Mongolian culture

Culturally, they are more similar to the central Asian people (Kazakhs, Kyrgyz people, etc.). But between Russian or Chinese, probably more Russian, as they are not fond of Chinese people or culture AT ALL.. I think it has something to do with that great, big Wall between them.

They are a huskily-built, hearty people, compared to the slight frames of other east Asian cultures.

They love their vodka and there is quite the alcoholism problem in the country. Not too dissimilar from USA's Native American people who were also a nomadic people who have not adapted too well to modern, urban, sedentary life.

[quote] I think it has something to do with that great, big Wall between them.

There is no wall between Mongolia and China.

I meant this wall which the Chinese built to keep the Mongolians out.

UlaanBataar looks like a Soviet city.

This is a country I've always wanted to visit.

At 1,564,116 square kilometers (603,909 sq mi), Mongolia is the 18th largest and the most sparsely populated fully sovereign country in the world, with a population of around 3 million people. It is also the world's second-largest landlocked country behind Kazakhstan and the largest landlocked country that does not border a closed sea. The country contains very little arable land, as much of its area is covered by grassy steppe, with mountains to the north and west and the Gobi Desert to the south. Ulaanbaatar, the capital and largest city, is home to about 45% of the country's population.

Approximately 30% of the population is nomadic or semi-nomadic; horse culture is still integral. The majority of its population are Buddhists. The non-religious population is the second largest group.

A frigid, freezing city. (UlaanBataar)

Despite looking like the Sahara in some parts, the Gobi Desert is a cold one.

There is one gay bar in all of Mongolia

Fans of (panda?) bears would like it.

Great place. I was there in May which Mongolians say they don't like because the weather is variable - in winter, you know what you're getting. In Mongolia, it's considered rude to knock before entering, or to open a bottle of vodka without finishing it.

The nomads live in yurts.

Yes I have. It was cold, the people, when young, are beautiful, and they drink. I am an anthropologist and have spent time with many different groups of people, but Mongolians drink the most.

I ate dog there. My hosts did not tell me what the meat in the delicious soup was. It tasted like good pork.

I like their traditional clothes.

Why didn't she get the big one?

Mongolians get zee compliments for drinking the vodka, but Russians is shit-heads?

FAKH YOU!

Interesting:

" Because of the hard and long winters, Mongolians cannot crop many vegetables and their meals are mostly based on meats - beef,mutton, marmot and horsemeat predominate."

R17 explains their physiques

hearty

I saw this movie in Anthropology class. It was very good.

Are they offended by the way they're depicted in American popular culture?

Built to wrestle.

I like their hats.

Why is the middle fella at R22 wearing sneakers & jeans?

They look eskimo-y.

Invasions, oppressions, expulsions, and genocides perpetuated upon the Mongols by the Chinese and Russians over the centuries ensured that Mongolia would never rise again. They were for many decades a Soviet satellite state, and today those ties with Russia remain strong.

Being gay out there on the steppe must be tough.

The language sounds more similar to Russian than Chinese..

Genetic testing has shown that 16 million living people are descended from Ghengis Khan.

Wrestling is a HUGE thing there.

Horseback riding and archery, too.

What is the name of the one gay bar (per earlier poster) in the country?

Mangolia

They still have grievances against China for what they considered occupied land (inner Mongolia).

I knew a geologist who got stuck there when the USSR fell apart and Mongolia was suddenly declared an independent nation. The Mongolians coped with it as best they could, they had to put a constitution together, issues visas and passports, design a currency, hold elections etc with no preperation time. My friend ended up helping to set up their environmental and mining laws while he was waiting for the Mongolian visas to be invented.

Those are some big boys.

Any naked ones?

The nomads keep golden eagles as pets and use them to hunt wolves.

[quote] They still have grievances against China for what they considered occupied land (inner Mongolia).

Wall, R32, I'd be pretty upset if I were Mongolia, too, considering that Mongolia used to be THIS....

Pretty cool.

I saw a pic of my great-great-grandmother. She looked utterly Mongolian. I think perhaps some lines got crossed when they swept down from the steppes.

A man's hat contains a casting of his cock, r23.

A Mongolian bodybuilder.

Mongolian dumplings (buuz).

R17, their diet is interesting. The large nomadic population will only eat their animals til they are very old so it is a dairy-based diet, I've read. They milk their yaks and horses and set the milk in the sun for a few hours. My GI tract would be miserable.

They have their own ancient Mongolian script, but since the cold war, have used Cyrillic mostly.

Mongolia is independent only because of Soviet meddling in the last century. Now that the Soviet Union is gone they are lost culturally and economically. It's one step from being a failed state without financial aid. There are actually many ethnic Mongolians living in China and doing quite well in the economic boom of the last decades. R44 That old script is still in use in the PRC.

Damn some of those Mongolian boys are gorgeous. Interesting country.

Traditional music & dance. It's a very colorful culture.

I hear similarities to Chinese music here.

I'd take a Mongolian over a Mongoloid.

Naked Mongolian?

The men look tall.

Drone footage over Mongolia... accompanied by traditional throat-singing.

Their fur coats are snazzy.

Mongolians must more people with rosy cheeks than anywhere else.

*must have

That's wind chap

That's wind chap

Face like a big apple pie!

Handsome men. And they apparently invented the bikini brief.

Mongolia was never officially a part of the USSR, R33. It was independent since 1921 when the Chinese were expelled by the Soviet army.

Its independence was formal more than actual. It was a satellite Soviet republic not unlike the Eastern European countries.

An authentic Mongolian restaurant in LA.

R61 With food like that, no wonder it's not popular. Most people don't want authentic. They want what caters to their palate.

Mongolians don't like Chinese because they resent them. Mongolia used to be the empire in power for years.. and really only recently has China usurped that role in Asia. Mongolians are a proud, warrior people.. but no, they are not a powerful nation or close to it anymore.

We need to begin arming the Mongolian army with nuclear weapons---keep China nervous.

The traditional women's hats are possibly the most over-the-top extravaganzas on Earth!

The costume designers for the Star Wars prequels borrowed heavily from Mongolian traditional dress, when designing Queen Amidala's insane wardrobe and headpieces.

Awesome headresses!

pretty scenery.

R64 You think the Russians will let you... lol.

kublai khan

R63 Mongolians were brutal invaders to begin with, and haven't been powerful since they were driven out of China by the Ming Dynasty in 1368. In fact, the present Great Wall was built to deter their cavalry from entering China. Without their horses, they were no match for the Chinese army. Now as a landlocked nation, it is so economically dependent on China that their people started to feel resentful. But their whole population amounts to 3 million.. That's around 1/7 the population of Beijing. There's really no future for a country like that but as a client state of a bigger power.

[quote]For a nation of people who almost conquered the world, you never hear about them anymore.

The entire history of the world is replete with this sentiment.

Only 3 million? So if all the gays moved in we could outnumber them and have the country to ourselves! Mon-Gay-lia!

As long as we keep the wrestlers..

Okay, one more headdress.

Eat your hearts out, Southern church ladies!

.....

There was an International House Hunters episode in Mongolia. Some guy teaching English or opening a school or something. It looked rather bleak. Didn't see any wrestlers walking around.

I can't imagine that it's an easy existence being landlocked between the two huge super powers of China and Russia, but well, the Mongolians look pretty tough and like they can handle themselves.. and they've been around for millenia, so...

This is how the Mongolian queens of yesteryear dressed.

George Lucas should have hired a Mongolian to play Queen Amidala too, R66

Yowza

Young Mongolian man.

There are no rules in Mongolian wrestling – anything goes. Bare knuckles, little padding, and there are no weight classes ..

Those hats! Carmen Miranda would have loved them.

There are some amazing caftans in Mongolia.

Thanks for the selfie R49. None of these men have hair on their chests or limbs so I figured their pubes were scant, as well. I'm glad to see they are bountiful. I wonder if thick bushes predominate under those wrestling shorts.

Whoever Mr. 49 is, he gorgeous.

OK, one more traditional dress. Love the pageantry.

The traditional fur that nomadic man wear when hunting.. it looks like something out the Revenant.

PETA would not approve.. but hey, let them survive an ice cold winter in the steppes.

R78 Actually, Mongol as an entity didn't appear in the history books until the Tang Dynasty, and only gradually become a powerful tribal identity in the 12th century reaching its climax in the 13th and 14th century with dominion over China as the Yuan Dynasty. The current Mongolia is more of a Soviet legacy. There are actually twice as many ethnic Mongols living in China as in Mongolia.

When you really need fur to survive, of course. Otherwise, it's inexcusable and people who wear it should get a chance to experience whatever the minks do.

Enormous statue of Genghis Khan on horseback.

Remarkable. I fear for the building.

It's the largest equestrian statue in the world, 130 feet high, of stainless steel. Visitors can take an elevator up into the horse's head, from which they have a panoramic view.

One source says that GK's military campaigns may have killed 40 million.

R77, I saw that HHI too. It's amazing that the modern/minimalist HH interior design cliche exists even in Mongolia.

Recently read that since it's grown so rapidly, the only way to find an address or deliver mail in UB is by using GPS.

R94 Back in the days, mass murder was what makes you a hero.

Sexy.

[quote]There are no rules in Mongolian wrestling – anything goes. Bare knuckles, little padding, and there are no weight classes

So it's sort of like "Feud: Bette vs. Joan?"

lol R98!

UlaanBataar is the world's coldest capital city.

Oh wow, I hadn't thought of Mongolia in years! In 6th grade, I had a teacher who made us all get international pen pals and then write a report on that country. I was pen pals with a boy from Mongolia. Gosh, I cannot even remember his name. But his family lived a nomadic lifestyle half the time, and he had other family in UlaanBaatar. He rode horses and lived in a yurt. It all seemed so very interesting to me. I kept in touch until around high school. I always wonder how he is doing.

I know it's the steppes, but the Ghengis Khan complex could use some color. Maybe some potted flowers around the perimeter?

No one does boiled yak lungs like the people on the south side of Ulan Bator. Don't believe what the east-side people tell you.

YUM!

Archery is a big deal there.

If I ever were to go there, I would go during their annual Eagle Festival.

My sister lived there for a spell in the early 2000s. Her husband worked for an NGO.

The culture is very different from other East Asian societies. Where other Asian cultures are humble, deferential, taught to be conformist and influenced by Confucius principles, Mongolians are proud, strong, aggressive and straightforward. Which she found refreshing. And yes, they love to drink! She brought me back a bottle of this rather excellent vodka.

They are much bigger and taller people than other Asian countries, probably due to their diet of red meat and dairy.

Bitches by stylin'!

Really, this thread is making me want to get a Mongolian ladies' headdress, and attend Royal Ascot.

Mongolia produces possibly the world's best cashmere. It might be their biggest export.

The majority of the country is Buddhist. The remainder is mostly atheist.

R100, you'd think the best cashmere would come from Kashmir, where the goats originated.

That was meant for R110

Second best? The Mongolians certainly believe theirs is still best and will tell you so. :-D

The harsh Gobi.

Even the babies are big. lol.

The less harsh Gobi.

The steppes look beautiful in pictures, but from the travel documentaries I've seen this is what the roads are like outside the big cities. Travel is by truck with 4WD only.

The glamorous life of a Mongolian nomad.

We get it. Colorful robes and big headdresses.

sounds like cool country, i'd love to visit some day. and they look hotter than the other asians...

Yurts are so HOT right now!

If you like yurts, you can rent on in Napa and enjoy the experience without the rigors of the Mongolian winter.

I think melanoma trump is half mongolian

I swear to god, I remember watching a documentary about Mongolian nomads on the National Geographic channel or something, hosted by, of all people, Julia Roberts. This was in the early 2000s. Or was I just stoned?

r125, you may have been high, but the Julia Roberts/Mongolia project is real.

I saw it, too.

Their cocks are small but I wish them all the best nonetheless.

R4 Ulaanbaatar looks like a Soviet city - because it was, in great part, built and modernized by the Soviets (just like many other Central Asian capital cities - e.g. Almaty in Kazakhstan). Prior to that, Central Asian nations were largely nomadic (similar to Native American tribes), so they didn't have their own urban infrastructure or modern technology.

Ulaanbaatar's 20th century architecture has a basic aesthetic look because aesthetics was not a prime concern at the time. The urban planners' more important aim was to provide all people with housing and basic infrastructure (i.e. large-scale modernization and urbanization on a very limited state budget).

Who knew that goddamn Mongolia would get so many DL responses. Love this place.

This thread is why we can have nice things.

Did the Mongolian nomads mistakenly try to ride Julia Roberts?

Gay Mongolian.

R107 Mongolians sound like the deplorables of East Asia.

You sound like the deplorable of wherever you live.

When I lived in the Bay Area, I met a Mongolian girl who was a contortionist for a living. She made good money, and told me this was a cultural thing. It wasn't until years later that I looked up Mongolian contortionists that I did, in fact, realize that this is a Mongolian thing.

Mongolians are apparently the best contortionists in the world.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, Mongolia was all hoping the US, Japan or Korea would help them build up a strong economy, but 20+ years later, it is broke and dependent on China, and the biggest irony is that the Inner Mongolia has a 10-20x GDP than Mongolia. That is a lesson for all the developing nations in the world.

Gyrations, it's sad because Mongolians really wanted America to be an ally and buddy. We give money to all kinds of countries, why not Mongolia?

I'm guessing because there's no oil there, so it's not worth the US aggravating Russia or China over it.

I have no idea where "gyrations" came from. I typed "Yeah" and I saw "Yeah" on the screen.

[quote] After the fall of the Soviet Union, Mongolia was all hoping the US, Japan or Korea would help them build up a strong economy, but 20+ years later, it is broke and dependent on China, and the biggest irony is that the Inner Mongolia has a 10-20x GDP than Mongolia. That is a lesson for all the developing nations in the world.

Sneaky Japan has other plans:

R138 The US lost interest after 9/11, and the later Pivot to Asia was more about the South China Sea. It is a big problem with the US that its foreign policy is almost solely dependent on who's President, and every reset from one extreme to another ends up destroying the work of the former administration.

[quote] Mongolia's pivot to Japan and South Korea for expanded trade and development is the result of its "Third Neighbour" policy strategy aimed at easing its dependence on Russia and China.

Good for Mongolia.

R140 Too little too late. That money will go to pay for existing debt (or worse lining politicians' pockets) rather than help the economy. Like other third world countries, Mongolia took out loans when commodity prices were high and their economy was booming, and now is in a downward spiral to pay off debt.

Mongolia? Isn't that one of the rivers that forms the Ohio in Pittsburgh?

R142 More like sweet dreams... That policy has been around for twenty plus years. I read about the same line of thoughts in the 90's! It's like Taiwan's pivot to Southeast Asia that their pro-independence party kept touting for decades while producing no significant results.

Japan just wants to contain China. They've cozied up to every enemy or neighbor of China that they can (Vietnam, India, etc.).

But hey, Mongolia and Japan have something in common: They both have conquered China. And if there is any country that rivals Mongolia in its hatred for China, Japan would be it.

Anyhow, back to Mongolian culture:

This is how a yurt is apparently assembled.

R146 They have something else in common. They both failed... miserably.

I had no idea that the internet contained Mongolian gay porn!!

R148

They love their yaks in Mongolia

Yakkety-yak.

Apparently, they are not "gifted". . . .

R107 R133 That's an unfair comparison - world geographers designated Mongolia as "East Asia", but culturally and socially they are much more Central Asian (like their western neighbors) or Northern Asian (like the tribes in Siberia). E.g. their traditional way of life (nomadism in the wide steppes, passion for hunting sports like horseback riding, archery, wrestling); their cuisine (hearty red-meat dishes); and even their general body type (usually taller and sturdier than East Asians).

[quote]I had no idea that the internet contained Mongolian gay porn!!

Where? Where?

Those strapping wrestlers have my attention.

R154 There is really no solid dividing line in terms of race/genetics between North Asia and East Asia since people have been streaming into the Yellow River Valley from the north for a thousand year or more. Northern "Han" Chinese of the present day are themselves a mix of many sinicized nomadic people who have settled down and intermarried with earlier sedentary people living there. In a way, you can even view this as a still ongoing process.

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Jesus they're hot

Not a nice place to be homeless... especially not in the winter!

China-Mongolia border.

They do like their big statues.

Statue of Kublai Khan.

Kublai Khan? Time for another "Xanadu" reference!

Mongolian wrestling in action.

This is probably the most that anybody, anywhere, has talked about Mongolia in months or years..

We're their Khanates before Gengis Khan?

Aren't they always finding dinosaur bones or fossils there?

Did you know there was a tribe of Turkic people who converted to Judaism in the Caucasus? It's true, but you have to be careful when talking about it because stormfronters use this bit of history for nefarious reasons.

Sorry, meant "for nefarious purposes."

This is how the men traditionally dress.

They quite favor blue, don't they?

Thank you everyone .

Thank you OP. I now know about Mongolian wrestlers.

R157 I wasn't referring to genetics / ethnicity - all of Asia is a melting pot, that's true. But there's a VERY palpable cultural divide between the more refined East Asians (traditionally sedentary nations) and the more rugged & wild Central / Northern Asians (traditionally nomadic hunters / herdsmen). The Mongolian lifestyle & more brash social attitude is strikingly similar to the Kazakhs & the Siberian Altai people. Mongolians have little in common with true eastern nations like the Koreans / Japanese / eastern Chinese.

For Westerners, the easiest comparison would be to Native American societies: - Mongolians are basically the Plains Indians (e.g. Shamanism as native religion, tribes as social structure, horse culture, archery, Mongolian "yurts" = teepees / wigwams). This similarity is because both lived in similar, wide-open environments: American plains = Eurasian steppes. - Eastern Asians are more like the Aztecs / Incas - more technologically advanced, historically built their own cities, infrastructure & monuments, agriculture-focused, more refined cultural tastes.

Interesting thread. Enjoyed this very much.

Were Mongolians always heavy drinkers, or was that something that was introduced to them during Soviet occupation/influence?

Nevermind, I am going to answer my own question.

[quote] Vodka is not a traditional drink [in Mongolia], since it has been imported by Russians during the communist period, but it is today the most consumed drink of the country.

That would be another similarity to the USA's Plains Indians. Heavy alcoholism and dependence on a liquor that was introduced to the culture rather recently. Mongolians do have their own traditional alcoholic beverage - [italic] airag [/italic], but it is a fermented horse-milk that contains 5 to 10% alcohol, as opposed to vodka.

A friend went to Mongolia, and he was the most interesting thing was seeing bagels for sale at a traditional market.

Yes, proper bagels, round bready things with a hole that were boiled and then baked, like a proper bagel, and ever since then we've wondered if bagels originated in Mongolia and their secret was transmitted down the Silk Road to the Middle East where the Jews could bring them to the world... or vice versa.

A few years ago, PBS's NOVA did a show about the discovery the grave of an "Amazon Queen". The grave of a warrior queen was found in the Middle East, and there was speculation that there was some relationship to the Amazons described in the Iliad since the time period was close.

So they did some genetic research, and found that the people with the most similar DNA to this blonde "Amazon Queen" were the Mongolians, and they went to Mongolia and found that the women there still compete in riding and archery... just like the ancient Amazons.

Interesting, R178. I found a video for what looks like Mongolian bagels.. these aren't boiled. Or at least they don't show the boiling part, but they look like bagels to me!

The northern part of Mongolia is home to the Tsaatan people, the "reindeer people" who herd and ride (!) reindeer!

Selfies aren't just an American millennial thing...

Love this thread!

I want to know more about the nefarious porpoIses of Mongolia, mentioned by Mr./Ms. 170.

Here is [italic] airag [/italic], the fermented, alcoholic horse milk.

Indeed, R179, Mongolian men aren't the only ones who can hunt with Golden Eagles on their arm.

Another eagle (13 y/o) huntress.

Do they have any natural resources? Looks pretty grim - no farmland, limited water. The climate data for the capital city looks miserable for most of the year.

According to the site below, "Mongolia has significant copper, gold, coal, molybdenum, fluorspar, uranium, tin, and tungsten deposits. Minerals accounted for 46 percent of gross domestic product in 2010 and 80 percent of exports in 2007."

R187 Not much arable land. All the mining destroys grazing land. There is also ongoing desertification. Climate change might just be the final blow. Sounds like a country in a downward spiral.

There's an interesting film that was out a few years ago that was filmed in Mongolia call The Story of the Weeping Camel.

No wonder they drink...

Yes, R190! I saw that film and it was wonderful!

R191 = Chinese trolling!

Start your own thread about China!

I love these hearty people! (Except I'm a vegan, so would starve there.)

Koreans are actually distantly related to Mongolians and are also of North Asian tribes in origin, but they absorbed Chinese culture early on and settled down. The Jurchens/Manchurians are also from North Asia and are essentially absorbed into Chinese society after the fall of the Qing dynasty. The last three Chinese dynasties were the Mongolian Yuan, the Han Ming, and the Manchurian Qing, leading to present-day multi-ethnic China.

Vegans can't have yak butter?I thought dairy was okay.

Is that why Korean news tv is called airang, is that essentially the same word?

The Altai mountains, where Russia, China, Kazakhstan, and Mongolia meet one of the great population incubators of world history. More cultures and peoples started there than anywhere else in the world.

Those are some beautiful mountains, R198.

Vegans can't have any animal products. I've gone that route because I read too much about conditions in the dairy and egg industries. So dairy from free-range creatures, such as the ones in Mongolia, would actually be fine for me. (I'll confess to the occasional slice of pizza.)

I think r132 is really cute!

Wow!

Yes, seems very sweet too. Hope he's not lonely.

The Altai mountains have had a near constant climate since the ice age.

Eggs are not diary products.

Well, the chickens probably feel like they're laying the damn things on a schedule.

[quote]Vodka is not a traditional drink [in Mongolia], since it has been imported by Russians during the communist period, but it is today the most consumed drink of the country.

Isn't this the country where oft-forgotten DL Fave Karen Allen drank that guy under the table in "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"

Mongolian male:

Wrestler:

Waiting:

Love the hat!

Is there an online site where I can adopt one? Is there a Mongolian version of our own Darfur Orphan?

What's hotter than a tall, muscular Asian dude?

The height and beefiness must be from all of that yak milk and meat

The Trump spirit lives even in Outer Mongolia, with neo-Nazis bashing gays. Though some now say they're OK with it.

Fuck me deep, you Mongolian stud at R207!

How odd that the women are fully covered up with these elaborate, detailed getups, while the men seem to want to wear as little as they possibly can and show as much as they can.

Wearing a fur coat while wrestling is not optimal.

Big boys:

These are much better than wrestling singlets.

They seem rugged and proud.

Friendly rivals:

Joe, is that you?

I guess they're uncut

R212, Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Black and white:

Most men, other than Jews and Muslims, are uncut.

R223. Of course Mongolian men are uncut. They're civilized, not mutilators.

Well I'm Catholic and cut.

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MOST men.............

R228. Most men in the world are intact.

Genghis Khan was a bad ass. Although known for the brutality of his campaigns and considered by many to have been a genocidal ruler, Genghis Khan is also credited with bringing the Silk Road under one cohesive political environment.

R232 And his descendants quickly divided up the spoil and lost it all. The story of most empires.

Hot, R209~!

The Mongolian circus puts on a good show, no joke.

Meet the Mongolian Marvels, who travel with the Ringling Brothers.

"This troupe is featured in a one-of-a-kind showcase that combines the Mongolian cultural style of the strongman, the ancient art of throat singing, the skill of contortion, the circus acrobatics of hand voltige and the traditional style of Mongolian dance, all with a modern twist that takes this presentation to the extreme."

R236 Is this advertisement?

lol, R237. No, I've seen them and they are pretty cool.

Joanna Lumley (AbFab's Patsy) has a travel docu series where she visits countries and continents. As part of her Trans-Siberian Adventure she visited Mongolia's giant Khengis Khan statue. It's a fabulous series (her Greek docu is my most favorite to date).

Handsome.

[quote]Most men, other than Jews and Muslims, are uncut.

Most men, other than Jews, Muslims, and AMERICANS, are uncut.

Who knew DL would rally around Mongolia of all people/places. We've seem to have concluded that Mongolians are fierce as fuck.

R186, there is an entire documentary about that girl. She's the only girl participating in the 70+ strong, traditionally male, eagle hunting festival. And yes, R242, they are fierce!

The first ever gay Pride week in Mongolia was held back in 2013.

Good for them, but where are the wrestlers! The rainbow Mongolia shape on the map looks like a Speedo.

I would think last thing an under populated country of 3 million needs is more gays.

R246 It makes it easier to outnumber them and take over the country.

Is there any hope at economic development with their environmental and resource limitations?

Good filial son:

Getting ready:

Representing America:

The Indiana Jones scene with Marion in the drinking contest was set in Nepal.

They should export the hot men.

Searching for gold in Mongolia.

A fascinating culture

Traditional Mongolian music.

#1 wrestler

Mongolian male model Khuslen Khan.

Another view.

Drivers stranded in a blizzard in Mongolia.

Just a little desert storm in the Gobi...

Mongolia has its own breed of kitty-cat, the Pallas cat.

Another view of Mongolian kitty.

Mongolian mastiff dog?

I think that may in fact be a Tibetan mastiff, and the Mongolian one has less of a mane. But, wiki says, mastiffs in the region of Tibet, India, and Mongolia were associated with nomadic peoples. In Tibet they were used to guard sheep against bears and wolves. I think they'd win the fight!

R265, I think you are correct. But holy cow, the size of that dog!

One more of the male model, Khuslen Khan, since this is DL, afterall.

R267 The super plucked eyebrows and glammed up eyes really destroy the whole manly look.

Yes, I was wondering if he'd had "work" done, but think it's what you said. But he's still,quite splendid, if over manicured.

And thanks to the Pallas cat poster!

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Dinosaur eggs found in Mongolia.

[quote] And thanks to the Pallas cat poster!

No problem, R269. Here's one last photo of the Mongolian Pallas cat looking a little grumpy..

A good friend spent some time a couple of years ago working on a documentary that took him to all the "stans", Mongolia and China. He came back with some great stories about parts of the world we rarely hear much about. Apart from his absolute loathing of the Chinese, based on lots more time in China than just this docco, he enjoyed the rest of the places and people. Of Mongolia, i remember him saying 1, Ulan Bator is a really, really ugly city, 2. the vast steppes are absolutely amazing and 3. they had vodka at breakfast, lunch and dinner. Said he was always wasted by mid-morning.

I like their barbecue

I was watching "Bizarre Foods" tonight, and they had a segment on a REAL Mongolian BBQ.

Out in the steppes there are no trees or firewood, so to roast a sheep the nomads built a fire out of dung and heated up some rocks. Then they opened up a previously dressed sheep's carcass and stuffed it with the hot stones, and sewed up the skin so that all the heat from the stones was trapped inside the skin and the meat slowly cooked inside. Then, they burned all the fur off the hide with a modern blowtorch.

[quote]this is DL, afterall.

yes, you could tell because kitties.

The Mongols made it all the way to eastern Europe. Hungary to be exact. Why did they not proceed all the way to conquer western Europe?

They probably saw all of the Black Death plague victims and were like, "fuck this shit!"

R278 There was not much worth conquering in Western Europe... it was the third world back then.

I love the wrestlers' boots.

So, essentially, the Mongols are the Dothraki of Asia?

R282, essentially yes. Mongolians pride themselves on being a race of horse-mounted warriors, even today. Were wars still to be fought on horseback and with swords, rather than with drones and high-tech military gadgetry, they would be a formidable force. But of course, things change.. Still, it is commendable that they have kept their traditions alive.

The Dothraki culture is, as author George RR Martin has stated, inspired by the Mongols, the horse-lords who swept westwards from Central Asia in the 13th century.

R278, the Mongols reached as far west as southern Vienna and probably would have advanced further, but the Great Khan, Ögedei Khan died after a night of binge drinking, forcing Batu Khan, Goyuk Khan, and Kadan Khan to retreat back to Russia to select the new Supreme Khan. The Great Khanate, however, descended into near open warfare as Batu and his cousins battled for supremacy. After the dust settled, Batu had every intention to resume his conquest of the west, towards the the "Great Sea", but he died before fulfilling his dream.

Thanks, I did not know that, r284. Makes perfect sense.

I want one of each of the cat and dog!

They killed more people than any other conquerors ever. Some estimates say they murdered almost as many people as died in WWII -- on all sides.

The Silk Road of the Mongols.

Plague probably made all their conquests possible. After all the steppes had been dealing with plague for a thousand years by then.

R29 beat me to it. Genghis Khan was a major pussyhound. Big Trump supporter.;

Pallas cat seems judgy.

Apparently Pallas cats have a high mortality rate in zoos because, as high-altitude animals, they did not develop the immune system to deal with the viruses that exist at lower lattitudes.

I went to gradate school with a Mongolian. He was the biggest bottom/pass around princess I've ever seen. He was free to do what he liked in The US whereas in The East he couldn't unleash his inner gay.

I've found that all the Asian guys I've been with have been voracious bottoms... especially the big muscle guys. The exception in my experience has been Filipinos, who can go either way.

Is there a concensus on this?

Man, I feel like such a rice queen now!

that cat is amazing

[quote] Genghis Khan is also credited with bringing the Silk Road under one cohesive political environment.

Thereby putting all the mom and pop political environments along the Silk Road out of business.

I checked the weather and it's warmer in Mongolia today than it is at my house.

This thread makes me want to visit Mongolia, lol.

And R288, the Mongolian cat is not happy with you.

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Was the Pallas cat named after Pallas Athena?

That would be appropriate, since it's kind of owlish, and the owl is Athena's "attribute." But I think wiki says that Pallas was the name of the naturalist who "discovered" it. (I believe that owls are the only birds that have forward-facing eyes, as do humans, canines, and felines. Yes?)

The Mongolians also call the cat "manul."

R25, because we are. Different race than First Nation.

Bring all the styles here. Winter 2017 2018 line. Starting now.

Absolutely, R305!

Let's burn all our gray and beige, and buy whole new wardrobes of brilliantly colors silks! Oh, the world would be a better place if we all dressed like THIS, instead of like corporate drones.

Can those hats serve as cell phone signal boosters, or SiriusXM antennas?

Love the wrestling garb.

Mongolia: where every day is a say-something-hat day!

They get points for style.

R295, I'm living in Asia at the moment and yes, I can tell you that there is an abundance of bottoms in the region not unlike in America. Which makes sense because getting your prostate stimulated feels pretty fucking amazing. That said, that doesn't mean that there's a shortage in fit, aggressive tops with rock-hard dicks and massive thighs and smooth muscular bodies and, oh my... I need to get out for a quick fuck now!

^^^^Direct from Kenosha.

I loving this thread And, I love, and have to laugh at the fact that the one thing DLers are rallying around and in agreement over is Mongolia/Mongolians of all things. How random. We usually tear everything to shreds. Lol.

We rally love Mongolians.

R248 Of course there are ways to develop the country successfully with the right investment and technology, especially with such a small population. But the worst enemies of the Mongolian people are their own inept politicians. They have a third-world democracy where during the last economic boom, politicians were promising free land or cash handout for everyone to get elected. Of course it all turned out to be a disaster when poor people ended up living in gers/yurts outside the city waiting for infrastructures that never came, and debt ballooned for the government when the boom faded. Meanwhile, those with connections to the corrupt politicians got richer and richer.

"The Mongolian lifestyle & more brash social attitude is strikingly similar to the Kazakhs & the Siberian Altai people. Mongolians have little in common with true eastern nations like the Koreans / Japanese / eastern Chinese."

That's because Mongolians and the myriad Turkic speaking Asians (Kazakhs, etc.) share history, genes, and culture. They obviously both come from the same Eurasian, nomadic, horse-loving monolith, and they used to join each others hordes. Even as late as 15th and 16th-century Russia.

That said, I think that there are a lot of cultural similarities between these people and other East Asians. The non-Turkic Siberians are the ones who are really different.

Another thing---somebody said that Koreans descended from a group like the Mongolians. Not so sure about that---Korea was invaded many times, however, and people frequently discuss the long-lasting influence on the food and language. Apparently, the heavy consumption of meat was brought by he nomads.

I see some facial resemblance with Koreans - high cheekbones, round, moon-faces.. but as others have mentioned, Mongolians are much sturdier than east Asians.

I believe the eastern Europeans who came in contact with the Mongols believed them to be a very tall, giant race of people.

Mongolian man.

Western woman sandwiched between 2 Mongolian men.

American/European(?) guy about to try his hand at Mongolian wrestling.

The only thing so far that I don't like is that string belt thing the wrestlers wear. Very unflattering to the torso line.

That's how they tie on the garment that covers their arms and upper back, R322. You need to find a way to let them know they should alter their centuries old garb so your dick gets hard.

Could they raise it to just under their tits? It would do wonders for their tourism sector! I'll contact the Mongolian embassy.

So why isn't the American in the photo wearing the stringy thing, Mr. Smartypants? HE knows how unflattering it looks!

I wonder if there is any significance to the western dude wearing a red loincloth instead of blue.

Mongolian warrior armor.

Now THAT is a look!

Culinary tip for next BBQ:

Mongolian cavalrymen would carry meat under their saddles to transport and tenderize it.

Interesting fact, R329!

That's probably what it takes to be able to chew the meat from your yak that died of old age.

[quote]Korea was invaded many times

Just like my mussy!

R321's photo needs to be in a "Who Wore It Best?" feature.

Here's the real secret: Mongolians are Santa's people :)

Amazing photo, R334. What with riding reindeer and hunting with eagles, Mongolians must be amazing with wild animals...

The reindeer and their herders are dying out in Mongolia.

Reindeer populations are dying out all over the world.

Sad. It would be a loss to lose such a colorful, interesting culture

Tuvan throat singing

The performer produces a fundamental pitch and, simultaneously, one or more other pitches. Sometimes used to mimic sounds of the environment

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I have a theory that Native American Indians are descended from Mongolians they have a similar look about them.

well, Native Americans are descended from Asian nomads who crossed the Bering land bridge... it would make sense if they were Mongolian/north Asian tribes

where can I get a Mongolian cat?

(and throw in a wrestler, too).

Bump. That kitty @ R263 is pure awesomeness. It's resting facial expression is GOALS.

*Its

R321, are the arm wraps for the ritual post-match fistfucking?

Native Americans do not share DNA with Mongolians. They share DNA from western siberians.

When I was campaigning with Ike, I'd occasionally chat with older women who had Mongoloid children. It was heartbreaking, really.

R346, same difference. They're all a bunch a-furriners.

Mongolians are close to Tibetans.

I read somewhere in a lgbt history site that Gingis Kan was bisexual and had sex with guys, women were only babies making machines for him

If you guys like Mongolians, spend some time in Arlington, VA---there's a fairly large community.

In fact, I think that they own and run an IHOP franchise in Ballston...all of the servers have names like "Ganzorig."

^^^^ Really? They're all a bunch of furriers?

Sorry---don't get it, r352.

I just ate at ballston ijphop. No mongolians. My server is mexcan who speaks with no accent

The came the mongoloid...

A snow leopard in Mongolia.

A Mongolian cat meowing.

OK, last Mongolian cat video.

Don't upset this kitty. He is warning you.

Another tough 'ol granny just riding a reindeer...

That grandma didn't get run over by a reindeer.., she rode it 😜

Is Meemaw wearing a say-something hat or say-something hair?

Whatta buncha mongoloids!

Princess Tiny Meats!

I'll spend my vacation money on countries with longer penis sizes, tank you

oh R362, we all know there isn't a country with men that have large enough dicks to fill the dark, cold abyss that is your yuge, gaping prolapsed hole...

[quote]Of course there are ways to develop the country successfully with the right investment and technology, especially with such a small population. But the worst enemies of the Mongolian people are their own inept politicians. They have a third-world democracy where during the last economic boom, politicians were promising free land or cash handout for everyone to get elected. Of course it all turned out to be a disaster when poor people ended up living in gers/yurts outside the city waiting for infrastructures that never came, and debt ballooned for the government when the boom faded. Meanwhile, those with connections to the corrupt politicians got richer and richer.

Sounds just like so-called "first world" countries.

Well they have a lot of land and not many people, but you don't hear the US Homestead Act described as an unconscionable giveaway, do you? Grow a brain R364, you won't get the real scoop from a western source. The kind of immoral trash in America who are "expert" on foreign countries are typically corrupt bankers, Mormon missionaries, and corporate toads. You won't get an honest opinion from any of them.

Thanks, R358. Those cute, cantankerous cats are EVERYTHING. Its huffy gaze elegantly mirrors my own.

My new spirit animal.

Ugh, this thread makes me so sad. 3 million people human lives essentially wasted as genetic and cultural hybrids of the Chinese and Russians? That's worse than being Filipino. I'd kill myself.

R367 Actually, the Mongolians of the past have already sowed their genetic seeds across Eurasia, although their cultural identity didn't last after the fall of the Khanates. What's left in Mongolia nowadays are the ones left behind.

Meow, bitches

adorable, R369

I checked to see if Mongolia won any medals at the 2016 Olympics, and this guy, a boxer named Dorjnyambuugiin Otgondalai, won a bronze.

A view from behind of these infamous Mongolian wrestling outfits.

Pretty Mongolia.

Mongolia has some areas that look like the American southwest.

Mormon missionaries in Mongolia.

They eat Pizza Hut out there, too.

A traditional wedding.

And funeral.

Ulaanbaatar skyline.

Mongolian wrestler statue.

Ulaanbaatar urban graffiti mural

Another mural.

Those wrestling outfits are quite becoming from the back ...

Re. Pizza Hut reaching there

I think many Asians are lactose-intolerant, but, given the traditional diet in Mongolia, that wouldn't be a problem there I guess.

I wonder if yak is a topping for Mongolian pizza :-P

didn't marco Polo meet with the Mongols and Genghis Khan?

And if so, did he bring back noodles to Italy with him? (to introduce pasta)?

R385, Kublai Khan

The Mongolian flagbearers at the Olympics used to wear wrestling slings and large, intricate head dressings while marching in the Opening Ceremonies, kind of like the gorgeous oiled Tongan athlete at the most recent Olympics. I don't recall if a Mongolian did it this year. The Tongan is seared in my memory.

There, I just contributed to the decline of the collective IQ on this thread. Who knew we DLs were so cultivated?

According to some historians, Genghis Khan was white, or at least contemporaries described him as having red hair and light eyes, ditto his chief wife. Which isn't hard to believe, Mongolia is close to Russia and all the barbarian tribes of that region were always invading each other's lands and raping each other's women, or marrying each other's princesses to form temporary alliances. Even today, light hair or eyes show up in Mongolians, as recessive genes work their way to the surface.

This is supposedly a contemporary portrait of Genghis Khan, which shows him with Mongolian-esque features and gray hair. Perhaps the reports of red hair were greatly exaggerated, perhaps the court painter wasn't working from life.

Well shit, all that blather and I forgot to link the portrait of Genghis Khan!

If you look really close, you can see the eyes might be gray.

But like I said, sometimes Mongolians express some interesting recessive genes.

Love those murals. Truly an example of an ancient culture meeting urban existence.

love it all.

I had no idea DL had so much knowledge about Mongolia. I'm especially impressed by the number of experts on Mongolian genetics. I nominate DL for the Nobel Prize in medicine for pulling scientific research out of our collective gaping ass.

Milk & Meat!

There is a theory that Mongolian horseman may have invented ice cream, when they took cream in containers made from animal intestines as provisions on long journeys across the Gobi desert in winter. As they galloped, the cream was vigorously shaken, while the sub-zero temperature caused it to freeze. The expansion of the Mongol Empire spread ice cream through China, from where Marco Polo reputedly brought the idea to Italy when he returned from his travels in 1295.

Mongolia is the world’s second-largest producer of Cashmere goat’s wool, behind only China, with 20% of the world market.

Being 15% European is behind a good chunk of their beefiness in relation to most East Azns. Uyghurs and Kazakhs are almost 50%.

Current day Korean, Japanese and North Chinese, and even Native American, are substantially descended from recurrent Mongolian/Siberian invaders, going back around 5 and 10,000 years. Before then Northeast Asia was dominated by people like the Ainu and South China by people like Thais/Pinoys. Going back even further the people were basically like today's Papuans. Of course it continues into historic times. 'Europe' extended genetically as far as the Tarim Basin until the western parts were overrun in something like 100 AD.

Being 15% Mongolian is what makes Europeans chunky.

Who knew a thread about f'ing Mongolia would receive so many posts on DL?!

Any thread that has lots of pics of hot exotic guys will get a lot of love on DL

Let's hear it for Mongolia! It's about time.

Wait until you start discussing us

I do declare that I love those Mongolian boots - they are quite stylish.

Mongolian is the new black.

I spent six months in Mongolia in 2001. My perspective:

Mongolian men (and women!) are the hottest Asian people when they are younger. The men are more macho and more confident than any of the other Asian cultures. The women too, don't have that retiring affect typical of Asian women in general, and will talk with confidence. Its easy to pick out the Mongolians within an ethnically mixed work crew - the guys will always stand straight, with shoulders back and will be doing most of the work. But once its time to quit, they will immediately drop whatever it is they are doing and march off and get drunk. Both men and women will always look you straight in the eye when talking to you which can feel a bit disconcerting if, like me, you go there after spending a lot of time in Japan, China and Thailand. The best thing about Mongolian culture (or lack thereof!) is that you don't have the constant feeling of doing something culturally wrong or insensitive that one gets in Japan all the time.

Both men and women drink like the proverbial fish. I found Mongolian food to be the worst in all of Asia - almost no seasoning and everything tasted rather sour. However, when I returned to Japan, I found that even Japanese food - which is milder tasting than most Asian cultures - had started to taste over-seasoned and too flavorful, so I guess I would have started to enjoy Mongolian dishes had I stayed there longer.

Mongolia itself is startling beautiful once you get out of the cities, and once you get over the initial shock of a land with almost no trees, very low population, and very few high structures. It is arid, pure, and the air is SO clean that it almost hurts. The slightest whiff of diesel or burning seems to carry for miles. When I returned to Japan, I had a reverse culture shock in having to deal with crowds and buildings and industrial pollution.

thanks for the interesting post, R406!

So ... Mongolians are Asian-adjacent?

Of course they are Asian. Are you intelligence-adjacent?

thanks to this thread, I asked a husky Asian guy at the bar if he was Mongolian!

(he was not)!

Sassy

[quote]R167: We're their Khanates before Gengis Khan?

Jesus wept.

You'd weep too, R412, if someone were hammering nails into your hand.

[quote] But once its time to quit, they will immediately drop whatever it is they are doing and march off and get drunk.

Good for Mongolians. More Americans should have this same approach towards work.

So has anyone here actually had sex with a Mongolian?

There are only around 18,000 Mongolian-Americans in the US, so if somebody has bedded one, it would most likely be one of our intrepid posters here who have spent time in Mongolia.

I had no idea that Steven Seagal is half-Mongolian. He also has a Mongolian wife...

Seagal's Mongolian wife.

OK, I can kind of see the Mongolian features on Seagal. (I know he's kind of a joke as an actor, but he wasn't bad-looking when he was younger..)

I once interviewed for an asst job with Seagal and went to his home. It was eerily quiet with lots of people around him seemingly bowing and scraping. There was lots of nervous energy in that house. He was sort of weird and acted like he was Buddha or something. One of the stranger interviews I've had.

I believe you, R420. He's a strange one. I am also surprised Seagal does not claim to be descended from Genghis Khan himself....

In Krakow, Poland, a trumpeter plays five notes from the tower of the Mariachki Church as tribute to the Mongol invasion of 1241. He was shot in the throat during the signal warning. The tune is played as he performed it.

He was shot by an arrow?

i remember that Julia Roberts documentary, too.

You can say that again, R421 (just read Seagal's Wikipedia page). Apparently he acted as the bodyguard/legal guardian of the Tibetan Lama's daughter for 10 years, wtf.

A lot of the white guys heavily into martial arts are definitely Asia-obsessed oddballs.

Lamas aren't supposed to have daughters, r425!

But then, Segeal is a known bullshit artist.

More of the Mongolian kitty.

Ornery little cats, these are.

More Mongolian fashion.

This looks like something from out of the movie "The Cell."

So festive and ornate

Mongolian couture.

Apparently, Mongolia has tornadoes as well..

In Mongolia, a particularly harsh, cold winter is called a "dzud," when temperatures can reach as low as -50 F.

A camel ride in the Gobi.

Magical people and culture.

So I googled Mongolian dog and this came up! Somebody else said it's a Tibetan dog, but seems they are common in Mongolia as well

Another one.

He's a walking tornado!

that's a damn big dog

Awww

looks more bear than dog 😜 and slightly related to chow-chows, who I know are from China

R437, that looks like a Tibetan mastiff.

A red Tibetan mastiff

well, I guess it would make sense that dogs and cats in these countries would need to be huge and furry to survive those harsh climates.

I wish the men were the same, r445!

Mongolian cat is a BITCH!

A silk-covered body inside a coffin and a silver bowl depicting Greek goddesses are among the discoveries at a 1,500-year-old cemetery in Inner Mongolia.

A Mongolian dance costume.

You can blame Mongolia for all of those eco-hippies building their eco-yurts.

I like the facial hair...

Can you imagine these guys invading your town on horseback?

Mongolian men aren't the only ones who wrestle in that country..

cute R453

R452 Presenting hole

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NPR did a story about the girl eagle hunter: In 'The Eagle Huntress,' A Mongolian Girl Sets Out To Prove Her Elders Wrong. It's a quick listen.

Poor Mongolians and hypertension:

R429, Eiko Ishioka did get a lot of her costume ideas for "The Cell" based off some of the traditional Mongolian dress.

r389 I used to babysit a friend of the family's son who is half Mongolian half northern Chinese he had reddish hair like these Mongolian kids, the mom (Han Chinese) thought it was odd but the dad said it was common for Mongolian kids because Mongolians are part white.

The dad was giant, at least 6'5 and huge, the kid was big for his age too. On his first birthday he wore one of the robes and a hat like the man in r83 is wearing. He had his first haircut after his 2nd birthday, it was shaved except for a piece in the back which is left to protect them from the evil eye. We moved away and lost touch with them.

Mongolian men are HUGE. I don't know where the height is from, but they are much taller than even Russians..

The language sounds really cool.

Pretty.

They have an ice festival every year.

Are we certain the Mongols didn't interbreed with Britons? I've got the Mongolian temperament and Ancestry.com sez I'm 19% East Asian.

R465 Did you have an Asian milkman?

Story as old as time.

[quote]Local authorities in Mongolia are scrambling to find ways to stop young people from leaving small towns for the capital.

[quote]Ulaanbaatar is struggling to cope with the influx of people, even as the mayor banned urban migration.

Is this where mulans boyfriend is from??

I just came in here to say, check out the brow ridge on the guy in the gingham shirt in the OP! He could give Nikolai Valuev a run for his caveman money.

R460, yes they are part white; Genghis Khan came from a tribe known as the grey eyes. They also had red-haired tribes in the area. But like all originally white places (ancient Northern India, Persia etc), once the whites start mixing with others their recessive genes make them disappear.

Just to clarify, I'm not being insulting by noticing brow ridges; I like them, they run in my family :)

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Those Mongolian cats are something else.

Heavy eyebrow ridges are a Caucasian feature.

A friend immigrated from Japan when he was 9 or 110, and he said that was what he noticed most about all the white people. H said our foreheads looked even wierder than our noses in general.

I assume any features look shocking when you come from a land where everybody's face looks like the back of a shovel

Bankhar puppy

I'm going there next month! Excited, nervous, and all that. I'll report back.

R476 Make sure to pre-lube!

Mongolian throat uh, rapping?

The Dark Knight theme by Hans Zimmer with singer Uyanga Bold doing her Mongolian throat singing.

Our friend at r476 should update us, or did he go native and is now living in a yurt with his giant Mongolian husbear?

Gay Life in Mongolia

Drag really is universal, isn't it?

Steven Seagal's father was Russian Jewish, not Mongolian.

Something local:

Rug/carpet making:

Getting ready:

Women archers:

who knew a thread about Mongolia could reach 500 posts?

R476, did you see any Pallas's cats (aka manuls)?

Are they represented in the Olympics?

My bf said he tried their beef and it is cut in little pieces unlike our steaks. I know a guy from Mongolia who is a Dreamer. He doesn't know what he would do if he has to go back because he doesn't have any money to get there.

Is he hot, R491? He could become a wrestler.

[492}. No. He is average build and works at Macys.

R393, you will be huffing and puffing a bit in Bogota when you arrive, but it gets better. I had a much harder time dealing with altitude in Quito and Cusco. La Paz, Bolivia was impossible. I never got used to the altitude there. Take time to acclimate.. altitude sickness is real.