Stars That Are Miserable Assholes

Might be easier to start from the opposite premise OP. Who isn't miserable.

Chelsea Handler...I just listened to a podcast where a female comedian talked about being routinely harassed and abused by Handler because Handler didn't like her being nice to the crew of a show they were on together.

r2 what podcast?

I heard Polaris is a total shithead, but I also heard that Betelgeuse is such a fucking asshole that he makes Polaris seem like Alpha Centauri by comparison.

Uhm,

Alison Rosen R3 The comedian's name was Kira Soltanovich.

I guess this must be it.

Nice when people link.

74.9 percent .

Christian Bale OWNS this thread!

Some other honorable mentions:

Ben Affleck

Miles Teller

Angelina Jolie

"Stars are ageless"

R4, I chuckled.

Lucille Ball

Mia Farrow

Kevin Spacey has always seemed miserable to me.

Susan Sarandon

Johnny Depp

George Clooney

Reese Witchspoon

Fishstock Paltrow

Strange about Paltrow, Some say she's a bitch and other's say she's just a well intentioned but out of touch wealthy white girl.

I already knew Chelsea was a bitch but after hearing how she treats her coworkers she's obviously just a flat out, mean spirited, CUNT!

Explains why Chelsea's friends with charlize.

AND Jennifer Aniston R19^.

Angelina Jolie

Not me!

Me neither!

Tommy Lee Jones

Bill Murray

Jim Carrey

Elton John

Faye Dunaway

Julia Roberts

Sean Penn

Ben Affleck

Woody "Just keep playing with the train, Dylan" Allen.

Mandy Patinkin

Bruce Willis

Well, his father was a secret Nazi (obsessed with Nazi history and regalia) and used to dress up in a full Nazi uniform while at their home in the San Fernando Valley.

Nazi dad also used to verbally terrorize the entire family on a regular basis.

Herr Fowler (the Spacey father's real last name is Fowler) *also* consistently raped Kevin's brother throughout their entire childhood. He also violently beat him. Spacey's mom apparently knew about all and did nothing to protect her sons.

The brother has come out publicly with this a few years ago, and Spacey responsed to it, and *denied none of what his brother said*.

Kevin Spacey grew up in a house of horrors and I wouldn't be surprised if he's a miserable person today.

[R29] was for [R14] btw!

"Bitch I'm Madonna" - the name of her song says it all.

I had no idea Kevin Spacey went through a hellish childhood like that R29. Wow.

Kim Cattrall

Di Caprio.

Yes, [R32], I was pretty shocked as well.

Spacey really wants to avoid talking about his own childhood, so when this came out in the mid-2000s, Kevin's PR people were like, "The whole family cares deeply about Randall (Spacey's brother) and what he went through--even though Kevin himself wasn't a victim of abuse--he and his family just want to be there to support Randall because of what he's been through.....blah, blah, blah". It didn't refute anything in his brother's statements--just slipping in there that "Kevin wasn't abused".

I have a feeling though, that that last part was just so Spacey could control his own PR narrative and never be painted as an "abuse victim" and placed in that category by the media.

The brother says Kevin and his sister and their mom were beaten and verbally abused (and around the Nazi stuff) *all the time*.

Randall says he thinks he was the only one that was continually raped, but honestly, that household was so fucked up, I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin was raped by the dad too, and either wants privacy about it (understandable) or doesn't want that to be part of his official bio/Wikipedia entry--so to speak.

Anyway, here's a portion of a Page Six article from a few years ago that details what Randall (Spacey's brother) said happened in their childhood "house of horrors": *******************************************

"The Spacey family horrors: More tabloid torment for Kevin Spacey. Last week, we reported that he'd been mugged (or something) in a London park at 4:30 a.m.

Now his brother, Randall Fowler, is alleging that their late father, Geoff Fowler, was a sadistic, bisexual Nazi. In an astonishing echo of Spacey's "American Beauty," Fowler tells Britain's Mail on Sunday that their dad raped and whipped him for years and was a member of the American Nazi Party.

"I grew up in a living hell," Fowler, 47, a drummer, tells the Mail's Sharon Churcher.

"One day, when he was preparing to sodomize me, I took his old German Luger and loaded it and sat in the closet, pointing it at my mouth. Then I realized if I checked out there would be nothing to prevent [my father] from forcing my kid brother to take my place."

Page Six link (just FYI)

(The aforementioned Spacey stuff is towards the middle of the column.)

I bought the "Beyond The Sea" soundtrack from The Dollar Tree, several copies in fact and when I clean the house it makes me smile.

Now that whole deal is ruined and I will have to think about the Hell that Spacey/Fowler went through.

Still, his "Once Upon a Time" is a poem.

Awww, still enjoy it, [R37]! That sounds like a fun soundtrack; I may buy it myself.

So many actors and entertainers have supremely fucked up lives--either as children growing up, or now as stars (or I guess possibly as both). It's sad really.

The only thing we can really do is to try to appreciate and enjoy the only good qualities they are able to offer the world--which is generally their gifts and talents.

If that soundtrack helps make *cleaning* fun for you, then I hope you keep it and continue to enjoy what you've always enjoyed about it for years to come!

*messed up too 🙁

Jerry Seinfeld.

All that money and fame and he still had to have someone else's wife to marry, and apparently he's notorious for putting down his fans and all "pedestrians"/regular people (and has done so for decades). He openly looks down on them all as "lesser than" himself.

That sounds pretty miserable to me

Tim Allen

Ive always thought that Chelsea Handler had a serious substance abuse problem & maybe some mental health issues too.

Russell Crowe

Mike Tyson

Oprah

Ellen

Madge the Vadge

DeNiro

Meryl Streep, De Niro, Cher, Madonna. Mark Ruffalo, Whoops, O'Donnell, Babs and most of the rest of the "elites" in Hollywood. Assholes all!. Tim Allen is still sane.

Kit Harington is one miserable fucker.

Kit is too young to be unhappy, oh well!

R43 I have a friend who was a waiter in a restaurant in Toronto and once served Rosie O'Donnell. She said Rosie was nice and gave her a $250 tip.

I heard Patrick Stewart is a major asshole

Also, Ellen

Brie Larson

r40 that's a lot of attitude for a nightclub hack who got lucky.

It takes almost 50 replies to mention Chevy Chase?

Harrison Ford is nasty to his fans, nasty to co-stars, and a serial cheat. Cannot stand him

r51 he's also a colossally egotistical asshole who thinks it's OK to endanger the public as a pilot. Anyone else would be revoked by now.

Has anyone seen a photo of Tom Selleck or Thomas Gibson smile in the past ten years? I mean they look downright angry in every thing that they appear in or out in public.

Well, I would assume Dawson's asshole is pretty miserable by now.

I read that Gopher from the Love Boat was a complete asshole, always thowing it up in Murray's face that he never one an Emmy and telling Isaac "Oh I got it and I got to reveal it" And he said "Go ahead snort it Jules what harm will it do you?"

My 'Magnum Zenith' face

Chevy Chase

Faye Dunaway

Arianna Grande

Christina Aguilera

Oprah

Jay Z

Richard Dreyfus

Elton John

R1 had it right. Who the fuck isn't a miserable cunt in Hollywood?

Bruce Willis is apparently a seething pit of hatred and narcissism, who loathes his fans, most of his coworkers.

I wish we could throw him into said pit, R59

Amy Poehler and Tina Fey

The title should be "Stars WHO are Miserable Assholes."

I was so bummed when I heard Amy Poehler was a bitch, I really like her in everything...Tina gave off a stay out of my way vibe from the very start.

I've met Amy Poehler at after party for SNL. She was totally nice and very funny to my friends and I.

That doesn't mean she's not perpetually miserable, R64. Will Arnett should be added too.

Louie CK, although I don't know that I'd call him a star. Snappy with fans, and a stand-up, so a miserable asshole by default.

His career is going downward, so we won't be exposed to it. According to Maron, he managed to go bankrupt (if not technically, then at least lose a lot of money) again. He can't blame it on his wife anymore, like last time. His show on F/X pretty much collapsed, and his web series, which he tried to spin as a creative innovation, flopped.

Julia Roberts!

R9, Jolie is not a bitch. She's actually very sweet and approachable. No arrogance or diva attitude whatsoever.

I know, R62, don't you hate it when people make that cringing grammatical mistake? It's like they grew up on the other side of the mountain.

Marlo Thomas.

Better defer to me with complete respect and admiration or you'll see a whole other side to me real quick.

John Benjamin Hickey (if we lower the bar of what it means to be a "star".)

Michael Rapaport.

John Goodman.

Both are perpetual sourpatches with quick tempers.

I used to attend the Chicago Film Critics Awards and got to attend the after parties. I worked for one of the corporate sponsors. Shelley Long was a bitch. Bonnie Hunt was a cunt. Spacey was rude.

Jolie is a psychopath

Karen Huger is known to wipe back to front. Plus leave used maxi pads in public places.

Louis CK says he is not broke.

I lost interest in his Louie series but it had good seasons. Horace and Pete was old fashioned and I liked it. It was like a radio play in some ways.

Ben Stiller is a fucking nightmare.

I've heard that *for years* about Ben Stiller, [R78].

Sad, because I've enjoyed much of his work.

I've always wondered how he could be such a major asshole when he's had so many fantastic advantages in life and is also genuinely talented. What is there to be so miserable about for him?

Mike Meyers? Probably, he seems like the type.

Isn't Ben Stiller bipolar??

Sadly it seems anyone who is friends with Jerry Seinfeld or David Letterman seems to be their equal on asshole level.

Annie Leibovitz (a star in her field)

If anyone posts me, I will have all of you fired.

R33 nice try. Kim was the nicest one on the SITC set. She's a class act. Don't make up lies about a nice person.

Not sure if he is a star, per se, but Alton Brown can fuck right off. Let me also add Rachael Ray to the quasi-celeb pile.

[Quote] Kim was the nicest one on the SITC set. She's a class act

What were the others like??

R87 I plead the 5th. But DEF none as nice as Kim.

I think Stiller is just a taskmaster who pushes for quality in his movies and who doesn't suffer fools.

He is not like Fincher or O' Russell who are sadists.

Thank you, R70. I live and breathe to maintain my title as the Cuntiest Living Cunt Who Continues to Cunt in Hollywood.

I regularly go and take a dump on Lucille Ball's grave - that fucking lightweight.

And I'm Hollywood Fucking Royalty too, you fucking clueless yahoos!

Marlo Thomas - Cunt to the 3rd or 4th Power on a Good Day!

Why is Marlo Thomas so evil?

Why was Ted Bundy evil?

You don't have to be young or relevant or important....

to go through life making everyone you encounter as miserable as possible.

Evil can be very banal.

I don't know that Marlo Thomas is evil but the stories of her horrible behavior are legion.

She was raised to believe she was Hollywood Royalty - she's only gotten more extreme.

Re Kim Catrall. I used to work at the Bluebird in Nashville, and, one day, we got a call from someone who said that someone very important was coming that evening, and we had to have everything ready. The table needed to be private. A security man even came to the club beforehand to figure out how to best get this person in and out of the club without being seen, which is pretty difficult considering how tiny a club it is. They would absolutely not tell us who was coming, and we all thought it might be Al Gore, who is a local. It was crazy what they put us through. When the time came, it was...Kim Catrall. When she walked into the club, she walked backwards, so no one in the club could see her coming in. It was just insane. We see famous people all the time in Nashville, and I can't imagine that anyone would have given two shits about her. That said, she was actually nice and even bought the cd from that night's performer, but that whole prearrangement thing was fucking weird. I can't imagine being so famous that I couldn't somewhere without advance work.

In the Joan Rivers documentary, Ben Stiller is one of the few comedians that speaks negatively of...

She's giving her spontaneous thoughts about other comedians and her remarks are all generally positive or specific to their type of comedy until they get to Ben Stiller, and Joan says something about him along the lines of "Lucky, so fucking Lucky!"

She also said once that Will Farrell behaved horrendously to her - he basically physically pushed her out of his way while he cursed at her.

Human garden gnome Jeremy Renner is a massive cunt to his fans. If I were that tiny, I guess I'd be a fucking douche all day too.

Shia LaBeouf

Vivica Fox and Nia Long. Both on Empire, for all those who don't know who they are.

Terrance Howard beats his partners, and hates white people. Especially Robert Downey Jr.

[quote]Re Kim Catrall. I used to work at the Bluebird in Nashville, and, one day, we got a call from someone who said that someone very important was coming that evening, and we had to have everything ready. The table needed to be private. A security man even came to the club beforehand to figure out how to best get this person in and out of the club without being seen, which is pretty difficult considering how tiny a club it is.

Who does Kim Cattrall think she is — Juliette Barnes?

Ellen is the CEO of this thread, vile, constantly angry, horrible to staff, drunk and smoking her "cigs" 24/7, a true miserable cunt.

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[Quote] Human garden gnome Jeremy Renner is a massive cunt to his fans.

It's always the tiny ones.

[Quote] Terrance Howard beats his partners, and hates white people. Especially Robert Downey Jr.

That Marvel money must've been good.

It runs in that family, R99.

Miss Dionne is no picnic

Carla Gugino Paul Sorvino Robin Roberts Louis CK Nathan Lane

all terrible and miserable to all

Katie Couric. Today staff hated her.

Donna Karan. Staff on the Martha Stewart show were instructed not to look at her and when she came in the studio she barked "get out of my way" to anyone in her path.

Hardly a star, but Al Roker. Generally agreed to be a total prick.

Kim Cattrell was in one of those British Who Do You Think You Are episodes. It's on youtube. She was a total phony bitch to her father's second family who knew nothing about the connection. She didn't seem to have a sincere bone in her body. She was actually rsther cruel and haughty with these newly discovered distant relatives. I think she just went on the show to seek revenge against her father who seems to have abandoned her mother IIRC. But Kim learned that bitchiness from someone - maybe the dad fled in horror of his life.

I think it is religious entitlement, these people just think they are better because they are so pious, but in reality they are just trash grifters and leaches. The entire Houston clan falls under that category.

Here is another one of those trashy sycophants.

Reese Witherspoon.

Hilary Duff

Alton Brown

Hilary Duff???

Cissy was known to bully the other two members of Sweet Inspiration. They didn't have kind things to say about her. And I will always blame her for playing a role in Whitney's downfall!

Wondering about Jared Leto??

[quote]Jerry Seinfeld . . . . apparently he's notorious for putting down his fans and all "pedestrians"/regular people (and has done so for decades). He openly looks down on them all as "lesser than" himself.

You got that right. He's a real cunt when he gets going to his friends about how stupid people in general (and his fans in particular) are. I've heard it first hand. He also gets visibly irritated with people who ask for selfies with him (although I can't really blame him), and he mutters little insults under his breath while they're fumbling around with their phones. That said, he does pose with them, and to his credit he's very patient and friendly with little kids who come up to him.

He also loves to pull into a restaurant or hotel with some impossibly rare Porsche, insist that it be parked right in front, and then goes batshit crazy when anyone goes within 50 feet of the damn thing.

Angela Lansbury is a terrible drunk, extremely verbally abusive, cruel and vindictive. She isn't a diva, she's a monster that will not die. She is loathed. Of course there is the terrible way she treated her husband and children in service of her ambition. Suck a fake ass 'legend.'

I WEAR THE PANTS !!

R38,

You are the sweetest person I have ever encountered on the Data Lounge.

I will enjoy the soundtrack thinking of you and your kind heart.

Thankfully she's dead, but Eartha Kitt was a total waste of space. A professional victim who'd use any situation to her benefit. Also a complete racist who loved white people and hated people of color. Huge supporter of Reagan and no doubt would have loved Trump. No wonder African Americans dub female Uncle Tom behavior "Eartha Kittism".

r114 Hideous, but it fits her inner self.

r55

Everyone in Congress hated him too.

r116 interesting. I thought she was resentful of the black community because she felt they didn't support her, especially when she took a hit for being political. I didn't realize she was actually a Reagan fan. Sad.

r109 yes. Heard some stories about her being a nasty bitch to people around her and to her ex. He allegedly consoled himself on the road, so to speak. (He's a former hockey player.)

Terrance Howard beats his partners, and hates white people. Especially Robert Downey Jr. "

A couple of years ago, someone posted paragraph after paragraph about how awful Howard was on the "Iron Man" set, and why nobody wanted him back for the second film. If those posts represent Downey's feelings in any way, and I suspect they represent the feelings of everyone who's ever worked with that douche, then the bad feelings are mutual.

R112 That about Seinfeld just reminded me of something.

I'd just moved to Los Angeles and I was driving down Fountain. I noticed Seinfeld in a Porsche in the lane next to mine. I glanced over, and he saw me glance over. When we go to a light, he was still in the lane next to mine, but he stayed back. In other words, he declined to pull up next to me, for fear of being glanced at again!

To show you how long ago this was, I was exploring around West Hollywood, and I drove by the Viper Room and saw it from the outside for the first time. Later that night, River Phoenix would die right there.

I've read that Lauren Bacall was pretty much a dick she deemed wasn't up to her standards. Doris Day wasn't a fan of her or Kirk Douglas

What? Angela Lansbury is awful? I had no idea. :(

I nominate Patrica Heaton.

Is Heaton that bad besides her politics? I've never heard any on the set things bad about her. Cyibill Shepard on the other hand. The crew applauded when her shit-show was canned,

R119 Duff and that Doughboy hockey player are both assholes. He's worse than she is though. He's a known pig that sexually harasses the women that don't want to fuck him. He's currently fighting rape charges.

R123 he's joking.

I've worked with Miss Lansbury and you won't find a nicer, more decent human being. Seriously. She's otherworldly in that regard.

and Ann B Davis

r125 Not that he's not a pig, but he hasn't been charged with anything yet. There was another woman there for a three-way, and she didn't file charges, and probably didn't corroborate the accuser's story or he would've (and should've) been charged. It's possible the other woman didn't witness it, but he allegedly assaulted her more than once.

On topic, I don't understand why Duff is so miserable when she probably has more than enough money for life, and can leave the business if she wants. She probably has enough name recognition to do more as well, if she wanted. I could see stars trapped in typecasting, or aging boybanders turning into cunts, but it's the power tripping bullshit that's ridiculous.

Carrie Underwood is another one with a bad reputation for being a demanding bitch behind the scenes, & she also has an NHL partner.

I'm the guy who posted about Kim Catrall. I've encountered Carrie Underwood MANY times. When you are working with her, she is a complete and total bitch. I've ran into her a few times outside of writing rooms and studios, however, and she was not as vile as when she is "working."

Interesting about Stiller. Stiller isn't a softie, but he isn't a straight up asshole either. He's actually pretty intelligent, and a great conversationalist. You're never bored if you meet up for dinner, or coffee. Gives pretty decent advice. Listens well. Has tons of stories about "old Hollywood", and he has no problem with talking to fans, or hanging out in places where he may be recognized.

Someone upthread wrote that he doesn't suffer fools. That assessment is quite succinct.

r130 Total nepotist case, and he hasn't done one good movie or TV show, his performance isn't great for all his alleged doesn't suffer fools stuff, of course dl doesn't get it and gushes over some idiot, and educated, phhh.

Vicki Lawrence seems nice.

I know that she and Carol still email each other.

R119: Kitt's obituary: Kitt also supported President Ronald Reagan when it was unfashionable within the show business community. "I like him very much," she said. "I'm not kidding. ... Basically, his ideas are good. I do not believe in giveaway programs."

She was blacklisted for her playing South Africa and this was her reasoning: "I believe I'm doing something for the nonwhites by being here. Not coming would mean not knowing what it's like here, and not caring."

She also claimed she funded schools in SA by signing autographs at a department store for one weekend. She should have signed autographs for a year and she could have funded schools all throughout Africa.

Eartha Kitt was a cunt.

Christina Aguilera. First hand knowledge here - perhaps she was "just having a bad day".

Read on Facebook yesterday that Kitty allegedly had a threesome with James Dean and Paul Newman! I know women like her - they love being the exotic sex toys for white men!

Eartha Kitt, not Kitty!!

Mark Wahlberg

Jodie Foster

Uh, hello? Shirley MacLaine

Only if she doesn't have her creme brulee, r139!!

Alec Baldwin, Alec Baldwin, Alec Baldwin.

I guess Kim Basinger too. Basinger and Baldwin terrorized Hollywood during their brief marriage and on the set of whatever movie that was.

"I've always wondered how he could be such a major asshole when he's had so many fantastic advantages in life and is also genuinely talented. What is there to be so miserable about for him?"

Sounds more like a spoiled asshole, not necessarily miserable, although the people around him probably are.

Renner's fantards and fellow actors usually gush about how nice he is... Thai Ladyboys, not so much...

Jerry Lewis, plus another vote for Kevin Spacey.

I have songwriter friends in Los Angeles, and they told me even before Christine Augawhatever was very difficult even before her first album was released. My friends wrote early on for the project and recorded a bunch of demos with her, and complained that she was hell to work with. I can only imagine that she is worse now that she is successful.

It's sub-adult to list people simply because you disagree with their politics.

The worst are of course Mel Gibson and Madonna.

Comedians are also notoriously miserable assholes:

Rosie O'Donnell

Bill Murray (his public image is completely at odds with his reality)

Mike Myers

Jerry Seinfeld

Martin Freeman

Ellen DeGeneres (ditto)

I think Terence Howard is a great actor and very handsome but he always seems to be trouble.

R145, she's no longer successful.

Tobey Maguire. I bet it hasn't helped his career. DiCaprio is the only one he seems to be genuinely kind, sincere and loyal to. He is an authentice monster to everybody else. The stories about how he treats those who are low on the hierarchy are legion and unpleasant.

"Don't forget me, bitches."

Except no one but you has ever heard of those stories, R151.

Except every person who's ever met her. Fuck. You. Cunt.

Sorry, that note was for R150

"Cunt" retracted.

Guess you touched a nerve, r152.

I think it's just this: Gobs of money makes you a horrible person.

R43 Mark Ruffalo ? ?? Say it ain't so , I'm a big fan of his work . Dish please .

R152, here is one exemple at the link.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that Kate Hepburn was an unhappy person as well. She came across as a very controlling and very Ridgid person despite her attempts to appear otherwise.

William Hurt. He beat Marlee Matlin and he got drunk in NY, grabbed the bartender by throat , and threatened to kick his ass after he was cut off .

Confirming that Alton Brown is (or has become) a miserable asshole. Arch conservative, super-religious, notorious (private) anti-Semite and possible homophobe. He was so much nicer back when he was fat, apparently. Huge closet case, according to some, which might explain the rest of him.

Susan Sarandon always took herself a bit too seriously, IMHO (for a cute gal who built her career on showing off her boobs), but she has devolved into a desperate, hot box of crazy, post-Tim.

Repeating multiple first-hand accounts, there is nothing miserable or assholic about Meryl (mentioned upthread) or Lily Tomlin, two ladies I admire. They are both troopers and appear happy in their maturity. But many of their more emo fans might be put off by how "grande-dame" they both frequently behave around the public. Don't expect group hugs, or even the time of day, for that matter. Not bitchiness. Just a chilly bit of hauteur, cause they got better stuff to do.

Letterman

thread closed

I think Katherine Hepburn was a control freak and had a huge ego. I browsed one of her autobiographies once on a long night in a library and she came across incredibly smug and full of her self.

Very unpleasant person.

Ben Barfleck

Ryan Grosling

Michael Assbender

Julian Assange

Hepburn was a completely manufactured product, a result of her own ferocious ambition and the old studio-making machinery.

It's always been shocking to me how the press and public bought into the weird myth of this "unpretentious" (yet, oh, the pretense!), sensible Yankee dame so madly in love with (homosexual, drunk) Spencer Tracey.

A singular presence onscreen? Sure.

An acting legend? Mmmm, maybe not so much...

Mark Ruffalo is the epitome of a regressive lefty. Means well but isn't smart enough to see through the BS.

William Hurt is the worst. he started to establish a presence here in Portland, OR doing local theater but he behaved so badly in productions with directors and cast members and stagehands that he became notorious as impossible to work with.

[quote] Angela Lansbury is a terrible drunk, extremely verbally abusive, cruel and vindictive. She isn't a diva, she's a monster that will not die. She is loathed. Of course there is the terrible way she treated her husband and children in service of her ambition. Suck a fake ass 'legend.'

Fake News!!

[quote] Eartha Kitt was a cunt.

I'm glad someone stated it. I'm too much of a lady.

what, over a hundred posts and nobody has mentioned anne hathaway? she's a fucking cunt!

DLers, you guys are slipping! No mention of that fat cunt russell crowe? He was so pissed off at the front desk person that he came downstairs with the hotel phone and threw it at him! I never paid a single cent to watch him in anything since. fucking cow.

Any details please on how Amy Poehler is unpleasant? Genuinely surprised at this one as it goes against all that I have read about her. Her co-workers seem to love her. Tina fey is less surprising.

Michael Strahan!

Susan Sarandon

My co-workers. Oh wait, they're not famous, just assholes.

[quote] R116: Thankfully she's dead, but Eartha Kitt was a total waste of space. A professional victim who'd use any situation to her benefit. Also a complete racist who loved white people and hated people of color. Huge supporter of Reagan and no doubt would have loved Trump. No wonder African Americans dub female Uncle Tom behavior "Eartha Kittism".

I met Eartha Kitt in 1980 when I was sweeping the floor at a club she's appearing in. We had a really nice chat. Then I mentioned that there was a plant I had just learned about growing naturally in the parking lot. She said she'd never seen a pot plant before. I believed her at the time, but now realize she was putting me on for some reason. AnywY, I took her outside and showed her the plant, as she seemed so sincere.

I've had very few brushes with greatness, but Eartha seemed sweet as pie to this janitor.

[quote] R164: I think Katherine Hepburn was a control freak and had a huge ego. I browsed one of her autobiographies once on a long night in a library and she came across incredibly smug and full of her self.

About 1990, I wrote Katherine Hepburn for an autograph. Her personal assistant wrote me back: "Miss. Hepburn does not send autographs, or anything else, through the mail" to fans. Well, at least she bothered to write to let me know. That is to her credit.

Kim Cattral being nice? I guess I can speak only from my own experiences, but I witnessed her having two meltdowns within weeks of each other: one at a private screening of a movie no one ever saw (Meet Monica Velour), and then shortly after at a lunch (at La Grenouille) for the same movie.

I guess it's possible that she was going through an unusually rough patch in her life and was not acting like herself, but...somehow I doubt it.

Plus I've heard and read other not so flattering Cattral stories over the years.

William Hurt came very close to getting run over by a train on the set of that Greg Allman movie -- which did run over a female crew member. Very little press about it outside of Georgia, it seems. They were shooting on a track without a permit and it turned out to be active, not retired. Whole crew including Hurt had 30 seconds to get off bridge before train came barrelling through.

R178, I remember those stories. Hepburn herself used to do it and people just tore off the letter and kept her signature. In other words, why go to the trouble of writing a denial letter when someone is asking for an autograph and you essentially give it to them anyways?

R130 I don't doubt a word of what you said. But I've worked with him at test screenings, and he can be quite capricious and arbitrary. And less than pleasant to deal with.

r182 the problem is his talent to behaviour ratio is low, like the old football saying "You don't have that much talent to be that much of an asshole"

[quote] DLers, you guys are slipping! No mention of that fat cunt russell crowe?

Joan will take care of that.

[quote]Louis C.K. [...] His career is going downward, so we won't be exposed to it.

It is? He just wrapped up a hugely successful nine month tour in which he probably made millions of dollars.

Trevor Noah

[Quote] yes. Heard some stories about her being a nasty bitch to people around her and to her ex.

Is her sister Haylie an asshole too?? Someone in another thread said the whole Duff family are racists.

[Quote] Ryan Grosling

For some reason this doesn't surprise me.

r185 the stand up is his strong suit, but it's gotten a lot weaker, perhaps partially because he's spread himself too thin. He'll make money off it, but his arc is trending downward, particularly after the way his F/X show ended. There was a lot of spin on it, but it wasn't positive. I don't imagine fucking over John Landegraaf will make too many people eager to work with you.

I enjoyed few of the Hepburn performances. Katharine and Audrey. But here are some exceptions for each.

Audrey seemed like a likeable and pleasant person. Katharine like a miserable fake cunt.

Kate Hepburn knew how to craft a public image and work it. And she did it brilliantly. Like Greta Garbo, both earned and deserved their public reputations as Great Ladies of the Silver Screen.

Steep may be a nicer person in private, but she's bought into her public image hook line and sinker. Gone is the humbleness she had in her younger interviews that made her so appealing. I loved her Trump speech but the Lagerfeld comments (speaking of haughty) and the forced standing ovation at this years Oscars were ridiculous. Say what you want about Kate, but the public never got tired of her the way they have with Streep. And while I think Hepburn did care about the Oscars more than she let on, I also don't think she ever would have pulled a stunt like what Streep did to Emma Thompson.

Louis CK- He's also a perv. I think his downfall will be coming soon. He's hosting SNL next week, maybe he will be stupid enough to try and jerk off in front of female cast members.

More about Bruce Willis, please, who by all accounts has been a miserable diva cunt for decades. No wonder he has a hard time getting work, he's someone you only put up with if they're a guaranteed moneymaker.

Justin Beaver

Paul Simon. At the concert at Madison Square garden to benefit 9/11 families he was the only star who made huge demands. Wanted top billing, to go on last etc. I know this first hand.

Also can personally vouch for the kind, down-to-earth nature of Eartha Kitt.

R195, are you white?

What is it that Ellen does that makes her such a cunt? She seems happy and smiling on tv, I have a hard time imagining what behavior of hers could be so bad. Can someone give some examples?

r197 Kathy Griffin mentioned after her only appearance on Ellen that she was very nasty to the crew. There's many other accounts that pretty much are the same. Supposedly a mean drunk.

My Dad got a check from Katherine Hepburn for some work he did on her house in Connecticut. Apparently, some of the the old time performers made a point of paying with personal checks, knowing that the creditor would not deposit the check, but would instead keep the check for the signature. My Dad photocopied the check using early 1970s technology, and framed the copy for the office. He cashed the check.

Why hasn't anyone mentioned that phony, emaciated, hangry, Adderalled-up, tantrum-throwing Kelly Ripa? Since you all lust for her husband's moist taint, I'm surprised she hasn't been the subject of every fifth post.

[quote] Say what you want about Kate, but the public never got tired of her the way they have with Streep.

Hello? Ever hear about when she was named Box Office Poison in 1937?

Sounds like an old movie: "Box Office Poison of 1937" from Paramount. Directed by Billy Wilder.

Is Faye "La La Land" Dunaway really that miserable?

R200 she also has practically no hair left - it's all extensions now. I know who used to highlight her hair but she had to get it done too much and too often (and too blonde) for the show so I mean forget it.

Sarah Michelle Gellar has the same problem (though I'm unsure who does or did her hair).

R204 I have always wondered this about many stars, especially Madonna (yes, I'm bringing up Madonna). She has been bleaching her hair for decades and decades, and I remember reading somewhere that, during "Blonde Ambition," she would get her roots done something like every three days. Is Madonna...maybe...bald?

Andrew McCarthy - mean, nasty, dry, former drunk.

Guy Ritchie, ugly, homophobic, talentless waste of time and money

Woody Allen... what a piece of shit

This thread died fast. Perhaps it is being boycotted because the title should have been Stars WHO are... OP: if the answer to the question is person, you use "who." If it's an inanimate object -- i.e. a building or a corporation -- you use "that."

[102] I've worked with Carla Gugino and seen her several times since over the years. She could not have been nicer.

[quote]What is it that Ellen does that makes her such a cunt? She seems happy and smiling on tv, I have a hard time imagining what behavior of hers could be so bad. Can someone give some examples?

One story that has gone around was that Ellen was a bitch to the writers who wrote her jokes for the Oscars.

Ellen is a drunk, a mean and nasty drunk, she's also a "thrower" and a "kicker", she'll kick her trash can over and screech about everything from her lunch to her wife. Ellen is an ogre.

Why is Portia still with her??

Why are comedians always such awful people? Ellen is wildly successful and has more money than she can spend in one lifetime, yet she sounds like a nightmare.

R214 Portia sticks around for financial reasons.

Danny Pintauro's asshole must be pretty miserable after taking so much infected cum. Oh wait, I almost forgot, OP said "stars" and not fifth bananas on the worst thing Embassy ever made with or without Norman Lear around (and yes, I include [italic]Hello, Larry[/italic] and [italic]AKA Pablo[/italic] in that statement).

Ellen's a saint compared to Rosie O'Donnell who turns literally everything she touches into a war zone.

Most of the well known dykes in the entertainment business are awful people. Melissa Etheridge is another awful dyke like Ellen and Rosie.

Ellen Page seems nice.

some really stupid person or people in this thread...why would portia stay with ellen? what a retarded question.

Zooey Deschanel

Emmy Rossum

David Boreanaz

Rob Lowe

Jenna Elfman

Thomas Gibson

The only stupid person here is you R221

ZOE SALDANA!!

Within the production office walls Rosie was a SAINT compared to Ellen, no comparison, Ellen is 1000% caustic, imperious, snide and a drunk. It's literally a war zone. And YES, people stay because of the money, including the fellow drunk wife.

[quote]Ellen Page seems nice.

She is a Canadian midget. But, yeah she seems like the only nice Hollywood dyke.

David Beckham and whatshername... Both are endlessly sullen and moody no talents. Trapped in a viscous cycle of celebrity and anorexia.

[quote] Trapped in a viscous cycle

of nacreous permacum.

I met Ellen back in the days when her stand-up was big and she'd just been voted "Funniest Woman in America" or something. She wasn't exactly warm and effusive but she wasn't a bitch either. Just calm, maybe a little tense. But it was a pressure situation so why not?

Which leads me to my question, both in terms of celebrities and the general public: WHEN did Getting Angry become a sign of asshole behavior? I see this all the time and it annoys the fuck out of me. Anger is a primal emotion and, as long as one doesn't take it out on the wrong person, yell at the secretary when they are mad at the boss, why is it wrong to express it? I am not advocating screaming at every person who gets in the way -- but kicking a trash can over in frustration? That doesn't sound like grounds for even the word Asshole.

Or is a recoil from anger just one more step forward in Pussy Nation? I really do want to know.

r187 Haylie Duff is perfectly lovely. Very sweet gal.

[quote] Most of the well known dykes in the entertainment business are awful people. Melissa Etheridge is another awful dyke like Ellen and Rosie.

Liberal women are always miserable cunts under the surface. My boyfriend's mother is just such an example.

R229 It's like the definition of mental illness. What is just another shade of normal becomes a mental illness when it becomes serious enough that it hinders your ability to live your life. From what posters are posting here it sounds like Ms. Ellen has become somebody whose anger issues are toxic and overshadow everything else in her life. With regards to the"wussification" of society, sounds like your own personal issue. We are a social species. This means you need to show some self-control and not go throwing furniture just because you are pissed off. It's called acting like an adult.

Gay people are justified in being angry at our oppressors. At this point, any gay person who doesn't hate the enemies of gay people with a righteous rage big enough to spark revolutionary ultraviolence is a sellout.

Breeders are sub-subhuman garbage. Being nice to them is literally like casting pearls before swine.

I don't know why, but I feel like I need to defend Victoria Beckham. True, her husband seems a bit much -- but what hugely successful sports star isn't? -- but Victoria always seems amusing and self-aware in every interview I've seen of her. I don't know her personally, but she seems like a good person. Sure, she milks her celebrity for all it's worth. Wouldn't anyone? Her singing talents are marginal at best, but she was lucky and became successful. Is it her fault? I don't know how much of her clothing line she actually designs, but her clothes are beautiful and very well made. Yes, she is milking her celebrity to push her clothing line, but good for her for not just lunching and shopping all day. She's actually working. She might look sullen in photos, but that is just her pose. She seems to have a wicked sense of humor in interviews I've read. Just because you don't like someone or think they don't deserve their fame, that does not mean that they are "miserable assholes." Save that word for people who mistreat people and are generally rude and insensitive.

R229, you sound like an asshole, and one who refuses to believe he's an asshole! Yes, anger is a normal emotion, but in a society where we're so much in close contact with other people we need to be careful about how it's expressed. Kicking over a trash can is fine if nobody else is around to wonder what you're going to kick next and if you pick up the trash yourself, but the fact is that most people who like to express anger use it to intimidate or dominate others - intentionally or unintentionally (usually intentionally). And just so you know, under most circumstances nobody likes angry people or enjoys being around them, nobody except politicians who like to manipulate and direct it towards their enemies.

Don't get me started on the political anger industry, R229, just learn to control yourself when you're around other people.

I have heard many times insults about Ellen, how she's angry, mean, horrible etc, and yet I have never read a single example. Ever. With the huge amount of people she has worked with since the early 90s you'd think one of them out there would have posted something by now. Nothing.

I thought Jeremy Piven and Ayre Gross had less then kind things to say about her?

R237 Greg Fitzsimons a producer/writer on Ellen has been pretty vocal about the toxic environment behind the scene. Fiitzsimons won four Emmys for his work on Ellen. He's not some disgruntled PA.

Whatever happened to Arye Gross?

Thanks for answering R230. It wouldn't surprise me if all lifetime movie sets were terrible lol

[quote] Greg Fitzsimons a producer/writer on Ellen has been pretty vocal about the toxic environment behind the scene. Fiitzsimons won four Emmys for his work on Ellen. He's not some disgruntled PA.

And yet nothing at your link gives any example or explanation as to why working for Ellen was bad. Or as he says : “It was so heinous. It was so toxic". We always get the adjectives but nothing concrete it is so annoying! How come we never get a simple quote or example of what Ellen does or says?

From the link : "eventually got himself fired from The Ellen Degeneres Show staff by ditching production meetings and openly insulting other staff members because he was so miserable." Well that's on him not Ellen.

Bill Maher - at least to women

Sean Penn

Michael Moore

I feel like people are just naming people at random. Tina Fey is super nice, completely sweet and easy to talk to. Did someone really have a bad experience with her?

Bette Midler, on the other hand...

I am not an Ellen fan and I sense there is a dark side to her... but yeah, where are the examples? Same with Tina Fey.

Nah, still not buying it. Physical violence? No. Scaring defenseless animals or children? God, no. Taking out frustrations on some sales clerk who had nothing to do with them? Fuck no, either. Yelling in one's car with the window's rolled up or, yes, kicking a trash can over if that's your thing: just sounds like a bad day to me.

So many Mood Police out there. Hope there's not a heart attack in your future from holding it all in and being "civilized". I encourage folks to vent, myself.

I live in a town of less than 10,000 people. Tim Allen married a girl that was in my son's class all thru school. They would come here for Christmas and would go to midnight Mass at my church. They always left before mass was over so he wouldn't have to interact with anyone.

Sharon Stone's grandmother lived 35 miles north of me and she would fly into our local airport. I flew in and out of that airport plenty of times and never were there more than 10 people in that airport at any one time. It only flies small planes as the airport is small. There is never more than one small commercial plane at this airport at any time. Sharon would fly in but never enter the bldg. and would have a car pick her up on the tarmac.

These people always make me laugh because they make themselves so important.

I completely agree with you R235 - you write incredibly well. And I agree with you about Victoria Beckham. Het Vogue 73 questions are my fave.

Her*

[quote] Angela Lansbury is a terrible drunk, extremely verbally abusive, cruel and vindictive. She isn't a diva, she's a monster that will not die. She is loathed. Of course there is the terrible way she treated her husband and children in service of her ambition. Suck a fake ass 'legend.'

Leave her alone, Julie. Now I know why Rob Marshall (no relation to Sean Marshall) asked her for the sequel to your Oscar-winning role and not you, and not just because Walt Disney asked her first but she'd already taken an offer from Jack Warner the same year he passed you over for Audrey Hepburn in [italic]My Fair Lady[/italic]. And as for her children, she left the country to save Deirdre's life. It cost her [italic]Mame[/italic] on screen but would that have been worth her daughter getting deeper and deeper into the Manson Family? By the way, are your two Vietnamese girls still locked away in an institution?

[quote]I am not an Ellen fan and I sense there is a dark side to her... but yeah, where are the examples? Same with Tina Fey.

Tina Fey has admitted that she can be a bitch. I think Fey is probably nicer and more stable than Ellen D. There are tons of stories of staff turnovers on Ellen's show and also stories of how she treats staff members. With Tina Fey, it's been known that she clashed with Colin Quinn and others during her SNL days. But, with 30 Rock writers and many crew members said they enjoyed working under Fey and many of them later returned to work with her for Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.

Some posters have already mentioned Cissy Houston. Here's a clip from the infamous Oprah interview.

Oprah: Would it have bothered you if Whitney was gay?

Cissy: Absolutely.

Oprah: You would not have liked that?

Cissy: Not at all.

I taught him well, r59.

R250

MAME came 5 years after the Manson shit.

"She seems happy and smiling on tv, I have a hard time imagining what behavior of hers could be so bad."

That seems rather naive of you. Playing a Happy Host on TV is different than how most stars conduct their real lives. Do you think aactors who play villains are bad people because they seem that way on TV?

My friend lasted one day working for Ellen. She forgot thaw she could not look at or greet Ellen and wished her a good morning. At least they lst her finish the day before they sacked her. She said it was a blanket policy for all the "talent".

Sorry about all the typos. I was trying to finish my post quickly because my break had ended.

ooh, that's not good, R255. And that "don't look at me" stuff is really ridiculous when it's Staff.

I hope your friend manages to get out a good "Fuck you" should she ever run into her again.

r257 I'd actually defend the 'don't look at me' in this case if the rumours of her being an unstable alcoholic are true. It's probably hard enough to eke out a facade in front of the cameras. Having to engage with the staff would be too much. With people that close to the edge, even a normal, professional greeting could send them into a meltdown. A lot of users become paranoid, and that's not what you want when trying to do a show. I'm not condoning the behaviour, and obviously she needs help, but I can see the other side of it.

As to the blanket policy, it's to not single out Ellen, and run counter to her image.

Agree, R232.

The blanket policy is probably also because many other celebrities have a similar demand.

All about control. They can't control people staring on the street so they bully where they can and make stupid demands.

Remember back in the day when Demi Moore tried to exercise creative approval over every photo taken of her at Cannes one year? Everyone just laughed and told her she was out of her mind if she thought she could somehow control something like that -- 10000 photographers snapping away. Hilariously deluded.

Go on Youtube and watch clips of Dionne Warwick on Celebrity Apprentice. She's a mean, crazy old bitch.

[Quote] Remember back in the day when Demi Moore tried to exercise creative approval over every photo taken of her at Cannes one year? Everyone just laughed and told her she was out of her mind if she thought she could somehow control something like that -- 10000 photographers snapping away. Hilariously deluded.

Sometimes i forget just how out of touch some of these celebrities can be.

R214, Portia di Rossi (aka Mandy Peters, back in the day) also suffers from terminally low self-esteem. She has a history of depression and eating disorders (and according to some, an addiction to cosmetic surgery).

It's a shame, because she's always been pretty and had some solid comedic acting chops in ALLY MCBEAL, ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT (she was brilliant, they all were), and the underappreciated BETTER OFF TED. I don't hear bad stories about her from cast or crew.

At least Ellen's money allows Portia to her all her charity work. But we know who wears the pants in that marriage, literally and figuratively.

I was really surprised to hear the rumors about Ellen. But they've been around a while. If she's that out of control it's pretty ballsy to end each show with "be kind to one another ". Just say see ya tomorrow.

Kevin Hart

I would guess Tim Allen and any outspoken Republican, like Patricia Heaton.

I wouldn't say she is miserable I think she quite likes the life she has achieved with no talent or effort thanks to her father. But I have seen first hand Blake Lively be a total bitch to everyone on set extras, crew, and the director included. And it was quite obvious that the crew did not like her so it wasn't just a having a bad day situation. On the other hand her costar for gossip girl Leighton Meester was quite nice with a fun sense of humour.

" Hi, I'm Demi Moore. You know, as in semi-bright. Anyway, look I know I like to shimmy along a floor, have had trouble with booze and drug and still enjoy misusing cans of frozen dairy whip BUT I demand control over any images taken of me and/or my three untalented daughters. Yes, that includes Potato Head. "

Who's her father?

R270 Her father is Eric Lively an actor and her mother is a talent manager. I was told by someone that knew their family in high school that Blake was always a rich brat and when she got offer the part in Gossip Girl she didn't really even want it. Oh and she couldn't wait for the show to end because she was unhappy with her pay but stuck in a contract. They actually all loved complaining how over the show they were. Guess she was hoping Green Lantern wouldn't be the flop it turned out to be and as for the rest of the cast Gossip Girl is still their biggest hit. To bad they couldn't appreciate it. I certainly would with 50,000 a week in my pocket.

No shit, Eric Lively was one of the many Rusty's in the "Vacation" movies. Had no idea that was her dad. He must have had her early, she seems so old and he seems too young to have one that age.

Actually he is her brother.

Ahhh, that makes more sense. Eric was a cutie.

R235 I feel exactly the same about Victoria Beckham. I remember reading an interview with her when her first child was a toddler. The interviewer was astounded Victoria arrived by taking the bus! She said "I think it's important Brooklyn learns how to use public transport."

Then another interview a few years later when her kids were older, she said they always make her be goalie when they play soccer because "they know mum is crap."

She's great fun and doesn't take herself too seriously. Even with her poses, you can almost see the wink. She's very self aware and realises the luck she's had.

Tia Mowry

Vivica A. Fox

[Quote] I was told by someone that knew their family in high school that Blake was always a rich brat and when she got offer the part in Gossip Girl she didn't really even want it. Oh and she couldn't wait for the show to end because she was unhappy with her pay but stuck in a contract. They actually all loved complaining how over the show they were. Guess she was hoping Green Lantern wouldn't be the flop it turned out to be and as for the rest of the cast Gossip Girl is still their biggest hit. To bad they couldn't appreciate it. I certainly would with 50,000 a week in my pocket.

Sounds similar to the cast of The OC. I think that happens alot and it's not like GG was groundbreaking. Whoever handled Blake's pr was amazing. She was everywhere and it still makes me laugh that she was "looked at" for Gravity.

Sebastian Stan has bigger gigs than Gossip Girl

Bethenney Frankel

[quote]MAME came 5 years after the Manson shit.

Yes and no. The movie was finished and released by that point, but its pre-production overlapped with the Manson trial. The day they convicted Manson, Angela was in Boston rehearsing [italic]Prettybelle[/italic], and she left for Ireland after it closed. Manson would have gotten the chair if not for a California Supreme Court ruling the following year that declared the death penalty unconstitutional; voters overturned it with a proposition but the pre-ruling death sentences, including but not limited to Manson's, were still downgraded to life without parole.

Regardless of the time frame, Angela was never going to do Mame onscreen.

[quote]Most of the well known dykes in the entertainment business are awful people. Melissa Etheridge is another awful dyke like Ellen and Rosie.

You are so full of shit. I know many lesbians in the business and for the most part they're good people, give back to the community, and quietly give money and their time to underfunded causes.

R279 please don't flatter her that she's an actual "star." She would love nothing more.

[quote]Within the production office walls Rosie was a SAINT compared to Ellen, no comparison, Ellen is 1000% caustic, imperious, snide and a drunk. It's literally a war zone.

You keep using that word, "literally." I do not think it means what you think it means.

[quote]Most of the well known dykes in the entertainment business are awful people. Melissa Etheridge is another awful dyke like Ellen and Rosie.

You are so full of shit. I know many lesbians in the business and for the most part they're good people, give back to the community, and quietly give money and their time to underfunded causes.

LOL. Lots of miserable assholes are very charitable and devote time to causes. It's a bit fucked up but whatever. I believe most do so because they actually want to and (of course) to offset their predominately everyday rudeness.

R247 - why would Stone need to enter the terminal/building? I worked for some billionaires for a few years and flew with them around the world on their jets. Never entered buildings. And many times, no customs whatsoever on international arrivals. Hollywood stars have billionaire egos even if they are only multimillionaires.

R286, I don't believe that Sharon Stone is private jet-type rich in her own right.

It's hard to understand but it's baffling how much contempt stars have for the world after a certain point, maybe due to how bad they were treated initially, maybe just due to some human disease that doesn't respond well to always getting one's way. An actor friend let me use his beach place near Pacific Palisades, gorgeous L.A., right? Sounds perfect, a whole month of beach living with the rich and famous.

And it was miserable. Nobody would come out there unless it was a day trip -- too much traffic, too much hassle. And I'd never seen so much barely repressed anger. Even the Starbucks felt differently. Everyone just looked angry all the time. Angry because they didn't get what they'd hoped, angry because they got it and it wasn't what they thought it would be, who knows.

It's the kind of place where two actually (or maybe relatively) nice people like Ken Olin and Patricia Wettig can end up with a heroin addicted daughter somehow. It's all a lot more "Maps to the Stars" than anyone wants to admit. I'm still amazed at the level of anger, suspicion and guardedness from people who seem to have it all on the surface. As a porn star once said, "I thought I had boundary issues but these people built the fucking wall."

Love R288 post. So interesting to hear about their lives. It is hard to imagine having so much and still being so miserable. Would love to hear any other insights/details/stories if you can.

R289-- I have a classmate from Business School who ended up being the CEO of an extremely well known and successful company. They were bought out, and she walked away with millions and millions and millions. She is fairly well known in the business world, and people who follow her industry. We're still friends, and I'm occasionally copied on emails where people bend over backwards to be with her, invite her out for dinner, or to their house for the weekend. She is nice-enough but not exactly the kind of person you would be so aggressive about hanging with if she weren't well known and crazy rich. She remains close mostly to those of us who knew her before she got rich because, rightly, she mistrusts the motives of these new people. From the outside, it is pretty apparent to me why they are trying to befriend her. People know her name, but don't know what she looks like, so she can walk around with anonymity. Now imagine if you were a celebrity who everyone knew who were ? You would HAVE to have the biggest wall around you, just to protect you from people trying to get something from you. I don't begrudge the ill-tempered celebrity. Being on guard all the time, and not being able to trust anyone must be the worst type of prison.

[quote]I live in a town of less than 10,000 people. Tim Allen married a girl that was in my son's class all thru school. They would come here for Christmas and would go to midnight Mass at my church. They always left before mass was over so he wouldn't have to interact with anyone.

I despise Tim Allen, but I can kinda see his point here. It's church, not a meet and greet, and how would it look if he's posing for selfies, signing autographs, and generally playing celebrity after church? If he doesn't do those things he's a dick. He's sort of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in that situation.

I'm from a small town, and even though I'm not famous at all, I live in mortal fear of crowds when I go back, because without fail someone walks up to me and expects me to know them because we went to 4th grade together, or her father worked with my father back in 1973. I can only imagine how much worse those situations would be for someone famous.

Julia Fucking Roberts

[fontname=verdana] IS a [bold/italic]Miserable Cunt

R273 Yes sorry I meant to write Ernie not Eric. Eric was just on my mind cause he is a hottie. Also heard from my friend apparently he was quite gay in high school, but then pushed that under the rug once he tried to make an acting career for himself.

Maggie Gyllenhaal thinks VERY highly of herself.

You delusional saps.

Victoria Beckham is an arch-cunt.

When she tried to go R&B prior to her husband's affair being exposed, I was at a call for dancers for a video she was going to film. Rude, late, belligerent, unpleasant and had to refilm take after take of her trying to act interested in what was going on by getting out 2 sentences coherently with the choreographer. Total nightmare.

Of the same era Kylie, Jamelia, Natasha Bedingfield, Rachel Stevens and Robbie Williams were varying degrees of nice and alert but all were total pros.

Yes R288, I'd love to hear more too!

This is when I started hating Ellen. Thinking she is above the adopting pet rules. Vilifying the woman who ran the shelter, causing her to be stalked for doing the responsible thing and checking in. Ellen even admits this, but I guess because she's "Ellen" it should be okay.

R284, Fuck off cunt!

Hey R284, you preening miserable asshole!

sorry, weird, my title up top says STARS... thread but this is clearly the CASH BAR WEDDING thread. how weird.

I like and understand [R290]'s post but I also wonder just what it is they are so afraid of -- people hitting on them to help make them stars? As if they could do anything but intro them to their agents who would never bite (and I just can't see strangers on the street doing that anyway, not even wannabe actors). Writers pitching bad movie ideas? Can see it for Leo or someone like that and it really is a pain but not the average TV star. Stalkers? I guess,. Death threats? Sure, that changes everything but does that happen daily (in these times where it's easy to trace and arrest)?

I will say this: when I met them in a controlled environment, like an office or on a lot, there wasn't so much weirdness. Everyone relaxed for the most part and seemed decent. But in those westside villages (and these weren't all movie stars, of course),. everyone looked skittish as if praying not be spoken to, rushed, pissed in general. Personally, I always get the feeling that the successful ones are deathly afraid of losing it all which happens more often than not in that fickle business -- I knew a guy who knew Molly Cheek who bought Corbin Bernsen's house when he was no longer on "L.A. Law" and struggling and couldn't afford it anymore. She was on a series and could -- until that series ended and then SHE had to sell it. So I bet it all feels like quicksand even when you're doing well.

Jennifer Lawrence. Miserable in every single interview she's done in the last 2 years; seems angry at humanity in general and angry about being famous. Barely hides her contempt for many reporters during interviews.

Openly discusses how much she hates her fans and the general public. Does not seem like a happy person--despite having the world at her feet.

(anyone else having trouble posting in the right threads today? If not, sorry mine are all over the place).

R301, it's probably some of everything you mentioned. It must be hell to have people pulling on you constantly. They have the paps screaming at them, and then everyone who gets close enough wants something from them, even if it's only some sort of recognition. It might not seem like a big deal until you go through it thousands of times. It must be draining, soul-sucking. And then there's the media and their inane questions you've answered so many times already.

I've read quite a few DL threads that put down actors who don't want people making eye contact or acknowledging them in some way. I can only imagine what it would be like at work to have people trying to get you to look at them because they want something you don't want to give them. It would be exhausting not to be able to do something routine without people invading your space constantly because they're starved for attention that only you can give them.

I'm sure I would figure, okay, I made some movies. Does that mean I owe people I've never seen before and will never see again?

I can see someone naively wanting to become famous and then discovering it's a pretty horrible existence. Some do well and manage to stay out of that kind of mess (I'm thinking Jeff Bridges and others like him), but it probably helps that he was raised around it. For someone who is newer to it, it probably takes a long time to find a balance.

Alan Alda Paul Simon Judy Woodruff

Chris Pine seems pretty miserable, and unpleasant.

Yeah, he does, [R306]. He also seems to take himself *very* seriously in interviews, like it's always very important for him to come across as "serious" and intellectual.

Zachary Quinto is in a similar category, but I think Zachary is worse though. I remember seeing him once on WWHL (the talk show on Bravo) and he was insufferable and completely humorless.

I always suspected Fontname Verdana was a bold, italic, miserable cunt.

[quote]Liberal women are always miserable cunts under the surface.

This is not true.

I'm so glad I'm not famous. Fame really messes you up.

Now that we know who the miserable assholes are, are there any joyful assholes?

R290 here. Someone upstream wondered how bad it would be if people were always after you for something. It gets bad. I am on occasional email chains about dinners or parties, etc, and people go on and on about how my rich/famous friend should come, how great she is, they need to spend more time together, etc. And I love my friend dearly -- I've known her since school -- but she is not the charmer that would warrant such attention. And she isn't even famous outside the business world, although everyone would know the company that she used to head. Now imagine that this happens every single day. People asking you for coffee. to a party. out for dinner. anything, just to spend time with you, and hope you can do something for them, even if it's just sharing a moment. It happens all the time, and it becomes a chore to say "no" all the time, and wonder if someone likes you because of who you are, or because of who they think you are. As much as some people fantasize about fame, I couldn't imagine a worse existence. It would be nice to have some more money than I have, but not so much that I have to question everyone's motives.

Continuing what R304 is saying: I was always amazed at how well, apparently, the "American Idol" kids adjusted -- the early winners especially and, even more so, Kelly Clarkson. Talk about instant fame and lots of it. From pure obscurity to major fame. And she seemed to handle it all like a pro, never seemed particularly unhappy (until later and that was more at the biz than fans, etc.) Maybe because she skipped years of abuse and rejection that probably contributes to the unhappiness once they get what they dreamed of and it isn't how they thought it would be.

Ok, without trying to reply to specific posters, I'm working class, and have saved and invested money while I've toiled away at jobs that paid an hourly wage. I still managed to accumulate a nest egg, and then, after losing my equally frugal parents, came into some money. Not a huge amount, by DL's standards. And I've certainly never told anyone how much. Amazing, though, how people you barely know come out of the woodwork suddenly asking for loans (that they'll never repay) for various reasons. I'm already out quite a bit of money (on "loan") before I learned my lesson. Multiply my shabby experience by 1000, and that's what a successful celebrity probably encounters.

Oh, and for those of you trashing Katherine Hepburn, read the attached story about her famous brownie recipe (really, the best one).

I like the story Bettie Page told about meeting Katherine Hepburn!

Let's compare Kelly Clarkson's attitude with that of that other America Idol winner, Carrie Underwood. Her bitchy cuntiness has been discussed before on DL.

NG1 here. I've spent some time with both Kelly Clarkson AND Carrie Underwood. Kelly is adorable. She is a sweet, unaffected, down to earth woman. Carrie? Not so much.

Fontname Verdana is a goddess! She is the greatest stripper ever to strut a stage. I will not have her disparaged by some no neck mouth breathers who aren't worthy of touching the hem of her sparkled gowns (or pasties).

Shirley Bassey is a notorious diva. ooops..... DAME Shirley Bassey. I once knew a journalist who interviewed her. This was a long time ago and I don't remember all of the horror stories surrounding the interview. But I do remember he said that he saw her in the lobby of the hotel where the interview was to take place later so he went over to introduce himself. He is Welsh and a native of the same town as Shirley. She ignored him when he introduced himself, and replied when he mentioned that he grew up in the same town she is from "Is that supposed to make me like you?"

Ben Kingsley is also said to be a difficult little diva. ooops.....SIR Ben Kingsley. He apparently insists on the constant use of his honorary title. Wasn't it Judy Dench, erm, DAME Judy Dench who said something like "Oh you mean King Bensley"? when another guest mentioned him?

Speaking of Bens. .... the production of Tropic Thunder has gone down in Hollywood lore as a production from hell, thanks to Ben Stiller's constant ranting, raving, and verbal abuse of his cast and crew. He is said to have been an abusive shit to just about everyone in sight. In the promo tours, the cast either refused to talk about him or they alluded to his behavior in ways such as "Ben has his own style" when asked about working with him. If I remember right, none of them appeared with him to promote the opening of the film.

I'm not really getting the hate for Tim Allen. I worked on "Home Improvement" and he was great to be around.

Patricia Richardson on the other hand wasn't much of a joy. Not a miserable bitch or anything but moody and clearly didn't like her job, or Tim. They were pretty much opposites and in this case opposites didn't attract. They had zero chemistry.

Kim and Kanye...he must be the most unhappy person in the world and she is in second place.

R280

According to IMDb.com, MAME went into production in January 1973.

Yeah, WHY are these rich and famous people such miserable assholes? Here's my theory...

Once they achieve all the wealth, fame, adulation, universal ass-kissing, and the career they always dreamed of, they realize that no amount of wealth, fame or achievement will EVER make the gaping black hole of need and misery inside them go away. And now that they've achieved their dreams, they've lost hope that a "better life" will make them happy and make all the horrors go away.

And that's why a significant number of them turn to crackpot religion, it's their last hope.

Yeah, r282, their cause is always animal rescue. Or to promote veganism. It's never a serious cause. Ever.

OK, here's a small story.

Many, many years ago, I was shopping at Chicago's Marshall Field's (not that crappy Macy's) store in Michigan Avenue's Water Tower Place. (For those who do not know Chicago, this was not the big State Street Marshall Field's.) I was just browsing and walking around looking at the clothes on the racks and suddenly, across the room there was ... EVE ARDEN. I recognized her right away, partly from her old TV show "Our Miss Brooks", but also from many movies. Even then, I loved old movies and always enjoyed her appearances. A movie was always better for her participation.

She was quite tall and accompanied by a tall man I took to be her husband. She was looking through a rack of white blouses.

It was very strange, really, seeing someone I clearly recognized but who was in a place that was completely unexpected. I don't know why she was in town - probably for some play or other.

I was across the room, maybe 20 - 30 feet away (I'm no good at judging distances) when I noticed her and I just stopped. It never occurred to me to approach her and speak to her. It was just one of those times you see someone that you "know" in the manner that all of us "know" actors and actresses from film or TV. So, I just stood there, at a distance and watched her for no more than a minute, like any other shopper, searching through the rack of blouses.

Suddenly, she looked up from the blouses, right across at me and in some faint way, acknowledged me. I can't really explain or describe what she did, but it was just a flash, perhaps just eye contact, perhaps a slight nod, I'm really not sure.

I went on my way and she went back to the blouses.

Reading this thread has reminded me of that incident. Thinking back, I don't know what I wanted from her, if anything. I had no expectations. I would never have spoken to her or interrupted her or called attention to her when she was clearly just doing normal stuff. It was a nice moment for me. She didn't have to look at me, could have ignored me, I didn't expect it, but when it happened, so quick, it was nice.

I supposed performers today get so much attention from so many untrustworthy, not to mention truly dangerous people, they probably find it safer to just put on blinders.

What do people expect from those who are successful in this fabricated 'star system 'Hollywood and celebrity have created! Our empty /shallow values and heroes and heroines are only reacting to what is a total fabrication. I remember when living in SF, Jackie O made a not so publicized trip to the city. The toilet seat in the hotel room where she stayed was stolen after she left. This is ridiculous as is following someone in the public's eye to see what they put on their cheeseburger.

Has anyone else noticed the heightened level of elation when hosts of talk shows come on stage? I know it's all prompted by stage managers, but it is too odd. Years ago on Oprah the audience was so thrilled with Oprah's entrance, that one woman burst into tears. Oprah commented and looked baffled. Joan Rivers screeched that Hollywood stars are America's royalty...I don't know how that can be when some of these microwave stars were working as cashiers in supermarkets just before they were supposedly lifted to this level of fame.

Everyday Europeans did not have the constant false sense of intimacy or friendship fans have with today's celebrities. They were purposefully anti-social and distant...this has changed and now their lives are featured on Entertainment Shows. This sort of false fame is hard to live with and is often not survivable. The viewing audiences of America need to wake up focus on things and that really impact their lives.

yes, i never thought to approach celebs whenever I walk past them, I lived in the village for many years and have seen countless celebs on the streets and some are even neighbors, living just 1 block away. most times, I just smile and nod or I will just walk on without letting on that I know who they are.

damn, once i walked by a resto and i saw keith richards sitting inside by himself, being a huge stones fan, he was the one I was excited about and would have loved to have said hi to him but I was in a rush to go somewhere and didn't.

sadly the village has been ruined by nyu and the college kids so I moved.

[Quote] The viewing audiences of America need to wake up focus on things and that really impact their lives.

I think you'll be waiting a while.

I ran the catering facility at a large not for profit in Manhattan, and the day of the annual lunch of the Board Members was upon us. I remember there were 10 board members, and perhaps 30 company officers attending. Months before hand, the board members would receive a form asking for food preferences etc; once returned, the menu could be ordered. Teresa Heinz, wife of John Kerry was on the board. As an ex-pat I was aware that she too was not American by birth, and that she had been raised in Mozambique, and that she was like me, at heart, an immigrant. The serving got under way, and was flowing smoothly until one of the waitstaff came in quite flustered. A problem with Ms Heinz's meal. I went out, asked what the problem was, and she told me that she was allergic to whatever had been served to her. I apologized and explained that her PA ought to have received a menu request form, and that we would have aced upon it accordingly. She looked at me and said "I can't eat that". I reverted immediately to my nice Irish accent, looking her straight in the eye saying" we're in the middle of a routine, but if you can bear with me for a couple of minutes, I will get you another platter. However, if you can't wait, may I suggest you take the elevator 30 floors down, hang a left and a left,and there's a deli on the corner of Madison which does a wonderful pastrami sandwich." We locked eyes-and as I looked at her I had visions of a young Teresa running about the grasslands with elephants and giraffes and hyenas-then she relaxed, grinned and said " That's fine,I'll wait for you". A few minutes later she was chowing down on something to her liking. Mrs Heinz was an absolute lady, but I was aware from experience that with someone else the situation could have gone any way. My key to dealing with her was getting her to recognise a similar past. The best way of dealing with obnoxiousness or cuntish behaviour is to make that eye contact, and in no uncertain terms let the aggressor know that they have met someone ready to play them at their game. As the poem goes "the glories of our blood and state are shadows, not substantial things..."

There are so many. All the ass kissing that is done to stars breads assholes.

breads = breeds.

[Quote] All the ass kissing that is done to stars breads assholes.

That's a lot of yeast!

Ass-holes have good days

Nice people have bad days

ALL celebs are hurt little children

So are their fans

They have more in common than the stars would like to think

Remember how Jodie Foster said that no way would she be able to handle the celebrity thing today, that she would've quit as a young actor (yeah, yeah, they all say that but Jodie has major reason, of course). I think there is a lot to that. Not long ago, if you lived in L.A., you'd pass someone like Marcia Wallace as she shopped and smile and say "I like your work" or whatever and she'd smile back and say "Thank you" and both of you would move on. These days everyone with their phone cameras and social media pages and then, if you're at all hot, TMZ and the other paps and so many magazines wanting and needing pictures and freelance photogs doing all they can to get them and fast. It must be exhausting.

I wrote elsewhere once about seeing Springsteen eating in some middle table of a Chinese restaurant on Santa Monica Blvd. with his redhead wife, surrounded by people on other tables. Everyone left him alone and he didn't pull any private room stuff, to his major credit. Wonder if he could do that now? There would be flashbulbs going off every two seconds, video dinging, and a call to TMZ in seconds.

But we may be reading too much into it too. Stars have their own places to go and aren't afraid to leave the house. I always tell folks if they want to see a celebrity, just go to the Ralphs (( think?) on Pacific Coast Highway any time of the day and your odds are good. Had two friends in from out of town, we went to the beach and then stopped by there. Walked in and there was Kate Hudson, back in her "Almost Famous" peak, in Daisy Dukes smiling away as she ordered from the deli. (And, yes, we completely left her alone. And it was just pre-cell phone cameras so, again, who knows if she could do that now?)

R334 that's a good point .Things weren't nearly as intrusive in the days before cell phone cameras, social media, and 1000 websites and magazines that needed content.

R326 People are obsessed with US celebrities all over the world, including Europeans. Americans aren't the ones buying British tabloids, which are loaded with ridiculous, nonsense stories describing the mundane details of American reality "stars."

R306, I think it's because he is in the closet. And add that to the pressures of trying to stay A-list and being known for your looks more than your acting abilities, if he is a miserable man I totally understand why.

r337 I agree with you. That's also a factor why Pine has a serious drinking problem. He's visibly intoxicated in so many party pictures you can find online.

I think he might be one of those actors who comes out after his days as a young(ish) and hot leading man are over. See also: Jake G.

I think a lot of celebs have so many people financially dependent on them they cant stop working, and they resent that. When we think of wealth, we think in terms of our own lifestyle, since no one knows your true net worth except you or your partner, but celebs paydays are often published in trade rags. We know how much someone got for their latest blockbuster or TV show. That results in almost anyone who lays eyes on you to know how much they could possibly get out of you. Add to that the fact that most stars dont have very good boundaries, given the nature of their careers, and you've got one miserable asshole supporting an entire village, because they cant say no.

Great point R339.

[Quote] I think a lot of celebs have so many people financially dependent on them they cant stop working, and they resent that.

Perfect example of that would be Britney Spears.

r339 that's very true with stars, and it's been going on forever. Many of them have relatives they have to support financially, sometimes for their entire lives. That must be a tremendous burden. And if you're worth millions, I'm sure renting your relative a studio apartment and buying them a used car isn't going to cut it. Oh no, they want a nice house, a luxury car and a generous allowance etc. The list must go on and on, I can only imagine how exhausting and frustrating it must be. This is a BIG reason why many celebs have financial difficulties, in spite of making big money.

(R325) I had something similar happen. I was at a book party in NY at a gorgeous apartment building off Central Park. After the party I was in the lobby waiting for my friends and Alec Baldwin walked in. He obviously lived I the building. He caught my eye and I smiled and he smiled back and headed for his elevator , stopping to ask the doorman how his night was. I know he has an asshole reputation but he seemed pretty normal to me. I think the smile was just because he could tell I wasn't going to bug him in his own building.

r343 That's because he had an audience. The doorman probably had a WTF? moment when Baldwin acknowledged him. I'm sure he hid it well, especially if he'd been working there for any length of time.

Ben Affleck is actually very nice. I work in retail and he came into my store a few months ago. He bought a shirt and when I was ringing him up, he chatted about the weather, and asked if I had plans for the weekend (not picking me up). Even AFTER I rung him up, he chatted a bit more, told me nice chatting with you..have a great day- smiled and left. VERY VERY VERY NICE.

[quote]Patricia Richardson on the other hand wasn't much of a joy. Not a miserable bitch or anything but moody and clearly didn't like her job, or Tim. They were pretty much opposites and in this case opposites didn't attract. They had zero chemistry.

Patricia Richardson always gave off a bitch vibe in interviews years ago.

I've met a lot of famous people briefly because my brother is s network exec. Most are kind of like that one clique in high school that all the teachers loved but you weren't s part of. Like they'll pass you in the hall and when your eyes meet they just half smile but only speak to their own kind. I can't say I blame them. There are a few exceptions. James Taylor was as nice and genuine as they come. He's just who you think he'd be. Bono and the other members of U2 are also really normal guys. People I would put into the 'say hello but nothing more' category were sting, Dave Matthews, Bonnie Rait. Bruce Springsteen doesn't say much unless you want to talk music but his wife Patti is just the sweetest person.

Chelsea Handler AFTER Trump was elected went absolutely batshit, psycho,nut job crazy. I could totally see why Rosie fell into a deep depression and even Kathy Griffin later on after she almost got kicked out of the country. Chelsea reminds me of Mrs. Stotch in that episode of South Park when she finds out her husband is sleeping around with other men and taking it up the ass at the bath house (see articles on the autopsy for LA anchor Chis Burrous. It’s sort of related just downright disturbing). So Mrs. Stotch goes completely daffy and tries to kill Butters and than after she thinks she kills him her hair gets all stringy and her appearance just dramatically changes throughout the episode. Every time I see Chelsea losing it on Twitter I think of Mrs Stotch. And she’s made enemies with EVEYONE including the gays. It’s like she went from being.....meh, somewhat amusing if that’s your thing to a total mental case. Even her muse Amy Schumer will go there and speaks her mind and sometimes she offends a lot of people but she manages to keep a good sense of humor about it and doesn’t take herself THAT seriously. Chelsea looks like she’s just out for blood and doesn’t care who she steps on to get her point across. Even Michael Richards thinks she needs to chill out.

Lately this is how she’s looking on a GOOD day.

Can you guys imagine what it would be like if every asshole and jerk in the world wanted to be your best friend? How crazy would that make you?

I’ve written this on other threads but I believe Charlie Sheen wished something terrible happen to poor Selma Blair when she had the “nerve” to stand up to him after her stint on his other awful show. Of course Hollywood stood by him and he will continue to get away with just about EVERYTHING scot free. Now she has MS Sheen is continuing being his awful self. Giving him a slap on the wrist would be the very worst he’d get away with but that’s never happened and it never will. He runs the show or at least liberal activist daddy does so maybe that’s why they’ll never touch him....figuratively obviously. He’s #METOO proof. He’ll never suffer any consequences for all his heinous actions. He’ll just say something witty as usual and Hollywood will be all “that’s our Charlie for you! Haha! Haha!” Or they’ll blame the victim. “It’s Charlie Sheen, what did you expect?”