I was 5–7 years old during the Watergate years and didn't understand what it all meant. Looking back, Martha Mitchell is a wonderful character, but how was she depicted in the media at the time? Heroine or hot mess?
Only on datalounge would someone start a thread on an obscure z list (if that) celebrity from over 40 years ago.
It's why I love datalounge!
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 9, 2017 3:17 PM |
She was very outspoken. The rumor at the time of her death was that someone deliberately injected her with cancer cells because she was talking too much about her husband and Nixon. And allegedly threatened to tell more.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 9, 2017 3:17 PM |
I am not, fat whore @ R1
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 9, 2017 3:19 PM |
It's wierd, this is the second Martha thread I've seen here in as many days. She was regarded as both a reliable source and a hot mess. She used to drunk dial reporters and talk talk talk about her husband and the Nixon crowd. She was kind of awesome.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 9, 2017 3:24 PM |
She was no Judy Agnew.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 9, 2017 3:26 PM |
There were people who tried to discredit her, even some journalists. I think generally the public, especially those who were literate, tended to think she was telling the truth, and it turned out she was.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 9, 2017 3:30 PM |
she was mostly depicted as a hot mess, but could be they just wanted to discredit/silence her. her drunken calls to reporters helped blow up the whole scandal
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 9, 2017 3:31 PM |
R5 I knew Judy a little bit who was very sweet, kind. Her husband and my father were in the same clubs together. He already had an unsavory reputation long before he become vice president. I remember when he had won Baltimore County Executive back in '66. My parents had a party for them at our house. Luck me got to pick up all of the goddamn cigarette butts that were all over the bag yard the following day.
Anyway, I digress. My recollection about MARTHA was that yes, she was a 'character' who was considered a loose cannon. Of course everyone watched her, hoping like hell that she was going to let loose with a whooper. Her husband seemed embarrassed by her. Pity. She was fun to watch. the kind of gal who most on here would've liked to watch.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 9, 2017 3:34 PM |
Hot mess- which she was, like her husband who was a hot mess criminal.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 9, 2017 3:55 PM |
She saved this country.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 9, 2017 4:06 PM |
She was no Babe Paley.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 9, 2017 4:13 PM |
I remember her being referred to as "Moutha" for her outspoken antics.
I have a Scavullo coffee-table book, and it has a beautiful (no kidding!) photo of her. Scavullo and Way Bandy really worked their magic on her!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 9, 2017 4:44 PM |
She was the only positive aspect of Watergate.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 9, 2017 4:54 PM |
Madeline Kahn's portrayal of her was, like everything Madeline Kahn did, priceless.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 9, 2017 5:08 PM |
lol, she "saved" the country. from nixon? so we can have trump? compared to the current con man fuck up, nixon was pericles
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 9, 2017 5:08 PM |
She was a hot mess but very entertaining.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 9, 2017 5:29 PM |
Nixon was a criminal who abused his office and the trust that had been placed in him. In some ways the country has never recovered from the damage he did and we probably won't in my lifetime.
Fuckface von Clownstick has a ways to go before he can match Tricky Dick's illegal bombing and genocide in Cambodia, abuse of power, obstruction of justice and so on. I'm not saying Fuckface couldn't get there, just that he's not anywhere near there yet.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 9, 2017 6:20 PM |
Are there any disgruntled wives in the current administration that we should start taking out for fun & boozy brunches?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 9, 2017 6:39 PM |
[quote]Are there any disgruntled wives in the current administration that we should start taking out for fun & boozy brunches?
Mrs. Paul Ryan
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 9, 2017 6:43 PM |
Heidi Cruz is the one most likely to do a Trump dump.
Remember, Trump threatened Cruz during the primaries that he'd "spill the beans on your wife."
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 9, 2017 9:25 PM |
And he insulted Heidi's looks.
Dial her up for a boozy brunch, girls.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 9, 2017 9:26 PM |
What ever happened to that other blonde Watergate icon-wife-- Mo Dean?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 9, 2017 9:49 PM |
In the first years of the Nixon administration before Watergate broke, Martha Mitchell was already a common subject of news reports. She was basically a colorful booster for the administration. She said a few things a little out of school, but mainly she was considered a brash Nixon supporter. In those early years her outspoken opinions were seen as hurting Nixon only because they were too unvarnished for the wife of a cabinet member, especially the wife of the Attorney General, to be making. I have vague memories about her saying a few things about racial and social issues that caused brief brouhahas. Some of these were said on camera and some where said in night time phone calls to Helen Thomas of the UPI. Once Watergate broke, she didn't say much at first until her marriage fell apart and they divorced in 1973. It was in this time period that she claimed to have been kidnapped and drugged, etc. It was also during this time that she humorously said, "You can't have a water gate without a mill house." I think that was actually before her claims of being kidnapped.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 10, 2017 12:49 AM |
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by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 10, 2017 2:54 AM |
Give the guy a break R17. He's only been in office for less than 3 months but he's already halfway to match nixons record. I guarantee you the Dump will surpass Nixon by the end of the year, if not earlier.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 10, 2017 4:45 AM |
The Mouth of the South
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 10, 2017 4:57 AM |
They were going to make a movie a few years back about the women of Watergate called "Dirty Tricks" that was going to center on Martha Mitchell. The cast they had assembled was amazing:
Martha Mitchell: Meryl Streep
Pat Nixon: Jill Clayburgh
Mo Dean: Gwyneth Paltrow (a real lookalike)
Helen Thomas: Annette Bening (!!!)
For some reason it fell through and now it will never happen, since Clayburgh died.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 10, 2017 5:04 AM |
Did you catch that picture of you in Newsweek last week, Dick? You were standing in a crowd on Fifth Avenue, and you were looking straight ahead, and everyone else was looking the other way like you'd just farted or something. (laughs) It said: "Who Remembers Dick Nixon?" I was screaming. It was so funny!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 10, 2017 5:26 AM |
Someone should do a movie about her and cast Amy Sedaris. In OP's pic Mitchell just looks like her.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 10, 2017 8:12 AM |
It reminds me we've had Attorneys General worse than Jeff Sessions and survived.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 10, 2017 9:06 AM |
One of the things I remember about Martha Mitchell is that she reportedly made those phone calls from an upstairs bathroom at their Watergate apartment. It sounded so glamorous, as most of the apartments there were one level.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 10, 2017 10:46 AM |
The movie concept described at R29 sounds like it would have been a blast—like an adult version of [italic]Dick.[/italic] Is there no other actress who could make a good Pat Nixon? Frances McDormand, maybe?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 12, 2018 12:15 AM |
Never heard of her. Of course I was a small child during Watergate. I looked her up to see what she's doing to today and, sadly, she died in 1976.
Joan Allen could reprise her Pat Nixon. She's not too old. Where is Joan Allen anyway?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 12, 2018 12:42 AM |
[quote] The rumor at the time of her death was that someone deliberately injected her with cancer cells because she was talking too much about her husband and Nixon
The rumor at the time of her death? No. It's what Martha Mitchell squawked to anyone who would listen. Nobody believed her. If there was a way to give someone cancer by injecting them with cancer cells, people like Trump would be dead.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 12, 2018 12:47 AM |
She was so out of control that her husband hired an FBI guy to keep her off the phone (she was always calling reporters ). She managed to get on the phone anyway and the FBI guy pulled the phone cord out of the wall. Her husband then had basically kidnapped by a bunch of men in order to have her forcibly sedated by a psychiatrist. She later claimed that the injection he gave her had cancer cells in it. She died of cancer at 57. Weirdly enough, the actress who played her in “Nixon” died of cancer at the same age)
Just because you’re crazy doesn’t mean they aren’t after you. And just because they’re after you doesn’t mean you’re not crazy.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 12, 2018 12:58 AM |
Martha Mitchell was hardly an obscure z list (if that) celebrity.
After Nixon, she made herself one of the most famous names in Washington, D.C. And that was the problem the Administration faced.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 12, 2018 1:04 AM |
hot mess, trump hair
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 12, 2018 1:17 AM |
Tracy Ullman would have added Martha Mitchell to her repertoire if Martha was around today.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | April 12, 2018 1:18 AM |
She should never be forgotten.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | April 12, 2018 1:36 AM |
Retro hot mess
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 12, 2018 2:16 AM |
We had colorful characters back in the Watergate era. Rose Mary Woods, ice queen Mo Dean, Deep Throat.
Now we get Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 12, 2018 2:52 AM |
Wilbur Mills, Fanny Fox
by Anonymous | reply 46 | April 12, 2018 2:56 AM |
Growing up in DC, my impression was mostly what other posters have remembered. Then a couple years ago I happened on all these biographies of her from the time that were (unironically) adulatory. Mostly marketed to trailer trash that celebrated her as some kind of Southern archetype. The brassy, drunk kind.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 12, 2018 2:58 AM |
eliazbeth ray
blaze starr
rita jenrette
ah, those were the days
by Anonymous | reply 48 | April 12, 2018 3:01 AM |
Martha's hair in r40's clip is AMAZING.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | April 12, 2018 3:04 AM |
Fawn Hall!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | April 12, 2018 3:07 AM |
There is a podcast called Slow Burn about Watergate that is really good that I think a lot of DLers would like. There’s a whole episode on Martha. She sounds fab!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | April 12, 2018 3:19 AM |
Photographers focused on her mouth, but I adore Martha for being a Republican hairhopper ...
by Anonymous | reply 53 | April 12, 2018 4:05 AM |
Hot mess, and boy was she ever.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | April 12, 2018 4:33 PM |
Hot mess, though no one said "hot mess" those days.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | April 12, 2018 4:37 PM |
She guest-starred as a panelist on [italic]To Tell the Truth[/italic] before Watergate hit the fan.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 1, 2018 10:57 PM |
One profile described her as a vibrant, attractive woman married to an ice-cold fish. She drank to cope with a miserable marriage.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 2, 2018 12:30 AM |
[quote]The rumor at the time of her death was that someone deliberately injected her with cancer cells because she was talking too much about her husband and Nixon.
Would that even work???
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 2, 2018 12:50 AM |
Hot mess, but a likeable hot mess.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 2, 2018 12:58 AM |
Richard Nixon said in the Robert Frost interviews without Mitchell, there would've been no Watergate.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 2, 2018 1:18 AM |
Obscure? Honey, Martha Mitchell is relevant today thanks to Trump.
Who do you think kidnapped her when she called Helen Thomas to tell her about the dirty damn deeds going on at Nixon’s reelection campaign? Why none other than Stephen King - Trump’s ambassador to the Czech Republic. No diplomatic experience. Totally obscure, just .. a Watergate figure who assaulted and kidnapped Martha Mitchell.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 2, 2018 1:20 AM |
I'm surprised nobody has said "hot mess."
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 2, 2018 1:52 AM |
Why didn't she have her own talk show?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 2, 2018 1:53 AM |
What were some of the important things she blurted out?
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 2, 2018 1:53 AM |
"eliazbeth ray
blaze starr
rita jenrette
Ah, those were the days"
What a batch of bimbos. All of them were involved in some kind of political scandal.
Considered a "dynamic young woman" in Washington, Rita Jenrette snagged freshman Democratic whip John Jenrette of South Carolina as a husband 18 months after meeting him. He was subsequently convicted of taking bribes during Abscam investigation in October 1980. She told authorities that she found a closet full of bribe money belonging to her corrupt hubby. She went on talk shows and did a nude Playboy spread. She said she and her randy hubby had fucked on the Capital steps during a break in an all night House session. The comedy troupe "The Capital Steps" derived its name from that incident. After she and Jenrette divorced she did several things, did some tv and movies, went into real estate. In 2009 she married some Italian nobleman and they live in his family home in Rome. I guess she did alright; she married a rich man and that's what women like her always hope to do.
Blaze Starr, a stripper, had a long term affair with a rather repulsive, crazy Louisiana governor named Earl Long (he was ridiculously played by Paul Newman in a movie based on their relationship). She also fucked John Kennedy, but who didn't? Supposedly he fucked her in a closet. She died at age 83 in 2015. I guess she'd lived quite a life.
Elizabeth Ray was the mistress of U.S. Rep. Wayne Hays. He put her on his payroll as a clerk-secretary, but she did no actual work except service him sexually. Ray later did the obligatory nude Playboy spread and tried to find work as an actress, but she had no talent and really wasn't even that good looking. Who knows where she is today.
And then there was Fanny Foxe. Foxe was a stripper who was the lover of the grotesque Wilbur Mills, then considered one of the most powerful members of the United States House of Representatives. They were out drinking near the waterfront in Washington when the police attempted to pull their vehicle over. Foxe attempted to flee by jumping into the Tidal Basin. The incident led to Mills' resignation two months later as Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. He was re-elected to his congressional seat in 1974, but he did not run for re-election in 1976. Foxe went on to do more stripping, but got into legal trouble for being too explicit during her act. She retired from stripping soon after that. She said she wanted to go to medical after giving up stripping but I don't think that ever happened.
Those were some of the bimbo scandals back in the day. They seem almost quaint now.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 2, 2018 2:03 AM |
R66 Her husband had been Nixon’s Attorney General who resigned to become his campaign chairman. He was directly involved in the Watergate conspiracy. She became aware of this from overhearing his conversations with the “Plumbers”, Nixon’s gang of dirty tricks operatives. That’s what she later ratted out when she ultimately testifed before Congress.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 2, 2018 2:13 AM |
Fanne Fox and Wilbur Mills in the Tidal Basin was the first political sex scandal I was aware of. I don't know that's because I was entering puberty and started to take an interest or if that sort of thing was previously hushed up for powerful politicians like Mills.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 2, 2018 2:30 AM |
Grover Cleveland, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 2, 2018 3:09 AM |