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The Rialto Report: Porn Lies

Thanks to those guys in the classic porn threads I found this. I really wanted to hear the stories about some of the guys who did the hot porn. (I hate the modern stuff)

George Payne who did both gay and straight now claims he had a stunt butt.

Rick Savage claims that the double penetration on Grafenburg spot...he could not even feel, total bullshit Harry Reems cock is rubbing against him. Also they have their cocks together as they get sucked.

All of these guys are a little bit bi, but want to re-write history. Dudes...we can see the films.

by Anonymousreply 18704/30/2019

I think that time erodes most peoples memories as well and George was a notorious coke head at that time. In fact that destroyed his relationship with Vanessa del Rio (he stole from her). I think George was being honest about the stunt butt thing (although he does try and downplay his career in gay porn somewhat). I've heard it was the late David Morris (who claimed to have gotten 10 grand for that shoot - haha right) that stunted for George in Centurians of Rome where he bottoms. The ass didn't look like George's - it wasn't as hairy as his, it was fuller and rounder and it's done in a close angle. George didn't have much of an ass at that point. That shoot was a nightmare, everyone was coked out of their minds and porn director Carter Stevens said it was hell for him to try to edit it into a decent movie.

The biggest BS interview on that site was from Sharon Mitchell. She lies a lot and like to twist stuff around to make herself look better. I think she might actually believe a lot it as being true though.

The Hyapatia Lee one was a close second. Her trying to lie about trying to fake her death and bilk her fans was amusing though.

by Anonymousreply 106/05/2016

I saw him get fucked full body in gay loops, so why in one film would he need a stunt butt?

by Anonymousreply 206/05/2016

I didn't think he ever bottomed, only topped in the other gay porn he did. Those loops and scenes were definitely not faked. I would've liked to seen him bottom though, he was very hot back in the 70s.

For what it's worth, I think he's bi and never really accepted it. Straight Porn Director Shaun Costello realized this, and would put him in scenes with multiple guys in it. You can see him checking out David Ruby and another muscle guy in his scene in the movie Hot Dreams.

by Anonymousreply 306/05/2016

He did bottom in some loops. I always thought he was one of the many gay men in straight porn like Jamie Gillis.

I am listening to the Jerry Butler interview now...so uncensored. Very fun.

by Anonymousreply 406/05/2016

Jerry is defiantly a character. He names some names that he didn't in his book but didn't go into detail like he did in his book on some things. One of times he "indulged" with another man was with theatrical agent Michael Hartig (who was a lover of Jamie Gillis). He let Hartig suck him off and then he reciprocated. But it didn't help his legit career out, like he hoped it would.

He also finally named Phil Carey as one of the actors trying to fuck him when he worked on One Life To Live as a day player. Like Hartig, Carey had already died before the interview took place so he finally felt safe naming names with worrying about possibly being sued by them.

by Anonymousreply 506/05/2016

Where did George Payne deny it? I listened to the Rialto Report podcast and he never said anything like that. And the point was to hire performers that could perform. These shoots didn't t have the money to double cast. No one would hire an actor that didn't want to do it. Ridiculous thought. Even when Eric Edwards, who never did a straight scene was asked if he had a double in a scene where he took a strap on, he almost sounded offended and said no he did it because the girl turned him on so much.

by Anonymousreply 606/05/2016

R6 He admitted he didn't do the bottoming scene in Centurians of Rome where his character is anally raped. It's discussed right before the 15 minute mark. Like I said earlier, others have said it was David Morris who was the stunt butt in the movie.

They didn't like doing stunt doubling if at all possible, but it did happen sometimes if actors refused to do certain things and they didn't have any other choice.

by Anonymousreply 706/05/2016

R6 it was clearly in the interview.

But he did bottom fully and without doubles in some loops.

I too think he is fully bi, and fully in denial.

by Anonymousreply 806/05/2016

Payne was a pretty good looking guy

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by Anonymousreply 906/05/2016

Love Ashley West the moderator's voice. Can't find a thing about him. Those are great podcasts and lots of stories are so outrageous you couldn't make them up. "The Centurions Of Rome" financed by stolen Brink's truck money? Wow.

by Anonymousreply 1006/06/2016

Ashley 'West' and April 'Hall' are married. He is an investment banker. They're both wealthy and do this as a side project. They've been working on a documentary about the NY porn scene for a long time now that was going to be centered around the late Tina Russell, but who knows if it will ever be released since they're getting more information out via their website now.

by Anonymousreply 1106/06/2016

Most of them lie, Nick Capra insist he is gay yet has made half a dozen tranny movies and hypes up how much he loves sex with trannies, but there is also a rumor he was dating the woman who owns the gay and tranny studio he now exclusively works for.

by Anonymousreply 1206/06/2016

You think Jerry Butler would still be into letting a guy service him because I most definitely would?

by Anonymousreply 1306/07/2016

R13 why not ask him. He works out at NYSC on 80th in Manhattan during the mid day.

by Anonymousreply 1406/07/2016

R13 He still seems bitter about gays propositioning constantly him when he was trying to make it in "legit" so I'd say probably not.

R14 Interesting he's working out mid day, I guess he may have finally retired from his job as a bus driver. He said in his 2014 Rialto Report interview that he had in 20 years in, which was enough to retire on.

by Anonymousreply 1506/08/2016

R14 He did not fully retire. He took his 20 years and got another job.

He now does a school bus. Morning picks ups mid day work out then afternoon home stops.

I knew him for a while before he told me to google him under his porn name. Paul is sweet and funny and kind. Very likeable man.

by Anonymousreply 1606/08/2016

Does Ashely look as good as he sounds?

by Anonymousreply 1706/09/2016

R16, would you consider him fuckable, too?

by Anonymousreply 1806/09/2016

R17 I'll let you judge that one. Here is a photo of him. They've posted photos of April on the website before but none of him.

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by Anonymousreply 1906/10/2016

He has a fuckable voice.

by Anonymousreply 2006/10/2016

They just put up a feature on Tiffany Clark, a (DL favorite) Nanette Fabray lookalike. I could never take my eyes off that bad nose job when she was in seemingly every other porn movie in the early to mid 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 2106/12/2016

Peter North is another one who tried to claim a "stunt ass" was used.

by Anonymousreply 2206/12/2016

Peter North tried denying he did gay porn period. He once tried claiming he only did solo stuff. Then later tried to claim the gay sex acts he did was done with camera trickery. BS of course because. Director William Higgins claimed in an interview that North actually provided his eager ass to stunt for other stars who wouldn't do anal.

He got very angry when people would bring up his past in gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 2306/12/2016

Yes, Sharon Mitchell's interview rubbed me the wrong way. She also sounded high on pills. Major lifetime attitude problem. I've read elsewhere online she embezzled from AIM, which contributed to it getting shut down. Plus calling herself a "doctor." Pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 2412/23/2016

Herschel Savage's interview was pretty funny when he kept calling his fellow porn whores gutter trash and how nobody in the porn business has any "honor."

by Anonymousreply 2508/13/2018

Both of Herschel's wife's were porn stars, so he didn't seem to mind wallowing in the "trash" much.

Sad that Jerry Butler died since this thread was started. Johnnie Keyes and Jennifer Welles also died this year.

Sharon Mitchell had some type of health crisis earlier this year too, but pulled through. George Payne has been said no to be in the best of health lately and has been struggling finacially since his wife became ill of and cancer and later died of cancer late last year. R. Bolla is not well at all either.

Shame so many are struggling when other people are still making money off of them decades later.

by Anonymousreply 2608/13/2018

R. Bolla/Robert Kerman died earlier today. He became very ill a few weeks ago and had to be hospitalized and slipped into a diabetic coma. He was a sweet man and a good actor. I'd imagine The Rialto Report will re-run his podcast tomorrow and acknowledge his death.

by Anonymousreply 2712/27/2018

Peter North has his ass fucked by some very big cocks in his gay porn movies and there was no way it was "stunt" anything.

by Anonymousreply 2812/27/2018

R28 I believe he first tried to claim he only did solo stuff but when confronted that he was fucked by men (and also fucked some too) he tried claiming it was faked by the filmakers. Not to mention there is video and photo with his face in plain view of him being fucked. He gets angry and defensive when his gay porn work is brought up and avoids talking about it whenever possible.

Supposedly William Higgins claimed he continued to "stunt butted" for guys who didn't want to bottom for a while after moved over into straight porn.

by Anonymousreply 2912/27/2018

It is a fascinating time. G. Spelvin said that many of these men from Paul Thomas to Jamie Gillis were gay in private but straight for pay.

by Anonymousreply 3012/27/2018

Interesting about Paul Thomas. He did one gay scene early on. He’s an avid cocksucker.

He also was in the movie version of Jesus Christ Superstar back in the day. I think his real name is Phillip Toobus.

by Anonymousreply 3112/28/2018

Paul and Jamie weren't gay. The had sex with men off camera sometimes, pre-AIDS days anyway, but they both heavily leaning straight bisexuals. Both had big sex drives and were down for all kinds of varied sex acts and partners.

There were some that were gay like Wade Nichols, Marc Stevens, and Zebedy Colt that only had sex with women on camera for money.

by Anonymousreply 3212/28/2018

re: the rilato report .

the seed money used to create the film company mira....... max was made from a sale of a property located in the red light district to holiday inn, a 40 million usd transaction which was big time money back then

by Anonymousreply 3312/28/2018

Tom Byron is broke and working as an Uber driver.

by Anonymousreply 3412/28/2018

The Daily Beat picked up their Centurians Of Rome article and a movie production company brought the screen rights to make a movie based on their article. Don't know how much of the movie will deal the making of CoR though.

Robber, Porno Producer, Fugitive: Daily Beast Article On Colorful George Bosque Gets Movie Deal With ‘Hacksaw Ridge’ Producer David Permut & Valparaiso Pictures

EXCLUSIVE: In a competitive situation, Valparaiso Pictures and Permut Presentations have snapped up screen rights to Ashley and April Spicer’s hot-read Daily Beast article Centurians Of Rome: How a…

by Anonymousreply 3504/10/2019

There are plenty of scenes of George Payne sucking cock.

Was that a stunt mouth also?

by Anonymousreply 3604/10/2019

He didn't deny that. Just that he never got fucked up the ass. I don't he's in denial to the degree Peter North is. In past interviews he's said good things about Casey Donovan and Jack Wrangler, so he's not that hung up about that gay part of his career.

Jeff Stryker admitted it wasn't him doing the fucking his first few movies because he couldn't get it up. The close-up, tight shots are a big giveaway.

by Anonymousreply 3704/10/2019

George Payne is lying.

For some reason, it's important for you to vehemently deny that George Payne ever had a cock us his ass on film, as well as perpetuate his virgin butt status in post after post for several months.

How homophobic you are.

by Anonymousreply 3804/10/2019

R38 Doesn't change what I think about him (or anyone else) if he did or not. Did I ever say taking it up the ass was a bad thing? Nope.

He said he didn't and I believe him about that. That didn't look like his ass in Centurians of Rome and it's been said David Morris stunted for him. George had a small muscle ass and the person bottoming had a hairer, fuller bubble ass. Morris bottomed in CoR and some of his other bi and gay porn, so that makes it even more likely it's him. And a big name star like George bottoming for the first time, why all the darkly shot, tight close-ups? They only shots showing his face in view are above the ass and the guy is up to high during those shots to be fucking him. And they'd surely get full shots with face for the movie and stills for promotion in the magazines. And that movie was highly promoted. Forget the logic of it.

Just watch the scene 35 mins in,

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by Anonymousreply 3904/10/2019

The ass getting fucked doesn't look any different than George Payne's. No, there is no crystal clear "stunt butt" being used. Sorry, Peter North II.

by Anonymousreply 4004/10/2019

I loved finding Jamie Gillis and Paul Thomas in gay porn. Not to mention uber-Daddy Paul Baressi.

by Anonymousreply 4104/10/2019

John Travolta's ex-lover, Paul Baressi.

by Anonymousreply 4204/10/2019

Are there any extant videos of Paul doing gay porn?

by Anonymousreply 4304/10/2019

R6 Do you know the title up the movie or Eric Edwards gets fucked with a strap-on?

by Anonymousreply 4404/11/2019

Yes...Paul Baressi gets sucked off and fucks a guy in a Malibu reel. He also gets sucked off in Men of the Midway. There are other gay movies where he jerks off.

by Anonymousreply 4504/11/2019

Are any of the guys from L.A. Tool and Die and Kansas City Trucking Company still around?

by Anonymousreply 4604/11/2019

R46 Paul Barresi and Joe Gage are for sure. I'd say most are probably dead though, sadly enough. It's possible others could still be alive and leading low profile lives out of the public eye. Most retired porn stars keep low profiles.

by Anonymousreply 4704/11/2019

Obviously you haven't bee on the return of "Steve Collins" thread. Sometimes they RISE again

by Anonymousreply 4804/13/2019

Fascinating site, fascinating thread.

Paul Thomas interview he talks about sex with men.

by Anonymousreply 4904/14/2019

I know Eric Edwards and I've never found him to be homophobic; in fact, he appreciates his gay fans. He has nothing but great things to say about George Payne, including the fact that it was well-known that George was bisexual. Same with Peter North, who Edwards directed in a few films in the 80s. The only thing he ever said about North was that he wasn't a great actor, but nobody could deliver a cumshot like him, and he could always be relied upon to "give it his all" in that department, so that's why Edwards hired him.

He did not, however, know that Paul Thomas swung both ways. I sent him the link to Thomas' 70s porn loop, and Eric was fascinated by it. He said he was surprised at how much Thomas got into it!

Oh, and as a side note - in the 90s, as Edwards' career was winding down, he worked for a while as an editor for Catalina. He told me he always thought gay porn was much more passionate than straight porn, and in fact, he wrote and directed a few straight porn videos that he tried to model on the Catalina style.

And here's Paul Thomas' gay loop - "Nature's Man."

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by Anonymousreply 5004/14/2019

Straight for pay is a real thing, unlike gay for pay which is pure fiction.

by Anonymousreply 5104/14/2019

Exactly R51. Real heterosexual guys DO NOT, WILL NOT, HAVE NOT, AND NEVER WILL have sex with another man unless it is by threat or death or through extreme physical force.

by Anonymousreply 5204/14/2019

I always found it funny that so many people insist that gay for pay doesn't exist in any shape or form. People have killed other people for much less than what they'd get for a porn scene. Heaven forbid they have sex with a person (or entire sex) they're not attracted to.

However with that said, I think that of the performers that claim to be G4P are bisexial (some probably even totally gay). Many do it for marketing purposes as well. Thinking it makes them more desirable and be able to get higher scene rates. There are certainly some G4P performers looking like they rather be anywhere else. I'd rather watch paint dry than watch another Cody Cummings video.

by Anonymousreply 5304/14/2019

R6 Eric Edwards' friend here again. About that strap-on scene - he told me he did for two reasons:

1) He really was turned on by the two girls in the scene, which made him more willing to do it

2) He got to film the scene in his own bed in his apartment in New York City. It was a bed he made himself, and doing the scene in that bed made him more comfortable.

by Anonymousreply 5404/14/2019

There's a scene in the 1975 movie "Every Inch a Lady" where Jamie Gillis and Harry Reems are fucking a woman and Jamie starts to get a little handsy on Harry's butt. Then he gets up, grabs some anal beads, and sticks 'em up Harry's ass while Harry's fucking the girl. Kind of odd, verging on bisexual, and kind of hot, too, in a 1970s cheesy way.

The weirdness starts at about the 32-minute mark.

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by Anonymousreply 5504/14/2019

There was a lot of energy between some of the men in 70s porn. Great DP scenes, an occasional dick in the mouth of a guy etc.

by Anonymousreply 5604/14/2019

R54 What is the name of the film where Edwards takes the dildo?

by Anonymousreply 5704/16/2019

Old Porn stars are desperate for money. I went to one of those autograph shows with a friend and Marilyn Chambers was there signing books (she wrote a book). I went so I could take pictures for my friend. We waited in line. When we got to the front, he bought her book, paid extra to have it signed and take a picture with her. She looks at me and said, "aren't you going t buy a book" I smiled and said, "no I am just here to take pictures for him." She said, "no picture unless you buy a book." I said, "I don't want a picture." She said, "I mean for him." At that point, the whole line started giving her shit. She quickly realized she was jeopardizing her money grab and said "take the fucking picture."

by Anonymousreply 5804/16/2019

r55 He doesn't put the beads in, she does. (He removes them.)

by Anonymousreply 5904/16/2019

R58 Are you sure that wasn't Seka instead of Marilyn. Marilyn "wrote" a book - back in 70s. Seka did more recently and I've heard of her being snippy to fans in ways like this. Marilyn was usually more tactful.

by Anonymousreply 6004/16/2019

R57 I don't remember, but I'll ask him.

by Anonymousreply 6104/16/2019

R57 I e-mailed Eric - the name of the movie is "Midnight Desires" from 1976. Here's what he had to say about it:

"The only reason I agreed to do that scene was because it was in my home. Plus, I was turned on to Bree Anthony and that blonde newbie—her one and only scene. And my bed was gorgeous—all walnut wood, like a large 7-foot tall cube with a mirror on top. Going inside of it was like immersing myself into my own little world."

by Anonymousreply 6204/17/2019

Thank you man!!

by Anonymousreply 6304/18/2019

Straight for pay is a real thing.

I knew a director of loops from the 70s and he told me that he looked for gay men who had an exhibitionist streak because the straight guys popped off too fast.

by Anonymousreply 6404/20/2019

Sharon Mitchell's 'doctorate' is laughable. Her doctorate came from the sham non-accredited diploma mill operation in San Francisco called 'Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality'. Her testing clinic was shut down in 2011 after a privacy lawsuit was filed against it after their computers were hacked and private info on all the porn stars they'd tested was stolen.

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by Anonymousreply 6504/20/2019

Al Goldstein said Jamie Gillis was by far the most perverted man he's ever known. He said there was no sex act or act of perversion Gillis was opposed to engaging in.

by Anonymousreply 6604/20/2019

I saw Jamie Gillis at a rest stop in Connecticut years ago. So sorry I didn't try to have sex with him.

by Anonymousreply 6704/20/2019

[quote]Sharon Mitchell's 'doctorate' is laughable. Her doctorate came from the sham non-accredited diploma mill operation in San Francisco called 'Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality'.

STILL more legitimate than Trump University.

by Anonymousreply 6804/20/2019

Once Matt Ramsey became Peter North, he used to bring his boyfriend with him to sets. His BF would rim him into ecstasy just before the cumshot so he could hose down a pair of tits or a gash.

by Anonymousreply 6904/20/2019

R69 I've heard this story about Peter North bringing his boyfriend to sets, and I asked Eric Edwards about this, since he had directed North in several movies. Edwards said he doesn't remember North bringing any guys to the set. He did, however, say that North was always a good performer in male-male-female scenes.

by Anonymousreply 7004/20/2019

Who are these performers? Did they perform in the 19th century? I've never heard of them.

by Anonymousreply 7104/20/2019

R71 Google is a magical thing.

by Anonymousreply 7204/20/2019

[quote]Exactly [R51]. Real heterosexual guys DO NOT, WILL NOT, HAVE NOT, AND NEVER WILL have sex with another man unless it is by threat or death or through extreme physical force.

r52, does it make gay people feel better to think of these guys as bisexual? What does it matter if they identify as straight or bisexual? At the end of the day NONE of the men mentioned here, that people are frothing at the mouth over as bisexual, had any real interest in men. All of the men mentioned here, from Payne to Baressi to Gage, all ended up in relationships/marriages to women. For all intents and purposes these men live straight lives.

by Anonymousreply 7304/20/2019

[quote] [R71] Google is a magical thing.

I thought your generation had barely mastered the slide rule.

by Anonymousreply 7404/20/2019

who are these old skanks hoes

by Anonymousreply 7504/20/2019

I would still do Peter North in a heartbeat!

by Anonymousreply 7604/20/2019

R71 2019 PN ?? Hell No! Fat injected into as formerly beautiful penis ruining it. And don't get me started on the cyborg looking facelift.

by Anonymousreply 7704/21/2019

R72 Living a straight life and married to a woman does not mean you are not gay.

Look at the UWS of NY.

That bit about straight men never having sex with another man is DL bullshit. Most men are flexible under the right circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 7804/21/2019

Excellent documentary about Chuck Holmes, who created Falcon. In the DVD extras, several enlightening interviews with male porn stars like Jeff Stryker and Tom Chase.

Seed Money: The Chuck Holmes Story

Chuck Holmes founded a gay porn empire, then tried to use his fortune to help propel the gay rights movement forward -- only to find that while his money was...

by Anonymousreply 7904/21/2019

This was for R76 2019 PN ?? Hell No! Fat injected into as formerly beautiful penis ruining it!. And don't get me started on the cyborg looking facelift.!!

by Anonymousreply 8004/21/2019

Oh R74, you should have just left that one alone. You were owned, move on.

by Anonymousreply 8104/21/2019

R78 do you have a link to the actual documentary, this link is just a clip with a money grab for funding.

by Anonymousreply 8204/21/2019

I'd let Paul Barressi fuck me even today. Amyone ever have Jeff Stryker?

by Anonymousreply 8304/21/2019

Me too (re: Paul Baressi). The man was unbelievably masculine.

by Anonymousreply 8404/21/2019

[quote]Straight for pay is a real thing.

Just ask Johnny Sins.

by Anonymousreply 8504/21/2019

Johnny has a pretty body but is in desperate need of pubes.

by Anonymousreply 8604/21/2019

[quote]I e-mailed Eric

Thanks for the info. He was definitely the most handsome man from the Golden Age. I know from The Rialto Report that he wasn't felling well but if he could he should do some autograph shows. He would do quite well. The Hollywood Show in LA, and Chiller in New Jersey are the best known that aren't Comic Cons.

by Anonymousreply 8704/21/2019

Here is Mr Edwards.....

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by Anonymousreply 8804/21/2019

R85, are you saying Johnny Sins is gay? He could be bi but no way completely gay. He's banged way too many girls for that, and I doubt he's on Viagra constantly.

I'd love to see him do a gay scene with some hot guy, though.

by Anonymousreply 8904/21/2019

[quote]The Daily Beat picked up their Centurians Of Rome article and a movie production company brought the screen rights to make a movie based on their article. Don't know how much of the movie will deal the making of CoR though.

"Centurians Of Rome " is a major part of the story. The guy robbed a Brink's truck and financed a gay porn movie, not just any but a full blown (no pun intended ) costumed drama, shot in the exotic woods of upstate NY.

by Anonymousreply 9004/21/2019

R87 Eric's health is actually pretty good right now. He's battled cancer and come back twice from it. He just had foot surgery a couple of weeks ago, so he's limping along a bit now, but other than that, he's doing well. I've tried to talk him into doing the autograph shows, but the travel/hotel expense vs. what he could expect to get for the autographs has him a little reticent to do them. It'd be nice if the promoters of these events could help foot the travel bill for him. I know he'd love it. He still has a ton of fans out there.

There's talk of a special screening of 1984's "Firestorm" in New York, and if it pans out, they'll fly him out to make an appearance and do an interview at the screening. He's very excited about that possibility.

by Anonymousreply 9104/21/2019

Nice to hear R91. He was truly a part of the golden age of porn.

by Anonymousreply 9204/21/2019

Imagine what you have to look like to catch Jonny Sins eye.

by Anonymousreply 9304/21/2019

R92 He's a great guy; so genuine and warm. He's had a helluva life. I've also been trying to get him to write a book, but so far, haven't had any luck. Let me tell ya, it'd be an incredible read!

by Anonymousreply 9404/21/2019

Eric should do the conventions. The bigger named surviving Golden Age porn actors could supplement their income with appearances. Quite a bit of them are struggling finically. But the traveling to the various locations can take a big chunk of the money they make.

Some people encouraged Jennifer Welles to do conventions, but she didn't. She had enough name value to make some decent money. Perhaps she didn't want to people to see an elderly version of herself. She struggled with money for years before she died. The police in her town harassed her over her animals, which probably stressed her out a lot because she loved her pets. It might have even contributed to her death.

by Anonymousreply 9504/21/2019

R95 Yes, a lot of the "golden age" stars are struggling financially, Eric included. It's a shame most weren't able to profit off the box office and sales of all the movies they appeared in.

If I could get Eric to go to even one show, I bet he'd be hooked, though. He did a "golden age" reunion event back in 2017, and the crowd went crazy for him. He was on cloud nine for weeks afterward.

by Anonymousreply 9604/21/2019

Eric Edwards is probably the most likeable of the classic porn stars, especially because he was so handsome in his movies. He should definitely write a memoir and hopefully get someone to make a movie or a tv show about his career. People love the 70s porn industry since it all seemed so innocent.

by Anonymousreply 9704/21/2019

I can suggest an agent if Eric needs an assistant to help him organize his thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 9804/21/2019

I'm a big fan of the Rialto Report and an avid reader of everything they report on. Mentioned above already is how many of 'the golden age of porn' actors have had major money problems as they've aged. One story they reported on recently was that of Levi Richards (real name Rick Livert).

It seems after porn, he did quite well working in real estate for a time. However. eventually things really went south. At age 71, he got behind on payments for his Manhattan apartment and the city Marshall's arrived to evict him. As they drilled his door to gain entrance, he committed suicide in the bedroom with a gunshot to his head.

His body was not claimed by anybody so his corpse ended up in a mass gave at Hart Island, the city's potter's field located in the Bronx.

Whatever Happened to Levi Richards? The Journey to Hart Island - The Rialto Report

Levi Richards was a good looking, B-list adult film actor in New York. And then he committed suicide.

by Anonymousreply 9904/21/2019

R99 Lots of porn stars seem to get into real estate.

Levi Richards ending was sad. He did well for some time though. I don't know how much he was in debt at the time of his death, but he probably could've moved outside of NYC somewhere and gotten by. But he seemed to have problems with depression and might have been a drinker too since they noted he got drunk while they interviewed him. He was one of male stars that could never find a long term partner despite being good looking and was successful for some time. It's seems like he was probably major loner. He apparently didn't have much (if any) of a relationship with his brother.

by Anonymousreply 10004/21/2019

R98 Yes, please. That might give him a little motivation!

Eric had a pretty good life until he married that fucked up bitch porn star Rene Summers. She and her fellow drug addict boyfriend burned down his house, then literally disappeared, leaving Eric to raise their two sons completely on his own. She's a born again Christian today, of course (eye roll).

Eric had a major problem with alcohol up until two years ago, when he nearly died after a particularly toxic binge. He's been sober since 2017.

by Anonymousreply 10104/21/2019

I wish Charles Dera was straight-for-pay! I would love to see him getting down with a guy

by Anonymousreply 10204/21/2019

Renee Summers was a big downgrade from his previous two lady loves, Chris Jordan and Arcadia Lake. Chris and Arcadia had some acting ability, intelligence and interests outside porn. Renee looked like pudgy, plain, white trash.

He did get two sons out of the relationship with Renee though. So it wasn't all bad or for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 10304/21/2019

[quote]I wish Charles Dera was straight-for-pay! I would love to see him getting down with a guy

Wouldn’t that make him gay-for-pay?

by Anonymousreply 10404/21/2019

R103 Agreed. I asked him why the hell he ever married her; she wasn't at all his physical type, and like you said, she was just trashy. He said he really thought he loved her, but was probably more motivated by the fact that he was in his 40s, he wanted to have a family, and she was willing.

But she was a major drug addict who ultimately abandoned her family and ran off with another junkie. In recent years, she's reached out to Eric via social media, and out of love for his sons, he's never trashed her publicly and has been cordial to her. His oldest son, though, who was old enough to remember what a mess she was when he was a child, wants nothing to do with her. I don't blame him.

Arcadia Lake was really the love of his life. To this day, when he talks about her, he gets very sad.

by Anonymousreply 10504/21/2019

Arcadia seemed to have some deep demons too though and decided give up on life to get back on drugs. She cared enough about Eric to leave him and not drag him down with her. It's a shame she couldn't beat them though because from what Eric said about her was that she was very intelligent and had a lot going for her. Makes me wonder what might have happened to her before they met.

by Anonymousreply 10604/21/2019

R106 She had a rough childhood; likely molested by her father, who left the family when Arcadia was young. Eric once told me about the time her father came to New York to see her for the first time in years. They met at a restaurant, and the reunion was very cold. Eric didn't think she ever saw her father again after that.

by Anonymousreply 10704/21/2019

From what I remember on the Rialto Report Eric contributed to about the ladies in his life, her father was somewhat wealthy and was married and had another family and had an affair with Arcadia's mother so she was born out of wedlock and he had little to do with her except a little bit early on in her life. Then later on Arcadia got involved in the rock music business behind the scenes and got hooked on heroin. She was still very young at that point, late teen and very early 20s.

by Anonymousreply 10804/21/2019

[quote]I'd let Paul Barressi fuck me even today.

Been there, done that.

by Anonymousreply 10904/21/2019

[quote]If I could get Eric to go to even one show, I bet he'd be hooked, though. He did a "golden age" reunion event back in 2017, and the crowd went crazy for him. He was on cloud nine for weeks afterward.

You should inquire about the travel. Now, I have zero info, but from going to CHILLER for years I was lead to believe the entrance fee (this year between $35 & $40 per person just to walk in the door) was to help the celebs in travel. The hotel benefits from being sold out and all the food the guests would buy all weekend. I could be completely wrong but it can't hurt to ask.

by Anonymousreply 11004/21/2019

The Chiller convention has moved away from horror in more recent years. They'll apparently take anyone semi famous that they think would help turn a profit for them. Eric is certainly more known than some of the people they've booked.

Veronica Hart and Georgina Spelvin have done some of the non-porn conventions although she has some horror and non porn credits, which helps.

by Anonymousreply 11104/21/2019

Whoops, that should be "although they have some horror and non porn credits, which helps."

by Anonymousreply 11204/21/2019

Here's the DL thread on George Payne's rumored Centurions of Rome stunt ass, David Morris.

David Morris, porn actor, 1970s-1990s

Anybody remember him?He was a secondary/character actor in mostly straight porn in the 70s and 80s, but some gay too. (most famous probably being Debbie Does Dallas, Insatiable, Aunt Peg, Blonde ...

by Anonymousreply 11304/21/2019

Here's DL's John Leslie thread.

John Leslie, Porn Actor/Director of the 70s-80s

Somebody asked about John Leslie in the David Morris thread. They got an answer, which I've pasted below, but let's keep a separate thread about Leslie, k?"John Leslie was born into a stable ...

by Anonymousreply 11404/21/2019

Anyone care to discuss or create a thread in tribute Big Thick Daddy- Frank James. One of the underrated Swordsmen of his day

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by Anonymousreply 11504/21/2019

Never heard of Frank James but Levi Richards is a favorite, nice bush, hairy chest.

by Anonymousreply 11604/21/2019

A friend of mine has emailed Ashley and April about an actor, who made gay porn movies : Arnaldo Santana (MALO was his gay porn name) and he made part of the [italic] Gay Porn Golden Age.

[/italic] He wanted to know if he was dead or alive and much more about him, unfortunately no one answered him...

by Anonymousreply 11704/22/2019

They are not into gay porn so no surprise there.

by Anonymousreply 11804/22/2019

R118 What are you talking about? They did a whole piece on Centurians of Rome, which is now being made into a movie. They also did an interview with Jeff Stryker.

by Anonymousreply 11904/22/2019

^^^I wouldn't consider that as them being into gay porn. Sad about Levi Richards.

by Anonymousreply 12004/22/2019

They are not INTO gay porn. One broadcast about a stolen truck does not a gay porn site make.

by Anonymousreply 12104/23/2019

I never said they were "into" gay porn, but they haven't neglected the gay porn side of the 1970s and 80s industry.

by Anonymousreply 12204/23/2019

I read something on Malo a few months back. At the time of the writing he was still alive but had gained a huge amount of weight (over 100 lbs). I would assume if he's still alive he probably doesn't want any public exposure.

by Anonymousreply 12304/23/2019

R123 I'm pretty sure Arnaldo Santana is dead. He was in "Scarface," and he was unrecognizable from the hot little leather hunk in "Cruising," having packed on tons of weight. His last acting job was in 1984 in a Showtime series called "AKA Pablo" with Paul Rodriguez. In the opening credits of that show, he was even bigger. He shows up at about the :49 mark in the clip below.

I believe he died in Florida in the early 90s.

AKA PABLO opening credits 80s sitcom

Paul Rodriguez's first attempt at sitcom fame. Co-stars included Hector Elizondo and a very young Mario Lopez.

by Anonymousreply 12404/23/2019

^^^He looks cute in those credits. I always thought his face looked sickly in porn and "Cruising".

by Anonymousreply 12504/23/2019

Arnaldo Santana was handsome and stunning in Cruising but I've never seen him in a porn.

The only thing I know is very contradictory : we have two versions, first he was dead in 1993 of AIDS and the second he is still alive and he's living in MIAMI !!!??? Arnaldo SANTAN is a mystery to me...

by Anonymousreply 12604/23/2019

Even the incompetent IMDb are unable to give us A.SANTANA's birthday and informed us if he is dead or alive, it's to say.

by Anonymousreply 12704/23/2019

Levi Richards was in the original short-lived (because the theater it was held in literally collapsed!) off-off Broadway version of the gay themed play Tubstrip. He was in several other plays in LA and NYC and even made it Broadway once (in a small part alas). Jamie Gillis and Dean Tait were also in this production of Tubstrip. Jamie and Dean did a fair amount of theater work too.

Here's the cast photo.

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by Anonymousreply 12804/23/2019

R128 Is that Jamie Gillis on the upper left?

by Anonymousreply 12904/23/2019

Yes, that's Jamie. He was credited as Jamey (the actual spelling of his real name) Gillis in the play.

by Anonymousreply 13004/23/2019

You bitches need to stop trying to make Rialto report into a little gay site for your pleasure. It's about dudes fucking pussy. Got it?

by Anonymousreply 13104/23/2019

(R124) Arnaldo Santana was a friend of Al Pacino (it is said he was very close to him) and Al Pacino got him a part in SCARFACE..... Do you think Pacino knows about the DL ???

by Anonymousreply 13204/24/2019

R132 Doubtful. But I'm sure Pacino was ON the DL back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 13304/24/2019

For those who haven't seen him in porn. That's him on the left in "A Night At The Adonis". He was hot to death back in those days.

A Night At The Adonis
by Anonymousreply 13404/24/2019

I love in the Paul Thomas interview how when she asks him about his co-stars he always mentions the men. Then the interviewer has to push him to talk about the women.

by Anonymousreply 13504/24/2019

(R135) Then, Arnaldo Santana was "gay in real life" ? because I've read, I don't remember where on the web, that he was [bold] only gay for pay....

by Anonymousreply 13604/24/2019

(R134) A.SANTANA was stunningly beautiful in Cruising. He could have become a sex symbol and a great actor, cause he was very talented, if Hollywood hadn't been so "puritanical" and straight mind.

by Anonymousreply 13704/24/2019

(R137) Sorry for the mistake : It was "if Hollywood had not been so narrow minded." As people, in the movie industry, care so much about the "straight" public.....

by Anonymousreply 13804/24/2019

Santana must have been good looking for the time because I don't see it. I do think he was a good actor though.

by Anonymousreply 13904/24/2019

Arnaldo Santana died on October 8, 1987 at age 37 in NYC. Given his age and the times, probably of AIDS. He was from El Paso, Texas originally. Here is the obituary from the El Paso Times, via newspapers.com.

Clipping from El Paso Times - Newspapers.com

Clipping found in El Paso Times in El Paso, Texas on Oct 11, 1987.

by Anonymousreply 14004/24/2019

R140 Finally, we have confirmation! Dead at 37? That means he died 1987 or 1988. Now the only question is, what did he die from?

by Anonymousreply 14104/24/2019

No mention what he died of. The newspaper was dated October 11, 1987 a Sunday, and said he died on Thursday, which would've been October 8, 1987.

by Anonymousreply 14204/24/2019

He was born in September 1, 1950, so he would have just recently turned 37 when he died.

by Anonymousreply 14304/24/2019

Only datalounge could confirm his death. I've been searching for years about what happened to him..👏👏👏👏

by Anonymousreply 14404/24/2019

R144 It's good to solve a mystery. I wasn't really too familiar with him, but found it odd he totally disappeared when his acting career was going in a good direction and especially considering he seemed very devoted to it. Turns out his acting career didn't end because he gained weight like someone speculated (and posted as fact) on IMDB - he died, like some had suspected.

by Anonymousreply 14504/24/2019

(R140) (R143) Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are wonderful, there is a thread dedicated to Arnaldo Santana and nobody was able to tell us what happened to him (just maybe, not sure, we don't know very much etc.....). Even if I didn't know him personally, I 'm sad but I've got the answer. Fortunately there are people like you on DL (but not so much!) : serious, with facts check.

by Anonymousreply 14604/25/2019

I swear, only on Datalounge could we get this mind numbing back and forth:

[quote]Arnaldo Santana died on [bold]October 8, 1987[/bold] at age 37 in NYC.

Then get:

[quote]Dead at 37? That means he died 1987 or 1988.

Then:

[quote]He was born in September 1, 1950, so he would have just recently turned 37 when he died.

SMH

by Anonymousreply 14704/25/2019

^^^Haha. I know. Too funny.

by Anonymousreply 14804/25/2019

[quote]Finally, we have confirmation! Dead at 37? That means he died 1987 or 1988. Now the only question is, what did he die from?

Really? Really?

by Anonymousreply 14904/25/2019

I could have written R40 and i can't figure it out either.

by Anonymousreply 15004/25/2019

^ No kidding. r140 lays it out:

[quote] Arnaldo Santana died on October 8, 1987 at age 37 in NYC. Given his age and the times, probably of AIDS. He was from El Paso, Texas originally. Here is the obituary from the El Paso Times, via newspapers.com.

Can we talk about someone else now?

by Anonymousreply 15104/25/2019

R151 Sure. Have any suggestions?

by Anonymousreply 15204/25/2019

jack Wrangler was "straight for pay," r32.

He married a woman for companionship -- they never denied he was gay-oriented.

by Anonymousreply 15304/25/2019

Oh, great, this thread has True Believer gay chauvinists who don't believe in "gay for pay." @ r51, but will believe in "straight for pay."

Everything written on this thread is tainted now. No wonder somebody thinks "stunt butting" is impossible.

by Anonymousreply 15404/25/2019

R153 Yes. He married famous singer Margaret Whiting. There's a great documentary that covers the whole thing. Apparently they loved each other very much, they just didn't have sex.

by Anonymousreply 15504/26/2019

[quote]They loved each other very much, they just didn't have sex.

Euh.....I will never understand this state of mind : when you are gay you are supposed to be in love or you want to live with a man. The funniest thing is "they loved each other very much" ok. I love my sister very much, I love my dog very much etc...and I just don't have sex with them.

Does anyone can explain me why do gay men marry women?! It's intriguing to me. Being Gay just means being attracted to men, falling in love with men and not women.

As for women who accept this kind of situation, which means no sexual relations, well, I think they don't have dignity.

by Anonymousreply 15604/26/2019

[quote]Does anyone can explain me why do gay men marry women?

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 15704/26/2019

Wrangler and Whiting did claim they had sex. When she tripped on some loose pavement in NYC and broke a hip, he sued, claiming "loss of his wife's conjugal fellowship and championship." Keep in mind, Whiting was in her mid 70s at the time.

He always did proclaim to be gay, though. His first time having sex with a woman was during his first straight porn film in the late 70s.

I'd say their relationship was primarily a companionship relationship. They had a lot of mutual interests. Whiting got a handsome companion and Wrangler got some of his plays and cabaret shows off the ground and into production with her connections and got to mingle with the circles she was in. At her age, I doubt she wanted sex often, but he probably complied when she did.

And FWIW, I believe Whiting said at least one of her previous husbands was gay also.

by Anonymousreply 15804/26/2019

(R157) A rational response would have been appreciated......

Then, we can use women as "pets", personally I was not aware of it (maybe it's because I'm too young!).

by Anonymousreply 15904/26/2019

Stay in school r156/r159.

by Anonymousreply 16004/26/2019

Why does the article @ r99 mention that Levi Richards worked with Troma Studios schlockmeister Lloyd Kaufman?

Did Lloyd Kaufman ever do porn?

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by Anonymousreply 16104/26/2019

R161 He didn't perform in porn, but he did produce and direct some. Don't think it's his favorite thing to talk about since he moved over from XXX to B-movies.

by Anonymousreply 16204/26/2019

The Chiller convention is for Hollywood -- not porn. It's a family clientele.

You would be better off looking at what kind of events are staged at porn conventions.

by Anonymousreply 16304/26/2019

What washed-up, gay4pay porn star homophobe is r131?

by Anonymousreply 16404/26/2019

Too bad there are no clear shots of "Malo" topping either a mouth or ass in his gay movies, r134.

by Anonymousreply 16504/26/2019

Jack Wrangler explains himself in the documentary, r156.

He married Margaret Whiting because of their shared history of being born affluent in Beverly Hills, their shared values and shared interest in show business. He related to her better than anyone else he could keep and felt they were in the same class. He admitted the love of his life was a young, male costar? who left him.

Every man is different, so other gays and bisexuals have their own reasons.

We know it was not a beard or sham marriage . Wrangler and Whiting were always candid about Wrangler's gay orientation and Wrangler's career in a bunch of gay fuck flicks.

by Anonymousreply 16604/26/2019

R163 Porn stars have appeared at Chiller conventions in the past like Marilyn Chambers (although she has appeared in some non-porn movies including Rabid) and Seka. Plus some stars autograph nude photos at convention like Chiller and The Hollywood Show and so on. As long as they didn't have an explicit photos in plain view for everyone there to see, I don't think they'd care.

Marilyn Chambers

Marilyn Chambers

by Anonymousreply 16704/26/2019

Wrangler apparently did fuck Whiting from time to time to appease her -- which probably wasn't too demanding or often. They cared about other things.

Wrangler was straight-for-pay, meaning he was bi, but his orientation was around men.

by Anonymousreply 16804/26/2019

Wrangler has also said he was too competitive in relationships with men, so they never worked out.

He probably also discreetly played around with men during his relationship with Whiting.

by Anonymousreply 16904/26/2019

PISODE$1.85M wasn't the only thing George Bosque stole.

CENTURIANS OF ROME is entirely scored with music plundered from STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and FLASH GORDON, among others!

The ripoffs are pretty brazen — I guess Bosque or the editor felt that porn was so underground and hard-to-find back then that they would never be caught.

Centurians of Rome

Watch Centurians of Rome on Pornhub.com, the best hardcore porn site. Pornhub is home to the widest selection of free Blowjob sex videos full of the hottest pornstars. If you're craving vintage XXX movies you'll find them here.

by Anonymousreply 17004/26/2019

Around 14:00 in the rape scene linked @ r170, CENTURIANS starts playing the famous "Battle in the Snow" music by John Williams from THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK — the scene where the AT-ATs attack planet Hoth.

Compare it to the music that starts at 2:14 here:

The Empire Strikes Back: The Battle of Hoth

My fave SW Scene. Smowspeeders and AT-AT's . Awesome!

by Anonymousreply 17104/26/2019

A lot of the porn movies back then lifted much from movie soundtracks. Some the infamous Avon movies (like The Taming of Rebecca) lifted some of John Carpenter's Halloween score. Waterpower and Pardora's Mirror had much from Taxi Driver and Carrie in it. That's just a few examples.

Plus even more library music was lifted. I highly doubt most bothered to license it.

by Anonymousreply 17204/26/2019

The scene where George Payne gets chained and flog-sucked @ 25:05 in the r170 link starts playing "Ming's Theme" composed by Queen for the 1980 FLASH GORDON movie.

Compare it to the original scene:

queen flash gordon - 03 - ming´s theme (by 2552)

by Anonymousreply 17304/26/2019

Yeah, there's no way these Hollywood studios licensed that music to pornographers -- especially back then!

by Anonymousreply 17404/26/2019

Red has gotten so boring , $ince it veered away from. Rialto report is about ....and just turned into some sick twisted gay fantasy.

by Anonymousreply 17504/27/2019

[quote]Stay in school.

I'm going to stay in school but [bold] you should go back to school, as soon as possible, to learn tact, civility and the rules of propriety.

by Anonymousreply 17604/27/2019

(R166)/(R168) Thank you for taking the time to answer with patience and kindness.

by Anonymousreply 17704/27/2019

[bold]Thank you to you (R140)/(R143) : IMDb changed all informations (short bio) about Arnaldo SANTANA, you realise just how necessary IMDb is.....

by Anonymousreply 17804/28/2019

Part 2 of the Paul Thomas interview, I hate that he joined a church, how gross.

by Anonymousreply 17904/28/2019

[quote]Did Lloyd Kaufman ever do porn?

Yes, he was one of the first.

by Anonymousreply 18004/29/2019

What about Lloyd Bridges?

by Anonymousreply 18104/29/2019

R181 No, but Chuck Conners did!

Chuck Conners in Sailor Marine

Watch Chuck Conners in Sailor Marine on Pornhub.com, the best hardcore porn site. Pornhub is home to the widest selection of free Gay sex videos full of the hottest pornstars. If you're craving movie actor XXX movies you'll find them here.

by Anonymousreply 18204/29/2019

"Hey I got bills to pay, a sick aunt, and a kid to raise. A gal's gotta do what a gal's gotta do *gulp*..."

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by Anonymousreply 18304/29/2019

Agree, Frank James one of the Hottest Dad's of Classic Porn! Yes he was second tier, but he was there and working all during 80s heyday You listening Rialto?

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by Anonymousreply 18404/29/2019

No, but Chuck Connors did.

by Anonymousreply 18504/30/2019

Wow r181, I've never seen as clear a version before. I don't think that was Chuck's first time at bat.

by Anonymousreply 18604/30/2019

sorry, I meant r182.

by Anonymousreply 18704/30/2019
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