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Male Dancers And Strippers At Gay Bars

I recently went to a Gay Bar/Lounge with go-go dancers and strippers. The dancers were dressed in jocks, briefs, and Andrew Christian type unitards. Had a great time. You could "discreetly" cop a feel of their cocks and butts, hug, and caress them. I found one guy really attractive...former high school wrestler/football player. Hugged, caressed, and felt him up. He even let me kiss him...just not "on the lips." He told me he was straight, married, and a personal trainer.

Just wondered...are most male dancers/strippers in gay bars straight? I wouldn't describe this young, attractive man as "gay for pay." It is an act or a performance, and the straight performer can separate himself from what he does for gay men.

by Anonymousreply 121May 13, 2018 3:39 PM

I guess the chippendales dancer who goes home to his husband every night is straight? Straight for pay?

by Anonymousreply 1April 3, 2017 3:13 PM

Yeah they're all straight OP.

They're also straight when they blow you and when they take massive cocks up their asses. So straight....

by Anonymousreply 2April 3, 2017 3:15 PM

I was a go go boy at the Limelight in the late 80s/early 90s. I was certainly gay, but I was just eyecandy. AIDS was still scary back then.

by Anonymousreply 3April 3, 2017 3:18 PM

the ones I see all seem straight, they dote on the girls much more than the guys

by Anonymousreply 4April 3, 2017 3:30 PM

Some are gay, some are straight.

Straight-identifying guys working in the gay world is nothing new, goes back as long as there has been a gay culture. Bartenders, go-go boys, porn stars. Some are gay, some see themselves as straight, many see themselves as not liking labels.

by Anonymousreply 5April 3, 2017 3:35 PM

In Montreal what happens at the gay strip clubs during a private dance? I know you can't get them off but are you allowed to jerk off as they grind?

by Anonymousreply 6April 3, 2017 3:42 PM

Harlots, the lot of them!

by Anonymousreply 7April 3, 2017 3:52 PM

I used to hang out at a bar in Philadelphia called The Post. A dive bar, acrid little hole in the wall that had dancers on the weekends. Most of them were druggies of porn star wannabes. They were run by some dude named Brad - foul smelling queen who thought that BO was supposed to be a turn on. He had a doctor boyfriend who stank just as much as him. Several of the dancers claimed to be straight, but could be had for a price. Their best dancers was this straight black guy Dennis - he'd even bring his bisexual girlfriend in sometimes. He was so hot and had no attitude at all. The were two Irish guys - brothers BION-who stayed tweaked out on meth. Brad dealt drugs too - he was such a dirt bag, and he was shady as the day was long. Other than Dennis, who was beautiful, it was a scratch lot of strippers-some looked like concentration camp survivors. Some were ugly as sin too. It had gotten to the point where we'd go just to make fun of the dirt bag dancers. Except for Dennis, who was creamy!

by Anonymousreply 8April 3, 2017 4:09 PM

A lot of them are indeed straight guys who get off on the adulation and also look down on the desperate old f**s who want to paw them. It can be great extra money for a guy who works as a personal trainer, plus a source of new PT clients.

Female strippers feel the same way about their clients.

by Anonymousreply 9April 3, 2017 4:13 PM

There's a forum dedicated to male strip clubs at the Daddy's Reviews website. All your questions can be answered there.

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by Anonymousreply 10April 3, 2017 4:14 PM

For some reason, I don't get turned on in the least by strippers. I find it all so inane, actually.

by Anonymousreply 11April 3, 2017 4:30 PM

[quote]He even let me kiss him...just not "on the lips."

How sophisticated.

by Anonymousreply 12April 3, 2017 4:39 PM

I also don't get turned on by strippers either. I would never put cash in their underwear. If they had a tip jar, I'd probably throw a few bucks in it though.

by Anonymousreply 13April 3, 2017 4:53 PM

[quote]I would never put cash in their underwear.

You can always just hand it to them.

by Anonymousreply 14April 3, 2017 4:58 PM

The good looking ones are straight, just like in real life.

by Anonymousreply 15April 3, 2017 5:27 PM

[quote]The good looking ones are straight, just like in real life.

At my local gay bar I've gotten to know all the regular go-go dancers and they all identify as gay except the most conventionally hot one, who is straight lol.

by Anonymousreply 16April 3, 2017 5:40 PM

I sometimes attend Secrets in DC where they're all nude all the time. You can tell if a dancer is straight if he gets hard when a woman comes up to him. He'll usually squat down and start feeling her up, and by the time he stands back up he's hard as a rock.

by Anonymousreply 17April 3, 2017 5:53 PM

When Eastern Europeans began moving to North America after the break up of the USSR many women and straight men got jobs as strippers. They needed easy money to pay for living expenses and education so they could advance themselves. Gay clubs were full of straight male strippers.

by Anonymousreply 18April 3, 2017 5:57 PM

The Post was one of the most racist bars in Philadelphia. It didn't close a minute too soon for me. The owner dies from drug and alcohol withdrawal combined with AIDS complications. His hustler boyfriend called 911 and left him dying on his sofa. And the dancers were foul.

by Anonymousreply 19April 3, 2017 6:07 PM

R14 No, silly. You have them pick it out of your mouth with their ass crack!

by Anonymousreply 20April 3, 2017 6:16 PM

My gay friends took their straight female friend to a well known South Jersey gay club (now closed) which featured very hot male strippers. Look story short, one of the strippers was a physical education major at the local university, saw my friends' female friend in the crowd and asked her out. She was hesitant at first because she thought all strippers in gay bars were gay, but he was straight and using the money he made there for school. Fifteen years later and they're still married with two kids and he's a gym teacher at local high school.

by Anonymousreply 21April 3, 2017 6:27 PM

I don't get the appeal of strippers, I always wonder what their mothers think.

by Anonymousreply 22April 3, 2017 6:36 PM

One of the reasons I've been interested in strippers--more hets stealing work from gay men.

by Anonymousreply 23April 3, 2017 6:55 PM

In Dallas, the majority of them were straight. When I took my better looking female friends with me to the strip bars, I would say that 75% or more of the strippers were all over them. One of the hottest came back to my house for drinks after - primarily to hit on one of the those female friends. Not that my friends would ever want to actually date a male stripper who performs in gay strip clubs, but they did generally enjoy the attention. All of these guys would let you grope all over them and credit card swipe them for $1 a time. Pretty fair deal considering that most were gorgeous Adonis types. One huge blond stud wanted me to pull a stemmed cherry out of this asshole with my teeth (while he was doing a handstand no less) - I passed. As hot as he was, I was not so sure about ass to mouthing him. He claimed that after choosing a guy from the crowd to perform a stunt with, he would get a lot more tips. Most of these straight guys get really drunk or high to strip and put up with being molested for the 4 hours or so. I saw a really hot, muscle-bound, brunette white country boy higher than a kite and bent down getting sucked off and having 4 fingers shoved deep up his ass by some sadistic (not that I blame him) older guy - the stripper could barley squat and was stumbling over his words when he spoke. It was the back of the bar so the show went on for quite a while before one of the owners scolded the stripper and dragged him by the arm to the back room -many boooed over that. I never saw him in that particular club again although he just migrated to one down the street.

by Anonymousreply 24April 3, 2017 7:06 PM

Gnnn

by Anonymousreply 25May 2, 2017 4:04 AM

I prefer my dancers/strippers gay, thank you very much

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by Anonymousreply 26May 2, 2017 4:10 AM

This thread is useless without animated cock-bouncing stripper gifs!

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by Anonymousreply 27May 2, 2017 4:33 AM

[quote] For some reason, I don't get turned on in the least by strippers. I find it all so inane, actually.

Same here

by Anonymousreply 28May 2, 2017 4:41 AM

Whether or not you pop wood - you WILL enjoy a young, angel faced, muscled, perfect Adonis clad in next to nothing and letting you touch all over him for a buck or two. Or be cheap and watch the action from 4 feet away. Maybe you guys have just not experienced gorgeous ones. How stupid....it's so inane and stupid...please... I enjoyed strippers when I was 18 yoa and fine as fuck myself. Who does not enjoy them? They are the definition of enjoyable.

by Anonymousreply 29May 2, 2017 4:56 AM

R29 I've seen gorgeous ones. I just find it tacky Even the hottest guy in a g string dancing poorly is a huge turn off.

by Anonymousreply 30May 2, 2017 5:00 AM

R30 - well, I sincerely feel sorry for you. Your high morals are getting you nowhere. He is likely making a really good wage, enjoys his job and is not some poor victim of human trafficking. And also he is likely an exhibitionist who enjoys the attention he is due.

by Anonymousreply 31May 2, 2017 5:11 AM

Yes, OP, they're all straight.

by Anonymousreply 32May 2, 2017 5:53 AM

I walked into a bar one, while waiting for the bartender to serve up my drink, another guy came up to me and saw I was looking at the dancer and said, "he's cute right" I agreed. He then told me to buy that guy a drink and I realized the fucker was the bar manager too cheep to even buy a drink for his staff himself.

by Anonymousreply 33May 2, 2017 6:09 AM

Yeah, I think that the seedy bars and the weird interactions are what turn off guys to that entire scene. Unlike female strippers (where the straight male clientele pay a hefty cover charge to get in and then more and more and more up-charge pricing to "play"), the gay bars who have strippers are typically a no cover and tip as you go type establishment. What feels seedy at first does get easy to navigate once you have patroned a couple of times. Most bar owners do not like their male talent to drink or use drugs all that much from my experience. So the bar that R33 was at must have been particularly seedy. Once the stripper's night is done however - game on.

by Anonymousreply 34May 2, 2017 6:18 AM

Actually R34, the bar was in West Hollywood, NOT the Abby. Would not call it seedy, unless you are talking about owners.

by Anonymousreply 35May 2, 2017 7:00 AM

Can someone tell me where stuff like this happens? Clearly not in the US... anyone recognize where this was?

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by Anonymousreply 36May 4, 2018 3:40 AM

I'm not gay, I'm an ecdysiast!

by Anonymousreply 37May 4, 2018 3:50 AM

R36, that's Mike Pence's rec room.

by Anonymousreply 38May 4, 2018 3:53 AM

Male dancer and strippers

in the big cities = usually gay/ or fake straight acting but really gay (it make more money)

in small cities = usually gay for pay, or just plain straight guys that are opinion minded

by Anonymousreply 39May 4, 2018 3:58 AM

I don’t get the whole idea of being teased - and paying money for it. With absolutely no payoff. Did it in Montreal. Guy danced all up on me. I touched his hard abs. But then I’m just left with a boner, frustrated and worse off than before - go home and whack off. Why? That’s what free porn is for. If I’m paying someone, I want full release. Strippers make no sense to me at all.

by Anonymousreply 40May 4, 2018 4:10 AM

R40 being able to touch these hot guys, feel them, be touched by them... that's something.

Human touch is important to well being.

If you get plenty of that, then fine, you don't get this. But if you don't... this kind of outlet can be a literal life saver.

by Anonymousreply 41May 4, 2018 4:29 AM

We used to have strippers in a gay bar in the Canadian city where I live, both gay and straight. I saw many of them.

One night one of the strippers came up to me and told me that he had a wife and kid to take care of and he would appreciate it if I hired him to do a lap dance for myself. #1. Not good looking. #2. His story completely took away any sexual feelings I might have had. Another young stripper, too thin and not terribly attractive, always wore these ugly black horn rim eyeglasses when he danced. A complete turn-off. He was friendly enough and really trying so I took him aside and told him to take off the fucking glasses, which he did, off and on.

So many men, so many stories...............

by Anonymousreply 42May 4, 2018 4:30 AM

Matthew Camp. former GoGo Boy, let me feels his balls for free one night. I think he was very stoned.

by Anonymousreply 43May 4, 2018 4:41 AM

I was in a Wendy's restaurant one afternoon and saw a really good looking guy there with his girlfriend. He had a tank top on and looked great. I couldn't help but glance at him a number of times.

That night I went to our gay bar where they featured male strippers. After awhile who bounces on stage but the handsome guy from Wendy's, wearing only a G-string and a beautiful bare ass that I could clearly see. Eye candy! When he came close to me I told him I saw him in Wendy's that day and he was really surprised, and I put some money in his G-string and copped a feel of his nice ass. Great time!

by Anonymousreply 44May 4, 2018 4:45 AM

Not strippers here, but I saw sexy male ass in G-strings at bars.

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by Anonymousreply 45May 4, 2018 4:56 AM

R1, All but 1 of the Chippendales dancers in Vegas at one point were gay. Obvious. Met them at a commercial audition. The one that was straight brought his girlfriend along.

Then again they were only kissing the girls on the cheek at the show, very limited physical contact. Heard on good authority they made their real $$$ at private high end parties afterwards.

Other strip shows hire bisexual dancers who offer more than a pretense of sexual expression on stage. Oh, that's right. DL doesn't believe in bisexuality. Not the same as "gay for pay."

by Anonymousreply 46May 4, 2018 5:33 AM

R41 thank you. First logical explanation I’ve heard - and makes sense. I know people are in different experiences and stages in life , so could totally see it if I were in that position.

by Anonymousreply 47May 4, 2018 5:40 AM

The one male stripper I know is so straight that he'll perform in gay saunas. He's immune to the gayness and he makes a living. And he's a close friend of mine, which gives further evidence of how open-minded he is.

by Anonymousreply 48May 4, 2018 6:44 AM

R36 That looks like either europe or brazil.

The last time I saw strippers in Europe must have been about 5 years ago at Circuit Festival in Barcelona or longer at Lovemuscle in London. Hustlaball in Berlin has live sex shows, but thats a bit different.

Apart from that I've not seen them in years in a bar.

by Anonymousreply 49May 4, 2018 8:05 AM

Are hot nude male dancers at gay bars a thing of the past?

Even Swinging Richards closed down its florida branch. Now there's only the Atlanta branch. Is there still any in DC?

by Anonymousreply 50May 4, 2018 2:44 PM

I was at The Cock in the East Village for the first time this summer (got dragged there once more since, sadly) and there were nude strippers next to the bar and live sex shows in the back room. One tweaky, roided out "performer" had on a studded leather cock ring and laid down on the tiny "stage"/coffee table/whatever and a line of creepy guys sat on his hard dick bareback for a few seconds right in a row, one after the other. Probably 4 or 5. No money was exchanged from what I could tell, since he was totally nude and there was no tip jar I could see. It's like a $5 cover charge to get in. This was a Monday night btw. Not hot, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 51May 4, 2018 5:53 PM

The cock is hardcore

The opposite is woody’s in Philly where straight girls from jersey gush over muscle marys dancing in posing straps

by Anonymousreply 52May 4, 2018 5:57 PM

It's a living.

by Anonymousreply 53May 4, 2018 11:22 PM

It’s a hard knock life

by Anonymousreply 54May 5, 2018 11:27 AM

This one gay bar we used to visit would hire strippers that were clearly straight since they would ignore the guys—yet be all over the women in the crowd who wanted nothing to do with them since they were usually lesbians. You had to wonder if they understood the job assignment.

by Anonymousreply 55May 5, 2018 11:51 AM

You want hot and gay? Ricky is a NYC-based gogo boy who is just as gay as you, gentle DLer. For one thing, sometimes he wears socks that say GAY. Literally. He is also very sweet.

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by Anonymousreply 56May 5, 2018 11:59 AM

Former bar manager. Most of the strippers who stuck around for more than a few weeks were straight. The gay ones either wanted to do it as a thrill or quickly figured out it hurt their social standing and bailed. The ones that continued either had substance issues or just plain issues.

I worked with the guy further up, Trey, before he moved to LA. That queen was a MESS. Drugs and self-esteem problems. One of my staff informed me he disappeared on a bender for a few days after arriving in Cali and I can't say I was surprised. Oddly enough, before he became a stripper at age 30, he had literally just graduated with honors in chemical engineering. Kind of like Seth Fornea: go to school and achieve an enviable educational goal, then blow it all off and get fingered for a buck a pop. Makes more sense to me to do it the opposite way, but that's just me.

by Anonymousreply 57May 5, 2018 12:04 PM

Seth is now a “model” hawking lube in Brazil

by Anonymousreply 58May 5, 2018 9:35 PM

He’s also a whore

by Anonymousreply 59May 7, 2018 2:33 AM

So where can you go to see hot naked hard men dancing on stage these days?

by Anonymousreply 60May 7, 2018 2:41 AM

R60 Performers are not attracted to their clients so the matching sexualities don't matter for them.

Do you think those hot female strippers actually like the unattractive men ogling their breasts?

by Anonymousreply 61May 7, 2018 2:45 AM

Meant OP not R60 sorry.

by Anonymousreply 62May 7, 2018 2:45 AM

R36 I think that's Tijuana.

by Anonymousreply 63May 7, 2018 2:54 AM

Thanks to R8 and R19 for reminding me about The Post in Philly. I used to go there and get stoned with a bartender who I had a crush on, until I found out he was into diaper play, bleh.

The grossest part of their tweaky go go boy show was that they served free appetizers. :shudder:

by Anonymousreply 64May 7, 2018 3:08 AM

We serve Guy Fieri's "Nuclear" Hot Wings at many of our fine male stripper establishments.

Only the best for our customers.

by Anonymousreply 65May 7, 2018 5:43 AM

R64, you must have eaten all the free apps as I never saw any

by Anonymousreply 66May 7, 2018 5:02 PM

Is The Post now Stir? I think I was there before it became Stir but never saw strippers. Maybe I was there too early. Philly could use a nice sleazy stripper bar.

by Anonymousreply 67May 7, 2018 5:26 PM

What about NYC bars? I admit it has been ages since I’ve been to a bar in NYC that had proper go-go boys. Most of the gay bars now seem to have the bartenders as scantily clad as dancers/go-go boys used to be anyway. Nice eye candy in many cases, but void of any personality or charm.

I have a good friend who is very into Latinos and remember accompanying him out to Queens a few times to the gay Latin bars. They all had go-go boys dancing who were hot and not opposed to flashing or letting you cop a feel of their chorizo. They were also by and large very nice, charming guys who would have a conversation with you too. I’m smiling remembering a few offers made by these fellows. Gay or straight they always made it clear they’d be down to fuck. Or maybe they just liked this tall, hairy, blonde, white guy lol Wonder if those places still have dancers like that.

by Anonymousreply 68May 7, 2018 6:41 PM

I had a very straight very hot personal trainer who would dance in NYC gay bars back in the early 00’s

Once at the Faultline I chatted up an extremely sexy guy in the crowd because what the fuck - he was actually quite nice & we hung for awhile. Turns out it was Matthew Camp - I think he was just charmed that I had absolutely no idea who he was.

by Anonymousreply 69May 7, 2018 7:15 PM

Go to The Cock, R68. Everything and anything you want is on offer every night (usually for free, $5 cover charge not included).

Just bring bleach.

And PrEP.

by Anonymousreply 70May 7, 2018 9:00 PM

I used to work at a bar that often had strippers and had shirtless bartenders and at times, the mix was 50/50 gay/straight.

It's a job for some of these guys. I'm sure one could argue that they're not totally straight, and maybe they must be fluid or bi to sleep with a guy. But for some of them, nice as they were, they were there to sell time with their chiseled/muscular body and/or their giant cocks.

by Anonymousreply 71May 7, 2018 9:03 PM

Im so surprised that these places still exist.

I cant imagine them anywhere in the UK, except for a special Saturday nighter in London.

by Anonymousreply 72May 8, 2018 3:25 PM

For a long time, bartenders and strippers in gay bars all claimed to be straight whether they were or not because it allowed them to flirt for tips, but reduced some of the harassment. Also, as the DL regularly proves, there is a strange allure that straight men have for gay men.

by Anonymousreply 73May 8, 2018 4:03 PM

They face slaps

by Anonymousreply 74May 8, 2018 4:32 PM

r72 I went to London last year and was surprised that nothing like that exists there. I figured London was exactly the type of city where something like that would thrive.

by Anonymousreply 75May 8, 2018 7:39 PM

R75, I agree. It's the other capital of the world, but it's super uptight in that way.

That said, only in the UK can you see Paddy O'Brian!!!

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by Anonymousreply 76May 8, 2018 7:43 PM

So where do all of those strippers in the British HornyModelBoys videos perform?

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by Anonymousreply 77May 8, 2018 7:50 PM

R77 Thats a very old video. Chris Geary used to film at Lovemuscle in the early 00 where there definitely was go go boys and strippers, but that was back in the day

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by Anonymousreply 78May 8, 2018 10:55 PM

London I found to be kinky but super hard to get laid in.

Chicago is easier

by Anonymousreply 79May 9, 2018 12:02 AM

R79 I dont know about Chicago, but London is very easy to get laid.

What was your specific issue?

I've never had any trouble getting fucked and I'm a 3/10 on the fugly scale.

by Anonymousreply 80May 9, 2018 12:02 PM

My experience is that even dancers at women's events tend to be gay. Check Henry Licett, for example.

by Anonymousreply 81May 9, 2018 12:04 PM

Private dancer

by Anonymousreply 82May 10, 2018 4:34 AM

A dancer for money? R82

by Anonymousreply 83May 10, 2018 1:58 PM

Indeed, they do it all for the dough

by Anonymousreply 84May 10, 2018 2:21 PM

Any Sean Cody models dancing these days?

by Anonymousreply 85May 10, 2018 2:24 PM

Straight men can make more dancing for women.

Straight men will not get groped for a single.

Not one, not ever is, was, or has been straight.

by Anonymousreply 86May 10, 2018 2:32 PM

Straight to bed

by Anonymousreply 87May 10, 2018 4:24 PM

R81 - is he that Venezuelan guy, has tons of pics -most showing his big bulge in speedos or undies - all over IG and other sites? He’s gay? I thought he was very vocal about loving las mujeres, no?

by Anonymousreply 88May 10, 2018 4:59 PM

Henry Licett charges $50/month for his OnlyFans. WOW.

by Anonymousreply 89May 10, 2018 5:04 PM

r88 LOL, check the list of people he follows on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. On Instagram, he even follows gay porn actors such as François Sagat and most other follows are all shirtless fit gay guys.

He might say he's straight but he's 900% gay.

by Anonymousreply 90May 10, 2018 5:31 PM

So Henry Licett lives in the US now? How is he surviving in Venezuela if he's still there?

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by Anonymousreply 91May 10, 2018 5:37 PM

69- Matthew Camp spoke to you and he didn't charge? The man would sell his bowel movements.

by Anonymousreply 92May 10, 2018 5:37 PM

Any good ones in Houston TX?

by Anonymousreply 93May 10, 2018 6:14 PM

r36 Dancer on the right is breathtaking.

by Anonymousreply 94May 10, 2018 6:37 PM

Yeah, R94, and I'd still love to know when and where that video was made.

by Anonymousreply 95May 11, 2018 12:02 AM

Mars

by Anonymousreply 96May 11, 2018 2:56 AM

I remember pre-Stonewall adverts in NYC papers inviting one to live sex shows in certain porn cinemas. Why does liberation bring mainstreamism as well?

by Anonymousreply 97May 11, 2018 6:10 AM

From what I've seen and experienced, it seems to me a good majority of them are straight. If a straight guy is good looking with a good body, it's an easy job for good money. A lot of them do it to put themselves through school.

by Anonymousreply 98May 11, 2018 12:07 PM

They need to get the cash

by Anonymousreply 99May 11, 2018 1:08 PM

I've been to stripper clubs with female performers and male performers.

I preferred the places with female strippers. They seemed empowered and were more attractive (generally), the male strippers seemed more desperate (as did their audiences.). Also female strip bars were more fun; I visited them with female and male friends and we'd have a good time and put dollars in their g-strings. I didn't want to touch the male strippers, they were less likely to bathe than female strippers.

by Anonymousreply 100May 11, 2018 1:18 PM

R100 you are a tortillera

by Anonymousreply 101May 11, 2018 1:30 PM

Anyone know if The Immortal TMs are still around?

They had a segment on HBO's Real Sex years ago and those guys were fine as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 102May 11, 2018 1:48 PM

R101 I'm a Latina lesbian? I like dick too much, maybe a I'm Kinsey cuatro?

by Anonymousreply 103May 11, 2018 2:19 PM

Straight male strippers don't wipe their asses properly.

by Anonymousreply 104May 11, 2018 2:45 PM

Straight dancers who are gay for pay are better IMO. Way back in the 90's I was smitten with go go boy Mark Allen in NYC, who was everywhere. I never saw him speak, but then I saw him on TV and he was so animated and gay-acting. Huge turn-off. Ever since I always gravitated to the straight ones, like Tracy James. (Any old NYC queens remember him?)

by Anonymousreply 105May 11, 2018 3:07 PM

[quote]Straight male strippers don't wipe their asses properly.

Sounds like someone still has a bad taste in his mouth.

by Anonymousreply 106May 11, 2018 3:08 PM

R103 yes typical sexual parasitism displayed by people attracted to the opposite sex.

by Anonymousreply 107May 11, 2018 3:21 PM

R86 - actually, you are wrong on all fronts. Women do not tip as a rule and basically always expect adulation and attention for free. VERY few paying (much less well-paying) jobs exist that consist of a woman paying for a man to do anything remotely sexual. Outside of the tiny handful of male stripper acts that we all know of, there is little to no work for a male for female stripper. So we are talking about less than 100 jobs in the entire country. Clearly you are deluded. Women expect to pay for their clothing, hair, nails, etc. and in turn expect for men to buy them dinner, drinks, cover charges, theater tickets, etc, etc, etc. Women do NOT tip men - even the fat or ugly ones next to never do so and are conditioned to think that they never should. Fine as fuck straight men will sleep with much uglier women when desperate (which is often) and particularly if the women will give them anal or hours of head. This is a fact that is pretty well known. I would guess that 75% of the male strippers that I have encountered were straight. They are usually not engaged sexually, but will let you grab their ass or cock, credit card swipe them, fondle their balls - whatever is your pleasure for a buck or two. Within an hour's time, that turns into $200 plus (some guys tip more than $1). They perform for 4 to 5 hours and that turns into a tax free, under the table $1000 for just showing off what they want everyone to notice at the gym anyway. Most are "starving" personal trainers anyway and would prefer to fuck off all day, pump some iron and later make a chunk of change for a few hours "dancing" (they usually can't dance, just bend over and spin around LOL) a few nights a week. I have known plenty (in Dallas and a few in LA also) and most ARE straight, only into the female friends that occasionally go out with us and enjoy the attention and "worship" that they receive from both men and women. If a "John" gets too fresh, they will usually just push him away (they certainly are strong enough to defend themselves). Many guys tip them $5's and even if they only get $1's all night - they leave with close to a grand for doing nothing more than showing off their body and ass. If you are sexy, muscular and have no issue showing off - it is very easy money. None of their straight bros will ever see them at the gay clubs, so it is also somewhat anonymous. Win win for the hot, dumb straight meat head..

by Anonymousreply 108May 12, 2018 5:08 AM

R105 - Gee, a self-loathing aged homosexual. On DataLounge?

by Anonymousreply 109May 12, 2018 5:37 AM

R108 what's credit card swiping?

by Anonymousreply 110May 12, 2018 5:51 AM

R110 - To quote the Urban Dictionary:

"When you take your hand and swish it upward (or downward) someone's ass crack to cause them to jump. In a credit card swiping motion."

You feel up his ass, plunge into his crack and then rub your fingers over his hole..

by Anonymousreply 111May 12, 2018 5:57 AM

I prefer slapping his face

by Anonymousreply 112May 12, 2018 11:05 AM

R108

Actually you are wrong on all points.

Stripper agencies are desperate for men to strip at parties.

They often get 200 or more just for showing up.

A straight stripper will not let you grab their dick for a buck, a gay one will.

I did it for both crowds when younger and man alive I made a fortune at women parties and hated the gropey men.

Woman tip 20's without groping.

by Anonymousreply 113May 12, 2018 3:02 PM

That's because women are stupid. Men expect to get value for their money, and the grope IS THE WHOLE POINT, I mean, why bother if you can't touch and feel?

by Anonymousreply 114May 12, 2018 3:32 PM

R113- I trust you and I only know Dallas and Los Angeles. I am acquaintances with a ton of male strippers through the gym, and via other venues and they say that women don't tip for shit. Ever. Also, the few that ever worked the parties made almost nothing for the gig and were expected to make that up in tips. As most of these parties only have 8 to 15 people...well, do the math. They pull $1000 easy for 4 ours a night at a gay club.

by Anonymousreply 115May 12, 2018 4:02 PM

More male strippers, if you please.

by Anonymousreply 116May 12, 2018 4:05 PM

The mayority of the straight strippers that I have known are all bisexuals in the closet who hate affeminate men. No straight men go to gay clubs to strip unless they are starving.

by Anonymousreply 117May 12, 2018 4:05 PM

I'm gay and danced in a gay club in Phoenix in 2002. The majority of dancers/entertainers were straight. Their wives/girlfriends were more comfortable having them perform for men rather than do the Chippendale's shit. They were all very comfortable and I really didn't get a gay vibe from any of them. It was a job and they needed the money. I even oil wrestled with a few of them and they were totally cool.

by Anonymousreply 118May 12, 2018 4:18 PM

They hide their real sexual inclinations behind that "coolness" and "open mindedness".

by Anonymousreply 119May 12, 2018 4:24 PM

I guess it's because I'm old, but I am always shocked when women show up in a raunchy venue like the Nob Hill Theater, where they actually have male-male live sex shows on stage, audience circle jerks, etc. What's next -- women in bathhouses?

by Anonymousreply 120May 12, 2018 6:26 PM

Bathhouses are very rare

by Anonymousreply 121May 13, 2018 3:39 PM
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