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Haunting Disappearances

There are 3 haunting disappearances that come to mind. There is nothing scarier to me than these types of stories.

Jennifer Kesse who disappeared in Florida. They actually have video of the person who returned her car that he/she stole to a parking lot 1 mile from her condo where she was taken.Based on the clues, I truly think it was a landscaper or construction worker where she lived. You can see his khaki pants and white shirt.

Tara Grinstead - the teacher who disappeared without a trace. There are basically NO clues.

And the most haunting one of all, Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone who disappeared in NJ,along with his truck. This was a total hit and I am really surprised that the ex husband still has not been charged.

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by Anonymousreply 281April 7, 2020 12:43 PM

Jennifer Kesse

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by Anonymousreply 1November 6, 2016 9:32 AM

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by Anonymousreply 2November 7, 2016 3:26 AM

Amy Bradley, 23, went missing off of a cruise ship in 1998. She was on the cruise with her younger brother and her parents. She was a star athlete, supposedly had a boyfriend but I strongly suspect she was a very closeted lez. At least to her family anyways. She was last seen sitting out on the balcony of her room and then just disappeared. Some racy pictures were found online a few years later and it was thought they might be of her and that she had been sold into prostitution. Such a bizarre case, her family is kind of odd, very controlling family. I wonder what happened to her. if she disappeared willingly or not.

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by Anonymousreply 3November 7, 2016 3:40 AM

The two pictures on the left are of the woman found on an escort website a few years after Amy's disappearance. The two pics on the right are Amy for comparison.

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by Anonymousreply 4November 7, 2016 3:43 AM

A former colleague of mine, David Lindner, Architect with the New South Wales Government. The following is an excerpt from an interview of David's brother, Robyn in July 2012. Very sad story as David was so young and destined for great success in his profession. Remembered fondly.

INTERVIEW

David went missing in Iran in November 1993.  He was on an extended trip travelling through Europe and had decided to travel home overland through Turkey and Iran and on to India before heading back to Australia.  He was an architect and interested to visit the various monuments in these countries.  He had been staying in Tehran with a family he had met whilst travelling overland from Turkey.  He was last seen leaving their house very early one morning on November 11, in a taxi headed for Tehran airport.  He was due to fly to Shiraz to visit the ruins of Persepolis, and then meet up with the family in a few days time.

He never made his rendezvous.  It was a month later before we (David’s family in Australia) learned that something was terribly wrong.  For several weeks we had been surprised not to hear from David – he had been in regular contact with family and friends.  We all just hoped that it would be difficult for him to contact home due to where he was travelling.  This was pre mobile phones and emails, so communication was far less frequent.  When he failed to call before his flight home, we suspected that something was wrong but still had no proof and hoped for the best.  My parents and I headed out to the airport to meet David’s flight on the evening of December 8, 1993, only to watch all the passengers disembark without David.

This was the defining moment when we knew that something was terribly wrong. It was another month before we traced David’s last movements to the family in Iran (tracked back from an address on a box containing a kilim that he had bought in Iran and shipped home).  Despite family travelling to Iran and extensive investigations involving AFP and DFAT, we have had no further news of his whereabouts in over 18 years.

How do you acknowledge the anniversary as it comes around?

There are so many anniversaries that are significant.  The last day we saw him, the day he was due home, birthdays, Christmas.  The day he went missing, November 11, was also my parents wedding anniversary.  It is also marked by Remembrance Day, which is now particularly poignant for me.  When people pause for a minute silence on that day, I think of David.

Your parents passed away without finding David – did they ever come to terms with being able to sit with ‘not knowing?’

Mum and Dad both died longing for news of what had happened to David.  I don’t think they ever came to terms with not knowing and I believe that they both died with broken hearts.  It makes me so sad that the final years of their life had to be so hard.  I have to make a conscious effort to remind myself that they were not always sad and that a large part of their lives had been happy.  It’s easy to remember the worst times when they are the freshest memories. I keep a wedding photo of theirs in a frame at home.  It’s a close up of just the two of them. They are young and look so happy.  When Mum died I felt like it had been so long since I could remember her being happy in any way. That’s when I got this photo out and framed it. I keep it there to remind me that there were good times.

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by Anonymousreply 5November 7, 2016 3:56 AM

How sad R5, I wonder what happened to him :(.

by Anonymousreply 6November 7, 2016 4:04 AM

G's career

by Anonymousreply 7November 7, 2016 4:09 AM

One of the greatest mysteries r6. David was such a highly distinguished and talented professional that the search for him engaged the highest officials in the Commonwealth Government of Australia and NSW Government.

The NSW Government also established the David Lindner Prize for outstanding achievements in the field.

Robyn - I should correct (interviewed above) was David's sister, not his brother.

by Anonymousreply 8November 7, 2016 4:11 AM

Any speculation on what might have happened, r8?

by Anonymousreply 9November 7, 2016 4:19 AM

Could he have been kidnapped for ransom and then something went terribly wrong?

by Anonymousreply 10November 7, 2016 4:22 AM

The terrible disappearance of someone's once clean but now shitty shoes.

by Anonymousreply 11November 7, 2016 4:24 AM

It was such a long time ago even though it feels like yesterday in some ways. I was in the middle of doing my own academic research in Architecture but was close enough to be aware of hus disappearance and the deep pain it has caused his family and colleagues.

No stone was left unturned in the search.

I returned to Canada in 1998. It has only been since my return that I sometimes re-read the efforts that went into finding out about his disappearance that makes me realize how gripping and traumatizing this situation was for a great many people.

On a personal note, I was a silent admirer from a distance - and had a bit of a crush on him. But he wouldn't have been aware. He was in another 'intellectual galaxay' - that is why I still remember him and thought I'd post the story. When I found out he had gone missing - it was a personal blow. And no one knew the extent of my feelings.

Finally, no one knows what happened.

by Anonymousreply 12November 7, 2016 4:47 AM

Brian Shaffer was seen entering a bar but security cameras did not record him leaving.

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by Anonymousreply 13November 7, 2016 5:00 AM

Miranda? Miranda! MIRANDA!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 14November 7, 2016 6:52 AM

PS. It was a novel, later film (for all the derps)

by Anonymousreply 15November 7, 2016 6:52 AM

R3, why do you suspect that she was a lesbian? What do you know of her personal life? Odd assumption. I am somewhat familiar with her case. I think human trafficking is most likely what happened. I can't tell if the pictures are her or not. There was a story of an American soldier meeting with a woman who claimed to be an American being held hostage and sold. I think it was a whore house in Caracas? I could be wrong about the location.

by Anonymousreply 16November 7, 2016 7:01 AM

Matt Mullaney, an American student who disappeared after leaving a Florence, Italy pub. He had little money, no passport and did not use his cellphone or bank cards afterward. There were claims he was spotted in Amsterdam and Dublin, but he has never been found.

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by Anonymousreply 17November 7, 2016 7:05 AM

R13, I read about that disappearance after you posted. It's odd that his friend who was with him the night he went missing won't take a lie detector test. Very odd.

Brian was a good-looking guy.

by Anonymousreply 18November 7, 2016 7:24 AM

Video about Brian Shaffer's disappearance.

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by Anonymousreply 19November 7, 2016 7:46 AM

The Beaumont Children. Three siblings went to a popular beach in Adelaide in 1966 and disappeared. It's been 50 years and still nothing.

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by Anonymousreply 20November 7, 2016 9:32 AM

The Beaumont children were the generation before my mum & dad, and even I heard that story growing up.

by Anonymousreply 21November 7, 2016 9:50 AM

Kind of makes you want to implant a GPS in your kids like they have for pets - or at least give them a bracelet or something small they can keep on their person at all times.

It's strange to me that this hasn't actually become something done more commonly. Don't get me wrong - it's wacky, invasive, and bit over the top. But, since when has that stopped people from embracing something marketed to them.

by Anonymousreply 22November 7, 2016 11:58 AM

If I had kids, I would consider it, r22.

by Anonymousreply 23November 7, 2016 12:08 PM

You hysterical Fraus can buy a GPS arm band or something like it for you kid. here is a link to why you cannot (yet) chip your precious

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by Anonymousreply 24November 7, 2016 12:41 PM

Maybe it's quantum physics.

by Anonymousreply 25November 7, 2016 1:06 PM

I'm missing but very much alive...

by Anonymousreply 26November 7, 2016 1:28 PM

The Springfield Three. Of all the missing persons cases I've ever heard of, that one is just so baffling and strange. It happened back in '92, and not a shred of evidence in all these years. How do three healthy adult women get kidnapped at the same time in a quiet, residential neighborhood with no sign of a struggle, no forced entry, and the neighbors didn't see or hear anything? It's such a bizarre case.

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by Anonymousreply 27November 7, 2016 1:41 PM

They were vaporized by aliens!

by Anonymousreply 28November 8, 2016 8:27 AM

My glasses. Where the fuck are they?

by Anonymousreply 29November 8, 2016 12:36 PM

Bump for Tara Grinstead's murderer being arrested.

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by Anonymousreply 30February 26, 2017 3:52 AM

Wow, Tara Grinstead! I remember that case and I've always wondered about her. Good that they finally got the guy after all these years.

by Anonymousreply 31February 26, 2017 3:58 AM

R27 Could the Springfield Three have been a voluntary, planned disappearance?

by Anonymousreply 32February 26, 2017 3:59 AM

r32 no it was not voluntary. Those women were certainly abducted, and not a shred of evidence has ever been uncovered.

by Anonymousreply 33February 26, 2017 4:03 AM

R5 Could David have been taken by the Iranian govt, thinking he was a spy or something?

Meaning no disrespect, but why would anyone want to take the chance of traipsing alone through Iran, especially a Westerner?

by Anonymousreply 34February 26, 2017 4:04 AM

Aaronq

I saw Amy Bradley's brother interviewed once and I got the sense he knew more than he was telling. Have there been any actual cases of an American woman being kidnapped for use as a sec slave?

by Anonymousreply 35February 26, 2017 4:23 AM

Jerry Tang. This story is ten years old, still no sign of him.

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by Anonymousreply 36February 26, 2017 4:37 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 37February 26, 2017 4:48 AM

R34 If Iran government was behind his disappearance, then we can just say David was indeed a spy.

by Anonymousreply 38February 26, 2017 5:17 AM

the disappearance of Robert L. Kovack in 1998 and his remains found in 2016, frankly I didn't know much about his case, but I find it interesting or I should say shocking that about 50 bodies have been found in the area since the search for Kovack. And based on the report about the massiveness of the bridge and wood area, there could be more bodies under that bridge.

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by Anonymousreply 39February 26, 2017 5:41 AM

This is most likely a human trafficking story, and this is going back some years. Yet, this has always haunted me.

Anyway, I was watching Inside Edition (before they went off the air and returned back to TV). They showed a picture of a boy and a teen girl tied up around a bed. They were not related (as far as I know) or even went missing together, but they were in this picture together. They said they would keep featuring the picture to gain some leads, however the story was dropped once the show went off the air.

Does anyone know of this or what happened or even the backstory?

by Anonymousreply 40February 26, 2017 6:09 AM

I was determined not to die without at least once having a boyfriend/overnight experience with a guy, so I found a guy willing to do that with me.

It was great. He made me think it was real and we both got what we wanted.

I thought later, he could have killed me in my sleep and I guess he'd have been found out by text messages or phone records.

Still, crazy to do on my end.

THe lack of closure for loved ones must drive survivors insane.

by Anonymousreply 41February 26, 2017 6:22 AM

[quote]This is most likely a human trafficking story, and this is going back some years. Yet, this has always haunted me.

Anyway, I was watching Inside Edition (before they went off the air and returned back to TV). They showed a picture of a boy and a teen girl tied up around a bed. They were not related (as far as I know) or even went missing together, but they were in this picture together. They said they would keep featuring the picture to gain some leads, however the story was dropped once the show went off the air.

Does anyone know of this or what happened or even the backstory?

I wanted to add that this picture was found well after the two went missing. It was as if whoever had these two children wanted it to be known that they were still alive, and they have them. I still can't get the look of their desperation in the children's eyes. It was so sad and haunting.

by Anonymousreply 42February 26, 2017 6:39 AM

It's usually the apartment security guard who did it.

by Anonymousreply 43February 26, 2017 6:40 AM

I heard about the disappearance of that Midwest weather girl - Jodi huisentruit - many years back - and think it's haunting.

Think it's clear she was abducted and murdered.

It's very David lunch/twin peaks - attractive girl disappears in a small, 'safe' community. Only she's never been found.

What on earth happened?

Was it just a random act of violence and bad luck on her part? Someone passing through who happened to see her very early in the morning - or was it someone local with a bit more knowledge of her and her movements?

Surely if you lived in or around that community, you'd have to wonder...

by Anonymousreply 44February 26, 2017 7:04 AM

R33, Sounds like they were lured away, like maybe with some story of an emergency by a fake cop (a la Ted Bundy).

by Anonymousreply 45February 26, 2017 8:18 AM

The Aeryn Gillern case, a gay american man who disappeared in Vienna after visiting a sauna.

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by Anonymousreply 46February 26, 2017 9:46 AM

Annie McCarrick, a girl from Long Island disappeared in Ireland in 1993.

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by Anonymousreply 47February 26, 2017 10:05 AM

R46, have you seen the documentary Gone, about Aeryn's case?

I think he had a sexual encounter (assault?) with a government figure at the sauna he frequented, and it ended up getting him killed. I don't know why I was surprised to learn how conservative the Austrian establishment can be about gays. I guess there's a tendency to conflate Austria with Germany in these things.

by Anonymousreply 48February 26, 2017 10:47 AM

[quote]Sounds like they were lured away, like maybe with some story of an emergency by a fake cop (a la Ted Bundy).

It's believed that they were taken by force, because all of their personal belongings were in the house. Even in an emergency a woman is going to grab her purse and wallet, and all three purses and wallets were left behind. Such a weird story.

by Anonymousreply 49February 26, 2017 11:09 AM

Maura Murray in NH.

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by Anonymousreply 50February 26, 2017 11:27 AM

One thing about the Maura Murray case is that she crashed her car within view of three houses, yet nobody from any of those houses went out there to try and help. WTF? If a car crashed right in front of your house, wouldn't you run out there to see what you could do? I've always found that little detail about her case so strange.

by Anonymousreply 51February 26, 2017 11:33 AM

Jeffrey Zoltowski in Hawaii.

Imagine being that helicopter pilot who left him behind.

And good luck not getting sucked into the Charley Project!

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by Anonymousreply 52February 26, 2017 11:40 AM

R42, no one has identified the children in the photo, but Tara Calico is thought by many to be the girl. From Calico's Charley Project page:

"Rumors have persisted for years that Calico was the unidentified female in a Polaroid photo discovered in Port St. Joe, Florida on June 15, 1989, nine months following her disappearance. A white Toyota cargo van had been parked in the spot prior to the discovery of the picture. The photo was located on the ground in a convenience store's parking lot in St. Joe. It depicted a long-legged young woman and a smaller boy lying on some sheets and a blue striped pillow. Their mouths were covered with duct tape and their hands tied behind their backs. The photograph was taken in the back of a white Toyota cargo van with no windows, manufactured in the late 1980s. Polaroid officials say the picture had to have been taken after May 1989; the film it was made of was not available until then. A copy of the V. C. Andrews novel My Sweet Audrina, a plastic cup, and a squirt gun are also visible in the photo. V. C. Andrews also happens to be Calico's favorite author. There is apparently a phone number written on the spine of the book, but some of the digits are unreadable. Experts say it could be 300 possible numbers, 57 of which are valid.

"Authorities believe that the girl in the photo was seen walking along the beach in Port St. Joe shortly before the Polaroid was located. Witnesses said that the girl was accompanied by several unidentified adult Caucasian males who appeared to be giving her verbal orders. An unidentified boy was also pictured in the photo; both he and the girl were bound and gagged.

"Some people believed that the boy in the picture was Michael Henley, a nine-year-old boy who vanished in April 1988 from the same area of New Mexico as Calico. His mother identified the boy in the photograph as her son. Henley's remains were found in the Zuni Mountains in 1990. The Federal Bureau Of Investigation (FBI) examined the photo and cannot determine whether the girl is Calico or the boy Henley. The girl's hairline and ear are similar to Calico's, and she has a mark on her calf similar to a scar Calico got from an car accident injury. It is not known whether the Polaroid was staged or whether the boy and girl were being held against their will."

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by Anonymousreply 53February 26, 2017 12:13 PM

A lawyer, Wayne McLean, disappeared from his home near St Margaret's Bay, Nova Scotia in 2005 approx. He went out on an inflatable dingy (sp?) and after a few hours, his wife came down to the dock only to find the boat, his shoes,one sock.

There was a police investigation. No body was ever found. His wife applied in 2010 to have him declared dead.

What is strange is that a few people were interviewed. The sense is he has gone missing - deliberately. I can't remember why. There used to be information about this case on the Internet. It has but all disappeared. No trace on the Internet. Very mysterious.

by Anonymousreply 54February 26, 2017 10:25 PM

Missing Nova Scotia Lawyer, Wayne McLean: Information on the Internet

Searchers scan waters for missing boater

CBC News

October 22, 2007

A search continued Monday in St. Margaret's Bay for the owner of an empty inflatable boat that washed ashore Sunday.

Kenneth Wayne MacLean, 58,from the Tantallon area, did not return home Sunday night.

A Cormorant helicopter, two coast guard vessels and the Halifax fire service's fast rescue craft were in the area Monday looking for any sign of MacLean.

The search kicked off Sunday afternoon, after RCMP got a call that MacLean's 2.4-metre Zodiac was found near Shining Waters Marina.

There were a pair of shoes on board and the engine was attached to the boat.

by Anonymousreply 55February 26, 2017 10:33 PM

The wife of a Nova Scotia man who was reported missing after his boat was discovered adrift in October has applied to have him declared legally dead.

Kenneth Wayne MacLean, 58, of Allen Heights went missing on Oct. 21.

His wife, Audrey MacLean, has filed an application in Nova Scotia Supreme Court to have him declared dead. n her application, she says her family is suffering from financial problems, and she can't sell her husband's assets or collect life insurance without a court decision.

Mr. MacLean's inflatable boat was found in the water near Halifax, and a subsequent search involved police divers, ground searchers and a helicopter.

They turned up nothing except MacLean's shoe and his life-jacket floating on the water nearby.

by Anonymousreply 56February 26, 2017 10:34 PM

Wayne McLean, Nova Scotia Lawyer.

Wife of missing man wants him declared dead Halifax - The Canadian Press Originally published Monday, Dec. 17, 2007 Last updated Saturday, Mar. 14, 2009 1:40AM

The wife of a Nova Scotia man who was reported missing after his boat was discovered adrift in October has applied to have him declared legally dead.

Kenneth Wayne MacLean, 58, of Allen Heights went missing on Oct. 21.

His wife, Audrey MacLean, has filed an application in Nova Scotia Supreme Court to have him declared dead.

In her application, she says her family is suffering from financial problems, and she can't sell her husband's assets or collect life insurance without a court decision.

Mr. MacLean's inflatable boat was found in the water near Halifax, and a subsequent search involved police divers, ground searchers and a helicopter.

They turned up nothing except MacLean's shoe and his life-jacket floating on the water nearby.

by Anonymousreply 57February 26, 2017 10:36 PM

Fourteen years ago, Rachel Cooke went out for a jog in her Georgetown, Texas neighborhood. She was last seen about 300 feet from her home, but she never made it back. She disappeared without a trace. There was a police investigation, but they it went nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 58February 26, 2017 10:46 PM

How many young women have disappeared while jogging or walking down lonely country roads?

by Anonymousreply 59February 26, 2017 10:49 PM

There was a guy who came out to check on Maura Murray after her crash. It was snowing so he offered to let her come inside while he called the police. Maura told him she had already called AAA which the guy knew was a lie because there was no cell service in that area. This was her third accident that week and she had a car full of booze. My theory is that Maura knew he was going to call the cops and that's why she ran. Most likely she got lost in the woods and died of hypothermia.

by Anonymousreply 60February 26, 2017 11:05 PM

R53) Thanks for updating me on that story. It is such a sad ending to what happened to that boy.

by Anonymousreply 61February 27, 2017 1:15 AM

if I had a kid who was kidnapped and killed I would have a hard time not killing myself

by Anonymousreply 62February 27, 2017 3:19 AM

The Maura Murray case is another baffling one. Did somebody just happen to be driving by, saw a crime of opportunity, and take her? If she wandered out into the woods and died from exposure, I imagine her body would've been found. It was freezing cold and the woods were thick, she wouldn't have gotten far. So strange.

by Anonymousreply 63February 27, 2017 3:30 AM

Judy Hymes

by Anonymousreply 64February 27, 2017 4:45 AM

R40, that's the Tara Calico case. I don't think that is her in the photo. The police actually think some young men from her town killed her.

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by Anonymousreply 65February 27, 2017 6:53 AM

For anyone interested in the Maura Murray case, I highly recommend James Renner's book True Crime Addict: How I Lost Myself in the Mysterious Disappearance of Maura Murray. It's not a straightforward account of his investigation, as he does a sort of parallel thing with the effect the investigation had on his own life, but there's tons of info about Maura, the people she knew, the details of the case, and various theories about what happened to her. One of the more intriguing things Renner brings up is how among Maura's family, only her father speaks publicly about the case, and if you're familiar with him...suffice it to say that he is very controlling of the narrative. There is the distinct implication in the book that her family might not be nearly as in the dark about what happened as you may imagine, and that is why none of them save her dad make any sort of public appeals on her behalf or do anything to push for investigation into her disappearance.

by Anonymousreply 66February 27, 2017 7:06 AM

R65) Wow, now I don't know what to believe. The boy in the pic isn't Henley, who died in the mountains, and no one has come forth to recognize him.

I go back and forth on whether that is Tara in the photo. However, it does make sense that some high school boys killed her by accident.

Maybe, that pic was a prank, but the book was by Tara's favorite author. How would the prankster know that. Anyway, I found out that they hae re-opened this cold case, which is good if that means they are still looking and having shelved this back into a cold case.

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by Anonymousreply 67February 27, 2017 7:52 AM

I meant haven't re-shelved this case back into the cold case department.

by Anonymousreply 68February 27, 2017 8:02 AM

Here are some copies of police reports about the cold case investigation regarding Tara Calico. From the reports it's seems like the Sheriff's son may have been involved and it was covered up by the sheriff and a police detective on the case

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by Anonymousreply 69February 27, 2017 8:05 AM

Interesting. I was just reading a statement by Tara's stepfather. He disputed the sheriff's claim that he knew who killed Tara, but since he didn't have a body, he couldn't make an arrest.

[quote] Calico's stepfather, John Doel, disputed these claims, saying that the sheriff should not have made these comments if he was not willing to arrest anyone and that strong circumstantial evidence should be enough for a conviction. In October 2013, a six-person task force was established to re-investigate Calico's disappearance.

by Anonymousreply 70February 27, 2017 8:09 AM

R69) I'll read your link later. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 71February 27, 2017 8:10 AM

[quote]From the reports it's seems like the Sheriff's son may have been involved and it was covered up by the sheriff and a police detective on the case

I guess the evidence is buried right along with Tara, because if the sheriff's son had something to do with it, there is no way in solving this case.

by Anonymousreply 72February 27, 2017 8:41 AM

This is my favorite missing person case from American history.

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by Anonymousreply 73February 27, 2017 9:21 AM

Thanks this thread. Silly jackass especially tonight posting all over here. So old but in every way

by Anonymousreply 74February 27, 2017 9:31 AM

Mr ģibson

by Anonymousreply 75February 27, 2017 10:01 AM

Dave, Jennifer

by Anonymousreply 76February 27, 2017 10:03 AM

You all sick

by Anonymousreply 77February 27, 2017 10:10 AM

R12 killer

by Anonymousreply 78February 27, 2017 10:13 AM

R17 Italy. Killer

by Anonymousreply 79February 27, 2017 10:17 AM

r46/ r48, Aeryn Gillern was tweaked out on god knows what the night he disappeared, and according to witnesses he ran out of that sauna naked and screaming in the middle of a cold night, so it's pretty safe to assume he ended up dead by misadventure, as they call it in law.

The fact that they never found his body could mean that he jumped or fell into the Danube canal, which is not far from where he was last seen, and got swept downstream (the current moves fast there).

by Anonymousreply 80February 27, 2017 10:45 AM

The Sodder/Soddu Children of WV

by Anonymousreply 81February 27, 2017 12:21 PM

It wasn't in the middle of the night R80, it was 7.30 pm and most of the people that fall into the danube canal get found because near there is a hydroelectric plant with grills that catch most of the bodies.

by Anonymousreply 82February 27, 2017 1:43 PM

Brian Shaffer met the Smiley Face Killer.

by Anonymousreply 83February 27, 2017 5:52 PM

R7, M's vaginal AND anal tightness

by Anonymousreply 84February 27, 2017 5:54 PM

there was a seller on ebay in the early days whose17 year old daughter went missing on a night she went to the movies. She was a straight A student and according to him was just an all around great person and happy. Every year on the anniversary of her disappearance he updated his ME page. Reading it year after year you could read the hopelessness that he felt. by the 5th year he had given up and posted that he now assumed she would never be coming home. Shortly after that my computer died and I couldn't remember his user name so lost track but hoped that they had least found her body so his family could have closure.

If any of my children had been abducted I would have prayed for them to be killed within a few days. The thought of them living horrific lives would be way too much to bear & I would not have been able to stand the thoughts of their suffering..

There was a story on unsolved mysteries about a young woman that went missing. Leads kept showing up that she had been kidnapped and sold into slavery to be a partner for bikers. They said she never talked and they gave her some dumb nickname for it. Her mother searched for her for over 30 years but never found her. The last they heard was that the victim was sold to someone in Europe. They never even got proof that it was the woman they were looking for. I would rather my kid be dead than live like that.

by Anonymousreply 85February 27, 2017 8:18 PM

The missing girl was Amy Billig. Her mother died without ever finding out what happened to her.

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by Anonymousreply 86February 27, 2017 10:16 PM

The case of Omar Laparra is very strange.

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by Anonymousreply 87February 27, 2017 10:18 PM

r87 ugh, that reddit links to websleuths which links to a facebook page with one, shitty picture of the guy. Unless he always looked like a 15 year old girl sticking out her tongue, they may want to fucking add more and better pictures to that page. If those fucking Brujeria creeps are still practicing, I'd look towards something like that.

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by Anonymousreply 88February 28, 2017 1:22 AM

The disappearances of several men in Florida. All were gay and linked to the same person.

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by Anonymousreply 89February 28, 2017 3:05 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 90February 28, 2017 7:18 PM

I posted here once about a distant cousin of mine that went missing in the late 60s. She was 14 at the time and vanished without a trace. It's been 50 years now and no one knows what happened to her. She went missing before I was born and even I sometimes wonder what ever happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 91February 28, 2017 7:28 PM

Here's her missing persons poster from the RCMP.

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by Anonymousreply 92February 28, 2017 7:31 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 93March 2, 2017 4:54 AM

must be tragic to live this way, never knowing what happened, never knowing in they might come back

my dad died when I was super young; he was in the military and did intelligence work for them before I was born. It wasn't a lot, but he was smart.

I sometimes fantasize that he didn't die, that he left because of that work and some day he'll come back.

But the only way we'll be reunited is when I die.

by Anonymousreply 94March 2, 2017 5:12 AM

R88. That's the case I bring up when skeptics give me shit about there being no dark occultists/Satanists.

People think that because they don't believe in evil that others don't worship it.

by Anonymousreply 95March 2, 2017 6:07 AM

[quote] She was 14 at the time and vanished without a trace. It's been 50 years now and no one knows what happened to her. She went missing before I was born and even I sometimes wonder what ever happened to her.

The interesting part about this is that she went missing before. I wonder did your cousin have some form of mental illness. What were the circumstances in how she returned the first time?

by Anonymousreply 96March 2, 2017 6:45 AM

R94, I am so sorry about the circumstances regarding your father. Not knowing him must hurt a lot.

by Anonymousreply 97March 2, 2017 6:30 PM

r96 she didn't go missing Before. she went missing before the poster was born : )

by Anonymousreply 98March 2, 2017 7:15 PM

r95 really? It's the opposite for me, because everything, everything, comes down to money or pussy. They did this but only to ensure they'd make successful drug deals so it doesn't even seem that occult-ish to me. Like poser devil worshippers.

by Anonymousreply 99March 3, 2017 2:05 AM

R98) Oops. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 100March 3, 2017 6:05 AM

The Lyon sisters disappeared from a local mall in a DC suburb in the mid 1970's. I was very little but remember that story being all over the news. They never found those little girls but they recently have made arrests after all these years.

by Anonymousreply 101March 3, 2017 6:56 AM

I discovered the Billig case while searching for information on an acquaintance, R86. There's so many weird and compelling circumstances surrounding it. And another poster is quite right-you can get utterly lost within the stories of The Charley Project.

In the case of the person I was searching for, her turned up alive and well several years later, he'd just taken a powder on his entire life to hook up with someone as loony as he is, and came home after the adventure had run it's course.

As for the negative comments-studying these cases keeps some of us human, and aware of the frailty of our existence. There's a lot of people out there that run far too close to "the lizard part of our brains", as the song goes. There isn't any one of us that couldn't find ourselves in the circumstances that the missing have, opportunity permitting.

by Anonymousreply 102March 3, 2017 4:53 PM

Re: The Springfield Three. It's been said that the cops know who did it, but don't have the evidence to make an arrest. They have also apparently been told from several sources where the bodies are buried, but have never acted on that information. These are just rumors, so who knows what's true or not true.

by Anonymousreply 103March 3, 2017 5:16 PM

There are sites for this "unsolved disappearance/murder/paranoid frau speculation" stuff. They are totally dedicated to exploiting the tragedy and horror in other people's lives. You can get yourselves off on their pain 24/7.

by Anonymousreply 104March 3, 2017 5:51 PM

People missing in National Parks

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by Anonymousreply 105March 6, 2017 2:49 PM

My cousin used to go camping by himself from the age of 11. He used to walk down the street from his house to a wooded area and camp for the weekend. One Saturday morning when he was 17 he made the walk and was never seen again.

The woods were only about 5 minutes from his house and he made the trip hundreds of times. The police searched and there was no trace of him anywhere, or evidence that he had reached the woods.

This was back in 1989 and he's never been found. There's a school on that wooded area now and when the work was being done the police were present to look for clues--or a body--but nothing was found.

by Anonymousreply 106March 6, 2017 3:30 PM

A local man disappeared in my city back in late 2002, during a night out at a bar.

A year later, his nearly-mummified body was found inside the bar, wedged between two walls.

Nobody knows what happened, or why the guy put himself in there. Very weird story.

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by Anonymousreply 107March 6, 2017 6:21 PM

re: R107:

Why is it men just can't ask for directions!

by Anonymousreply 108March 6, 2017 6:25 PM

OMG, R107! I remember that case. I was young at the time and used to hang out at the pub right next door.

by Anonymousreply 109March 6, 2017 6:26 PM

I hope your family gets an answer one day, R106.

by Anonymousreply 110March 6, 2017 8:34 PM

I can't remember the missing guy's name, but there was a case where a guy had car trouble and called his father to pick him up. He was walking along the road and was still talking to his father, who was driving and he suddenly exclaimed something like 'Oh, shit ...' and then the phone went dead.

The abandoned car was found but the guy was never heard from again. The road he was walking was near a body of water and the assumption was that he tripped and fell in. But no body was ever found.

by Anonymousreply 111March 6, 2017 11:13 PM

5 Unexplained Disappearances With Mysterious CCTV Footage

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by Anonymousreply 112March 6, 2017 11:32 PM

That was Brandon Lawson.

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by Anonymousreply 113March 6, 2017 11:35 PM

Actually it was Brandon Swanson R111 was referring to. The names and circumstances of their disappearances are strangely similar.

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by Anonymousreply 114March 6, 2017 11:39 PM

There was a famous murder case in Pennsylvania, "The Main Line Murderer.s." Susan Reinert, a plain, "pathologically foolish (as one law officer called her)" divorced school teacher fell in love with a fellow teacher, a sociopath named William Bradfield. Bradfield strung her along, swindled her out of her inheritance and convinced her to make him sole beneficiary of life insurance policies worth $750,000 by telling her they would be married soon in England. He formed an alliance with the former principal at the school where they both worked, another sociopath by the name of Jay Smith. One night, after a violent hail storm, Reinert suddenly got herself and her two children Karen and Michael into her car and headed for destinations unknown. Her body was later found in the trunk of her car; she'd been beaten, had marks on her body that appeared to be from being chained, and was dead of a morphine overdose. The children were nowhere to be found. They were just gone. It was a very bizarre case and it was never determined exactly why Reinert left her home with her children so abruptly or where they went, but Bradfield and Smith were eventually convicted of the murders of all three of them. Bradfield eventually died in prison. Smith was sentenced to death, but amazingly was released on a legal technicality and spent the remainder of his life as a free man. What happened to Karen and Michael Reinert has never been known. They simply disappeared without a trace. It was really quite heartbreaking; they were both bright, active, very lovable children and were only 11 and 10 years old. Such a tragedy that they had to die because of their mother's pathetic love for a man who in reality couldn't stand her.

by Anonymousreply 115March 6, 2017 11:51 PM

Brandon!

by Anonymousreply 116March 6, 2017 11:55 PM

Dave Paulides holds two degrees from the University of San Francisco, and has a professional background that includes twenty years in law enforcement and senior executive positions in the technology sector. David has retired twice and is now the director of the CanAm Missing Project.

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by Anonymousreply 117March 7, 2017 12:44 AM

Nice victim-blaming attitude there, R115.

by Anonymousreply 118March 7, 2017 12:01 PM

r117 that was really long but absolutely fascinating. I had guessed that maybe that was one of the reasons but fail to understand how they can be so stealth as they always appear to be so huge and maybe clumsy which obviously they aren't.

by Anonymousreply 119March 7, 2017 4:56 PM

R118 The woman made stupid decisions that lead to the demise of her and her innocent children. She shouldn't have been so damned desperate for a man.

by Anonymousreply 120March 7, 2017 5:13 PM

Poor Susan didn't exactly have her pick of the fellows.

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by Anonymousreply 121March 7, 2017 11:44 PM

Yes, let's blame the victim and not the perps

by Anonymousreply 122March 7, 2017 11:47 PM

"Yes, let's blame the victim and not the perps."

She put her children in harm's way by her actions. That's not blaming the victim, that's just a fact.

by Anonymousreply 123March 8, 2017 12:12 AM

No, the murderers put her kids in harm's way.

by Anonymousreply 124March 8, 2017 12:35 AM

"No, the murderers put her kids in harm's way."

No, her actions set into motion the murderer's actions. She took out a huge amount in life insurance policies and made Bradfield the sole beneficiary, disinheriting her children, trusting that if anything happened to her he would be the right person to handle the money. But if only SHE had ended up dead, no doubt her ex-husband would have brought the matter to court and the court would have ruled in favor of the two minor children not Bradfield, who was not Reinert's husband. So the children had to be eliminated along with Reinert. It was part of the plan.

"Echos In The Darkness" by Joseph Wambaugh tells the whole story, or as much of it will ever be known. It stated:

About Susan Jane Gallagher Reinert it could be said that there were mixed feelings that Christmas. The lawmen said that she'd walked into danger with her eyes wide open, holding a child by each hand. The more that was learned about the $25,000 investment (she'd given Bradfield $25,000 in CASH to "invest" for her) and especially the $730,000 worth of life insurance policies, the angrier the task force became. It would've been hard to find a cop or special agent who spent much time pitying the woman who ended up in the trunk of her car in a Harrisburg parking lot. You would often hear a lawman say , "She got what she deserved."

But every one of them was working hard in the hopes of finding the children dead of alive. The bulletins showing those handsome young faces was heartbreaking.

What they could deduce about Susan Reinert's death was this: she'd been called away from her house suddenly. When she and her children arrived at their rendezvous they were met by more than one executioner. It took more than one to control a desperate mother and two hysterical children.

The one hundred pound woman fought back, but was beaten severely, possibly with fists. Her mouth was taped and she was cinched so tight that the links gouged a trail around her body.

As she lay helpless she may well have seen and heard her children being murdered. She may well have seen and heard more than that.

She could not die until such a time as a killer could establish an unshakable alibi. It was at least 24 hours, perhaps 36, before Susan Reinert was murdered, in order to fix an acceptable time of death.

One can speculate about the night and day and night of unimaginable agony this mother suffered as she came to understand the folly that had brought she and Karen and Michael to this. When the lethal injection came, she probably welcomed it.

Task force members in frustration would often say "That woman's stupidity was a crime."

To call Susan Reinert's pathetic love for a man "a crime" was acceptable cop hyperbole, but no crime deserved THIS punishment. To devise a death as cruel as Susan Reinert's required a supremely Gothic imagination.

by Anonymousreply 125March 8, 2017 1:23 AM

Wow, an interesting and sad story. I work in school, and I swear there are a lot of psychotic acting principals. Is there a pic of her kids?

by Anonymousreply 126March 8, 2017 2:02 AM

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by Anonymousreply 127March 8, 2017 2:14 AM

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by Anonymousreply 128March 8, 2017 2:14 AM

Jay Smith's daughter and son-in-law are also missing.

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by Anonymousreply 129March 8, 2017 2:17 AM

Thanks for the pics, so the principal's daughter is missing.. Now, I guess it's time for some vigilante justice.

by Anonymousreply 130March 8, 2017 2:34 AM

William Bradfield died in prison. Jay Smith, the incredibly perverted principal (he was also a colonel in the army and a Ph.D.) was sentenced to death but due to a legal technicality was released and spent the remainder of his life as a free man. A woman actually married him! He died in 2009 at age 80. He filed several lawsuits against the state police and Joseph Wambaugh, but of course did not prevail in any of them. He also put out a batshit crazy book entitled "Joseph Wambaugh and the Jay C. Smith Case" which is loony beyond belief. His daughter and son in law disappeared (like the Reinert children) and were never seen again. All guilt pointed to Smith but he was never tried for any crimes in connection with his missing daughter and son in law. And he escaped the death penalty. A very evil, but also very lucky, man.

by Anonymousreply 131March 8, 2017 3:00 AM

[quote]Maybe, that pic was a prank, but the book was by Tara's favorite author.

VC Andrews was an incredibly popular author, especially amongst teenage girls. It's more than likely just a coincidence or mom claiming the book her daughter's fave after seeing the photo as a means of giving herself hope.

by Anonymousreply 132March 8, 2017 3:15 AM

You know what r122, you kinda can blame the victim when they drag their innocent kids into this. How fucking dumb do you have to be to sign a a life insurance policy over to some dude you've known for a year? Especially when you have fucking kids! I guess those kids were going to be assed out either way with a mom like that, it may be a blessing she got them murdered.

by Anonymousreply 133March 8, 2017 3:21 AM

r133 sounds like a real sociopath. She trusted him and didn't think she was harming her kids. But you have to be a real nut to say the kids are better off dead, why am I even arguing with you?

by Anonymousreply 134March 8, 2017 4:02 AM

R112, ococee, Florida she went missing? Guy on video thinks nothing of pairing white socks and black sneakers. HMM MMM Who would that be?

by Anonymousreply 135March 8, 2017 4:53 AM

It's been said that the cops are sure they know who abducted and murdered The Springfield Three (it was more than one man involved) but they don't have the evidence to make an arrest. The mother was killed immediately, and the two girls were kept alive to be sexually assaulted several times before they were killed. The bodies were all buried somewhere in Springfield, supposedly at a construction site. Apparently, there is a lot of information about this case that has never been made public.

by Anonymousreply 136March 8, 2017 4:02 PM

The case mentioned at R131 had a movie made out of it (TV movie?) with Stockard Channing and Peter Coyote

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by Anonymousreply 137March 8, 2017 9:42 PM

This clip features one of the guys in the R131 case

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by Anonymousreply 138March 8, 2017 9:45 PM

R136 springfield was where I grew up although I had moved away by that time. My parents talked about this case a lot. One of the girls was a high school friend who gave Sheryll's (sp?) daughter a ride home from a party. The girls had both graduated from high school that afternoon. I believe the police do have more information.

by Anonymousreply 139March 8, 2017 10:25 PM

"The case mentioned at [R131] had a movie made out of it (TV movie?) with Stockard Channing and Peter Coyote."

I saw it. It wasn't that great. I thought the casting mostly sucked. Oh, I thought Stockard Channing was a good choice to play the plain Jane Susan Reinert. But Peter Coyote and Robert Loggia were entirely wrong as Bradfield and Smith. Bradfield was huge and husky, 6'4 and a former wrestler in college, a formidable specimen. Peter Coyote is skinny and pale and seems as menacing as a kitten. Robert Loggia tries very hard to be evil, but I always got a good guy vibe from him and he just doesn't seem right in the role. He just doesn't cut it as the slimy, pervy Jay Smith. If remade I always thought that J. K. Simmons would have made a perfect Jay Smith. He has that slug-like look that Smith had and he can play evil to perfection.

by Anonymousreply 140March 9, 2017 1:36 AM

Anybody remember the Susan Powell case? In December 2009, Susan Powell, a young Mormon mother in Utah, disappeared, poof, just like that.

For some unfathomable reason the attractive, well-liked young woman fell in love with a weird loser named Josh Powell; most people couldn't stand him, but she wanted to marry him. She had a strong maternal instinct; it's possible she wanted to mother the socially awkward Powell who was 26 when she met him but looked like a gawky sixteen year old. For a short while they were happy; they had two little boys, Charlie and Braden. But then Powell, who considered himself in complete control by then, became more and more irrational and abusive. He rarely worked; he couldn't keep a job because he was so unbearable. She had to make the money, but he controlled it and could give her $20 to buy food for the household. In addition to this, Powell's father was a perv with a sexual obsession with Susan; they lived with him for a short time and he took pictures of her without her knowledge, pictures of her undressing, inserting a tampon, etc. Susan Powell was a Mormon; her faith told her that once you are married, that's it, it's forever. She tried hard to make it work but was emailing friends about the intolerable situation and seemed ready to make a break with the children. She also feared for her safety and said in one email that if she died in what looked like an accident it might not be one. She must have had a sixth sense.

After Susan Powell's disappearance, Josh Powell said the night she went missing he took his took children, ages 2 and 4 at the time. on an spur of the moment camping trip after midnight and in freezing weather. He suggested Susan may have run off with another man. His claims were ridiculous; all evidence pointed to foul play. He was a "person of interest." But he was never arrested.

Susan Powell's parents fought for custody of the boys, who were already exhibiting signs of mental disturbance. Josh Powell considered them his possession and fought to keep them, but the parents ended up with custody. Powell got supervised visits. On one a social worker came to the door; he pulled the boys inside and slammed the door in her face. Going back to her car, she called 911 and got a clueless dispatcher who kept asking inane questions that had nothing to do with the matter at hand. While she was one the phone, the house blew up in flames. Powell had blown the house up, killing himself and the two little boys. Before killing them, he'd used a hatchet on them to subdue them and the autopsy showed they both had "chop wounds" to their heads and necks.

It's surmised that Josh Powell killed his wife and disposed of her body during the midnight "camping trip", possibly with one of his brothers (one of his brothers committed suicide). His pervy father Steven was arrested on voyeurism charges. He spent some time in jail, got out, then was tried for child pornography charges and went back to jail.

The active investigation into Susan Powell's disappearance had been closed.

by Anonymousreply 141March 9, 2017 2:03 AM

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by Anonymousreply 142March 9, 2017 3:16 AM

For r101 regarding the Lyon Sisters.

LE conducted basically an archeological dig on Taylor Mountain in Virginia, the family farm of Lloyd Welsh family, looking for any evidence. According to the link below, they found one tooth that might connect Lloyd Welch to this very sad and decades long cold case until they connected Lloyd Welsh to the abduction and presumed murder of these sisters.

The father of Lloyd Welsh is also suspected in this crime. Family members started cooperating, after Lloyd revealed vital information, regarding suspicious activities at the farm around the time the sisters vanished from a MD shopping plaza.

I was 15 when the sisters vanished. I lived in a very close neighborhood when this happened and it was a very big deal.

The sisters' brother grew up to be a Montgomery County cop. He is most responsible for keeping this case alive since the 1970's.

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by Anonymousreply 143March 9, 2017 5:23 PM

R141, remember that case and how the father was smeared online by relatives, friend and the court system fucked him over. They pushed him to the brink. They need to own that. He was exasperated. Big hint nobody caught on was his children's valuable toys were all put to the curb for the taking.

by Anonymousreply 144March 9, 2017 7:06 PM

"Remember that case and how the father was smeared online by relatives, friend and the court system fucked him over. They pushed him to the brink. They need to own that. He was exasperated."

Are you actually DEFENDING Josh Powell? Actually it was him and his relatives who were doing all the "smearing" online; they created a website in which they raked the parents of Susan Powell over the coals, and depicted the missing Susan as a hot to trot nympho who even made sexual passes at her father in law (a total lie; she found him repulsive). At any rate, nobody pushed Josh Powell "the the brink" and he wasn't "exasperated." He was a psycho from beginning to end.

by Anonymousreply 145March 10, 2017 12:08 AM

R143, I was only 5 at the time and still remember seeing their pictures in the Washington Post. I also lived very close by and spent many weekends at Wheaton Plaza.

by Anonymousreply 146March 10, 2017 5:35 AM

R60, Who says that guy's tale is true? Sounds like a suspect to me.

by Anonymousreply 147March 10, 2017 5:49 AM

I think once you have kids you have to get smart and put the kids first and you can't be suckered in by someone who wants your money and ends up killing you and in all likelihood your kids.

I wish I were a multi-millionaire and I could pay people to hang with me and then when we're done they're gone.

I don't want to lie to myself and think I'm in love when I'm not and he doesn't love me back.

by Anonymousreply 148March 10, 2017 6:03 AM

[quote]I think once you have kids you have to get smart and put the kids first

No truer words. I don't think it was wise for that "mother" to basically will money to a man and not her minor children.

by Anonymousreply 149March 10, 2017 6:10 AM

I couldn't stop monitoring the Kyron Horman case out of Portland. Obviously the wicked, trashy stepmother disappeared him. The whole family is a trashy opera cast of grotesques. But the little boy was goofy and sweet and just didn't deserve it.

by Anonymousreply 150March 10, 2017 6:48 AM

I don't know why they didn't lock up that woman. The Kyron case reminds me of another stepmom killed the kid case. This boy was name Christopher Alan Brown, no relation to the jerk.

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by Anonymousreply 151March 10, 2017 7:38 AM

5 creepy murder mystery/disappearences

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by Anonymousreply 152March 10, 2017 3:12 PM

What happened to Sabrina Aisenberg?

Did her parents or someone else close to them murder her, or was she abducted?

by Anonymousreply 153November 18, 2019 1:02 AM

I remember some missing kid case from the 70s or 80s where a boy went out to see a fire truck going down the street and was never seen again. I can't remember the name.

by Anonymousreply 154November 18, 2019 1:21 AM

There was a podcast about the Tara Calico disapperance called Vanished. It was produced and hosted by a high school friend of Tara's. The audio quality in most episodes wasn't great, but the main belief was that Tara was killed by the sheriff's son and it most people in that town believed it. I also live in New Mexico and a lot of cover ups are rumored to happen when awful people have political or law enforcement connections.

by Anonymousreply 155November 18, 2019 1:31 AM

R155 do you believe that the Westside ABQ serial killer or West Mesa serial killer will ever be identified? I used to live in Albuquerque NM, and ABQ PD is useless, except for when it comes to killing homeless people.

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by Anonymousreply 156November 19, 2019 1:38 PM

The disappearance of German tourist Lars Mittanks. The last video of him in the airport is chilling. Wtf happened to him??

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by Anonymousreply 157November 19, 2019 2:26 PM

ALERT: SleuthFrau Thread

Why are you GHOULS so obsessed with people being kidnapped, raped, maimed and murdered? Why does that get you off? You’re disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 158November 19, 2019 2:32 PM

R158 Mary!

by Anonymousreply 159November 19, 2019 2:56 PM

Henry McCabe, this one is haunting. That voicemail.... *shudders*

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by Anonymousreply 160November 19, 2019 4:16 PM

Michael Sullivan and Camden Sylva who disappeared in NYC in 1997.

Thought to have been murdered and disposed of in the building furnace.

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by Anonymousreply 161November 19, 2019 4:27 PM

Multiple Irish women disappeared in the east of the country and none have been seen again. All mostly young women.

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by Anonymousreply 162November 19, 2019 4:30 PM

R154 when and where did this happen? It sounds familiar.

by Anonymousreply 163November 21, 2019 2:24 PM

R161, I remember that one! Creepy landlord.

I’m interested in Asha Degree’s disappearance. Something fucky with the family.

by Anonymousreply 164November 21, 2019 3:22 PM

Matthew Perry's chin

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by Anonymousreply 165November 21, 2019 4:47 PM

Wiki page with lots of information.

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by Anonymousreply 166November 21, 2019 6:32 PM

Charlie Allen Jr., a college student at UMASS Dartmouth who walked into the woods in 2007 and was never seen again.

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by Anonymousreply 167November 21, 2019 6:47 PM

West Point cadet Richard Colvin Cox

by Anonymousreply 168November 21, 2019 6:50 PM

R167 that sadly sounds like a psychotic break, or he was suicidal. There was a guy Brian Histand in Arizona who disappeared and he had a psychotic break like this he was last seen in a field naked talking nonsense, and they found his body near some trails.

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by Anonymousreply 169November 21, 2019 7:29 PM

I'm involved in one right now! A friend of mine from my gym has been missing for over a week!

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by Anonymousreply 170November 21, 2019 8:03 PM

What is with R74 - R79?! I deep-sixed him.

by Anonymousreply 171November 21, 2019 8:20 PM

Melissa Brannen, an angelic five year old, disappeared on Dec. 3, 1989. Her mother had taken her to a Christmas party at their apartment complex. A weirdo freak named Caleb Hughes, who was a groundskeeper or something, was also at the party. He told a guy he was with that he would like to "go to bed" with women he saw at the party and he approached mothers and offered to "take their children to the bathroom." He paid particular attention to Melissa, commenting on how pretty she was and bringing her a cupcake. While leaving the party Melissa's mother allowed her to go off and get some more potato chips; she never returned. Hughes was an immediate suspect in the disappearance; he was several hours late getting home that night and immediately washed everything he was wearing that night, including his shoes. When questioned by police about the disappearance of the little girl he said "Prove it." Although no body was every found Hughes was convicted of abduction on and sentenced to 50 years in prison.

Caleb Hughes was released on August 2, 2019, having served 28 years of his 50 year sentence. Melissa Brannen has never been found. No doubt Caleb Hughes will go on to commit more heinous crimes.

by Anonymousreply 172November 21, 2019 9:01 PM

Former child actor Joe Pichler best known as the little brother in Varsity Blues disappeared at age 18 in 2006.

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by Anonymousreply 173November 21, 2019 9:09 PM

[quote] How do three healthy adult women get kidnapped at the same time in a quiet, residential neighborhood with no sign of a struggle, no forced entry, and the neighbors didn't see or hear anything?

Why don’t you ask Cary Staynor?

by Anonymousreply 174November 21, 2019 9:40 PM

I grew up in Ft. Worth, TX, where 3 young women (17, 14, and 9) were abducted from a shopping mall parking lot on Christmas Eve, 1974. No trace of them was ever found. They left behind a car filled with Christmas presents. I was 8 years old at the time and it rocked my world.

Every once in a while I look to see if the case has been resolved. I hope that they’re found, someday.

by Anonymousreply 175November 22, 2019 1:03 AM

Oops, a link about the case.

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by Anonymousreply 176November 22, 2019 1:04 AM

This weird story. Was the wife of a Norwegian millionaire kidnapped and held for ransom, or was the kidnapping faked to cover up her murder?

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by Anonymousreply 177November 22, 2019 1:10 AM

this thread scares me.

by Anonymousreply 178November 22, 2019 1:22 AM

"I grew up in Ft. Worth, TX, where 3 young women (17, 14, and 9) were abducted from a shopping mall parking lot on Christmas Eve, 1974."

"Young women?" They were all kids. I shudder to think what might have happened to them.

by Anonymousreply 179November 22, 2019 1:54 AM

r170, that's really sad. I hope they find him.

by Anonymousreply 180November 22, 2019 2:04 AM

This is so scary!

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by Anonymousreply 181November 22, 2019 2:12 AM

R154: I remember some missing kid case from the 70s or 80s where a boy went out to see a fire truck going down the street and was never seen again. I can't remember the name.

R163: [R154] when and where did this happen? It sounds familiar.

I believe it happened it New Jersey, but not 100% sure. If I also remember correctly, there was a strange man in the area known by police to follow young children and the young boy's shoes were found on the banks of a nearby lake.

by Anonymousreply 182November 22, 2019 2:27 AM

Is it this case r182?

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by Anonymousreply 183November 22, 2019 2:45 AM

People who enjoy this thread ought to check out David Paulides, his books, and interviews. It's especially frightening how many go missing without a trace in America's National Parks each year. Sometimes there are strange signs left behind, other times not. He also researched and focused on young men with odd similarities who were later found in shallow bodies of water. Google "Missing 411".

by Anonymousreply 184November 22, 2019 5:05 AM

For the guy saying this is ghoulish, you probably don't remember this, but quite a few cold cases were solved by people watching shows like Unsolved Mysteries who recognized the perp as someone in their town living under a fake name. Before social media, this was the way to let people know, "Keep your eyes peeled for this guy."

by Anonymousreply 185November 22, 2019 6:27 AM

Great podcast

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by Anonymousreply 186November 22, 2019 6:52 AM

Someone must know something !

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by Anonymousreply 187November 22, 2019 7:38 AM

R185, yes, I remember a decent chunk of missing people and fugitives on the lam being caught because of Unsolved Mysteries. I miss that show.

by Anonymousreply 188November 22, 2019 4:51 PM

R188 aren't they producing new episodes of unsolved mysteries on Netflix? I know HLN is going to produce new episodes of forensic files.

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by Anonymousreply 189November 22, 2019 11:20 PM

R187 I think Jodi was killed by that older male friend of hers.

by Anonymousreply 190November 23, 2019 1:25 AM

It might have been mentioned in this thread. But, I always found the Tammy Lynn Leppert case to be quite haunting.

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by Anonymousreply 191November 23, 2019 1:32 AM

R190 I totally agree with you.

by Anonymousreply 192November 23, 2019 2:48 AM

I heard that Jodi's male friend has Alzheimer's. So unless more evidence turns up the case might never be solved.

by Anonymousreply 193November 23, 2019 3:25 AM

Yes, that's what has been said. But if they were getting close to arresting me, I might come down with dementia also.

Something went on during or after that golf outing she was on that upset someone and caused all this. JMO That old guy is number one on the list.

by Anonymousreply 194November 23, 2019 5:01 AM

I remember the Jody H. case, that was national news at the time. IIRC, the family didn't like the guy who is now a suspect.

by Anonymousreply 195November 23, 2019 5:19 AM

R195 The older guy was more than creepy.

by Anonymousreply 196November 23, 2019 7:20 AM

If the car has disappeared with the person...they are probably at the bottom of a lake.

by Anonymousreply 197November 23, 2019 7:34 AM

If the car has disappeared with the person...they are probably at the bottom of a lake.

by Anonymousreply 198November 23, 2019 7:35 AM

Unsolved Mysteries will never be the same without Robert Stack's creepy voice.

by Anonymousreply 199November 23, 2019 1:33 PM

Robert Stack is to Unsolved Mysteries like Rod Serling is to the Twilight Zone.

by Anonymousreply 200November 23, 2019 1:58 PM

The Tiffany Sessions case never gets mentioned, probably because she disappeared in Gainesville, FL, and the Danny Rollings murders from a couple of years later get all the attention there.

Sessions went jogging at twilight in 1989 and never came home. It's thought serial killer Paul Rowles killed her, but nobody knows for sure.

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by Anonymousreply 201November 23, 2019 2:20 PM

The Tiffany Sessions case was always big news down here in South Florida because her father was a well-known developer.

When I was 11 years old, my family moved into the development (now it's own city) that he made--Weston, Florida--and I remember my father telling my mother that the daughter had been killed.

by Anonymousreply 202November 23, 2019 2:52 PM

R157 Wins this thread. The Lars Mittank case is mind boggling and very very creepy.

by Anonymousreply 203November 23, 2019 7:10 PM

I think it's very possible that Charlie Allen Jr. succumbed to the elements or had some kind of accident in the woods and died. His remains have just never been found. Finding a body in the woods can be damn near impossible.

by Anonymousreply 204November 23, 2019 7:56 PM

Not without their purses

by Anonymousreply 205November 24, 2019 5:12 AM

[quote]Unsolved Mysteries will never be the same without Robert Stack's creepy voice.

I agree. I remember that period I think it was 2007 or 2008 when Spike TV(now Paramount) "revived" the show with Dennis Farina doing updates on some of the cases or reairing the heavily edited segments. It was awful and Farina got slammed on the IMDB boards and other sites.

For some odd reason, I find Keith Morrison's narrations on Dateline to creepier than Stack's UM narrations.

by Anonymousreply 206November 24, 2019 2:08 PM

R190 I thought that as well. It was obvious he wanted her, and he was obsessed and if she rejected him he probably had the mentality of, 'If I cannot have you nobody can!' and killed her. There was also some guy who is a serial rapist and serial killer who was living in Jodi's town at the time and lived near her. There are also other suspects but you can google them people posted their names on reddit.

by Anonymousreply 207November 24, 2019 3:18 PM

Poor DeOrr Kunz Jr. :-( I hope you get justice soon.

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by Anonymousreply 208November 24, 2019 3:29 PM

Mary Boyle followed her uncle across the family farm and was to return on her own-a 400 m walk- but she never made it home. That was in 1977.

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by Anonymousreply 209November 24, 2019 3:38 PM

[quote] For the guy saying this is ghoulish, you probably don't remember this, but quite a few cold cases were solved by people watching shows like Unsolved Mysteries who recognized the perp as someone in their town living under a fake name.

At the end of Unsolved Mysteries they would put up photos of wanted criminals unrelated to the stories they’d just broadcast. A lifelong friend of my husband was getting up to go pee when they flashed a photo of a guy who was one of his tenants in a 3 family house he owned in Howard Beach. He hadn’t been paying attention to the phone number to call & he called 911. The local police went to the house and held the guy until the FBI gave them the ok to arrest him.

by Anonymousreply 210November 24, 2019 4:07 PM

R60 I think Maura ran off and was helped by one of those networks that hides abused women.

by Anonymousreply 211November 24, 2019 4:53 PM

R210, holy shit!

Do you remember what crime the guy had committed?

(I also used to like the missing family reunions on Unsolved Mysteries.)

by Anonymousreply 212November 24, 2019 4:54 PM

r60 I think that's what likely happened. She had been drinking in the car, was intoxicated, and knew she would be in some deep shit when the cops arrived so she took off. It was a freezing cold night and she died somewhere in the woods.

by Anonymousreply 213November 24, 2019 4:55 PM

[quote](I also used to like the missing family reunions on Unsolved Mysteries.)

I also liked those segments and some of the stories were quite heartbreaking. Ann Curry's PBS show We'll Meet Again reminds me a bit of those segments.

by Anonymousreply 214November 24, 2019 5:02 PM

R214, me too. And I loved how they were all so middle America.

"Like Billy meets his long lost twin Bob and they find out some fascinating coincidences. Billy likes to fish. Bob is a champion fly fisher."--that kind of schmaltz.

by Anonymousreply 215November 24, 2019 5:06 PM

R207 I've read the theories that the serial killer and rapist may killed kidnapped and killed Jodi.

I might be remembering it wrong, but didn't Jodi claim she had a stalker before her disappearance or was that the murdered news reporter Anne Presley?

by Anonymousreply 216November 24, 2019 7:54 PM

R207 I've read the theories that the serial killer and rapist may killed kidnapped and killed Jodi.

I might be remembering it wrong, but didn't Jodi claim she had a stalker before her disappearance or was that the murdered news reporter Anne Presley?

by Anonymousreply 217November 24, 2019 7:54 PM

That 911 call at R181 has to be one of the most horrible things I've ever heard. Bone-chilling doesn't even begin to describe it.

by Anonymousreply 218November 24, 2019 11:54 PM

Lars Mittank probably had a slow bleed head injury which caused some intercranial pressure and made him psychotic and run off into the woods. His paranoia likely made him hide himself and then the bleed got worse, he herniated and died.

by Anonymousreply 219November 25, 2019 3:25 AM

The family believes that Mary Boyle's uncle molested her and then killed Mary to keep her from telling anyone.

by Anonymousreply 220November 25, 2019 11:22 AM

This was before my time, but it happened in an area of southern California where I would sometimes go jogging at -- the Arroyo Seco in Pasadena, near the Devil's Gate Dam. In 1957, a boy hiking with his family ran just ahead of them, intent on beating them to the family car parked 1/4 of a mile away. In the blink of an eye, he was gone. They finally cracked the case though.

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by Anonymousreply 221November 25, 2019 8:46 PM

Brandy Hall of Palm Bay Florida. Her "Missing" pictures are still all over the city

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by Anonymousreply 222November 25, 2019 8:51 PM

This little boy... heartbreaking.The Kyron Horman case is always in the back of my mind. Who would hurt this sweet kid?

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by Anonymousreply 223November 25, 2019 9:01 PM

The disappearance of Brianna Maitland. Also sometimes linked to the Maura Murray case.

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by Anonymousreply 224November 26, 2019 1:03 AM

Have the Beaumont children been mentioned?

by Anonymousreply 225November 28, 2019 12:29 PM

R191, CDAN had a blind that most believed was about Tammy and what happened to her.

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by Anonymousreply 226November 28, 2019 11:44 PM

Steven Koecher: drove 2 hours from his home in Utah to an upscale residential area near Las Vegas, parked his car and walked away never to be seen again.

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by Anonymousreply 227November 29, 2019 1:34 AM

UCLA student Michael Negrete vanished from his dorm at around 4:00am.

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by Anonymousreply 228November 29, 2019 1:43 AM

Kortne Stouffer.

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by Anonymousreply 229December 2, 2019 5:57 PM

Noriko Shizuka

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by Anonymousreply 230December 2, 2019 6:07 PM

This got me thinking about the Shawn Hornbeck kidnapping. Ben Ownby was kidnapped and while investigating his case they find Shawn Hornbeck, who had been missing for over 4 years. in the same apartment as Ben. I feel sorry for the parents of missing kids because I think the Hornbeck case gave them a lot of hope that their kids would be found.

by Anonymousreply 231December 2, 2019 9:00 PM

Michael Negrete’s case always intrigued me-I graduated from UCLA the prior year, and that part of campus was under significant construction at the time. Also, it would be been chilly that night (probably 40 degrees Or less), and he left in shorts and a t shirt without shoes on.

There was a strange man at the dorm that night and I remember conspiracy theorists insisted it was Damon Van Dam.

by Anonymousreply 232December 2, 2019 9:27 PM

A little black girl named Asha Degree went missing in North Carolina in 2000. Very suspicious circumstances.

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by Anonymousreply 233December 2, 2019 9:53 PM

A guy walks into a bar and is never seen again (not Brian Shaffer)

On Unsolved Mysteries or one it's its copycat series there was a story of an American man in his 20s or 30s who met a buddy at lunch(?)/after work(?) at a rural roadside bar. They played a game of pool, had a beer or two, the guy went to the toilet and was never seen again. His pickup truck(?) was still in the parking lot, there was no certain sign of struggle, no obvious motivation or financial or emotional trouble. Much time passed, mediums were brought in, still nothing.

Anyone remember this case or further details? I forget some of the key details of who and when and where, but recall the very ordinariness and lack of suspicious details made it oddly poignant.

by Anonymousreply 234December 2, 2019 10:30 PM

The Brian Shaffer case is mind-boggling. WTF happened to him?

by Anonymousreply 235December 2, 2019 10:33 PM

I have a theory that Asha Degree had been corresponding with a someone she thought was a child. Either through secret messages or on the phone when her parents weren't home. She sneaks out to meet this person for a secret adventure and it's obvious what happened next.

by Anonymousreply 236December 2, 2019 10:39 PM

R234, that sounds like the TV movie Dying Room Only with Cloris Leachman and Dabney Coleman

by Anonymousreply 237December 3, 2019 1:01 AM

I believe it was widely believed that many of the young college aged guys who were last seen in bars also had bodies of water located very close to their last known whereabouts.

by Anonymousreply 238December 3, 2019 1:05 AM

R238 a lot of them wound up drowning because they were drunk or high and fell in the river accidentally. This also happens in cities and towns where there's a canal, or if the man or woman is drunk and decides to swim in the ocean.

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by Anonymousreply 239December 5, 2019 6:19 PM

R236 Someone on the Unresoved Mysteries subreddit once posted a theory that she was groomed by a teenager who convinced her that they were boyfriend and girlfriend, which being a child, she thought of in a childlike way. I can't find the post, but it convinced me.

by Anonymousreply 240December 6, 2019 4:20 AM

R232, we might have bumped into each other.

The Michael Negrete case remains fascinating because it will never be solved. Remember they even had bloodhounds track his scent to a bus stop on Sunset. The best scenario I've heard is that he went outside to get some air after his gaming sessions. He had on flip-flops and didn't bring/forgot his keys to the dorm. He tried to get into the dorms through the back way and fell into one of the construction sites. He was also drinking before his disappearance. Royce Hall in particular was close by and undergoing significant renovations. They had cadaver sniffing dogs at the sites but didn't reveal anything. He is, sadly, probably in the foundations of one of the buildings.

The dorm intruder theory was debunked but it does make you aware of how easy it is to create a story that conspiracy theorists will latch on to.

by Anonymousreply 241December 6, 2019 4:37 PM

R53 is unbelievably creepy. Gives me the chills

by Anonymousreply 242December 6, 2019 4:55 PM

Everett Ruess was a poet and artist who vanished in the Utah desert 85 years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 243December 6, 2019 9:44 PM

There has been speculation about Everett Ruess being bi or gay

by Anonymousreply 244December 7, 2019 1:24 AM

Michele "Shelly" Miscavige, wife of Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige. She was last seen in public in August 2007. Actress Leah Remini, a former Scientologist and vocal critic of the organization, filed a missing person report regarding Miscavige with the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in 2013. According to a story in the Los Angeles Times based on information from an anonymous LAPD source, the LAPD contacted Miscavige and subsequently closed the case.

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by Anonymousreply 245December 7, 2019 7:00 AM

It was suspected that Richard Cox left West Point because he was gay. Detectives took his roommate to gay bars in NYC looking for Richard and George.

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by Anonymousreply 246December 7, 2019 5:11 PM

^^^ "George" was probably his lover and they ran off to start a life together.

by Anonymousreply 247December 7, 2019 6:00 PM

Mary Shotwell Little, a 25-year-old secretary in Atlanta, disappeared in 1965 after having dinner with friends. Her car had blood stains inside, and her underwear was found neatly folded between the front seats.

Diane Shields, who was hired as Mary's replacement at the bank where she worked, was found murdered two years later. Both cases remain unsolved. Before she was killed, Shields supposedly told friends that she had information about Little's disappearance and was cooperating with police (the two never met, however).

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by Anonymousreply 248December 7, 2019 6:34 PM

Have we covered Leah Roberts yet? I think the guy she was talking to in the restaurant is the culprit. Poor girl.

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by Anonymousreply 249December 7, 2019 6:50 PM

Is Leah Roberts the girl who took off in her car for Seattle?? I think I saw a show about her case. Her car was found in the woods but she was last seen talking to some guy in a restaurant.

by Anonymousreply 250December 8, 2019 3:34 PM

Yes, r250. Very sad story. She certainly met the wrong man and was a victim of homocide.

by Anonymousreply 251December 8, 2019 4:29 PM

Ronald Tammen was last seen in the hallway of his dorm. He told someone who was passing by that he heard a strange noise outside his room.

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by Anonymousreply 252December 9, 2019 8:22 PM

There is some speculation that Tammen may have been bi or gay

by Anonymousreply 253December 9, 2019 9:03 PM

R248 I never heard of those cases. Very haunting.

by Anonymousreply 254December 9, 2019 9:19 PM

Dorothy Arnold. I think she just said fuck it all and walked out of her life. She left home with $600-$800 supposedly to buy a dress but only purchased candy and a book. Which are things you would buy if you expected to board a train.

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by Anonymousreply 255December 10, 2019 5:27 PM

R255, how did you hear about her?

by Anonymousreply 256December 10, 2019 9:52 PM

I've been interested in missing persons since I was a kid. Dorothy was one of the first cases I read about. I think it's the oldest unsolved case in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 257December 10, 2019 9:59 PM

Paula Welden, disappeared from Bennington College in the 1940s

by Anonymousreply 258December 10, 2019 10:05 PM

R256, SHE'S THE GENTLEMAN AT R255'S "EX-WIFE." METHINKS WE ARE OF "KINDRED SPIRIT" AND "CAME OUT" LATER IN LIFE. BLESS, BILL.

by Anonymousreply 259December 10, 2019 10:56 PM

R257, have you ever done any investigating yourself?

by Anonymousreply 260December 10, 2019 11:00 PM

R255 She obviously died during an abortion. She had the equivalent of 800 bucks in cash, but charged candy and a book. Sounds like she took a train to have the procedure and died. Lots of women bled out from botched abortions back then.

by Anonymousreply 261December 11, 2019 2:38 AM

[quote] She had the equivalent of 800 bucks in cash, but charged candy and a book.

Women's in that time had "pin money" (like an allowance) for their clothes. If she charged at a store where her family had an account--the way it was done back then--she could save her money all to herself and have the father charged for the candy. Which was the point of the thing.

[quote] Sounds like she took a train to have the procedure and died.

I considered this.

She told everyone she would be home for dinner. If we suppose that she thought she would survive the abortion and be home for dinner, I don't think she would have been dawdling with books and candy and chit-chats with friends AND a train ride out of town AND a train ride back. If I were in her shoes and trying to have an unknown operation, I would be out of the house at the crack of dawn, to get it over and done with, so as to be back for dinner.

I think it's most credible that she was murdered by someone.

by Anonymousreply 262December 11, 2019 3:00 AM

***women, not women's. I started the sentence differently.

by Anonymousreply 263December 11, 2019 3:01 AM

Um, no, that's probably not what happened. More likely she voluntarily left. I seriously doubt an abortion cost $800 back then. She was probably saving up to start a new life.

by Anonymousreply 264December 11, 2019 3:01 AM

Dorothy was somewhat of a rebel. She had snuck away before to spend a week in Boston with her boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 265December 11, 2019 8:17 AM

R261 Yes, my great grandmother was among them. RIP Alice.

by Anonymousreply 266December 11, 2019 2:05 PM

[quote] Dorothy was somewhat of a rebel.

Well, life was difficult for extremely sheltered women of that time who had no money of their own and could not get a job because they had no skills--and there were not many jobs for educated women. Remember House of Mirth? Remember the Barretts of Wimpole Street?

Too bad that she was so discouraged after only two submissions to magazine: it's a shame she didn't know or talk to Edith Wharton, who was from the same background but a generation older, who submitted dozens of rejected stories.

And the stupid/wiley father, who ended up spending $6 million trying to find a dead body instead of just letting her marry the ne'er-do'well she had her heart set on.

by Anonymousreply 267December 11, 2019 6:16 PM

Hey R170, any updates on your gym friend?

by Anonymousreply 268December 11, 2019 6:23 PM

R244 why do people think he was bisexual or gay? I had not heard of him until now.

by Anonymousreply 269December 15, 2019 2:16 AM

R269, he had some "interesting" passages in his diary...

by Anonymousreply 270December 15, 2019 2:51 AM

What were they about R270? Having sex with men?

by Anonymousreply 271January 4, 2020 2:22 PM

R271, there were lots of crossed out words and the like, as if he was hiding something. References to being a "freakish person"

by Anonymousreply 272January 4, 2020 4:52 PM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 273March 6, 2020 2:07 AM

All of the Gacy victims. A lot were bisexual and gay teens, bi and gay male prostitutes, and bi and gay kids who would go to Chicago to party or get away from their parents, and wound up being murdered or kidnapped by Gacy or his accomplices and raped, tortured, and murdered. Dean Corll and his accomplices were just as bad.

by Anonymousreply 274March 27, 2020 2:28 AM

And the sad thing is, some of his victim still aren't identified after all these years R274.

by Anonymousreply 275March 27, 2020 3:25 AM

Thanks, or maybe not, R274. How did I not know about Dean Corll?

by Anonymousreply 276March 27, 2020 10:59 AM

R276 read the book the man with the candy by Jack Olson. Or maybe not right now with the coronavirus quarantine. It is extremelly graphic and goes into details of how those poor kids and teens, and men were tortured. It would not surprise me at all to learn that there are more of their victims out there or that the Corll accomplices murdered other boys, or even teen girls, or that Dean had murdered people in CA like he told David Brooks.

by Anonymousreply 277April 1, 2020 3:06 AM

R187 I found that case to be sad for some reason. I think the older guy that Huisentruit was friends with killed her and got of the body quickly. There was a theory several years back about a serial rapist living in that area at the time possibly being involved in her disappearance. But, based on articles in the past few years, law enforcement seems to believe Huisentruit's friend had something to do with the disappearance.

by Anonymousreply 278April 1, 2020 3:37 AM

R378 It's a very frustrating case.

by Anonymousreply 279April 1, 2020 5:03 AM

bump

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