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How did Allen Carr turn Russell Todd and Howard McGillin GAY?

In the early 80s both Russell Todd and Howard McGillin were straight men married to women. In fact both men told Allen Carr to his face they were


But after working with Allen Carr in the film "Where The Boys Are '84" both men eventually left their wives and embraced being out and gay.

So how did Allen Carr turn both these men gay?

by Anonymousreply 74March 12, 2019 1:47 AM

Allan Carr.

by Anonymousreply 1November 24, 2016 9:15 PM


by Anonymousreply 2November 24, 2016 9:30 PM

How did I not know that Another World's Russell Todd was in Where the Boys Are '84!!??

by Anonymousreply 3November 24, 2016 9:34 PM

Anyone know anything about Russell?

by Anonymousreply 4November 24, 2016 10:15 PM

Earrings. Caftans.

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by Anonymousreply 5November 24, 2016 11:08 PM

anyone else?

by Anonymousreply 6November 26, 2016 2:38 PM

[quote]So how did Allen Carr turn both these men gay?

Ask Bruce Jenner.

by Anonymousreply 7November 26, 2016 2:49 PM

I want to blow Russell Todd. He's fucken hot!

by Anonymousreply 8November 26, 2016 3:03 PM

[quote] I want to blow Russell Todd. He's fucken hot!

So did Allen Carr, hence hiring him for Where The Boys Are '84. However he never made it with Russell. But how did he turn Russell gay after the movie was completed? He was straight and married PRIOR to meeting Allen Carr

by Anonymousreply 9November 26, 2016 3:05 PM

anyone else?

by Anonymousreply 10November 28, 2016 10:46 PM

I don't think you can "turn" someone gay. Either it's in them or it's not. But you can help them to accept it rather than deny it.

by Anonymousreply 11November 28, 2016 10:49 PM

R11 both men were MARRIED to Women and told Allen Carr they are STRAIGHT.

Where is the confusion?

by Anonymousreply 12November 28, 2016 11:00 PM

I've never heard that Howard McGillen is gay. How do you know?

by Anonymousreply 13November 28, 2016 11:17 PM

They were hypnotized into gayness by Alan's psychedelic caftan and earrings.

by Anonymousreply 14November 28, 2016 11:18 PM

Howard McGillin married his partner in 2013

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by Anonymousreply 15November 28, 2016 11:22 PM

Fairy dust, obviously. Duh.

by Anonymousreply 16November 28, 2016 11:23 PM

Does Howard give blowjobs to his husband?

by Anonymousreply 17November 28, 2016 11:27 PM

Howard discussed his struggle with his sexuality and his decision to come out in an interview with "Backstage" magazine in 2003.

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by Anonymousreply 18November 29, 2016 12:06 AM

Thanks for that, R18!

by Anonymousreply 19November 29, 2016 12:29 AM

Howard McGillin is still handsome, but Lordy, he was soooooo cute when he was young.

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by Anonymousreply 20November 29, 2016 1:10 AM

It wasn't Allen, OP. I have two words for you:

Lorna Luft.

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by Anonymousreply 21November 29, 2016 1:14 AM

Still hot

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by Anonymousreply 22November 29, 2016 1:15 AM

R20 And he's 6' 4".

by Anonymousreply 23November 29, 2016 1:30 AM

we still don't know how he turned them gay

by Anonymousreply 24November 30, 2016 3:54 PM

He promised them roles in Grease 3. And when they squealed with delight that they may be working with John Travolta, Allan Carr *knew* he could turn them like a brown grilled cheese sandwich.

by Anonymousreply 25November 30, 2016 4:32 PM

They were both gay. Allen had nothing to do with 'turning' them. Don't be so stupid OP.

by Anonymousreply 26November 30, 2016 4:33 PM

R26 when they first met Allen Carr they were


And told Allen Carr they were both STRAIGHT to their face.

Now years later they are out and proud

So explain that.

by Anonymousreply 27November 30, 2016 4:35 PM

I'm as gay as a Christmas card, but I'd tell Allen Carr I was straight just so he wouldn't be knocking on my hotel door at 3:00 am.

by Anonymousreply 28November 30, 2016 4:39 PM

Yeah but R28 were you married to a WOMAN as well?

by Anonymousreply 29November 30, 2016 4:40 PM

[quote]Yeah but [R28] were you married to a WOMAN as well?

Were the women Citizenship Seekers?

by Anonymousreply 30November 30, 2016 4:43 PM

R30 NO they weren't. In fact Russell Todd wife was his high school sweetheart

by Anonymousreply 31November 30, 2016 4:45 PM

Nobody 'turns gay'

by Anonymousreply 32November 30, 2016 4:48 PM

How come nothing online mentions Todd having a wife?

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by Anonymousreply 33November 30, 2016 4:48 PM

[quote] How come nothing online mentions Todd having a wife?

From 1990

"Happily wed for five years to his high school sweetheart, Kim, a schoolteacher, Russell Todd's love life is the very antithesis of his loser-in-love TV alter ego."

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by Anonymousreply 34November 30, 2016 4:51 PM

They were gay. They said they were straight and they married women but they were gay. OK?

by Anonymousreply 35November 30, 2016 7:41 PM

You don't 'turn gay'

by Anonymousreply 36November 30, 2016 7:51 PM

Yes, you can.

by Anonymousreply 37December 2, 2016 3:23 PM

They both said they were STRAIGHT!

by Anonymousreply 38December 2, 2016 7:37 PM

They wouldn't lie.

by Anonymousreply 39December 2, 2016 10:19 PM

I had to look very closely at that picture of Todd. Body still looks great ........... the grey hair is nice and the smile and eyes are the same.

Haven't seen anything indicting he is gay ? Link ??

Apparently he's got an agency now that books cameramen.

OP ---- You understand there could be a laundry list of men who were MARRIED and 'STRAIGH' and later came out as GAY, right ??

by Anonymousreply 40December 2, 2016 10:53 PM

Russell's not gay. He just sucks cock.

by Anonymousreply 41December 3, 2016 9:16 AM

Same here.

by Anonymousreply 42December 5, 2016 7:47 PM

[quote] Russell's not gay. He just sucks cock.


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by Anonymousreply 43January 2, 2018 2:16 PM

RT must have a powerful internet scrubber. I can't find any of his "leather daddy" photos. Someone has posted them on DL in the past.

by Anonymousreply 44January 2, 2018 2:26 PM

Who are these people?

by Anonymousreply 45January 2, 2018 2:26 PM

It's Allan Carr (born Allan Solomon), not Allen.

by Anonymousreply 46January 2, 2018 2:28 PM

[quote]How did Allen Carr turn Russell Todd and Howard McGillin GAY?

The way to a man's heart is through his stomach.

by Anonymousreply 47January 2, 2018 2:29 PM

It was that bitch of a stepdaughter of mine that did it

by Anonymousreply 48January 2, 2018 2:29 PM


by Anonymousreply 49January 2, 2018 2:33 PM

So the concept of bisexuality is lost on some of you.

by Anonymousreply 50January 2, 2018 2:37 PM

[quote] So the concept of bisexuality is lost on some of you.

Both of them identify as 100% GAY not bisexual

by Anonymousreply 51January 2, 2018 2:46 PM

[quote]So the concept of bisexuality is lost on some of you.

Completely. I wish bisexuals would get as lost.

by Anonymousreply 52January 2, 2018 2:58 PM


That's why I had her fired

by Anonymousreply 53January 2, 2018 3:32 PM

R12, the confusion is in your brain apparently.

by Anonymousreply 54January 2, 2018 3:45 PM

McGillin was not just married to a woman, but they spawned. Several times.

by Anonymousreply 55January 2, 2018 3:48 PM

Turning someone gay, if they weren't already so inclined, even if somehow possible, would be INCREDIBLY difficult. Simply being in a movie isn't going to turn someone, no way, no how.

by Anonymousreply 56January 2, 2018 4:14 PM

Would kissing Patty Lapone 8 times a week do it?

by Anonymousreply 57January 2, 2018 4:35 PM

They were in the closet and BEARDING, R27!!!!

Actors do that to make more money!

Alan Carr didn’t give them a sexual orientation — no one can!

by Anonymousreply 58January 2, 2018 4:53 PM

Allan Carr has the magic peen! Face it!

by Anonymousreply 59January 2, 2018 5:07 PM


I hate her too

by Anonymousreply 60January 2, 2018 10:50 PM

This past Halloween I was watching Friday the 13th Pt.2 from 1981 for the first time. I'd never seen Russell Todd, I'd never heard of Russell Todd, I don't give a SHIT about Russell Todd.....but baby, when he showed up on screen my drapes caught on fire.

Screw Allen Carr...this boy was gay LOOOONG before "Where the Boys Are".

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by Anonymousreply 61January 3, 2018 1:35 AM

The only influence Allen Carr could have on somebody's sexual orientation would be to make them more STRAIGHT!

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by Anonymousreply 62January 3, 2018 1:40 AM

I got a vibe from Russell Todd at one of those horror conventions

by Anonymousreply 63January 3, 2018 1:49 AM

Both men are very handsome.

by Anonymousreply 64April 9, 2018 2:36 PM

Howard pinged to high heaven LOOOONG before he resolved things with the wife and came out. The only person he was keeping that 'secret' from was himself.

by Anonymousreply 65April 9, 2018 2:42 PM

[quote]The only influence Allen Carr could have on somebody's sexual orientation would be to make them more STRAIGHT!

Oh, poppy’scock!

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by Anonymousreply 66April 9, 2018 3:49 PM

OMG! Those pits!

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by Anonymousreply 67June 24, 2018 6:45 PM

Howard McGillin & Music Of The Night

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by Anonymousreply 68June 24, 2018 6:48 PM

Howard McGillin is still very handsome

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by Anonymousreply 69June 24, 2018 6:52 PM

Who are Russell Todd and Howard McGillin?

by Anonymousreply 70June 24, 2018 6:53 PM

Rumors about these two for years.

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by Anonymousreply 71June 24, 2018 6:57 PM

so again how did he turn them both gay?

by Anonymousreply 72March 12, 2019 1:04 AM

r72 Nobody can turns gay, maybe they are bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 73March 12, 2019 1:31 AM

The first time I saw McGillan was in Drood in Central Park. Very handsome in that.

by Anonymousreply 74March 12, 2019 1:47 AM
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