Jack Kerouac (March 12, 1922 - October 21, 1969)

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He was hot throughout his lifetime, but a true dreamboat in his youth.

He looks like Caleb from Big Brother and Survivor.

I heard he dabbled.

Jack was the original good time had by all.

He was bi, no?

He was a drunk and died of alcohol related diseases at 47

Yes, he was bisexual to some extent. I think mainly straight but would let guys play with him. Very hot man. He would be 95 today if he had lived. But alcoholism did him in. "On the Road" is a great book, as is "The Dharma Bums."

Incidentally, Judy Garland also lived from 1922-1969.

Was he big?

In what sense?

Who?

There is no indication, whatsoever, that he was bisexual. In fact, he declared repeatedly that he was a Catholic bound the laws of God. He did have bisexual friends, of course. He was once arrested in the disposing of the body of a homosexual into the Hudson River who was murdered by his best friend, also a staunch heterosexual.

Kerouac reading his short story "October in the Railroad Earth"

Here he is speaking French.

Does anyone recall the film bout five years ago with Gareth Heguland? that kid who plated Brad Pitts "cousin" Patroclus in Troy as Neil Cassidy. Thought he did a decent job it actually dealt with Kerouac's bi sexuality. The kids career tanked.

Was it ever made clear if the guy who was murdered, David Kammerer, was a true stalker of Lucien Carr?

So hot.

Oh yes, R18. Kammerer moved all around the country to follow Lucien Carr during his youth and young manhood.

I thought I read in one of the books that Allen Ginsberg and Jack Kerouac had an affair. Or at least that Ginsberg had a crush on him and Kerouac allowed some intimacy.

R21, you've seen photos of Allen Ginsberg. Do still believe that stupid rumour now?

lol, it's Garrett Hedlund, R17, who starred in On the Road. I liked it a lot. It had a pretty good cast including such DL faves as Viggo Mortensen, Steve Buscemi, Amy Adams, and the inimitable Kristen Stewart.

R1 here.

Please shit in my mouth.

R22 - I saw Allen Ginsberg in person about 20 years ago. Attended a reading he gave at San Diego State University. He autographed my copy of "Howl" afterwards. So yes, I know full well what he looked like.

Then you have answered your own question.

[quote]He was hot throughout his lifetime,

Not really. He became a bloated, alcoholic mess towards the end of his life; but, yes, he was quite the looker in young adulthood.

Sizemeat Verificatia?

R28, you need a new gimmick.

R26, I never asked a question.

Don';t forget! Gore Vidal fucked him, and bragged about it for decades.

I'm sure there were many old, ugly queens like Vidal with his drinking problem who said such things. No one believed them.

" Gore Vidal fucked him, and bragged about it for decades."

Can you blame her?

I had no idea that he was so goodlooking.

I had such a crush on him in college, and read all his books.

Then I grew up.

Mama, I'm a big girl now!

He work was very overrated in retrospect. It go so much attention at the time because it was part of the first breaking away from the suffocating American society of the 1950s.

But now? It's really indulgent baloney.

His first novel, 'The City and the Pillar' was a standard novel of the '50s.

Then, bumming around, taking drugs, and an unrequited love for Neal Cassady and (as the DLers love to mistype) Wa-La! A speed freak's epic was born!

it's properly written:

and walla, all of a sudden,

R39, the City and the Pillar is a Gore Vidal novel, not a Kerouac work.

Apparently he was raised by Quebecois and grew up speaking french. What a weirdo.

"I wish I was free

of that slaving meat wheel

and safe in heaven dead." - Jack Kerouac

Sooner than we think, so shall we be joining you Ti Jean.

So, he was ungrammatical as well as pretentious?

"Blowjobs, yes. Assholes, no."

I knew the Kerouac bashers wouldn't take long to arrive here. Do you realize how pretentious and insecure you make yourselves look?

"The Town and the City" was Kerouac's first published novel.

R46, do you realize you do not understand the definition of "pretentious" and "insecure"?

I absolutely do and you exemplify them.

^^^ Another lost "New School" graduate.

I saw the movie KILL YOUR DARLINGS last year. They all came across as self indulgent assholes. Who got away with murder. Most of Ben Foster's scenes as William S. Burroughs seemed to have been cut.

His best book was Big Sur, which is basically stream of consciousness delirium tremens.

[quote]I had no idea that he was so goodlooking.

Me neither. Damn.

In high school, I discovered 10,000 Maniacs and thought Natalie Merchant was IT, so I learned more about JK after hearing their song, "Hey Jack Kerouac." I was really into him for a few years.

Now I kind of find my interest in them (and in Natalie Merchant, if I'm being honest) to be kind of embarrassing.

Is KILL YOUR DARLINGS any good?

Years ago I saw Beat with Country Love and Norman Reedus, but I don't remember much about it.

who in the fuck is that?!

Damn you r54. I was going to post that song. Whenever I see his name, I think

Hey Jack Ker O Ack

Why embased tho?

Nobody should be embarrassd to like Kerouac or any of the Beats. There is some vivid poetry to be found in their work. "Ring of Bone" is a great poem. And the Beats were influential on artists, writers and musicians that came after them.

R58, you really aren't stupid enough to believe that Jack Kerouac coined the phrase, " After me, the deluge", do you?

DO YOU???

Here is R59. Someone please bring her a cup of tea; she's having a spell.

It is not my fault that R58 is a dolt.

Let them eat cake

My husband's high school English teacher in Denver (from a wealthy family) used to to drive Cassady and Kerouac around and "help them out." So, I suspect they were at least gay for pay.

I wouldn't put it past Cassidy to do "gay for pay" if he needed the money. He was a horndog and didn't give a damn. Kerouac had too many hangups and probably wouldn't.

Neil Cassidy was best played by Thomas Jane. Gorgeous guy. Adrian Brody played Ginsberg.

R42, let me educate you.

French Canadians left the barren farms of Quebec Province starting in the 1870s to work in the New England textile mills and other factories. They were close enough to their families in Quebec to move back and forth frequently. They clung to their language and customs as long as they could.

My FC family also lived in Lowell, Mass., and my parents were born the year after Kerouac. They heard French spoken at home, too. It was still heard when I was a kid. It was that way all over New England and the Upper Great Lakes.

I had forgotten that he spoke French...although I remembered something about his Mom's attachment to Canada.

I am surprised to learn, from the piece linked above) that he was politically conservative. I wonder if he voted for Nixon?

French Canadians traditionally had big families to work the “ribbon farms” - narrow with river frontage - along the St. Lawrence. So when families moved to the U.S, some members stayed behind. Lots of moving back and forth and visiting.

And, oddly, R68, they were often Republicans.

He lived the last years of his life with his mother in St. Petersburg, Fla.

I can't imagine.

He was hot, but I always get the impression he was riddled with STDs.

He always told me his greatest fear was to have his picture posted on a gay website.

R43, thanks for posting one of my favorite Kerouac lines.

Anyone who doesn't care for him is of course entitled to their opinion. Yet, some comments above read as if they were posted by someone who watched 'Sean Hannity Exp;ains The Beats."

LOL r31 link

[quote](Gore Vidal, bottom, and Jack Kerouac, top, though Vidal claims it was the other way around )

Jack with Lucien Carr circa 1944

R4 dabbled? For the 1940s and 1950s Kerouac and Neal Cassidy were basically out as bisexual, and it was very well known.

R72 he had genital warts according to a biography I read, but Ginsberg who was a pedo had more.

R63, so he dealt them drugs or helped them find drug dealers? Remember this was when smoking pot and taking benzedrine or speed, and other drugs were basically unknown to most people.

R45 Kerouac was top for anal sex.