I'm a gay man who hates penis

Um, are you sure you're gay?

Sounds like you're non-binary, OP.

I totally know how you feel, OP.

And yet somehow those pesky penises always find a way into my mouth.

I do declare!

I blame your mother...

What exactly do you hate about it?

I agree completely, OP.

Just the uncut ones

I'll bet a hundred dollars that OP is not a gay man.

I'm bi, but I have no interest in penis. I only like buff pecs, biceps, quads, and most of all, ass on a dude. Thankfully a lot of hot bros are cool with this and willing only to be submissive with me! I don't touch penises

It's ok OP, DLers are going to drag you, but I literally never met a straight woman who thought penises were attractive, but they still spend their lives dating and fucking men. You'll be fine.

OP and R9: I thought I was the only gay guy who felt that way. Penises (penii?) do absolutely nothing for me sexually. I don't dislike them, I just don't think they're at all attractive, in the same order as an elbow or a toe aren't. I don't mind playing with them, but actively don't like putting them in my mouth. What I REALLY dislike are uncut penii. Circumcised they're tolerable, but uncut dicks totally creep me out. I'm also probably the only guy on the planet who doesn't like getting BJs. I'll put up with them, because most guys like doing it to me, but I'm not "into" them. I like using my dick, but I don't think dicks are attractive.

I love butt-fuckery and giving and getting handjobs, but no dick worshiping. If I really like a guy I might go down on him, but my heart isn't in it.

See if you can muster the strength to become a top?

[quote] Penises (penii?) do absolutely nothing for me sexually. I don't dislike them, I just don't think they're at all attractive, in the same order as an elbow or a toe aren't.

I R11 ann OP. I don't find the penis attractive. If it weren't the sex organ on a male, I wouldn't concern myself with it at all. They look like worms. I thoroughly love asses but not holes. Holes: disgusting creatures. I wish men were essentially Ken dolls.

[quote] Penises (penii?) do absolutely nothing for me sexually. I don't dislike them, I just don't think they're at all attractive, in the same order as an elbow or a toe aren't.

I agree with [R11] and OP. I don't find the penis attractive. If it weren't the sex organ on a male, I wouldn't concern myself with it at all. They look like worms. I thoroughly love asses but not holes. Holes: disgusting creatures. I wish men were essentially Ken dolls.

R7 there's the pedophile circumsexual.

It's balls that are really funny looking.

Have someone a cock up your ass. I think your opinion will change.

Sad, sad thread.

Interestingly most straight guys, in their own way, LOVE cocks--n' nutsacks and the whole package deal. They constantly joke about it, and talk about it, and compare and admire, and straight porn often lovingly features 'em-with a hot girl, but still.

Sexual psychology and orientation, and what that encompasses, and how it manifests is more complicated than many will admit.

OP, do you have an AOL account?

Put 100 cocks in your bare ass on the weekend and do it for free for Treasure Island like I did.

R3, Miss Lindsey, I have seen the men you hang with. That's enough to make one go straight.

OP: R11 here. I also agree with you about liking asses but not holes. I like sticking things (including my penis) INTO holes, I just don't like looking at them. That said, I love asses and am thoroughly enjoying the current Men Presenting Amazing Asses thread.

OP, you are trans

Go and cut off some healthy body parts

Then you're not a gay man, OP. Your card is hereby revoked. Go to the ass room.

I'm a straight man who hates pussy

I'm an asian man who hates sushi

I'm an Italian man who hates pasta

I'm a fucking fag who hates ALL OF YOU!!!

Another pussy-hound "gay" man.

I'm a DL'er who hates replying.

1/10

Thanks for playing OP.

Fucking troll. If it's not the SJW homophobes, the gay-hating "I am the only black man here and you should die" cretin, the trans haters, the liars, the shit-stirrers, the anti-Semites, the too-stupid-to-get-camp idiots, or the fraus, it's this.

Eat.

Shit.

"Well, point it the other way, Wink. You know how I feel about that ... thing. That THING hanging there like an obscene pickle. Spare me your anatomy."

Better than the rest of us fags, huh, OP? You could always fuck yourself.

You are not alone, OP. I am gay but couldn't give a shit for dicks. I love asses and legs and feet, but a dick is a dick is a whatever. I guess what makes me gay is that I am turned on by masculinity and men in general. Nothing feminine or female turns me on.

[quote] I love asses and legs and feet, but a dick is a dick is a whatever. I guess what makes me gay is that I am turned on by masculinity and men in general. Nothing feminine or female turns me on.

I love asses and legs but not feet. I also like femininity in men, but I'm not into females.

Which is why it's ignorant to define gayness as automatically "liking Dick." Well, some gay men don't like penis. Sure, they are attracted to men, who have penises, but it doesn't mean they are attracted or interested in penises.

[quote] Sure, they are attracted to men, who have penises, but it doesn't mean they are attracted or interested in penises.

Precisely.

Homosexuality is a very complex condition. "Gay=sucking cock" just doesn't hold up anymore.

It never did r40. It's something simpletons and ignoramuses think

Yep!

The penis and any other body part for that matter is attractive based on the person it's attached to.

Seriously.

Which is why the Lord made biscuits, R3.

I'm John Travolta and I hate massages

You think you have it bad, OP? Try being a he-man who doesn't like pussy.

It seems the majority of posters on this thread would have people believe that the penis is of little or no interest to gay men. Is this where the Trans are hanging out today?

I like hairy pussies.

They remind me of the 70s when I was a boy and would go to straight porn to see the men.

Full overgrown untrimmed pubes on men and women are the hottest thing ever.

Trimmed or shaved pubes are as appealing as uncooked chicken.

2/10.

Was going to be a 1, but your trolling is off to a moderately promising start, with nearly 50 responses, and most of them thinking you are serious.

I explained this at a party recently. They went around answering the question what part of a man turns them on. Some of the gay men said penises. I said that if I had a choice, men would not have penises. I am somewhat repulsed by penises, certainly not Phallocentric. I said I go crazy over men with developed muscles and asses. That's the reason I like dudes at all.

Penises are so uncouth. My gentleman callers may not fully expose themselves within the boudoir.

I'm a face man.

You could have the body of Apollo but if I don't like your face nothing will do it for me.

Oh don't bother me. What a ridiculous notion.

Really. I don't care what anyone else says, you are ridiculous.

have you had the bottom surgery yet?

He could always pursue FTMs.

The only explanation would be that you've only had uncut dick. Find a thick, veiny, non-cheesy, circumcised dick with a nice mushroom head and you'll change your tune.

Op, is a FTM who wants you to "prefer" xis "front hole" to the icky, TRIGGERING, male penis.

Do you hate your own, op? I think this is deep seated. Look to the mother...

I remember when I thought the phrase "male penis" was amusingly redundant. As opposed to a female penis? But then came the trannies...

Clearly a hot button issue. But why do you really care if somebody is not that into dick? My most recent boyfriend isn't, but he is fixated on ass, which I am happy to provide. He's gay, but he's just not that wild about dick. He will jerk me off if I need it, but otherwise it's all about the butt. Different strokes.

shut up r58

Put me down for cock

Circumcised dick with chocolate sauce and whip cream is the only way to go!

Of the six hundred forty seven I've had, I cannot say there's been one tallywaker I have not enjoyed immensely. But peepe on peepee, Lady no! That's theDevil's doings.

There're billions of pussies out there for OP.

[quote] The penis and any other body part for that matter is attractive based on the person it's attached to.

Absolutely. I haven't liked most of the cocks I've had. They were unappealing or ugly. I wasn't exactly repulsed, I just wasn't too wild about them. Or actually in some cases I was mildly repulsed. I'm not the biggest slut out there (mostly because I've noticed I enjoy sex only with people I feel close to which means no strangers) so I've seen way more cocks in porn or online than in real life, and I can tell that I certainly do love cocks, just not all of them. I've probably had a bit of bad luck with the guys I've been with since there's been only a couple whose cocks I've truly found hot.

However I've always loved my cock, and I'm not alone. It's beautiful and always gets comments from other guys. I feel like an idiot thinking some other cocks are ugly when compared to mine but I can't help it. The hottest cock I've had belonged to a man I was hugely in love with. It wasn't too big, about 4.5", but it was practically a smaller version of mine. I couldn't keep my hands off it. Too bad he was straight which meant I only met his cock a few times.

So yes, for some of us it's totally all about the guy the dick is attached to.

R66 Do you have a huge penis?

R67, no, it's 7 inches.

If he was straight how did you manage to meet his cock even as many as a few times?

I had a masseur who once told me he hated my penis.

I still have no idea if he was gay or straight.

[quote] I said that if I had a choice, men would not have penises. I am somewhat repulsed by penises

Totally agree. I wrote above that I wish men were like Ken dolls.

R69, some people refuse to face the shades of gray even if their body and heart say otherwise. He was probably Kinsey 1 or 2 but didn't want it. I was the first guy who had ever fancied him and it made him all confused. He lived as a straight man, kept banging girls all the time but we sometimes slept or actually spooned together. Sex didn't come until later and it also ruined our friendship which was a shame since we were great together.

Oh, dear.

To my dearest OP: You're a lez in a gay man's body. It's the ultimate body dysmorphia. You can get help but there is no known cure.

That is if you're NOT bullshitting. If you are, l predict a violent death will be in order. DANGER will be the LAST thing u need to worry about gurl.

So if gay men like penises so much, then does that mean transgenders are attractive to all gay men?

I love watching those gang bang videos where one guy (or even a woman) is on his knees surrounded by a dozen hard and fat / swinging dicks...all, at one point which will pound him in the mouth. Yum. I love penis. OP should date a MTF.

Penis is disgusting.

I think they are utterly fascinating.

I'm a carnivore who hates hamburgers. Aesthetically, the hamburger is just so unappealing. I hate putting it in my mouth. Any advice to remedy this? Anyone else feel the same way?

Frau here . Dicks don't have much flavor so I like to use honey, strawberry jam, chocolate, etc to make it more tasty. Then I can gobble it up.

I hate the misshapen ones that look weird. But a curve up is wonderful.

Ok.....I'll concede.......a penis attached to a tranny is revolting.

Trannies are revolting. If one were on the other side of a glory hole and I didn't know it was a tranny, and he stuck his penis through and it was huge, I'd suck it. But that's the ONLY way I'd suck a tranny—by accident.

You would smell the cheap perfume, hear the click of the heels and you might catch a glimpse of the lace panties..........hopefully!

I like a nice big fat cock more than most guys faces / personalities / bodies.... so I guess the opposite can be true.

I am with you, op, i am an ass man and i can take ir leave The dick. But man's asses are a thing of beauty.

The whole point of a glory hole is that only the dick coming at your face through it matters, not who it's attached to. I rarely looked to see who was on the other side during my sexpig days

So, you see a dick and lose the use of all your other senses....ok.

Yes, sad but true. Miss those days of yore....

That makes you a Dominant. Just be with a submissive.

R79=Aaron Schock. That is all.

Gay men who are Phallocentric tend to be very open and flamboyant about their desires, whereas non-penile bi and gay men tend to be shy and discreet about their desires.

A lot of total bottoms are turned on by total tops who assert they don't touch penises of other dudes

Who's fucking care about biscums, r91?

[quote] But man's asses are a thing of beauty.

True.

Vagina glory hole

[quote]Who's fucking care about biscums, [R91]?

What makes you think all men posting here are 100% gay? We have loads of bi men posting here. I'm Kinsey 5 myself and hearing a cunt like you call me scum just makes me feel so... special. And btw if you haven't noticed yet not all openly gay men you meet in real life are 100% gay either. The world is full of shades of gray.

Geez, people hate bisexuals now too? Is that really necessary or just bitterness that they've left you for women?

I love bi men.

After you cum it's easy to get rid of them.

First the T. Then they'll go after the B.

The G are relentless fierce queens. Nothing will hold these raptors back until they have your junk all to themselves. That's what this is all about.

The Gs have turned on themselves plenty too.

Please, bitch! Talking like you've got a fucking clue!

The Ts would be fine if they weren't actually delusional female impersonators.

[R54] "bottom surgery"???? What is this?

I take it.....from your indignation and utter confusion at the term"bottom surgery"????.....that your trolling on this site is in it's infancy.

I only date bi dudes

bottom surgery means making your penis into a vagina. "top surgery" is getting boobs.

it does not mean making you into a bottom or tightening your hole.

eat some pussy

Pussy makes me burp... burppp .... burrrrp

If you don't like dick, you're not gay period.

@109: That's simply not true. I'm not at all crazy over dick, but I'm very into asses, getting' down and dirty with a guy, and myriad other gay carnal pleasures. Just please don't ask me to suck a dick though, okay? I mean, yeah, I'll DO it if its owner is hot enough, but it's not my idea of a good time.

You aren't gay, R110. At least, not gay enough. Dicksucking is the essence of male homosexuality.

My friends have called me a "closet heterosexual" because I'm not into dick, love asses and only like pretty, feminine guys. They tell me I may as well want a woman, but I don't. I'm only into men.

Biscum called themself "gay" all of time. Nothing new.

R111 -- R110 here. Maybe to you, dicksucking is the essence of male homosexuality, but to me and apparently a lot of my contemporaries, our idea of being gay consists of other things. By your thinking, I and my other non-cocksuckers are straight. Let me assure you, we're not. I like doing the same sexual things with another guy that you do--with one exception. I suppose it could also be argued that if a guy doesn't like butt-fuckery, he's also straight.

To put this another way, I like women very much--but not in any sexual capacity whatsoever. I truly love being nekkid with other dudes. I'm just not crazy over their penii. Of course, I'd not like it if they didn't have a PENIS, but I don't necessarily want to be on first-name terms with it.

Some gays don't like beards, some don't like fat people, some don't like excessive body hair. I don't like dicks. Doesn't make me any less gay, though.

You will never be gay enough to have sex with me, R114.

You are not gay. You are an oxymoron. Not that there's anything wring with it.

Why would it bother R114 if his partner didn't have a cock if he wants nothing to do with said cock?

"I'm a gay man who hates penis"

That sucks!

Interesting investigative thread. You must be the new Dick Tracy.

R48 - You're old, and unfuckable, who cares that you don't like shaved pubes? Or the other emancipated old queens on here, that are only attracted to mutilated cocks, no 'natural' guy is going to care about the opinions of the unfuckables. Just keep it to yourself, and choose whatever porn you desire, as that's the extent of your sex life.

[quote]You will never be gay enough to have sex with me, [R114].

I doubt anyone here is rushing to have sex with you, R115.

For whatever reason some people are very strict about rules. I used to briefly date a guy who kept bitching about every little thing I did wrong. I heard more than once that "gays don't do that", or something along those lines. Needless to say it was annoying as fuck. Some people just think they know how things are really supposed to go. My buddy seemed to play a role of a proper gay man and got all worked up when others didn't play by his rules. It was so silly.

Emancipated?

Might I suggest a little Grey Poupon?

It isn't a "rule," R121, you psychotic ninny. It isn't sex without cocksucking.

R111/109, you are ignorant. Shut up and learn something dude

R124, so you're saying you have rules for what is considered to be real gay sex.

R124 doesn't seem to bright.

I'm a gay man trapped in the body of a big fat woman!

Doesn't seem to bright what, R127?

It is a *definition* of sex between men. You can fuck me all you want, but not if you didn't suck my dick first. It's integral.

[quote] Doesn't seem to bright what, [R127]?

I'm "oh dearing" myself. I don't appear "too" bright either.

R130 has never been fucked by a guy who claims to be straight. Probably a woman who watches gay porn and thinks the fucking has to start after ten minutes.

Hi, tranny r132.

Hi fat virginal straight chick with rape fantasies and big huge pimples all over her bum, r133!

Oh yeah, OP, well too fucking bad. 99.9% of all gay men love dick. The other 0.00001% are trolling or mentally ill.

Here's to you, OP! Go bang a pussy instead (now that is truly gross)

OP is a jealous FTM

For those who reduce 'being gay' to sex acts--this provokes an interesting question: If you were neutered or castrated would you still 'be gay'?

There's one school of thought that would answer no, because you can't do sex acts, or maybe even experience sexual feelings in the same kind of way.

There's also a school of thought that would answer yes, because they see 'gay', or 'straight' or anything else as reflecting a psychosexuality that is going on in your head regardless of what actions you do, or even whether you can sexually function anymore, etc.

I also think gay is about the psychological and affectional orientation. Not sexual. Otherwise vag feels better than asshole any day.

Not to mention all the bacteria that hang around the annus

No wonder active gays are a veritable petri dish of desease

R82, there's this straight Iranian at work who confessed that he went to a specific glory hole place to have only trannies suck his big dripping brown cock.

LOL there are many biscums in this thread.

R137:

I think it's more about the sexual acts one desires to do than actual participation.

You brought up castration, but it goes well beyond that:

Wha about the gay virgin or the elder gay with ED or the poor/ugly gay who can't afford a rental?

If the fantasize about the acts mentioned above (by either side) are they still gay?

Dicks are not very attractive when limp.

I love limp dicks growing in my mouth

The trolls that say they are Gay and don't like cock are, at best, the type of selfish, inconsiderate ego driven Mary's who care nothing for the experience of their sexual partner....and either lie there and expect the other to do ALL the work.....or they bang for 3 minutes....and fall asleep.

*say they are Gay men and don't like...

Some prefer the butt r145

Some total tops just ignore their bottoms' dicks totally. Most bottoms have ugly limp micropenis anyway.

R147 You *may* prefer "butts" ,but, a prostate *rarely* makes a man cum. For YOU to ignore your partner's sexual organ.....the organ that achieves climax......and ,ultimately, serve yourself.......well, my dear, that makes you a cunt!

If it is loved, why do we still call someone a dick head ?

R149 It's the butthole that makes the top cum, are you stupid ?

R148 Oh look.......it's a sissy!

Get over it r149. You can't control it

These "anti-dick gay men" are trolls and not gay men, you all realize?

Most likely trans, feminists or genderqueer SJWs trying to push some new, totally fake agenda that will never catch on with gay men.

Oh look, I'm a straight man and I hate boobies and pussy!

Men are visual creatures, and you can always sniff out a woman posing as a gay man, when they start rambling about these convoluted "emotional attachment," (I love the person, not the body parts) mumbo-jumbo.

R154 That is CLEAR! But, they're SO thick they think they're stealth.......when they're SCREAMING their agenda.

I bet OP is a man-hating lesbian or a frigid frau.

Jesus you trans haters are one weird bunch. You think practically everything you don't consider to be properly gay in your sad little minds must be a trans conspiracy. Guess what, people are different, gay men are not all the same. Instead of trying to have a conversation you start screaming bloody murder. Jesus fucking Christ.

I've noticed many trans haters at DL are in fact women. Makes you wonder how many of you bitching about trans in this thread are in fact women.

Oh look, it's the "all men are bi" troll pushing her "most men are not totally gay" agenda. Hi "sexual-fluidity" troll, R159! Sorry to inform you that most gay men are, in fact, just gay and only attracted to men. I know this must upset you and your agenda, but unfortunately for you, that's reality!

R160, wow, you run out of your meds, Miss Crazy?

R161 is a British chick who thinks she is fooling anyone into thinking that she is actually a gay man. Nice try, love.

Call me, OP!

R162, nope, like I've said I'm a Kinsey 5 male.

R160/R162, since you brought up the sexual fluidity I should point out that I totally think some men are 100% gay. That doesn't mean there aren't more bi people than gay, though. This British study from last year is a step into right direction. In a more gay friendly society, where kids are brought up thinking being gay or bi is just as normal as being straight, we'd probably get much more bi or gay men in these kinds of studies.

And yes, even the 100% gay men can dislike cock. Like I wrote in R66 I'm Kinsey 5 but I only really like cocks from guys I'm close with. When I say Kinsey 5 I mean that I used to have some sex with girls when I was in my teens but that was over 20 years ago. I've been strictly dickly ever since. (I still do like straight porn, though, partly because I like straight guys.) The only time that I really thought about trying a girl once again was when I broke up with the love of my life and I just couldn't even think of being with another man because I only wanted him. Not sure I could've even gotten it hard for women anymore.

Life is not black and white. It's easy to scream anonymously on the web but that doesn't mean there really aren't real people sharing their life experiences. Obviously we do get many people with an agenda posting here, and the anti-trans people certainly are well represented. It's a bit sad since I'm fairly certain most trans people have not had an easy life. I tend to be empathetic towards them and seeing all the hate coming presumably from gay people just feels wrong. Like I wrote earlier it seems many of the anti-trans posts really are coming from women. I sort of understand it but at the same time it seems so silly because we all know how very few trans people there really are around.

A dick has to be pretty for me to suck it. Also I only rim pretty asses.

Witch is pretier r166 rosebud or coinslot?

"Some men are only 100% gay."

In all of my years, and all of the gay men I've met, I've never known these "majority" of gay men who like vagina equally as much as dick.

Definitely coinslot R167!

R122 - I meant 'emasculated' at R120.

You can call yourself a Kinsey 4.7815 for all I care, all of you "I'm a gay guy and I don't like penises" are still homophobic bisexuals.

Go back to your wives and stop going around spreading lies about how gay men don't have to be attracted to male anatomy. There was someone in another thread talking about an "alliance" between LGB against the trans and queer insanity, but it is patently clear that EVERYONE ELSE is obsessed with obfuscating and completely destroying the concept of homosexuality as an innate and immutable sexual orientation: for the T/genderqueers/nonbinaries, it allows them to guilt-trip us into sex and relationships with members of the opposite sex, while the bisexuals (including the ones who call themselves gay per this thread)/pansexuals get to enforce their fluid/everyone's a bit bi narrative.

Stop calling yourself gay. You are not.

Chill r171.

Here you go OP

BLEURGH! *wipes mouth*

I'm a 400 pound fat slob who doesn't like donuts.

If you are gay and have a shred of self-respect, you wouldn't be telling me to "chill" while people go around trying to redefine your sexual orientation.

[quote]You can call yourself a Kinsey 4.7815 for all I care, all of you "I'm a gay guy and I don't like penises" are still homophobic bisexuals.

If that is your world view all I can say I feel sorry for you. If you haven't noticed not all people in this thread who aren't totally into dick are saying they're bi. I'm not reading all the posts again but was there any other than me who said they're not 100% gay? And dude, when you start laying down the rules of being a proper 100% homosexual you better be one yourself. You can bet that there are other 100% gays who might find you too femme or too whatever or not enough of something to be really gay. So quit trying to act like a god who has the right to determine who is truly a proper gay man.

And homophobic bisexuals, oh jesus, the most homophobic person in this thread is probably you since you refuse to let others be what they are. You only accept gay men who are just like you, that is if you even are a gay man, this place is full of trolls. Guess what, the world doesn't revolve around you.

And this one:

[quote]If you are gay and have a shred of self-respect, you wouldn't be telling me to "chill" while people go around trying to redefine your sexual orientation.

It's YOU who's trying to define what others are.

Suck my dick, R177.

R178, you're sure you have one?

All I can add is that a gay man who hates dick must be an excruciatingly dull lay. I'm just glad I've not had the misfortune of attempting to have sex with one.

An intact penis is a beautiful thing.

R177 Fuck off already. You are not a gay man, "Kinsey 5", so you can drop the whole "I'm a gay guy who is not really into dick" charade. Bisexual men are leeches and I have already provided concise scientific evidence. They are more conservative, more religious, do not care about gay rights, unlikely to be out to family, partner with the opposite sex at ridiculous rates, etc. Calling yourselves "gay" is a typical thing you do so you don't have to own up to who you really are. You calling yourself gay while being attracted to women means you do not consider gay a legitimate and defined sexuality, AKA homophobia.

That some people ITT call themselves gay while proclaiming they are not attracted to dick is irrelevant. This is what you don't understand: self-identification is meaningless. Queertards on twitter call themselves "gay af" while being typical heteros, all because it's "cool" or "quirky". That you honestly believe half of all UK youth are not heterosexual is hilarious. Go back 40 years and ask a British classroom if they consider themselves punk and you will a see substantial chunk saying yes.

And no, I am not "100 gay". I am gay, meaning I am exclusively attracted to males; the "100%" is redundant. You, however, are not gay given that you are attracted to women.

R182, how old are you? 17?

R183 God no and I am thankful. I would probably be on tumblr being brainwashed.

So I guess saying "gay men by definition are attracted to penises" and "you are not gay if you attracted to women" is now controversial? I see.

R184, I've been open about myself being Kinsey 5. Do I consider myself to be bi? Well, I don't really feel lust strong enough for women for that. I've many times used a term a slightly bi gay man because that really is the case. I seriously don't know if I'd be able to even get it up for women anymore. Practically I am a gay man since for over 20 years I've been solely with men.

And really, most of the guys in this thread who are not that into dick seem to be 'exclusively attracted to males'. So don't try to turn this into a thing where bi men are trying to destroy the definition of homosexuality. If you're an adult you know very well that not gay men are alike, and I can guarantee many of the guys who you think are 'exlusively attracted to males' might have feelings for women as well.

You seem to think homosexuality is under attack by the trans folks and the bisexuals. It's certainly not the first time I've seen bi men being vilified by the 'proper' gay men but just remember that acting like a bully who's guarding the entrance to the Men Who Are Exclusively Attracted To Males club you're really not being any different from the gaybashing bullies.

The real question is: Why are you attacking bi men and apparently trans people as well when the real enemies still are the fundie right wingers and homophobes? Do you spend this much energy attacking the Ted Cruzes of the world or do you reserve your hatred for the people who are not gay enough for you, i.e. who are different from you?

R185 Being a Kinsey 5 by definition makes you bisexual. Bisexuals have said for years that it doesn't matter just how small their attraction to one sex is. No gay man is attracted to women and this is honestly not a difficult concept to grasp.

You can take the trans questions to any of the trans threads. Know this: Trump and Pat Robertson support the T, so the Ted Cruz diatribe is laughable.

I am not attacking people who are not "gay enough". I am saying: if you are not gay, how about you stop calling yourself gay. That you are paranoid enough to consider this to be some kind of personal attack is your own issue entirely. Bis always call gay people who stand their ground when their sexuality is being modified ("some gay guys are just not attracted to penises"/"you have to be attracted to transmen or else you're a transphobe") to be gatekeepers/exclusionary, but those are just tactics used to switch things around and portray us as evil or cruel. You calling yourself gay while being attracted to women is one of the most basic forms of homophobia that exist out there: it is the complete rejection of gay as a legitimate orientation that solely includes members of the same sex.

But yeah, you can keep painting bisexuals as victims of us mean gays, all because we notice and point out their homophobic behavior.

R186, have I claimed to be gay in this thread? In my posts I was talking about me and said I'm Kinsey 5. You're just using your irrational hatred towards bi men (not sure if the anti-trans posts in this thread are from you but I wouldn't be surprised) to silence the gay guys who've wrote in this thread that they're e.g. more into ass than into dick. You're trying to dictate how gay people should feel and behave because you can't seem to understand that not all gay people feel exactly like you sexually or emotionally. If they fail to reach the standards you've created (i.e. all gay men must enjoy every single dick they see) you immediately disqualify them from being proper gay men.

Enjoy living in a ghetto you've created yourself. Discussion with you is pretty much pointless since all you do is hate.

"If they fail to reach the standards you've created (i.e. all gay men must enjoy every single dick they see) you immediately disqualify them from being proper gay men."

Why do you fucking care, cunt?

R176, you are unhinged bro

I don't get why this thread annoys people. If you are sexually attracted to men, you are gay. Regardless of what you like to do in bed.

Why do so many of these types go out of their way to use the term bro?

Well, if it's any consolation to you guys most lesbians dislike vaginas--I'm not kidding. Most, and I mean MOST, do not 'go down' on other women, ever. That's a big fallacy in the media and in porn.

Most lesbians are TOTAL bottoms. That's why there is so much unhappiness amongst lesbians, and why so many underhandedly sleep with men without telling their girlfriends.

So why do they bother with each other?

The turn on is in meeting, the build-up, and then the first or second nights together. It's a game to see which one will end up dominating the other sexually. Mostly though, they are both pillow queens and will stay in the relationship because they enjoy the status of being 'girlfriends,' sexless as they are.

as a straight woman I can tell you that a lot of apparently straight guys don't like going down on women any more than OP likes giving blow jobs, so I assume it's possible

I wish I had a nickle for every 'lesbian' friend I knew that slept with men on occasion, including GAY men. The ones who slept with promiscious gay men I wrote off as idiots, because possibly exposing yourself to HIV as a lesbian and then passing it on to other women is despicable. But they've done it, mostly to fit in I guess, or to feel attractive.

I think the gay 'community' is actually not gay at all, but a mixture of very confused hets and bisexuals who intentionally or not, work to destroy other gay lives. Very few people are really and truly GAY, and no one is more miserable than a straight woman who pretends to be gay because she can't get guys. Those broads are the problem in the lesbian community, and the nutty, abusive bi men are the source of concern in the gay men's 'community.'

But, to be fair, labeling people as gay or straight isn't working anymore. People cannot force themselves into those roles. Maybe being 'gay' is real for 99% of the world. Maybe very few feel satisfied with that behavior.

I don't know, all I know is that almost everyone is a bottom, male or female, gay or lesbian.

No one said anything about "every single dick," just the dicks of guys you're attracted to.

R187 So if someone comes up and asks you for your orientation, you will say "I'm a Kinsey 5"? Fantastic then. In that case, you had no place in this thread though, if you even cared to read the title. Keep playing the bi victim, though. Us evil gay monosexuals are just too evil and here's photographic proof of our oppressive tendencies.

R189 I'm not unhinged, bro, just tired of this.

R190 The problem is not what you do in bed, but rather making statements like "I'm gay and I hate penis" or "I'm gay and I'm not attracted to penis". Gay is the exclusive attraction to the same sex, and for men this includes the entirety of the male-specific anatomy. People who say that are not actually gay or have some internal struggle going on.

R192 Seek help.

R193 Hetero men call pussy nasty because society calls pussy nasty. If a hetero man said he found women's breasts unappealing, he would logically be ridiculed by his friends.

Watch out, the gay society thought police at R196 has stated her boundaries.

I'm 100% gay because I choose to be.

I don't believe you "gay men who are disgusted by dick." I believe you're fraus or pansexual Tumblr fangirls trying to get attention. Even your long-essay writing style is clearly that of a woman pretending to write like a gay man.

If you actually exist, I've never met anything like you before and you're 0.00000000000001% of the gay male population, and you have issues.

R197 Thought police = a gay man saying gay men are exclusively attracted to males and the anatomy that this encompasses.

Right.

R200, you should get out more.

What's next??

Italians who don't care for garlic & olive oil

Fraus who turn their noses up at a box of chocolate

Muslims who think beards are an abomination

Since there are and have always been men who have sex with men who are total 100 percent forever Alpha tops (and many willing total bottoms who love them), why is this such a shocking and comtroversial revelation to people here?

The very notion that exclusive tops are 'alpha' isn't shocking or controversial, r203, but it is tired and uninteresting. Does that mean all bottoms are beta guys?

OP...you'll come around.

R204, the thing is not everyone in some group are alike. Saying all bottoms are beta is as silly as saying all gay men love to suck cock. We are all individuals but some people refuse to understand that.

And I should point out that if I say that not every gay man loves to suck cock doesn't mean that most gay guys don't want to suck cock. I'm fairly certain most gay or bi men love cock in their own ways, and most gay men probably love sucking cock. At least all that I've had sex with.

"Most" is not " all," and in this cAse, is a significant minority

I'm not into anything that involves bodily fluids. I especially hate kissing if there's tongue involved.

And I live in a country where circumcision went out of fashion decades ago, so most guys are uncut. Gross.

I don't know what the dynamic is between total exclusive top and total bottoms in ongoing significant relationships, but in online profiles and ads, total bottoms tend to be seeking fantasy total tops that are hypermasculine dominant Alpha males. Likewise, total tops online and on social media tend to seek submissive or passive dudes. This Alpha seeking Beta dynamic seems to be especially popular among non-white men, or white men seeking ethnic minoroties.

Penis is disgusting.

Is this propaganda by the T?

I don't know, I'm asking?

Wouldn't it be "omega," not "beta," R20?

Just another sad attempt by the heterosexual machine to get us into fish. GOOD LUCK!!!

There is a difference, R212.

Ignorant people cling to broad stereotypes and their own personal preferences as indicative of what everyone in a group likes.

[quote]Since there are and have always been men who have sex with men who are total 100 percent forever Alpha tops (and many willing total bottoms who love them), why is this such a shocking and comtroversial revelation to people here?

Seriously. There are some total bottoms who love guys who only care about their ass, and they prefer their tops ignore they even have a penis.

I find it weird, but it isn't that rare of a dyamic. I can't imagine why anyone is surprised.

[quote]as a straight woman I can tell you that a lot of apparently straight guys don't like going down on women any more than OP likes giving blow jobs, so I assume it's possible

Any man who chows down on a clit is basically sucking a dick.

I totally get what you are saying R216. I've known some of those guys and have truly enjoyed being fucked by them. They can be a blast. Once or twice. After that they start to seem like more work than they are worth. I mean, at least pay SOME attention to my dick.

But gay men who think dicks are ugly? That is patently absurd and they should seriously consider fucking themselves.

In fact, they should only fuck themselves. At all times.

Interesting thread.

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Stop thinking you're gay. Or, as was suggested more than once, fuck yourself, OP.

The male appendages look absurd all floppy and dangly. The cut ones are especially unnatural looking, vulgar and obvious, all exposed and tough as leather. Uncut cocks are as attractive as male genitalia get.

Ewww, no they don't. Uncut peen is disgusting.

You are not gay if you don't like all the male sex organs in all their natural glory.

Begone, BTQ++ homophobes.

R223. The dear lord have it to us for a reason. And it's beautiful like all his creations. You heathen.

Very strange indeed, but I suppose more common than I would have thought. I love dicks - that's my area of focus. But, I used to hook up with this super fucking hot man who really only wanted to eat my ass. Now don't get me wrong, I like a nice tongue bath - but dude, suck that dick while you're down there too please! He WOULD do that (if I kept putting my erection in his face), but it wasn't something that he seemed particularly into. I, on the other hand, can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. I love cocks and balls in my mouth, and I'm not very into ass rimming at all. Pretty much ended up 69ing every time, me with his cock in my mouth, him with my ass in his. Not complaining.

Liking dick is part of being gay. If you're not into dick and think you're gay, you're mistaken. Perhaps you're just asexual, especially if you don't like twat either.

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I don't hate penis, but I am indifferent or not at all attracted to it. I am bi, and with dudes I am always and forever in the active, nonpenetrating role. I eat ass.

I hate it when gay guy says someone likes dick just because they are gay or bi. You don't know that because some dudes are total tops who don't even touch penis.

I'd never get a boner by looking at someone's dick.

I am all about physique and ass. Meh to dick

Wow! Smell you, r231.

[quote]I am always and forever in the active, nonpenetrating role

Pick one.

You so-called "gays," "homos," "bis," "bros," "queers"—whatever the fuck you're calling yourselves today—should have your foreheads branded "No D."

I'm especially disappointed to see that a penis has been mutilated. An all-natural intact penis is a huge turn-on. I could play with and suck on foreskin all day and night.

Ummmmmm

Gays that don't like dick; lesbians that don't like pussy.

Non-D m4m dudes are popular on dating apps because bottoms perceive them to be Alpha males

Hmmmm

Fascinating

It's not rare

This should be tattooed on their face.

I like butt. Not penis

We've had this discussion so many times on here. But it's worth saying again: if you don't like dick, go fuck a chick.

You're not gay, and you're not worth wasting any time on.

I don't hate penis (it's a requirement that you have one if we are going to have sex) but I'm definitely more of an ass man.

You're not gay if you don't love dick. End of.

I hate overgeneralizations about any group of people. Obviously, some bisexual and gay men do not like or interact with other men's penis, whether they are strict tops or just attracted to masculinity without the penis part. As such, it's ignorant to broadly assert that gay equals liking penis.

Please die before you wake, R248.

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A lot of straight women are not into dicks and only suck them because that is what the guys want. Fucking is one thing but sucking is no fun.

R251 Sure, but I guess but they like to get fucked with it? Some of us gay men don't want ANY business with others' dicks.

How can you have sex with no dicks? You are strickley a top? Never touch a Dick? Seems selfish.

[quote]Some of us gay men don't want ANY business with others' dicks.

And the rest of us gay men don't want ANY business with your dick. Promise.

[quote]How can you have sex with no dicks? You are strickley a top? Never touch a Dick? Seems selfish.

Are you a person of color, R253?

A lot of experimenting and macho bi guys won't touch dicks, and they have no problem finding gay men who drool over them

There is nothing sexier than two dicks getting to know each other, kissing, and rubbing together until they cum.

For you

I love penis... I'm surprised to hear there are gay men that don't. Shame 🔔.

R259, there is no shame in others having Different tastes and attractions than you

Yeah, that's true. I can respect it even if I don't understand it.

I'm a sperm whale and I hate water! What should I do??

Attraction to males is not attraction to penis. Some guys are attracted to muscular physiques, others to male faces, others to masculinity in general, others to male butts. Penises are not those things.

R263 THIS.

Hates penis? That's a bit strong. I guess I could understand saying something like, "I like other body parts better, or I like a man's face or body better." But penis seems to me to be central to being gay even if being gay is more of a psychological and emotional thing. Being gay is also a physical thing. Hating penis strikes me as a form of denial or still having one foot in the closet and not fully being out.

Having said that, I guess it takes all kinds. I'm just still trying to comprehend the notion of hating penis.

While I wouldn't waste an FF to let either R264 or R263 what a moron I think he is, I do think we could use a "Big Fat Stupidhead" button for this purpose.

Gay men seem to be the main one spreading the falls fallacy that being bi or gay equals liking penis. Straight men seem to Better understand it is false.

"Falls fallacy." You're as dumb as you are sexually undesirable, R267.

OP, you do use your own penis for sex, though, don't you? And you do realize that other men do, too? (It's where the cum comes out!)

Can't believe that so many people don't like dicks in their natural state... I.e... Not mutilated. Wtf? It's not natural for a dick to be cut!

Not what we're talking about here, R270. These idiots don't like dicks in any state.

If the no dicks dudes are so unpopular, why are the total bottoms drooling over them so?

How would I know, R272? I'm not a "total bottom." Nor do I know any. Thankfully, I've never had to encounter a "no dicks dude." Pathetic, you lot.

I don't get why DL gay men get so worked up about other guys' sexual preferences and identities. It's such an intolerant trait. People are different, and it's a great thing

Nothing is "great" about bedding a so-called gay man who won't suck my dick. Thankfully, it has only happened once.

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I’m bi. Never sucked dick, never will. Penis Ain’t my thing. I love being sucked though.

Sexual preferences are weird.Either figure out if you truly love men it don't fret about it. I personally love cock as does my partner, a bottom. But I have known gays who definitively prefer ass to organ. Also, to those of you who think all woman hate dick - we have a good friend, a straight woman, who absolutely worships penises. In fact, she loves to suck so much she actually comes doing it. She is allegedly repulsed by cunnilingus and won't allow it, but she loves anal. Her problem, other than being a real strange and admittedly rare chick, is that while she loves cocks she despises the straight men they are attached to. She is constantly borrowing our porn as she is also turned off by straight porn. She says there is no passion or realism in it. She is a hoot and we love to compare notes but we are so over telling her she is a gay man in a woman's body - so passe. What says you about our male appendage loving Frau?

PS. Her gaydar is sharper than ours.

Agree. OP is a frau or at the very least a fraud. What happened to the good old days?

ME too OP.

Did someone suggest that you poke your eyes out, OP? I don't have time to read this thread.

Hmmmm

Don't blame the OP, R281, blame the troll at R280 who keeps bumping ancient threads. Please start new threads, R280, instead of constantly dragging up these old ones.

OP, dear. You’re a latent lesbian.

OP, below is an Introduction to Lesbianism 101:

The Penis is a thing to be worshiped, and not just by gay men.

Touch it, you know you want to.

Thar she blows!

OP, Philly Top here. Please know I was just joking. Good luck to you.

I’m a bi top and even I recognize and partake in the beauty and suckability of the penis.

Ready, Aim Fire!!

I'm gayer than laughter, and have never been turned on AT ALL by dicks.

I mean, I like a nice one, but I don't really like doing anything with it.

You're missing half the fun

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The most well deserved F&F, grey cross-out of an OP ever! he deserves a redtag too

OP: I know a lesbian who hates oral sex with women. Totally grossed out by it no matter how clean the vajay is (and she don't want it done to her either). However, she is sexually attracted to women otherwise (and very single as a result lol).

It's not that rare. Some of you live in the bondage of old, stifling stereotypes.

Why not, r263?

Time to stop painting all gay men as the same.

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There are many others who are like you OP

Why would anyone bump this thread?

I don’t hate dick, but I’m not attracted or interested in it. I’m into make physiques, and ass. That’s why it works being a total exclusive top. Thankfully, a lot of guys are totally Passive.

I’m Bi and DONT like penis. I don’t hate it, but it doesn’t attract me. It’s not a point of interest or desire for me. I love a fit man’s biceps, glutes, abs, handsome face, but the penis is not something I desire or interact with. I’m strictly active or dominant, and it works for the guys I’ve messed with.

It’s not my thing either. I’m bi. I only like guys for nice bubble butts and nice ripped abs. A lot of Bi men of color are like me.

I don’t like penis either. Only ass and pecs

Gay and Bi men who hate dick and kissing have unresolved issues with their sexuality.

Not true

This is the historic thread on the topic

I do not want to know "gay" men who don't suck cock. Fortunately I have only met one. I threw him out.

I know multiple

I have no interest in penis, but I love abs, ass, arms, and pecs.

Maybe the people who say they hate cock here are actually women.

R312 : "I have no interest in food, but I love the plastic, paper, cardboard, and metal packaging associated with it."

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It’s not surprising or uncommon. Homosexuality has a long history of strict passive versus active roles. Only recently has versatility been a thing, a still only in developed nations and mostly Among white dudes.

Not sucking cock = gay mortal sin.

Not really r317

Then you are not a gay man, r318. At least, not a gay man who's worth anything to me.

R319, thankfully there are tons of guys seeking total strict top. And you’re not even my type

[quote]And you’re not even my type

You act as if I care.

You’re the one asserting your rejection of total Tops is some loss to us

Oh, go commit sexual abuse, r322. It's what makes you hard.

A REAL Alpha Top doesn’t suck dick, like dick, or even wants to see dick.

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Fascinating

OP, spend an hour with your tongue inside a vagina trying to stimulate a clitoris, then you'll come running back to dick.

I used to see a guy like that for about eight months.

It was some of the best sex I’ve ever had. He didn’t care for dick at all but he would put his mouth on every other part of my body.

He was a great kisser and he loved rimming me.

OP is like a straight guy who hates pussy.

Or a straight guy who thinks he's gay because he's been rejected by so many people he needs his "best friend" around him at all times or some other weird shit.

A dick is what makes men "men". If you aren't into dick, you aren't into human men. You're into mannequins or women or something.

.....

Go ahead. Hate this penis. I dare you.

Not a great dick, R332.

The pinnacle of penile perfection, r333.