Remember in 1980 When Jimmy Carter Conceded

I just saw this video of clips from all the concession speeches going back to Nixon.

Trump will probably not go down gracefully, but between "It was rigged, get your guns", and "I lost but it's not my fault, I blame everyone else", I hope it's the latter.

OP, yes I remember it clearly.

I was in college on the East Coast. Left the library and went to get something to eat. I planned to then go to an election viewing party in my dorm. It was a couple of minutes before 10 p.m. when I got to the restaurant, which had the election results on TV. At 10:01, Jimmy Carter conceded the election.

My mouth dropped open since the polls on the West Coast had just closed a minute earlier.

Why so soon?

As Olivia Newton-John and/or Fleetwood Mac would say "It was a landslide"

When we heard they Reagan victory announced we actually wept tears of joy! We were Main street in Santa Monica at that moment.

That's because you're a cunt, Erna,

I've watched the cbs/NBC/abc coverage on YouTube and all the anchors (Rather, John Chancellor, etc) looked like they were attending a funeral procession.

I think it was Rather who said this was a mandate that the ideology of the 60s and 70s was officially dead. Clearly he didn't think that was a good thing.

If anyone has time, they're really interesting to watch.

link r7?

The best and saddest is Gore.

Just when I thought Erna couldn't possibly nauseate me more...Tears of Joy for fucking Reagan? It's past your bedtime, Bonzo/R5.

I guess tears from a clown is a cliche for a reason.

He is a man of great dignity and character.

Remember when Hillary was too drunk and hysterical to concede before Trump delivered his victory speech? Hillary proved that politics is a man's game by her poor sportsmanship in defeat.

[quote]Why so soon?

Every presidential election since 2000 has been a nail-biter, but previous elections were not. Reagan carried 43 out of 50 states in 1980, so it was immediately obvious who won.

Reagan went on to carry 49 out of 50 states in 1984. True landslides like that are unthinkable today.

You're going to have to try harder, R12. Maybe there's a remedial course you could take.

He had sufficient.

Who are all the right wing nut jobs invading DL this week? Like R12. The Tebow and Treason threads are full of them. Can’t all be just crackpot Erna. Glad when this Holiday Season is over.

Jimmy Carter will always be my favorite president. I’ll never forget this day as I cried then and cried again at his concession speech. I turned 60 the year he he was voted out—fresh into retirement from GM living in Metro-Detroit with my now partner who ran a book store (now comic book store). My partner and I we’re just talking about Trump, and if he loses, would he share the same grace that Jimmy Carter did with Reagan in order to make this “the best transition in history”? We have our doubts and feel the last of the great presidents are behind us.

Omg r17...are you in your 90s now...? Carter was voted out in like...1979

Betty Ford gave the concession speech for her husband in '76 ... drunk and on dolls.

Carter is a great humanitarian, but was one of Americas worst Presidents.

Stagnant economy, crumbling infrastructure, high inflation & he basically did shit when Iran seized our Embassy in Iran & took Americans hostage.

The hostile, aggressive, terrorist-funding Iran we see today is Carters fault

I would like a news team to collect the Central Park Five and have them all together when CNN predicts that Trump has lost his re-election bid. Then they can all laugh and high five and gloat about it.

Then I’d like to do a clockwork orange thing to trump, forcing him to watch that for days, eyelids forced open.

^^ Spike Lee on a meth bender

Sadly no, r22.

I was in high school when Carter lost, and remember thinking "Ronald Raygun" was going to start a nuclear war. I was seriously scared.

.I'll pack your chute Rush Jr. R20

He gave the Democratic establishment one last reason to hate him.

[quote]Trump will probably not go down gracefully, but between "It was rigged, get your guns", and "I lost but it's not my fault, I blame everyone else", I hope it's the latter.

He will not give a concession speech. No way. He may send Ivanka to read some type of statement, which will not admit a loss.

I think He would be disastrous if Trump lost. I think people would go crazy—maybe a civil war.

*it would be

What do you mean "if Trump lost", R28?

R20, wtf are you talking about? Carter did send a rescue mission to Iran that failed. I still think Reagan pulled an October surprise. Iran has a reason for hating the U.S..

I made him do it

R32.

"Trump will probably not go down gracefully, but between "It was rigged, get your guns", and "I lost but it's not my fault, I blame everyone else", I hope it's the latter. "

Sounds just like Hillary.

[quote] Carter is a great humanitarian, but was one of Americas worst Presidents...Stagnant economy, crumbling infrastructure, high inflation & he basically did shit when Iran seized our Embassy in Iran & took Americans hostage.

At least the hostages got home alive.

My feeling these days, as I grow older, is that Presidents don’t have the influence they are thought to have. They are limited in the good things they can do, but unlimited in the mess they can cause. Witness the poorly execute wars under Dubya. Plus his tax cut for the rich.

Ditto for Trump and his withdrawals from settled treaties, trade wars, tax cut without corresponding budget cut, and over-funding the military. It’s a disaster.

Dems need to be told to be more careful about conceding prematurely.

Gore did so, then took it back. The Dem Florida Governor conceded, then took it back just this month!

Can you imagine Trump following custom and welcoming his winning opponent to the White House after losing the election?!

That won’t happen, R37. I can’t imagine what would happen.

Nancy Reagan wanted Rosalynn Carter to MOVE OUT the next day, so she could get a head start on redecorating.

Clearly you don't remember it THAT well, R2 (or OP). The whole controversy was that Carter made his concession speech a full hour BEFORE the polls closed on the West Coast, which potentially hurt other Democrat candidates in the Pacific Time Zone. There were a couple Dem congressman in California & Oregon who lost their races by very, very narrow margins and felt the early concession speech was to blame. Carter's move pissed off many in the party.

[quote] "What in God's name is wrong with you people?" Speaker of the House Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neill fumed by phone from Boston to Carter's congressional liaison, Frank Moore. When Moore told O'Neill that Carter just wanted to "get it over with," damn the western Democrats, the speaker exploded with rage, yelling, "You guys came in like a bunch of jerks, and I see you're going out the same way." Representative Tom Foley of Washington State put it more succinctly: "It was vintage Carter at its dead worst."

[quote]"Trump will probably not go down gracefully, but between "It was rigged, get your guns", and "I lost but it's not my fault, I blame everyone else", I hope it's the latter. "

[quote]Sounds just like Hillary.

If you weren't so blinded by your, apparently never-ending, hate for the woman you would know that she acknowledged her own mistakes. And unless you started following politics in 2016 you would remember that Clinton ended her primary defeat to Obama in 2018 in a way that united the Democratic party.

How sad that her losing in 2016 is just not enough for you. It's so bizarre.

I'll never forget that day, it was so sad, add to that it was my 68th birthday, just a miserable way to ring in the new year!

Belated happy 106th birthday, R42!

[quote] R37: Can you imagine Trump following custom and welcoming his winning opponent to the White House after losing the election?!

In addition, by tradition, Trump should travel by car with the winner from the White House to the Capital for the inauguration. He’d never do it. He might skip out on the WH visit, too. He’s just too much of a baby.

It’s a stupid tradition, anyway. I can understand the former President attending the inauguration, to personify the peaceful transfer of power, especially if the incumbent lost. But the car ride is ridiculous.

[quote]Clinton ended her primary defeat to Obama in 2018

in 2008

There are quite a few ultra elderly gay men on this thread. I would love to hear more from you.

R46, it’s relative. What’s your age, and what do you think of as “elderly”?

R47, I'm not R46, but any definition of "elderly" would have to include a 106-year old!

It’s a piece of history to be retired when Carter conceded, and to be posting on Datalounge about it.

Some of his accomplishments

He brokered the Camp-David Accords, ending a long war between Israel and Egypt. He pardoned every single conscientious objector from the Vietnam war. He created both the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. HE DIDN'T GO TO WAR! Promoted human rights globally. He signed SALT II, which while not effective, was a symbolic victory for peace. Continued what Ford and Nixon did and established Diplomatic relations with China.

Jimmy Carter is the most underrated president since Chester Arthur.

Really, R48?

I was in the east, but I remember my friends in California protesting that Carter conceded before the CA, WA, OR, HI, and Alaska polls closed

Mandate my ass!

It was the Russians.

So weird he'd concede before polls closed. Couldn't he wait until 1 minute after?

[quote] Trump should travel by car with the winner from the White House to the Capital for the inauguration.

Oh, dear.

The CAPITOL is a building in the CAPITAL. (And so is the White House.)

R56, do you know the history of the distinction between the two spellings? It is perhaps the least useful distinction I know of.

Everything he touched turned to shit. Plus in private he's a nasty little man.

Bravo, r20. r50, Camp David was one of the very worst events in American history. Why does the United States, and only the United States, have to pour billions, yes and trillions of dollars into the Middle East to suppress the Palestinian people and prop up some of the most repressive regimes in history. Rosalind Carter told a big lie concerning Billy and his lobbying for for the murderous Colonel Qadaffi ofLibya. Carter had the idea that we had to remove dictators friendly to the US regardless of the consequences.

[quote]"Trump will probably not go down gracefully, but between "It was rigged, get your guns", and "I lost but it's not my fault, I blame everyone else", I hope it's the latter. "

[quote]Sounds just like Hillary.

Actually it sounds more like the us intelligence establishment, which concluded that the Russians helped to sabotage Hillary’s campaign.

Oh and even Trump himself said, in 2012, that losing a presidential election when winning the popular vote was an outrage and the people should rise up because of it.

Hardly a litany of excuses then, unlike what we’ll get when Trump gets drubbed in 2020.

HI HILLARY!