what I think is his best porn movie - "Take Off." It's actually well-written and acted, albeit a little corny, but it has a rather touching ending. He doesn't show up until the first 13 minutes of the movie. Check out hot Eric Edwards in his red Speedo, though! And a young, cute Peter Scolari shows up at about the 73:00 minute mark.

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by Anonymousreply 67April 11, 2017 1:18 PM

If Nichols hadn't gotten ill before his time, I imagine he'd be one of those distinguished looking older men today, with gray hair, but a still handsome face.

by Anonymousreply 68April 11, 2017 1:19 PM

I'd have swallowed his cum.

by Anonymousreply 69April 11, 2017 1:40 PM

I'd love to know more about his background - what kind of family he grew up in, what he was like in school, what led him into the porn world. His story is so fascinating.

by Anonymousreply 70April 11, 2017 1:44 PM

Here's his other disco song, "New York by Night." Not nearly as good as "Like an Eagle." It has a very "Village People" sound to it, which isn't surprising, since it was produced by Nichols' lover, Jacques Morali, who was also the mastermind behind the Village People.

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by Anonymousreply 71April 11, 2017 1:57 PM

More trivia

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by Anonymousreply 72April 11, 2017 1:59 PM

Great stuff, R72. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 73April 11, 2017 2:52 PM

Chris Jarrett now posts on Sharon Gabet's facebook page regularly. He is married and looks fine.

by Anonymousreply 74April 11, 2017 3:09 PM

An interview with Wade Nichols:

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by Anonymousreply 75April 12, 2017 3:34 AM

lots of paraphernalia here

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by Anonymousreply 76April 12, 2017 1:03 PM

Sharon G said that he used to get the shits on the set if Edge, right in the middle of a scene. They had to stop tape and change his clothes. Side effect of the aids.

by Anonymousreply 77April 12, 2017 1:26 PM

R76 Great stuff! Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 78April 12, 2017 1:51 PM

He looks like one of the Village People.

by Anonymousreply 79April 12, 2017 2:44 PM

Was Joel Crothers ill toward the end of EON? He looks pretty thin in some of those clips. He was beautiful in his Dark Shadows days.

by Anonymousreply 80April 12, 2017 2:49 PM

R80 If you want to see Joel Crothers ill, look at his last Santa Barbara scenes. He was obviously at deaths door. Very much like Dennis in his final Edge days. Ain't no way that those two didn't fuck each other.

by Anonymousreply 81April 12, 2017 3:15 PM

r75, from the article a producer/director type describes Wade as bisexual. Wade himself makes it clear that he only agreed to do gay porn because of the money, so your basic modern-day gay4pay guy. Why the consensus that this guy was gay?

by Anonymousreply 82April 13, 2017 1:04 AM

Anyone hook up with Mark Arnold. I hear he was gay. Didn't Robin Wright out him?

by Anonymousreply 83April 13, 2017 1:08 AM

Mark Arnold isn't gay. He's one of those artsy, not masculine, not feminine, but surprisingly straight, men out there.

by Anonymousreply 84April 13, 2017 1:12 AM

R82 A lot of those interviews were full of fictional information to appeal to certain audiences. His co-stars and friends all said he was gay, and his obituary says he was survived by his male partner.

by Anonymousreply 85April 13, 2017 1:14 AM

And someone he worked with at the show and knew him said he indeed committed suicide because at the time AIDS was a death sentence and he didn't want to continue to suffer. Why mention it in the obit? He was just speeding things up. Total understandable at the time.

by Anonymousreply 86April 13, 2017 1:18 AM

He looks like Jm J. Bullock.

by Anonymousreply 87April 13, 2017 1:25 AM

Where did you read about the person from the show who said Nichols committed suicide, R86? I read an interview with a co-star who said she visited him in the hospital and that he died in the hospital from AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 88April 13, 2017 1:27 AM

r85, I assumed the article was from a gay magazine. I was just surprised by the consensus he was gay when all the evidence points to him being bisexual, or even gay4pay as he describes himself.

by Anonymousreply 89April 13, 2017 1:46 AM

In some of his interviews posted from R76, he talks about once being interviewed by Geraldo Rivera. I'd love to be able to find that interview.

by Anonymousreply 90April 13, 2017 2:01 AM

When he was clearly ill, he had some pretty hot and heavy open kissing scenes with the actress who played Chris Egan. Same with Joel Crothers and Sandy Faison near the end of Edge. The media made such a big deal over the Rock Hudson/Linda Evans kiss, you have to wonder how many instances there were of actors with HIV or full blown AIDS who kissed female co-stars in daytime that fell under the radar. In 1983/1984, given what little was known about how the disease was and was not contracted, I can't imagine some of these women weren't terrified and didn't make a bee-line to a testing clinic as soon as they learned that their screen partner had the virus.

by Anonymousreply 91April 13, 2017 2:18 AM

Joel had the aids.

by Anonymousreply 92April 13, 2017 2:31 AM

[quote]I was just surprised by the consensus he was gay when all the evidence points to him being bisexual, or even gay4pay as he describes himself.

As someone mentioned above, "He was actually Jacques Morali's lover for a while"

by Anonymousreply 93April 13, 2017 3:09 AM

Joel Crothers did not die from AIDS. He died from lymphoma. Joel was straight, and was engaged to wed actress Veleka Gray at the time of his death. Just wanted to set the story straight, no pun intended.

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by Anonymousreply 94April 13, 2017 3:09 AM

FWIW, this is what his Wikipedia entry read:

Though Crothers was gay, he remained in the closet publicly and was engaged to actress Veleka Gray at the time of his death. They became close friends on the set when they played the lovers Julian Cannell and Vicki Paisley in Somerset. He chose to share his sexual orientation only with his friends and co-workers. Crothers died from AIDS-related lymphoma on November 6, 1985. His remains were cremated and scattered in Lake George, New York.

by Anonymousreply 95April 13, 2017 3:14 AM

OMG, the fraus have invaded this thread. Claiming that Dennis and Joel were both straight and neither had AIDS.

DL keeps sinking lower and lower and lower.

by Anonymousreply 96April 13, 2017 3:14 AM

He cruised me at a Gristedes on 37th and Third and even though he still looked sexy I'm sure glad I didn't go home with him.

by Anonymousreply 97April 13, 2017 3:33 AM

The young actor in the suit with the red tie in R43's clip was Philip Casnoff, who was Meryl Streep's boyfriend at Yale. He's still working but was expected to be a big star but it didn't happen for him.

by Anonymousreply 98April 13, 2017 3:44 AM

The We Love Soaps website offered a World AIDS Day tribute to the Edge actors who died of AIDS.

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by Anonymousreply 99April 13, 2017 8:04 AM

Oh, fuck the fuck off! The man was a HOMOSEXUAL!!!

Hot as fuck and masculine but he pinged from space.

The poor sumbitch dies of AIDS and there's still some old fucking fangirls insisting he was really in love with the snatch so there is eternal hope he might have dropped his glamorous hetero New York career to jet off to Peoria to whisk them from their humdrum frau-y lives and make sweet hetero love to their dry as toast vaginas.

No, bitch....no.

by Anonymousreply 100April 13, 2017 8:28 AM

I think R94 is a troll that posted on several soap threads insisting various known gay soap opera actors are straight. The trolls that infest those threads keep up their trolling fixations until they're beyond tired. And keep going, going....and going.

by Anonymousreply 101April 13, 2017 8:50 AM

[quote]Where did you read about the person from the show who said Nichols committed suicide, [R86]? I read an interview with a co-star who said she visited him in the hospital and that he died in the hospital from AIDS.

Who said I read it?

by Anonymousreply 102April 13, 2017 9:02 AM

Joel and Dennis gave each other blowjobs and had the anal sex.

by Anonymousreply 103April 13, 2017 9:09 AM

Dennis/Wade did try to play it straight for the press for his porn career since he starred in mostly straight porn. Being labeled bisexual wasn't a bad thing back then. Funny he picked Sharon Mitchell as the co-star he liked best and fooled around with off-camera, since she was very boyish and endogenous looking then.

Jamie Gillis, George Payne, Rick/Jim Cassidy, Michael Gaunt, and David Morris were straight leaning bisexuals who had good careers. Besides Wade, Jack Wrangler, Marc Stevens (although I think he had some trouble coming to terms with it), RJ Reynolds and Zebedy Colt were gay men who worked mostly in straight porn over gay porn back then. Several of the directors back then were gay too like Chuck Vincent, The Amero Brothers and John Christopher. You had the chance to work more, payed a little more, and act/direct in more ambitiously made movies.

by Anonymousreply 104April 13, 2017 9:16 AM

Here's the final episode of Edge of Night. It was taped in late November/early December 1984 and aired on Dec. 28, 1984.

Joel looks fit and healthy here. This was 11 months before he died. He's in several scenes, including at the 6:00 minute mark and the 12:30 minute mark.

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by Anonymousreply 105April 13, 2017 9:37 AM

R102 So who TOLD you Wade Nichols committed suicide?

by Anonymousreply 106April 13, 2017 11:59 AM

R104 Yep, I'm pretty sure that interview was mostly manufactured to promote Nichols' straight image. Sharon Mitchell seems to have been a good friend to a lot of people in the industry. So many of her co-stars speak well of her. Eric Edwards credits her with helping him get back on his feet and get work as a director after he had lost everything when his ex-wife burned down their house.

by Anonymousreply 107April 13, 2017 12:03 PM

Sharon Gabet did an interview a few years ago and talks about Wade Nichols (Dennis Parker) and Joel Crothers' s deaths. She also allude to her knowledge of Nichols' adult film career:

SHARON GABET: I loved them all so much. Joel was such a beautiful spirit (and gorgeous man). We were very close. He took me with him to his favorite haunts on a "night on the town" once and it was an outrageous night, I will tell you that! He called me from his hospital bed a few days before he passed to say good-bye. His spirits were high and he joked around as usual. So sad. Of course, I worked with Dennis quite a bit and he was also one with a fabulous sense of humor who always had great stories to tell about his "unique" theatrical background. Dennis was getting ill toward the end of the show and we all knew there was something terrible going on, but no one knew how serious it was then. He was losing weight and did not feel well. We made fun of him for being cranky - no one knew what AIDS was then. But he knew we loved him.

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by Anonymousreply 108April 13, 2017 12:11 PM

Dennis had the poopies in his pants those last few weeks that he was on Edge.

by Anonymousreply 109April 13, 2017 12:34 PM

More on Wade. This bio says that Nichols ended his adult film career after snagging his "Edge of Night" role, but that doesn't seem to be true. His work on "Edge" began in 1979, but he made one more adult movie after that - "Blonde Ambition," in 1981. He's also credited with the film "Blue Voodoo" in 1984, but that movie was actually made in the late 70s.

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by Anonymousreply 110April 13, 2017 1:27 PM

Disco-disco.com has this comment about Wade Nichols:

"He was constantly at all the Gay New York Clubs. And if you got head on 42nd street XXX theaters, through Glory Holes, Dennis might have been on the other side!! Yes, he was that and more. He did not, ever, use protection. So the rest is history."

by Anonymousreply 111April 13, 2017 1:36 PM

Well that's why he had the aids.

by Anonymousreply 112April 13, 2017 2:18 PM

R110 That's not correct. Blonde Ambition was shot in 1977 but wasn't finally released until 1981. Maraschino Cherry was probably the last porn movie he made. It was shot in the spring of 1978.

by Anonymousreply 113April 13, 2017 5:53 PM

[quote]Dennis was getting ill toward the end of the show and we all knew there was something terrible going on, but no one knew how serious it was then. He was losing weight and did not feel well. We made fun of him for being cranky - no one knew what AIDS was then. But he knew we loved him.

This contradicts other reports about Gabet from that time in which due to ignorance about how AIDS/HIV was transmitted and her pregnancy, she refused to kiss Parker on EON because she [bold]knew[/bold] that he had the illness.

by Anonymousreply 114April 14, 2017 12:11 AM

r114 Sharon Gabet (Raven) was paired with Larkin Malloy (Sky) by the time Edge ended in 1984, so she wouldn't have had any kissing scenes with Dennis Parker (Derek), who was paired Jennifer Taylor (Chris Egan). Raven's brief fling with Derek happened in 1980.

In 1984, the facts about HIV transmission were not widely known. Transmission via saliva from coughing or kissing was still uncertain. Transmission via sneezing was still uncertain. How long the virus could live outside the body was unknown. Some hospitals were turning away AIDS patients because they didn't know exactly how the virus was spread.

The Edge cast may have suspected Parker had that new disease that was killing gay men, but they couldn't be certain it was AIDS. All they knew for sure is that he was obviously sick. Many people don't want to be around sick people who are coughing, afraid of picking up their germs and consequently get a cold, the flu, or whatever. That's just human nature to want to avoid getting sick.

Pregnant women are notorious about wanting to protect their unborn babies from potential illnesses. Again, that's human nature. Look up the story of actress Gene Tierney who picked up German measles while pregnant from an infected, overzealous fan hugging her. Tierney subsequently gave birth to a deaf, mentally disabled baby as a result of that infection. That story may not be well known today, but it was commonly cited by pregnant woman for several decades (and it was also part of the plotline of the 1980 movie The Mirror Cracked starring Elizabeth Taylor, Angela Lansbury and Rock Hudson).

Sharon Gabet was pregnant with her first child in 1984 so she was naturally concerned about the baby's health. Any expectant mother working around someone who is obviously sick and coughing heavily day after day after day would be worried. And its clear by looking at r40's video that Parker was very sick by the time he filmed his last episode in late Sept/early Oct 1984.

Yes, it was would be homophobic by today's standards given the information we now. However, in 1984 given what little information was out there, her reaction was perfectly natural. No doubt, others in the cast were also concerned, but Gabet, being pregnant and the show's star, generated more buzz when she raised her concerns.

by Anonymousreply 115April 14, 2017 1:32 AM

Did Joel Crothers know he was poz when he was kissing actress Sandy Faison?

by Anonymousreply 116April 14, 2017 1:35 AM

Edge ended in 1984. The Elisa test for HIV wasn't developed until 1985.

Joel Crothers may have suspected he was HIV positive, but there was no way to verify it at the time until he started showing symptoms.

He appears healthy in the final episode of Edge that r105 posted. As noted, it was filmed 11 months before Crothers died.

by Anonymousreply 117April 14, 2017 1:50 AM

I had him in the 70s and it was one of those fantasies that should probably have gone unfulfilled.

by Anonymousreply 118April 14, 2017 1:52 AM

I get all of that, R115, and I clearly indicated that likely drivers for Gabet's reaction were ignorance and (understandably) wanting to protect her unborn child. I'm merely repeating what I've read more than once over the years about Gabet allegedly refusing to kiss Parker once it was known that he was ill. Perhaps those accounts were exaggerated or completely false. I was questioning how they were contradictory to statements that were attributed to her years later.

by Anonymousreply 119April 14, 2017 2:02 AM

r119, Again, Gabet wasn't paired with Parker on screen, so their characters would not have been kissing. There was no reason for her to refuse to kiss him since the script wouldn't have called for it.

At the time, I recall rumors that the pregnant Gabet was worried about working around him and picking up germs. I also recall a rumor that the reason he was written out of the show was because Gabet insisted on it. Whether those are true, I don't know, but looking at the video of his final episode at r40, it's clear he was very sick.

TPTB may have opted to write him out (with or without prompting from Gabet) to allow him some time to recover from his obvious illness. They clearly wanted to leave the door open to bring Derek back since no onscreen explanation was offered for his absence until the next to the last episode.

As for the changing story over the years, people grow and gain new insights, so their explanations for their behavior evolves over time. The various stories over the years likely reflect that changing insights/understanding.

I sincerely doubt you'll ever hear Sharon Gabet admit publicly to pushing him out, if, in fact, she did that.

by Anonymousreply 120April 14, 2017 2:24 AM

I remember Gabet saying in an interview that there was actor, whom she didn't name, had AIDS, She said that he hacked up a lung every day, and that she was afraid of being around him, as she was pregnant. I was never sure if she was talking about Parker or Crothers, but it's clear now that she meant Parker. You really can't blame her. 1983/1984 was the infancy of AIDS becoming part of the cultural landscape, and no one was sure how it was transmitted. I'd have been terrified too, especially if I were pregnant.

by Anonymousreply 121April 14, 2017 2:35 AM

I heard/read that same interview r121. That was the interview I was referring to my posts at r115 and r120.

It was at least 15 years ago, if not 20 years, that I saw/heard that. I believe it was some kind of radio interview or podcast where she said that.

by Anonymousreply 122April 14, 2017 2:45 AM

Having been a gay teenager during those years, I can attest to the fact that it was an extremely frightening time. People didn't know enough about AIDS in the early days to be sure it couldn't be transmitted through a mere cough. I wouldn't blame Gabert for being worried about her health, as well as her baby's. I'm sure in retrospect, she probably feels bad for her reaction to Parker being sick, but at the time, no one knew what was going on and had to be extra careful.

Hell, I didn't kiss or sleep with anyone for a 2-year stretch.

by Anonymousreply 123April 14, 2017 3:31 AM

R113 Actually, his last adult movie was likely John Derek's feature, "Love You," in 1979. I know this one was indeed filmed in 1979, because in an interview, Eric Edwards, the other male lead in the movie, talked about Bo Derek being on location with them, and this was right after "10" had come out and made her a star. "10" also came out in 1979.

Since Nichols got his Edge of Night gig in 1979, it makes sense that "Love You" would have been his adult film swan song. By the way, his body was at its absolute hottest in that movie. And his nude wrestling scene with Edwards, albeit short, was very erotic. Edwards said the actual scene was rather lengthy, but it was cut for the final print because Derek decided it was a little too homoerotic. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 124April 14, 2017 3:36 AM

It's heartbreaking watching him in R40's video. He looked so sick, and if you watch closely, he appears to have trouble even walking across the room, like it's painful and taking every bit of strength he had to move. I admire him for making that effort, though. He really persevered.

by Anonymousreply 125April 14, 2017 1:46 PM

Philip Casnoff also in those clips starred in the original cast of "Chess" on Broadway and sang "One Night In Bangkok". His co-star was David Carroll who also died of AIDS. He actually died in the recording studio while recording the Original Cast Album for "Grand Hotel the Musical" his show after "Chess".

by Anonymousreply 126April 14, 2017 9:42 PM

Is Philip Casnoff a gay?

by Anonymousreply 127April 14, 2017 10:00 PM

According to IMBD Cassanoff is married to Roxanne Hart since '84 and has two kids oh and also still alive.

by Anonymousreply 128April 15, 2017 2:01 AM

Casnoff was really good in the final year of EON. He played Raven's defense attorney when she was on trial for murdering Logan Swift. He and Gabet had a lot of chemistry.

by Anonymousreply 129April 15, 2017 2:12 AM

oh, right, you like to focus on the ones that had AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 130April 15, 2017 2:14 AM

Most of the males on Edge croaked from the aids.

by Anonymousreply 131April 15, 2017 9:03 AM

This would make for a wrenching film if you had the right script and director. The last years of an 80s soap where AIDS is killing half the cast.

by Anonymousreply 132April 15, 2017 9:26 AM

R132 His life story really would be a great movie, wouldn't it?

by Anonymousreply 133April 15, 2017 12:22 PM

Was Mandel Kramer as Chief Bill Marceau fired from EON, or did he retire? If he hadn't left, we never would've gotten Dennis Parker.

by Anonymousreply 134April 15, 2017 1:47 PM

r132 That's a great idea. Could make a fantastic film. With the right script and director, as you said.

Not a lot of cast members around to offer inside scoop on what it was like. So, need to interview them fairly soon. Sharon Gabet's 65 now. Obviously she could provide the best insights to those last couple of years.

Ann Flood is 82. No idea how her health or memory is. Charles Flohe (Preacher) is 59 and likely has some tales to tell.

Lori Loughlin (Jody) and Mark Arnold (Gavin) were both gone by the final year.

Some of actors who played the minor characters might have some good insights. Marianna Alda (Didi Bannister), Lela Ivy (Mitzi Martin), Sandy Faison (Beth Correll), Ernie Townsend (Cliff Nelson), Jennifer Taylor (Chris Egan).

by Anonymousreply 135April 16, 2017 12:00 AM

Ann Flood suffered from Erika Slezak Syndrome, just looking so old before her time. She was a beautiful and classy woman, and maybe it's the way they styled her, but she looked 65 in 1984.

by Anonymousreply 136April 16, 2017 12:08 AM

Here's the cast circa 1981-82.

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by Anonymousreply 137April 16, 2017 12:19 AM

^^^Jebus, is there any man in that photo that WASN'T gay. Do you Joel Crothers and Irving Allen Lee were poz when this photo was taken. Parker certainly was, poor guy.

by Anonymousreply 138April 16, 2017 12:21 AM

Imagine all the cumstains on the sofas in the dressing rooms at Edge.

by Anonymousreply 139April 16, 2017 3:37 AM

That's why it was probably cancelled, all the guys were dropping like flies.

by Anonymousreply 140April 16, 2017 6:35 PM

R11 There might be a reason why "Manhole" (or "Manhold") has disappeared. This comes from an article about the director, David E. Durston, and references information contained in the book "Sleazoid Express." ( Also, I've read that it was in 3D. Not a techie, but if copies exist, perhaps that complicates transfer ??)

[quote] From here, Durston’s career as a filmmaker goes into its swan song. Durston had “always had a hand in the specialized and insular netherworld of gay hardcore porn,” according to Landis and Clifford’s indispensable book, Sleazoid Express (2002). Durston wrote and directed these last couple films under the name “Spencer Logan” and/or “David Ransom.” In 1975 he made Boy-napped! a hardcore gay porn film starring the late Jamie Gillis–-who, as it happened, passed away just a few months before Durston in 2010. In 1978 another gay hardcore film Manhole was made, also with Gillis. Landis and Clifford say this last film was called Manhold, not Manhole, as IMDB has it, and that it was not released because one of the cast members got a role in Escape from Alcatraz, and the association with gay hardcore would have been bad for this unspecified person’s career, as well as for Clint Eastwood’s blockbuster.

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by Anonymousreply 141April 16, 2017 10:32 PM

r98, Casnoff's forehead was not star material.

by Anonymousreply 142April 16, 2017 10:54 PM

Meryl Casnoff sounds a hell of a lot better than Meryl Gummer.

by Anonymousreply 143April 16, 2017 11:10 PM

Manhole/Manhold was released in theaters. More likely it didn't do that well in theaters and the prints were lost over the years. They didn't think about the long-term value of these movies and attempt to preserve them. Quite a bit of the prints of 70s porn films are missing, and some of them never released in any another form.

It's too bad, since I'm sure fans of Wade, Jamie Gillis and Zebedy Colt would like to see it.

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by Anonymousreply 144April 16, 2017 11:44 PM

Wade did a gay loop for Target Studios called "Triad" which also starred porn icon Bruno and another guy called Zach.

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by Anonymousreply 145April 16, 2017 11:58 PM

He looked hot with a beard. If he wanted to wear facial hair, wish he would've stuck with this instead of the mustache.

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by Anonymousreply 146April 17, 2017 12:13 AM

R141 So DeVeren Bookwalter was the one who kept Mahnole from opening (pun intended)?

by Anonymousreply 147April 17, 2017 1:41 AM

R145 I wish I could see this one. Nichols and Bruno together!

by Anonymousreply 148April 17, 2017 1:41 AM

Another pic from the Wade and Bruno loop. Hopefully the loop itself gets uploaded online sometime.

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by Anonymousreply 149April 17, 2017 2:15 AM

Well, I must say, Philip Casnoff is very talented, and still looks great for a guy nearing 70.

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by Anonymousreply 150April 17, 2017 2:19 AM

Lois Kibbee enjoyed snatch. A LOT.

by Anonymousreply 151April 17, 2017 2:22 AM

Everyone knew that Lois was a big old lez. She hit on Ann Flood.

by Anonymousreply 152April 17, 2017 4:55 AM

Lois could out-munch Connie Ford.

by Anonymousreply 153April 17, 2017 5:41 AM

R149 I wonder when that loop was made. Nichols doesn't look so good in that picture.

by Anonymousreply 154April 17, 2017 11:06 AM

Connie Ford had a great tongue!

by Anonymousreply 155April 17, 2017 12:55 PM

There certainly were some sweet young dishes on Edge. Lori Loughlin, Leah Ayres, Kerrie Emerson, Sharon Gabet, Terry Davis, etc. Must've driven old Lois crazy.

by Anonymousreply 156April 17, 2017 3:47 PM

"Manhold" played at least two months in NY at the Adonis in 3D!

by Anonymousreply 157April 17, 2017 5:05 PM

Did you see it, R157?

by Anonymousreply 158April 17, 2017 7:00 PM

I hate this old tired shit thread.

by Anonymousreply 159April 17, 2017 8:09 PM

Then don't click on it r159. Simple as that.

by Anonymousreply 160April 17, 2017 8:23 PM

But I even hate seeing it on the DL!

by Anonymousreply 161April 17, 2017 8:44 PM

I think a dramatic movie about the last days of a soap with much of the male cast dropping like flies would be a very difficult one to make. It would probably be a more interesting documentary.

by Anonymousreply 162April 17, 2017 8:51 PM

I think Nichols' life alone, from theater actor to gay porn actor to straight porn actor to recording artist to soap star to untimely death would be an amazing film.

by Anonymousreply 163April 17, 2017 10:39 PM

I want to see a movie about Lois Kibbee's life. Snatcheater. Featuring Connie Ford as kick in the cunt Ada Hobson.

by Anonymousreply 164April 17, 2017 10:58 PM

So which daytime actresses were munchers besides Lois, Connie, Irene Daile, Geri, Maureen Garrett and Flannery? I'm on the fence about Jane Elliot, Lezzlie Charleson, Donna Mills and Dee Dee Halls.

by Anonymousreply 165April 17, 2017 11:05 PM

Peggy McCay, Eileen Herlie. Some dyke on Love of Life, can't think of her name.

by Anonymousreply 166April 17, 2017 11:29 PM

[quote]Did you see it?

No I've seen the ad in the Village Voices that are viewable online.

by Anonymousreply 167April 17, 2017 11:46 PM

Grayson Hall seemed like a lesbian but she wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 168April 17, 2017 11:56 PM

R165 Joanna Johnson, of course. And for awhile, Clementine Ford, who's now married to a man (again).

by Anonymousreply 169April 18, 2017 12:17 AM

[quote]"Manhold" played at least two months in NY at the Adonis in 3D!

Ew! I hope they sterilized the 3D glasses in between showings!

by Anonymousreply 170April 18, 2017 12:43 AM

No one in the history of the Adonis ever looked at the screen. That's why their entire clientele are dead.

by Anonymousreply 171April 18, 2017 2:29 AM

But does he have to DIE in the end, R163?

by Anonymousreply 172April 18, 2017 2:36 AM

Who's the woman standing next to Terry Davis? I think she played Winter Austin, but I'm not sure. Wow, never realized how tall Tony Craig (Draper Scott) was.

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by Anonymousreply 173April 18, 2017 3:39 AM

What about Lee Godart? Does he like the cock?

by Anonymousreply 174April 18, 2017 5:21 AM

Wade had nice ass.

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by Anonymousreply 175April 18, 2017 1:37 PM

Loving the Speedo tan line!

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by Anonymousreply 176April 18, 2017 1:49 PM

I wish that all the "the aids" trolls would kindly disregard the cautionary on "the hairdryers".

by Anonymousreply 177April 18, 2017 2:11 PM

Wade took alot of cum up that ass!

by Anonymousreply 178April 18, 2017 2:37 PM

The Rialto Report posted on their twitter this morning that they're finishing up a posting (in article form I'm guessing) about Wade/Dennis. Hopefully it's posted soon.

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by Anonymousreply 179April 18, 2017 9:01 PM

R173 Yes, it's original "Winter Austin," actress Lori Cardille. Here's a brief video featuring her. Commentators at youtube mention her having some kind of breakdown over the story (apparently hitting to close to home) as to why she left EON. She wrote a book about childhood sexual abuse in 2001 called "I'm Gonna Tell: ...An Offbeat Tale of Survival."

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by Anonymousreply 180April 18, 2017 9:31 PM

And if you scroll to Pages 19 and 20 in this preview of Cardille's story at Google books, you can read her account of what happened. Chapter entitled: "The Edge ... of Night. The Edge ... of Insanity."

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by Anonymousreply 181April 18, 2017 9:39 PM

R179 This is great news! They say they have input from his family and friends. We should get some great insight into his life and hopefully find out how he really died.

by Anonymousreply 182April 19, 2017 12:49 AM

R179 If the Wade Nichols piece is anything like the piece they did on Dolly Sharpe, it should be great.

by Anonymousreply 183April 19, 2017 12:52 AM

I can't get them in the preview r181. I remember her, and remember being disappointed with the recast, and the outcome.

by Anonymousreply 184April 19, 2017 12:53 AM

We know how he died. He had the aids.

by Anonymousreply 185April 19, 2017 1:10 AM

There are rumors that he committed suicide because he had AIDS, R185. But it's cute how you like to come on here and type "the aids."

by Anonymousreply 186April 19, 2017 1:13 AM

R184 Here's page 19. Page 20 follows.

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by Anonymousreply 187April 19, 2017 1:14 AM

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by Anonymousreply 188April 19, 2017 1:14 AM

Thanks r187

And the "the aids" troll has become tiresome, probably the same nut who insists gay actors from soaps are straight. We all know who that disgruntled nut is. Should I mention his name from previous soap threads?

by Anonymousreply 189April 19, 2017 1:27 AM

R189 Yes! Call him out!

by Anonymousreply 190April 19, 2017 1:32 AM

So he killed himseld because he had the aids? What did he do? Drink too much cum???

by Anonymousreply 191April 19, 2017 8:39 AM

Dennis had the poopy pants!

by Anonymousreply 192April 20, 2017 2:03 PM

Eric Edwards did an interview a couple of years ago where he talked about making the movie "Love You," which also starred Nichols. He said he knew Nichols was gay, but Edwards was never uncomfortable around him and Nichols was a complete professional.

Edwards thought John Derek, Bo's husband and the director of the movie, might have been bisexual or closeted, because he was really into filming the nude wrestling scene between Nichols and Edwards.

Edwards said Nichols was more nervous about filming that scene than he was.

by Anonymousreply 193April 20, 2017 2:44 PM

Wow, R100 sounds like one of those obnoxious, loudmouth dorks that give gays everywhere a bad name. Take the abuse somewhere else, toots.

by Anonymousreply 194April 20, 2017 2:53 PM

Can't see any of this thread

by Anonymousreply 195April 20, 2017 4:29 PM

The Rialto Report finally posted their article on Wade/Dennis today. It's very extensive and they cover his whole life (and sex life) and talk about it in detail. Well worth the read.

They've obviously seen this thread because they lifted the yearbook photo and The Edge of Night info/videos I posted. Hi Ashley and April!

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by Anonymousreply 196June 25, 2017 8:25 PM

That was an interesting read, if not quite on the level of pathos etc. as the Helen Wood/Dolly Sharp one. They don't try to downplay his vanity or ability to use others (Jacques Morali, it would seem). It's not clarified but it wouldn't surprise me if Dennis kept paying his half of the rent controlled apartment, or more likely the full amount, while with Morali. He and Joey probably never broke up.

It's amazing how Dennis' looks vary in the pics. He looks handsome in one shot, not i the next, handsome again then not. And the pics appear to be roughly chronological. He looks downright cartoonish in the pic with Dinah Shore. He looked his best in the two clean shaven pics that look like early headshots. I'd bet that his body looked better too - his face looks fuller than in his porn era pics.

I didn't think he looked as bad as I was expecting in his final Edge of Night scene. He didn't look as bad ad Rock Hudson, for instance. That ski slope nosejob was a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 197June 25, 2017 10:25 PM

My god that article is maddening. Skip. Skip St. James. Skip St. James, Dennis' partner. Skip St James (Dennis' partner in the early 70s). WE KNOW SKIP ST JAMES WAS DENNIS' PARTNER IN THE EARLY 70s. We get it. This isn't an article aimed at head trauma victims. Jesus. Are all Rialto reports this inane?

by Anonymousreply 198June 25, 2017 10:32 PM

R197 Morali seemed to be very difficult to deal with and could be verbally abusive towards Dennis. It was mutually beneficial relationship, it would seem. Although it looks like Morali really fell in love with him while Dennis still loved Joey. I get the feeling they never really broke up either.

Yes, his looks changed and not for the better in his later years. He aged quickly, his face could looks gaunt, and the nose and dental work wasn't a improvement. I wonder who idea is was, Dennis (who could be vain) or Morali who thought he'd be more marketable with the "improvements" and looking less ethnic.

by Anonymousreply 199June 26, 2017 1:26 AM

[quote] his looks changed and not for the better in his later years. He aged quickly, his face could looks gaunt

No shit, he had AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 200June 26, 2017 1:47 AM

Nah. He looked gaunt in lots of the porn shots included. He stopped shooting in 77/78.

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by Anonymousreply 201June 26, 2017 1:55 AM

Yes, it started many years before he got AIDS. I've never heard about him doing drugs other than pot. He seemed to be far too professional for that to the case. Maybe was a smoker and that helped cause his fast aging along with the bad plastic surgery.

by Anonymousreply 202June 26, 2017 2:00 AM

I remember Parker on Edge of Night. He did look ill in his last years on there. I loved to think about a hot scene between him Lee Godart, who was so hot back then also.

by Anonymousreply 203June 26, 2017 2:36 AM

Is Boynapped streaming on any of the tube sites yet?

by Anonymousreply 204June 26, 2017 3:26 AM

So glad the Rialto Report finally did this piece. Interesting insights on his relationship with Morali. It's great they were able to locate Dennis' brother.

by Anonymousreply 205June 26, 2017 4:16 AM

R201, that's just the seventies look.

by Anonymousreply 206June 26, 2017 4:18 AM

New York By Night, the Dennis/Wade disco song linked by R71, can be heard in the Jack Wrangler porno Boots and Saddles. I think it's before the final confrontation scene between Jack and the Nazi.

by Anonymousreply 207June 26, 2017 5:10 AM

I remember his last Edge scenes. Gabet said that he shit his pants alot onset. He couldn't control his bowels. You could tell that he had the aids.

by Anonymousreply 208June 26, 2017 9:05 AM

[quote]Yes, it started many years before he got AIDS

His time from porn to death was less than ten years. It was stated his was naturally thin and hardly worked out. There is a big difference than being skinny and what he looked like in those final "Edge Of Night" episodes.

by Anonymousreply 209June 26, 2017 9:24 AM

R208 Why do you keep telling that BS story? Are you some kind of scat queen?

by Anonymousreply 210June 26, 2017 11:19 AM

It's not BS. Go on Facebook and ask Sharon about it. She'll tell you. Dennis had to wear diapers because he was shitting and soiling his suits on Edge. It was part of the aids.

by Anonymousreply 211June 26, 2017 11:32 AM

You're full of it, R211. I've read Gabet's accounts of working with Dennis. She never said any of those things; only that he was losing weight and was exhausted and had to lie down between takes.

You seem to have some strange compulsion with mocking those suffering from HIV and AIDS. You've got issues, dude. Get some help.

by Anonymousreply 212June 26, 2017 11:35 AM

One of the biggest surprises to me was learning that Joey Alan Phipps from The Edge of Night was Dennis' longtime boyfriend!

The Rialto Report article also says Nick Nickelson, Edge's producer, was "smitten" with Dennis. I wonder if there was anything going on between those two, and that's how Dennis managed to get Joey on the show.

by Anonymousreply 213June 26, 2017 11:39 AM

They called him doo doo pants Dennis on the Edge set.

by Anonymousreply 214June 26, 2017 11:40 AM

I had seen an interview with Eric Edwards where he talked about the nude wrestling scene between he and Dennis in "Love You" and how John Derek seemed to be fascinated by it, leading Edwards to think Derek might have been gay or bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 215June 26, 2017 11:43 AM

R118 here, and R255 from the Gossip in Hollywood thread. I'd forgotten about this thread. I just read the long remembrance above with Dennis's brother and exes. I only spent a few hours with him that night and it was not great, and I think I mentioned his boyfriend "Terry" walked in. I realize now it was "Joey." Because of the timing, I recall wondering at the time if Joey had been watching us from somewhere before he walked in on us naked. I didn't see the sweet side of Dennis, probably because of the drugs. I was a one-night-stand, or a one-hour-stand, with him and was kind of amazed he talked to me. I was only about 19 then, a twink, skinny with light-brown hair and a bad complexion. There were so many interesting gay guys in NYC back then. I was always looking for love and knew it wouldn't be happening with Dennis. Uncle Charlie's was very close to his apartment, which I think was on 38th near Third. I remember it wasn't a long walk from the bar. Obviously we didn't exchange phone numbers, and shortly afterwards I moved in with my first "real" boyfriend on the UES. I never saw Dennis after that but I remember a lot of the crowd that was around back then. There was Potossa de Lafayette, a Filipino drag queen who was Dali's muse. I knew Pablo, who was Paul Lynde's long-term hustler/boyfriend. I left NYC in '75 and moved to L.A. L.A. had nothing on NYC. You would never meet the kind of people out in Hollywood that you met in the city back then

by Anonymousreply 216June 26, 2017 12:34 PM

R216 Wow! What a great story! Sorry your time with Dennis wasn't a good one, but it gave you a great story! The Rialto Report story says Dennis was into twinky boys with slight frames, so based on your description of yourself from that time, it's not surprising that he was attracted to you. What do you remember about him picking you up? Did he give you a line, or was it more just, "come back to my place?"

by Anonymousreply 217June 26, 2017 1:13 PM

R216 Did you taste Dennis' cum?

by Anonymousreply 218June 26, 2017 1:41 PM

R217, No I don't remember any lines. I think he just walked over, started talking to me, and I said "Sure" when he mentioned he lived a couple of blocks away and asked me to come by.

R216. No. Like I said. Some (most) fantasies are better left unfulfilled.

by Anonymousreply 219June 26, 2017 3:55 PM

Editor! This is a SOAP THREAD!!

by Anonymousreply 220June 26, 2017 4:03 PM

Joel Crothers and Dennis had cum on their breath when they came into work. Ughhhhhh!

by Anonymousreply 221June 26, 2017 4:11 PM

That scene from "In Love" with Dennis and Eric Edwards wrestling nude WAS pretty hot. Too bad it was edited down to just a few seconds!

by Anonymousreply 222June 27, 2017 12:55 AM

"Love You." Sorry ^^

by Anonymousreply 223June 27, 2017 12:55 AM

R216 thanks for your story. That Uncle Charlie's on third ave must've been a hotbed of famous trade in its time. Shortly after I moved to NYC in '84, Jack Wrangler came up to me out of the blue in there and started chatting me up. He never made any mention of who he was but I knew it was him straight away.

by Anonymousreply 224June 27, 2017 1:11 AM

Well, Sharon certainly wasn't talking about me! I had the cleanest diapers on the "Edge of Night" set!

by Anonymousreply 225June 27, 2017 4:07 AM

So who was gay/bi on Edge besides Dennis Parker? Forrest Compton? Mandel Kramer?

by Anonymousreply 226June 27, 2017 4:14 AM

This snippet from it I found to be particularly amusing -

Carter Stevens (adult film director):

When I made ‘Jailbait’ (1977), he was my lead actor. We shot it up in Nyack NY, which was a sort of a mini porn capital for filming in those days. I had this gay make-up artist working on the crew, and after a couple of days, he proudly came to me to announce that he had “turned” one of my actors.

I asked him which one?

He said it was the star, Wade Nichols!

I inquired if he knew that Wade had been a professional call-boy before the films?

The make-up artist looked pained, and said: “Oh that queen! He told me I was his first!”

by Anonymousreply 227June 27, 2017 4:23 AM

Here's an EON scene that aired back in May 1980 with his boyfriend Joey Alan Phipps as the puppeteer. Fast forward to 12min 30sec in and that's where he starts. The fans really didn't care for him, just look at the comments posted under the clip.

I agree with the comments about this Joey guy. I wasn't much of an Allen Fawcett fan but he's miles ahead of this rather creepy and effeminate version of Kelly.

Joey Allan Phipps will come across as creepy and disturbed. Allen Fawcett is more masculine, sure of himself, blonde, blue-eyed. He and Lori Loughlin are supposed to remind everyone of the Blue Lagoon.

Sadly, one can see why Joey Allen Phipps didn't last long in the role of Kelly McGrath. He just wasn't right for the role.

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by Anonymousreply 228June 27, 2017 4:40 AM

He looked deformed with those massive cheek implants and terrible ski-slope nose job.

by Anonymousreply 229June 27, 2017 4:43 AM

Did you go home with him R224?

by Anonymousreply 230June 27, 2017 12:22 PM

Imagine all the cum stains on Dennis dressing room couch.

by Anonymousreply 231June 27, 2017 2:54 PM

Joel Crothers' dressing room was a CUMulative DNA sample.

by Anonymousreply 232June 27, 2017 3:17 PM

Joey Alan Phipps was a pretty bad actor so it's not surprising he got fired quickly and had very little other work in showbiz. I have a hard time seeing him as a top, since Dennis was supposedly a bottom.

by Anonymousreply 233June 27, 2017 5:14 PM

R48 Stepping Out By Joe Jackson, not very disco now was it?

by Anonymousreply 234June 27, 2017 5:33 PM

[quote] I have a hard time seeing him as a top, since Dennis was supposedly a bottom.

I think Joey was the bottom in that relationship.

by Anonymousreply 235June 27, 2017 7:09 PM

Ann Flood was top billed on EDGE

Edge of Night

Starring

Ann Flood

As

Nancy Karr

by Anonymousreply 236June 27, 2017 8:07 PM

The cheekbones are a turnoff. His face looks... weird. Sorry, not seeing what all the fuss is about, and I generally like men from this time period.

by Anonymousreply 237June 27, 2017 8:14 PM

His face is shaped like a diamond. 🔷

He looks like he could play a Dick Tracy villian, Diamondhead.

No one else sees this? You actually see a good looking man under those enormous, misshapen cheekbones?

by Anonymousreply 238June 27, 2017 8:24 PM

He was very good looking in the late 60s and first half the 70s. See the pics at R14 and R16 but the face work he had after that was a bad idea and could make him look strange.

by Anonymousreply 239June 27, 2017 9:10 PM

I think Joel Crothers might have went to Dennis' surgeon as well.

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by Anonymousreply 240June 27, 2017 9:16 PM

DEnnis and Joel prolly exchanged cum a number of times. I wonder if one gave the other the aids.

by Anonymousreply 241June 27, 2017 9:33 PM

[quote]I have a hard time seeing him as a top, since Dennis was supposedly a bottom.

I never got the impression he was a bottom. Where does that come from?

by Anonymousreply 242June 27, 2017 10:29 PM

From the article, R242. You should read it.

by Anonymousreply 243June 27, 2017 10:32 PM

According to his boyfriend Skip, Dennis was a bottom, but it sounds like he could top occasionally as well:

[quote]"As far as sex would go, he was not a top. He was a bottom. In fact, his big thing was getting fist-fucked, and being on the receiving end. He liked to watch too.

[quote]Dennis was never safe with sex at all. Once we went to Puerto Rico, and we went to the old part of town where there were all these shacks. I forget what the place is called. It’s supposed to be dangerous. We walked down there. I remember him screwing this Puerto Rican kid in broad daylight."

I have a hard time seeing Joey as a top. But who knows. Dennis seemed to be really attached to him. Joey put off contracting HIV for several years after Dennis died. According to Dennis' brother, Joey contracted it in the early 90s. Sounds like they stayed in touch after Dennis death.

by Anonymousreply 244June 27, 2017 10:40 PM

It's interesting that in all of the threads about gay-for-pay porn stars, there's always a vocal contingent who insist that they CANNOT possibly be straight, yet here we have an example of a gay man who did a lot of straight porn, yet no one says he cannot possibly be gay if he does straight porn.

by Anonymousreply 245June 27, 2017 11:02 PM

r245, what are you on about? I've suggested this guy was probably bisexual earlier on in this thread.

Also, to compare the stigma of a gay/bi man having sex with women to a straight man having sex with other men, and having this memorialized on film, is ludicrous.

by Anonymousreply 246June 28, 2017 12:41 AM

To R230-No we didn't hook up. I didn't invite him to my place so after awhile he said he was getting tired and was going home. He was living with Margaret Whiting so I don't know if she would even allow him to bring back tricks there.

by Anonymousreply 247June 28, 2017 12:42 AM

R228 That clip is a little chilling when Joey is talking about not knowing how much time anyone has and that "some strange virus" could kill you.

by Anonymousreply 248June 28, 2017 1:08 AM

Geez, can you imagine the fraus' reaction back in the early '80s if they had learned about his porn past and sexual peccadilloes?

by Anonymousreply 249June 28, 2017 1:43 AM

NIck Nicholson was a big old queen. He fought for his fellow queens but must have lost the fight over Joey and replacing him on Edge.

by Anonymousreply 250June 28, 2017 2:00 AM

I think the number of gay guys on EON has been overestimated throughout the years. People claim that Joel Crothers was gay, but where's the proof? At the time of his death from lymphoma, he was engaged to Veleka Gray. He was also romantically linked to actress on AW whose name escapes me. Denny Albee was straight. So was Forrest Compton, Tony Craig, Joe Lambie, Larkin Malloy, Charles (Flohe) Grant, etc., etc., etc. They were all straight.

by Anonymousreply 251June 28, 2017 2:12 AM

Joel Crothers had gayface for days (although a handsome one when he was young). There has long been bearding arrangements in show business, the soaps included. Dennis had some as did Joel. Sharon Gabet mentioned that she talked to Joel a few days before he died and it was AIDS he died of in The Rialto Report article on Dennis.

by Anonymousreply 252June 28, 2017 2:30 AM

LArkin malloy straight? lololololololololol Don't tell his boyfriends! They'll be shocked.

by Anonymousreply 253June 28, 2017 2:34 AM

Marcia Cross bearded for Larkin for a bit when she was on OLTL. Not sure if Larkin was on GL or AMC at the time.

by Anonymousreply 254June 28, 2017 2:51 AM

Dennis/Wade was a walking petri dish, god bless him. I think about the late 70s, early 80s, before the virus was known, before people started dying. Would he have made any changes if he had known the risks? Surprised so many of his partners lived long enough to talk about him. He must have been something special. RIP in peace.

by Anonymousreply 255June 28, 2017 7:07 AM

Larkin Malloy was straight. He had great chem with all of his leading ladies (Lucci, Zimmer, Gabet). Ya can't fake that. That's also why I'm suspicious of the Joel Crothers claims. His romantic chemistry with his leading ladies was palpable. Sorry, but that CANNOT be faked. Sorry to burst your bubbles.

by Anonymousreply 256June 28, 2017 1:19 PM

Cannot be faked? He's an actor. He got paid to fake it.

by Anonymousreply 257June 28, 2017 1:36 PM

[quote]Sorry, but that CANNOT be faked. Sorry to burst your bubbles.

Keep telling yourself that and living in your world of delusion.

by Anonymousreply 258June 28, 2017 2:31 PM

R256 Paul Anthony Stewart says hi. He's openly gay with a long-term boyfriend and was noted for having great chemistry with his leading ladies.

by Anonymousreply 259June 28, 2017 6:07 PM

Joel didn't come off gay at all. Where the fuck are these 'they're not gay' tards coming from?

Go back to talking to the the voices that live in your knitting basket.

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by Anonymousreply 260June 28, 2017 6:25 PM

R256 Seek help. You're fucking clueless.

by Anonymousreply 261June 28, 2017 6:35 PM

How do you know they were gay? Did you witness them having sex with other men? Did they confide in you? Or is it just hearsay? And of course every good looking actor just HAS to be gay, doesn't he??? And no, I'm sorry, a gay man CANNOT fake that type of romantic chemistry with a woman. I just don't see it. Next thing you'll be telling me is that Cameron Mathison and Jon Hensley are gay. Just because a guy is handsome and hot doesn't mean he is attracted to other men. Getting off my soapbox.

by Anonymousreply 262June 29, 2017 1:48 AM

[quote]I think the number of gay guys on EON has been overestimated throughout the years. People claim that Joel Crothers was gay, but where's the proof? At the time of his death from lymphoma, he was engaged to Veleka Gray. He was also romantically linked to actress on AW whose name escapes me. Denny Albee was straight. So was Forrest Compton, Tony Craig, Joe Lambie, Larkin Malloy, Charles (Flohe) Grant, etc., etc., etc. They were all straight.

They were actors and had relationships with women, usually friends to keep in the closet. Crothers died of AIDS at the beginning. He was out to close friends and family.

by Anonymousreply 263June 29, 2017 2:15 AM

I read the RR article the other day. It had a few interesting tidbits, yet seemed oddly underwhelming. Regardless, what a life he led, including being a call boy (one of the intriguing bits). Unfortunately, his disco song LIKE AN EAGLE has been stuck in my head ever since – and it isn’t even that good!

[quote]I've never heard about him doing drugs other than pot. He seemed to be far too professional for that to the case. Maybe was a smoker and that helped cause his fast aging along with the bad plastic surgery.

He was a bottom and into getting fisted (two more intriguing bits), and likely used poppers for that (however, I have no idea if long-term poppers use effs up one’s looks). R216 – who briefly tricked with him – mentioned drug use.

[quote]Is Boynapped streaming on any of the tube sites yet?

Yes. I found it on Pornhub when this thread first appeared and it’s still there. Couldn’t get through more than a few minutes (with FFing) as it’s dull as hell.

by Anonymousreply 264June 29, 2017 3:58 AM

Oh god, I totally see now that he had fisting bottom face, R264. Yeesh. A bit of a turn-off.

by Anonymousreply 265June 29, 2017 5:19 AM

And "Manhold" the other porn Wade did with Jamie Gillis in 3D is long lost. Directed by the guy who made "Boy-napped" and went on to direct the cult classic horror movie "I Drink Your Blood". Some print is sitting in some film depot somewhere but they struck so few prints in those days, they were probably destroyed when old porn theaters were raised.

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by Anonymousreply 266June 29, 2017 10:01 AM

R262 Did you witness Crothers having sex with women? Well did you? Who were his girlfriends? How come he never married? How come after he died, friends who he was out to talked about how he was gay but they never talked about how he was straight.

by Anonymousreply 267June 29, 2017 11:48 AM

I'm trying to decide whether the "they're not gay" poster is delusional or yanking our chains. Is there another option?

by Anonymousreply 268June 29, 2017 1:10 PM

No, of course I never witnessed Joel Crothers having sex with a woman. But I do know he was engaged to be married to Veleka Gray at the time of his death. That could hardly be considered a bearding relationship. They were very much in love. He was also romantically linked to another P&G actress whose name escapes me. Possibly Millette Alexander, though I'm drawing a bit of a blank on that. Whatever the case, the evidence is there that he was straight. I take the anecdotal evidence that he was gay with a grain of salt. His romantic linkage with female actresses plus his effortless masculinity and his great chemistry with his leading ladies tell me that he was most likely straight. I know I'm right. My gut rarely fails me in these matters.

by Anonymousreply 269June 29, 2017 1:41 PM

[quote]I do know he was engaged to be married to Veleka Gray at the time of his death. That could hardly be considered a bearding relationship.

Wasn't former NJ Governor McGreevey married twice and have a daughter with each wife?

When did engagements and marriage become proof that someone is in the Hetero Hall of Fame?

by Anonymousreply 270June 29, 2017 1:46 PM

Why would Joel have needed to beard. He was already an established daytime actor. He wasn't looking to make it big in prime time or film. At that point in his life, especially ill with cancer, why would he need to acquire a beard? What would've been his motivation? Makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 271June 29, 2017 1:56 PM

Because it was the 80's and his audience were housewives that fantasied about fucking him. Are you 7? You know damn well why actors beard. Even Wiki has the engagement as bearding and no one seems to contest it. Oh and Veleka Gray was married once briefly and had it annulled. Do the fucking math and go to bed, it's past your bedtime..

by Anonymousreply 272June 29, 2017 2:03 PM

R262 is just funnin' with ya, fellas. Nobody can be that stupid.

by Anonymousreply 273June 29, 2017 2:07 PM

[quote]they were probably destroyed when old porn theaters were raised.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 274June 29, 2017 2:55 PM

So poor Joel got aids from a woman? So unlucky! Poor thing.

by Anonymousreply 275June 29, 2017 4:26 PM

Joel died from complications of lymphoma, not AIDS. The AIDS thing is pure speculation because he wasn't married at the time, rather, engaged to a woman.

by Anonymousreply 276June 29, 2017 4:34 PM

Well, the actors and crew on Santa Barbara all knew that Joel had aids. Why don't you know it?

by Anonymousreply 277June 29, 2017 5:05 PM

The fact a homophobic frau like r262 could even find her way to DL is evidence how badly things have deteriorated here.

by Anonymousreply 278June 30, 2017 12:12 AM

Between takes with Miss Gloria Leonard

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by Anonymousreply 279July 1, 2017 3:23 AM

Nearly every movie I've seen with Gloria Leonard she always seemed to be hiding her belly in some way. I figured she must've had some bad stretch marks or a cesarean section scar.

by Anonymousreply 280July 1, 2017 3:46 AM

The nose seems to have a bit of a downward tilt here. A pre nosejob porn shoot?

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by Anonymousreply 281July 4, 2017 2:39 AM

Love the untrimmed bushes. So sexy.

by Anonymousreply 282July 4, 2017 2:50 AM

They say that Joel Crothers also had a huge untrimmed bush.

by Anonymousreply 283July 4, 2017 1:30 PM

They all have big thick hairy ripe musky bushes back then. Of course they all died from AIDS. I wonder if there's a connection.

by Anonymousreply 284July 4, 2017 3:47 PM

R276 Lib didn't die of AIDS either honey. In your alternate universe ,Joan Revolta is straight too.....

by Anonymousreply 285July 4, 2017 4:44 PM

Calvin Stoner had a big black chocolate stick that Joel used to slobber on. Sweet black nectar erupted from it.

by Anonymousreply 286July 4, 2017 4:49 PM

R281, Hon, it's not his nose I'm looking at. In fact, I never paid much attention to his nose. Now the rest of him, that is a different story altogether. The rest of him, well, yes, I paid plenty of attention!

by Anonymousreply 287July 4, 2017 8:13 PM

I want to see Manhold, and It want to see it in 3D NOW!

by Anonymousreply 288July 4, 2017 10:29 PM

Do you want a creme brulee with that, too?

by Anonymousreply 289July 4, 2017 10:31 PM

r288=Schuyler Whitney

by Anonymousreply 290July 5, 2017 1:34 AM

Ms Whitney was gayer than all the gays on Edge Of Night put together.......Raven was more butch than she was.

by Anonymousreply 291July 5, 2017 1:37 AM

I always had the feeling that Geraldine would've licked Raven's juicy clit if she had the chance. Hell, who could fucking blame the old dyke.

by Anonymousreply 292July 5, 2017 2:05 AM

Wade/Dennis was bisexual.

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by Anonymousreply 293March 11, 2018 12:07 PM

He was definitely NOT bisexual. The Rialto Report story on him makes it clear he was gay and that he was that rare breed of "straight-for-pay" porn actors.

by Anonymousreply 294March 11, 2018 12:10 PM

That's funny R294, considering even back in the 70s and 80s you did not make a lot of money in porn even hetero porn, and no guy that's actually gay is going to do porn with women even if he is being paid for it.

by Anonymousreply 295March 11, 2018 12:13 PM

Yikes! It's no wonder he became HIV+.

Another place we went was called The Barn. They had back rooms. We’d always be looking for a three way.

As far as sex would go, Dennis Parker was not a top. He was a bottom. In fact, his big thing was getting fist-fucked, and being on the receiving end. He liked to watch too.

Dennis was never safe with sex at all. Once we went to Puerto Rico, and we went to the old part of town where there were all these shacks. I forget what the place is called. It’s supposed to be dangerous. We walked down there. I remember him screwing this Puerto Rican kid in broad daylight.

by Anonymousreply 296March 11, 2018 12:17 PM

R295, meet Jack Wrangler.

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by Anonymousreply 297March 11, 2018 12:18 PM

The quality of the straight porn back then was far superior to the gay side. Much more time, money and effort was put into the straight films. They has decent scripts back then, directors they had some idea of filmmaking, and decent to good actors. There were lots of gay men both in front and behind the cameras. Wade, Jack, Zebedy Colt, RJ Reynolds, Marc Stevens, Chuck Vincent, John Christopher, The Amero Brothers, just to name some. This appealed to the ones with artistic aspirations and allowed them to continue to work on their craft.

by Anonymousreply 298March 11, 2018 12:44 PM

[quote]That's funny [R294], considering even back in the 70s and 80s you did not make a lot of money in porn even hetero porn, and no guy that's actually gay is going to do porn with women even if he is being paid for it.

Most of the early guys in "The Golden Age" were real actors that made the move because they were real movies that played in neighborhood theaters. There was about ten minutes where people thought hardcore might actually go mainstream. Directors hired guys who could act and even dick size didn't matter since most were average or a little bigger. Wade/Dennis was one of the rare uncut guys.

by Anonymousreply 299March 11, 2018 4:02 PM

R299 if you look at nude pics of Dennis he's cut.

by Anonymousreply 300March 11, 2018 9:12 PM

[Quote]Dennis was never safe with sex at all. Once we went to Puerto Rico, and we went to the old part of town where there were all these shacks. I forget what the place is called. It’s supposed to be dangerous. We walked down there. I remember him screwing this Puerto Rican kid in broad daylight.

That's "La Perla," r296. It was dangerous and lawless, but tourists now venture down there to drink and party. It's still sketchy, though.

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by Anonymousreply 301March 11, 2018 9:37 PM

[quote]if you look at nude pics of Dennis he's cut.

If you look at him in movies he uncut.

by Anonymousreply 302March 11, 2018 10:23 PM

Google wade nichols jamie gillis pornhub you'll see he's uncut.

by Anonymousreply 303March 11, 2018 10:24 PM

R299 He was definitely uncut.

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by Anonymousreply 304March 11, 2018 10:31 PM

I saw that pic as well R304 he looks cut to me. Anyone have a video where you can clearly see his foreskin-if he actually has one?

by Anonymousreply 305March 11, 2018 11:19 PM

[quote]Anyone have a video where you can clearly see his foreskin-if he actually has one?

once again..Google wade nichols jamie gillis pornhub and you'll see

by Anonymousreply 306March 12, 2018 11:03 AM

I did that R306 I just found some very old video with him and that closet queen Jack Wrangler and you can't really see his cock that well.

by Anonymousreply 307March 12, 2018 4:19 PM

How on earth is Jack Wrangler a " closet queen?"

by Anonymousreply 308March 12, 2018 6:14 PM

Because he was only gay around the edges.

by Anonymousreply 309March 12, 2018 6:19 PM

So many of these guys were really sweet. That's what always surprised me. I dated a few porn stars back when I wasn't the eldercrone I am now and that was my take-away from my interactions with them. Sweethearts with an edge of sadness to them.

by Anonymousreply 310March 12, 2018 7:38 PM

r309=Margaret Whiting

by Anonymousreply 311March 12, 2018 7:51 PM

[quote]I just found some very old video with him and that closet queen Jack Wrangler and you can't really see his cock that well.

That's not Jack Wrangler it's Jamie Gillis and you can clearly see Wade is uncut during his big climatic scene.

by Anonymousreply 312March 12, 2018 8:01 PM

[quote]during his big climatic scene.

There was a scene where he played a weatherman?

by Anonymousreply 313March 12, 2018 10:59 PM

I thought i read somewhere that those gay soap guys from the 70’s were friends and fuck buddies. David O’brien Joel Cruther’s and Wade. All who eventually died from aids.

The mid 80’s there so many deaths it was nightmare. You younger guys couldn’t imagine.

So many soap actors died.

by Anonymousreply 314March 12, 2018 11:36 PM

R308 because Jack Wrangler or John Robert Stillman was one of those ex gay types that married a woman just to appear heterosexual, all while he cheated on her with lots of men. A 1998 lawsuit against New York City demanded $1M for loss of conjugal relations with wife Margaret Whiting,

R216/R310 who did you date or sleep with? I'm not surprised that they were sad, they were all whores, since being an escort on the side is how anyone that's in porn makes money, and a lot were into drugs as well.

by Anonymousreply 315March 13, 2018 1:05 AM

[quote] A 1998 lawsuit against New York City demanded $1M for loss of conjugal relations with wife Margaret Whiting,

How would New York City be responsible for a loss of conjugal relations?

by Anonymousreply 316March 13, 2018 1:18 AM

Jack Wrangler was always openly gay. Case closed.

by Anonymousreply 317March 13, 2018 1:18 AM

They were sad in the way that they seemed damaged somehow from earlier in their lives, at least the ones I knew. I think the first guy I dated was Jamie Wingo, who was a porn actor partnered with another actor named Leo Ford. After Leo died, I met him in Hollywood. These guys would know that I would find out their "sidelines" eventually and they would try to ease me into the knowledge of their "other" life. The way Jamie did it was to invite me to a party and then, when it was time to go, he told he was the "gift" for the host whose birthday it was. I don't judge. They knew that. Jamie eventually moved away and wrote me sweet letters from, I think, Maine, or someplace like that. They're all gone now. But they were sweet. That's all. Don't judge.

by Anonymousreply 318March 13, 2018 2:01 AM

Edge Of Night was best prior to hiring all the male-model types. Anyone remember the Nicole Travis/Adam Drake/Stephanie Martin days?

by Anonymousreply 319March 13, 2018 2:36 AM

If he was R317 then why did he marry a woman and get into some lame marriage of convenience? If he was actually gay and open/out that's pathetic and akin to being ex gay or a total closet queen. But he was always an idiot and had no talent other than being a professional cum dumpster.

Here's the lawsuit information.

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by Anonymousreply 320March 13, 2018 5:44 PM

[quote]If he was [R317] then why did he marry a woman and get into some lame marriage of convenience? If he was actually gay and open/out that's pathetic and akin to being ex gay or a total closet queen. But he was always an idiot and had no talent other than being a professional cum dumpster.

He was gay gay gay. he married a gay icon of his generation. He lost his virginity with a woman ON FILM. Actually he was with two women in "China Sisters" after making 15 gay films and he was bad at it and had a dildo shoved up while he was at it. Read his book or see the documentary. His "wife" knew, accepted and understood his cheating with guys.

by Anonymousreply 321March 14, 2018 2:03 AM

R320 Watch the documentary about his life, "Wrangler: Anatomy of an Icon." He explains that he was gay, was always gay, and was gay when he married Margaret Whiting. He was up front with her about his sexuality, and she accepted it. He explains why he married her and why the marriage ultimately worked for both of them, and when you see the movie, you can understand it.

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