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What did Satan actually do that was so fucking terrible?

It seems to me that God's the one actually actively hurting people on a whim while Satan punishes those who actively harm others. Satan never killed anyone.

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by Anonymousreply 37December 12, 2018 6:13 AM

Uhhhh Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the begining and the father of lies..... but now he has his Fox TV series

by Anonymousreply 1April 2, 2017 5:29 AM

You might want to read the Bible yourself some day. Reading articles about what people think is in the Bible is like having MSNBC as your main source of news.

by Anonymousreply 2April 2, 2017 5:33 AM

Christopher Hitchens is just rotting in the ground, R2, and so will all of us after we die. But even by the standards of the Bible, God is a murderer. He commits genocide as if it was nothing.

by Anonymousreply 3April 2, 2017 5:53 AM

God is the definition of Good. If he kills, we call it justice.

by Anonymousreply 4April 2, 2017 6:02 AM

Well, he is the Big Bad Boss of the Illumnati. He even outranks Empress Bey!

by Anonymousreply 5April 2, 2017 6:03 AM

Wasn't Satan's sin ultimately "Pride"? Also, he's the master of lies and deception. Reminds me of someone in the news lately.

by Anonymousreply 6April 2, 2017 6:04 AM

Personally I always liked this myth. From Bill Moyers incredible interviews with Joseph Campbell - which ironically cemented my atheism.

[quote] BILL MOYERS: And yet, one of my favorite stories of mythology is out of Persia, where there is the idea that Lucifer was condemned to hell because he loved God so much.

JOSEPH CAMPBELL: Yeah, and that’s a basic Muslim idea, about Iblis, that’s the Muslim name for Satan, being God’s greatest lover. Why was Satan thrown into hell? Well, the standard Story is that when God created the angels, he told them to bow to none but himself. Then he created man, whom he regarded as a higher form than the angels, and he asked the angels then to serve man. And Satan would not bow to man. Now, this is interpreted in the Christian tradition, as I recall from my boyhood instruction, as being the egotism of Satan, he would not bow to man. But in this view, he could not bow to man, because of his love for God, he could bow only to God. And then God says, “Get out of my sight.” Now, the worst of the pains of hell insofar as hell has been described is the absence of the beloved, which is God. So how does Iblis sustain the situation in hell? By the memory of the echo of God’s voice when God said, “Go to hell.” And I think that’s a great sign of love, do you agree?

BILL MOYERS: Well, it’s certainly true in life that the greatest hell one can know is to be separated from the one you love.

JOSEPH CAMPBELL: Yeah.

BILL MOYERS: That’s why I’ve liked the Persian myth for so long. Satan as God’s lover.

JOSEPH CAMPBELL: Yeah. And he is separated from God, and that’s the real pain of Satan.

by Anonymousreply 7April 2, 2017 6:11 AM

So God is the abusive narcissistic single parent, Lucifer the child and man the oblivious new boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 8April 2, 2017 6:17 AM

Religion perverts the mind. What did Satan do? Whatever his creator could come up with to make Satan the bad guy in this ancient tale in order to trap his captive audience (what other entertainment did they have back then anyway?) in a frightful state of mind.

by Anonymousreply 9April 2, 2017 6:18 AM

Yes, R8, and the boyfriend's got a pit bull.

by Anonymousreply 10April 2, 2017 6:21 AM

Nothing.

by Anonymousreply 11December 10, 2018 4:43 PM

Satan / Lucifer is as real as any fictional character on TV.

Depending which reboot / version you like best you get different versions of Satan's / Lucifer's origin story.

by Anonymousreply 12December 10, 2018 4:49 PM

Bible stories are funny. People who believe even a sliver of that stuff crack me up.

by Anonymousreply 13December 10, 2018 5:02 PM

you must be talking about the mote in your eye then

by Anonymousreply 14December 10, 2018 5:04 PM

Heck, if you don't worship God, you're going to Hell.

Yes, God is THAT power hungry

by Anonymousreply 15December 10, 2018 5:07 PM

The Bible is only “The Good Book” if you believe totalitarian behavior isn’t problematic

by Anonymousreply 16December 10, 2018 5:09 PM

Satan is a cooperating witness for the prosecution and he's consistently dressed in Burnt Orange.

by Anonymousreply 17December 10, 2018 5:10 PM

Satan got people to believe that you can't wear white after Labor Day.

by Anonymousreply 18December 10, 2018 5:16 PM

Y'all are a regular Algonquin round-table here.

by Anonymousreply 19December 10, 2018 6:40 PM

The Bible is fiction. There is more truth in graphic novels than in the Bible, because graphic novels had fewer revisions (as in reboots) than the Bible.

by Anonymousreply 20December 10, 2018 6:45 PM

There is no satan. It’s a construct of man to terrify the simpleminded into believing what they are told to believe.

by Anonymousreply 21December 10, 2018 8:17 PM

God=Coke, Satan=Pepsi. Coke is way more popular, but Pepsi is basically the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 22December 10, 2018 8:28 PM

Satan is the most famous boogeyman there is. "Behave and obey or Satan is going to get you!"

by Anonymousreply 23December 10, 2018 8:29 PM

He shared knowledge with humans. We're supposed to be ignorant and obedient to God for, uh, some reason. You're supposed to be afraid of God because he's powerful and he can smite you; he usually comes across as kind of a megalomaniacal dick.

by Anonymousreply 24December 10, 2018 8:56 PM

R7 Kevin Smith swiped that to create his character Bartleby (Ben Affleck) in DOGMA.

One speech Bartleby gives to fellow angel Loki (Matt Damon) in a parking lot runs down these feelings. Bartleby is angered by human arrogance, that they refuse to acknowledge God’s existence much less adore him like Bartleby and the angels do.

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by Anonymousreply 25December 10, 2018 9:26 PM

He spawned Trump and the deplorables.

by Anonymousreply 26December 10, 2018 9:30 PM

Satan ❤️️❤️️❤️️

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by Anonymousreply 27December 10, 2018 9:45 PM

He simply wanted “special” attention from God...he felt he deserved it because he loved God more than God’s other creations.

by Anonymousreply 28December 10, 2018 9:51 PM

So Satan was the original special snowflake?

by Anonymousreply 29December 10, 2018 9:56 PM

Founded Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 30December 10, 2018 10:00 PM

I prefer Satan. He seems nicer.

by Anonymousreply 31December 10, 2018 10:10 PM

I’m not sure why “he’s not real” is the most common response in this thread, given that Satan’s reality or lack thereof is irrelevant to OP’s question.

OP: why are we supposed to think that Magneto is evil, when he’s just trying to protect his species from a majority that’s actively trying to destroy them?

Very Intelligent DLers: haha Magneto isn’t real he’s a fictional character haha I am Very Smart.

by Anonymousreply 32December 10, 2018 10:27 PM

R32 thinks he's smart because he watches "The Big Bang Theory" and thinks it's funny.

by Anonymousreply 33December 10, 2018 10:59 PM

I don’t know her, OP. Or any of these other sand-person deathcult prophets & deities.

Come back when you want to talk about my esteemed Lord of Waters and Catcher in the Mists; or my fearsome Lady Flower-Face; or my lovely Fish Prince of Waves.

by Anonymousreply 34December 11, 2018 8:31 AM

God is a fucking psycho. Needs to be kicked in the balls.

by Anonymousreply 35December 11, 2018 8:53 AM

So the Persians didn't have a problem with God and Satan being in a gay relationship?

How times have changed in Iran...

by Anonymousreply 36December 11, 2018 10:37 AM

Nothing

by Anonymousreply 37December 12, 2018 6:13 AM
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