How Can I Get Rid Of My GAY Voice?

Yes, you can, OP. Try talking more from the back of your throat, it deepens your voice. And just start by imitating a deep masculine voice. Eventually, if you do it enough it will start to become second nature to do it without trying.

It never hurt me.

[quote]I read once that Rock Hudson had gay voice when he was a truck driver and got rid of it.

I read he went to the woods and screamed and shouted... on and on and on...and it broke it down.

Probably won't do you any good, OP. Rock Hudson was also able to pass his NCLEX on the first go around... he wasn't a failure who had to take it 3 times.

R1, that's a good idea. I can feel and hear a difference.

Heterosexual men also speak more declaratively - for example, don't talk with a lot of umms, y'knows, likes, etc. or looking for others agreement. Also, don't speak with an uptick at the end like you're asking a question.

Lastly, don't stretch out your vowels or words unnecessarily. Ohmygod becomes Oh myyyy Gaaahhd, and sounds more gay - depending on the situation.

[quote]I think I have a deep nasal quality to my voice and I'd like to get rid of it.

Post us a sample, OP >>>

Speak in a monotonous and expressionless way.

Pattern your intonations after Ross Matthews.

It would be so hard to remember all of this.

Butch it up, Mary!

Try singing along with Karen Carpenter, OP. That'll make you sound nice and butch.

Pretend you're a lesbian.

Stop it! Stop it now!

My voice sounds less 'gay', if I think/act/feel more 'dominantly', and less 'submissively' around people. That's where I think all femininity stems from, feeling like you have to be subservient around people. Probably from a domineering, angry, castrating mother, during early childhood.

Never use "s's".

Here is a good article on what's it means to be masculine. It seems corny, but alot of it is really true. Maybe by attempting to 'think' more like a masculine man, it will ease the sound of 'gay voice'. Although accepting ones own feminity is perfectly acceptable as well, youre already perfectly good just the way you are :), But its interesting to think about things from many different perspectives somtimes.

Never had an issue with it, but I figure it's got to be like any sort of regional or foreign accent. Should be easy enough to lose.

Though gay voice is often accompanied by gay mannerisms.

Do you hold yourself like a woman, OP, you know, cross your legs like a girl, flounce your arms and all that?

Good April Fools R17!

R16, you are funny and accurate. An old highschool creative writer teacher taught me to stay away from the s's in writing as an element of style.

I wish I could come up with an example now but can't. Will try later.

R17, much of what is written in the article is good information---but a lot of it seems like something a Christian Youtube channel would post. But I appreciate it, I do.

Ross Mathews voice is the most irritating thing ever!

R22 - and most people would be right in presuming that Ross Mathews should not be in a leadership position - just like what the research results were.

OP you have to stop saying Mary! after every other sentence.

Ugh, I watched that stupid show in OP's link.

That guy was an idiot, truly. His voice was so affected, and he sounded exactly the same at the end of the show after all that "work".

He didnt even try. He could have easily stopped if he wanted to. But no, he needed MORE ATTENTION!!! LOOK AT ME, EVERYONE!!

I liked his film. I liked a lot of the gays he interviewed - they seemed very smiley and nice (I know this is a VERY UN-DL thing to say).

But I agree - his attempts to change his voice were pathetic.

(This >>> smiley gay was actually from another 'gayvoice' short film shot in Toronto).

If you say the word "No" out loud, that is usually the deepest register of your voice, and you can start to speak from that point.

deep nasal quality = gay voice?

Go to a speech coach. Actors use them all the time to perfect an accent.

Are you sure you're not speaking in a mincing perhaps feminine lisping type of way, OP? I don't think it's just the tone of the voice because I've heard people talk in a lower register but the lisping manner with which they speak gives them away.

Make recordings of yourself speaking. Watch them. Practice. That's how I did it. Most people have zero idea that I'm gay until I tell them.

Yes we do R31.

I like it as a shortcut way of letting people know I'm gay. I hate all the 'Is he or isn't he?' Nancy Drew detective work fraus engage in.

I'd know you anywhere R33.

It's not entirely a deep voice. Harvey Fierstein has a very derp voice but just sounds like a tranny with a cold.

rent my Oscar winning performance in The Iron Lady (win #3 BTW)

Margaret Thatcher had the same problem with nasal pitchiness.

There is a scene where a voice teacher shows her how to speak better.

But seriously, I am from a generation of gay men who went through lots of job discrimination. I am sure I was dropped from consideration at three major jobs because of prejudice. In one case an insider called me up and told me so. So Iike other gay men of my generation I worked extra hard to get ahead, taking on more responsibilities than my straight colleagues to make myself indispensable. It worked but as I approach retirement I realize how tiring it was and how I could have made more money and had a more fulfilling career if not for discrimination. It's not gay voice per se, it's dislike of gays.

Yeah, I believe everything about this study. The truth is that gay men are looked down upon, and having a gay voice or presenting in a feminine way doesn't help at all. I work in media in NYC. I do production and journalism on both sides of the camera. I'm openly gay and make no bones about that, but I present in a very masculine way, and in work environments I mostly have male friends. I'm also very wary of spending too much time with straight girls who like to tokenize gay men. It affects the bottom line, and it's something we need to watch out for. Fashion queens and hairstylists can be as femmy as they want, but for the rest of us it really can hurt our career.

[quote]don't stretch out your vowels

This may be the single most important bit of advice.

[quote]But seriously, I am from a generation of gay men who went through lots of job discrimination. I am sure I was dropped from consideration at three major jobs because of prejudice. In one case an insider called me up and told me so.

I had a creative director at an ad agency tell me "I don't hire people like you." When I asked him what he meant, he said "homosexuals." He was an ex-Marine, for whatever that's worth. This was in 1978. In Los Angeles of all places. I guess it's better for me that he didn't hire me, but how many didn't hire me for that reason without saying why?

I'd say 1 out of every 10 gay guys I meet does not have any "gay voice" inflections--voice and mannerisms, and that about 1 out of every 5 are "flames from space" gay with very extreme gay voice and mannerisms. The rest are somewhere in between.

It's definitely a workplace issue--whether it should be or not is another matter, but men with extreme gay voice do make some people very uncomfortable, the same way people with strong regional/ethnic accents do.

All that said, the person with the most extreme gay voice and mannerisms I've ever met was married to a woman and frequently talked about his visits to strip clubs. Hello overcompensation. (Though it was so extreme, even the older straight guys figured that one out.)

[quote]I'd say 1 out of every 10 gay guys I meet does not have any "gay voice" inflections--voice and mannerisms, and that about 1 out of every 5 are "flames from space" gay with very extreme gay voice and mannerisms. The rest are somewhere in between.

& where do YOU fall into that little equation, gurl?

[quote]Are you sure you're not speaking in a mincing perhaps feminine lisping type of way, OP?

I don't lisp, but you'd know I'm gay. Does lisping have a new, more modern meaning nowadays? It uthed to thimply mean you thaid "s"es like "th"es.

So many married men with kids at my work sound pretty gay, so I don't really worry about how I sound.

R40, in my case it was a sympathetic insider who disagreed with the decision.

I will support someone's else's advice: in this day and age, I don't think they really care if you're GAY or not (and probably most would be down for a discreet BJ). They just don't want you to be feminine. Don't socialize or hang out with women. Don't go out to lunch with "the girls" or let the fraus tokenize you (because they want to do that to put you in their place, i.e. beneath them). Socialize with guys and if you're not into supports, talk about TV or something else. But don't chat about the Kardashians with Ginny from billing.

Definitely do not talk about athletic supports around straight men.

[quote] & where do YOU fall into that little equation, gurl?

R42 clearly one of the 1 in 5

The bizarre feminization thing--calling each other "toots" and "gurl" and whatnot is such a blatant self-hatred marker. It's not like black people calling each other the n-word, because it's often used as a way to "remind" other gay men that they are "less than" as well.

Does r48 make anyone else roll his eyes and stage whisper "get [bold]her[/bold]"?

[quote]The bizarre feminization thing--calling each other "toots" and "gurl" and whatnot is such a blatant self-hatred marker.

Not really - it's just light hearted banter.

Which is what you need to do - lighten up. It's what's always gotten us through.

The story about Rock Hudson was told in a documentary by one of his old friends. I remembered because I also wanted to deepen my voice. The friend said that Roy waited until he had caught a cold -- a time when your voice is already deeper than usual. Then he went out into the wilderness and yelled at the top of his lungs. I've never heard about this kind of thing anywhere else, so no confirmation from any other sources on whether this is a real thing or not.

[quote]Then he went out into the wilderness and yelled at the top of his lungs. I've never heard about this kind of thing anywhere else, so no confirmation from any other sources on whether this is a real thing or not.

You can do the same thing in your car on the freeway. Just turn up the music and HOWL!

I read Linda Evans did the screaming in the woods thing, too.

If you've ever heard her voice when young compared to Dynasty, I'd believe it.

Also, start hanging with guys with masculine voices. We start adopting the mannerisms of those with whom we associate. Additionally, remember it's not just the tenor of your voice, but also the words and expressions you use. If you're talking about football, it's hard to talk effeminate.

It's good and sound advice to limit your female friendships. People look down on males who are more comfortable with women as friends than with males

[quote]If you're talking about football, it's hard to talk effeminate.

But you have to talk about football. Effeminate, 1. Assholes like you, 0.

Good advice from R6. A lot of gay men, I've noticed, particularly young ones emulate the speech patterns of teenage girls: drawing out vowels, uptalking, too many "likes," whiny, speaking with hesitancy rather than with assurance, speaking fast and excitedly, etc. Do the opposite of that. Speak with a calm, measured, confident voice. And learn to speak from your diaphragm. Take a deep breath, then speak as you exhale. Your words will come out with more force and keeps you from sounding too nasally.

Hang around mainstream masculine dudes

For God's sake, do you want people to know you're gay?! HIDE, HIDE IT BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

Bros, hang out with bros only.

Put out ad to meet a Masc4masc Dudebro

Many guys have gay voices because they primarily socialize with [italic]other[/italic] guys with gay voices. It's a fact that many closeted gays don't sound gay until they come out, and subsequently begin making friends with guys who speak in the gay vernacular and its tone. They inadvertently mimic their new friends' speech pattern, and subconsciously adopt it as their own.

I agree that a vocal coach can train you to speak in a masculine way, particularly if dropping your gay sounding friends isn't a desirable option for you, and if hanging with straight sounding men seems equally undesirable or unattainable.

Gay voice does seem to be an affected accent (like the boys' in the posted video), but if you're having a good time with good friends, and also loving your life, then maybe you simply shouldn't not give a damn about your voice, and just confidently speak like the gay man you actually are.

I always had "gay" voice without mannerisms. I was born in cuba and the spanish there is quite strong,I've never been able to sound masculine in cuban spanish but around dominicans, puerto ricans or mexicans my voice is perceived as a little bit more masculine.

I know many knowledgeable scientists on this subject, one of them is swedish guy who studies sexual arousal etc with MRI's and also male pitch patterns by using spectral displays of speech waveforms that can be decomposed into simpler component wave forms. In this way physical scientists can study the vocal register of males and it turns out that gay voice is related to a specific frequency measure in Hertz characteristic of a speech pattern known as falsetto. the rate of repetition of this pattern is known as fundamental frequency,and that frequency is different in masculine voices and effeminate ones, and pitch is the way that we perceive these fundamental frequencies.

The reason way there is confusion is because we are using a nomenclature system created by psychologists and not by neuro physicists. According to psychical scientists, affeminazation occurs because of absorption of what is called morphological psychometric functions that carry information to the brain. These functions are different in each gender because both genders have dissimilar "morphologies". What the powerful psychology departments won't tell you is that what they call male heterosexuality is actually a form of effeminacy, as much as gay voice. These conditions occurs in the brain of males when they are sensitive to the "morphological psychometric functions "emitted" by the contrary female sex, thus transferring morphological information from one sex to the other. Obviously this is a very simplistic explanation but you get the point.

In fact,neither heterosexuality nor gay voice would happen if the exposure to females is eliminated, because the female sex is what nuerophysicists call an "agent or a vector". and people with sensitive neural networks toward these "morphologies" have the tendency to retrieve and absorb more information from the opposite sex than those with masculinized brains. Psychology wants us to believe that sexual attraction to a contrary, morphologically distinct sexual group is a form of masculinization. and that interchanging our masculine body parts (morphologies) with people of an opposite feminine morphological condition is truly a masculine behavior, when they know plenty well that it isn't because computational neurophysics does not agree with their fabricated philosophical theories. Mathematically speaking,when the input stimuli does not equal the output sensory stimuli in a couple,you know that something very crappy is going on. Do not buy any of the concepts given by psychologists and so called social "scientists regarding "sexuality"!!!!!

These theories are the reason why sexual arousal is label as homosexuality and heterosexuality, and concepts such as "sexual attraction" or "sexual orientation" are commonly used instead. Physicists don't like these terms and they prefer the term arousal because arousal implies an inherent neural response of the brain ,whereas sexual attraction or orientation is more of an emotional preference based upon a like or dislike feeling of a person, which are dependent more on nurture and environmental factors than on the neurophysiology of the brain. Exgay therapists love these psychology fabricated terms because these terms overlook the neurological causes of arousal,which is something that we do not choose, since it is impossible to control the way our neurons function when absorbing sexual stimuli.

[quote]don't stretch out your vowels

But then I'll never be able to take a big dick!

Speech therapists would agree that you clip your vowels and that makes you sound less effeminate. Vocal pitch and tone have little to do with it. Faaaaabulous? Fabulous, although it lacks the meaning of the first version.

[quote]Hang around mainstream masculine dudes

Send him over! We'll hang.

I wouldn't know...damn youtube

If you read music, then I'm going to give some advice in musical terms: 1. you're looking to change the timbre of your voice, not necessarily the pitch (don't believe me? Go watch Harrison Ford on Jimmy Kimmel. His fundamental changes by a full 5th when he speaks, getting into that baritone/tenor range at times. Still doesn't have "gay voice" when he does it.) 2. Screaming therapy will probably give you vocal nodules, which means you've succeeded if you want to give a rip-roaring rendition of "Total Eclipse of the Heart" and sound exactly like Bonnie Tyler. Also, surgery could be in your future with this option so I'd advise perhaps some less dramatic way to make your pitch and timbre more pleasing to yourself. 3. If you DO want to change your pitch and timbre, you're going to want to relax the throat. Higher pitches are the result of longer and thinner vocal folds (you'll call them cords; they're not. The technical term is "folds" and they're made of the same stuff as the cartilage-type stuff that is at the bottom of your earlobe). Longer, thinner folds are created by moving the thyroid, cricoid, and arytenoids around to stretch out the vocal folds. You want to do as little of that as possible to move your fundamental frequency lower, should you choose that. You're aiming for D3, in my opinion (for what that's worth). Don't aim for James Earl Jones--his physiology is going to make his vocal folds thicker than yours to start with. 4. Speaking of thickness--that's another way to change timbre, so relax that throat with easy onset breathing to start phonation. That will make the vocal folds thicker--it will help. 5. Absolutely second listening to yourself and then identifying what you dislike and listening to other people. 6. Shortening vowels is not a bad idea on the whole, but simultaneously you want to slow your rate of speech. Go watch YouTube videos of Walter Cronkite, and I'm serious (Peter Jennings, too). Faster rate of speech is associated with femininity, so if you're looking to get rid of that, go for that laconic way of speaking that Jennings was a genius at.

I haven't taken the time to fully analyze what people call "gay voice" but a cursory listen makes me think that some "gay voice" has to do with adding a continuous "breathiness" and sustained timbre--think the female teacher who would sing-song say "People!" to get the class to attention. Timbre in the vocal tract is changed through a variety of things, most notably to do with what you do with your soft palate, but there are others.

Last bit of advice: go watch impressionists. They make their voices do wildly different things. My current favorite is Ross Marquand, and find one of his videos where he does both Harrison Ford and Justin Timberlake--and then hear the difference that he makes. Because the same man can make both of those men sound fairly authentic...you can, too.

Avoid saying "fabulous" at all.

One of the downsides of hanging with bros/straight guys in order to emulate their speaking and mannerisms is that the topics of conversation are so limited and dull that you can feel your brain settling and turning into gray matter. Generally bigoted/homophobic insults, sports and chicks.

Try watching youtube videos of FTMs training their voices.

I definitely agree with R70 - you don't have to hang out with 'bros' - in most professional environments there's a smaller group of straight guys who are cooler and easier to hang with. Ugh, bros.

Shut up.......and burp a lot...

there are also what is called nonverbal vocalizations that include yawning, laughing and even coughing so it is just not the verbal speech that is difficult to change.

Relaxing your throat...umm, now could that serve another purpose?

R70 - Don't forget cars. Perhaps my own interest in cars, and associations with a lot of straight guys also interested in cars has prevented me from picking up 'gay voice'. I do however, dislike hearing my own voice, as it is so monotone.

[quote][R70] - Don't forget cars. Perhaps my own interest in cars, and associations with a lot of straight guys also interested in cars has prevented me from picking up 'gay voice'.

I can talk with them about cars too - but I can't keep talking about them for AS LONG as they do.

My mind starts to wander and I get a headache.

Bbhg

Do I Sound Gay?

This guy talks about his anxiety about his gay voice, and his attempt to address.

I just realized that the article including in op's post references the documentary in my post.

I feel sorry for people who have girly or effeminate voices and want to change them. It must impact their self-esteem

R62 FTW-- great response

I think R6 and R15 hit on the same thing: confidence. People with gay voice sound wishy-washy and unsure of themselves, which makes me think it's more a result of your state of mind and how you view yourself.

Thanks R79 for the link. Tim Gun, David Sedaris, Don Lemon and others all talk about how they have struggled with how they sound. I think gay voice should come out of the closet. It's a worthwhile subject. People can tell I am gay but they don't turn their heads when I speak. That's how I gage my level of gay voice. I made a conscious effort to change and slow down my sound in my early twenties and it worked. But there are still inflections and times when I speak anxiously or too fast. Few people are in love with the sound of their voice but it helps when others like you and hurts when people mock you. You hear less and less extreme gay voice which indicates that a lot of it is sub-culture herd mentality and the tendency in youth to identify more with young women than men. It's nothing to be ashamed of that causes so much shame. Two cents.

Sing-along with Johnny Cash.

Saying that gay voice is becuase of gay culture is wrong, there are children with affeminate manerisms and gay voice,

OP here.

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I've lowered my pitch. I speak from my diaphragm. I speak while I'm exhaling.

But now I have a new problem. I'm starting to sound like Keanu Reeves. Is there no hope for me?

Oh, gurl - you is funny. You don't need to change ANYTHING!

[Quote]I'm starting to sound like Keanu Reeves. Is there no hope for me?

Are you also starting to [italic]look[/italic] like Keanu Reeves? If so, I want to meet you [italic]right now[/italic] and ravish you completely.

Smoke and drink whiskey.

He didn't say he wanted to sound like Lauren Bacall, R90.

R91 gets the WW

Most fags would be happy to sound as manly as Bacall.

Use better posture. So many gays have weak chests/backs and that raises the voice a half octave.

Even if you're naturally feminine sounding, the attempt to sound more masculine should be some benefit.

It's surprising how many guys who would like to attract masculine men talk like high school girls, like Ross Matthews.

Pray away the gay. Say away the gay.

The work never fucking ends.

....opens his mouth, and a purse falls out.....

David Muir must have paid top dollar for a elocution expert...you cannot detect any gay voice

even if one gets a lower pitch,you can still wind up sounding like Bianca Del Rio

The content of your conversation matter. Even if you have the voice of Barry White, you will sound gay if you're are calling guys "girl," "she," or talking about divas and show tunes.

duh, r100.

Is it really an affectation? I think it's physiological, related to the brain chemistry of being gay. You can make an effort to butch up (butch down?) your voice, but isn't that kind of fake or unnatural? Also, it would be hard to remember to force your voice into a lower register every time you speak; it would be like playing a character with a different accent...for the rest of your life.

"Butch?"

Well yes R102. I think it's an interesting subject. You can butch up your voice and keep it that way. As a singer it seems so strange to me that gay men live smaller lives with more painful problems than choir singers, amateur actors, CEO's, preachers or porn performers. There are limits to what you can achieve but you can permanently change (lower and de-fag) your voice in a way that over time will not seem or sound fake to you. No one said you have to. If you're under 35, get on it. Have a presence in life.

[quote]it would be hard to remember to force your voice into a lower register every time you speak;

I think that's a misconception about gay voice, that it's a matter of lowering your tone...there are many gay men with DEEP baritone voices, who still sound gay as ever. And you have straight men with high voices that don't sound gay at all. It is really more about elocution IMO. Its like getting rid of an accent. Accents have little to do with how high or low your actual tone of voice is.

DTM lowered his pitch a bit but mostly he modulated his voice and that's why he no longer "sounds gay."

It's a regular tone, no sudden ups, and regulating his pitch. DTM had serious "gay voice" as a teen. You can change your voice. Accent is a problem though.

Vivien Leigh, having done a Southern accent, more or less, in Gone With the Wind, dropped into a slightly British accent during moments of the closing. "I can't think about it now, I'll go crazy if I do. ...Where shall I go? What will I do?"

Too much nonsense, lower your voice, shorten you big eyed vowels and stop talking like a teenage girl. Jesus fags make everything so complicated. If you are cursed with a lisp you need a pathologist. Stop the sing song talk and try to pretend to be a man when you aren't full of cock. It's not so hard. Or embrace who you are and admit the real truth that bothers you - that big dick masculine tops won't fuck you.

Practice in front of a candle saying "ln Hertford, Hereford and Hampshire homos hardly ever happen."

Bump it with a Trumpet

A Doctor told me when I was a teenager (yes, I was that bullied kid that had a breakdown) that I had to stop making sentences sound like a question with a hesitant upswing at the end which she said was a sign of a feminine voice. She said that if you listen to men that everything they say is a definite statement. I think the gay voice is mostly because of the expressiveness in our voices rather than the monotone of straight men.

This gets on my nerves... people it's "EFFEMINATE" not "feminine"!

effeminate or feminine - "Both are adjectives that mean 'womanly,' but effeminate is used (usually in a negative way) to describe the things about a man that are non-masculine, while feminine is usually used to describe the things about a woman or gender-neutral object that are associated with being female."

And i agree "Do I Sound Gay" is a really an informative documentary

R108 wins!

How will you explain this to people that are familiar with your now voice? Seems strange.

R108 KILLED me.

Hang in sports bars

I'm British - but DL has taught me to talk like a Black American woman.

I say "Who is you, gurl?"

&

"Gurl, please!!"

- all the fucking time.

It sounds peculiar with my English accent.

Earl Wilson interviewing Tallulah Bankhead:

"Have you ever been mistaken for a man on the phone"?

Tallulah: "No,.....have you"?

It's not just about having a nasal quality to the voice, it's also about having a sing-songy speech pattern that you hear in teenage girls. A lot of gay guys felt more comfortable hanging out with girls during high school and osmotically picked up that valley girl speech pattern. You'll have to deprogram your brain from using that speech pattern and reprogram it with a more masculine speech pattern. Not easy, but doable if you're dedicated and disciplined. It may help to avoid hanging out with women too often.

Definitely consider going to a vocal coach rather than doing it on your own. The trend for women is to speak lower than their natural voice, and it can cause real vocal problems. A friend of mine developed muscle tension dysphonia, and apparently that is something that is becoming more and more common. It causes vocal strain and in extreme cases can make you lose your voice.

Recently heard a new radio commercial on iheart radio. The ad is for a recruiting app that helps businesses find candidates. The hero of the ad comes into the brainstorming meeting where the issue is needing to hire more people. The hero has gay voice. His presentation solves the business issue with this new recruiting app. He ends his statements with question marks, looking for approval from the group. At the end of the add the gay voice hero pauses and eagerly says "Wellll?" and the room erupts with applause.

No need to change your gay voice. The times they are a changin for you.

Draino

r62, video- EWW

Gay voice is meant for a reason. So women know you're not meant to breed. Big deal.

When alone, read out loud, very slowly. Listen to what happens.

Most homosexuals are married to fish and have normal voice.

Wouldn't it be easier to study a desired straight voice and imitate it?

And yes it's a life long effort.

You speak from the diaphragm, you sing from top of the head. That's why manly sounding singers sound "gay" when they sing.

Eventually you will just do it automatically. It's like correcting your posture while you walk. You just have to hold your pelvis at the proper angle and then it just sticks. (Important for people who have spinal problems or smashed their tailbone like I did <-- bye-bye, bubble butt. *single-tear* )

Your intonation should also sound like this "--------_, -------_, -------_." med to low, med to low, med to low, conclude low. You can still raise the pitch at the end in order to indicate that you're making an interrogative statement. Most straight men speak in a monotone with limited flourishes.

Get rid of the "S" by opening the mouth while you speak--wide. People "smile-speak" because it makes the constantants ring clearly. That should take care of that "s" sound that people talk about. Tip of the tounge should hit the UPPER palate--right above the two front-teeth, not the lower palate.

The millenials lisp a lot, the straight ones too.

As a straight Male, I sort of feel a right /duty to kill gay males with gay voices. If my son had gay voice, I'd worry for his safety.

There's an old Details article on the speech therapist who helps emerging gay actors sound less gay...

ya can't. it's fine. it sends its love.

Sometimes Southern men sound gay but really aren't and some that sound like the biggest hillbilly in the world are as gay as Christmas.

Just stop saying, "Oh, MARY!" quite so often.

Does 'Evan Shy' have gay voice?

I can always tell when a "man's voice" is used by someone who is gay. It happens often on first dates then once they get comfortable their voice is all rainbows and glitter.

I don't have gay voice but am a low-talker who is drowned out by white noise. I'm always ignored and unheard in conversations. I though about going to a voice coach to make my voice more audible, but figured speaking in a different manner would be too obvious among people who have known me for a long time.

Whoa. About halfway through that video R135, he goes beyond gay voice, if that's even possible. But hot as hell too!

Just stare into a mirror and keep repeating "I hate you. I hate you for being gay." But don't cry, that's unmanly.

If someone asked me if I was gay right after I met them, as the OP says is happening to him, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves and mind their own fucking business if they didn't want a boot in their ass. How fucking presumptuous and rude.

Funny

I gave up on it. If anyone asks me if I'm gay I just stop talking and pretend they don't exist anymore. There's no point answering that and making yourself a target for abuse which is the reason why they're alienating you by asking.

Wow r142. Where do you live?

Rural Canada.