Unsolved murders/true crime

Zodiac Killer was William Mentzer, bodyguard to the stars, body guard to Larry Flynt at the time of Mentzer's arrest in 83 or 84.

McMartin preschool ritual abuse was real, but the number of victims was exaggerated by over-eager child psychologists.

Son of Sam murders were a satanic group, not Berkowitz alone. Son of Sam cult was part of same organization as William Mentzer/Zodiac.

Many of the mass murderers were probably part of psychological operation to terrify US public. It was Operation Phoenix in Vietnam, coming home after the war and using the same tactics in coordination with the CIA's Project Chaos.

Search for Ultimate Evil by Maury Terry, and Programmed to Kill by Dave McGowan.

Blondie Bumstead's maiden name was Boopadoop.

The East Area Rapist

Hi R1 or Mrs. Patrick Campbell/Erna.

Yes the East Area Rapist, or original night stalker is also intriguing R3.

This is for you R3.

I know who the Long Island Serial Killer is.

R1 sounds like a stupid frau re: satanic. It was Berkovitz. There's no Satanic anything or anybody. They're psychopaths.

I do wonder who killed the one man and all of those women who were prostitutes in NYC and their bodies wound up on Long Island, or if the same person or people did this in Atlantic City to prostitutes there?

It's people like R1 and all of the conspiracy schizotypals that make authority figures doubt people who really know something.

I can't stand you fucking people. The Egypt Air thread really exposed the freaks who post here.

You have a form of psychosis. Take a free online test and get on meds.

I have not even read any comments about Egypt Air either on DL, facebook, or for news articles as they're filled with nutters like r1.

R8, the Atlantic city perp is not the Long Island Serial Killer.

The LISK worked craigslist but he also worked Times Square area outside of his office building of Citibank. He roofied women. He laced their coffee he would buy for them from the deli on the north corner across from his office.

Was just reading about the dismemberment murder of 19 year old gay/bisexual Brooklyn man Rashawn Brazell

R11 here. Just so everyone knows, nobody cares who LISK is. No one. Not even Michelle McNamara who died just recently. The author of Lost Girls doesn't care. The FBI does not care. The cops on LI do not care. Nobody cares. Nada. No one.

Tell me one person who cares. June 7th 2007. Nobody cares.

R11 so who is the LISK then if they or you know where he works?

R11 are you the same person who claimed to know who a certain serial killer was in this thread?

R14, JB

Tell us more about the LISK and the ACSK R16.

2007, the year of wine, roses, drunken stupidity and leaving oneself vulnerable to psychopaths.

I know nothing about ACSK. Or at least, I think I know nothing.

[quote]I know who the Long Island Serial Killer is.

THEN SPILL! who the hell is it? Are his initials JMM?

I got away on 6/7/2007, a Sunday. The roofies didn't completely disable me. Maureen wasn't so lucky.

This is the ACSK.

R20, you moron. Read the god damned thread and R16! Are you a retarded aspie?

R22, stalk website appears to be abandoned.

Oh for fuck's sake, not another of these psycho-filled, hysteria/paranoia threads.

Weren't the last 20 of them enough for you, freak?

R25, OP is a shut in freak but I'm not. I'm calling TIPS.

Datalounge has figured out who EONS is on an old thread re: Michelle McNamara who dubbed him the Golden State Killer. She recently passed away. She couldn't figure it out on her own.

People here put it together especially with his likeness to K.Cameron, Titanic producer. Her input with his ranch hand knots and DL's suggestions that he stole pennies used in horse watering troughs. Someone else here (last summer) connected him through the millionaire who developed the housing development in which he stalked. The developer owned a horse ranch and wasn't a hands on father. Find the thread and do the math.

EONS?

R28, you moron. ERONS, EONS whatever. Look it up! Freak.

Ah. I see that R27 is completely delusional, well all righty then.

Meds, dear, they are in your cabinet for a reason - take them.

Wow, this thread died an early, ugly death. Too many freaks i guess.

I don't understand why there are so many threads on this same topic.

Because we have one obsessive DLer who constantly starts these fucking threads (among others) and we have several DL regular nuts who feed her obsession. It's an unfortunate cycle that will continue until the obsessive gets banned or finds another group to harass/bore with her obsessions.

I don't think she really gives a fuck about forensic psychology or serial killers. It's just one of the few subjects where she can pretend she's not a moron and it's one where she can get other people to actually talk to her even if it's just in passing.

It's sad, obviously, but she's such an aggressive, obnoxious cunt that it's hard to feel pity for her.

I see that R30 isn't on the meds needed which would be Adderral, you lazy SOB.

This place is like ground zero for obsessives.

I agree R33 because she doesn't even read the clues.

I am terrified of cereal killers.

The obsessives that obsess on policing forums are the most fucked.

R31, right? Cause you say so.

I wonder if that crazy housewife wanna be profiler posts here. Pat Brown, correct?

Why are you freaking out so badly R33? You sound like a fucking nutcase, seek help immediately! If you don't like a thread, stay out of it...I will never understand losers who feel that they need to comment on every thread they don't like. Who has that kind of time? LOSERS with nothing else to do apparently!

I looked up the ACSK case and came upon a blog by some woman who swears her ex friend is the killer. She made a very intriguing argument but upon clicking around I came to the realization that she might be crazy. She claimed certain dates had meaning and it became all convoluted. I believe her friend is a killer but not the Atlantic City case.

R41, you're right. Losers who want control of an anonymous website they aren't running.

If you freaks are going to post these threads over and over and over again to feed your obsessions, Datalounge regulars are going to mock and trash you for it. That's the way of things around here and it has always been the way of things around here. Deal with it or get the fuck out.

I don't think it's an issue of anyone trying to control the website. But it is kind of weird to keep posting the same topic repeatedly. I really don't see the point, which is why it comes off as just obsessive.

It also indicates an inability and/or impolite refusal to use the search function before starting a new thread.

Hard to find crime scene photos and descriptions but the ACSK posed the women face down with their butts in the air as if "presenting"

R44, uh, who are you?

The ACSK first killed an older woman who I would think represents his mom while he was young before she bleached up her hair. Then he killed younger and then older then younger. I found this interesting.

Villisca Axe Murders.

R46 is correct. It would not come off as loony if you just posted in an existing topic. I doubt most people want to rehash the same information over and over.

I'm just someone who has been a member of the Datalounge for about 20 years, R48. This nonsense about "why are you posting in threads you don't like" is not appropriate here. Pointless bitchery in any and all threads, dolls, this is the Way of the Datalounge and it has always been our way. It doesn't suit everyone but we aren't going to change our style after all these years, praise Jebus.

I have had an academic interest in forensic psychology for 35 years. This cheap, low-brow garbage is just murderpron for fat, bored, spinsters and housewives to jill off to. Enjoy it if you wish, I enjoy giving the OP shit about it.

What do you think of The Villisca Murders, r52?

R52, please..your take on the Long Island and ACSK murders. Please.

Yet nobody has bothered to mention the response at R16.

R52, shouldn't you be all over that?

R52, posting in threads you don't like is not the hallmark of Datalounge but is of losers.

Who let the 12 year old in?

Keddie Murders

I just called Nassau County crime stoppers tip line @ 800-244-8477 and they have banker's hours. Then you have to hold on forever for someone to answer.

Nothing was true about the McMartin School....not one damn part of that story was true, asshole

Is it possible to run into two serial killers within months of each other? If you're an attractive naive drunk, yes it is.

Not necessarily a crime....but the disappearance of West Point cadet Richard Cox has always intrigued me

Of course it wasn't true, R60, and sensible people know that.

These conspiracy/crime morons are just lonely freaks. Seriously, they live to make shit up, indulge in wild speculation/fantasy and bother legitimate law enforcement and investigators who want nothing to do with them.

They need hobbies, meds, rent-boys, another cake, an education, something to fill their empty minds besides this bullshit.

I'm surprised no has mentioned The Sprinfield Three aka Three White Trash Missouri Women Go Missing case.

R63, I've found that to be true. Not one could ever help with anything. These people make great allies for the killers.

r9 continues to confuse TWA 800 with the suicidal Egypt Air pilot.

Before anyone scoffs, it would behoove them to read the tomes they scorn. Maury Terry is a persuasive writer.

R66, I'm R9 and I know flight 800 was a missile shot from a raft with an outboard motor. The witnesses interviewed by the local news crews all said the same thing and I viewed it live. I'm on Long Island. Everyone interviewed saw a rocket ascend and were waiting for the firework burst to follow. Following the disaster, local fire crews and police were blocked off and feds were crawling everywhere.

Also, like 9/11, fire crews from every town rushed out east. Because there were so many sirens I put the TV on and there were the witnesses being interviewed..all claiming fire works.

Also, flight avianca that crashed near Cold Spring Harbor/Oyster Bay Cove. That plane went right over my house. Two friends were helping me study for a test and all of a sudden a big gust of wind came down on the house. We were like, WTF was that? I was in Huntington. Then all of the sirens got crazy and we turned on the local news. We even considered going to help.

R66, Pierre Salinger came out of retirement to push some Navy plane propaganda. The spin put on to hide the terrorist attack was magnificent. We had the Olympics going on at the time of the disaster so it was all hush hush. It took until 9/11 for the world to know the unmitigated truth of terror attacks.

R31?

R66?

R52? Guess everyone is eating their hats for dinner. Add salsa.

Flight 800 was taken down by our navy...even though the government did back flips trying to prove that was not the case. It was the case...and fuck Clinton for lying about it.

R52 if you work in academia, or are an armchair forensics person how do you find the time to constantly post on datalounge and be a troll?

R74, right and the Navy took down an airliner because..?

You must be in flyover country because everyone knows planes hug the Island in and out of JFK. So no, not the Navy.

Do you hear yourself? Next you'll say the Navy was doing exercises in the well known path of every flight leaving aND coming from Europe.

What an aspie thread.

How did this thread go from unsolved crimes to unfounded conspiracy theories about the Egypt flight?

The youtube link of the East area rapist was creepy.

Because nobody is answering the call at Crime Stoppers Nassau County, long island.

Did anyone figure out who the Golden State Killer is yet from the clues above? No. Why? Because you're lazy.

[quote] [R52]?

What?

[quote] Guess everyone is eating their hats for dinner. Add salsa.

No idea.

So, do you think she offed herself?

If people know the LISK's name and place of work why has he not been caught yet?

What is the McMartin school? Does it have to do with satanism?

[quote] or are an armchair forensics person how do you find the time to constantly post on datalounge and be a troll?

R75 naively outed her fat ass.

Yes, r83, and it attracts the munchausen frauen who salivate over elaborate child molestation scenarios. Usually it ends in tears and candles made from rendered fat from murdered babies.

R82, beyond me! I've contacted Tips in Spring of 2011. Bimbo fielding calls dismissed me because I could not describe if his hair was brown or dark brown. I kid you not. Long Island is a really backwards place but people don't realize it because it's right outside of the center of the Universe. It's mostly the descendants of stupid immigrant peasants who settled here less than 150 years ago.

[quote] [R52] if you work in academia, or are an armchair forensics person how do you find the time to constantly post on datalounge

I come and go, like most normal Dataloungers. I haven't been here in days, you obsessed stalker moron.

[quote] and be a troll?

Someone who notices that you are a saggy, lonely spinster who is creepily obsessed with murders and conspiracies isn't a troll, dear. It's pretty much everyone who comes into contact with you, ya freak.

R84 has got to be 3k pounds in weight. What would that be in metric?

Stop fighting guys. Do you really want me to go down the whole scenario? Seems like nobody is really invested except R82.

Still wondering who murdered Robert Wone in DC in 2006. Probably the third wheel massage therapist Dylan Michael Ward, who may be in the Miami Beach area.

Kinda off-topic but I'm really sad about Michelle McNamara's death. She was a very good writer and her book about EARONS would have been awesome

120k less than you, r82

R90, she really wasn't that bright.

r92, are you one of the conspiracy theories trolls?

R86, get a hold of yourself! Just give us your take on the killers not caught.

No R93, I can't stomach them. I'm just posting about what I know. You can see me bashing them at the top of this thread.

Not sure where the "not bright" comment is coming from. She was obviously an intelligent woman and an interesting writer. People here have a tendency to accuse others of being "not bright" for saying something they don't agree with. Of course, thanks to the anonymity of the internet, everyone here has a 160 IQ and a degree from Oxford.....

He said "I live on fire island"...I said "that's not fire island but the Oak Beach Inn" aka OBI. No ferry needed so not fire island.

R96, she couldn't piece facts together..instead obsessing with cufflinks and an old detective. Please, people here pieced that case together and then she went and tried to claim credit for it last summer. Unknown to her, some people here contacted SF authorities with the theory while also contacting her. She didn't realize others contacted SF authorities and presented their theories as hers and she got caught.

R96, everyone agreed with Michelle as her astute observation of the ranch hand knots but they took it further because they were west coast and knew who the developer was in the neighborhood. They also figured out why he stole pennies. Pennies are used as copper supplements in horse troughs at ranches. So while she caught the significance of the ranch hand knots people here went with it and filled in the missing pieces. Problem for her is that she didn't want to share credit with Datalounge sleuthers. Got caught trying to take credit and therefore didn't finish her investigation and spiraled down into a wicked depression. Her shame of being caught out by SF authorities was her downfall. They viewed her as opportunistic and loathsome. That's the fucking truth.

Please, get real - datalounge did not solve that crime. No one did.

Psssssst, stop it r100.

SNL is crappy tonight.

R86 now you're just describing yourself since you yourself posted that you obsess about true crime and forensics, and have done this for decades.

No, he described you, r102.

R100, no. It was a datalounge greatness with some real gems here. Not the moronic fraus of Websleuths. I'm gonna go looking for that thread and you can read it yourself. The DL did it Not Websleuths but DL. There are a lot of morons posting here and a lot of wise, logical thinking people. DL solved that case. The authorities are trying to guarantee a conviction before indictment and conviction. The perp is a millionaire so it's more of a challenge. They know who he is now all b/c some DLer was wise enough to tell us who the father was who developed that neighborhood. Then they found out he had a horse ranch. Just logical deduction IT takes many minds but Michelle was chagrined and wanted sole credit. She was a regular here.

R31, jackass.

Why would internet murder obsessives hang out here and be "regulars" on a gay gossip website, R104? I believe your claim that they were/are here because I've seen some bizarre, over-invested and very aggressive attitudes about discussing crime in these damn threads. None of them are gay. It just makes no sense to me.

Why wouldn't they be on the zillions of murder-dedicated websites that endlessly discuss all these cases in excruciating detail?

Bump

OP hasn't all of this already been covered in your earlier identical topics? I really don't get why it all needs to be constantly repeated. Is this something your inner voices are telling you to do?

What earlier identical topics?

Shouldn't the LISK calls go to the Suffolk County hotline, not the Nassau?

R106, because it's an anonymous and largely unregulated board.

That much was clear around 2005 regarding fangurls in general. The soap operas even had their own sub forum. They came here to wage fan wars that weren't allowed at other sites.

I'm sure other online communities do the same here.

Teen's daring escape may have solved two cold cases

R106 = Everything that's wrong with the site in its current form. Seriously, we have the most vapid, uninteresting threads now. Why not start another porn star or guys presenting x thread and run it up to 600 replies through posting spam?

Look, I just called suffolk crimes toppers at 800220-8477 and the rude person named Kerby just attempted to berate me

Called her a stupid cunt.

Shut ya twat lips and listen for a change. She blocked my number.

Yeah Gary Ridgewood was cleared as well. Long island peasant stock. I hate them. Always have to follow up because they can't do their jobs

Her name was Kerry.

R110, just did. Come get me. Hug me.

R106, ever read Websleuths. Apparently not.

The 'Zodiac Killer' was TWO people -- both of them were COPS.

[Inside information]

The Gilgo Beach killer has stopped using his dumping ground now that it's been discovered. After all these years.

He's moved on to another location and continues to kill.

R119, just called back. Apologized for calling Kerry 'c' word as she claimed. Could imagine a public servant getting all personal? Gave me # for homicide but she softened.

^that was at suffolk tips 8 p.m. Monday. The fuck?

R119, of course.

R118 how do you know this? The people who survived or witnessed the zodiac killer said it was a single man, not two men.

So where is the new location r119? Why do people think the serial killer is the doctor who lives in the gated community near Gilgo beach Dr. Peter Hackett?

Was Shannan Gilbert a victim of the LISK? Or a woman who was manic, on drugs, scared, and who drowned in a marsh?

The Bricca family murders in Cincinnati 1966. It will be 50 years this September. A veterinarian was the chief suspect and he alluded police for years because he would not submit to a second interview. Apparently he was not advised of his rights during the 1st one and the case was never solved, no one was brought to trial. The Vet was having an affair with the Mother, a beautiful 25 year old Linda Bricca. Look it up on Google...it veers into a netherworld of the Zodiac Killer possibly being involved, and other murders unsolved in Chicago just weeks before.

There is a segment about the Bricca family murder in the book Queen City Gothic. It is pretty interesting.

So who was or is the zodiac killer?

The Villisca axe murders are unsolved.

Who was Jack the ripper?

Queen City Gothic is an excellent book about murder cases in Cincinnati from the late 19th century to the early 70's. I think the man who wrote the book is family.

More unsolved murders.

R123, how do I know the true identities of the 'Zodiac Killer'? As I mentioned in R118, I received inside information from a source who developed a track record *over a period of years* of providing accurate and reliable information.

My source died in 2010, but from 1999 to 2009 he told me all kinds of things that the public is not supposed to know. If I shared that information here, many of the smaller minds at DL would call me a liar, so I wonder if I should bother.

About the 'Zodiac' killings:

1.) It was a government covert operation.

2.) There were TWO killers, both of them were cops. They did not do the killings together, one of them did *some* of the killings, while 'Killer #2' did some of the others.

I got to know my source well over a period of several years. I met him in person, and visited his home. I have no doubt that the information he gave me was truthful and accurate.

^^^^'Killer #1' did some of the killings, while 'Killer #2' did the rest [I made a mistake when I said that 'Killer #2' did *some* of the other killings].

r132, did your inside source also tell you about Amal Clooney's ISIS connection?

Did it ask you to sing at the airport? Did you LOL and modestly confess you weren't a singer?

Did your source give you shitty shoes in Vegas?

R134, you are clearly one of the small minds at DL. I guess your poor mother was infected with the Zika virus before she gave birth to you. Too bad her boyfriend was too cheap to pay for an abortion.

Who was that little girl - blonde - who was killed in Denver? Parents did it maybe.

You mean Jon Benet Ramsey R136? I don't think they did it; but they might know who did, so maybe it was a family friend or other family member? Or they blame themselves for leaving the house unlocked.

This documentary is on tonight on investigation discovery.

I wonder if they are connected to the Rhoden family murders.

Amy Bradley

I have a serious question for the True Crime enthusiasts, and it's this: Could you dismember a human corpse if you had to? Cut it into pieces small enough to be portable and disposable?

The question of whether this takes special training has arisen in both murder mysteries and certain true crime cases, there are cases where some people insist the killer had to be a doctor or a butcher. But I'm neither a doctor nor a butcher and I'm pretty sure I could take a corpse to pieces without much trouble, IMHO my good butcher's cleaver and a basic understanding of human anatomy ought to be enough.

I wouldn't have the stomach for it. I think most people would not be very good at it but I suppose butchers, hunters and surgeons would have an easier time with it. It adds an extra level of depravity to the crime. I am not sure a person with a conscience could handle it.

I'm watching the doc about the Chillicothe women tonight. I've read about that case - very sad

I'm reading this book right now. Very interesting as it explores the known science behind the phenomenon.

My conclusion so far: I could DEFINITELY kill someone and get away with it.

That book has bad ratings/reviews R144, what is it that you like about it?

I am not sure that all of the Chillicothe victims are connected. The bodies found close together probably are though. The woman who was shot seems to be unrelated.

It was Mitt Romney R132

I'm watching The Vanishing Women, I have to agree with r146

I agree r146. I think that the real serial killer in Killicothe is still out there, and waiting to stoke again, or will kill again in another area instead.

Has R1 started AA yet?

R16, so you're saying the LISK's initials are JB? Well, who is that? And are you also saying you were almost one of his victims on 6/7/2007??? How did you escape?

I'm wondering how the person who supposedly knows who the LISK is escaped and is still alive as well?

Or the person who claimed to know about who some other serial killer is and they supposedly contacted the police who did nothing about what they said, escaped as they wrote about in this thread?

OK this is the thread where in the confessions thread someone claimed to know who killed these women.

Getting back to the subject , I have always been hoping they would find Etan Patz . I was in middle school when he disappeared and I remember it made big news . All the adults and kids were talking about it , and we were in Florida !

Everyone was freaked out .

Speaking of missing , I doubt they're ever gonna find Jimmy Hoffa.

Berry Louis Cannon (March 22, 1935 – February 17, 1969) was an American aquanaut who served on the SEALAB II and III projects of the U.S. Navy. Cannon died of carbon dioxide poisoning while attempting to repair SEALAB III. It was later found that his diving rig's baralyme canister, which should have absorbed the carbon dioxide Cannon exhaled, was empty.

According to John Piña Craven, the U.S. Navy's head of the Deep Submergence Systems Project of which SEALAB was a part, SEALAB III had been "plagued with strange failures at the very start of operations". According to Craven, while the other divers were undergoing the weeklong decompression, repeated attempts were made to sabotage their air supply by someone aboard the command barge. Eventually, a guard was posted on the decompression chamber and the men were recovered safely. A potentially unstable suspect was identified by the staff psychiatrist but the culprit was never prosecuted. Craven suggests this may have been done to spare the Navy bad press so soon after the USS Pueblo incident. As a result, it has been suggested that Cannon's death was a murder.

Oh for fuck's sake.

You should find an area where a serial killer is operating, get out there and investigate - hands on. Really call attention to it. What could go wrong?

r132: a government op to kill these people for what reason? Not doubting it necessarily, just curious.

154:Richard Kuklinski said he was involved in the Hoffa murder and it was a mob hit. The Gambinos, or another mafia family that started with the letter "G".

My favorite unsolved crime, or at least one of them, is The Texarkana Murders of 1946.

Also, Kuklinski said his body was put in a car in a junk yard, crushed, and was sent to Japan.

The mother of a possible Long Island serial killer victim was just murdered....by her OTHER daughter

damn wtf?! That's crazy R159 may Mari, and Shannan and the rest of the murdered women rest in peace.

The parking lot polaroid still terrifies me. I don't believe it's a hoax or Tara Calico.

There is a rumor that Tara Calico was hit and killed by a truck driven by teen boys and that they disposed of her body. Both of her parents have passed away and they never got closure.

R7 and r9, please do some independent research before criticizing. Maury Terry's book clearly shows that "Son of Sam" was more than one person (eyewitness police sketches varied significantly), and notes how all the shootings were by bright lights (the better for filming).

[quote]I'm surprised no has mentioned The Sprinfield Three aka Three White Trash Missouri Women Go Missing case.

lol. The mother and daughter had total white trash face. I remember someone here in a thread said that their stepfather knew the family of Stacey McCall and that McCall wasn't really close friends with the Streeter girl.

This ongoing Howard Beach Karina Vatrino case is intriguing me very much.

These serial killer threads are sometimes really fascinating.

But there's been this influx of peoople who don't seem to want people gossiping. It's really peculiar.

Someone should start a thread on the Dyatlov Pass incident!

I find the murder of former Miss Hollywood Jill Ann Weatherwax. It's such a sad story.

Serial Killers still on the run...

Nicole Brown Simpson & Ron Goldman.

Bump

Bump

Taman Shud. That's a ripper.

I read about the Jennifer Pan case in Canada. She set up a hit on her tiger parents. The father survived and the mother died.

After all these years, we still don't know who stole the Kishka.

The EAR/ONS case-Honestly, I think the authorities really fucked up. This guy was no criminal mastermind and likely ended up in a psychiatric hospital. The discussion board dedicated to this case is quite creepy. The posters almost worship him.

Yeah, the finale sucked.

"Honestly, I think the authorities really fucked up. This guy was no criminal mastermind and likely ended up in a psychiatric hospital."

Well, this was before DNA, when serial killings were harder to solve. I seriously doubt he is in a psychiatric hospital, I think it's more likely he's in jail for another offense.

[quote]The parking lot polaroid still terrifies me. I don't believe it's a hoax or Tara Calico.

I was listening to one of those true crime podcasts and Tara Calico was the subject of an episode. I looked up more info after listening and I saw polaroid and it was creepy as fuck.

Mary Boyle was a 6 yr old girl who vanished from Donegal in 1977.

The murder and decapitation of two West Virginia coeds in 1970.

The Oklahoma Girt Scout camp murders

1985 Mineral, Washington murders aka Tube Sock Killings. Two couples killed in Mineral, Washington. In both cases, a tube sock was tied around the woman's neck.

How wrong was, [R176]?!? Well, about the GSK being a dumb (likely) mental patient anyway...

Does anyone have anything new to contribute to this thread?

Only in response to r163 -- chiming in with them, a colleague of mine once opined that he thought he knew who the other guy was, and talked to me at length about it.

I can't remember the suspect's (for lack of a better way of putting it) name (as shorthand for the guy, my pal always used "secret Son of Sam" in private conversation with me, as we share a morbid sense of humor), but if memory serves, he's still alive, he's Hispanic, and he's got money and power -- he was the heir of something big, a wine company I think, and had lots of banking and government connections. He once had a taste for entertainment, went to school with my colleague, and threw 1.5 mil in goods/services/cash at his early work, but on another occasion, he pointed a gun directly at my then-late-teens colleague's forehead, so six of one, half-a-dozen of the other; the guy's personality can best be described as Richard Ramirez on crack. Had a big hang-up about the mental health industry too.

During the Summer of Sam, there were several occasions when my colleague remembers watching or listening to an initial news report about one of the murders, and this guy would then show up shortly thereafter -- to a business meeting, hang-out, whatever -- in a distressed or disturbed state (sweaty, breathless, unfocused, etc.) not inconsistent with that of someone who had been involved with some serious shit, and he began to get suspicious, especially when he saw the composite sketch of the killer. (He once showed me a photograph of this guy as well, and it looked more like the police drawing than David Berkowitz ever did.) But he could never prove it.

Not that I'm subscribing to r1's Satanic panic bullshit, just that there is at least one candidate for the accomplice out there.

All those years OJ spent incarcerated for that Vegas robbery = he lost time to find Ron and Nicole's real killer(s).

I'm obsessed with Maura Murray. Did she die? Was she kidnapped? Did she just run off?

My theory about what happened to Maura Murray is that some psycho just happened to be driving by, saw a crime of opportunity, and grabbed her. The police dogs lost her scent in the middle of the road, so she was likely forced into a vehicle. Sad, sad story.