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Shelley Long or Kirstie Alley?

That is, Diane Chambers or Rebecca Howe?

Don't hold back.

by Anonymousreply 36November 5, 2019 12:24 PM

I was catching up on the series Cheers on netflix a while back and I will admit that this show really holds up. The character of Diane Chambers was better. I could not wait to get home and put on a couple of episodes. I finished the Shelly Long episodes and stated the Rebecca ones. Honestly when in first run, I liked Rebecca more because I started watching towards the end of Shelly Long trough out the end of the show. I liked Kristie Alley's performance as Rebecca but after the first season, she got a little bit different and too silly with Robin. I liked when she was hot for Mr. Drake.

Both good acting wise, but Diane was a stronger character. Better written. Still a great show.

by Anonymousreply 1December 3, 2016 1:41 AM

Jesus. What a choice.

by Anonymousreply 2December 3, 2016 1:41 AM

Long is just brilliant in the first season of Cheers. The episode where she is in the Miss Boston Bar Maid contest is just perfect and she is hysterical in it.

by Anonymousreply 3December 3, 2016 1:43 AM

Kirstie gave me the big one every night.

by Anonymousreply 4December 3, 2016 1:48 AM

Loved Shelley Long. Never cared for the show after she left.

by Anonymousreply 5December 3, 2016 1:50 AM

I voted Shelly but if Kristie was a Scientology bot who voted for Trump I would have given it to her.

by Anonymousreply 6December 3, 2016 2:04 AM

None of the above.

by Anonymousreply 7December 3, 2016 2:04 AM

Kirstie Alley. Wonderful comic timing. Shelley Long started off strong but became insufferable as the seasons went on.

by Anonymousreply 8December 3, 2016 2:08 AM

Both Shelley and Kirstie were great, but different.

by Anonymousreply 9December 3, 2016 2:15 AM

"Ask her for her I D. Better yet, ask her to spell I D."

- Diane to Carla, about one of Sam's young bimbos.

by Anonymousreply 10December 3, 2016 2:20 AM

Bebe Neuwirth > Both

by Anonymousreply 11December 3, 2016 2:24 AM

Carla- "If this place is so great , why can't they come up with a better name than "the Café?"

Diane- "Oh, silly Carla. Everybody knows that a simple name denotes the very best in taste."

Norm- "You're right about that Diane. My favorite place is called "EAT" out on the highway near my home."

by Anonymousreply 12December 3, 2016 2:25 AM

Lafayette we are here!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 13December 3, 2016 2:28 AM

Rebecca Chambers all day long, bitch had swag.

by Anonymousreply 14December 3, 2016 2:31 AM

Fuck that crazy, Scientologist bitch!

by Anonymousreply 15December 3, 2016 2:31 AM

Diane's breakup scene with Sam at the end of the second season still amazes me every time I see it. It shifts so effortlessly from humor to tragedy, like some demented collaboration between Edward Albee and zpreston Sturges. Danson is good in it, but it's really Long's performance that sells it.

Looking back on both "Cheers" and "Frasier," I think I prefer Neuwirth in the spinoff. I think the "Frasier" writers knew better how to handle the character, plus late "Cheers" was more slapstick which wasn't as suited to Lilith as the dry humor on "Frasier."

As for Alley, I was never that fond of her or Rebecca, but still adore her performance in the episode where Frasier's mentor hits on her.

by Anonymousreply 16December 3, 2016 2:34 AM

Shelley is a true Datalounger.

by Anonymousreply 17December 3, 2016 11:44 AM

Shelley.

by Anonymousreply 18November 3, 2019 4:42 AM

Shelley wins. She had some good movies too. Outrageous Fortune, Hello Again, Troop Beverly Hills, Brady Bunch, etc.. Kristie Fatass Allie cannot compare to Shelley.

by Anonymousreply 19November 3, 2019 4:50 AM

The writers created Diane but it took Long to realize the character and maintain it. Perfect combination, so rare.

by Anonymousreply 20November 3, 2019 4:55 AM

I prefer the Shelley Long seasons. I know it's unpopular, but I also prefer Woody to Coach.

by Anonymousreply 21November 3, 2019 5:18 AM

Lost all interest after Shelley left (it seemed like the writing got bad all around).

by Anonymousreply 22November 3, 2019 5:41 AM

Diane all the way. Her chemistry with Sam was unmatched. However, I noticed in reruns they flipped the dynamic with Sam in the last couple of seasons she was on. The gang could be downright mean to Diane and Sam would join in. I liked the earlier seasons where Sam respected her and put her up on a bit of a pedestal, in the later seasons it seemed like he mocked her most of the time, even when they reunited. I guess the dislike of Shelly Long had something to do with the shift in writing.

by Anonymousreply 23November 3, 2019 5:51 AM

I liked Rebecca...even though i’m more of a Diane.

by Anonymousreply 24November 3, 2019 5:16 AM

They both won Lead Actress Emmys.

by Anonymousreply 25November 3, 2019 2:19 PM

Kirstie Alley was remarkably beautiful, and she seemed so tall....

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by Anonymousreply 26November 3, 2019 4:38 PM

Shelley is tall AND Long!

by Anonymousreply 27November 3, 2019 7:27 PM

Haha.

It's interesting that Shelley is actually 5'6" and Kirstie is only 5'7"....but both read as much closer to the opposite ends of the scale.

by Anonymousreply 28November 3, 2019 7:32 PM

Shelley Long but only the first couple seasons. It took me a long time to like Kirstie and the whole subplot with her boss was just tiresome. I always liked it when they had Lillith--you knew there'd be some great wprdplay.

by Anonymousreply 29November 3, 2019 7:51 PM

Bebe Neuwirth (Lillith) was actually better-looking than both Shelley Long and Kirstie Alley. IMO.

by Anonymousreply 30November 3, 2019 7:56 PM

What about me, Gang at Cheers?

by Anonymousreply 31November 3, 2019 8:56 PM

Kirsties character took a 180 from how she started. She was supposed to be the Alexis Carrington of the bar but then they thought she was funnier as a neurotic loser like the rest of the barflies.

Both were gifted physical commediennes.

by Anonymousreply 32November 4, 2019 2:32 PM

I think they changed Rebecca because the stern boss wouldn't have worked long term. She would have always been on the outside looking in. They had to make her part of the gang. Sam was dumbed down a lot in the shows later years.

by Anonymousreply 33November 4, 2019 3:17 PM

I honestly can’t pick. Shelley Long had such incredible chemistry with Ted Danson and delivered her pretentious, desperate-woman lines with such aplomb. She was so fantastically irritating. Kirstie Alley was excellent as a trying too hard loser who was too trashy to ever win at life. I still love the episode where she gets dumped and walks around throwing drinks in customers’ faces. Her delivery is perfect.

by Anonymousreply 34November 4, 2019 3:26 PM

Nobody has mentioned Carla at all.

by Anonymousreply 35November 4, 2019 4:23 PM

I didn't like how kirstie kind of trashed Shelley when she replaced her.

by Anonymousreply 36November 5, 2019 12:24 PM
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