How can I make myself masculine? Is it even possible?

Just be yourself.

r1

So what do you do when everyone's looking for masc/straight guys?

Either you got it, or you don't...

OP, you can change your voice, it just takes practice.

Stop shaving, waxing, dying everything, stay in shape but don't obsess about it like, "I couldn't possibly eat that it's 168 calories!"

Just be yourself and don't try so hard. Be nice and affectionate and a good kisser and good in bed. The other stuff none of it really matters or you are with the wrong guy.

I'm one of those masculine guys and I don't really know what to tell you, OP. I've observed a lot of guys get queenier when they come out as a way of flying their colors and then it becomes a habit. But then I've seen little boys who were already stereotypically gay so maybe it's an ingrained thing.

I could say, don't swing your hips when you walk, don't use yourhands so much when you talk, watch sports, listen to country western instead of the usual gay divas, dress for comfort and not fashion. But those are things that have to come natural, not as an act and if they don't feel right they won't look right.

I have noticed though that there's a hell of a lot of straight male bashing going both on this site and in the gay community in general that strikes me as being basically defensive, guys lashing out a group they feel has rejected them, family experiences etc. Maybe it's time to take a look at how you feel about being a man and men in general. Gay men have been told they're not real men for so long i think a lot of them take it to heart and turn around and reject masculinity in reaction, but masculinity is what makes a man attractive.

I also think a lot of them star taking on a feminine personality as a default, which isn't attractive, and they kind of know it and that's behind a lot of the swipes at women I keep seeing here.

I don't know how old you are but it could be really ingrained by now. My only suggestion is going to sound weird but only listen to music with male singers for a while. It doesn't have to be CW or death metal, but get the women's voices outbid your head. You can't go wrong with Nat King Cole or Sinatra.

^^^^OUT OF your head.

Fucking phone.

Hang out with straight guys. It will rub off

If you have a big dick, wear tight pants and show it off.

Grow a porn stache, OP.

OP, you need to borrow the self-help tape that Kevin Kline had in "In and Out."

Your results may vary...

Go on YouTube . There's lots of videos on how to change your voice , deepen it, etc . ..

Buy your clothes and shoes from Sportman's Warehouse or any other outdoorsy place that sells camping gear and the like .

Then grow a goatee. .

No way that R1 is a top OR that R6 is masculine. Masculine guys don't write walls of text.

R13 = Peggy Hill

Penis. XY chromosones. That's enough for me.

There was a short-lived tv series called 'Straight Plan for the Gay Man' where they addressed this issue, trying to make a gay man butch enough to pass as straight. If you could get hold of this, you'd learn a few things.

Stop eating tofu, eating from BPA lined cans or plastics and get in touch with your masculine side. Ultimately however, accept who you are being something else with exhaust you and others will sense this inauthenticity. A huge turnoff.

R13 and you know what masculine guys do or don't do how exactly?

Jeez you're almost as bad as any straight ignorant homophobe asshole. Even the length of a forum post somehow correlates to masculinity and femininity. Amazing!

Knitting R13 into scarf.

Try watching youtube videos for FTMs.

Seriously, see a speech pathologist if it bothers you that much. Not that there is anything pathological about gay voice.

Start chewing tobacco and spitting.....and no quiche....

Go to a sports bar, shoot hoops with the bros

I like nelly tops.

Stop listening to your old Mary Had a Little Lamb wax cylinders.

Butch it up, Mary!

Do you have any athletic ability?

Buy a baseball cap of a recognizable MLB team and wear it backwards. It'll butch you up by at least 5%!

Hang out with mainstream dudes. It's amazing how you subconsciously start emulating them

[quote] Penis. XY chromosones. That's enough for me.

The crystallization of all the anti-trans shit on this board. Insecure gay men whose only reassurance (that they crave so desperately!) that they’re really “men” is those two little letters.

Not quite the revolutionaries they think they are. How regressive. Glad to have had better gay role models than so many of the sad queens on this board.

Also, oh dear. :)

R6,

I almost didn’t read your whole post, but am I glad I did!

[quote] I don't know how old you are but it could be really ingrained by now. My only suggestion is going to sound weird but only listen to music with male singers for a while. It doesn't have to be CW or death metal, but get the women's voices outbid your head. You can't go wrong with Nat King Cole or Sinatra.

This is some legit silly shit. Although, of course, your entire post is. It all reads like something out of Cosmo. So fucking sad and, dare I say, girlish- the need to impress, the need to be liked.

Not saying effeminacy in men is objectively wrong, but I notice effeminate guys tend to hang with other effeminate men and Women and have very few of any close masculine male friends. I have witnessed effeminate evolve into more masculine men As they hang in with more mainstream men. Socialization is a factor

Hello Laith! @ R30

You should join a sports team. Someone asked if you had any sports ability upthread, there was no response.

Softball, basketball, soccer and even tennis leagues if you have any kind of ability would be good to joing.

Bowling, flag football or even ultimate frisbee are also okay. Just get that testerone up when you are being active and it should help.

Don't listen to female music o

Watch Outlander and learn.

OP, did you hang out with a lot of girls in high school? You may have subconsciously picked up their speech patterns and vocal quality. It's hard to deprogram that sort of thing, but not impossible. Women speak with a more sing songy pattern and a lot of gay men who sound effeminate use that same speech pattern. You may want to consult with a speech pathologist.

I imagine OP like this.

Wear you shirt halfway unbuttoned with a gold chain and large gold medallion .....

Wear a belly tank and a pair of blue short shorts.

Here, OP.

Wear blue Caftans and skull earrings.

Make sure your butt plug is a solid dark color and not bedazzled.

Even tops want masculine bottoms.

If you don't have masculine facial features or a muscular body, your only chance is to get tattoos. Not lame shit like stars or angel wings, but a sleeve that has a punk aesthetic.

People are only going to look at your behavior after you pass the looks test.

Honestly relationships aren't for everyone. Some people will just not be found attractive for whatever reason. Not handsome enough, too fat, too skinny, too short, wrong race, too stupid, too smart, not rich. Put in a little effort but not let your world revolve around this.

You might be one of those people who will never find people who love you the way you are. And that's ok. Only you can love yourself in the end. Love other things and activities.

r41, op can't be that nelly.

OP.

Here's a good place to start, pussy boy.

Say dude and bro a lot

Watch and learn....

And don't get riled when someone disses Barbra or Judy like R31.

Listen to hip hop

Or country western.

And get rid of your skinny jeans. They make you look like you're wearing "jeggings."

Get rid of your cat if you have one, nothing is less masculine.

Fart a lot.

Say fuck and shit a lot.

Cross your legs the right way, not the sissy way.

Learn to throw a baseball overhand.

Eat a lot of meat junk food.

If you smoke, don't hold the cigarette at the tips of your fingers.

Hold the fucking glass with ALL your fingers.

Watch the way a gorilla walks, then imitate.

Listen to how a gorilla talks, then imitate.

This has to rank as one of the funnies DL threads ever-- a pack o' prisspots trying to come up with ways to be more "masculine."

Are you all worried Mike Pence is going to come and try and turn you into Caitlyns?

I suspect the bastard would if he could.

And then who would bottom for us?

Make masculine friends and emulate them

My ex-bf is rather effeminate, but he's very desirable, by all sorts of guys, because he's humble and patient, but also very calm and confident. He works in social services, and sometimes has to be rather firm with some of his more difficult clients, but he knows just how to do it gently (but still, firmly). I tend to think of myself as being rather effeminate, too, but then I'm surprised that people I've known for years (mainly co-workers) had no idea I was gay until some conversation prompted me to out myself. When I was a teenager, being gay was a lot tougher, and I also found out I was working class, too, so I worked on developing my voice to try to eliminate the speech patterns I had picked up, of which I hadn't previously been aware. But that was a long time ago, and I no longer have to make any effort. My flat, Midwestern twang sometimes comes out when I'm really pissed off, though. Anyway, I remember watching Patrick Stewart in 'I, Claudius', and trying to make my voice sound like his.

Don't listen to female music or watch chick flicks or tv shows. Listen to hip hop or Alt rock.

Hang out with mainstream masculine bros.

Go to the gym. Take acting lessons. Acting will help you develop the personae you want to project. You will probably find bottoms in the theater,

Be yourself honey. Being inauthentic is obvious. Btw: keep your cat.

Oh, I forgot., Make a lot of money. Money often encourages people to spread their legs.

Talk. Very. Slow., when you walk, imagine that there are weights on your arms and legs.

Grow up and be yourself.

Play basketball, shoot hoops with the fellas . Helps develop swag

Emulate a lesbian.

Say "sup" and "bro" w lot. No drag queen or stereotypical gay guy terms and language

Poor OP is probably too straight-adjacent to know which boundaries he's crossing.

Honey, make friends with a different social class and ethnicity - black, latino, blatino, or italian. The differences will be easier to identify and emulate than Biff, Thad, and Punch at the office.

FREQUEnt sports bars

Barbecue

Shoot hoops with the bros

Ya can't, Blanche, ya CAN'T!

See R56.

Hhgfd

In the West, to be masculine means 1) not be feminine, 2) being successful, 3) not appearing weak/small, & 4) being adventurous/risky. Number one is most important to being masculine and usually means rejecting things associated With women, which often leads to misogyny