Anyone ever been to the shithole that is Vancouver Canada

I've been there, it was kind of depressing. I wouldn't go back. I liked Montreal though. I probably wouldn't want to live in Montreal, bit it was nice to visit once or twice.

Chinese are like rats. They dig through garbage. Horrible manners too.

I read that Vancouver BC is one of the most expensive cities in the world. Apparently its real estate is up there. Maybe what happened is V. was an up-and-coming city in the 1980s or so and this created a real estate feeding frenzy and now the people that make a city word class, can't afford to live there.

Vancouver is now a Chinese city.

Partly, r3. My sister lived there in the mid eighties, she did her residency there. She lived across the street from the Granville Island ferry. Vancouver real estate was expensive then, but nothing like now. A lot of Chinese money, much of it illegal, is driving real estate prices. Many of the homes sit empty. It's a big problem.

Does it need a wall too?

Chinese people bring down the quality (and smell) of life.

OP, so how's the celibate thing going?

Vancouver is a beautiful city. It's surroundings are breathtaking. Unfortunately, Chinese nationals have driven up real estate prices to the point that very few locals can afford property.

It's no longer called Vancouver. The correct name is Hongcouver.

How'd so many Chinese get in?

Best Canadian city is Montreal if you want ambiance, most LGBT friendly, best underground and subway system and most laid back.

Toronto is nice but tries to hard to be like NYC.

Bitch, what did you say about Seattle?

Vancouver was astounding 8, even 6, years ago. Now it's gone to the cockroach Chinese. The entire northern west coast is. Vancouver, Seattle, Portland. Drive downtown after 8 p.m. in any of those cities and the lights aren't on because the owners all live in Hong Kong.

Leave the Mexicans alone. It's the Chinese that are killing us.

Yeah all of Canada went full throttle on the diversity thing and is getting ruined just like the rest of the west.

R13, the Chinese have already taken over North America, you can't blame diversity you have to blame these cheap politicians who sold out the country and people's jobs just to save a couple of dollars and taxes.

I live in a college town in Oregon and it's getting overrun with Chinese. The housing and rent prices are skyrocketing. The university here is accepting way more students from China than Oregonian students....you know, the ones whose parents have been paying taxes forever to keep the school running, and now their kids can't get in. The schools make a massive amount of money off foreign students. American students routinely complain about classes having no seats available because of the huge amount of foreign (Chinese and Arab) students, as well as no where to live. Students have been living in sheds in people's backyards because they cannot afford the huge rents. There is a crisis here and something has got to give sooner or later.

Sad to say, R10, it's been twenty years since I first heard that..

Hear, hear, R13. As a native and former resident of San Francisco, I heartily concur. They work the system like no other ethnicity, and if you cringing SJWs think white folks are racist (so racist in fact that every other race wants into white countries), just spend some time in a major West Coast city where the pet eaters have nested in any great number. Especially if you're black. They'll fuck with you relentlessly.

San Francisco has never recovered from the City Hall murders, one wonders if maybe Moscone and Milk weren't in the way of someone's plans for the city.

[quote]Best Canadian city is Montreal if you want ambiance, most LGBT friendly, best underground and subway system and most laid back.

And also if you want racism, archaic language laws and anglophone hate.

R12, they aren't even allowed English signs on stores, even if the store IS ENGLISH! LMAO

They had to fight for TWO YEARS to add English on Subway menus. Yet Quebec expects the rest of Canada to learn French and have everything in both languages. They themselves refuse to have anything in English though, of course! No wonder the Anglophones fled the province, and are still fleeing from the bigoted assholes.

Oh, and R12, the fact that you think Montreal is so perfect just proves you know NOTHING about Montreal or Quebec in general. Montreal is ripe with corruption and crumbling infrastructure. Then there's the racism issue, they hate blacks there are many neo nazis. Then of course they refuse to speak English or offer services in English. Their language police have banned all English throughout the province. Montreal was an amazing city at one point, when the English and French were allowed to speak their own language. Then the language police took over and banned all English, so that most businesses fled the city and the province. The anglophones got sick of being treated as second class citizens in their own country, so they left. Today there's mostly just French people left, because all the Anglophones were bullied out.

Same in Auckland, NZ, where Chinese speculators have driven up housing prices to complete unaffordability for residents. It is now the most unaffordable housing anywhere, relative to salaries. And worst of all, the houses are flimsy cracker boxes, hardly worth even a fifth of the million dollar prices.

R12, here you go :) Your lovely bigoted province is doing SO WELL!

La Belle Province comes close to dead last in almost every measure of private sector investment

I can guarantee you if there were no Asians in Vancouver but everything else was the exact same the OP would love it.

Quebec speaks a bizarre version of French. A weird combination of French and English. Je suis disappointé for example. WTF??

Who cares ? I hear it rains a lot there. The Chinese can have it.

Why don't they just stay in China? I always to see that about wealthy immigrants. If everything is fine for you where you come from why leave? I wish our government would bring people who are actually in need.

R26 Invasion of a future superpower and ready network of spies in case of future warfare.

Trump is the answer.

R28 What has he got to do with Canada ? Fuckwit.

I think, R29, R28 means that Trump would try to drive the Chinese out of Canada, 'cause you know - Canada is CLOSE to the US. In his dim mind, Canada is probably just like a big, slobbering puppy that wants its master, the US, to help IT banish "aliens" like he wants to do with the US vis Mexico.

I live in Seattle, work at Amazon and f'ing hate it (Amazon, not Seattle). I've been interviewing a lot at other tech leaders and I swear to god, I'm the only white guy in the building. I've had a couple of interviews (at Zillow and Google) where I couldn't understand the questions of the interviewer because of their loose command of our language. It was ridiculous and I felt like a racist in my feedback to the recruiter but wtf was I supposed to do? All Chinese and Indian and Baltic people.

Where do we fit in anymore?

Just be grateful it's not the Muslims.

I appreciate this thread. I visited Vancouver once several years ago and was disappointed by it. There's a lot of positive spin about the city but it didn't live up to the hype. Depressing is a good word for the place. I liked Stanley Park though.

Vancouver is a shithole. Don't forget the huge amount of homeless/mentally ill/drug addicts in the streets. And serial killer types with beards and baseball/trucker hats. And no culture. None. Zero intelligent conversation. And nothing to do. And no sunshine - grey skies or rain most of the time. And nowhere interesting to go nearby - just other boring places for miles. The house prices first went up with the Hong Kong rush to get out of China before the Chinese takeover, and have stayed inflated. A joke to have such high prices when there is zero culture and zero to do. It is also nicknamed "no fun city." People are rude and dishonest. It's hell for anyone intelligent or kind.

Re: Quebec, Montreal, Vancouver

Well, if I had to pick who I'd rather live with, the Chinese or the French....I'd go with the French.

Trump is anti-immigration. Vancouver's problem is immigration. Europe's problem is immigration. The US's problem is immigration.

wake up.

>>The house prices first went up with the Hong Kong rush to get out of China before the Chinese takeover, and have stayed inflated. A joke to have such high prices when there is zero culture and zero to do. It is also nicknamed "no fun city." People are rude and dishonest. It's hell for anyone intelligent or kind.

Sorry to be a bore, but this is equally true of Auckland. So glad I got out.

I forge the exact amount, but the Canadian government would let Chinese who invested above a certain dollar amount into the country.

They're all afraid of the Communists and of losing it all, so they are happy to park their money in the West.

Hell on real estate prices though.

R37 Auckland or Australia, the Chinese are taking over.

Better the Chinese than Muslims.

You can't swing a cat without knocking down a herd of Chinese and Indians here in San Jose. Pushy, rude, and they travel in packs.

(I'm so glad for DL. I'd get burned at the stake for saying these things elsewhere.)

Went to Vancouver in 1996 - am Canadian but was living in Australia (and that's a WHOLE other story if I had the time) at the time. I was there at some stupid energy efficiency conference. I was only in Vancouver 4 days but it RAINED and was foggy......and while I desperately missed my home country Canada - I was so put off by Vancouver. Now they've radioactive junk and fish washing up on the entire western coast.

Nope. You can have it and Good Luck. I live in the Maritimes. Paraochial and corrupt with idiotic political leaders but I'll take it over Hongcouver.

Quebec ? Doesn't even exist for me. And I'm bilingual raised in a French Culture from Ontario. It's a sad country.......

We're going to build a wall and make those rich Chinese pay for it!

Yeah, there is no where to live, R42.

R42 You're a Franco Ontarian then? Montreal and Quebec could be wonderful but the whole language racism is so stupid. Joual is not Parisian French in the slightest. I love it on French TV when they put subtitles on for the Quebec based shows! Montreal is a great city but like any place it has real problems.

I used to be "super liberal," but now I just feel like the people of Judeo-Christian backgrounds are just being invaded by hordes of 3rd world idiots who take, take, take. I used to love "diversity" until I started having to interact with them on a daily basis.

It takes a good 2-3 years for Chinese student immigrants to assimilate and once they do they are pretty decent citizens. But up until then, bearing in mind the kids who get to study in the west are from politically elite families, they are rude, obnoxious little shits. Many are from insignificant cities in the interior and are used to being big fish in a small pond and have little manners or social skills in interacting with peers.

Also racist - any one who is not a "hot", idealised white person, they hate. If you know a bit of the language, the stuff they say about black people is toe curling, let alone other Asians.

Even the Japanese don't pull that shit abroad.

So awesome to hear all the different opinions of the shithole of Vancouver Canada. I have been to Seattle which is culturally bankrupt and a real dump of a city. Without Microsoft and Boeing and Amazon it would be totally dead so lucky for them. When I went to Seattle my buddy wanted to go north to Vancouver and I declined. There is nothing there I need to see. I heard there is non-stop overcast weather, just like in Seattle and that would depress the shit out of me. I have been to Montreal and I hated it. The people were just meh and since I don't speak french I had a headache the whole time from not understanding what the fuck all the signs said.

China is the next world superpower. So people might want to get used to it now.

The men in Montreal and Toronto are better. Vancouver's demographic sucks for men. Good for families and all that. Horrible for men and sex etc. But I'm sure they're great with kids.

Is Vancouver good for rice queens then ?

So when white people drive up housing prices in New York and San Francisco, it's fine but when the Chinese do it, it's terrible?

That's the problem. Foreigners are not allowed to buy properties in China.

R48, which world-class city do you live in to be such a harsh judge of Vancouver and Seattle?

[quote]Even the Japanese don't pull that shit abroad.

Yes they do. You simply don't understand the subtlety of Japanese derision and racism.

"I have been to Seattle which is culturally bankrupt and a real dump of a city. Without Microsoft and Boeing and Amazon it would be totally dead so lucky for them."

You forgot Nordstrom, T-Mobile, REI, Costco, Starbucks, Expedia, Alaska Air, etc.

Don't be pissy just because you can't afford to live there.

R56 sounds like a Vancouverite. They are proud of inflated real estate prices. They think it is a personal accomplishment. Meanwhile zero life, zero culture.

R57 Too true. Vancouver Canada and Seattle the shithole are the equivalent of Kim and Khloe Kardashian. Over-inflated. Nothing going on. Worth millions based on nothing.

No, R56, I'm on the east coast. But I think Seattle is gorgeous w fantastic food, vibe, outdoor high quality of life. Downtown is a little gnarly after dark, but there's a reason everyone is flocking to it. Vancouver, on the other hand, does seem to have turned on itself. I think R57's Pacific Rim boyfriend kicked him to the curb. Bitter little queen.

You racis MARY's should stick to your Podunk shitholes

I bet the local property owners love the Chinese for driving up their prices.

R60 Lol I am sure no one has gone near your disgusting illiterate shit hole in years Mary.

I'd be happy to get an Asian boyfriend and settle down there.

R56, where were you in Seattle? What did you do? Where did you go? Which restaurants, clubs, events, neighborhoods? And it sounds as if you never even made it to Vancouver.

The Chinese cunt I used to work with (who had my same title and would overtly compete with me and do insanely obnoxious things) used to go on and on about how great VanCOooVAH was, but even she said she couldn't afford it.

What do the chinks do when they get there? Are they already loaded from China or do they somehow get jobs - and how the hell are they getting so many visas? Is Canada just like - come the fuck in, we don't care?

My bf and I have wanted to move to Seattle for years and have a little cabin out on one of the islands. So stunningly beautiful out there.

Canada just interested in the Chinks money.

People from the BC govt go to China to recruit students and businessmen to come to BC.

Chinese people don't pay a proper Canadian wage unless they're told to by regulations just like Brown people. Their CHEAPNESS is ruining EVERYTHING.

[quote]People from the BC govt go to China to recruit students and businessmen to come to BC.

Oh god - why?

And they create jobs

R70 Investments ?

They only care about money? They are traitors? Whores?

R73 You rather have the Muslims ?

Well, I know investments are part of it, but they haven't they thought of the long term implications in property values, culture, etc...? Canadians were capable of making Vancouver a nice city without Chinese money.

Canada used to have a visa prgm similar to the US EB5 Investor visa. It got so abused by the Chinese, it was stopped, but not before they emigrated to Canada en masse, esp Vancouver.

The Canadians have foreigner visa pgms for students, workers, professionals, families, etc. They're diversifying their nation into self-directed oblivion.

There are over 250,000 Chinese students in US universities. Of course its about their ability to pay in full, but how fucking stupid is it to educate your biggest competitor?

France and Italy here - no, no one removes shoes. Crimes against local taste? Well for one thing, in Italy, it's almost a crime to ever arrive on time to a dinner or party. And people have absolutely no shame at all at being late for anything else. Also, they take good personal presentation very seriously. They spend a huge amount on clothes, accessories and hair. Slobs are really looked down on, as is poor personal hygiene and less than spotless homes. A big insult both in Italy and France is to be called maleducato/mal educé or malevato/mal élèvé (badly educated or badly brought up). Your manners reflect on your family and training. Saying to someone in N America - were you raised in a barn? doesn't have the same import at all. Mothers love it when you tell them their child is well brouught up.

[quote]they haven't they thought of the long term implications in property values, culture, etc...?

The governments, all levels and parties ONLY care about money and personal profit. Same thing happening in Europe.

R74, shut the fuck up, you idiot. Go back to Reddit.

Wow! This thread attracts way too many white bigots. Kill it.

Interesting R76, thanks for the info.

Oh dear,wrong thread! Sorry!

R74. No.

But why are these the only two choices?

R77, I didn't mind think about France and Italy for a few seconds, and well-brought up people...

Muslims or Chinese, just pick one r83

Chinese, R85

The racists/bigots can infest any thread so just ignore them. The Chinese are creating property bubbles in cities around the world. Google it. San Francisco. Shitcouver. Auckland. Sydney. Lots of cities have been ruined by Chinese investors.

Sometimes I like to fantasize about what a troll like this OP must be like. How does he spend his days? In a cinder block building on the outskirts of Des Moines? In a duplex just east of Wichita? He thawed a salisbury steak for dinner, the ding of the microwave the only sound to split the silent heavy air. A bird chirps from his cage in the dark corner. And he clicks refresh, refresh, refresh, hoping for a reaction, any reaction, from the anonymous ether.

Most likely he has traveled and experienced more than you, R88

Vancouver and the Pacific Northwest in general have been in the grips of a serious meth epidemic for almost two decades. You can't walk down any street without coming across a meth addict. That tells you all you need to know about the region.

Second-generation Chinese do integrate very well. I know I'd rather have a Chinese surgeon or dentist who obsessively slaved away at university due to family pressure than a non-Chinese who spent his (or her) university years drinking and partying.

It means the Mexican cartels claimed that territory, R90. Same with heroin in New England.

Jesus, what the hell is with the idiocy and useless vitriol on here lately? This is like driving through a trailer park in Mississippi.

[quote]Jesus, what the hell is with the idiocy and useless vitriol on here lately? This is like driving through a trailer park in Mississippi.

R92 logged on to DL for the first time 10 min ago.

R53 - ......and why exactly would prohibition against foreigners buying up Chinese properties be a PROBLEM?

China is one place (after Syria, Iraq, Japan, South Africa) where you would NEVER in a million years ever ever want to buy property and permanently live there.

That's because they are smarter than whites, R53.

The Western governments have sold out their own countries/people. They just care about their personal profit and helping the 1% get more.

R95 = Self-hating White "progressive"

R97 they are buying up the Western world, and we are letting them. They don't allow us to do so in their country. They most certainly are smarter.

Let's not forget the pathetic Vancouver riots because their hockey team lost. Utter desolation because of a damned game. The best part of that riot was some loser teen who was jumping on a demolished car in a mask acting like the fearsome hick he is finally getting caught. He was forced to apologize on national tv in tears! Oh man, the satisfaction when douchebags don't have their mama to save them. This BS is something only white people can conjure.

All hail the mighty dollar!! I feel bad for NYC (which is not normally a sentiment I have for that city) for what the Chinese are doing. Developers spent the last 5-10 years basically whoring themselves out to Asians, assisted by the realtor partnerships across countries.... all the time everyone is profiting at record levels & commissions are off the charts, for empty apartments. What whore would give up a paycheck like that in the short term for the sanctity of NYC in the long term?

China recently passed some law making it harder to invest in foreign real estate, and the poor realtwhores are all in a panic. So sad.

I remember just ten years ago people were saying Vancouver was overbuilt, that its forest of green glass condos would never be sold, that is was a Green Glass Detroit. And here are they are all snapped by the Chinese. It was an even bigger blessing to Chicago, which built something like 100,000 downtown units that were intended for old people, but old people can't afford to move with low interest on their money, so without the Chinese they'd be selling about 10 condos a year in Chicago with 90,000 empty new units. And instead prices halfway recovered from 2011, owing to the Chinese. The realtwhores had better be worried.

I went there for a vacation about 5 years ago. Planned to stay 10 days but left after 3. It was truly horrible, and I'm Canadian.

R46 said: "I used to love "diversity" until I started having to interact with them on a daily basis."

To a certain extent, I feel similarly - well, as far as foreign immigration is concerned. Liberal immigration policies seem idealistic/noble in theory - but in practice, it is rife with problems that tempt one to retreat to a less "progressive" mindset. Immigration can - and does - put Westerners in situations where they are interacting with people who come from parts of the world where mentalities and behavior patterns are just not up to Western standards. So you're interacting with people who have weak concepts of Western standards of politeness, ethics, and proper business decorum; people whose sexist attitudes can hearken back to the 16th century; and people who can be retrograde racists. Oh, joy - just what we need - people who can accelerate a decline in overall civility and standards.

This is a worst-case scenario of what can happen when one deals with certain immigrants. Sure, there are unethical business people of American/Western origin, but the vast majority of them would know better than to pull THIS:

The OP's problem is that wherever he goes he brings his nasty self with him.

My hotel was right by where the streetwalkers worked their trade (apparently it's legal?) in little groups of a half dozen or so. One night it started raining, and they all produced little umbrellas and carried on as usual. The sight of them standing there under their umbrellas was so cute, and somehow very civilized.

[quote] said: "I used to love "diversity" until I started having to interact with them on a daily basis."

Vancouver isn't diverse. It's Chinese and India. That's it.

[quote] they aren't even allowed English signs on stores, even if the store IS ENGLISH!

Arkansas is in England now?

I haven't been to Vancouver for five or six years, but I always thought it would be the only place I could live in Canada, because it's the only major metro area there with somewhat decent weather. (Decent compared to Toronto, Montreal, etc., not to California!)

It's in a gorgeous setting; somewhat similar to SF or Seattle. Does anyone watch the Canadian TV series "Motive?" They used to show it in the summer on ABC, but now it's on USA (new shows to the US, not repeats.) It's set in Vancouver and there are a lot of exterior shots of the city.

I visited Vancouver in 1982. While there was an Asian or two outside of a regular Chinatown, it was still a prim, white city then, with blue laws and decorum not unlike Christchurch.

When the Asians started arriving in number, it shook up the city and made it more fun, but now (as is always the case with Asians) it's too much shaking and the fun is now just blown out people requiring too much money to get seediness and despair.

[quote]San Francisco has never recovered from the City Hall murders, one wonders if maybe Moscone and Milk weren't in the way of someone's plans for the city.

Try looking at it this way, r17 -- Dan White didn't know why he wouldn't be allowed to regain his Supervisor's seat after he resigned until Dianne Feinstein told him that Milk and Muscone already had plans for that seat which, again, White gave up voluntarily.

After Milk and Muscone were dead and White was in jail, Dianne, who had been identified as one who'd reached the end of her career in politics, ascended into the Mayor's office, and later joined the Senate.

The death of California began with her and her Chamber of Commerce friends now in control of the state. You like Dreamers? Thank Dianne. You like Russians? Thank Dianne. You like the vibrant yellow of Silicon Valley?

Thank Dianne.

Vancouver in the 80's was a very different city than it is now.

It used to be a diverse city, but it was still affordable, and it was very vibrant. Granville Island, Robson Street, and Gastown were all brimming with shops, restaurants and activity.

As people here mentioned, the 1997 transfer of Hong Kong to China resulted in a massive influx of Chinese to the city, which tipped the population balance. It became heavily Chinese influenced, whereas before, it was a pretty even mix of people.

And of course, the skyrocketing real estate prices due to speculation, just absoutely ruined the city as it has all over the US West Coast.

I still remember Vancouver when it was at its peak, and so I have an affinity for that city. Not sure what it's like now, but it sounds horrible.

Honestly, this thread is fascinating (and a bit scary). Thank you guys!

The racism in this thread is pretty crazy. I've been on DataLounge for 15 or more years, but I usually avoid any thread that's even peripherally about race because I know what I'll find there -- I'd rather spend my time here reading about caftans and Lisa Whelchel than about how much a bunch of racists hate Chinese people.

I live in Vancouver. It has its problems (large homeless population, lot of mentally ill and drug-addicted people who are not getting help) but it is still a very safe and livable city. Yes, the housing prices are ridiculous. I'll probably never own my own place, here, and that sucks. But overall, it's a pretty easy, pleasant place to live.

To call it "pleasant" is probably damning it with faint praise, and both perspectives are true. Pleasant is not interesting. The arts community is minuscule. It truly is "no fun city". But for Canada, it's got the best climate you'll find. The area is beautiful. Most of the city is very clean. It's a pretty even-keeled place.

I like that there are people from all over the planet who live here. It's not always easy for everyone to co-exist, but the multiculturalism is probably the most interesting thing about the city. Without the variety of cultures, it would be a pretty dull place.

The average single family home in Metro Vancouver costs $1.4 million (CAN), but prospective buyers are willing to pay upwards of $700k more than asking price to win their bid. Roughly 80% of these home buyers are Chinese, leaving the rest of the homebuyers to settle for condos or move further east into Coquitlam and the woods of Maple Ridge and beyond.

R94 how could you list Japan alongside China, Iraq, and Syria? How much time have you spent in Japan? Retard.

R113 is the son of Chinese ex-pats who bought their way into Vancouver through dirty money.

No, R116. He is a white guy, proud that he learned how to use chop sticks.

R116 Exactly. Of course if you are a Chinese citizen and a millionaire it will be fucking great to live in a city with over 90% Chinese in some neighborhoods and the fuckers in city hall are owned entirely by developers.

It's funny because it's true.

That's funny, R119. There is a funny one of Victoria, too. Can't find it right now.

R113 here. R116 called it the closest, I guess -- I am a white guy and I am pretty good with chopsticks (or any eating utensils) though I think saying I'm "proud" of that is a stretch.

I grew up in the prairies but I've lived in Vancouver for 23 years and, mostly, I like it. No place is perfect, but of the four cities I've lived in my life, it's the place I've liked the best.

here's another one

You mean R117, R121 (R113)

The people from the prairies defend BC because they do not want to go back to the prairies.

In the US, all the Iowan farmboys come out to the coast and go crazy for the Asians.

Back home with the corn, they were just nerds.

This thread is filled with racists.

I have really positive associations with Vancouver. The scenery is unreal beautiful. I've had great meals there. It feels different than Seattle.. I love the NW in general.

The drug thing is pretty serious though.. There's a corner in Gastown where junkies hang out? One time I was there I totally saw someone stagger around with a needle still in their arm

r113=MARY!

In the U.S. we have mentally ill on the streets because Reagan decreed we wouldn't warehouse them and got rid of government paid for institutions. What's Canada's excuse for homeless on the streets? So, I heard the geography is beautiful. How is Stanhope Park? That's all I know of the place if I were to visit.

Do you mean Stanley Park?

The NDP shut down the mental hospital and put them on buses to the biggest drug "neighbourhood" in the country.

Stanley Park

When did DL turn into Stormfront?

Vancouver has got to be better than tombstone, Arizona. Now that's a shithole

Vancouver has always been fearfully corrupt and I don't understand that.

R130 = DL newbie

They used to have the most beautiful strippers, natural bodies. They regularly did artistic "blanket performances".

Non European cities all have a problem with so many rat-bastards. Maybe North Korea will accidentally nuke China and involuntarily help the West. Too many fucking Koreans too. All these mongols have reduced the average penis size by 5 inches. We truly are the land of the nubbins.

R130 Oh fuck off Mary. Racists are on every board of DL. All you can do is ignore them. So save the outrage fucker .

The Supreme Court ruled the mentally ill cannot be held indefinitely, and can refuse treatment, r127.

[quote] This thread is filled with racists.

Oh fuck off you cunt. Go find some SJW board you can moan over. I hate sleazy developers and corruption. Crooked people are found in all races and it is despicable no matter who engages in dodgy activities, not just Caucasians.

[QUOTE]In the U.S. we have mentally ill on the streets because Reagan decreed we wouldn't warehouse them and got rid of government paid for institutions.

You can't possibly be that ignorant, R127. It's the liberal left that pushed for deinstitutionalizaton -- and continue to do so -- on the basis of "rights" for the mentally ill not to be put away against their will.

[quote]China is the next world superpower. So people might want to get used to it now.

Yeah everybody said that about Japan. It was totally inevitable that Japan was going to rule the world. Remember Blade Runner and the Japanification of the west coast? In 2019, you know, three years from now? The japs better hurry up.

No you misunderstand R139 -- before Reagan came along and destroyed the safety net there were government funds available to subsidize SROs -- single room occupancy buildings. They were very inexpensive rooms -- yes they were often seedy but they were someplace a mentally ill person or someone else on the fringes of society could afford on a minimum wage salary.

In the 80s I worked in the old McGraw Hill Building on 42nd and Eighth. Across the street was an SRO and a lot of the menial jobs were filled by people who lived there.

Then Reagan's cabal decided to cut the federal subsidies for SROs, instead giving a smaller amount directly to the states to spend. The states of course had zero interest in continuing the SRO subsidies, as the reaganites well knew.

The building owners were no longer getting their subsidies, so they kicked their SRO tenants out and sold their buildings. Luxury housing for yuppie douchebags went up instead. Unable to afford anything but an SRO room, many of these poor/mentally ill people went out on the streets and so couldn't hold a job any longer. One by one the workers at my company fell away and we never saw or heard from them again. Years later I heard that one of them, a girl we all liked named Belinda, had died of AIDS in 1988.

I like Vancouver.

Those judgemental maps at R119 R122 are hilarious. As someone that lived in Vancouver from 1983 to 2010, it really is funny, because it's so true. I'll be forwarding them to all my old friends that still live there. So why don't I live there any longer? I retired, and can't afford the place on my pension. So I moved to Costa Rica.

R113, don't worry. Most of the racists on these threads can barely scrape up enough money for McDonald's and are 3 months behind ontheir rent on their double wide. Barely smart enough to get a GED. They are just jealous of people who work hard, get an education and can afford to better their lives. Half of these idiots probably have never had a passport and traveled out of their states. Let them cry and whine bc that's all they have. Haters are gonna hate! Don't get angry or discouraged. Feel pity for them.

Says R144 as he makes the most racist post on this thread with his stereotypes of poor Whites.

I agree, R145.

Not to mention R144 makes use of that incredibly tired and moronic expression, namely, "haters are gonna hate." Repulsive all around.

To the Québec haters at R18, R19 and R20, has it ever occurred to you that Québec is paranoid about losing its culture because Canada doesn't have one? If you live in one of the most boring, bland countries in the world, you'll fight to the death for the little bit of culture you have. The Anglos have sold the country to third world immigrants and now they're complaining about it but calling Québec racist. It makes no sense. And even with all the problems in Montréal, it's still the most interesting Canadian city which says a lot about what a crappy country Canada is.

[quote]has it ever occurred to you that Québec is paranoid about losing its culture because Canada doesn't have one?

I visited Quebec and found it charming. The rest of Canada not so much. Also: I don't speak French, but people were helpful and friendly.

Apparently Vancouver USED to be the greatest place on Earth. They got too much publicity and all the wrong people moved there. Crime spiked. Charm left. That's OK because the city sits on a huge earthquake fault that could go any time now, so you definitely don't want to go there. Go to Seattle or Portland instead,

Nothing will make you appreciate Montreal than living for years in the rest of Canada.

Montreal is basically Boston with better drinking culture. From the surface charming but dig deeper and among the worst collection of parochial nasty people on the continent.

R152 Montreal is one of the worst cities around. 100% corruption in all three levels of government. Their racist language laws have chased out most of the anglos straight out of the province. I visited for a week and have zero interest in ever going back. Every aspect of life in the city and province and country is soooooooooo bad and entirely corrupt.

Vancouverite @ R153 lol

Anglos are not a race, therefore language laws cannot be racist you silly twat.

Secondly, more and more Anglos are moving to Québec. I guess they're tired of boring Vancouver and Toronto and all the ugly people (especially women) who possess no fashion sense whatsoever.

I think Vancouver is fucking gorgeous! What San Francisco ought to look like. And I haven't seen any posts about Wreck Beach. why are gorgeous young Canadian men so less modest than their US counterparts? I remember one trip to Wreck back in the early 90's on a Sunday afternoon with five of the most gorgeous men I've ever seen spending a nude afternoon. Playing volleyball, etc. No, Vancover is tops. Except for the rain. The old restaurant, the Cannery, did close - it was one of my favorites.

I was in Vancouver yesterday - went up to eat some delicious Chinese food. Vancouver definitely wins in that respect. However, other than Asian and West Indian cuisine, the food culture sucks. I do love the natural beauty of the city but I do have to say it does have an odd lack of culture/identity.

Every time I think it will be different, I find myself becoming supremely bored about halfway through my visit. In comparing to other cities in the PNW, not nearly as fun or interesting as Portland, Seattle or Victoria. There are many reasons why so many Vancouverites spend so much time down south on the weekends (besides the cheap shopping).

Nickleback was Vancouver's gift to the world, culturally speaking

Nickelback is from Hanna, a small town in east-Central Alberta.

Destroyer from Vancouver

I didn't know that r158. They've often been presented as a Vancouver product, even in Vancouver media:

[quote]Last night saw Vancouver’s most hated musical export return to their hometown with a concert at Rogers Arena.

Yes r158, but they took off after playing local bars around Vancouver. I saw them randomly a couple of times before they hit it big. Thought they were decent as a bar band... they performed in tune. Never would have expected their future success.

The Singer in Nickelback bought a big house in Surrey or Abbotsford (BC).

If you have to live in Canada Vancouver is one of the better places

They always sold themselves in the early days of their success as ordinary guys fro Hanna. Even Kroeger's live in wife, the one who sued him, was from there.

I couldn't live in Vancouver. The weather is gloomy too much of the year. Plus I like snow.

[quote] However, other than Asian and West Indian cuisine, the food culture sucks.

Like the western states of India? Punjabi? Because there sure as fuck is zero west Indian (west indies) food and culture in Van.

I don't see "White [sic]" mentioned anywhere in R144's post. Sounds like you're the real racist, R145.

I've heard that there are a lot of Asians there and not only Chinese, and that there are lots of heroin addicts.

Point taken R165. I have a bunch of Trini relatives who live up in BC and get fed well whenever I go for a visit. So I always equate the delicious island food I get with the area.

I have been to a few hole in the wall spots in burnaby, Delta and Surrey that are pretty good. They are out there.

I thought the food was absolutely delicious. Too bad the Cannery is gone. Fodor's said it was the best restaurant in Canada.

Vancouver has good food. I love it there.

R170 You can eat anywhere you ridiculous retarded douche bag.

[quote] Trump is the answer.

Trump supports the ultra-rich Chinese, Russians and Arabs buying real estate in the U.S. He advocates expediting the naturalization process for wealthy foreigners. Trump pretends to hate unskilled dark-skinned immigrants because he knows that poor and undereducated white Americans resent them. However, he relies on these immigrants to staff his hospitality businesses.

Vancouver it the meth capital of Canada. Who would like to live in a meth capital?

How did this thread get to 173 replies without one mention of the film industry? Isn't Vancouver still considered Hollywood North?

The Cannery closed because it was on the port, and customers couldn't access it with new restrictions on port access.

Vancouver is the San Francisco, Portland, Seattle and Los Angeles of Canada

R163, there is enormous variety in restaurants and food shopping. You need to know where to go because its often most concentrated in neighborhoods. If you want East Indian food go to south Fraser, for Greek its west Broadway, The Italians and Carribean Islands share North Commercial Drive. The Chinese own Richmond and Chinatown in Downtown, If you go on Denman St there are a dozen different ethnicities represented every block including a plethora of Korean Ramen Noodle shops, English Pubs with Fish and Chips, African, Indonesian, Monglian, Afghan, Mexican, Sushi Bars and on and on. West Robson St Has a lot of Korean and Japanese restaurants.

Next time ask a resident.

Sorry, I meant R165. There are lots of Ethnic festivals too such as Caribbean Days, Greek Days, etc.

There are a variety of ethnic festivals in many major cities in the u.S...big deal.

Sorry, R179 but I was replying to R165

I'd take the Chinese over Mexicans any day.

Not me. Mexicans want to integrate into American society, the Chinese do not.

As a matter of fact individual chinese have a superior work ethic. Superior intelligence. You will never catch a majority of chinese on welfare, in prison or robbing and killing people. On all these points, the same cannot be said of mexicans. I would choose chinese.

LOL you've obviously never been to China R183. The Chinese are savage.

R184 Of course to a gross mexican in jail lol.

Vancouver was amazing when I lived there. Nowadays, you couldn't pay me to visit that city. Fucking Chinese scum. Thanks, assholes, for ruining what was once Canada's most beautiful city. And to think all those condos and houses are just sitting there, empty, like R5 mentioned.

The Chinese are going to take over the entire west coast of North America, mark my words. The entire planet will be Chinese in the next couple hundred years. Here's hoping those fuckers don't destroy the planet and the human race in the process.

"As a matter of fact individual chinese have a superior work ethic. Superior intelligence. You will never catch a majority of chinese on welfare, in prison or robbing and killing people. On all these points, the same cannot be said of mexicans. I would choose chinese. "

Superior intelligence?! LMAO. You don't get out much, do you? They're all a bunch of liars and thieves. All those "immigrants"? They're fucking industrial spies, for the most part. Chinese people haven't been innovators for a thousand years. They steal all their technology now.

Chinese immigration is a long term plan by the Chinese government to populate and take over the world. Instead of going to war and doing it the hard way, the Chinese are doing it slowly but surely through immigration. They want the rest of us off this planet. I'm not saying each and every Chinese immigrant is an undercover agent for the Chinese government, but too many of them are.

China also wants to overtake the entire continent of Africa.

I see that it hasn't changed in the ten years since I've been there. So many homeless people, overpriced bars and most of the gay men were twink-like trolls-thin and ugly with bad haircuts. I stayed with a friend who lived in this condo with glass walls in his bedroom-ugly place. They did have nice restaurants and BION, a very nice public library. But the people were so disappointing and the Asian drivers-UGH. And my friend turned out to be a snotty asshole. I guess he was all along but that trip opened my eyes to him and to his overrated hometown.

They can have Africa.

Ordinary Chinese are at least clever enough to realize that society in any form is not looking out for them. Democracy propaganda has addled so many of you to think you actually count with somebody in power.

The Chinese have nasty uncut ways.

After being in the USA for a few months I can say that if we Canadians have to share with another race then Asians are the way to go. African Americans and Mexicans are on the whole just fucking awful.

Too late. The Mexicans already know you don't have a wall. They will be arriving, millions of them, in the next twenty years.

By 2100 Spanish speakers will be a majority in Canada.

Vancouver is the most beautiful major city in North America. I don't understand why everybody is trashing it?

That is certainly not true R196. Have you ever been to St. Johns?

St. Johns is not a major city.

Neither is Vancouver.

New York is not even in the same league as Ciudad de Mexico. And yet they so arrogantly and complacently compliment themselves here.

R193 you are Canuck white trash, pure and simple.

[quote]China also wants to overtake the entire continent of Africa.

Wow! Finally something to look forward to! Will they bring egg rolls?

Come on now, let's talk about Wreck Beach. I maintain it has the best looking guys who aren't afraid to show it all of any beach in North America.

Went there for Pride and what a joke it was. Total shithole in terms of people. No culture. Not much to do downtown. Lots of racist arrogant shitheads. Avoid this culturally dead shithole! You have been warned.

Let's pit the Chinese against the Muslims.

I would pay to see how that would turn out!

Despite what people say the life of Canada is Toronto and Montreal which has the most diversity. I like Canada despite what people say about it. It is defintely more more normal then the US right now.

No one on this board likes diversity, R206. You're hardly selling us on the joint.

I'm with you r206 god knows we've got our own problems in Canada, but the states seems really in a downward spiral, and has been for some time now.

Diversity has been around since America's inception. People only hate diversity when economy is stagnating and jobs are scarce but when things are fine then it is less of an issue. The US has been downward spiraling since 2004, but everything as acclerated cause of the deep political divides within the country.The US is not only going through a political clash but also a cultural/generational clash. You have older generations who want to hold on to their power, deep down they want to hold on to the power cause they know that their generation screwed up the system for the young people. Then you have the younger generation, who want the country to be more European/Canadian liberal.

The Chinese people that I have personally met and interact with regularly (my sil and her family) are extremely racist toward whites and especially blacks. They are arrogant ugly bigoted people and I have to hold my tongue at family functions. They also seem to think Vancouver is the greatest place next to Hong Kong, but love the fact that they can stay in the US for months at a time (but bash it) because my sil "married a blue-eyed white American."

The sil came to the US for free graduate school, but originally moved from Hong Kong to Vancouver as a kid.

R210. Based on your comments, I'm going to assume you are white. If your SIL is Chinese, then she married your brother who is white. Seemed odd that you say she is racist given that she married a white guy who is your brother. This makes no sense. Perhaps you are the racist and don't like the fact that your brother married an Asian. You did refer to Chinese as arrogant and ugly which sort of makes YOU out to be the real racist. Just an observation.

No, her family is properly depicted in my post at r210.

The mother wanted a blue-eyed great-grandchild in the future...those are her words not mine. My sil is the closet lesbian with a tiger mom and my brother a bi/closet case who wanted kids.

I am an outsider listening in...my family is liberal, white, accepting...they are rude cunts and I really don't care if you believe me or not. Clannish, rude...they seem like the adult equivalent of teens at that age where they hate themselves and try to project it onto others. It is an ugly energy. And, as I stated, it is the extended family/friends of one Vancouver Chinese family, so it may not be everyone. Maybe the mother is the Archie Bunker of Hong Kong/Vancouver.

I loved Vancouver. Yes, it's expensive but if you can't afford to be there you just shouldn't be there. Loved the food, scenery, and people.

lol Hong Kongers would be so pissed that you gays call them "Chinese". They think they are so much better than the Chinese and call Chinese people "locusts".

It's boring and crass.

R189 has a pretty accurate description.

Canadian here. Visited Vancouver to attend a convention. Visually very attractive but I felt caged in due to the density of high rises in the downtown core. It felt sterile, cold and empty. This was back in 1995. I've never been back and have no plans to ever visit again.

Lots of Chinese on welfare. It's usually the Anglos who are too proud to take advantage of government assistance. Other people see it as free money.

I think Vancouver is mean to the homeless because otherwise all the homeless in the whole country would end up there.

Anyway it's a little schizo because they feel a need to out-flake the bourgie hells of Seattle and Portland on the one hand, which may not be possible and should certainly not be attempted; and out-entrepreneur California on the other. The result is an excessive amount of fake Positive Mental Attitude. that just sucks the life out of a room. If you can get past that, they are very down to earth and real, as well as healthy and sexy.

[quote]Canadian here. Visited Vancouver to attend a convention. Visually very attractive but I felt caged in due to the density of high rises in the downtown core. It felt sterile, cold and empty. This was back in 1995. I've never been back and have no plans to ever visit again.

My sister lived there in the1980's. She said it changed so much once Hong Kong money started flowing in. She said it became "self important". She ended up moving to Toronto.

The presence of Asians lowers the standard of living faster and more drastically than any homeless drug addicts.

R222 Seattle also has 100s of thousands of Chinese citizens in their area too. I wonder how they feel about being usurped.

The racism on this thread is pretty bad, even for DL.

I just visited Vancouver for the first time, this weekend. My impressions, for what they're worth:

Good: Some great restaurants, some world class condos with giant windows so you can see the decor on display, beautiful walks along the coast, Stanley Park is beautiful, some quaint little old neighborhoods fun for strolling around, great public transit system, lots of places to get food very late at night, pretty clean in most places, waiters have no issues splitting checks, Granville Island was a lot of fun, with the shops and really great food prepared right there for you, really fantastic fish and chips and oysters in even the diviest of pubs, proximity to nature, availability of any kind of Asian cuisine you want, pretty much at any time, definitely very gay positive, fantastic bakeries.

Bad: Bartenders are religious about pouring the exact amount of shot in your drink, waiters and bartenders don't like to make small talk, people do not have a great sense of humor, there is an insane amount of drunken douchery at night (people parking their expensive cars on the sidewalk, pink limos everywhere, douches wandering around trying to charm drunk bitches - and yes, these awful people were mostly WHITE or EURO, not Asian), some really shitty restaurants (you get what you pay for), tons of cocaine, uptight vibe in a lot of places, flakiness and unreliability in people, shitty drivers, aggressive drivers, gay bars are loaded with straight people, and tons of straight chicks having girls night out, sake tasting was a mistake (yuck), people in the film industry there are more insufferable than LA, with all the ridiculous name dropping and coke talk, and yes, lots of sketchy looking drugged out people (only about half as bad as SF, but SF is a bigger city anyhow...).

LOL at this thread. Used to live in Vancouver in the 70s and 80s and these comments are bringing back the whole experience of the city. That judgemental map is exactly as I remember Vancouver 30 years ago!

Hurry up and buy

Oh boy. Oy goy.

And Toronto is so full of meek, self-effacing and social people. Okayyyyyyy.

Vancouver is full of douchebags from all over Canada but especially the prairies who want to party and have a good time. It's the only place in Canada that isn't intolerably cold. I wish all the assholes from the prairies would just stay there we don't want them.

R229 Touché.

OP, you may quote me: Seattle is a "Third Tier Shithole of a Hamlet."

Clearly you have been there. Well said.

In 2018 many neighborhoods in Vancouver, Burnaby, Richmond, and Coquitlam are 95% Chinese citizens. Nary a white person to be found.

In the Midwest, there are lots more Asian, Indian and Middle Eastern students coming to the US for higher education. It's so competitive and expensive and they've got seats to fill, administrators to pay very well, and adjuncts to screw over!

Welcome to the future, OP.

Hey R214 that's what I call them too! How funny!

How's the Trump Hotel there? Is it still Trump-branded?

I was in Vancouver last week for the first time. Compared to Seattle, the homeless population must be hidden. In Seattle, they're visible and unavoidable. In Vancouver, I only saw two the whole time I was there. In general, I found Vancouver beautiful and clean. There were a lot of tacky people shopping. The food and transit were great.

r237, for some reason a taxi driver (middle-Eastern) drove us right by the Trump hotel (still Trump-branded) and asked what we thought of it. I said, "Even here we can't get away from him!" The driver said that lots of tourists ask to see it.

Wanting to see a Trump sign encapsulates why that city sucks monkey balls.

R239 What do tourists have to do with a city?

Still better than Trump's America.

R241 Nope.

I love all the Canadian cock at nude Wreck Beach in Vancouver.

True dat.

Richmond anywhere will have lots of chinese. coz it sounds like "rich man"

R243 Wreck Beach has been mentioned 3 times in this thread.

I went to Google Images and the sand there is a grubby grey colour.

Look at it in context. Vancouver is mega sophisticated if you’re from rural BC, Edmonton or Calgary, or anywhere in the prairie provinces really.

If it wasn’t for Vancouver and Toronto, where would B-listers shoot TV movies?