Kristen Stewart -- great actress?

I don't know but I find her far less annoying than virtually all of the young actresses working today even though she was in those god awful Twilight films.

No. She probably was never as bad as people thought during the "Twilight" years, but the current critical reappraisal is insane. She can be competent in some instances and has some strengths, but it's within a very limited range.

And before people cite "Clouds of Sils Maria," Juliette Binoche was the clear MVP of the cast, and even if Stewart was pretty good, so was Chloe Moretz and she didn't win a Cesar.

No.

And she has some very annoying acting tics.

People have an irrational hate against her because of Twilight.

She's an average actress but certainly the prettiest of her generation.

Gads, no, OP, horrendous.

Not as bad as people say. With the exception of Twilight crap, she's done interesting work. But it's going to take a long time to live that down.

OP NO. And that has nothing to do with Twilight.

See for yourself, OP.

The writer as a lesbionic crush on her.

Deal with these...

That top looks like Chanel, fabulous.

Her greatest acting was her romance with Robert Pattison.

She is very pretty as she gets older. Is she the one who the director ate out?

She's a fucking terrible actress.

Pretty girl with a frozen face. Poor thing can't portray ANY emotion on screen and comes across as Aspie, far up on the spectrum.

R15 thank you Dr Freud.

I find her interesting. Her manner is the direct opposite of Streep.

[quote]And she has some very annoying acting tics.

Yes. Starting with that 'I smelled a fart' face that comprises at least 40% of her facial expressions.

I remember that Owen Gleiberman, before he got blown out of Entertainment Weekly, was fond of blathering about what a great actress she is and how she's the most beautiful of her generation, as well. I don't hold Twilight against her but I simply do not see ANY of that. Her affect is so flat, so emotionless, even when she's TRYING to emote. She's reasonably pretty but not a stunning beauty. She's nothing special. I don't get it at all.

She's gorgeous. And she has the prettiest shaped head I've ever seen. Just gorgeous. Her actually? She can be mesmerizing. In Sils Maria - after she leaves the mo vie, it just dies. You WANT her back.

R11 it is Chanel. And it's gorgeous. Have you seen the new Gabrielle Chanel purse she is launching with Pherell and a few others? I'm dying for one.

I like her because she's an EXTREMELY HIGH GLAMOUR very low affect presence. She's a lot more like a chic young French star with little technique. Unless she has some natural talent for growth, she needs to get some coaching if she wants to pull off "womanly" roles. She's 27.

I think she's a fantastic film actor and have thought so for years. It doesn't hurt that she's a real beauty.

What a fucking joke. Every character she plays has the same voice, manner, tics and speech patterns. She plays every character as a sullen, itchy teenager.

So I guess we can move this one to the solved column.

"This newly shorn A- list mostly movie actress is cheating on her girlfriend with not one reporter, but two. That weekly trade is going to have the most kiss butt story ever about her because of it."

She was good in Speak and The Runaways. Her acting tics ruin all the other films she's done.

In THE CLOUDS OF SILS MARIA she is outacted by Chloe Grace Moretz. K-Stew's unvarying vocal fry annoys the fuck out of me.

I love all her sighs and quirky expressions. She is obviously very awkward but that makes her lovable to me.

Red Power, whatever that means.

I can not stand her. I really don't care if she can act. I knew she was doing the publicity thing with Rob but I did not care but when she put on all that bullshit about having an affair with her director to prove she was straight when she is like the biggest lesbian I have ever seen...I said, Fck you, bitch.

I liked her in the movie about the asshole who poisoned himself in a broken down bus. I thought she was magnetic in that and also pretty. Haven't felt that way about anything else she's ever done that I've seen.

Whats the name of the bus movie?

Into the Wild, R30.

I didn't think she'd have a career after Twilight but she seems to be hanging on, making interesting films. Anna Kendrick has gotten lost in rom com crap and probably won't find her way out.

The rest of the Twilight cast are pretty much has beens.

She obviously brings a naturalism instead of whatever else people are looking for from her. She's interesting and can have a strong career. A great performance may be in her. The great actresses have a suppleness. Incredible control and no control at the same time.

R32 Kendrick isn't doing nothing but rom coms. She does a lot of musicals. She's done dramas, cartoon voices, comedies and a couple mumble cores.

I love watching Stewart on screen. She's one of the few very naturally beautiful actresses of our time. I like her awkwardness and insecurity in real life, because she's refreshingly different from most of the current fame whores.

Watch Clouds of Silas Maria and The Runaways. Better than anything from Ellen Page or Amber Heard.

R36 Heard isn't exactly a highly regarded actress.

Gorgeous? Ugh, she is bland. Her "acting" is laughably bad. Her personality is vile. If it wasn't for that ridiculous "Twilight" series, no one would know her name.

I think she's pretty good in a few things, but it will be a long time before she lives down the entire Twilight nonsense, movie and fauxmance together. I think she'll probably keep getting work; she's extremely striking to look at, and the camera loves her now that she's comfortable in her own skin. Actresses have worked for far less.

Speaking of, does anyone have the HKN thread saved? I lost it when I replaced my laptop and I never seem to be on whenever it's been bumped of late, so I've totally lost track. And with the latest naming conventions, intended to keep the Haven trolls away, I can't seem to google it u either. So, a link would be appreciated, please.

I think she's stunning in the photos I've seen of her but I've never watching her act except to pretend that Rpattz was both attractive and interesting.

I hope she does well in life.

The general public just does not care about her despite the HUGE pr push and critics fawning over her movies for the last few years. She has also been trying very hard to get in blockbusters or at least more mainstream projects, but the TPTB aren't going for her. Part of the issue is likely because she has no chemistry with any potential leading man. She is serviceable, but the bar has been set so low for her.

It's mystifying how Olivier Assayas takes her seriously as artist and muse and creates films around her. After all, he's dedicated movies to Maggie Cheung and Juliette Binoche, who are real goddesses.

Speaking of, Assayas' Irma Vep is wonderful and everyone should see it.

She's gorgeous and compelling, and I've seen her give terrific and average performances. There was one when she was a kid that was really fantastic - blanking on the name of the film but a pervert thought she was a boy.

Good heavens the twi fraus have come back to DL. To them Stewart is always the MOST beautiful, the MOST talented, the SMARTEST actress EVER in H'wood and anyone who disagrees is a vile hater. Watching her for 5 minutes causes me to unconsciously start aping her twitches and tics and mouth breathing.

Was the French entertainment community SHOCKED and OUTRAGED when she won the César for Best Supporting Actress?

Stewart has shaved her head. Since Twilight ended, she has become full-on lez and gone crazy sampling all the sapphic love out there.

As a leading actress, I don't think she has the chops to carry a movie but she's good in small doses, like her small role in On The Road.

I don't think she's going to get the big movie roles except in Europe. She's pretty much disliked by the American public.

Yes, she's very good . she's no Emily Watson or Samantha Morton but she's very good IMO.

she shaved her head for her next film role

[quote] she shaved her head for her next film role

She said she always wanted to shave her head and it wasn't for a role; the movie didn't require it; I'm sure they wanted her hair to be short but not that short.

She continues to be listed as "straight" on NNDB:

In a new interview with Today, Stewart explained her new buzzcut — which she showed off for the very first time at the premiere of new film Personal Shopper

— is part of a strategy to save time. Stewart plays an underwater mechanical engineer in the film, and said the prospect of putting a helmet on and taking it off

— all while worrying about the state of her long hair — wasn’t something she was interested in dealing with.

“It’s practical,” she said, adding that the style was by no means mandated by production. “I mean, I’m not going to be able to have touch-ups once they put the helmet on my head.”

“I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time, just for novel sake. It feels amazing,” she added. “I just want to head bang all day.”

Stewart previously told Into the Gloss in a 2014 interview that she was adamant about eventually shaving her head and adding to the bold look with a little ink.

“I’m definitely going to shave my head before I die,” she said. “I will definitely tattoo my head while it’s shaved before my hair grows back. I’m not sure which part, probably the bottom quadrant in the back. I don’t know what the tattoo would be, yet. Still thinking.”

First, I think she is very beautiful.

Acting, I've only seen her in that one Twilight movie and i thought the material was really awful.

But I think her personality is bad for a public person. The interviews I've read with her; she hates doing them...hates being in public....hates smiling for the Press.....she just comes across totally miserable.

And she's always sneering and frowning. I mean....Jeeezus...you hate it so much, then quit.

So I just think of her as a beautiful but thoroughly unlikeable young actress.

She has traded up, that's for sure.

I would say she is "fair" at this stage of her career. I do not find her compelling at all. Her name attached to a production is more likely to repel than compel me to see it.

Kristen Stewart = Kit Harrington.... only butcher.

In addition to coming of as miserable she often comes off as pretentious. She says a lot of pseudo profound things in interviews but she's not that smart. She won't impress well educated people and she not relatable to the masses. She also says things that many regular people might find dismissive or offensive.

I agree she has negative chemistry with every male actor they've tried her with, but I bet if she did a romantic flick with Ellen Page or Kate MacKinnon she'd be just fine. She certainly was on SNL in the totinos ad, surely she could maintain it for another 90 minutes or so.

But until something like that happens for real, she's still a mostly stilted actress that's going to keep on being just that so long as they keep trying to make her pretend she still wants to sex on boys.

Oh come on, gals! She's entirely the product of a huge amount of PR. She's very plain looking. She is an "understated" actor (understated like a piece of wood). The only reason she has had any success at all is because of her Hollywood clout/contacts via her mother.

There's just too much of this nepotism crap going on. I wish the big hooked stick in the sky would come down and yank her out of whatever scene she is in so a decently talented actress could take her place.

And I never cared about Twilight one way or another. It was good, fun, stupid teen entertainment.

And her sexuality could not be more uninteresting to me one way or the other.

K-Stew and Jodie Foster should do a lesbian re-make of "THE PANIC ROOM." As a baby butch and soft butch married couple, in a Prospect Park brownstone mansion. Invaded by Muslims or Deplorables.

It is amazing that she has a pretty active career following Twilight. She has does well in some very interesting stuff, but not all movies are going to be for her. Certainly no more blockbusters, and that's okay.

It's amazing because pretty much all her films since then have been box office bombs, even for indie movies. She has a very limited range and even more limited appeal. Once she's too old to play the sullen teenager/young adult, she really has nowhere to go.

Her PR machine is impressive.

Why can't these 3 threads combine into one. It is aggravating to go to each thread and try keeping up with what is being said. It would make for better conversation. And btw, those God awful Twilight movies grossed 3.5 BILLION DOLLARS. Is it possible to put all three threads together, just asking

Apparently, she's in talks to be one of the stars is the Charlie's Angels reboot.

I like her more than that truly awful Rooney Mara who is somehow even more bland and blank than Kristen. I've seen Kristen give half way decent performances. Rooney is only watchable in Carol and, even then, a million other actresses could have done it better.

She always plays quiet unemotional characters, so it is hard to tell if she can act...

I saw her in a movie that I watched part of. She seemed OK.

R8--hilarious. Thanks!

I only ever liked her in this:

Hey Im Kstew, and a few in this thread think Im gorgeous and a talented actor. Thanks Bros!

And which young actresses do you caftan twirling cunts find compelling? None right? Exactly! They arent old dead hags with wire hangers, and somewhere over the rainbowisms etc! You dont find any young actresses compelling, because you dont want to fuck them. You dont find women compelling. PERIOD! Unless.... oh lemme stop. Auntie Mame lovin fruit fuckers!

Don't be fooled: just saw PERSONAL SHOPPER and KS is as bad in this as she is in everything.

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She gorge, rich, successful, fashionable, young and can fuck anyone she wants. She isn't annoying. Doesn't seem to be a drug addict or alchie. She works all the time. Ok actress. I don't much like her choices, not my kind of movies.

Now she's identifying as bi and saying she's open to dating men again, shocker!

I dont remember she said was "lesbian". Maybe you heard "thesbian".

[quote] Doesn't seem to be a drug addict or alchie

.......

R78, On SNL she claimed to be 'so gay'.

She is not awful, but has very little range or charisma.

The fact that she never dates men makes me believe in the theory that she planned that cheating scandal to get out of that crappy Huntsman franchise.

She hit or miss as an actress but overlooked is that she has been a truly great fashion model.

Boring as fuck on screen. And I've tried—for years. I saw Panic Room in theaters when it came out; I was in junior high. I've seen her in numerous things over the years, and she rarely sheds her awful acting tics and mannerisms. It's incredibly distracting. The only things I've seen her in where I thought she was passable was Lizzie and Clouds of Sils Maria, although I still cannot fathom how she won a Cesar for the latter.

Here she is being awful on various talk shows.

She is very tiny.

Robert Pattinson has had the best career post Twilight and is now poised for mainstream success with the Batman film. Kristen seems incredibly average in looks and talent. It's a mystery why she keeps getting cast in these prestige projects. The Charlie's Angels remake looks DOA.

It's not a mystery, R86. Her parents are both industry insiders. She was primed for it when she came out of the womb, and it's the only reason she has a career.

No! She lacks charisma. She has to be one of the most downbeat A-list actors I've ever seen. Sure, there are others, but this chick looks downbeat ALL THE TIME.

R84, as I watched Panic Room, I realized she was a lesbian. And she was gushing on and on about how Foster was her idol in interviews. Probably had a crush on her too.

R85, Stewart clearly conceives of herself as the badass, female member of Nirvana (that never existed). Look how she scowls! Ooooo, how she rejects society and calls herself boring. Does she love life? NO, she hates EVERYTHING. What a great star!!! Watch her cut her wrists live on youtube!

Mouth breathing no talent

[Quote] The fact that she never dates men makes me believe in the theory that she planned that cheating scandal to get out of that crappy Huntsman franchise.

Uh she has dated men before. And she lost out on roles after the cheating scandal.

[Quote] Robert Pattinson has had the best career post Twilight and is now poised for mainstream success with the Batman films.

Anna Kendrick has done pretty well for herself since Twilight.

I loathe Kristen as an actress (and kind of as a person), but at least she's done some interesting projects. Anna Kendrick is a boring actress who has done pedestrian musical fare.

[Quote] Anna Kendrick is a boring actress who has done pedestrian musical fare.

I didn't mind A Simple Favour. Although Blake Lively's wardrobe was the star of that movie.

Jane Levy is a great actress. Kristen Stewart not so much. Both the same age.

I am a big fan of Jane, R95. I loved her in the Evil Dead remake and Don't Breathe—a very good actress who elevated those films. The unfortunate part is that she hasn't had nearly the career, though I suppose she started much later than Kristen, who was shunted into Hollywood by her industry-insider parents. Kristen is honestly embarrassing on screen.

I can't fucking stand her. Insufferable as an actress. And I find it hard to forgive Chloë Sevigny for championing her and putting her in that Lizzie Borden movie. This brief clip from "Still Alice" is representative of Kristen's performance in literally every film she's ever been in.

I actually think she's ok as a quirky character actress and I like her in off-kilter things like Personal Shopper, but it seems she keeps trying to be a leading lady and I just don't think she has the charisma or likeability to pull it off. She's got a very dead-eyed look to her and a flat voice.

I think she'd be good in villain parts but I don't think I've seen her in any.

Her acting in R97's clip is so pedestrian. Julianne Moore gave such a good, nuanced performance - but Stewart just sucked the air out of that scene, so it fizzled.

[quote] She's an average actress but certainly the prettiest of her generation.

[quote] She hit or miss as an actress but overlooked is that she has been a truly great fashion model.

How is she "the prettiest" of her generation? How is she a "truly great fashion model"? She has pedestrian looks - literally thousands on college campuses look exactly like her. She has more or less symmetrical features and somebody is doing an A+ Herculean job styling her for shoots - but she's not a stand-out model on her own.

Her stylist deserves an award - because they managed to masquerade her average mousey features enough for her to pass as a "Chanel" model for a few days.

R99, she was in some Chanel perfume commercial and I was shocked they even considered her for it. She doesn't scream glamor or style. It was almost as dumb as Cover Girl putting Ellen in their commercials.

I don't necessarily have anything against her as a person, but I find it appealing that people in the business continue to enable her to appear in movies. I have disliked her as an actress for a long time, but recently checked in and gave Personal Shopper a go—not a great movie by any means, but she certainly was not helping, and it didn't change my opinion of her as an actress.

*appalling, not appealing, dear lord

[Quote] she was in some Chanel perfume commercial and I was shocked they even considered her for it.

I can understand your shock. She was awkward in it.

I thought she was great in the L Word.

Anna Kendrick makes a cameo as a Can Opener in the new film The Kitchen.

R105 should've gone with Reese Witherspoon 🤣

R103, that clip proves she's butch, not feminine at all.

She has dead eyes, and she tries to make up for it by incessantly running her fingers through her hair, and rapidly shaking her head from side to side like a stroke victim in an attempt to feign human emotion. It never works, and she really has no business being an actress, but alas.

You are all old farts. "She's got dead eyes." Is this best boilerplate you can come up with. I think she's an uneven actress. She's got her own affected style. So what. She's pretty and movie directors and producers, and fashion directors, keep working with her, year after year. What the fuck do you know about the business? They obviously know something. SHOW BUSINESS. If she were box office poison, she would have disappeared.

I am actually the same age as her, R109, and I think she is a terrible actress, or as you put it, an "uneven performer"—however, unlike many "uneven performers," she doesn't have movie-star beauty or charisma to make up for her severe limitations as an actress. What does she bring to the table except for stilted, terribly affected acting? Also, for the record, most of her films post-Twilight have in fact been box-office failures.

So why do money men permit directors to cast her?

A) Because she can count the success of Twilight (whose success has nothing to do with her acting skills), and B) She has been in the industry since she was very young because both of her parents are producers. She's well-connected. Connections get you jobs more often than talent, sweetie.

Why have lux designers dropped mountains of clothes on her for years?

She's grubby AND chic and pretty. Not a Hollywood standard, though.

That's entirely bullshit. Connectons get you going. After that, nobody backs box office poison, year after year. But here is Kristen, working and working and working. She's playing Jean Fucking Seberg.

Still Alice is the only movie she's made in the last 5 years that was a significant box office success comparative to its budget, and her role in that was minimal at best. Most of the others barely broke even, and most of them failed miserably. Even The Runaways was a box office bomb. Twilight had the fans of the novels drawn in hook, line, and sinker, but they weren't filling seats for Kristen fuckign Stewart.

So if the suits are NOT fucking her, why are they hiring her?

[Quote] Even The Runaways was a box office bomb.

The only time her acting tics didn't ruin a movie.

Ryan Gosling is in the same vein, were you can see him acting in everything he days, yet still comes across as po-faced.

Plus he does that intense stare / darting eyes back and forth close up thing. It's something I've never seen anyone do in real life.

Any time you go to a treatment centre, group therapy or anorexia rehab, you can find any number of girls who can mumble while looking sallow. It requires zero talent.

I do find the reappraisal of her as some underheralded great indie actress to be bizarre. She's certainly making good choices in terms of directors and roles (working with Assayas and Reichardt etc.), but her acting is still largely the same in everything, even if the character descriptions are entirely different. It's also a very mannered acting style that distracts you from actually seeing the character, because all you can see is her - doing the most.

Reminds me of Nicole Kidman (who at the time was box office poison as well) picking up all those awesome indie films like Dogville, Margot at the Wedding, Fur, Birthday Girl etc. and running them into the ground with her wooden, forced acting. But getting acclaimed nonetheless for being BRAVE and making BOLD CHOICES. It's like... kudos for being shit in something that should have been intriguing? Instead of just shit in shit?

Pattinson has also been choosing well lately, but at least he's actually shown genuine chops in a lot of these indie films. He's not the next Mark Rylance but he can actually disappear into a character here and there and has a level of screen magnetism. I'm still waiting to be wowed by K-Stew.

R120 Agree about Nicole, though that cold style of hers worked well in the deliberately wooden deliveries of actors in The Killing of a Sacred Dear.

R32, really?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, wait, you are serious.

It’s ironic: they picked her for “Twilight” because they needed a mousey-looking actress, a basic “everygirl”, so that even the most homely females in the audience could feel like they could ‘be her’ in the film. They needed a shy, awkward ‘non-beauty’ who wouldn’t be intimidating to the sea of young, often insecure females watching “Twilight” as an escapist fantasy.

Same with Dakota Johnson - another mousey-looking actress for a female escapist fantasy in “50 Shades”: a homely, awkward “everygirl” getting a hot, rich guy.

But because of the popularity of Twilight, Stewart was boosted to ‘model’ status for Chanel. Which is deeply ironic as she was picked for Twilight precisely because she looked like an average schoolgirl.

No is my answer. Have the young seen great actresses? Don’t say Meryl, she’s been phoning it in since She-Devil. Weinstein dropped the bar so low with his ‘it’ girls, actual good actresses are dismissed. If looking and reciting your lines, then reacting somewhat, constitutes a great actress...then whatever!

R124, what HW thinks is non-beautiful and 'mousey', qualifies as ravishing in real life.

Dakota is another underrated 'non-beauty' who is magnetic and interesting because you can perceive a life underneath it all.

R126 Yet she has no acting talent. This is what I mean. I don’t know what drug 126 is taking, maybe he’s Don Johnson? But magnetic? You’re not gay, I wouldn’t even say lesbian. Maybe lesbian, but most definitely one of her parents, or a troll. Either way...fuck off

R127, easy tiger...

[quote] what HW thinks is non-beautiful and 'mousey', qualifies as ravishing in real life.

R126, no, HW cast her because the real-life audience expected a mousey actress for the role in Twilight. The largely female Frau audience didn't want to watch a "ravishing" beauty in Twilight - they wanted someone mediocre-looking and therefore relatable. They didn't want to watch a Victoria Secret model get picked up by a sparkly handsome vampire. They wanted to watch a mousey [italic]plain Jane[/italic] surprisingly get 2 hot guys fall madly in love with her and even fight over her, like fools - that is the ultimate wet dream in Frau-land.

The audience would not be happy if HW cast someone who looked like a young Brooke Shields in that role. They needed a relatable plain Jane - Stewart fit the bill. So that female viewers could equate themselves with Stewart in Twilight and think: "Well, she looks like an average Jane like me - but all the guys in the film are madly in love with her. So it can happen to me too!".

[Quote] Same with Dakota Johnson - another mousey-looking actress for a female escapist fantasy in “50 Shades”: a homely, awkward “everygirl” getting a hot, rich guy.

50 Shades Of Grey was originally a Twilight fanfic.

[Quote] The audience would not be happy if HW cast someone who looked like a young Brooke Shields in that role. They needed a relatable plain Jane - Stewart fit the bill. So that female viewers could equate themselves with Stewart in Twilight and think: "Well, she looks like an average Jane like me - but all the guys in the film are madly in love with her. So it can happen to me too!".

Originally Stephenie Meyer wanted Emily Browning to play Bella.

Emily Browning is 3000x the actress that K Stew is, but she was probably considered too pretty to play Bella.

R129, you keep on saying that K-stew is plain. I think you are wrong. Maybe it's the money she has or the fact that she is capable of cleaning herself up nicely for red carpet events. She looks stunning most of the time in official events.

R129, your theory doesn't hold. You call this plain?

Even without hair, she distills glamour.

I liked her in Personal Shopper, I liked the movie as well. I can see why she gets all the designer attention, she has a good body for the clothing and she likely appeals to a wide base of shoppers in that market. Her acting is pretty standard, I would say she was at her best in Panic Room.

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R124 Agree. Just like Brie whatshername for Captain Marvel or whatever.

R136 no make up? It's not Jayne County level application, but it's still there.

[Quote] but she was probably considered too pretty to play Bella.

I think she turned it down?? Which was probably smart on her part. She did end up making a cameo at the end of The Host. Which was a better (but still infuriating) SM novel.

R139, better than a franchise that can set you up for life? Surely, you kid...

R137, Brie Larson. There I agree with you, she is common...

More Dakota

[Quote] better than a franchise that can set you up for life? Surely, you kid...

Maybe she didn't care about that??

Dakota is infinitely more watchable to me than Kristen. She's yet to blow me away, but she doesn't have the distracting acting tics that Kristen does, so I find her appealing in movies. Kristen spoils everything she's in.

R143, or maybe she lacked vision to foresee the enormous popularity it was to garner.

I think Dakota's fabulous; she's one of those people who, like her parents, seems down-to-earth despite the wealth she grew up in. She is not pretentious, which we definitely cannot say about Kristen.

R134 K Stew has no lips and a chin for days. So no, she's not gorgeous.

Liked her in Clouds of Sils Maria, though, she was a great foil for the needy, aging-actress part played by Binoche.

[quote] your theory doesn't hold. You call this plain?

It’s not a “theory”, R133 / R134. And yes, Stewart is a plain Jane - thousands of average-looking girls like her all across US campuses. If she was at a college rally - without the fame of “Twilight”, you wouldn’t even notice her in a mass photo. You would walk right by her and not even give her a second glance.

[quote] Even without hair, she distills glamour.

You mean "only with a mask of face paint" does she manage to exude glamour.

No need to link photos of her where some award-winning top makeup artist was slaving away putting layers of PAINT all over her face for 3 hours. In all bare-faced pics she looks completely unremarkable, like any average girl in a mall - zero natural outstanding features. Ears stick out, bags under eyes, thin lips - it’s the textbook definition of plain:

I see girls like this even in my area's council estate:

Dakota Johnson is beyond boring

She's boring and ordinary. Her face is cute but nothing exceptional. But she's somehow managed to get decent roles she was truly blah in. Watch her interview with Binoche regarding Sils Maria. Laughable that she thinks she's so deep and an "artiste" sitting next to the extraordinary Binoche. Gurl, please.

I don't get why she's so popular in France, either. La France seems very much amoureuse with the Hwood of late. Sad.

She's better in blockbusters than indie movies.

If Jean Seberg knew Kristen Stewart would one day play her in a movie, she never would have killed herself.

Gay men might not like her but her face does sell magazines to women. She's been on the cover of Elle magazine alone about 20 times.

I'm not a gay man and I don't like her because she's not a good actress. Pretty face, that's all.

[quote] Gay men might not like her but her face does sell magazines to women

That’s not her “face” - that’s a 3-hour ‘paint-job’ trying to hide her real face. “Twilight” made her a household name across the whole planet, made her famous in every country (along with Pattinson) - that is what sells magazines, not her “face”. That is why both of them are now advertising ‘haute couture’, even though they have pedestrian faces.

Stephenie Meyer was hoping for the same success with the film, The Host. The Host never achieved the same success as the Twilight movies.

The Host is a better book, but that's not really saying much. I found the movie pretty boring and none of the actors really stood out either.

R154, this thread has no gay men that's why they (teenage and 20 year old girls) are bitching about Kirsten and Dakota. The same thing happens on the Timothee Chalamet thread. It's very much a 'why her and not me issue?'

She's finally starting to loosen-up as an actress. She used to do that surly act in every role, that trembly-frowny thing she did with her lips. It's like bitch if you don't want to be here there's a waiting list of girls who can replace you.

Her trembly-frowny thing that she did with her lips is what endears her to her female teenage fans. It's part of her teenage angsty act that teenage girls could relate to. Saoirse Ronan flopped in "The Host" because she's not relatable to teenage girls.

Kristen is like Helena Bonham Carter and Emma Watson who are not particularly good actresses but have strong screen presence that seems authentic to the role that they are playing. Helena Bonham Carter looks like she belongs in another era making her perfect for Merchant and Ivory movies and other period pieces. Emma Watson had the right adorable look in Harry Potter movies.

Kristen has the right look for blockbusters like The Underwater because her big eyes and strong jawline is reminscent of other successful action heroines like Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton. It's not about having the perfect face or perfect Hollywood smile.

Alfred Hitchcock became known for having remarked that "actors are cattle." Hitchcock regarded actors as "animated props". For Hitchcock, the actors were part of the film's setting. He didn't care for method acting.

[quote] Alfred Hitchcock became known for having remarked that "actors are cattle."

Charming...

[quote] Kristen has the right look for blockbusters like The Underwater because her big eyes and strong jawline is reminscent of other successful action heroines like Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton.

Reminiscent? Weaver & Hamilton were more traditionally attractive and had far more formidable screen presence as strong female leads. They also looked like robust, confident adult females - whereas Stewart still looks like a girl and a wannabe punk.

[quote] It's not about having the perfect face or perfect Hollywood smile. Alfred Hitchcock became known for having remarked that "actors are cattle."

What is the Hitchcock example supposed to illustrate? He cast mostly very attractive actors in lead roles.

[Quote] Reminiscent? Weaver & Hamilton were more traditionally attractive and had far more formidable screen presence as strong female leads. They also looked like robust, confident adult females - whereas Stewart still looks like a girl and a wannabe punk.

R163 Alfred Hitchcock didn't care about hiring great actors as long as they looked right for the part. He saw actors as props and part of the film's setting.

Linda Hamilton is hardly pretty even when she was young. I said "reminiscent" of Weaver and Hamilton and not the exact copy of them otherwise it would be boring. Kristen still has a lot of clout because she made a lot of money for blockbusters like the Twilight franchise.

[quote] Alfred Hitchcock didn't care about hiring great actors as long as they looked right for the part. He saw actors as props and part of the film's setting.

But what does that have to do with Stewart? She doesn’t look right for most mainstream adult parts. She’ll be 30 soon, but she doesn’t even look like an adult female, she still looks like a punk teen with ears that stick out. And Hitchcock likely wouldn’t give her the time of day.

[quote] Linda Hamilton is hardly pretty even when she was young.

Oh, come on. Hamilton “hardly pretty”? She was far prettier than Stewart - that’s why she was the first cinematic crush for many people across the world.

[quote] I said "reminiscent" of Weaver and Hamilton and not the exact copy of them otherwise it would be boring.

Who said they need to be an “exact copy” of each other. Weaver and Hamilton are not “the exact copy” of each other either. But Weaver & Hamilton are fondly remembered even many decades later (both for their attractive image & for their work in legendary films), whereas Stewart’s most remembered role is a running joke and she hasn’t produced a legendary ‘for posterity’ performance since. At this rate, in 30 years or so she’ll be forgotten.

R133/134, are you high? She looks like an average white chick. You see them walking the streets in ANY city you go to. Nothing impressive about her at all.

R163, when Hitchcock said actors are cattle, I always thought he was referring to how they are disposable and can be easily replaced. Pauline Kael felt he had a huge dislike of actors and that quote shows me why.

R166 Linda Hamilton looks like an ogre without the right hair and make-up.

She was kinda replaced by Brie Larson.

R169, that’s a scene from the original Terminator. And, no, she did not look like an “ogre” in the film because she became almost every straight guy’s fantasy.

Stewart looks far worse “without the right hair and makeup”. She’s not even 30 yet and is a multi-millionaire - yet she doesn’t take care of herself and perpetually looks ill or methed-out in candids: dark bags under her eyes, palid lifeless skin.

June 2019:

For once, I agree with LSA

R171 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you think that Shrek is good-looking, good for you.

Lol, R174, why are you attaching a photo of a 62-year-old Hamilton.

When Stewart is 62, I'm scared to think of the "Shrek" visage Stewart will show. She already developed chronic baggy eyes and dark circles in her mid-20s - and she hasn't even hit middle age yet. Even some of her stylists seem to struggle with it now, as face-paint doesn't always work in hiding it.

R175 Linda Hamilton looks bad for a 62 year old. Most whites age badly unlike Asians.

Here's a picture of 36 year-old Gemma Chan with her parents who are probably around the same age as Hamilton. They look so much better than Hamilton.

R176 lol now you're just trolling.

R176, Asians tend to genetically have more oily skin than e.g. Scandinavians and Celts (who tend to have more dry skin). The upside of having oily skin is that it delays aging & wrinkles (facial oils are a natural moisturiser). The downside is that oily skin (i.e. over-active sebaceous glands) often causes more acne problems and permanent acne scarring (like pock marks, which disfigure the face).

It's a problem of epidemic proportions in Asia - a higher % of people than in Europe really struggle with hyper-active genetic sebaceous glands (which result in severe acne & facial scarring).

So it's really a toss-up between 2 types of natural facial damage: prevalence of wrinkles (Europe) vs. prevalence of acne scars (Asia). Both are problematic.

"I've fully been told, 'If you just like do yourself a favor, and don’t go out holding your girlfriend’s hand in public, you might get a Marvel movie,'" Stewart said.

Her Jean Seberg bio is getting panned before it's released.

R179 what a shock! Although I can't picture her in a superhero franchise to begin with. Hopefully she does ok with Charlie's Angels.

Kristen was such a poor choice for Seberg. There are countless actresses far more talented who could have carried that role. There are still some critics eating her performance up, like the delusional Stephanie Zacharek of Time magazine:

[quote]She’s among the greatest actresses of our day, though to call her “great” does a disservice to her subtlety—maybe it’s better to call her the master of the small gesture. The flicker of her eyelids is a dialect unto itself.

Yeah, sure Stephanie—the "master of the small gesture." Because flickering your eyelids and emulating a goth teen on adderall is so profound.

She's the acting equivalent of "she turned on her heels" or "she bit her lip" sentences in novels.

She needs some hoop earrings and sportswear and she could retire comfortably in a council estate.

Some calm the cheating scandal hurt her career/lost roles, but I don't see any evidence for that. She was cast in Julianne Moore's oscar movie shortly after - then she was working with one famous/highbrow director after another.

I think she keeps getting cast because her name helps fund these projects. Twilight really made her career.

R185 she was originally supposed to be in Focus with Ben Affleck before it ended up starring Will Smith and Margot Robbie.

Bump

She dropped out of "Focus" on her own accord - not because of the cheating scandal.

I like her. I don't know much about her. I only saw the first Twilight film. I thought her bland. I saw a more recent film with her recently. I think now that her lowkey screen presence is very suitable to film. I also find her very beautiful from every camera angle.

R188 I heard Will didn't want to work with her.

[Quote] “We lived in a different time then, you know what I mean? I feel like the slut-shaming that went down was so absurd,” Stewart said. “And they should’ve put me in that movie! It would’ve been better. Not to be a dick, but… They didn’t put me in that movie because I went through such a highly publicized scandal, and so they were like scared of touching that.” Stewart continued by saying the tabloid scandal was one of the most difficult moments of her career. “I was really young, I didn’t really know how to deal with that,” the actress said. “I made some mistakes. And honestly, it’s no one’s business.”

[Quote] “Basically, what I’m saying is, the work to me genuinely was ignored in a really sort of frivolous, silly, petty way,” Stewart added. “For a group of adult people who were supposed to be running studios and making films? Honestly, the film industry in Hollywood is so fear-based. I think they’re idiots, because if you take a little risk and make something good, people will watch it and like it and pay you.”

She's right about film studios being risk averse--hence, the shitty state of Hollywood and why they are constantly churning out Marvel movies that are guaranteed to make millions globally. Her claim about it being "nobody's business" is pretty ridiculous though--come on Kristen. You were in Hollywood for a while at that point and you're telling me that you had NO idea to at least be discrete when kissing/doing a married director? That just sounds like stupidity. And she wasn't even slut-shamed that much! If you want somebody who was really slut-shamed, look at Meg Ryan. The media sold the idea that she was a homewrecker for cheating on Dennis Quaid with Russel Crowe. But in reality, Quaid had been cheating on her for years long before that.

I like that she had to clarify that they didn't fuck.

[Quote] "I did not f--k him. This is like the most candid interview," the 29-year-old actress told Howard Stern on the latter's SiriusXM radio show Tuesday. "No, I didn't f--k him." When Stern asked his guest why she didn't scream that from the mountaintops after being photographed making out with her "Snow White and the Huntsman" director while she was dating her "Twilight" co-star and Sanders was married to Ross -- who was also in "Snow White" -- Stewart said, "Well, who's going to believe me? It doesn't even matter." "It looked like... You know, you make out with a dude in public, it definitely looks like you did [have sex]," she said, admitting, though, that the fling "wasn't innocent."

no shit they didn't fuck, she's a dyke

She will receive an Oscar one day.

R194 you spelled bisexual wrong.

I wonder if audiences will stop believing her as a heterosexual character so that she'll have to follow Jodie Foster's lead and only take roles in which she is a sexless asskicker. Remember "Somersby"? I don't think that Hollywood would make that mistake twice.

No. She was a plank of wood in Still Alice.

R195 I'm glad you said one day because it sure as hell ain't happening anytime soon 😆

I heard the cheating scandal was cooked up by Kristen and that director to get out of the Huntsman franchise.

R200 I don't buy it.

The best thing she did with her Twilight money was hire the hardest working PR team to keep pushing these nonsense movie star and great actor stories. Her career has survived on fumes much longer than most who flamed out so quickly.

I am still revulsed that she is going to be playing Princess Diana—she couldn't muster 1/100th of that grace or emotion if her life depended on it. She already bastardized Jean Seberg onscreen, which should have ended her career, among other things.

R203 I'm still baffled by that casting decision.

She's one of those famous actors/singers who don't know how to act/sing but could if they had lessons.