To the lovers of fine arts on DL - what are your favourite painters, books, periods, photographers? Where should an art virgin with scant access to galleries or museums of any times start?
Art History 101
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Neoclassicism with Jacques-Louis David! So many dramas!
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After failing five times to win the French Academy's Prix de Rome (protesting his 1772 loss with a hunger strike lasting a two-and-a-half days), Jacques-Louis David finally won it in 1774 and traveled to Rome for a five-year stay beginning in 1775. There, he painted this Study of a Man in 1778 when he was thirty. The painting is also known as Patroclus, who was Achilles' lover......
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Masters of Photography:
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I often find "B-list" artists, so to speak, more interesting than the super famous ones. That being said, here are my favourite "A-listers", in roughly chronological order:
Jan van Eyck
Pieter Bruegel the Elder
Jan Vermeer Van Delft
Caspar David Friedrich
Vincent Van Gogh
Giorgio De Chirico
I love Academic art, and find it very underrated (because it used to be the conservative status quo opposing/opposed by the avantgarde) - it's due for a reappraisal imo.
I haven't read it myself yet, but E.H. Gombrich's "The Story of Art" is generally considered [italic] the[/italic] classic general art history.
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Caspar David Friedrich
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Thank you all! Honestly, I binged watched the first two seasons of Portrait Artist Of The Year and am fascinated by the process. In each 4-hour heat the artists painted (usually painted - a couple drew and one guy did lino cuts) a celebrity. They didn't know during the first episode that they would be painting celebrities so it was kind of adorable to see their shock at seeing Robert Lindsay and Juliet Stevenson and Alison Steadman turn up to model. The winners prizes received commissions to paint Hilary Mantel and Alan Cumming for major institutions, and both models were thrilled with their likenesses.
As a young teen I was obsessed with the movie ARTEMISIA. Something about scantily clad Italians with fabulous dark hair.
How the fuck does J-L David get that sort of anatomically correct muscle definition? Or, rather, paint it?
The B-Listers I am certainly interested in.
As a tourist in Houston visiting the Rothko chapel, I happened upon a nearby exhibition of ... I can't recall his name, but the guy with the hat and the apple. What "school" is he a part of?
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Margritte -- the Belgian surrealist did the apple/hat guy.
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Thanks for the Masters of Photography link. I recall studying Lange at school.
Funnily enough, when I was in uni was trying to look grown up for my parents' impending visit and grabbed a coffee table book from the stack of art books my local bookstore had on sale I ended up grabbing one with a nicely lit black and white nude. It turned out to be a David Hamilton who just that weekend was brought up as a similarly bad influence when Sally Mann got bad press for her photographs of her kids! Not the greatest timing!
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Thanks for that r8!
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Caspar David Friedrich fan here too, R6. His moody, contemplative, German landscapes appealed to me as a sullen teen, and still do to this day. They make me feel so alone but uplifted at once. This is definitely his most popular work.
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Margritte invented Cousin It ten years before The Addams Family debuted on TV.
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Sadly, many Friedrichs were destroyed in Allied bombings during ww2
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Ferdinand Hodler (1853-1918)
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Is WAYS OF SEEING worth a read? It was referenced multiple times in college and now I have no access to an academic library, I would have to purchase either the book or the TV show.
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Stuckists AN ANTIDOTE TO THE GHASTLY TURNER PRIZE (2008)
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John Singer Sargent
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Rubens - Maria Serra Pallavicino
Rubens was impressed by the lifestyle of the wealthy, aristocratic families of Genoa. For some reason, he painted the parrot in a strange way, like a caricature.
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Ed Ruscha - Lisp
Gimmicks, like writing with water, impress me.
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Master of Calamarca - Angel Letiel Dei
This is how gay men would dress if they didn't have to fit in to straight society.
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las Meniñas the best painting in history?
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Excellent video, R25.
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Camille Paglia’s “Glittering Images: A Journey Through Art From Egypt to ‘Star Wars,’ ”
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R19, I'm also a fan of John Singer Sargent's 'elongated' style of Edwardian portraiture. Likewise, I've always admired Howard Chandler Christy's evocations of Gatsby-esque era luxury. Here's his portrait of first lady Grace Coolidge.
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Always a favorite!
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Thirty-six Views of Mount Fuji -- Hokusai
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Thirty-six Views of Mount Fuji (Hiroshige)
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I think the Venetian Renaissance was somewhat upstaged by the goings on in Florence and Rome. Giorgione and Bellini are both wonderful examples of the Venetian aesthetic. Especially "The Tempest".
Dutch Golden Age:
Check out Jacob Van Ruisdael. Breathtaking stuff. The Impressionists owe him a huge debt. When I have a billion dollars I'll have one of his dreamy paintings hanging on my wall. Uncle Saloman was great too.
Other good great landscape guys to check out: Whistler's Nocturnes (but his portraits were kind of crappy) and Turner.
This grouping isn't by period but by theme. It's kind of all over the place but the stylistic through line is there:
Durer DaVinci Zurbaran (stunning still lifes) De La Tour (nobody does candlelight better) Andrew Wyeth Thomas Eakins
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Lincoln and T.R. were included with Nixon and Dubya, and the others. Oh the horror!
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A Princess of the House of Naples - Francesco Laurana
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Another vote for Kandinsky
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Art began in 1872 when Monet painted "Impression, Sunrise" and ended in 1956 when Pollock drove into a tree.
The entire estate was sold to the rich by Warhol. Art is now bought and sold like pork bellies.
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I was at the National Gallery of Art recently.
God, that place is beyond beautiful. I can spend hours there (and have).
Renoir is my guy.
They have many of the ones R5 listed there. I took pictures of them, too. 😛
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Following up on R8, another amazing Belgian surrealist, Paul Paul Delvaux Too bad The Art Institute of Chicago keeps his Masterpiece "In The Village of The Mermaids" in its archives. It used to be in the main surrealism gallery, but not for years, especially now that it is cafes and shops and less art.
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Just one Paul. I didn't type that, I swear.
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Remember the days when they prohibited photos in museums? Why is it that this is allowed today? Was it always a retarded rule? Or was there a valid reason for it?
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I was also at the Church of the Immaculate Conception and there is a display of chairs where the last few popes have sat. We could take pictures but without flash photography.
I guess they figure the bright lights will degrade the material? Maybe they figure only easily-impressed tourists (like me 🤓) will take pictures?
Regardless, the docent was so happy that I was enjoying the pictures so much. He said a lot of people go and walk around but don't appreciate or even understand what they are looking at.
I saw some idiot walk by and glance at Renoir's A Girl With A Watering Can as if he was walking past a movie poster or something equally unremarkable. I could look at that painting forever.
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Joan Crawford, photographed by Ruth Harriet Louise
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Dorian Leigh by Cecil Beaton
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Fort Peck Dam by Margaret Bourke-White
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My favorite class in college.
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OP you are sort of a lost cause if you don't know how to learn about a major topic in world civilisation. Nor how vast it is. Just go your local library and get a book on art history. A general college textbook would do. Or a splashy big book with beautiful reproductions and a good easy ons some period. Then, IF you develop an interest, you can easily read and look further. You do realise ALL the major world museums have very helpful websites and high-definition reproductions of their masterpieces, with little essays on many of them. You have PLENTY of access to museums, virtually, and for free.
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Also, any decent sized American city will have a museum with a good collection as will many colleges and universities. You cant be all that far from one.
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Horizon Ocean Blue by Richard Diebenkorn
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The BBC series Simon Schama's Power of Art is excellent for your purposes, OP. It can often be found on YouTube.
A Little History of Art, mentioned up thread, would be a nice and broad compliment to the BBC episodes.
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Lavender Mist, Number One by Jackson Pollock
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More Mark Rothko
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I love the energy of Mondrian's Broadway Boogie Woogie.
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R50, R51, R53, R54 and R55, those paintings were posted on previous art threads. Please DO make an effort, sweetie.
Why don't you post something really impressive like a Tom of Finland drawing or a joky Donald Trump like you did on this thread?
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Travelling on my holiday! I have narrowed down my museums visits to ones I have never seen before.
What are your top 5 essential works at...
The Prado in Madrid - www.museodelprado.es/en/the-collection
The Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam - www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en
The Victoria and Albert in London - www.vam.ac.uk/collections
And, if I have time...
The Tate Britain in London - www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-britain
The National Gallery in London - www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/explore-the-paintings/30-highlight-paintings
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Our top five won't be your top five.
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Another lazy thread about the fine arts on DL. It's so bloody irritating. Can't anyone start a thread where people discuss the topic seriously and go beyond the usual canon name dropping and the modernist -isms? Why not talk about the auction houses? Traditional ones like Sotheby's and Christie's and the online versions such as Paddle 8 or the global art market network with its biennials, fairs and specialist publications. Strangely enough, many museum directors and curators are gay but they never get talked about on DL. It's such a wasted opportunity as I'm sure someone could spill on people like him:
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OP, this story is an important primer on the nature of contemporary art, i.e. hucksterism.
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R61 again. Another suggestion could be to discuss people like Anthony Blunt one of the most memorable directors at the Courtauld Institute in London; at some point Surveyor of the King's/Queen's pictures? Also double agent spying for the Russians and nearly tried for treason under Thatcher's government. World expert on Poussin and super gay to boot?
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Btw R61 is DR NICHOLAS CULLINAN director of the National Portrait Gallery in London
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But I want it all splained to me. I have no aesthetic intelligence whatsoever. I want to see the "top five" then head over to a GOURMET restaurant. I heard they eat snails in Paris. It disgusts me but I just might try one. I am gonna get one of those french breads, too.
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R64 But he's a ginger and maybe uncut. That disgusts me too, like snails. Do all those nudie statues have uncut dicks? If so, I don't know if I will like them, or see their beauty with disgusting dicks on them.
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Babe, they are nudes not naked bodies. Nudes are a pictorial genre like portraiture or still lives or landscapes; they are not supposed to be sexually arousing.
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Fuck off r65
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I went to the Kimball Museum in Fort Worth, specifically because it had been featured by Sister Wendy.
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Can someone recommend some good introductory art history books?
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VanGogh, Aubrey Beardsley, Toulouse-Lautrec, Gustav Klimt. In general, the artists of the Symbolist movement, an example of which appears below: Death and the Grave Digger by Carlos Schwabe..
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Modigliani. His style is not able to be classified - Cubism with a bit of Dada and Neoclassicism.
I just like the long necks and the pupil-less eyes.
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R56 Studio Line from L'Oreal
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Porcelain seated bodhisattva, late 13th–early 14th century, China - Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York.
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Fairy and immortal boy, 19th century, China - made of coral. The Met
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Listening to the Waves by Sakiyama Takayuki, 2004
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[quote]Can someone recommend some good introductory art history books?
This looks good: The Visual Arts: A History by Hugh Honour and John Fleming
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martin kemp on u tube, is great bout art, he is a da vinci scholar....
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Who’s the guy that paints with his dick??
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^^^ So many guys.
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Celestial dancer, India 11th century.
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[quote]Who’s the guy that paints with his dick??
I just googled it - Pricasso. Hilarious name.
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An example of Pricasso's oeuvre.
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The heavyweights I tend be drawn to are Chagall, Botera, and Van Gogh.
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OP - first get a history of art book such that you understand the evolution and different periods and can recognize works by the great masters. It has to have illustrations, though I suspect online there are possibilities too but make sure it is a chronological read. From Antiquity until the present day. It is fun and so worth it.
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This is an old thread, R86. Everyone before R70 has died of covid by now.
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The Three Graces by James Pradier
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The artist for our times, the late great Zdzislaw Beksinski
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Nah, I don't think things are that grim. Maybe in Europe during World War II.
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All art museums are online and you can virtually visit them for free. Also, there are plenty of art documentaries on the various streaming services. Find an artist that speaks to you and go from there.
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R90 here's a photo from Oregon.
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I'm not denying that wild fires are getting worse with climate change, R92, but brush fires happen every year on the West Coast and though they cause a lot of damage to nature and property, there isn't a huge loss of life. I would think more people die each year in the U.S. from tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.
Even in the worst case scenario, I doubt coronavirus deaths will be as bad as the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918 and definitely not as bad as the bubonic plague epidemics of the Middle Ages.
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Oh my. How grim.
"Purgatory" from Les Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry
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For Abstract Expressionism, you can’t really beat Franz Kline. I’ve seen two gallery shows by him and you really start to understand his language. Could have been the weed or a true aesthetic experience. I’m going with the latter. I really love his work.
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Isis and Wepwawet, ca. 1279–1213 B.C.
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Two Women at a Window by Murillo
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Young Boys Playing Dice - Murillo
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Flora by Paris Bordon
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I like Tissot
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I really like George Hitchcock, too
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Henry Scott Tuke - gay and with an eye for the twinks
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Thank you, r48 and r49!
Just how helpless ARE you, OP?!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||15 hours ago|
Sascha Schneider, gay himself, created some of my favorite paintings.
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[quote]Also, any decent sized American city will have a museum with a good collection as will many colleges and universities. You cant be all that far from one.
What if OP lives in a remote part of Alaska?
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John Singer Sargent did some hot paintings of naked guys
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What about decorative arts?
Sardonyx cup or bowl with dragon handle by Pierre Delabarre. Louvre
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