Are Muscles Worth It?

Do it now and enjoy it.

It was worth it to Arnie as he's made hundreds of millions off those muscles. For the average Joe, no it's not worth it.

Why do anything, OP?

Most people find a well toned, tight body with a little muscle more attractive than one that is overly muscular.

He used drugs to achieve his look and has admitted to it. That's why he's had all of those heart surgeries. He looks awful because he's had so many heart surgeries. Plus, he has gyno (from working out and elevated estrogen) and all kinds hormonal issues (from drugs and age) which cause loose skin. Drug use actually causes your body to stop producing hormones.

In just seven days, OP....

"Drug use actually causes your body to stop producing hormones."

Plus, when men get older they lose the Y chromosome.

Travolta decided he like to eat more. Legendary glutton. And after 50, roided muscle queens just start to get ridiculed whatever they do to stay "young." So, no.

I didn't know that R7. Are they still male essentially?

[quote]Are they still male essentially?

No, that's why so many old men look like lesbians.

You can go on T to mitigate the Lesbian Look, but then you'll be dead of prostate cancer within 5 years.

Yes it gets me any man that I want. I put up a pic and I get dozens of men wanting me. I can be more picky and the guys worship me. I even had a woman in a night club ask me to go home with her and fuck her. I could be an escort if I wanted to sell my ass.

Emaciated?

Arnie's a big, fat blob!

Only if you don't want to get sand in your face when kicked to the ground.

I don't like men with too many muscles.

[quote] Yes it gets me any man that I want. I put up a pic and I get dozens of men wanting me.

I'll be the judge of that.

Link to photo, please.

Tell 80-year-old Vince McMahon that muscles aren't worth it.

Then stop making excuses for yourself and get your ass to the gym!

OP, I guess you know there is a middle ground between how Arnold Schwarznegger looked in his heyday and a 98 pound weakling?

Only if you plan to fuck the maid and have an ugly child with her.

R12 = Junior Samples

What's wrong with lean and slim ? Looks so youthful. Like a runway model.

R21, I can get more guys and girls that you can imagine with my gym body. Lean and slim is for pussies. Muscles are hot. If I'm going to have sex with a guy don't want a lean and slim dude; I want someone built like me.

People forget that exercising feels good if youi're doing it right. Obviously if you want mega muscles you need to spend way too much time getting them or put your health at risk with steroids.

Muscle is a fetish r22

OP just don't equate muscles with sexiness.

And one time I asked a muscleguy with a small cock if he wished he had a big cock and an average body and he said def a big cock/average body.

And let's face it, with cock size there are only three: small, big and horse.

[quote]Tell 80-year-old Vince McMahon that muscles aren't worth it. Then stop making excuses for yourself and get your ass to the gym!

Why would I in any way want to emulate Vince McMahon????

I prefer a big cock to big muscles

Vince McMahon is on HGH (probably enough to kill a horse)..and roids.

Arnold had a Mesomorph body type. They are short and squaty and build muscles quickly.

Ectomorph- Lean and long, ectomorphs have difficulty building muscle

Endomorph - Big with high body fat, often pear-shaped, endomorphs have a high tendency to store body fat

Mesomorph - Muscular and well-built, mesomorphs have a high metabolism and responsive muscle cells

It's pretty amazing that OP would question if muscles are worth it and then ramble about Arnold.

EVERYTHING Schwarzenegger has attained in life, he owes it to bodybuilding. He would never had emigrated to America if it wasn't for bodybuilding, he would not have been in the movies if it weren't for his physique. Now he's worth over $500 millions, has been Governor of California, and you still wonder if being muscular was worth it because he's looking saggy in his 60's?? It's like wondering why someone would study hard to become an engineer if he got alzheimer later in life.

You could still do all that without being a bodybuilder and not looking saggy at 60s.

McMahon is impressive, but he's not 80.

R31 With what talent? Arnold knew nothing but to lift weights, and he made it big.

I guess you, an obvious bitter fatso on the internet, could have life-coached him to stardom by other means, but alas uchronia is a subgenre of fantasy and sci-fi and not reality or history.

Arnold looks a mess because he got old. All men of his age look like that, whether they worked out or not.

But I bet he had more fun than the average chubby schlub along the way.

R34 I bet he had lots of fun with that ugly housekeeper..

Worth it?

You should emulate Vince McMahon because he is healthy, he looks and feels great with big muscles at 80 years old and he has an active sex life, r26.

Or be a fat, diseased, bitter P.O.S. when you're 80. The choice is yours.

r36 is that a pinhead?

........

Oh yes

Of course. The hotties that start checking you out is incredible. It opens you you up to 8s, 9s, even 10s! And you fit in your clothes like whoa.

Another unexpected advantage of having a well muscled body is that I get MAD respect from straight guys. At work they’re all “bro this”, “bro that”, asking for tips, wanting to hang out. A muscled body opens the door to the straight boys’ club - but you gotta be BIG.

So true. Almost all my close friends are straight bros. While they were cool with me as a skinny dudes, they give me so much more respect now that I lift And am “Jacked.” They constantly comment on my Bigger muscles and physique. They call me “boss” and “stud” now, even sometimes “Alpha.” There is just so much Male respect for muscled dudes.

Do you need to juice to get big?

It depends what your priorities are.

If you want health, and to look good as long as possible, go for moderate muscle. Eat fairly healthy and work out regularly but not obsessively.

Oh, and don’t smoke Or get too much sun exposure (but go outside frequently. Just cover up and use sunscreen).

Definitely. I was a twinky waif inclined towards topping but got fucked all the time. After I bulked up bottoms became attracted to me and I was able to top much more - and kick sand in face to boot.

Indeed

Vince McMahon: major pussy hound, big Trump supporter.

Just say no.

The attention and adoration is intoxicating and addictive.

Big muscles take lots of work and eating. To stay that way, it’s almost continuous. No carbs and steroids help too. You get lots of attention and then you realize it has little to do with you as a person but your muscles.

And then you get sick of not having much of a life because you spend so much time tending to your muscles.

It’s better to be lean and muscled but just not that big

I worked out with weights for 30 years, three hours a day, six days a week. I was the geeky, nerdy kid in high school, so when I noticed the results for the first time, I became hooked. I wasn't a bodybuilder, but I was well-muscled. I was always getting compliments on my chest, in particular. I got to know many great guys at the gym through those years; I spent so much time with them. I also got an up close look at some great bodies. Some even teased me by flashing their cocks from time to time.

I know I was noticed when I walked into a room. Going to a gay bar in the 80s with muscle (before it became popular) guaranteed at least one person would approach me each time, looking for love...

I was gradually tearing my rotator cuff, and it finally gave out. I had surgery and rehab. Then I tore it again. After that repair, I stopped lifting heavy. One day at the gym, in my fifties, I was so tired. I asked myself why I was doing this. I left the gym and never went back.

I lost muscle mass, but I haven't gotten fat. It was great while I had the muscle, lots of reward. But now I wonder how I ever had the time to do it.

I love the way hard, developed muscles fit in clothes, especially today’s athletic, muscle, and slim fit styles. It feels good to just feel like your physique is molded into pants and shirts. I especially love how my polos are so fitted

R24 I am NOT fatish!

---R22

[quote]They call me “boss” and “stud” now, even sometimes “Alpha.”

Wow, you must have a really magical, fulfilling life now.

To r54: You mad, bro?

U bet he is!

R54, he's being IRONIC.

The snarky eyeroll isn’t ironic

If you love and need the attention, muscles are worth it. They take loads of work, particularly if your body doesn’t naturally have that aptitude.

You will have a wonderful selection of men who want to have sex with you, be invited to the hottest parties, have strangers offer you free things. Seriously.

I know, because I made that commitment. I went from being a vegetarian to a meat eater just so I could gain muscle. I’ve juiced a few cycles but kept most of my muscle mass since.

I like the attention and the fact that I can choose the hottest guys to sleep with (I remember when I had to hope and pray men would even look my way.). It’s fun but I know this won’t last forever. I’m already getting bored of the whole rigmarole.

There is a lot of male bonding and camaraderie among guys who are in today’s male aesthetics, male fitness, and bodybuilding movements. These are essentially subcultures with their own lingo, lifestyle, and relationships. A lot of guys mainly hang out with other dudes and women who are fitness heads. After all, they are in the gym all the time and have very particular diets. It’s a huge male bonding appeal across orientations.

Sort of like team Sports

Speaking of which, muscles mean you can indulge in sportsex.

Do you have any idea how much Pu@@y was being thrown at Arnold in his prime? I’m sure he thought it was worth it!

Moderation in everything. In the long run, the person who eats right, gets a combination of some regular cardio and resistance exercise, even if it's just regular vigorous walking and some push ups or pull ups at home, maintains his BMI at 25 or less, gets sleep and avoids overindulgence in drinking or drugs will look good his whole life long, not just for a decade here or there. It's been my experience watching friends who are gymholics, that when the time comes (and it always comes) that they either injure themselves to the point of being unable to work out, or tire of the routine and stop it, their big muscle bodies quickly turn to fat - fat that is VERY hard to lose. But a completely untoned body is not attractive either, at any age. So finding some sort of exercise regime that fits into your lifestyle is very important. Sadly, it means spending a couple of hours a day away from DL too :)

Don’t ever tire of looking hot

Yes!

No. R64 is the best post on this thread.

Look at Stallone’s and Van Damme’s bodies today. They never let themselves go.

Yes, it’s worth it.

Schwarzenegger gained wealth beyond the dreams of avarice and world fame from his muscles, so even if all the steroids destroy his health in later life he probably thinks it was worth it.

Nobody else has ever gained enough from big muscles to make taking decades off their life span worthwhile.

My vegetarian friend decided to become a meat eater so her would bulk up. He was pretty thin before and now he’s nicely muscled. He beds so really hot guys now.

So, for him, the muscles were worth it

R68 Stallone is still using steroids. He got busted in Australia a few years back.

Working out, you pretty much have 2 choices: build muscles for appearance sake, or build strength.

Building strength feels great but it has a lot less to do with image. It will make you look better and weigh more while burning fat. You will be able to lift things you couldn’t before and walk around feeling like you can defend yourself if need be, especially against couch potatoes.

As a woman, I love lifting heavy weights. It feels great. I’m not too extreme, but it’s been proven I’m now stronger than your average non-active man —no hormones and no special diet, either. Love that, too.

I’ve also out lifted and out lasted a few gorillas in my day. When you build up the major muscle groups like bodybuilders do, you can actually lose strength and stamina. Their workouts are weird and I don’t understand them. A huge gorilla actually wept tears with his bloodshot eyes in my class doing tricep repetitions with a five pound weight. I can do 20 pounds or more at my best.

So, do it for you. Strong feels great and will serve you for a lifetime. My only complaint is I really need electrolytes daily because the extra muscle mass dehydrates me quickly. Bodybuilding is style over substance and can harm, is weird and unnatural, and is all about looks. If that’s what you want, then buyer beware. CrossFit guys are far hotter imho.

Muscular people actually look sexy in clothes as well. Maybe even more sexy than in Speedo-type garb. For the person who is in shape and muscular (not talking body dysmorphia territory), it's a huge mental boost and confidence boost. Even if you work in a career that is more cerebral, I think the muscular person would have an advantage.

Studies show weightlifting has huge health benefits, from preventing diabetes to helping jumpstart the metabolic rate. People with muscles are less likely to fall or suffer injuries, and tend to report higher levels of contentment

All should weight train at least twice a week.

If you do it and keep it up, you'll consistently have sex with other muscular men. But after you stop doing it you'll lose the muscles, and if you lose the muscles, you'll lose the frequent sex with muscular men. But eventually you'll age enough that it won;t matter how muscular you are (unless you are a cum-sloppy whore like the elderly Dallas Steele and will have sex with anyone).

R76, do you only think about sex, man?

Uh, google that old lady in her seventies who can deadlift over 200 pounds. She looked pretty damn firm to me.

R17 is that a current photo of 80 year old Vince?

[quote] Uh, google that old lady in her seventies who can deadlift over 200 pounds. She looked pretty damn firm to me.

If you want to have sex with her, go for it!

Honestly? It is SO worth it. Being young and having members of both sex wanted to be naked with you, is an incredible feeling. Now I am old and body has broken down, and I am invisible, and that is ok too. For any young man, go for it, there is no greater feeling in the world. Ok flame away, just one persons experience.

I love seeing all the buff people in their 60s and 70s in the gym. Goals

Lost at sea, hide the desert

Stay with me, you won't regret it

Take this love, so deep to swim in

Come to me, and let the love in

I've been going to the gym for nearly 30 years; definitely had my muscle day when I could clearly get both men and women wanting me, and I did indulge. However, I never considered it the definition of who I was or am. Over 50 now, I'm still toned, not buffed, and not anywhere near as obsessive about achieving muscle mass. I'm very, very good at what I do, successful in my career, and had I been a fatty that wouldn't have changed. It's fine to want to be healthy, prolong wellness, and enhance self-esteem. It's another thing to overcompensate for many other deficits in one's life to the point that it becomes pathological. The guy who talked about body building as ultra male bonding may be omitting the facts that many of this clan also suffer from major depression, addiction, body dysmorphia, anorexia, bulimia, laxative abuse, and an array of personality disorders, namely NPD. Believe ne, I have seen them and known them all. Younger guys are being raised in era where the male physique has been hyper-exploited and oversexualized to the point that it is worse than the female stereotype ever was. A number of guys in my current gym have great physiques in tandem with coke and meth problems, ADHD, aggression issues compound by the incessant doping. Not a pretty picture. I hate to shatter the illusion of muscle magic and its gateway to respect and unbelievable sex with both genders, but there are plenty of guys with great bodies who ended up with chubby chics. There are also heavier guys with dynamic personalities and other talents that get laid a lot more than you'd like to know. Maybe the work needs to be done on the inside first. Getting an education, perfecting your intellectual and mental acumen, learning compassion, empathy, and generosity. Avoiding an elitist male bonding club that will exclude, but creating a social forum where all are welcome. It saddens me to see that gay men who have fought for decades not to be discriminated against have morphed into a generation that does nothing but discriminate when looks, weight, and age are involved. The outside will eventually be the reflection of the inside. When you're young, you have the face and body that God gave you. When you're old, you get the face and body you deserve. And tomorrow becomes today much faster than you think.

Well said.

To look like this, certainly

R85 Thank you. Not many are going to get the point.

Yes, R84, very well said.

Yes, it’s worth it.

Yes, I’m. More likely to get sex, but it make you feel so much better. Walking down the street, running up a flight of stairs, picking up a bag of whatever, you feel more capable. I’ve been working out regularly for thirty years. A few years ago, there was a definite change for the worse with body fat and muscle mass, in spite of a six-day-a-week regimine. Got my testosterone checked. It was low, as I suspected, so I got on weekly shots, and everything’s just a little bit better.

I’m not going to compete with twenty-five year olds, but I get to be the best me I can be. All my bloodwork gets checked regularly, so the health risks are minimal. Don’t always feel like going to the gym, but I’m always glad I went. My mood a better and I feel grounded in my body. There’s a joy to feeling your body working, it puts you in touch with your animal nature.

And occasionally, I make out with a guy half my age, so there’s that. I don’t much care about going home with them these days.

If you get fit and stay fit WITHOUT steroids, then yes it is worth it.

Yes it worth it. You pack on your muscles before you're 40 and you'll look pretty good as a hot daddy. Not to speak of a strong core as you age. Nothing more unattractive than a scrawny old geezer with a gut and hair growing out of his nose.

Nothing can be "worth it" forever. Our values & priorities change the older we get.

R42 R43. I can attest to that. I had a best friend who would and still gets mad respect from other guys due to his muscular frame.

So straight guys' approval makes it worth it. Big shocker. Same as being a marine or pro sports player.

R93 here. I should have mentioned that my buddy is straight.

Hells yeah

[quote] I’ve juiced a few cycles but kept most of my muscle mass since.

Did your dick shrink?

Question : when you stop after years of big muscles, does the extra skin schrink back or does it end up hanging on the body?

Don’t juice

Hells yeah

Are you basically saying bodybuilding is a "sport" full of lust and orgies?

I find many different types of men attractive, but the combo of a lot of muscle plus a bit of cushion (“fit fat”) is definitely the sexiest to me. I would love to get beefy, but am a classic ectomorph and know it would require constant, grueling workouts and more food than I can see myself eating on a regular basis.

So, for me it’s not worth it—at least not now. I’ll stick with my 4-5 challenging but not hellish workouts a week and moderate diet.

Sex, most men want admiration and sex. Muscles open those doors.

R84 hit the nail on the head!

Yes and no. The pros are obvious, of course; being healthier, stronger, the confidence boost and more attention really are great. Athletic activity opens up a completely new world of entertainment. But there's also a somewhat dark side to it, or at least there is for me. A nice body can be alienating to some people. One big problem I encountered is that my body change resulted in some horrible jealousy issues with friends, both men and women. My social groups from my youth were the typical party/bar crawl crowd, and we did it up majorly. However, as we hit our late 20s, the lifestyle caught up with us and we started getting fat. Of course we all made the pact to work-out together and eat healthier blah blah, but I was the only one who followed through with it. In my friends' defense, our lifestyles were grossly unhealthy, basically just working to get to the weekend to do drinking and smoking with little sleep, up all hours, no exercise besides walking from bar to bar. So going from that to consistent working out (working out with smokers lungs is one of the most horrid experiences) and moderating caloric intake was akin to throwing a fish on land and demanding it to walk. But it does suck because when I hang out with my friends, it's me and bunch of drunk, overweight, depressed smokers making snide comments about how I spend too much time in the gym or my "obsession with my body is weird." They basically hold a grudge against me for it which has really changed our dynamic. I've had three girlfriends who've said they don't want to be seen with me publicly because they think I make them look fat by comparison, past FWBs don't want to sleep with me anymore because they don't feel attractive enough, etc.. Contrary to what others have mentioned above, I haven't really enjoyed more sex with hotter people. I definitely sleep with hotter guys now, and that's nice. However, in my midwestern city, fit isn't really the norm; for every 50 guys I interact with on grindr or in a bar or wherever, there's maybe 3 or 4 who I'd consider, (and whether I meet their standards is another matter as, admittedly, I don't have a typical attractive male face), and the logistics and practicality of hooking up sometimes completely leave me with nothing (I'm not traveling 40 miles round trip for ass or waiting an hour for them to come over). I've also noticed that a lot of guys assume that, because I'm fit, I will only date or hookup with other guys at my same fitness level, which is not necessarily the case. But, like the issue with my friends above, the disparity in physique is alienating so they don't approach me or try to engage. Far too often on Grindr I hit up guys who say they've wanted to talk to me but feared some bitchy, insolent rejection. Also, a profile pic with a muscled body attracts a lot of catfish, so most of the time half the hot dudes hitting me up are fakes or bots or whatever.

But, with all the above said, I don't regret it in the least. Working out and lifting feels great, it's great to be healthy and get healthier, it's wonderful to care about what I eat and to be able to breathe properly again. I now enjoy getting sweaty and dirty and being outside in nature (I was something of a fuss pot in my youth), I care less about superficial commercialism (no body cares what you wear or what label you wear when the body is what's being eyed). It's really tempered me in a lot of ways and turned me into a much more mature adult than I was in my 20s. And one thing to remember is that getting slimmer or more fit doesn't necessitate hours in the gym or starving oneself. Sometimes all it takes is a few moderate shifts in diet and some more fast walks around the park or doing some jogging around the block. Building muscle is hard to do without a gym setting. But my first year, despite not having a gym membership, I actually made great progress in toning my muscles, and even gaining muscle, by just doing simple body weight exercises like lunges, pushups, crunches, etc.. Maintaining a healthy and strong body is very worth it.

There is no easier way to get lots of followers, likes, admirers, and access to other hotties.

There is no easier way to get lots of like-minded simpleton followers, likes, admirers and access to other shallow, vapid tools.

But they are hot r107, so worth it

I wish I knew the health benefits of weight training when I was younger. It’s extraordinary. So many people butch and complain and take meds or abuse substances when they could just lift a few times a week instead.

True, studies are confirming the major health benefits of weightlifting at every age

I muscled up right after high school. Had a downtown internship and just hit the gym after work and before going out.

I'm 50 now and what I have found out through the years is that I can easily get back to that body, but never beyond. Of course, those muscles are now packed into 50 year old skin, lol.

But that's good enough for me. I dont try too hard at the gym and consciously make sure I dont burn out.

DLers as always can't accept getting older......

I love seeing buff 60 and 70 year olds at my gym. They are true gymspiration

R109 it's interesting that you mention that. Anecdotally, I've noticed major differences between my friends (and myself) who are active and those who aren't. Obviously, being overweight carries with it obvious risks. But I've noticed those less active friends are super dependent on doctor care to feel better, take more medications, complain of pain or being sick, are overly fatigued, and these are people in their early 30s. I myself haven't been on any medications most of my life, I get sore from the gym sometimes, but nothing debilitating like some of my friends have. One of my friends is 32 and she keeps throwing her back out. I told her that's just not normal. But again, she's never really been active.

Yeah, gym life is great

If gays didn't like muscles there would have been less men physically apt to protect our species when we were primitive wanderes thousands and thousands of years ago. Some of you see attraction to muscles as shallow but you're wrong; it's nature's way to keep the species alive.

Uh huh

I guess they are. Now and then I raid the piggy bank and splurge. Chad is my favorite, but if he's not available, Kyle will do in pinch (hehe).

Whatever dude

Yes they're worth it. Surely everyone ages but the muscle strength you built up keeps you stronger in old age. Also you get laid more when you could get it up.

One day, when I was on adam4adam (yeah, it's been a few years), I decided to do an experiment, where I swapped my pic with a shirtless pic of a very nice muscled body I found off the Internet. I am not super-proud that I did this, but I planned from the start to not meet anyone, and indeed I stuck with my plan. I was shocked by the number of guys who hit me up. Some hot guys who I had never seen before on the site came out of the woodwork to say hi. It was a very telling experience that I have never forgotten.

Good for you. Did the response at all inspire you to buff up?

I'm 60+ and have been lifting and biking moderately for 45 years. I'll continue as long as I'm able because it's absolutely key to preventing my body from falling apart entirely. It preserves function and staves off various things that put folks in nursing homes. Plus I still get cruised occasionally...by seniors!

Moderate weight training and/or resistance training is important for long term health. HOWEVER........building gimongous muscles is NOT good for long term health. It leaves people muscle-bound and extremely injury prone, and when they stop working out, with a body that sags everywhere. Schwarzenegger and others are perfect examples of this. Ideally as we age, we have built into our lives a mix of cardio (brisk walking is just fine for this), plus, as I said, a moderate amount of resistance training, and a certain amount of stretching/flexibility work. This can be done with bands, or even using gravity (against arms or legs - anything held up against gravity). Doesn't have to be with weights or machines. Coupled with a healthy diet and lifestyle (minimal drinking, plenty of sleep), a person can continue to have a body with this regimen that is not overweight and has some muscle tone well into his 70s and even 80s. This is maintaining a functional body vs. a body built for show.

However, many men are addicted to the gym and the gym lifestyle. If it motivates them to get moving every day, I'm all for it. But men should avoid injecting steroids and attempting to get massively bulky at any age. That's a very unhealthy choice.

Muscles are critical

Muscleheads are critical too.

R122, yes, but it's not coming easily. Making progress though!

It takes time

What about your sex drive?

It’s worth it

The world of muscle is not hypersexual for nothing.

It's worth it when your young because you have the most sex then

[quote] One day, when I was on adam4adam (yeah, it's been a few years), I decided to do an experiment, where I swapped my pic with a shirtless pic of a very nice muscled body I found off the Internet.

Years ago, I did the same on another site and found similar results. Amazing how muscular men get hit on by all types--which is no surprise. I had totally forgotten about that account and recently checked it. I literally has over 100 emails waiting for me from guys who wanted to hook up.

No wonder gays are obsessed about becoming gym fit

R132 It's worth it when you're older too as it still helps you have sex.

It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. Work on your body and diet, but don't obsess about it.

Also, having a spectacular body won't solve mental issues. So work on those too, and learn to be happy with yourself.

[quote] They call me “boss” and “stud” now, even sometimes “Alpha.”

Mary!

[quote] If gays didn't like muscles there would have been less men physically apt to protect our species when we were primitive wanderes thousands and thousands of years ago. Some of you see attraction to muscles as shallow but you're wrong; it's nature's way to keep the species alive.

I love it when the Ph.D.s like yourself weigh in!

It's true, R137. I learned it in middle school.

Muscles of primitive wanderers were compact. They weren't these balloon-ish steroid muscles of modern bodybuilders.

Thanks R137

It’s worth it to look like this in clothes

"A muscled body opens the door to the straight boys’ club -"

Oooo, the straight boys club! How special!

Hilarious

R141 is so hot

R141 would look a lot better in nicely tailored clothes that leave something to the imagination. Skintight clothes on a guy screams look-at-me insecurity.

Develop your mind AND body. But don't be defined by your muscles.

Muscles rock

Yes, to look like this ALPHA

Muscles are okay, but they aren't the be-all end-all.

Muscles open a lot of doors

Most particularly Aaron Schock’s butt cheeks

Yeah they give you access to other Alphas and 10s

Alphas...in their own minds.

It's all about hotness. Don't ever be fooled by bodybuilders who say it isn't about looking hot.

Muss kulls.

We don't need muscles anymore.

We don't need men to wrestle the Woolly Mammoths anymore because we buy our food in a shop.

Fat jealous loser ^

Woolly Mammoth wrestler ^

I’m not a lezzie r157

Muscles matter

What do you think?

Both Homosexual Arnold and Homosexual Travolta used their bodies to set them on the road to the mega-wealthy ladies that they are today!

Hells yeah, they are!

Most certainly

Goals

They are

I love them

Most certainly. Makes you attractive to other attractive people

Yes, especially to build functional strength and maintain flexibility. As you age, you need to work to keep your body in order. Losing your mobility as you get older due to never taking fitness seriously is a common regret and if you bodybuild or strength train responsibly, looking good is a secondary benefit.

I don’t think muscles = healthy

Muscles’ worth depends on what you’re willing to do for them.

I have a few friends for whom a few sessions in the gym make them muscular. My body type however is slim. A lifetime in the gym has made me fit looking but not with big muscles. It’s not worth doing steroids to gain mass for me.

Exactly, muscles don't equal health or even genetic superiority.

I think the role of muscles is more about survival through defense. Nature eroticised muscles in order to increase the number of men that would protect their communities back in the days when humans live more primitively and numbers for survival mattered.

They sure look great on dudes

Despite all the bitterness he causes here truth is he is getting lots of dicks hard and dripping across the globe.

If muscles didn't make you look sexy and didn't give you more chances for sex no one would do bodybuilding.

R174, sadly R173's pic shows mucles don't make his look sexy

I feel better buff

Wow, old thread. But yes it's worth it. It takes a lot of work but you feel and look better than people who are not in good shape, you're more sexually desirable, your body is stronger and healthier which means you are less likely to suffer from various ailments, you can use your body as a money-making opportunity if you so wish.

If you could wave a wand and get your dream body without putting in the work, I reckon almost everyone would - but not everyone is willing to invest the time and work required. Yes, everyone will age and lose their looks and their body, but hell I'd rather look good for as long as I can than not put in any effort because one day I'll be old and saggy.

They're always worth it.

I like toned bodies, not overly muscled ones. I work out with weights 4 times a week to try and maintain good muscle tone. Plus, weight workouts help you avoid joint problems and arthritis as you age.

Yes: it’s easier to regrow and maintain muscle mass in the future if you have trained your muscles in the past. This is called muscle-memory. You don’t want to end up a skinny-fat elderly person.

True

Yes, I love looking great in clothes

Yes, I love looking great in clothes

Definitely

I don’t tear down gay men who are effeminate or stereotypical, but I am never attracted to them. I’m Strictly attracted to conventionally masculine and mainstream guys, not only romantically, but also as friends. I just relate to masculine dudes and enjoy kicking it with them. I don’t bash fem Guys, I just don’t vibe with them.

Gymspiration

Bg muscles are ugly. They make people look like freaks.

That's a personal tate; not a universal fact.

I, for one find huge muscles attractive.

It’s intoxicating to be jacked

Muscle mass is important to preventing injury and Decline as one ages

I just turned 40. Too old to start ? Lol

No dude

Arnold probably destroyed his health with steroids, but you've got to admit that it worth it in the end. He's a legendary film star AND politician. At least he'll die having made some impact on the world.

He still has a decent physique

R193 plus he got to participate in gym orgies, trains and gangbang that may or may not have had bi activities

I love the way buff muscles make me fit into clothes

I know I'm going to feel like mush at the end of this.

Muscles are hot

Muscles are hot

It is painful not to work out. I hate skipping the gym.

Me too bro

I've always been leery of gym bunnies and oh hell what's the derogatory name for a guy anyway. But I've confirmed it with others, hot bodies, trash personality.

Huh?

Bump

To look like this? Oh yes

To fit into shirts like this

r202 Most definitely think the average (nonwhite) guy is beneath them. At least the gay ones do.

I don’t hang with the gay ones

It fills out clothes so nice

If you’re over 40, get a prescription for injectable testosterone. Even small amounts help with maintaining muscle mass.

R202 you type death fat and envious

They definitely are. I love the 65 year old buff dudes at my gym with ripped abs. They are dedicated to fitness

Why wouldn’t all guys want to look like this in a shirt?

I like having nice tits in a shirt.

I wanna loon like this in a T-shirt

They're welcoming us back!

Look like that

Oh yeah

Goals here

It looks so hot

It is attractive

Fanboys

Bump

They get so many followers and likes

To look like this? Hells yeah!

Work hard

I was high with a bodybuilder friend once and i talked about how it was kinda messed up that we eat other animal's muscles to grow our own. he went vegan after that and said "never again. those are their gains bro, not mine"

I was lifting weights in the 80s, which wasn't considered normal at the time. It wasn't common to see built men at gay bars, yet. I wasn't a bodybuilder, but my muscles were big. I was noticed when I walked through the bar's front door, some even stared at me. I'd wear a tee-shirt and guys would pinch my nipples, which were prominent on my pecs. Eventually someone would pull the shirt off of me. My package would be groped.

Honestly, I didn't mind it. I went home with a couple of guys who used their hands on me. I had to give up lifting weights twenty years ago, too many injuries sustained with the wear and tear of muscle. I regretted watching my body get smaller. Now, I'm happy with my average 60-year-old body. I had my moments; they are nice to remember. I still enjoy looking.

R209 this is pretty much my physique - though I really would like to be bigger. I've not done injectable steroids before but I am considering it.

R229 Damn boy, we should really hook up! I bet you would destroy me! You should not use steroids!

My gym crush told me is taking SARMS

R231 I have tried SARMS before but they didn't agree with me, and I felt like my nipples were getting puffy so I didn't finish the course.

R230 - why shouldn't I use steroids? I think a lot of people have a lot of misconceptions about steroids. Like anything, they can be abused/misused but there are ways to do them more safely, and like anything they have risks. It makes me laugh when people judge steroids but they smoke or drink to excess, which are way more harmful. Pretty much every built guy on Instagram is on roids, it's not a magic bullet but it sure does help when you are training hard but not seeing the results you want. And no, in before the usual comment 'it shrinks your dick' because it doesn't.

Why jeopardize your health?

R233 you could say the same about literally anything - you have to weigh up the risks vs the rewards and if you decide that the rewards for you personally outweigh the risks, then why wouldn't you do it?

Why do people go skydiving? They could die.

Why do people smoke? They could get lung cancer.

Why do people drink alcohol? They could become alcoholic.

Why do people drive cars? They could die in a car crash.

Why do people do steroids? They could develop health issues from steroid use, yes, but they could also develop the body that they want. Risk vs reward.

Certainly

Marine muscle, yes.

Dedicated

Gains for the bruhs

My most muscled friends don't actually spend that much time in the gym--maybe 45 minutes/day.

I never understood why people spend hours and hours at the gym for the same result

Attraction

Aesthetics

Here's a bodybuilder (Arthur Peacock) at 40 and 80 (I think he's about 85 now). He actually looks BETTER at 80! Certainly the only 80-year old I've ever seen that I might want a fling with. Somehow he's avoided even having sagging skin.

No more being picked on

've had three girlfriends who've said they don't want to be seen with me publicly because they think I make them look fat by comparison, past FWBs don't want to sleep with me anymore because they don't feel attractive enough

R105, were you already bi at that time or did your interest in guys come later?

Have gyms always been gay hookup spots?

This thread makes me miss the gym.

What about non-steroid supplements and watching your macros. Doesn't that work?

I was very lean when I was younger but decided to bulk up. Supplements. Hours in the gym. Looking back now at 55 I wish I had stayed lean.

Why so R248? I'm not too far from your age and was thinking I need to go for more bulk.

Does bulk just get cumbersome in old age?

I'd have thought some bulk was beneficial in old age as it keeps your bones and joints strong, but overdoing it would probably be detrimental.

Also, guys who are older and really ripped/shredded end up looking even older and their skin looks worse, I think bulky is better from an aesthetic perspective too.

I think being thin and defined with muscles from regular lifting and cardio is ideal. If someone is having to force themselves to eat dramatically more calories and protein to maintain the muscle it doesn’t sound healthy long term to me.

What about muscles that aren't shredded or jacked. It's the low bodyfat that doesn't age well right?

R239: People with inefficient workout programs often waste a lot of time in the gym.

I'm 60. I workout (run or gym) for at least an hour every day. I get laid CONSTANTLY by hot guys half my age. And I'm a bottom.

It's worth it.

R255 can one bulk up to regain lost muscle mass after the age of 60?

R255 muscle daddies are all the rage, good for you!

What's the daddy age range before someone is decrepit?

Prob well into the 80's or early 90's.

Yes, to get this type of fanboys

R255 Stop stealing my men!!

I'd love to get destroyed by R260!

Hells yeah!

The must important muscle is mussy muscle

Explanation

fitness is worth it, no one needs big muscles to be attractive....oh and will someone kill the tiktok troll?

Muscles definitely are viewed by a lot of people as attractive today

R265 Damn, what a big Black guy!

I find tiktok and its members so weird.

What’s so weird about him? There are countless guys like him

Connotes dominance

This is why I have always preferred the lean, fit, and hairy body type. It is more natural, healthy, attractive, and attainable.

Naw. I like the Hot swole smooth aesthetics bros and male fitness models

To look like this, yes

Hells yeah

Dang

It's worth it to stay slim, to be fit and to eat a clean diet. It's not worth it to dedicate a disproportionate part of your life to the gym; it's definitely not worth it to exercise to the point of chronic injury or even disability, or endanger your health with steroids

Very worth it

Vaughn Walker is goals

Die young and leave a buff corpse.

Everything is temporary.

Aging is the art of learning to lose and let go of what you have. Today, people lose their minds doing everything they can do be timeless sculptures instead of living, aging beings. It's very sad.

Adolescence is very hard for most people who go through it. It's the process of changing from a tadpole to a salamander. We all accept that it happens and move on from it.

But now, no one sees middle age and later years as another transformation, but as a disease to be combatted and conquered. It's really a kind of collective insanity, no different than if preteens had surgeries to keep their bodies looking like children forever because maturity is an unacceptable option. That would be insane, right? But people do exactly that around age 30.

The buff 70 year olds in my gym are hot. Ripped abs in retirement. I love it!

[quote] Are Muscles Worth It?

depends, how much are you paying the escort?

Stop 🛑

I think they’re worth it. I am 39 this year. I’ve been working out regularly for 20 years now. I’ve been heavier and I’ve been leaner but I must say your life changes DRAMATICALLY when u commit to getting ripped. Hotter guys, more money, etc.

I don’t really have a problem with aging because younger guys are totally into a muscular guy that’s a bit older. I’m about 70% done with the Covid weight I gained and I want to get ripped again for 40. I had the best body of my entire life at 36 so I know it can be done again.

I’ve now hit the zone where I’m at that “final 10” to get shredded and I’m already seeing the difference in quality of guys, attention, etc.

Anyone who says that muscles and being in shape don’t matter doesn’t have muscles and has never been in truly peak form.

I stopped going to the gym for 17 months during the pandemic. I worked out at home with weights and bands, but I didn’t heavy weights. I lost comsidreanlr muscle. Just two months back at the gym Lifting heavy, I have gained a lot of muscle and my body composition has already noticeably changed. People are giving me compliments about my physique again, and I feel so much better and stronger.

Men naturally wanna be Alphas

Muscles are always worth it because they improve your appearance. We all know that (in addition to helping you get laid) it leads to hirings, promotions, clients and agreements. People like good looking people. So yes it is worth it.

Male attention

R288 this video is so true! Orientation is irrelevant, men always admire another man with muscles (usually more than women do).

Education

Not natty

Boom

For sure

R289 speaking as a bi lesbian-leaning woman, when I go for a male on occasion I prefer androgynous or twinkier men, height and chub in an average healthy range no real issue (just no blobs or giants). Curves on a lightly-muscled or slim man are so nice. Nothing worse to me than a beefy top-heavy Johnny Bravo shaped guy, though, whether short or tall or dark or light. The Wolverine look--short, cut, corded, hairy, grizzled--is the worst in my eyes.

Helps also if the guy has a youthful boyish face, smooth skin, big sparkly eyes, and at least some hair (shaggier/longer is preferable). Am a sucker for cute Bambi looks.

Imo charisma, confidence and the way you carry yourself i.e. presence is everything. At any shape or size. Sounds cliched and trite, but it's true.

Look at Orson Welles. He was a fat tub of pretentious bloviating lard, but he was also sexy with it, in demeanour and voice and personality and skill. When he spoke or performed or even walked in the room, no-one could tear their eyes and ears away. He was an interesting and expressive and learned person, with depth of understanding about who he was and the world around him. plus a sense of humour about it all. That's what makes a good attractive lover.

I love when old threads like this one get resurrected.

I loved reading R51’s post.

Thank you.

r72

[quote] As a woman, I love lifting heavy weights. It feels great. I’m not too extreme, but it’s been proven I’m now stronger than your average non-active man —no hormones and no special diet, either. Love that, too.

I think it's great you feel good, but I don't buy that claim

Yes, they are

Very worth it

Yumm

Hell yeah

If it's being done for appearances, like anything appearances related, it has an expiration date.

Libido and youth are conjoined, so yes, when people are totally consumed with getting laid as much as possible by as many people as possible is when they are young, and that is also when working out makes a person look sexually desirable.

Arnold Schwarzenegger and John Travolta are elderly now. Nothing would make them sexually appealing to anyone who doens't have an old-person fetish.

And there are other measures of what makes it 'worth it.' We only know who Schwarzenegger is because of the body he had when he was young. He became a multimillionaire movie star because of his body and he became governor of California because of his multimillionaire movie star status. So yes, it was worth it. Otherwise, he'd likely be an immigrant with a Hitler accent fixing cars or toilet drains.

Travolta's face and body and ability to dance made him millions of dollars and fulfilled his ego as a star. If he is legitimately brainwashed to believe in Scientology and thr Great Xenu, then his appearance while young also is directly responsible for his spiritual fulfillment, as Scientology seeks out and promotes conventionally attractive people to sell its hogwash. Had he not been a handsome and lithe young man, Xenu would have passed him over for someone prettier and he'd just be some bitter little roly-poly Italian Catholic.

Aesthetics

Hey OP, Arnold is not currently emaciated. Also, believe it or not, most people work out for physical fitness and health, and yes, vanity. But as you grow older and old working out sustains functionality and quality of life as almost no other activity. That is an empiric fact in the rehab and geriatric literature. I will lift weights, stretch and do cardio for as long as I can which thus far is 69 years since birth.

You question is kind of absurd.

Didn’t notice that this is a redirected thread.

Also if you work out regularly (and correctly) including sports- jogging, tennis, swimming etc) you will retain and even improve your physique into your 70s. AND retain your movement, balance and quality of life.