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The Best Late Period Janet Album

Janet released four albums of varying quantity after her controversial Super Bowl performance. Which is the best? What album tracks do you recommend?

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by Anonymousreply 71June 20, 2018 4:29 AM

Really, I didn't know she was still alive. I heard she died in childbirth.

by Anonymousreply 1February 19, 2017 6:56 AM

She hired someone else to have it for her R1. It's her career that you heard was dead...

by Anonymousreply 2February 19, 2017 7:02 AM

Thread Closed

by Anonymousreply 3February 19, 2017 6:08 PM

They were all meh

Damita Jo had R&B Junkie and I Want You

20 Y.O. had Daybreak and Enjoy

Discipline had So Much Better and Rollercoaster

by Anonymousreply 4February 19, 2017 6:16 PM

Damita Ho is all over the place but it has some decent moments - "Like You Don't Love Me" in particular and of all the breathy odes she has made to her pussy, "Moist" is the best.

The extreme reactions Janet generates on DL are amusing. Granted she has her limitations but the albums she made during her imperial phase with Jam and Lewis hold up amazingly well.

by Anonymousreply 5February 19, 2017 6:27 PM

And I thought "Late Period Album" meant recorded while she was pregnant...

by Anonymousreply 6February 19, 2017 8:55 PM

late period turd

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by Anonymousreply 7February 19, 2017 9:12 PM

Presenting hole from the toilet's perspective..thanks, R7

by Anonymousreply 8February 19, 2017 9:40 PM

My favorite J.J. song is "Cunt Roll!"

by Anonymousreply 9February 20, 2017 1:33 AM

My favorite song was "Crispy Little Chicken Gonna Dance All Night."

by Anonymousreply 10February 20, 2017 5:07 AM

Can't B Good from Discipline is good.

Take Care is lovely, one of her best

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by Anonymousreply 11February 20, 2017 5:58 AM

who???

by Anonymousreply 12February 20, 2017 6:43 AM

[quote]who??? -- Madonna

Oh you know who, bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 13March 8, 2017 5:04 PM

And Janet had to GIVE HER ALBUM AWAY with Uber rides! The shame!

by Anonymousreply 14March 8, 2017 5:35 PM

I think "Late Period Janet" was the title of one of Judy Blume's less successful novels. Too preachy.

by Anonymousreply 15March 8, 2017 5:47 PM

UNBREAKABLE is her best album since THE VELVET ROPE, but the other post-SB albums have their merits.

DAMITA JO has some outstanding unreleased cuts that are better than some of the stuff that actually made the album (Put Your Hands On, Ruff, Could This Be Love), and the Just Blaze mix of Just A Little While titled Love Me is way better than the album version of the song. As for the album tracks, my faves are the Bag & Arnthor songs All Nite (Don't Stop) and SloLove, the slutty Strawberry Bounce, the Cathy Dennis-penned Island Life (which should've been a single) and the super-dirty Warmth. Sexhibition is filled with word play and is another good track. This album also has some wonderfully dreamy interludes. It totally suffered from SB backlash and undoubtedly would've been another in her string of #1s if not for the silliness of the tit situation.

20 YO is probably my least favorite (for the title alone), but it, too, has some good cuts. Enjoy is pure bliss reminiscent of MJ, Take Care is one of her best baby-making ballads ever and Do It To Me makes wonderful use of a Brenda Russell sample. So Excited was the second single but it's miles better than the album's debut single, the Nelly duet Call On Me. She was still knee-deep in love with Jermaine Dupri at the time, and his stamp is (unfortunately) all over this record.

DISCIPLINE returned her to her #1 album status and benefitted from the infectious dance floor-filling first single Feedback (a top 20 hit and a favorite of Madonna's--go figure). This album is track-for-track superior to 20 YO, with awesome songs like Rock With U, LUV, What's Ur Name, Rollercoaster and 2Nite (the latter of which appeared on the Sex and the City film soundtrack). Janet was now signed to Def Jam after leaving Virgin because of her fulfilled contract and a desire to work with a new record company. DJ president LA Reid's first mistake was pushing Rock With U as the second single, which went against what Janet wanted, which was for LUV to be the second single. Though RWU was likened to Donna Summer's I Feel Love with its techno/disco beats and ethereal vocals, and was ahead of its time in that every R&B artist today is now releasing Europop/EDM tracks, it fizzled at radio due to improper promotion. The mishandling of the album's promo by shady LA rubbed Janet the wrong way and prompted her to ask to be let out of her contract while she was on tour, and I can't say that I blame her. LA has a history of shady dealings with his artists.

UNBREAKABLE continued her #1 album streak and was rightfully heralded by critics and fans when it was released in 2015 as her best album in close to 20 years. With nary a sex song on it (a switch for Miss Jackson), it is deep, resonant, thought-provoking and charters waters Janet has never sailed lyrically, vocally and production-wise. Some standouts are the Fleetwood Mac-ish Take Me Away, the socially conscious Should've Known Better, Gon' B Alright (which sounds like an homage to her brothers' grooviest Motown-era songs), the club-banger Dammn Baby, the R&B AC #1 No Sleeep, the haunting Promise Of You, the ode to fallen black men Black Eagle, and the country-tinged Well Traveled.

by Anonymousreply 16March 8, 2017 5:52 PM

Take Me Away ❤🎵🎶😊👏😍🎶

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by Anonymousreply 17March 8, 2017 5:53 PM

The one-take video for Rock With U was an homage to London's Blitz Kids and featured trans performer Mimi Marks. It's a gay-ol' time!

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by Anonymousreply 18March 8, 2017 5:56 PM

OP, Janet is 53 years old. She doesn't have any periods left.

by Anonymousreply 19March 8, 2017 6:01 PM

All the late Period Albums are awful. She tried to turn into a sex kitten and just got stuck there (like Christina Aguilera). Way too much heavy breathing on all the tracks.

by Anonymousreply 20March 8, 2017 7:13 PM

[quote]like Christina Aguilera

One inspired the other

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by Anonymousreply 21March 8, 2017 9:26 PM

Die in greasefire, Janbot.

by Anonymousreply 22March 9, 2017 12:12 AM

How about you jump in and test the temperature first?

by Anonymousreply 23March 9, 2017 12:14 AM

[quote] of all the breathy odes she has made to her pussy, "Moist" is the best.

That wouldn't be the remake of that old Streisand classic, would it?

by Anonymousreply 24March 9, 2017 12:27 AM

Janet is only good for sucking the World's balls now.

by Anonymousreply 25March 9, 2017 12:33 AM

[quote] All the late Period Albums are awful. She tried to turn into a sex kitten and just got stuck there (like Christina Aguilera). Way too much heavy breathing on all the tracks.

What did you expect? The fat bitch gets out of breath waddling to the refrigerator.

by Anonymousreply 26March 9, 2017 12:36 AM

Mom and baby leaked pics for People Magazine

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by Anonymousreply 27March 9, 2017 12:41 AM

ADORABLE!!!

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by Anonymousreply 28March 9, 2017 12:42 AM

"Moist"

by Anonymousreply 29March 9, 2017 12:56 AM

"Warmth" is about giving a blow job and it's very erotic

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by Anonymousreply 30March 9, 2017 1:41 AM

[quote]That wouldn't be the remake of that old Streisand classic, would it?

Speaking of Streisand...

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by Anonymousreply 31March 9, 2017 1:50 AM

[quote] of all the breathy odes she has made to her pussy, "Moist" is the best.

I prefer "Curtains" off 20 YO:

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by Anonymousreply 32March 9, 2017 1:53 AM

Curtains? Janet singing about her pussy again?

by Anonymousreply 33March 9, 2017 2:06 AM

Is anyone else having trouble telling the difference between "Moist", "Warmth", and "Curtains"?

They sound identical to me.

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by Anonymousreply 34March 9, 2017 2:11 AM

FOR GODS SAKE!!! NONE OF THEM!!!

Kill yourself, Jabba!! Put us out of YOUR misery!!! Enough already.

by Anonymousreply 35March 9, 2017 3:02 AM

R34 either you're kidding or deaf. Warmth and Moist sound nothing alike.

by Anonymousreply 36March 9, 2017 4:18 AM

I can't be bothered to listen to them to see if they sound alike.

by Anonymousreply 37March 9, 2017 6:11 PM

It's like asking which of my last four shits was the least runny.

by Anonymousreply 38March 9, 2017 6:31 PM

Poor Jabba. Janet is all but forgotten. Even her fake baby barely made a ripple in the news. And she'll never get into the RRHOF. And now Jessica Lange is a flop in Feud. That poor, fat, brain-damaged shut-in needs to find a new obsession quickly.

by Anonymousreply 39March 9, 2017 9:21 PM

For me, definitely Discipline. Rock with U, Curtains (personal fave), Luv, Can't Be Good - some great stuff. A surprisingly good late career album IMO and fairly consistent across the album. Too many interludes though. That's my thing, interludes, skits, etc. annoy me.

by Anonymousreply 40March 9, 2017 10:04 PM

[quote] Rock with U

She just can't stop stealing from her far more talented brother.

by Anonymousreply 41March 10, 2017 12:08 AM

"Curtains" is my jam.

by Anonymousreply 42March 10, 2017 1:22 AM

[quote]Curtains? Janet singing about her pussy again?

If it were, it would have been called Drapes.

by Anonymousreply 43March 10, 2017 1:30 AM

None of us need to worry about that blob coming around again with some shitty album or soon to be cancelled world tour. She's completely over. Wherever this baby came from ,she's decided to play mommy, even though it was incredibly bad timing for tour. She's burned lots of people, and their only recourse will be to sue. At some point it'll get messy and dirty. She thinks running off to never never lad to have a bay and have both of their clits clipped will solve her problems. It's not going to work that way. People want to get paid. She owes lots of people money who she's attempting to hide from.

by Anonymousreply 44March 10, 2017 2:04 AM

Unbreakable.

by Anonymousreply 45March 10, 2017 3:18 AM

Good riddance to fat rubbish.

by Anonymousreply 46March 10, 2017 5:12 PM

UNBREAKABLE is as much a masterpiece as The Velvet Rope was and is miles better than the rubbish her contemporaries have recently put out. That it went to number one is only a bonus.

by Anonymousreply 47March 11, 2017 4:07 AM

Unbreakable is incredible. Its not for the young darlings who need Nicki Minaj featured on every track because it has class.

by Anonymousreply 48March 11, 2017 4:31 AM

Her last period was at least 10 years ago. God knows where this baby came from.

by Anonymousreply 49March 12, 2017 4:09 PM

Unbreakable was pretty "meh." I'm not seeing the genius in it. It was listenable, fine, etc. But, great?

by Anonymousreply 50March 12, 2017 9:24 PM

By 'late period' you mean 'declining sales period' right?

by Anonymousreply 51March 12, 2017 9:54 PM

Nobody has ever heard these albums so how can one judge.

by Anonymousreply 52March 12, 2017 10:17 PM

Baroness of Buttered Popcorn with Bacon.

by Anonymousreply 53March 12, 2017 10:21 PM

R52 is not even a moderately good liar.

by Anonymousreply 54March 14, 2017 1:00 AM

Unbreakable

by Anonymousreply 55October 8, 2017 5:00 AM

I thought her version of "Popular" from "Wicked" was very good. Her singing was very much improved and it was a cute duet with that gay guy.

by Anonymousreply 56October 8, 2017 5:03 AM

I thought Velvet Rope was the last great album and for the most part I am not into the later stuff. But, I was surprised at how much I liked Discipline. So, that's my vote. The others I'm not even that familiar. I gave them the once over and never went back.

by Anonymousreply 57October 8, 2017 5:06 AM

Her only great album is rhythm nation. Janet and the Velvet Rope were just OK. I didn't care for her early 00s singles, so I stopped listening to her. I quit following her after the Superbowl, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 58October 8, 2017 5:13 AM

Allmusic gave excellent reviews to 20 YO, Discipline, and Unbreakable.

Damita Jo (the current poll leader) got a poor review.

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by Anonymousreply 59October 8, 2017 5:14 AM

""Relax, it's just sex," Janet Jackson murmurs at the conclusion of "Sexhibition," the third song on her eighth album, Damita Jo. Those words were recorded long before Jackson wound up America with her breast-baring exploits at the halftime show at the 2004 Super Bowl, but they nevertheless play like an casual response to the hysteria that engulfed the nation following her infamous "wardrobe malfunction."

But, really, they're there to head off any criticism that could be leveled at Damita Jo, yet another album that finds Janet exploring her sexuality, a voyage she's been on for about 11 years (Magellan and his crew circled the globe in a third that time, but hey, who's counting?). While sex indisputably fuels much great pop music, it isn't an inherently fascinating topic for pop music -- as with anything, it all depends on the artist. Prince, of course, found an endless amount of ways to write intriguingly about sex, since it fired his imagination, a quality that has been missing on Janet's albums since 1993's janet..

With its preponderance of slow-tempo, sensual grooves, sexual imagery, occasional up-tempo jams, and endless spoken interludes, it provided the blueprint for every record she made since, from the heavy eroticism of 1997's The Velvet Rope to the bedroom sighs of 2001's All for You.

The latter suggested that she was abandoning the explicitness of The Velvet Rope, but Damita Jo proves that she was merely flirting with modesty, since it's as explicit as pop music gets. Actually, it's the aural equivalent of hardcore pornography -- it leaves nothing to the imagination and it's endlessly repetitive.

Like a porn star, Janet adopts an alter ego built on her middle name ("There's another side that you will never know: Damita Jo"), provides detailed oral-sex manuals with "Warmth" and "Moist," nicknames her clitoris, and tosses around allusions to a variety of taboo sex acts; in this context, all the interview snippets scattered throughout the record -- "I love curling up with a good book and relaxing by the ocean with my baby," "When you look at me, do you want me?" -- recall nothing less than a Playboy or Penthouse centerfold confessing her turn-ons.

Such doggedly literal lyrics lack any sensuality, and weigh Damita Jo down. If the music had its own sensuality or spark, it'd be easier to forgive or overlook Jackson's whispered vulgarities, but the album's slow grooves blend together, lacking rhythmic or melodic hooks. Jackson disappears into the productions, once again largely the responsibility of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, becoming part of the arrangement instead of standing in front of it. And while there are a couple of cuts that do cut through the slow-groove loops -- on the slower side, "I Want You" has a verse that's memorable, while "Just a Little While" is a good dance tune -- they pale next to the hits from All for You; that they stand out on Damita Jo says more about the album than the songs themselves. Ironically, for an album with so much sex on its mind, it's not a good make-out record because its grooves are cold and Janet's ceaseless dirty talk spoils whatever mood the music had struggled to create.

Once, Ms. Jackson's sexual obsession was indeed sexy and erotic, but by this point, it's not just tired, it's embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 60October 8, 2017 5:18 AM

I can semi-agree, R58, even though I think the Control, Rhythm Nation, Janet, Velvet Rope run were all pretty great. But, if pressed , I could take out Janet certainly - because although I think it has some of her best songs, songs that I love, the filler is awful. Less so for the Velvet Rope, but there's still some lame filler.

But, even reducing Velvet Rope and Janet to "very good" not "great," I still think she has two great albums - Rhythm Nation and definitely Control. I know Control is pre-transformation Janet, but it's everything I love about early Janet. And, it's a tight album and I love all the songs, save or He Doesn't Know I'm Alive and You Can Be Mine (which I think are the only two non-singles). But, I still like those songs.

by Anonymousreply 61October 8, 2017 5:22 AM

Now I remember that's all she could sing about was sex. What's with all these aging pop stars? Madonna's trying this sexy for her age schtick so hard, Mariah's got them big fake titties and the too tight clothes, etc.

by Anonymousreply 62October 8, 2017 5:24 AM

[quote]Now I remember that's all she could sing about was sex.

Particularly sad since she tried to shade Madonna for selling sex and the album after she did that she had to do the same. It's been her schtick ever since.

by Anonymousreply 63October 8, 2017 6:49 PM

Unbreakable is a very underrated and subtle album. Its her best since Velvet Rope.

by Anonymousreply 64October 10, 2017 4:47 AM

I loved to watch her on Good Times !!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 65October 10, 2017 5:07 AM

A "late period" started this whole debacle of a comeback

by Anonymousreply 66October 10, 2017 5:12 AM

Unbreakable

by Anonymousreply 67June 20, 2018 2:12 AM

Another vote for Unbreakable

by Anonymousreply 68June 20, 2018 4:19 AM

Discipline

by Anonymousreply 69June 20, 2018 4:21 AM

Damita Jo is also underrated

by Anonymousreply 70June 20, 2018 4:24 AM

Chicken Grease In My Encino Ghetto Snatch - was the best.

by Anonymousreply 71June 20, 2018 4:29 AM
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