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Escorts

Have you ever hired an escort? How did you find him? How did it go?

by Anonymousreply 280November 25, 2019 6:23 PM

A number of DLers have been escorts, too. Please tell us about that as well!

by Anonymousreply 1January 10, 2017 7:16 PM

pictures are a plus

by Anonymousreply 2January 10, 2017 7:22 PM

Yes, go to rentmen, masseurfinder, massagem4m, Daddysreviews. There's also Daddy's Forums for discussion of escorts and their natural habitats (the gym and bedrooms). Backpage still has them but they're under "Dating - M for M" now.

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by Anonymousreply 3January 10, 2017 7:36 PM

Hired Chris Duffy in San Francisco in the 90's. Drugged out of his mind. Beautiful body but not a great experience. His wife kept walking thru the room to make sure he was ok.

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by Anonymousreply 4January 10, 2017 7:45 PM

Some good, some bad.

It's a pity even escorts catfish -- using false or misleading pics just like sluts and trolls on Grindr.

Try to get them on webcam before meeting to verify their looks. Also, check out their escort reviews.

by Anonymousreply 5January 10, 2017 7:50 PM

Daddysreviews is still the top review site I think. Also cruisingforescorts and men4rentnow.

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by Anonymousreply 6January 10, 2017 7:56 PM

I'm batting just better than 50/50 with escorts. Usually a good time. One nightmare, one disappointment.

by Anonymousreply 7January 10, 2017 8:18 PM

Chris Duffy today.

Sweet Bird of Youth fly, fly away....

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by Anonymousreply 8January 10, 2017 8:26 PM

I did a few times when I was younger, mostly just for the sheer experience of it.

The most remarkable was the Colt performer Ty Hudson. He completely wore me out--he was inexhaustible.

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by Anonymousreply 9January 10, 2017 8:30 PM

I also once hired Tatum Parks but I was completely intimidated by his body. He is such a sweet gentle man, though.

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by Anonymousreply 10January 10, 2017 8:32 PM

It might be the economy, but a lot of guys on dating apps (at least in LA) are up for meeting guys for money.

by Anonymousreply 11January 10, 2017 8:41 PM

Sounds interesting

by Anonymousreply 12January 10, 2017 8:48 PM

R9 He looks good in the pic.

by Anonymousreply 13January 10, 2017 8:50 PM

Duffy still looks hot as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 14January 10, 2017 8:53 PM

Duffy still looks hot as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 15January 10, 2017 8:53 PM

I've thought about hiring before. I'm off the market now, but back when I was single and traveled a lot I considered it.

With that kind of situation, though, I'd want to be more of a voyeur who got to be a little handsy, maybe got to take a facial. But most of the ads were explicit about top/bottom. There also weren't many older "daddy" types at the time, at least not that I saw much of.

by Anonymousreply 16January 10, 2017 8:57 PM

I love that guy r10. Glad to hear you found him as nice in person as he comes across on camera.

by Anonymousreply 17January 10, 2017 9:03 PM

R8 - White guys should never get yellow tattoos. They look like jaundice.

by Anonymousreply 18January 10, 2017 9:22 PM

[quote]With that kind of situation, though, I'd want to be more of a voyeur who got to be a little handsy, maybe got to take a facial. But most of the ads were explicit about top/bottom.

They talk about topping and bottoming because they know that is something they will be asked a lot about.

If you wanted to hire an escort just to have them jack off and give you a facial they would have loved that. Easy money for them.

by Anonymousreply 19January 10, 2017 9:34 PM

I've always wanted to, but just can't get past the idea of someone who's not into me having sex with me for money. I really wish I could --- I've got plenty of disposable income and I DO go to strip clubs, but have never done the escort thing.

by Anonymousreply 20January 11, 2017 1:41 AM

I've had good luck with Rentmen - in NYC, Berlin, and Paris over the past three years. Also refer to Daddy's Review's as well. Though I've only been with 8 different men, I'm clear that they are offering a service - and like with any service you need to be aware, ask questions, be clear about your needs and be respectful. At least with escorts you know that its only about the sex without (hopefully) games or drama - just pay for their time and you're done.

by Anonymousreply 21January 11, 2017 5:35 AM

Isn't gayromeo the most popular escort site in Europe, r21?

by Anonymousreply 22January 11, 2017 5:57 AM

Do you pay by the hour?

by Anonymousreply 23January 11, 2017 6:24 AM

How do you think you pay -- by the inch?

by Anonymousreply 24January 11, 2017 6:26 AM

[quote] I've got plenty of disposable income and I DO go to strip clubs, but have never done the escort thing

Strip clubs have always baffled me. I've nothing about escorts; think they should be fully legal but regulated; and think more sex should be directly transactional. It would simplify things with clear understanding without emotion or attachment. However, I simply don't have the inclination.

by Anonymousreply 25January 11, 2017 6:35 AM

Any white male escorts with yellow skin?

by Anonymousreply 26January 11, 2017 6:36 AM

Just don't fall in Iove with them!!!

by Anonymousreply 27January 11, 2017 9:40 AM

[quote]can't get past the idea of someone who's not into me having sex with me for money.

I can't either. It's amazing that basically every other guy on the planet has no issue though...and never did (oldest profession and all). I'd be stuck thinking that the whole time he'd just want it to be over and am afraid I'd totally not get into it. Also, the type of guy that I'd actually think is worth paying $250 for is rarely on those sites or in porn.

by Anonymousreply 28January 11, 2017 9:53 AM

You have to pay for Dick?

by Anonymousreply 29January 11, 2017 9:53 AM

I know, right? R29^

by Anonymousreply 30January 11, 2017 10:21 AM

Are these websites for freelancers, or is there a shady escort agency behind the scenes, taking a cut?

Also, how does one pay for a whore these days? Square? Cash? When do you pay---before or after?

by Anonymousreply 31February 12, 2017 2:00 AM

I posted on another thread about meeting one of the Sean Cody guys. He was handsome and well built, but I lost interest, knowing that he was there solely because I was paying him, so I stopped, and asked him to leave.

A few years ago, though, I saw an ad on Craigslist under the men for women section, and emailed the guy. He had an incredible body. He was flattered by the attention, but said he could never let a guy blow him. We went back and forth a few times, and then I offered him money. He was over in a few hours, and he was even better in person. I met with him a few more times, but he ended up getting married and had a kid, and wouldn't meet me after that. Too bad!

by Anonymousreply 32February 12, 2017 2:12 AM

When I lived in NY, I had three great experiences with escorts. Two were porn stars and the best was a Criag's list guy. I also hired two guys in Spain. I am glad that I did it. But would not repeat.

by Anonymousreply 33February 12, 2017 2:16 AM

I hired alot for almost 20yrs. I dont recommend it. When you depend on it to satisfy your sexual needs it makes it very difficult to have regular relationships because you have been in charge all the time and its also a turn off to someone you might be dating to know that you are out buying escorts. its a threat. I never told anyone and it made my regular relationships more difficult. The trust. lastly it becomes hard to make the distinction between the escort is there because you are paying him or because he is your "friend" lol, Always he is there because you are paying him. Always. I made that mistake way too many times.

by Anonymousreply 34February 12, 2017 2:18 AM

Hell fuck escorts. I still pick up hustlers, because they're cheap, you can check out the merchandise, and some of them are 'barely' legal if you get my drift. I wants me some teenage hole, and I'm gonna get it.

by Anonymousreply 35February 12, 2017 2:19 AM

R32 Spare us. You are the troll who claims to have seduced a Sean Cody escort but you will not name the city or the guy. You created an entire thread just to jerk yourself off at our curiosity.

by Anonymousreply 36February 12, 2017 2:34 AM

R32 is a sloot and a beta chode

by Anonymousreply 37February 12, 2017 2:38 AM

Do any of the guys who dance at Adonis escort? I've been there a few times, and have seen some amazing specimens. I've been tempted to approach them to do "private" shows, but I find it all very awkward. I know this sounds silly, but I'm kind of afraid of insulting the by essentially asking them if they're hookers. Is it acceptable to ask them?

by Anonymousreply 38February 12, 2017 3:02 AM

LA or NY, R38?

by Anonymousreply 39February 12, 2017 3:03 AM

NY, r39. There are some beautiful dancers there.

by Anonymousreply 40February 12, 2017 3:18 AM

HIRED one? I MARRIED one.

by Anonymousreply 41February 12, 2017 3:46 AM

In your case, R41, that's the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 42February 12, 2017 3:55 AM

Yes and it was worth it !

by Anonymousreply 43February 12, 2017 4:01 AM

Paid 6500 for a weekend with Andy Taylor.

by Anonymousreply 44February 12, 2017 4:01 AM

R44=Barney Fife

by Anonymousreply 45February 12, 2017 4:11 AM

Who's Andy Taylor?

by Anonymousreply 46February 12, 2017 4:12 AM

R46 He used to be in Duran Duran.

by Anonymousreply 47February 12, 2017 5:50 AM

I made an appointment about 15 years ago (actually two appointments, now that I think about it), but chickened out both times. I was a nice guy though, and contacted them in advance to let them know I couldn't make it. I think the names were Mike Gray and Brendan Casey.

I kind of regret cancelling, but I think I would have been too freaked out to enjoy anything.

by Anonymousreply 48February 12, 2017 11:51 AM

It's hit or miss. They're either hot as hell and terrific in bed or they're average looking and terrible in bed. It wasn't worth the $300 an hour I can tell you that. An erotic massage by a hot masseur for $100-$150 an hour will give you far more bang (no pun intended) for your buck.

And you can always send them away at the door if they don't fit match their profile. Never, ever give out a credit card to them before services are rendered no matter what they say, and a cash payment should come at the end.

by Anonymousreply 49February 12, 2017 12:04 PM

Never pay up front. You will be ripped out. NEVER do not pay after sex or you can be killed. happened to two sort of friends of mine. never withhold money from a hooker after sex

by Anonymousreply 50February 12, 2017 6:42 PM

Why would anyone hire an escort and not to pay? They're there for money.

by Anonymousreply 51February 12, 2017 7:43 PM

R44, this Andy Taylor?

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by Anonymousreply 52February 12, 2017 8:04 PM

I remember LA Frontiers magazine use to run a large number of escort ads. Some of those guys photos had not changed in decades. Assume the new cyber whores are no different.

by Anonymousreply 53February 12, 2017 8:28 PM

I wish there was a site where you could hire a big brother or a dad type to hang out with; go to the movies, do some play wrestling and put each other in headlocks (not the kind that hurt tho); go bowling and do fun stuff

by Anonymousreply 54February 12, 2017 8:35 PM

I had an older friend ( I'm his age now) who hired the same "masseur" for years. They had a steady appointment once a week for ten years. I believe it was just mutual jo with occasional oral. Of course the benefit is familiarity . However the pitfall is that my friend became emotionally attached. The masseur was invited to all my friends holiday parties, actually took him on a cruise. Showed up at my friends funeral. Despite the 20 year difference in age I think it worked out for my friend. I would look for a similar "arrangement" but no matter how "nice"the massuer/escort was I would still know I was paying him to touch me. I remember how pitiful my friend sounded telling me after all these years the masseur still would not kiss him . But in those days I was young and guys loved to kiss me gratis.Perhaps as I get older I can become more practical. Why not?

by Anonymousreply 55February 12, 2017 8:42 PM

Why not become more practical R55; it wasn't the best circumstance for your pal (sorry for you loss), but look at women (and men) who marry each other for financial security.

What's the difference, I ask?

I think it's better to have something, rather than nothing.

The massage guy showed up for your pal's funeral so I like to think he felt something, beyond the $$

by Anonymousreply 56February 12, 2017 9:24 PM

Tonight i read about a 70plus ex attorney in washington who is married to latin guy in his late 20s. very hot. wish i phil berg and ronal resueros

by Anonymousreply 57February 13, 2017 2:47 AM

I was in Berlin last year and after a night of crazy sexcapades, I was walking through this park near my hotel. This really hot guy asked if he could come to my hotel with me because he really wanted a blowie. I was still horny, so I said yes. He took a shower before I started to suck him. After about 30 minutes, he busted. Then he wanted money! Wtf! I told him I only had 35 euros, which I did. I gave it to him and he was PISSED! He said he wouldn't leave until I gave him more money. I told him I was leaving town and was expecting my "friends who are next door" to knock on the door soon to wake me. It was about 5 in the morning. He FINALLY left after about 20 minutes of harassing me! Fuck. I was so relieved when he left. It wasn't even worth it.

by Anonymousreply 58February 13, 2017 3:53 AM

it's all about money and having something they want R57.

I don't mind buying people; I just mind not having the money to buy them.

R58, sorry you went through that; it's too bad there wasn't more clear communication.

I have grindr chats and as soon as I'm asked if I"m generous, I say 'with my time' then I cut 'em off and block 'em.

by Anonymousreply 59February 13, 2017 4:44 AM

[quote] Paid 6500 for a weekend with Andy Taylor.

He always put out!

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by Anonymousreply 60February 13, 2017 4:50 AM

I've hired a few over the years--maybe five or six--with mixed results. This guy was the best, although he's the only guy I've ever had sex with I could not keep up with. He's a former Hot House/Colt star named Ty Hudson--a very nice guy. He looked like this when I saw him.

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by Anonymousreply 61February 13, 2017 4:53 AM

" I wish there was a site where you could hire a big brother or a dad type to hang out with; go to the movies, do some play wrestling and put each other in headlocks (not the kind that hurt tho); go bowling and do fun stuff"

You could absolutely do that with most escorts, and you are not a freak for wanting to do it. The trouble is that it would cost you the same amount by the hour as sex would. But if you're willing to pay, look for ads that talk about "the boyfriend experience" or being willing to hang out. Believe me, most escorts are relieved NOT to have to have sex with a paying client.

by Anonymousreply 62February 13, 2017 4:56 AM

Gio Dell NYC Slutty massage and escort service Hot

by Anonymousreply 63February 13, 2017 5:12 AM

Do any of them still give S&H Green Stamps?

by Anonymousreply 64February 13, 2017 5:14 AM

thanks R62; when I can afford it...the trick is finding the right guy.

by Anonymousreply 65February 13, 2017 5:14 AM

R64 How many books do you have?

by Anonymousreply 66February 13, 2017 5:16 AM

I started to hire when i was about 35 and it became a bad habit and it got out of control. I was flying guys in from all over the world. I started to feel like a travel agent and the time spent on sex was not that long. Not sure why i kept doing it.Cause i was exhausted after they left and didnt really have a good time. Most of the guys were extremely attractive. One was a model so hot but a miscommunication about fee led me to believe he expected one amount and he in fact expected alot more like 10times more. i explained what i had said was I did not have a G5 plane to pick him up as a joke and he claims he heard 5g's anyway I explained i have never and would never pay that amount. We worked it out and i saw him three more times. he is a doctor now in southern ca. i never got a response from my last email. a friend of his , now also a doctor very clearly told me....."he doesnt need you anymore" lol. which i already knew. but i like to push the envelope and he was and is still a sex addict so thought i would give it one last try. lol Another thing i used to do and it never failed. was to roll up in $100 bill a note that simply said $1,000 please call me.with my number. it never ever failed. basically everyone is an escort its just a matter of the amount. I am sure if you handed arnold a similar note but with much larger numbers he would quickly go back to his escorting days. lol

by Anonymousreply 67February 13, 2017 9:19 PM

I remember worrying if I would be rich enough to hire escorts when i'm old and ugly. I would ponder starting a fund for sex if needed when the time came. Well I could probably get dates with guys my own age but I have really lost interest and I would be too intimidated to show may naked 56 y/o body to anyone or any age. I think I would go mad if I had the sex drive I had at 25 now and having to scrape together my pennies to hire someone for sex.

by Anonymousreply 68February 13, 2017 10:00 PM

R68. escorts are very forgiving. they have to be. for $300 you can get a very hot man. Its just not something you want to get used to cause $300 once , twice three times a week adds up and just like in house help they always have car problems and drama going on in their life so if you stick with one escort you are going to have to get involved in all of that stuff. best to switch them around so you keep it all business

by Anonymousreply 69February 13, 2017 10:03 PM

I'm 28 and have never hired an escort though the idea is kind of a turn-on.

It's the whole power play thing, that you've just bought this guys' time and he's pretty much got to agree to do whatever you tell him. I mean plenty of bottoms are like that, but it's a personality thing. Would be hot if the guy was sort of alpha and you knew he was being subservient because money.

by Anonymousreply 70February 13, 2017 10:15 PM

R70. there you go now you are getting the hang of it. lol. I met what i consider to be extrem hot str8 gay for pay man age 28 his ex girlfriend had told him about the site i met him on. i saw him for three years. he had a goatee. and it was weird he would play with almost any fantasy. I am always very respectful with people so i would always ask him clearly if something was not something he wanted to do. it was always , no thats cool. so i knew two str8 latin brothers very experienced and they simulated a rape scene. he actually said it might be fun. i was ok, it had to be with condom , one of the latins asked if he would shave off his goatee, it was the only time he was very direct and said ABSOLUTELY NOT I WILL NOT SHAVE MY GOATEE. lol, no problem, it was pretty hot scene

by Anonymousreply 71February 13, 2017 10:20 PM

15 years ago I had bareback sex with a now-forgotten porn star names Enrico Vega. We met 3 times, maybe 4. Onice I even took him to that play with Jefferson Mays, about the German drag queen.

Hottest. $ex. Ever. Seriously. He was a wild pig. We are both the same age, I am 52 now, so God knows what he must look like. Years later I saw he was i. bareback and he did scat films! Blech. I can only imagine what he looks like today.

Mario Ortiz was very sweet. Not much face-wise but he was thickly hung.

Talvin Demachio was just ok. He was not all that great.

The beauty was Tina Lopez, ass for days! He had the loveliest skin. I hired him a lot; I have traced him to LA, he has a wife and kids. If I ever get back out there, I may call his business and see if he wants to hook again.

I have not hired in over 10 years and I am much happier.

by Anonymousreply 72February 13, 2017 10:24 PM

Omg.

by Anonymousreply 73February 13, 2017 10:26 PM

another thread i mentioned the chippendale dancer i sort of fell for and hired and recently contacted on facebook. i brought him to california twice. such a cool guy. i lost touch . sent him friend request three years ago when i saw him on facebook, he only accepted it couple months ago . we spoke . we joked and then he declined the request . funny. anyway he has three kids, are really beautiful blonde wife. she is alot prettier than me. lol

by Anonymousreply 74February 13, 2017 10:30 PM

Details R74. You hired him-- what did you do? How did you first meet him? Were you his only male client?

by Anonymousreply 75February 13, 2017 10:54 PM

he was referred to me by a well known man (deceased) who i am sure referred him to alot of big shots in town. the chippendale dancer was cool and very funny , great sense of humor . once time he asked if i wanted him to bring a friend. i said sure if he is like you. three ways dont usually work out. I was not really attracted to the friend but i remember the three of us in bed and no one knowing how or when to really start. it was funny

by Anonymousreply 76February 13, 2017 11:03 PM

R72 here. I have been contacted COUNTLESS times by guys on Instagram and Facebook in recent years. I enjoy saying NO. I loathe the idea of spending the cash now, even though it would be much lass expensive today! I had one Latino hottest who wanted $25 for me to blow him. I can get guys for free though through Grindr. I also feel they guys are much lessential safety conscious these days. Other than Enrico, who behaved like a gentleman and respectfully only stayed in my ass for a minute before pulling out and cumming on my chest, they were very safe.

I forgot the last one I hired was the porn star Spike. He was very well hung but was rather femme. He said he was an artist and hevsaid he would NEVER work for Michael Lucas, those points I remember quite well. Anyway I bought beer bottles which I poured on him and licked off his butt. It was more wet than sexy. It looked better on porn films. He ejaculated all over my face, that was also less fun than you would think. I'm retrospect maybe I was just losing interest in porn stars.

by Anonymousreply 77February 13, 2017 11:03 PM

Thank you for sharing. R72..........too much information

by Anonymousreply 78February 13, 2017 11:05 PM

A few years ago in NYC a friend of mine hired Finding Prince Charming's escort prince, Robert Sepulveda. He refused to do anything except for mutual masturbation because he felt the chemistry wasn't right, then he still demanded his full fee and, when my friend refused, he asked him for his $800 cashmere overcoat instead. They nearly came to blows over it. RSJ was so rude.

by Anonymousreply 79February 13, 2017 11:06 PM

R72 here......you know who reminds me of myself - Andy Cohen. Between Boomer Banks' Instagram pics of Boomer holding Wacha on Andy's birthday and previous pics of Andy and Boomer in an embrace on the old set of WWHL, I strongly suspect Andy's making up for any money I've stopped spending.

by Anonymousreply 80February 13, 2017 11:16 PM

I saw Boomer Banks at Industry or Therapy and he was revolting looking and he had just won best NYC Escort or something. I guess that bar is very low, though not low enough for some people.

by Anonymousreply 81February 13, 2017 11:27 PM

My vices are giving massages and seeing sexy underwear on hot men. I have paid 200-300 for 2 hours, I rub down the men (including jo) and have them pose in some of my undies hard, which I take pics of to enjoy later. They don't touch me and I remain clothed. I do this a few times a year, no porn stars. Nobody cums the guys I hire like that as they can go straight to another client with no problem.

by Anonymousreply 82February 13, 2017 11:56 PM

R77, what do people in the escort business think of Robert Sepulveda Jnr?

by Anonymousreply 83February 14, 2017 12:11 AM

Has anyone ever hired Tommy Defendi? I've never hired anyone (except for the 35 euros I had to give to that hustler from my earlier post. I'm not older, but he would be the only guy I would hire. I've looked for him in Los Angeles and only found him once long ago. Does anyone know where he's at or what name to search under? I've looked under Tommy Defendi, but no luck yet. Thanks in advance.

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by Anonymousreply 84February 14, 2017 12:22 AM

So R74/R76 you did not explain what you did in bed with the Chippendale dancer. Would he kiss you? Suck/Fuck you? Or just get serviced? Was his friend also straight and did they touch each other or was it just for you to do what you wanted?

by Anonymousreply 85February 14, 2017 12:27 AM

[quote]Does anyone know where he's at or what name to search under?

Tommy Defendi has an ad under that name on rentmen.com.

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by Anonymousreply 86February 14, 2017 12:42 AM

R48 i've also contacted Mike Grey and chickened out too. He's uncut and into ws right?

He seemed just my type, handsome etc. but i worry about STIs with escorts.

by Anonymousreply 87February 14, 2017 1:05 AM

Anyone ever met Chris Neal?

by Anonymousreply 88February 14, 2017 1:18 AM

R85. yes straight gay for pay. we kissed, fuck, suck, he was open to all. safely. the friend i believe might have been more bi but claimed to be total straight but my feeling was he had small crush on the hotter guy, both very easy to be around

by Anonymousreply 89February 14, 2017 2:09 AM

Are there any black bodybuilders in NYC who escort?

by Anonymousreply 90February 14, 2017 2:17 AM

Thanks R89-- very hot.

by Anonymousreply 91February 14, 2017 2:18 AM

sure . i am full of stories . all factual. i spent a few years meeting every fantasy i had in my head. Rob sager , eddie leon, christian boeving .some real hotties

by Anonymousreply 92February 14, 2017 2:35 AM

sorry eddie leone playgirl

by Anonymousreply 93February 14, 2017 2:37 AM

R86 Thank you. Just found out he owns a pit bull. UGH.

by Anonymousreply 94February 14, 2017 3:12 AM

R92, would you ever have hired ROBERT SEPULVEDA?

by Anonymousreply 95February 14, 2017 3:17 AM

maybe 10 times. 9 were great - i told them what I wanted, saw their pics, read reviews. 1 was just silly - it was late at night and I didn't get all the info to be sure he was a match. He was a sweet hipster living in a unheated apartment and he had an average cock and didnt know how to fuck. I gave him the money and left. I sent him a message that he was sweet and handsome but he should drop the bullshit about being horse hung because it will be bad for his business. He blocked me. He had miraculously clever dic pics. Not photoshopped but very deceptive. I have a discerning eye and didnt sniff it out.

by Anonymousreply 96February 14, 2017 3:51 AM

R79 What? Full price?

by Anonymousreply 97February 14, 2017 8:56 AM

[quote] The beauty was Tina Lopez, ass for days! He had the loveliest skin.

His name was Tina? Did he name himself after his favorite drug?

by Anonymousreply 98February 14, 2017 7:45 PM

I'm surprised Prince Truvada never got his face or head based in.

by Anonymousreply 99February 14, 2017 9:18 PM

R89 - You old men are so gullible. And you even have the audacity to still claim years later, that someone that would kiss, suck and fuck your saggy old body, is 'straight'. No fool like an old fool. The fact that someone being 'straight' is something you desire, also says a lot about you. Fucking pathetic, self-loathing assholes.

by Anonymousreply 100February 14, 2017 9:26 PM

And what of Fozzy Bear Fawaz? Or Isaac Mazad. Or whatever his name is these days. Anyone in London (or long ago, Sydney)?

by Anonymousreply 101February 14, 2017 10:51 PM

*Mazar ^

by Anonymousreply 102February 14, 2017 10:54 PM

Thanks R100 . little girls like you amuse me. you obviously dont like the term gay for pay. and you obviously have not been out into the world much. sexuality is very fluid. its unlikely i am sure you get much sex as you have a very nasty mood about you. but yea there are many straight men who have sex with men and get paid for it. I have no desire to try educate a poor little skank living in some studio apt in tyler texas. buzz off. trust me little girl our worlds would never cross but here and now thats done.

by Anonymousreply 103February 14, 2017 11:14 PM

R100 I will also give you a parting gift. an education for your ignorance . Trolls , possibly you are a young troll? you hate to hear that men who always reject you , alot i am sure. That they can be had if the person has the means to do it. And guys like you just really hate that cause not only can you not have the experience cause you cant afford it but no one is ever going to sleep with you for your looks and that makes you really angry. i have been lucky to experience both to be desired because of being attractive and later having the means.. there you go. now beat it

by Anonymousreply 104February 14, 2017 11:19 PM

R103 R104 No fool like an old fool

by Anonymousreply 105February 15, 2017 12:20 AM

Correction.......Old RICH Fool. and i have had and continue to have a blast!!. Dont be jealous. yes i am old now. cant believe it but i am . but i have traveled and met with the best, so far its been a great life and anything i share is factual. cause i have no need to share fantasy. been with pretty much anyone i chose to be with. with the exception of sophia whatevers husband joe.but actually found someone identical if not better. and that was a great time for a year.

by Anonymousreply 106February 15, 2017 12:50 AM

R106, would be very interested to hear about what men who hire escorts think of Robert Sepulveda Jnr. He was definitely hooking for years, not just his college years.

by Anonymousreply 107February 15, 2017 1:43 AM

Sorry i think you asked my thoughts about him earlier.R106 . He is attractive man but he is not my type. I think i posted the names of the men i liked, i also have very off the wall tastes. which comes from growing up mid west and lusting after old cowboys. The heath ledger character in Broke Back is my ideal. In my eyes Robert Sepulveda is more like the other character played by ?? anyway he is not my type.

by Anonymousreply 108February 15, 2017 1:48 AM

r98 - lol, you are right - it is TINO. Not Tina

Here he is about to be given a bj. He is turning 39 this summer.

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by Anonymousreply 109February 15, 2017 2:05 AM

I have. I always found it pretty mechanical. Once I got crabs. Another time I got an email from the guy saying he had tested positive for syphillis. So I had to go get tested. I wasn't infected. I at least give him credit for being honest enough to let me know. But it (finally) struck me as fairly stupid to pay for an STD. So that was the end for me.

by Anonymousreply 110February 15, 2017 2:14 AM

R110, glad you got out okay and unscathed.

I don't think people should die wondering what it's like to be with a fantasy.

Turning into a regular thing is something else -- but I don't judge.

by Anonymousreply 111February 15, 2017 2:46 AM

What about mainstream actors, not porn stars? When the roles aren't coming they gotta pay rent somehow.

by Anonymousreply 112February 15, 2017 8:29 AM

R112. I guess you have been to Los Angeles? the actors who make it know how to play the game. history shows you what actors get to be movie stars. this town is ruled by the star makers

by Anonymousreply 113February 15, 2017 4:36 PM

R103, thank you.

Just wondered if it was acceptable for an escort to say he wouldn't agree to any acts until he saw what kind of 'chemistry' there was between you and him. This is what Robert Sepulveda said to his clients. He would still demand $300 an hour and there might only have been mutual masturbation.

by Anonymousreply 114February 15, 2017 5:52 PM

Erna how much do you charge?

by Anonymousreply 115February 15, 2017 6:15 PM

The closest I've gotten was hiring a Ford Escort.

by Anonymousreply 116February 15, 2017 6:20 PM

I was an escort. It sucked.

by Anonymousreply 117February 15, 2017 6:20 PM

R114. I always thought that was fair. See how the Chemistry is. I am not going to do the " I look x and people always say why do you pay bullshit" but i was very good looking when i was younger and had many old homos take me to dinner and i put out for a few. but i am very respectful of any escort i would hire now days . I make sure i am totally clean , polite and upfront. But I do have two friends in the entertainment business who are frankly hideous and not really very nice people. They know they are very unattractive and they get off demeaning a hot guy escort. i have no idea how they get guys to stay and i really should not call these two friends cause i think they are really sad individuals.. When i was young i would never have spent time with them for any amount of money.

by Anonymousreply 118February 15, 2017 6:21 PM

This is about people who enjoy having sex with men.

Fish at r117 is not welcome here.

by Anonymousreply 119February 15, 2017 6:38 PM

[quote]I was an escort. It sucked.

I'll bet you did, too!

by Anonymousreply 120February 15, 2017 6:51 PM

I promise the men you hire to suck your gay dick probably hate it and make fun of you afterwards with their friends. Don't kid yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 121February 15, 2017 6:56 PM

I'm from Canada where we, of course, have porn stars and handsome escorts walking around all over the place. The best I can do is this: one night some friends asked me if I wanted to go over to a Detroit gay bar where porn star Jeff Stryker was going to be but I declined the offer (not really a big fan of J.S.). They told me the next day that everyone stood in line to see Jeff, shake his hand and say hello. They stated that he was short and robotic, not really into it. My big chance to meet/see Jeff Stryker.........!

by Anonymousreply 122February 15, 2017 7:12 PM

Why should men (aka str8 guys) pay fish for sex?

It should be the other way around!

by Anonymousreply 123February 15, 2017 7:23 PM

R121 - Yea, these pathetic old things have no clue how they're perceived. The male ego is something to behold. Some are so deluded as to think these escorts are their buddies.

And I for one, welcome you to this thread, giving your perspective as someone that escorted. R119 doesn't want to be told how hideous he is to the people he pays to touch him.

by Anonymousreply 124February 15, 2017 7:35 PM

I hired Alec Powers in Vegas about 12 yrs ago. Most beautiful man I've ever seen, by far. Very friendly, laid back and talkative. Mutual b/j's. No anal. He went overtime and didn't mind. Best money I ever spent. Stuff of j/o fantasies to this day.

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by Anonymousreply 125February 15, 2017 7:38 PM

Thanks R124. Something I learned long ago, is the typical John isn't sincerely interested in the escort's actual experience. He just wants to hear the escort enjoys what he/she does so he won't have to feel guilty. Any escort who tells the truth about this "work" is generally told to shut up, go away, "get a job if you hate it so much you dumb whore," etc. I'm sure the gay scene isn't that much different from the straight one, except the male escorts at least have physical strength to match if not exceed their johns (given that most johns are older and less fit). Still, just because somebidy, male or female, enjoys having sex with men, doesn't mean they like it with ANY man, otherwise they wouldn't be charging for it.

by Anonymousreply 126February 15, 2017 7:48 PM

In 2004 I hired a former Falcon model (Nicholas Clay) for a night. I was only 22 and stuck in San Diego for two weeks. There were free magazines all over the place so I grabbed a few to read. In the back there was an ad for escorts and his was there so I hired him. I had a fantastic time.

by Anonymousreply 127February 15, 2017 8:31 PM

[R123] You're a curious one, aren't you? Are you articulate enough to be able to explain your unconventional views - which buck statistics in just about every city on earth?

Or did you try to do that already?

by Anonymousreply 128February 15, 2017 10:45 PM

Erna, you were asked a question at R115.

How many drachmas did you charge back in the day?

Was it hard to lay on the earth while it was still cooling?

by Anonymousreply 129February 15, 2017 10:47 PM

So what is the deal with publicly 'outing' your long-term escort?

Did the late George Michael make a big mistake outing his rent boy by passing him off as 'boyfriend' material in public for too many years?

by Anonymousreply 130February 15, 2017 10:49 PM

Once you get a client like George Michael taking you to the Maldives, you go beyond rent boy into sugar baby territory, or kept man if you like. For years Fadi was a guy with a rich boyfriend, not a rentboy.

by Anonymousreply 131February 15, 2017 11:01 PM

Agree [R131]. Whether that line is going to hold through the lengthy legal battle that will be contesting George Michael's will (and the 'will' of all those lovely relatives of his), however, remains to be seen.

Particularly if the so-called relationship had soured of late, as several seem to suggest. I cringed when one recently mouthed off 'he was never his real boyfriend'. Seemed a bit tasteless - even if long-term escorts/'kept' persons are not to your lifestyle liking.

by Anonymousreply 132February 15, 2017 11:15 PM

Has Fadi said he'll contest the will?

GM seemed to provide generously for everyone; I bet he left Fadi his London flat or something.

by Anonymousreply 133February 16, 2017 1:18 AM

No-one will ever hear the details of GM's will, but if Fadi has not been named specifically, he will need to contest in order to receive anything.

At that point, it will be interesting to see what fee he is asking for his future silence.

by Anonymousreply 134February 16, 2017 1:25 AM

If Fadi doesn't get a very decent amount he will already have negotiated a publishing deal to write about his life with George Michael. This kind of thing would sell millions in the UK. Obviously his English is poor but they could easily find someone to write it for him.

by Anonymousreply 135February 16, 2017 1:31 AM

I think if I could afford to pay an escort to fulfill every big brother fantasy I've ever had, I'd do it. I'm not talking about sex -- I just mean having a buddy.

No, you probably can't buy something like that, but it'd fun to go shopping.

by Anonymousreply 136February 16, 2017 1:39 AM

Most escorts are happy to do friend stuff or whatever you want as long as you pay them their hourly rate.

by Anonymousreply 137February 16, 2017 1:49 AM

Has anyone approached a hot guy at the gym about escorting? There's this super-hot disgustingly gorgeous trainer at my gym. He trains men and women, and I've observed him before super flirty with the guys. I've wondered if he escorts, but I can't get up the nerve to ask him. I would gladly be generous if he wanted to go out on a "date."

by Anonymousreply 138February 16, 2017 1:56 AM

If he already has a job as a trainer he might not escort. You'd be better off checking the local listings as if he escorts he might be there. I wouldn't expect an escort to have a full time job.

by Anonymousreply 139February 16, 2017 2:08 AM

What would be really funny is if he clocks you. With any luck in the head, where you obviously can't suffer injury.

by Anonymousreply 140February 16, 2017 2:09 AM

I've hired a few. I'm into enjoying their bodies. No anal, just feeling them up and giving them a hand job. One was like you're sure no fucking? Yes just hand job. He's like ok, whatever. The others were like knock yourself out, buddy it's your dime.

by Anonymousreply 141February 16, 2017 2:17 AM

R138. why on earth would you even consider approaching a stranger who is a trainer and ask if he escorts? that would not be a good idea and not sure where you thinking is that you would consider something like that. its very wrong

by Anonymousreply 142February 16, 2017 2:29 AM

R141, Robert Repulveda Jnr loves guys like you. Maybe you should get in touch. This is about all he'll ever agree to do and he has a great body.

by Anonymousreply 143February 16, 2017 2:43 AM

R136 Ugh! "Shoppers" are among the worst. Looking to buy a girlfriend (or in your case, a little "buddy"). Psh! They never want to pay for your time. Just offer to buy "gifts" (sexy clothes that turn them on and status items to show off that they own you), take you in their boat, let you stay in their house. Guys like this who end up with deviosu gold-diggers get exactly what they deserve IMO. Personally I never had the stomach for agreeing to any such arrangement with these "shopping" johns. I sense they have major control issues.

by Anonymousreply 144February 16, 2017 2:50 AM

R144 you nailed it. I shared how i have seen many hot escorts. There is a site where sugardads go to meet sugarpups. i told my younger friend about it and i was so surprised how the older men he met (like me) were so cheap they were using the site as a way to "date" and get sex for free " from young hotties. sort of saying lets "date" awhile. the hotter guys got wise to this cheap play, so i would always immediately say . generous at first meetings. lol but only for the real hot ones

by Anonymousreply 145February 16, 2017 2:56 AM

Adjusted for inflatia to present day dollars our donatias from generous gentlemen would have come to about $600/hour.

It eventually went into stocks and real estate.

Perhaps this is why we are financially independent today!

by Anonymousreply 146February 16, 2017 8:40 AM

There was a lot less competitia then!

by Anonymousreply 147February 16, 2017 8:42 AM

So current average rate is around $250 p/h?

by Anonymousreply 148February 16, 2017 10:43 AM

attractive guy will do nude massage for 200 and then add for extras, takes it to 300. the very good looking just charge 300. and the super hot get a bit more. There is a other world of bodyworship which i never understood thats where mostly straight body builders let you oil them up and worship them...why? i have no idea, i never understood this. seems like the person who is hiring must have really low self esteem, but those scenes usually start at $500 for actual bodybuilder...think arnolds world

by Anonymousreply 149February 16, 2017 3:47 PM

I, myself, am a nasty whore.

by Anonymousreply 150February 16, 2017 3:58 PM

r149, I'm into muscle worship. I used to hire a straight amateur bodybuilder who I met through a gay connection at my gym. The complex channels I needed to meet him are a story in itself. He had an amazing body and loved being worshipped. At first, he limited himself to letting me explore his muscles and massage him. As he became more comfortable with me, he let me explore a little more, wink wink. I don't have low self-esteem...I just get off on touching thick, dense muscle.

by Anonymousreply 151February 16, 2017 3:59 PM

r137 This is true, but remember they are on the clock from the minute they walk through your door. I was staying at a beachfront house while on vacation and hired one for an hour. He asked if could take pictures of the beach, ocean, etc. and then wanted to charge me for the first hour that he goofed off with his camera, talked to his friend on his iPhone, and ate my ice cream. I told him to forget it and paid him for the hour of sex and told him to get out.

by Anonymousreply 152February 16, 2017 4:05 PM

I like that guys who otherwise wouldn't make much money can leverage their bodies to make some cash, and save it up or use it for education. Wonderful free-market solution for younger men. For women, however, I feel kind of bad because they're more likely to be physically and psychologically exploited (usually)...

by Anonymousreply 153February 16, 2017 4:09 PM

R153. its a special person who can go into that lifestyle and not become a part of it. Alot of people involve drugs and alcohol in order to be able to sleep with people they are not attracted to. I think its similar to the porn industry . it attracts a sort of low level type person certainly not spiritual connection. my experience was people do not treat each other very well. the fantasy of the stripper putting her self through law school is very rare

by Anonymousreply 154February 16, 2017 5:29 PM

I had to LOL at the comment of the whore that says he only 'dates' guys he feels a connection with R114. A chemistry. And you old fools believe that.

Like he cares about chemistry. This is nothing more than a way out for him, without being blunt, to tell you you're so hideous, he can't stomach the thought of touching you. Or the old fools that will pay someone $300 for 'mutual mastrubation'?

You're very lonely old men. And you then allow yourselves to be blinded to reality. I have a straight brother that lost his house by being conned in a romance scam. Loneliness is an illness.

by Anonymousreply 155February 16, 2017 7:11 PM

Erna, you have lived such a rich and varied life.

Perhaps you should top it off tonight by dying in your sleep.

Painless for you, and then tomorrow will be so much more painless for all at DL.

by Anonymousreply 156February 16, 2017 7:16 PM

R152, that's odd, it's too bad you had that experience.

An hour's a long time for goofing off before business starts.

by Anonymousreply 157February 16, 2017 8:07 PM

[R155] That sound awful but, alas, all too common.

Which raises another topic. Both escorts and those who have hired, have you had bad experiences where you have felt your safety (or that of your property) was threatened?

by Anonymousreply 158February 16, 2017 8:46 PM

^ Yes.

by Anonymousreply 159February 16, 2017 8:51 PM

r155 "Loneliness is an illness."

No, it's part of the human condition.

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by Anonymousreply 160February 16, 2017 8:57 PM

I think loneliness is an illness, or can manifest as one.

Personally every stupid thing I've done in life traces back to being lonely.

by Anonymousreply 161February 16, 2017 9:01 PM

r157 No, it's actually par for the course with these guys. Did I mention he also showed up barefooted.

by Anonymousreply 162February 16, 2017 9:03 PM

You hire an escort for a reason. It's a contract. You tell what you want to do and he does it. You don't need to search around bars and clubs. I don't get hot guys I'd like to and I won't settle with guys I could. Why not pay and get it over with? Keep it simple.

by Anonymousreply 163February 16, 2017 9:07 PM

R161 me 2

I'm in a spiral now and I can't get out of it; ironically, not even an escort could cheer me up

by Anonymousreply 164February 16, 2017 9:15 PM

Definitely yes. I have hired str8 latin and black guys. Backpage is incredible for finding str8 dick, that has pounded me senseless. I've had hot straight Dads spank me like their teenage sons, then top the living hell out of me. Usually about 200. Worth every fucking dollar.

by Anonymousreply 165February 16, 2017 10:36 PM

The idea that escorts never tongue kiss is really outdated. They do and will; you just need to ask beforehand. Some won't but some are fine with it.

by Anonymousreply 166February 16, 2017 11:27 PM

This is the saddest thread I've read on here. Confirms every bad stereotype about gay men.

by Anonymousreply 167February 16, 2017 11:40 PM

R167 Lighten up! Whatever gay men are doing straight men are doing 10 fold with their mistresses, hookers, one night stands, creepy sexual come- ons as though they are entitled, and the list goes on. Men do very strange things because of sex. It's a fact of life.

by Anonymousreply 168February 17, 2017 12:11 AM

R155 has serious emotional issues. very invested in his anger over never getting laid . his posts are so revealing

by Anonymousreply 169February 17, 2017 12:22 AM

R168-- dude, it's not cause they're paying to have sex, it's all those comments about loneliness and getting taken advantage of and feeling like they'd missed out on life.

It's like drugs, right. Lots of people can do coke twice a year and be fine with it. Others, it quickly becomes an addiction.

This thread seems to have attracted the addicts.

by Anonymousreply 170February 17, 2017 12:28 AM

people like to have this doom and gloom about hiring escorts and people chasing after youth and hot youngins .....its because people live their lives throught television and movies. and ooh the sad ending. Real life is you learn how to balance things.

by Anonymousreply 171February 17, 2017 12:44 AM

R170 I wouldn't say that they are addicts - escorts are too expensive to hire all the time. It's a case of these men prefer to have champagne once in while instead of beer all the time. Ain't nothing with that. Occasionally experience the finer things in life, especially if it makes you feel good.

by Anonymousreply 172February 17, 2017 12:52 AM

I like to treat myself to a "happy" massage, that way if they are good at massage you can forgo the rest if there is no attraction. unfortunately really attractive massage men usually move quickly to escorting cause they get offers al lthe time and the price is much more so they figure why not make more money for less effort

by Anonymousreply 173February 17, 2017 12:57 AM

Dude, some of the guys posting on here are getting drunk on the champagne every night.

And regretting it in the AM

@R172

by Anonymousreply 174February 17, 2017 12:58 AM

whore prices haven't changed in 25, 30 years. good value.

by Anonymousreply 175February 17, 2017 1:04 AM

I think all the angry posters are jelly because they can't splash the coins on the good stuff. I'll be old one day and maybe it would be a choice to pay for someone. Why not?

by Anonymousreply 176February 17, 2017 1:05 AM

R175 you are correct. but one has to really do their research cause alot of the pictures are 30yrs old

by Anonymousreply 177February 17, 2017 1:06 AM

I dunno. In europe there are tons of appealing gigolos on planetromeo. many part-time too, not full time man whores.

by Anonymousreply 178February 17, 2017 1:08 AM

Just my experience. straight men are easier to woo with bank$$, they like it, they dont take it seriously they just go well, i dont kiss and how much do i get. now gay guys, say shit like, well, i am not a whore you know, i have another job and bla bla bla, they are sort of like women that way.

by Anonymousreply 179February 17, 2017 1:26 AM

[R179] Sounds like you have a fine understanding of women. Or maybe not you old fool.

by Anonymousreply 180February 17, 2017 1:42 AM

I did it a number of times when I was in my mid-twenties and just coming out. This was in the early 80s. Advocate Classifieds. I could not believe that you could sleep with actual Colt models if you paid them.

I was inexperienced so I never knew what should be discussed concerning a transaction. I just did what I wanted to do and they rolled with it. My favorites (ones I had repeat business with) were Ed Dinakos and Rod Kasner. Definite crush on Rod. I remember the first time someone told me he "didn't kiss" and I was surprised by that (and called it quits early - not so much fun for me.) In retrospect, the fact that they let me fuck them without really having any discussion about it is very surprising. Ah, youth.

The end came with scorching hot Rick Wolfmier. I couldn't believe that I had paid someone to give me crabs. That was it for me and soon afterward I learned that sex with someone you actually had affection for was a whole new exciting way to go.

by Anonymousreply 181February 17, 2017 3:16 AM

I wrote the post R125 about sex with Alec Powers. That was the only time I used an escort. Hardly an addiction.

by Anonymousreply 182February 17, 2017 4:46 AM

R166 If they don't kiss I won't hire them.

by Anonymousreply 183February 17, 2017 4:55 AM

I used to visit The Gaiety strip theatre in Times Square. I liked to merely watch the guys show off their boners. But one time, a dancer took to the stage who knocked my socks off. Muscled, Brazilian, and for the boner portion, he was hard as a rock. I waited afterward, greeted him in the lobby and asked if he was a Kristen Bjorn model. He was!

I asked if he escorted. He said we could have a quickie between shows, or a longer session after he was done stripping for the night, so we could "go all the way."

I went back later after the last round, about 11pm. He remembered me, took my arm and walked me to the Milford Plaza! (the commercial jingle rolled through my head). I'd gotten a chunk of money from a big job that week, and brought $200. He took me to a tiny hotel room and he let me kiss and lick him all over, suck his big hard uncut dick. He kept jacking my cock to try to get me to cum fast, but I didn't let him.

Then I went to town on his butt. He hadn't been rimmed like that in quite a while, it seemed, and my fingering and licking got him closer. He had an adorable smooth tight little hole, which he let me finger and slurp on.

After a lot of mmm-ing and moaning, he turned, aimed his dick and me and sprayed huge gobs of cum on my face. He then jacked me off. It was quite fun, almost an hour of hot sex.

He asked if I wanted to take a shower with him, but I said no. "I want to walk home with the scent and taste of your cum on me." He suggested I return again for some fucking. But I couldn't afford to splurge on another $200.

Years later, I found one of his photo spreads in Torso magazine: Alfonso Ribiero!

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by Anonymousreply 184February 17, 2017 6:27 AM

yeah, it's sad on some level to live this way and only have escort encounters; on the other hand job, it's better to have some experiences than nothing.

Everyone always tells me I'm a great guy and someone will be real lucky to have me blah blah

I have zero luck dating.

by Anonymousreply 185February 17, 2017 6:39 AM

Poor Erna contracted syphilitia long ago; she is now blind, hairless, and covered in scaly lesions. The only charity she accepts is Groupons for the Van Nuys Sizzler, so please be generous.

by Anonymousreply 186February 17, 2017 6:51 AM

r167 Oh, and straight men don't hire hookers or female escorts?

by Anonymousreply 187February 17, 2017 10:38 AM

R184 Hot story and very hot guy with delicious hole. Lucky you.

by Anonymousreply 188February 17, 2017 2:40 PM

r184 How many years ago did this happen? What would it cost in today's dollars ($300-$400 ?) and an all-nighter to boot.

by Anonymousreply 189February 17, 2017 2:45 PM

You don't pay them for sex. You pay them to leave.

by Anonymousreply 190February 17, 2017 6:13 PM

More please!

How often do male escorts have a pimp/work for an agency? Has anyone ever dealt with one being too forward e.g. ask them for more money, tell them that they're in love, ask them if they can move in... Also, do they worry much about vice cops, or are they too scattered/impulsive to care?

It's seems to be widely accepted that female escort agencies are run by the mafia and other shadowy figures---is this true?

Former lady escort poster, feel free to chime in here.

by Anonymousreply 191February 17, 2017 6:14 PM

r191 Philadelphia's "Premier Escort Agency" was definitely owned by the mob and very successful for years. They closed up shop a few years ago and the rumor was the owners were being charged with tax evasion. Frankly, I always thought it was because they had average looking escorts with average bodies.

by Anonymousreply 192February 17, 2017 7:02 PM

Thinking of seeing one tonight in LA.

by Anonymousreply 193February 17, 2017 7:07 PM

That's crazy! The mob mob? Did they ave a brick and mortar location? Did they take credit cards?

by Anonymousreply 194February 17, 2017 7:08 PM

r84, as you can see in r86's link, Tommy is available. He lives in San Diego, but travels to LA, Chicago and New York quite often. I'm considering taking a vacation to San Diego partly so I can schedule a session with him.

by Anonymousreply 195February 17, 2017 7:13 PM

r194 Yes, the mob mob, and they did take credit cards. The escorts would bring a little credit card machine with them to MANUALLY run your credit card.

by Anonymousreply 196February 17, 2017 7:13 PM

Premiere looked like it ran a good ship - the gay one, right? They were around for years. Never dealt directly with them, however.

by Anonymousreply 197February 17, 2017 7:15 PM

r197 That's the one. Their escorts weren't beautiful, but you knew they wouldn't rip you off or try and slit your throat (literally).

by Anonymousreply 198February 17, 2017 7:19 PM

Yeah, R198. I remember they'd get guys from out of town - this one guy from LA was amazing-looking (Latino with a huge one, ripped). I was in DC and wanted to see him so badly, was going to take the train up the Phily to see him but chickened out. Eventually I did see him, in LA.

by Anonymousreply 199February 17, 2017 7:21 PM

Love reading this stuff. The entire forum is fun to read.

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by Anonymousreply 200February 17, 2017 7:21 PM

I wish we had male brothels. At least it would seem safer and less threatening there.

by Anonymousreply 201February 17, 2017 7:23 PM

r201 Actually, there are male brothels in most major U.S. cities.

by Anonymousreply 202February 17, 2017 7:25 PM

That's a good question---there are illegal female brothels in the US. Are there any for men?

by Anonymousreply 203February 17, 2017 7:25 PM

R202, is the one in LA very secret? Is it only on weekends? Please don't joke and say it's Bryan S.'s house.

by Anonymousreply 204February 17, 2017 7:26 PM

R201 I've never heard of one.

by Anonymousreply 205February 17, 2017 7:30 PM

I've only heard of male brothels in Brazil, where they're quite popular.

by Anonymousreply 206February 17, 2017 7:32 PM

R206 Are you talking about the saunas? I think they're more like bathhouses than brothels.

The only place I've heard of with brothels is the Netherlands. And I think there's one in London.

by Anonymousreply 207February 17, 2017 7:34 PM

R207, you're right. Officially they're saunas in Brazil, but they're basically brothels. There are ones that specialize in offering escorts by the half hour.

by Anonymousreply 208February 17, 2017 7:38 PM

In the late 90s early 2000s I worked for an agency that took half my $300/hour. I was interviewed by a nice enough guy in a hotel lobby in SF (I recall two young gay guys were also interviewed that night). The questions were basically asking in a round about way if "you know what you're doing," then making me sign a contract releasing the agency from any liability in case I was arrested. All legal liability was on me. They sent me to horrible men, no screening whatsoever. They men paid me in cash or used their credit card in the phone before I arrived. I had to work on call, getting all dressed up to wait around and the booking bitches would finally call at 2 a.m. for me to go service some drunk/high asshole.

Around 2000-01 I got the nerve to advertise online independently (Eros Guide only covered SF back then) and screened my own calls, landing myself with nicer clients and keeping all my money. But it still sucked. The "escort review" community on the Internet acts like an insidious, mass pimp that keeps independent escort rates low and risks high (they're always pressuring for no condoms, tongue kissing, rimming, anal, etc. for as little money as possible, and of course you're competing with crack addicts for these lovely clients). Eventually I transitioned to being a pro domme and phone sex but those also sucked for different reasons. The whole sex industry sucks IMO. I basically hate men now and have very little to do with them romantically anymore since I k ow the truth of how they feel about women and most of them are just porn addicted at best and closet misogynists at worst.

by Anonymousreply 209February 17, 2017 7:43 PM

Please, no more stinkfish on this thread !

by Anonymousreply 210February 17, 2017 7:53 PM

R209. thanks for sharing. Yes all one has to do is read the book written by the heidie fleiss girls, i mean all those messed up celebrities like jack nicholsen and the horrible things they would do to women. just horrible things. charlie sheen , all of them, they are rich and famous but they are the worst people on the planet.

by Anonymousreply 211February 17, 2017 7:59 PM

Interesting, r209...Were the guys that the agency sent you to were worse than the ones who you found online? Just playing devil's advocate (and I'm a gay man, so what do I know), but do you think that you just ended up working for the wrong agency, and that in the early 2000's, respectable johns were less likely to book through a personal ad?

by Anonymousreply 212February 17, 2017 8:19 PM

What I want to know is who are the booking bitches at these agencies?

by Anonymousreply 213February 17, 2017 8:25 PM

r213 Actually, they're on the ball. They have to be. I spoken to two of them over the years: very professional, organized, and articulate.

by Anonymousreply 214February 17, 2017 8:34 PM

Yes R212, good point. By the early 2000s more people had begun finding services online but many still used the yellow pages to call an escort agency (like today, who uses the yellow pages anymore except old people?). At that time, the johns finding escorts online were just more tech savvy and educated, especially in the Bay Area. The women advertising online were less likely to be the street type as well. But by 2004-05 the masses were getting online and within a few years semi-literate pimps were posting ads for their drug-addicted teen runaway stock and most johns weren't flipping through the yellow pages or calling numbers from the back of the alternative weekly anymore. I got more and more calls from assholes and most of the people who called I never dared to see. Hourly rates have gone down from what I can tell. When you're competing on the same as platform with someone who will do anything for drugs that's what happens. By the time I "retired" I was only charging $200/hour and not entirely because I was older (mid 30s). Women in their 20s were charging that. Of course it was 2008-09. I've been out since the end of 2010. Maybe rates are back up, but I doubt it given what young women will do and show for nothing online these days.

by Anonymousreply 215February 17, 2017 8:38 PM

R189, it was in 1990. I was at peak post-twink hotness.

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by Anonymousreply 216February 17, 2017 8:44 PM

r216 You paid approximately $500 in 2017 money.

by Anonymousreply 217February 17, 2017 8:47 PM

I am in los angeles and have hired alot. I have stopped , well mostly because i dont think its a healthy thing to do . At least for me its not. Anyway. i was doing my research and i love to research and gather information and i would always see men that i wanted to meet and be with but alot of times they say couples only. so i decided to become a couple. at first i was pretty lame and it was expensive and i found out that the women who i would match with my "date"had to be hot and full girlfriend experience was very expensive like 700. but then a straight friend referred girls from la exotics who were like 400 . but i also was paying the guy so i started contacting the guys when they arrived, i would say she was held up or coming and i clearly said look you will be paid regardless (do i did not get killed) most were very cool. but a couple said sorry guy cant do it without a woman here , key is I STILL PAID THEM IN FULL, otherwise its a very dangerous situation. Anyway. i met some very attactive guys .. backpage, rentmen, craigs, eros when they had men . i actually am responsible for several guys starting to do guys escorting because later i would see them advertising for guys in addition to women.

by Anonymousreply 218February 17, 2017 8:55 PM

r218 You should start your own agency.

by Anonymousreply 219February 17, 2017 8:57 PM

I dont want to own an agency and manage people. especially people selling themselves. If it was very high end yes. like madam claude. lol but also here in los angeles its hard cause people here are cheap. probably due to the entertainment business. Alot of young things both male and female will go to dinner with some troll cause they are going to sit next to a movie star. lol I actually had a very beautiful friend he became a friend Rob Sager (deceased) and i sat there as he told a top agent to the stars."look i dont need to sit next to madonna, i need to make money. " the full of himself agent said "i dont pay people to hang out with me" Rob without missing a beat said, Then we are done here cause i dont hang out with middle aged men for free. lol, hilarious. Total Shut down

by Anonymousreply 220February 17, 2017 9:02 PM

^^^^Lol

Question, r220, former escort lady poster---how is it that the girls you researched in LA charged $700 an hour, but you (former escort lady poster) could only make $200? Is it because SF has an overabundance of female whores (I used to hear that, and always had a hard time believing it)?

by Anonymousreply 221February 18, 2017 1:40 AM

R221. I am R218. i am not former escort lady poster , I am old homo hirer. i paid 700 cause she was ex actress very hot argentinian girl. about 25yrs old. the woman who was 400 was latina who said she lost weight from her pictures but she was still chunky when she showed up. and less than 300 you are probably dealing with women who are not GFE girlfriend experience meaning they kiss and intercourse or they are doing drugs and need money fast . any woman showing up for less than 500 is not going to be hot

by Anonymousreply 222February 18, 2017 2:02 AM

"[R221]. I am [R218]. i am not former escort lady poster , I am old homo hirer. "

Dude, I know. I was talking to both of you.

by Anonymousreply 223February 18, 2017 2:06 AM

R223. ok. but i am datalounge elder gay . show some respect.. dont call me dude..

by Anonymousreply 224February 18, 2017 2:12 AM

I was not GFE (meaning no kissing, no bareback, no anal, etc.) nor of any porn or "actress" fame, and by the time I was down to $200 I was 35+ and it was 2008-10. Most average prostitutes do not get rich from it. It's usually to survive through job loss, bills, school, kids or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 225February 18, 2017 3:17 AM

Are any of you escorts angry with Robert Sepulveda for bringing your name into disrepute by stealing cashmere overcoats from the clients?

by Anonymousreply 226February 19, 2017 12:48 AM

This tinymeat tart, advertising herself in Barceloona, makes it clear in her ad that she does hardly anything: No kising, no oral, no bareback, no nothing!

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by Anonymousreply 227February 19, 2017 8:39 AM

This thread gave me the courage to hire an escort that was in my town (in the Midwest) for an hour session. He was 30 and half Turkish and Italian. Great tight body and a nice thick cock. He arrived in sweatpants and hard as a rock! I was so excited after only 15 mins I came, he said "you will come again", went right back to fucking, and I did (which was amazing). Best 400 I ever spent!

by Anonymousreply 228February 25, 2017 6:39 PM

R228 Will you hire him again?

by Anonymousreply 229February 25, 2017 6:47 PM

I'm wondering if it's possible for the escort to fall for a client, who's unavailable as a boyfriend/partner?

by Anonymousreply 230February 25, 2017 6:51 PM

I've hired a lot in NYC, and most experiences have been good to great with a few clunkers thrown in. Been hiring for about 7-8 years now and I almost have an addiction to it. I'm a very busy guy and it's just so much easier to hire and get what you want right away than date or even play games on Grindr or Scruff.

I'm under 40 and good looking, btw. I just love the convenience and always getting to choose what we do.

by Anonymousreply 231February 25, 2017 6:57 PM

R231, no judgement but total curiosity: have you caught anything from these guys? Beating the odds of anything seems low given their line of work. And yes I know you can catch something from Joe Average but exponentially an escort would seem higher likelihood. I have always wanted to but been reluctant because don't want to pay to get an STI.

by Anonymousreply 232February 25, 2017 7:56 PM

R232, no I have never caught anything from a single one of the numerous escorts I've hired over the years. I've also only had safe sex with them, and sometimes anal isn't even involved. I think having sex with escorts is probably safer than with a regular person. I genuinely believe escorts get tested more regularly because of their work and take better precautions than half of the guys who claim "tested and neg" you meet. Of course there are the escorts who will bareback with anyone, but that is clearly advertised and easily avoided.

by Anonymousreply 233February 25, 2017 8:21 PM

R231 again. Just thought of a few more things I wanted to add.

I've learned to become very assertive of what I'm looking for and expect to happen during an encounter. Don't be shy. I think escorts like someone upfront and don't want surprises, just like you don't want surprises with them.

I have turned guys away at the door who don't look like their pics and have stopped a session or two in the middle after a guy won't do something they promised. At first I would just go with the flow and continue on, but I've learn that when you're spending good money you should get what you want. If you have a weird fetish or expect lots of making out or whatever just let them know ahead of time and confirm it is something they are comfortable with. Agree on a price beforehand and don't let that change. There are guys who may try to say, sure I'll do that...for an extra $50. Never pay upfront.

All these things will ensure better experiences for you and the escort.

by Anonymousreply 234February 25, 2017 8:26 PM

R234, what would you do if an escort behaved like Robert Sepulveda and said there was no chemistry so he'd only give you a handjob but he'd still expect to be paid for his time?

by Anonymousreply 235February 25, 2017 9:17 PM

R235, I would not pay him. That's why it's so important to establish what is expected to happen, the price and the amount of time spent before meeting, preferably in text or email. If you establish that making out is very important to you and when the guy shows up he won't kiss then you can simply ask him to leave without paying a dime. You two had a contract, he broke a portion of it, and now it's null and void.

I once hired a guy who did look like his pics, but his personality was so off-putting that I wasn't feeling it with him it all. I knew it wasn't going to work and had to ask him to leave. Of course, in this situation he was prepared to live up to his end of the deal so I agreed to pay him half the fee, which he was fine with. That only has happened once in all these years though. Most guys are good at their jobs; they want you to have a good time and be a repeat client. I believe they would rather have a few "normal" regular arrangements where they at least know what they're in for and can build some trust as opposed to always having to track down new unknowns. The devil you know and all that.

by Anonymousreply 236February 25, 2017 11:57 PM

Thanks, R236/R231

I'm surprised Robert Sepulveda ever got work, because he wouldn't agree to anything beforehand; he always said 'wait and see if we have chemistry' and then walked out on a lot of guys he didn't consider super fit. This was all on reviews on various sites over the years.

by Anonymousreply 237February 26, 2017 12:10 AM

[quote]I'm wondering if it's possible for the escort to fall for a client, who's unavailable as a boyfriend/partner?

Well, technically, anything is possible but I would assume that the two more likely outcomes are the client falling for the escort or the escort falling for the client's money.

by Anonymousreply 238February 26, 2017 12:10 AM

R237, I read that during the time of his reality show. Honestly, I blame the clients and not Robert. If someone won't agree to things then they need to walk away from the situation immediately. You need that written/verbal "contract" in place before meeting. It's a major red flag when escorts won't agree to or veto something outright. (It's fine if they don't want to do something; be upfront about it and let me decide if it's still worth it to meet up with you.)

If the verbal contract is "let's wait and see if we have chemistry" then you are agreeing to letting him deny you activities at his discretion!

by Anonymousreply 239February 26, 2017 12:20 AM

[quote] Best 400 I ever spent

R228, you overpaid. No male escort charges $400, especially in the midwest.

by Anonymousreply 240February 26, 2017 12:38 AM

[quote]You two had a contract, he broke a portion of it, and now it's null and void.

Yeah, good luck enforcing that.

by Anonymousreply 241February 26, 2017 12:46 AM

It's actually very easy to enforce. What's he going to do? Go to the police and say he wasn't paid his escorting fee?

by Anonymousreply 242February 26, 2017 12:51 AM

And what are YOU going to do when he beats you up or causes a scene? Call the police and say you hired a hooker?

by Anonymousreply 243February 26, 2017 1:40 AM

If they risked assault or making a scene a scathing review would ruin their entire business.

If you read the reviews where Robert refused to do things most of the men did not pay in full, or at all and did so without incident.

Reviews are pretty powerful in the escort world. A bad review or two will make me avoid a guy no matter what he looks like or is down for.

If someone did make a scene I would ask them why they lied when we set up the meeting. Why weren't they upfront and honest then? Either perform as promised or leave.

This is their livelihood at stake. Escorts don't want to mess that up.

by Anonymousreply 244February 26, 2017 1:49 AM

I'd like to hire one, but as I'm disabled and not in very good shape, I don't think I could handle getting rejected.

by Anonymousreply 245February 26, 2017 1:49 AM

R220, yes that story is hilarious, but isn't that escort middle-aged now? Wouldn't sitting next to Madonna have made a great story now that his r her charms have faded in comparison to younger flesh?

by Anonymousreply 246February 26, 2017 3:37 AM

R245, if you advise them ahead of time a good escort will happily take your money. I hate to be so blunt, but you probably won't be a "threat" to them.

by Anonymousreply 247February 26, 2017 3:40 AM

R231's subsequent comment "I think having sex with escorts is probably safer than with a regular person." is 100% spot-on. I detailed my porn star fantasy list in r72, and though I would not think of hiring anyone now, the every day men I meet on Grindr, whether in sophisticated apartments while their wife is away with the kids or basement dumps in immigrant-rich Sunset Park are just NOT as clean and hygienic as the porn stars.

I meas nure I am not paying them and yes in theory I can talk with them if I really cared, but it really annoys me when I go to rim a guy ..........and there is an odor. Or when I want to lick their feet - and they are course and not properly lotioned.

What are you going to do - I guess one get what you pay for, lol.

by Anonymousreply 248February 26, 2017 3:52 AM

R244 You are assuming that your escort is a good businessperson and not some half-crazed meth addict.

by Anonymousreply 249February 26, 2017 5:06 AM

It's not being a threat in any way, r247. It's getting into bed and being told that he can't deal with the scars.

by Anonymousreply 250February 26, 2017 1:05 PM

R250, I'm sorry. I hope you find someone who can give you some fun in life.

by Anonymousreply 251February 26, 2017 4:23 PM

R248/R72

Might I suggest that at your age you are not getting the best of what Grindr has to offer. And that perhaps you are getting men who don't normally engage in gay sex and who just want something quick-- basically a Service Bottom to get them off.

A guy who is thrilled at how lucky he is to have landed someone as hot as you is going to take the time to shave and shower.

Though given what you are looking for and what you're working with, I agree that escorts make the most sense.

by Anonymousreply 252February 26, 2017 4:33 PM

All escorts have to be tops, right? Since there are so many Service Bottoms who give it away for free.

by Anonymousreply 253February 26, 2017 4:55 PM

I dunno about that. There must be boyish paid bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 254February 26, 2017 5:48 PM

Ditto R253 - I think there must be plenty of guys who'd like to say "I banged Brandon from Sean Cody" and pay for the privilege.

(Though he is adamantly "not a (SIC) prostatut")

by Anonymousreply 255February 26, 2017 5:53 PM

Plenty of bottoms, many of them straight. If they offer anal and they're straight, it's probably more often than not that they bottom, because it's a relief to them not to have to get it up, though literally something of a pain in the ass to have to bottom.

by Anonymousreply 256February 26, 2017 5:55 PM

Does dirk caber escort? I'm a classical pianist like he is would love to watch him play nude (among other things)

by Anonymousreply 257February 26, 2017 7:14 PM

I'm neither a top nor a bottom, but if I were going to hire someone, I'd probably avoid someone who was "top only," because they'd probably be more likely to be "gay for pay" and/or unwilling to do a lot of other stuff (kiss, oral, etc.)

by Anonymousreply 258February 26, 2017 9:08 PM

I read some of Robert Repulveda's reviews and some clients seemed to get a kick out of hiring him and hoping they'd be hot enough to meet his standards and get some decent sex. There was some bragging going on.

by Anonymousreply 259February 26, 2017 11:55 PM

Sorry but it sounds like most escorts are willing to do anything with anyone for the right price and guys like that are best avoided.

by Anonymousreply 260February 27, 2017 12:46 AM

[quote]I read some of Robert Repulveda's reviews and some clients seemed to get a kick out of hiring him and hoping they'd be hot enough to meet his standards and get some decent sex. There was some bragging going on.

probably people were blinded by the prmoise of 10"

by Anonymousreply 261February 27, 2017 12:56 AM

Sadly it was no more than a promise as Repulveda is a big old bottom.

by Anonymousreply 262March 1, 2017 4:35 AM

Once saw Mason Wyler in Houston. He sucked my dick, swallowed. Didn't go further. Thankful about that looking back.

Hired a few of the sean cody guys. some were decent tops, but mostly they were stand and model

Tristan Baldwin once. A pain in the ass to schedule. Roided out looking, bad skin, receding hairline.

Talvin Demachio. Hot, compact, muscular. Beautiful skin.

David Wichman (davidSF). Was cute when I first saw him in SF. Got a little belly. Started asking to fuck bareback. Nope.

by Anonymousreply 263March 23, 2017 5:28 PM

Why would you let Mason Wyler anywhere near you?! R263

by Anonymousreply 264March 23, 2017 5:31 PM

Who's had Andy Taylor?

by Anonymousreply 265March 23, 2017 5:38 PM

I'd be curious to know:

Percentage-wise, are there more escorts who don't do/haven't do video work than porn stars who don't escort?

by Anonymousreply 266March 23, 2017 5:39 PM

[quote]Who's had Andy Taylor?

Well, duh.

by Anonymousreply 267March 23, 2017 5:39 PM

Isn't hiring an escort like hiring an actor? he's just acting like he likes you. Doesn't that get in the way of enjoying the hour?

by Anonymousreply 268March 23, 2017 7:14 PM

If I hired a hoowah and he had lotioned feet, I'd make him leave his socks on. I can't believe some of you Priscillas.

by Anonymousreply 269March 23, 2017 8:48 PM

r79 Seriously, who would pay good money for this queen with the skunk hair.

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by Anonymousreply 270March 23, 2017 8:54 PM

[quote]Hired a few of the sean cody guys. some were decent tops, but mostly they were stand and model

No names?

by Anonymousreply 271March 23, 2017 8:55 PM

I work near a hotel in NYC that I guess a lot of foreign escorts stay in. They're always on Grindr. Two weeks ago I was horny and just wanted to get some play and it was slow at work so I sucked off an Italian guy with a massive dick for money. I think he does porn, his photos definitely looked like they were off a porn cover, but he wouldn't tell me for who he worked. He also didn't speak much English. It was OK, but I kinda didn't have the money to spend and wish I hadn't done it; although it was FAR cheaper than what I've seen on professional escort ads.

by Anonymousreply 272March 23, 2017 9:03 PM

I want to experience a divoone etalon TTBM de Niger escort who's in my neck of the woods this week. Still, in principal, I know to resist a recourse to such "social workers" at this stage of my life and this reality of my finances.

by Anonymousreply 273March 23, 2017 9:13 PM

My play with Mason was long before he came up HIV+. Back then, he was just a slut. Not a diseased slut.

The SC guys weren't the headliners. Not worth mentioning really. All duds in the sack.

Had a couple of nice visits with Scott Adler (LA). He ended up in jail a few times for selling meth and never went back to hooking.

by Anonymousreply 274March 23, 2017 9:16 PM

[quote] if I were going to hire someone, I'd probably avoid someone who was "top only," because they'd probably be more likely to be "gay for pay" and/or unwilling to do a lot of other stuff (kiss, oral, etc.)

R258, sometimes it's just the opposite. A truly "straight" guy would have difficulty getting hard to be able to top someone. Whereas a straight guy could easily bottom and just lie there and let the other guy to all the work.

by Anonymousreply 275March 24, 2017 1:00 AM

Killian James- Once was enough. He was higher than a kite and had far too big of an ego for what he is

by Anonymousreply 276March 24, 2017 9:07 PM

'Isn't hiring an escort like hiring an actor? he's just acting like he likes you. Doesn't that get in the way of enjoying the hour'

No, R268, why should it? If he acted as if he didn't like you, that would sure get in the way of enjoying the hour. Robert Repuveda Jnr does act as if he hates you and still demands to be paid.

by Anonymousreply 277March 24, 2017 9:20 PM

R268, you have to pretend he's there because he wants to be, get lost in the moment and just enjoy.

by Anonymousreply 278March 25, 2017 2:12 AM

A 'generou$ gentleman' plans to visit us tonight.

by Anonymousreply 279March 25, 2017 10:32 AM

I personally never have paid for a male, female, or trans escort/hooker. I have a much older gay friend who will sometimes pay for a male escort as he said it is a matter of age.

by Anonymousreply 280November 25, 2019 6:23 PM
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