Soon Austin Will Pass San Jose To Be #10

Can they secede now?

Been there, done that.

Buffalo BARELY made it into the top ten and hasn't been in there since 1920. Buffalo will soon be smaller than Rochester. It's a junior Detroit.

San Jose is a multicultural hole

What's the fourth Texas city?

Meaningless. All that matters are metropolitan areas. Austin is actually more like a suburb of San Antonio than its own city.

In my mind, San Francisco and Philadelphia are about the same size. In reality, Philadelphia has almost twice the population.

Yet, both surpass Houston when it comes to everything that matters in a world class city.

I fucking HATE Austin!

San Jose is boring.

A lot of the new metros are a collection of suburbs in search of a city.

It can't be sustained.

Prefer San Antonio over Austin. Largest cities in Texas: El Paso, San Antonio, Austin, Houston -- not necessarily in that order. If Trump becomes president, El Paso will drop from the top 50.

Living hell is Houston in summer.

R11 You forgot Dallas, dear.

Texas cities in order of population: Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Fort Worth.

Only Houston comes close to being a world-class city.

Keep Austin weird!

R14, it's too late.

1900 NametPopulation

1tLondon, United Kingdomt6,480,000

2tNew York, United Statest4,242,000

3tParis, Francet3,330,000

4tBerlin, Germanyt2,707,000

5tChicago, United Statest1,717,000

6tVienna, Austriat1,698,000

7tTokyo, Japant1,497,000

8tSt. Petersburg, Russiat1,439,000

9tManchester, United Kingdomt1,435,000

10tPhiladelphia, United Statest1,418,000

R10 We seem to have made it work.

Bigger is bluer.

From all these numbers, it appears Texas will again be part of Mexico before California. Being first is the most important factor for most Texans. Personally, I find it regrettable.

When has being bigger ever meant being better? NEVER. Especially when it involves anything to do with Texas.

Keep an eye on us....we're on the move!!

I'm not a Texan, but I like Texas. I lived most of my teen years in Texas and loved both the state and the people I got to know.

Cities which have lost more than half their population - Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Gary, Youngstown

Cities which have lost between a third and a half of their population - Baltimore, Flint, Scranton. Dayton, Cincinnati, Canton, Newark. Wilmington, Akron, Syracuse

Cities which have lost more than a quarter of their population - Philadelphia, Chicago, Washington DC, Minneapolis

The year House of Reps. was permanently set at 435 seats was 1910. The 3 largest delegations were NY (43), PA (36) and IL (27).

In 2020, the largest delegations are expected to be CA (53), TX (39) and FL (28).

It's the other way around. R6. San Anto had a sleepy small town feel till a couple of years ago.

I find all this incredibly depressing. I'm old enough to remember Texas as a mostly rural state, though the shift from country to town was already well underway when I was a kid. I can understand wanting to leave your tiny burg for the bright lights, especially if you're gay and your growing up years fell in a time of drought, low stock and crop prices and in the petroleum bust periods. But seeing the little towns gobbled up by megalopolises is more of a downer than a thousand repeat viewings of The Last Picture Show.

Stop breeding so much, heteros!

Texas has cities now? Will wonders never cease?

Nobody cares about the Texas cities.

Who can trust their census anyway? It's not like any of them know how to count.

[quote]Meaningless. All that matters are metropolitan areas.

No Metro areas are not. LA metro area extends all the way to the Nevada border. Towns next to Nevada are NOT really part of LA.

Texas still needs another [bold] 12 million people [/bold] to populate their state before they catch up to California...

[quote]Texas still needs another 12 million people to populate their state before they catch up to California...

We're on it!

We're on it, too.

The Largest Texas Cities according to the latest US Census Estimates

Houston 2,296,224

San Antone 1,469,845

Dallas 1,300,092

Austin 931,820

Fort Worth 833,319

El Paso 681,124

Arlington 388,125

Corpus Christ 324,074

Plano 283,558

Laredo 255,473

[quote]Meaningless. All that matters are metropolitan areas.

Correct

[quote]Austin is actually more like a suburb of San Antonio than its own city.

Laughably false. Austin is very much its own city and has been a hot place to be for well over a decade, has been growing like mad.

And the person who sad metro areas don't matter is delusional. City limits are complete arbitrary. Based on "city limits" Oklahoma City is bigger than Atlanta or Miami. Which is fucking meaningless, they have a massive sprawling city limit of 600 sq miles and by comparison the Miami city limits are 36 sq mi.

You are just drawing a imaginary line that tells you nothing about the urban area.

Austin is actually the 33rd biggest metro in the US.

The actual top ten are

New York LA Chicago Dallas Houston DC Philly Miami Atlanta Boston

Actually the most accurate is the "Urbanized Area"

Austin ranked 37th in 2010.

That said the urbanized areas still have problems. Like they append Palm Beach and Ft. Lauderdale to Miami despite very little commuting but separate San Jose from San Francisco, and that' s just not reality, and it keeps the Bay Area out of the top 10.

Austin is hipster trash, all tattoos and skinny jeans and HOLES in their ears as the City Drag.

Dallas is the only REAL city in Texas!

By 2030, all four of those cities will be so hot year-round that they'll be nearly uninhabitable.

I saw that too R36. Bay Area would be at #5 if San Jose and San Francisco were combined.

[quote]Austin is hipster trash, all tattoos and skinny jeans and HOLES in their ears as the City Drag.

You mean it is a city young people actually want to move to?

I went to college at Rice, which is in Texas. Tons of people got jobs in Houston, tons of people got jobs in Austin. People by and large did not want to move to Dallas. Most of the people I know that did move there ended up not liking it and moving away, it's anecdotal, but it means something.

What isn't anecdoctal, is that Austin is literally the most popular city among millenials. It has the highest percentage of its popular in that demographic. Houston comes in at #10. Dallas did not make the list.

^^^ "...literally the most popular city with millennials..."

That does it, Ma, pack up the wagon and hitch up the mules, we're heading up to Montana.

What makes Houston and Austin more desirable than Dallas?

Austin is (or, rather, was) a cool little arty city in the middle of a very conservative state. I loved it for many years, heat aside, but now it is becoming as corrupted and overblown as Dallas -- and absolutely unaffordable, especially for those artists that gave it a nice vibe. Depressing as shit, really.

Texas is such a gross place, Everyone must be desperate to leave.

Lots of people have left California for Texas.

Texas has no state income tax. A selling point for many.

There's no electric fence at the state line. Go. And take the Californians with you.

Drive friendly! It's the Texas way!

Don't be fooled. Wait until you see the Property taxes, the hotel taxes, allllll of them. They make up for no personal income tax and fast.

I'm not fooled. I'd rather pay high taxes and live in paradise.

AND have a movie business. What is left of Austin's has all but dried away thanks to no incentives. Save for maybe one film a year being made by diehards (Linklater).

Houston is a hot bed of poz guys - almost as bad as Palm Springs now.

Overloaded with pathetic Millennials - yet another reason to hate Austin!

[quote]What makes Houston and Austin more desirable than Dallas?

They are perceived as having more character (especially Austin obviously). Dallas is perceived as being bland and soulless.

R33, who the fuck still says "San Antone"? You must be like 100 years old.

San Jose is home to high paying, booming Sillicon Valley. Austin is home to the University of Texas and some music festivals. Median household income: Austin $63,603 and that is taxpayer supported, good government jobs! San Jose is $87,210 from the private sector pretty much by itself. So Austin is "passing" San Jose into the big leagues? More proletarians does not make the future unless they organize. And in Austin, they are not organizing.

If you're going to combine San Jose with San Francisco, you have to combine Washington and Baltimore and Boston and Providence.

Metro areas are county based which is totally inaccurate. Especially counties in CA which are enormously large and take in far too much population.

The only real way to do it is population density or people per square mile, once you factor out any non livable areas of the city.

No San Jose and San Francisco are connected by commuter rail and have hundreds of thousands commuting between each other's metro areas every day. If you go from Palo Alto to the Stanford shopping center you have gone from San Jose to San Francisco, for example. . Baltimore and Washington is arguable, but Boston and Providence are not.

That's the point of the urbanized area, which is supposed to be on non-county, more realistic criteria. But it doesn't work in the case of San Jose and San Francisco because they are still using the county boundary because there is no real separation. Do people from Jupiter ever go to Miami?I Doubt it.

I just got back from visiting some friends in Austin. The people I met were nice. So I liked the people but not the city. Traffic is often a parking lot and the only food they like is BBQ. I didn't check out the bars, wonder if those are any good.

[quote]Especially counties in CA which are enormously large and take in far too much population.

Only in southern California.

I just had some friends move to Austin and after nearly a year they hate it. I think they moved there because one of them has family there. There are a few cool places to visit in TX, but after a few days, gotta go!

So 4 of the biggest cities in Texas--Dallas, Fort Worth, Arlington and Plano are in the DFW metroplex . Interesting!

You sound poor.

Fort Worth is on it's way to passing San Jose too. By 2030 Texas will have half the top ten cities.

New York, LA, Houston, Chicago, Phoenix, San Antonio, Philadelphia, San Diego, Austin, Fort Worth.

the link in r34 has Boston as #10, and in the far right column it mentions Providence. Then it has Providence at #38 with Boston in the far right column. That's fucked up, kids.

What R6 said (over two years ago!)

It's the metro area that matters

Sunbelt cities often include most of their suburbs so the city itself has a large population.

Boston, OTOH, has a relatively small city population, but metro Boston is huge. SF too.

San Jose is not a real city, it is sort of an outgrowth of all the south bay.

Washington is closing in on 700K this year and over 5M for metro area. A huge turn around from 570K when I moved here around 2000.

Cities like Nashville and Jacksonville may seem big but the swallowed the whole county which to me is bullshit.

I've noticed that the Texas skylines seem dates. It seems that no really striking buildings have been built in Houston or Dallas since the 90's.

[quote] San Jose is not a real city, it is sort of an outgrowth of all the south bay.

Agreed.

It's part of metro San Fransciso, the greater Bay Area, whatever you want to call it.

Austin has 996,000 estimated now and with San Jose shrinking it is likely to happen by Jan 2021

Still a big nothing of a place.

I think the problem is that a lot of people don't even know the way to San Jose.

Now that companies have finally learned that much of the work in tech can be done anywhere change is inevitable. Dell is based in Austin and lots of tech in Houston and DFW. No state income tax is a huge incentive. --Former Texas resident.