Film characters who are implicitly gay

Dr. Pretorious in THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN.

ENTRE NOUS, the Diane Kurys film with Huppert and Miou Miou.

David Wayne as Kip Lurie in Adam's Rib.

Norman Bates in Psycho

[quote] fact is never explicitly stated, shown or even inferred

The audience would be the ones doing any inferring. The movie would have to *imply*.

Franklin Pangborn in any film in which he's ever appeared.

Stephen Boyd as Messala in Ben-Hur

Jake Gyllanhaal in Brokeback Mountain

Tony Randall in those Doris Day comedies of the late 50s

R3 Isn't Kip the piano player guy who is hitting on Katharine Hepburn's Amanda that makes Spencer Tracy jealous? Trying not to spoil the ending even if it's 75 years old.

My vote is for Oaken in Frozen.

R3, that would be *any* character David Wayne played.

The Cowardly Lion.

Bilbo Baggins, Merry & Peregrine, the LOTR movies.

The queeny English professor sidekick to Sean Connery in Raiders. Can't recall the characters nor actor's name, offhand

The bird-like secretary in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.

Every nun & priest in any movie ever made.

C3PO is a clearly fag

Mr. Orange and Mr. White in Reservoir Dogs.

The neighbor in "Night and the City." They try to make it seem like he has an interest in Gene Tierney but bitch, please.

Wasn't "Teas and Sympathy"'s main character supposed to be more gay -ish in the play or implied that he ended up gay? Sounds like a lousy story any way you slice it.

Mary Astor, Lizabeth Scott, John Hodiak and Wendell Corey in Desert Fury

Joel Cairo (played by Peter Lorre) in The Maltese Falcon.

Farley Granger and John Dall in Rope

Johnny, the air traffic controller in "Airplane!"

James Mason and Martin Landeau in North by Northwest

R13 absolutely agree with Mr White and Mr Orange, the plot doesn't really make sense if they're not romantically involved with each other ( I'd also add Mr Blonde and Eddie- that movie is so utterly gay I'm always gobsmacked how well they mis-sold it to the straight bro audience)

Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis in Trapeze

Frodo

Mercedes McCambridge in "Johnny Guitar"

Clifton Webb in every role.

It's hilarious isn't it r20? Let's not forget Mr. Pink! Lol I may as well have said 'the entire cast of characters'.

Clarice Starling.

Fanny's best friend Eddie in "Funny Girl"

Roddy McDowell as Christopher Plummer's assistant in "Inside Daisy Clover

and the two co-owners of this thread:

Bruno Anthony ("Strangers On A Train") and Addison Dewitt ("All About Eve")

R13--In the scene where Mr. White is combing Mr. Orange's hair, then whispers something in his ear to make him laugh--some speculate he offered to blow him.

Bruno was written as gay, as were the characters in Rope. The ONLY thing that made them seem "implicitly" so was the Production Code. Hitchcock flew a lot of stuff under the censor's noses, though. Anyone with a brain knows that Bruno was gay. Robert Walker was such a wonderful actor. Tragic that he died so young.

Eve Harrington & Addison DeWitt- "All About Eve" Debra Winger & Theresa Russell-"Black Widow"

Max, the Baroness' frenemy from The Sound of Music.

R11 the English actor you're looking for is the truly talented Denholm Elliott. Bisexual and died from HIV.

Peter Lorre as Joel Cairo in "The Maltese Falcon".

Norman Bates wan't gay. (people just think that because of Anthony Perkins.)

He was lusting after women and killing them. (if he were gay he wouldn't have stabbed Janet Leigh, he'd just have made fun of how big her hips were)

I don't think Clarice was written as gay either that was just the casting.

Willy Wonka

Dr. Phibes

Is that why you sucked as Clarice, Mrs. Moore?

Reservoir Dogs is one of my favorite movies. I've always considered it to be very gay, in a way---Mr. Orange and Mr. White, and then the fact that there are no women.

r36=lesbian

From two perennial DL faves:

Hutch in "Rosemary's Baby"

Paul Varjak in "Breakfast at Tiffany's"

Cecil Vyse in A Room with a View

Oh Lord, no one hasn't yet mentioned Mrs. Danvers from "Rebecca"? Look at 2:26 and 4:11 in this clip. How could anyone NOT notice the lesbian undertones taking place?

Was Grace Cardiff Hutch's hag then? I always thought they were fuckbuddies.

Clifton Webb in "Laura".

The mystery writer Isobel in "Suspicion".

Grace was his dear, elderly friend. Hutch was as straight as the late Dominick Dunne!

Corey Haim in "The Lost Boys". Very, very gay.

Anton Walbrook as Lermontov in "The Red Shoes."

I disagree about Lermontov, for the plot to make any sense he has to have more than a professional interest in Vicky. Agree that he acts "gay", of course.

Mr. Spock, also of course.

Joseph Fiennes in Enemy at the Gates.

R40 - A Room with a View is just full of closeted gay characters. I would add Freddy Honeychurch and Reverend Beebe to the list.

[quote]I disagree about Lermontov, for the plot to make any sense he has to have more than a professional interest in Vicky. Agree that he acts "gay", of course.

He isn't jealous of Vicky's romantic attachment, though. He wants her to devote herself entirely to their art. The character was famously based on Diaghilev, who was gay.

Another implicitly gay character in a Powell and Pressburger film is Eric Portman's "the glue man" in the wonderful A CANTERBURY TALE. Both Anton Walbrook and Eric Portman were gay in real life, of course.

Sidney Carton?

maybe Brick from "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"

Peter Lorre's character in "The Maltese Falcon".

The chubby dude in The Devil Wears Prada. You get the feeling his part was cut waaay back.

Has anyone mentioned Peter Lorre in The Maltese Falcon?

Brick from Cat On a Hot Tin Roof was gay gay gay. Tennessee Williams wrote the character as gay. TORTURED and gay, as all gays had to be back then, of course. In the stage play it is more overtly obvious, not so much from mannerisms but from the dialogue and implications of Brick's relationship with Skipper, the root cause of his alcoholism and his refusal to sleep with Maggie. It is why she is so frustrated up there on that hot tin roof. When it came around to filming the story, Hollywood gutted the gay aspect (as usual, thank the Production Code) so the gay implications were telegraphed in, were insinuated, were implied. Viewers had to draw that conclusion. It was always a clusterfuck for the American public when gays were depicted in movies from the 1930's through the 1960's.

John Travoltas priest brother in Saturday Night Fever.

John Hoyt in Winter Meeting

Hope Emerson in Caged

R39 Theres no reason to think Paul Varjak is gay.

Al Pacino's cop character in Cruising

Agnes Moorehead's character in Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte.

The old dykey ornithologist in The Birds.

Marlin Brandos character in Reflections in a Golden Eye.

Richard Andersons character, Alan Stewart, in The Long, Hot Summer.

We already did a crypto-gay thread, but I guess that was 10 years ago and I can't find it archived.

I don't think Star Wars "implied" that anyone was gay.

But Luke Skywalker, C-3P0 and R2-D2 were all huge fags.

Waylon Smithers is implied gay.

In every version of Mutiny on The Bounty, the sub-text is that the captain is gay & lusting after the unattainable Fletcher Christian.

It's most obvious, though, in the Anthony Hopkins/Mel Gibson remake.

R48 Good call. I too, always thought he was after Jude Law, not Rachel Weisz. The movie would have us believe the straight angle instead.

r49, the British TV remake of A Room With A View some years ago upped the ante on the Reverend Beebe, he was definitely gay there, chatting up rough trade and had a decided gleam in his eye stripping off to join the naked others in the pond . Mark Williams was ideal.

Peter O'Toole in Becket.

Darryl on The Walking Dead.

Pant-suited Lucille Ball in Stage Door

"The Maltese Falcon" is very gay. Not just Peter Lorre but Sidney Greenstreet and his rough trade boy toy Wilmer played by Elisha Cook Jr. Sam Spade winces at the amount of cologne/perfume Wilmer wears. Also the two men in "Gilda" - George Macready and Glenn Ford - have been mentioned as having an undercurrent of homosexual attraction. I don't see it. Also Tony Curtis in "Spartacus". Also take a look at "Strange Cargo" with Joan Crawford and Clark Gable. Gay subplot with "Moll" and "The Kid".

Elmira Gulch was definitely a bull dyke.

I love Desert Fury, R15, and you're right, the gay subtext in that film is so blatant is barely qualifies as subtext. Quite remarkable for a mainstream Hollywood film in the 1940s. Mary Astor lustfully kissing her daughter Lizbeth Scott full on the lips in scorching Technicolor -- DEVIANTS!

Mischa Auer as the flaming fashion photographer in Lady in the Dark.

Several of the Chaplin Chaplin silent shorts have flamboyantly sissy male characters.

Jack Lemmon in Bell Book and Candle

Van Heflin in his Oscar-winning performance in "Johnny Eager" as Robert Taylor's Shakespeare-quoting alcoholic "best friend," who dreams of running off to the mountains with Taylor. The final scene clinches it.

Mingo and Fante are obviously a couple in THE BIG COMBO (played by Earl Holliman and Lee Van Cleef, respectively).

All the priests in "The Exorcist", especially Karras and Dyer.

Matt Damon's character in "The Martian"

R72 Lemmon didn't play Nicky as gay, but I sure did when I did the role back in high school!

R76, he hated disco.

Mongo from "Blazing Saddles", despite his protest

Carmen Ghia in THE PRODUCERS

Mr. Wynt and Mr. Kidd. ("Diamonds Are Forever")

Rosa Kleb. ("From Russia with Love")

Percy Dovetonsils. ("Ernie Kovacs")

Norman Page. ("Peyton Place")

Pinky Lee.

The old college chum in "BITB."

Dr. T.

Charles Ruggles as the elegant and slightly fey big game hunter, Major Applegate, in Bringing Up Baby. At one point, stammering, he starts to introduce himself as "the aunt."

Martha Dumptruck

Marlon Wayans in requiem for a dream

Harold Gould in the sting

Dweezil Zappa in the running man

Eddie furlong in T2

Professor X and Magneto (the X-men movies)

The writer character in "The Women".

Adam Goldberg & Tony Rapp in dazed & confused

De Niro in goodfellas

Larenz Tate in menace II society

Oliver Reed in gladiator

Stallone in cobra

Clawhauser in 'Zootopia'.

Streep in Sophie's Choice.

[quote]De Niro in goodfellas

Really? Jimmy Burke wasn't gay in real life.

I don't know when you stopped watching The Simpsons, but Wayland Smithers has been explicitly, not implicitly gay for years.

The season even had an episode devoted to the fact that he's in love with Mr. Burns and Mr. Burns doesn't love him.

R49 My favorite movie, changed my life a lot.

Kevin Spacey's character in L.A. CONFIDENTIAL.

Hui Fei (Anna May Wong), Lily's companion in Shanghai Express. I also imagine Lily (Dietrich) to be mostly a lesbian grifter, who uses men.

The entire bus in Jeepers Creepers 2.

Here's a real, not imagined, one (I'm looking at you, r84---Short Eyes):

The Chaplain character in Serpico. After the incident with the explicitly gay closet case character and his Police Chief, Serpico talks to the Chaplain who listens, and then tells him about a retreat for Catholic men.

Peter O'Toole's character in The Last Emperor.

Riff in "West Side Story" had his queeny moments; I know--Graciela was his "girl", but his true love was Tony.

Also, his Shakespearean counterpart, Mercutio in the Baz Lurhmann "Romeo + Juliet" was almost explicitly gay.

Matt Damon as Tom Ripley in The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Messala in "Ben Hur"

Prince Valium in "Spaceballs"

Uh, Ripley gets together with a guy at the end. What's implicit about it?

The babydyke "Anybodys" in West Side Story.

Ginger Rogers and Una Merkel in 42nd St.

Batman.

I know this is television, but COME ON! Did people actually NOT get the insinuation in those days?!

Michael Rispoli in summer of Sam

Peter and Roger in the original DAWN OF THE DEAD.

Gian Maria Volontè and Lou Castel in the 1966 western A BULLET FOR THE GENERAL. The romantic element to their relationship is made pretty clear but it's never shown or stated outright.

The following year Lou Castel starred in another western, REQUIESCANT, in which Mark Damon's character is clearly gay. Pier Paolo Pasolini is also in the film.

And another 1966 spaghetti western that comes to mind (or Zapata western) is the superb THE BIG GUNDOWN. Not gay characters, per se, but there's an awesome sequence in a male whorehouse run by a strong woman. You don't see any clients, but I assume they must service men, too...

[quote]The entire bus in Jeepers Creepers 2.

Including the bulldagger behind the wheel.

Barbara Stanwyck's madam in WALK ON THE WILD SIDE.

Yes R108 ! From listening to the Dawn of The Dead cast commentary I think it's pretty obvious they see it too- much hilarity over the Peter/Roger chest stroking and the symbolic champage cork popping scene- I love that movie! (I'd also add the two guys who are living together in the caravan in the original Day of The Dead, but that's less obvious)

Mr. Wynt and Mr. Kidd. ("Diamonds Are Forever") are explicitly gay. Bond even makes a comment about "Flaming F*gg*ts" when he sets them on fire.

Monty Wooley in The Man Who Came to Dinner

George Patton in Patton

Kenneth Mars as the cop in Young Frankenstein

The female medic & the tough female Latina soldier in Aliens.

Robert Morley in The African Queen (no pun intended)

There was a 1940 film called TILL WE MEET AGAIN. It starred the beautiful Merle Oberon and George Brent. The film itself was an uneven remake of ONE-WAY PASSAGE with Kay Fwancis. A bit trite and cliched, but it had an unusual opening sequence of an Eurasian drag queen singing "Blue Moon" in the opening sequence. I thought that was strange especially for a film made when The Hays Code was in full effect.

Large Marge

Pete Postlethwaite as Roland in Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World.

I thought Professor Sorel, the principled school teacher (played by Philip Merivale) in Jean Renoir's THIS LAND IS MINE was implicitly gay. Charles Laughton's character is a teacher who still lives with his mother but he's in love Maureen O'Hara. Given this, Professor Sorel says to him at one point, "I thought you were a confirmed bachelor like me."

What about LES ENFANTS DU PARADIS? I think it's pretty clear that the thief, Pierre François Lacenaire (played by Marcel Herrand), is gay; but I always read the mime Baptiste, played by Jean-Louis Barrault as gay, too; even though he's in love with Arletty, but then they all are, aren't they?

It's more text than subtext I suppose (rumours are voiced at one point) but I saw Eastern Promises with a group of people who didn't notice that Kirill was gay or that a big part of the film was Viggo Mortensen's character using the fact that Kirill was obviously in love with him to huge advantage in manipulating him- great chemistry between them too.

[quote]Mr. Orange and Mr. White in Reservoir Dogs.

[quote][R13] absolutely agree with Mr White and Mr Orange, the plot doesn't really make sense if they're not romantically involved with each other ( I'd also add Mr Blonde and Eddie- that movie is so utterly gay I'm always gobsmacked how well they mis-sold it to the straight bro audience)

Y'know, I haven't watched "Reservoir Dog" since it came out, but I was a completely different person back then, and y'all are blowing my mind. I've got to re-watch it. NOW.

The youngest Warrior in The Warriors. The nelly latin one with the frizz-fro.

And all those lezbos in the Lizzies gang, but that was pretty explicit.

Billy and Stu in SCREAM, I can't count the number of arguments I've had about that one- their body language/way they look at each other is very obvious to me anyway. And old films based on the Leopold/Loeb case- Rope and Compulsion- which can hint very broadly but never mention it directly (Dean Stockwell is especially good in Compulsion)

Ryan Gosling's character in MURDER BY NUMBERS.

Gene Hackman's character in "No Way Out" is bisexual--I'm convinced he was having affairs with both the Sean Young prostitute character and the Will Patton gay assistant character.

David Peel as Baron Meinster in Brides of Dracula.

Jesse (Mark Patton) in A Nightmare on Elm Street 2. The whole movie is one big coming out metaphor.

Not just Nicky, but all of the witches in 'Bell Book & Candle'.

[quote]Billy and Stu in SCREAM, I can't count the number of arguments I've had about that one- their body language/way they look at each other is very obvious to me anyway

In the Wayans' Bros. spoof of SCREAM, SCARY MOVIE the Billy and Stu composites played by Shawn Wayans and Jon Abrahams messed around with each other.

Thanks R131, I've never seen Scary Movie but i'll cite that if (when) the argument comes round again!

R117, Till We Meet Again is the one where Oberon and Brent meet on an ocean line headed to San Francisco and immediately fall n love, right? But he doesn't know she is dying of heart disease and he is being escorted back to be executed. My favorite line is when Oberon peeks around a corner, sees Brent, then turns to her companion "Quick! My amyl nitrate!"

Anyone in love with Arletty today is gay. Everyone else has forgotten her.

There has been a theory for years that Bell, Book and Candle is at least partly an allegory of gay life in the 1950s. They all live in the West Village, socialize with each, go to their own bars and restaurants , leading this secret life while normal people around them usually suspect nothing. It used to be a controversial idea. The original playwright John Van Druten denied he ever intended such a thing but perhaps he was being disingenuous -- he was a smart, witty but discreetly gay man who lived for awhile in the Village and the parallels must have been obvious to him.

Basil Rathbone in Sherlock Holmes and Robin Hood. Tyrone Power in Zorro.

Billy Zane and Jason Priestley in TOMBSTONE. At least, I think it's implicit, but it's been a few years since I saw the film.

I love threads like these.

Robert Downey Jr. in BACK TO SCHOOL.

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Pussy Galore.

the gays don't watch James Bond films r138 (well maybe the Daniel Craig ones but the rest are too straight)

In "At Close Range", I always thought Christopher Walken sort of wanted to ball his own sons

At Close Range is sort of homoerotic. They film Sean Penn like he is in gay porn.

What is the story with that director, James Foley? Gay? He was the same guy who lovingly filmed Aidan Quinn's penis in Reckless.

R139 is right. I've seen Goldfinger, Thunderball, and the one from Winter '72. And that is it.

No, r139: I was a member of the official James Bond fan club as a teenage gayling, have seen all the films several times and have even read all the Ian Fleming novels.

Pussy Galore is explicitly a lesbian in the novel, but became implicit in the film.

Wint and Kidd from Diamonds are Forever have been mentioned twice here.

Others:

Rosa Klebb in From Russia With Love

Irma Bundt in On Her Majesty's Secret Service

An over-eager bellboy in Moonraker

What about Scaramanga & knick knack?

Claude Rains in Casablanca and I bet Humphrey Bogart is bi as well. Watch that last scene again...

your are the exception r143, not the rule

The Tin Man, the Cowardly Lion, the Wizard,

R115, every article on the movie characters, as opposed to the novel's, uses the term "implicitly."

And I don't credit your alleged Bond quote.

Sal Mineo's character in "Rebel Without a Cause."

Jennifer Jason Leigh in SINGLE WHITE FEMALE (she only sucks off Steven Weber's character to prove he would cheat on Bridget Fonda; I love that her name is HEDY)

Mickey Rourke and Eric Roberts in THE POPE OF GREENWICH VILLAGE (aerobic airhead Daryl Hannah is just a beard for Rourke)

Greg Marmalard in ANIMAL HOUSE (two girls attempt to jerk him off but he can't get it up)

Robert Stephens's Holmes in Billy Wilder's THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES. Wilder later said he wished he'd made it more explicit.

[quote]Jennifer Jason Leigh in SINGLE WHITE FEMALE (she only sucks off Steven Weber's character to prove he would cheat on Bridget Fonda; I love that her name is HEDY)

I'm not sure about that one. She is trying to replace her dead twin sister and find an identity. That is her attraction to Fonda. I think just saying she is a lesbian simplifies it too much.

Yes R117, that is the movie. She did use a lot of poppers didn't she?

I meant r133, sorry

Richard Jenkins' character in There's Something about Mary.

Myron Breckinridge. NOT a typo.

Al Pacino's character in Cruising. Not convinced for one second he was ever in love with Karen Allen.

Chet in Weird Science.

Geoffrey Rush's character in Shakespeare in Love.

One last horror movie one: Christopher Eccleston's Major West in 28 Days Later- he's promised the women to his soldiers but it's very obvious he means to keep Cillian Murphy for himself (who can blame him, it's Cillian Murphy)

Bennett in Commando

Everyone in Top Gun

Sara Gilbert in Poison Ivy

[quote]The youngest Warrior in The Warriors. The nelly latin one with the frizz-fro.

The actor was gay and died of AIDS.

Multiple characters in "Mary Poppins": Katie Nanna, Uncle Albert, the penguin who humped Bert's leg in the dance, Admiral Boom and his sailor assistant, Mrs Brill, most of the bankers and possible Bert.

Any character played by Elsa Lanchester, Reta Shaw, Judith Anderson, Agnes Morehead, and Eve Arden

R159 I was just about to comment on that- it may just be the actor's personality coming through rather than the character, if any of the Warriors I'd say Ajax, who is SO aggressively heterosexual and constantly worries about "acting like f*ggots" I'm sure he's overcompensating (all while wearing a lovely leather waistcoat over bare chest and earring)

[quote]it may just be the actor's personality coming through rather than the character

I'm pretty sure the character was implied to be gay in that scene where he and several of the Warriors are taken in by the gang of girls, who represent Sirens - they use their female sexuality to blind the gang who seem oblivious to the danger they're in. Only the young gay character, Rembrandt (played by Marcelino Sánchez), is shown to be immune to their sexuality and he is totally aware of the danger they're in. I thought that was the scene where it was clearly implied he was gay.

R163 ah yes I'd forgotten his part in that scene- apologies! You're right (and so was he to be suspicious- what a great fight scene that was with the Lizzies!) I still think Ajax is overcompensating though

Serge from the Beverly Hills Cop movies.

Amy Schumer's boyfriend played by John Cena in Trainwreck.

He will deny it but Mark Wahlberg's character in The Departed.

Ben Kingsley characters in both Maurice and Schindler's List.

Elliott Goulds character in the Oceans Eleven movies.

Paul Scofield as the judge in The Crucible. And at least some of the "afflicted" girls. Lezbos in training.

Eugene, in Grease.

Gary Oldham & Ian Holm in The Fifth Element. Holms #2 priest too.

Brad Pitt in Burn After Reading

r134, Zorro? You couldn't tell that was Don Diego's put-on dandy act so as not to seem threatening to Don Luis Quintero or Capt. Esteban? That he was in love with the girl?

r127, I disagree, re: Hackman's character in "NWO." His assistant "Scott" was gay and in love with him, but IMO "David Brice" took advantage of that to have a trustworthy toady. And when Scott realizes it, BANG!

Martin Landau's character "Leonard" in "North By Northwest."

"Mrs. Gilbert" and her live-in friend "Boothy" in "The World of Henry Orient." A movie way ahead of its time whose young lead actresses outshone even Peter Sellers and Angela Lansbury.

Almost certainly been mentioned but just in case not: the quintessential example and recognised as such probably thesis(es?) and shit (western culture is fucked !) s Nightmare On Elm Street 2

Bud Frump and Smitty in "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying"

Che in "Evita"

Marcellus Washburn and Ethel Toffelmier in "The Music Man"

Mama Morton in "Chicago"

[quote] Adam Goldberg and Tony Rapp in Dazed & Confused.

Weren't they just drawn as hapless and virginal, R87? Tony's 'Abe Lincoln' wet dream just comes off as weird and desperate, rather than gay.

The gay character in D&C was Karl (Esteban Powell), the bitch-blond that Ben Affleck's bully character was dying to spank with a baseball bat.

Btw I recommend watching audition footage for D&C, it's now available online. Some of the cast did very charming readings, Rapp especially.

Also, Parker Posey's Darla was hilarious and simply the perfect Bitch. She stole the movie.

"I'm BAAAAD, Honey! I'm just BAD! No-one crosses me, they know what I do. I mean, I've had TROUBLE."

It does make sense that Karl is a bossy bottom with a sexual tension aimed at o'bannion.

However, I still think Goldberg was gay.

Remember when he outs himself as a future DL elder gay by realizing he is a misanthrope after a visit to the post office where he mingles with the unwashed masses?

At he end of that scene, he also reveals he is skipping law school because he wants to dance!

Smiles a Lot in "Dances With Wolves". Look at the close up of him when Dances With Wolves and Stands With a Fist get married.

Someone just posted this in the "rumors you definitely believe to be true" thread:

[quote]I remember seeing a documentary on the 25 anniversary (1994) of Midnight Cowboy and Voigt said (I'm paraphrasing) that he thought it was a pity the movie didn't feature a scene showing his character and Razzo lying in bed together.

Joe Buck and Ratso definitely belong here, I think. I'm sure I read a few years back that there was a lot of homophobia behind the scenes of that film. The crew knew John Schlesinger was gay and what the film was really about and so they must have felt the need to be overtly homophobic to show they weren't no fruits.

Does anybody remember the movie 'The Chocolate War'?

Archie (the leader of the Vigils)

In the book he was heterosexual, but in the movie I got the distinct feeling that he was gay.

The Dirk Bogarde and James Fox characters in 'The Servant.'

Hal the computer in '2001', the ultimate power-bottom.

r76, omg I thought I was only one.

Russ Tamblyn in any movie he's ever done.

the Ripley character is rather explicitly gay. if anything jude law's character might be implicitly bi. Explicit doesn't mean the film's tone or character's motives can't be subtle.

shawn WAYANS in scary is not implied, its very obvious. Its so over the top, that what makes many of his scenes hilarious. who the fuck would argue otherwise.

r183 I think the person upthread was saying that the explicit homosexuality of those two characters was a parody of the implicitly gay duo in SCREAM. They were replying to someone who said he always gets into arguments with friends when he suggests Skeet Ulrich and Matthew Lillard are gay in the latter film.

Harrison Ford's assistant to Robert Duvall in The Conversation. "There's some nice Christmas cookies."

r178, that was Wallace Langham, who almost always seems to play crypto-gay characters. According to IMDB, he has been married 3 times (to women). Has always seemed completely gay to me...

Rachel in "The Trouble With Angeles"

*"Angels"

The clip from R174 is simply iconic. Parker Posey is a national treasure.

Sebastian Stan plays gay a lot, but even his straight roles read this way. The only roles he's played with no overt/implicit gay reading whatsoever are the lonely teen in Red Doors (2005) and the arsonist in Rachel Getting Married (2008). Both parts are (arguably) written as insane.

Tony Stark

[quote]and possible Bert

How gay can he be if he keeps hitting on her the way he does? If he tried that with me, I'd turn him into a rabbit.

R187 The "real" Rachel--Jane Trahey, the author of the memoir "Life with Mother Superior"--was a pioneer for women in advertising and PR and was an out lesbian who lived with the same partner for many decades.

Annie

Darla could be seen as a closet Les R189. She sure loved dominating her 'Little Freshmen Sluts'. "Smile, you LOVE it, you LOVE us..."

O'Bannion is so vile in this movie. "Ma'am, I was just escorting your fine young son home from school... " Shudder.

Cornelius and Barnaby in "Hello, Dolly!"

Johnny in [italic]Song of the South[/italic]

Always wondered about Mrs Gilbert and Boothie. Clearly carpet munchers.

Michael Gough in Horrors of the Black Museum and Konga.

[quote]Stephen Boyd as Messala in Ben-Hur

Gore Vidal says he was responsible for that.

Mary McGregor in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.

Tom Courtney's character in Dr. Zhivago.

Mary Wickes in everything.

[quote]Peter O'Toole in Becket.

On the DVD commentary, O'Toole was asked about whether there was a gay subtext between him & Richard Burton and he said no.

R145 In Casablanca, it is strongly implied Claude Rains’ character, the admittedly corrupt official and womanizing Captain Louis Renault, was procuring the sexual favors of the pretty women seeking letters of transit out of Casablanca.

[quote]Y'know, I haven't watched "Reservoir Dog" since it came out, but I was a completely different person back then, and y'all are blowing my mind. I've got to re-watch it. NOW.

No kidding, R123, it only gets gayer with each subsequent viewing. Say what you will about Tarantino, God knows he has his faults. But he's a damn genius IMO, if only for (like r20 said) how he managed to pass a gay love story off as a macho action flick beloved by dudebros the world over.

Now here's one I've been pondering: Ex Machina fans, what do we think about Ava? The scene where she runs into Kyoko came across as very homoerotic. Having stepped out of her room to meet someone other than a male for the very first time, I'd love to think of that as her (2nd) boldest act of defiance against her maker and his glorified Real Doll -- er sorry, "AI" programming.

Riley (Justin Bartha) in National Treasure seemed gay. In the sequel they straighten him out though. I liked the character in the first one.

I was always very suspicious of the relationship maintained by Spring Byington and Verna Felton in the 1950s sitcom December Bride.

Speaking of 1950s sitcoms......Walter Denton (Richard Crenna) and Mr. Boynton (Robert Rockwell) in Our Miss Brooks.

And Vern Albright (Charles Farrell) on My Little Margie.

Not to mention Schultzy (Ann B. Davis), Pamela Livingstone (Nancy Culp) and Harvey (King Donovan) on Love That Bob.

Every character in Fright Night.

[quote]Oh Lord, no one hasn't yet mentioned Mrs. Danvers from "Rebecca"? Look at 2:26 and 4:11 in this clip. How could anyone NOT notice the lesbian undertones taking place?

That was actually true to the books. That whole "predatory evil lesbian" storyline was a fascinating bit of self-loathing on the author's part. Not surprising for the time.

Ptolemy & his closest advisor, both of whom are executed by Roddy McDowells Caesar Augustus, in CLEOPATRA.

Al Pacinos opera-singing son, in Godfather III.

^^ Caesar Augustus was gay in Cleopatra, too. Forgot to write that in...

Marjorie Main in anything, Miss Bliss (Selena Royle) in "The Harvey Girls" had to be Sonora Cassidy's (Main) wife.

R127, the Will Patton character was so consumed with sexual frustration and unfulfilled longing that it seemed to motivate most of his actions, spiteful and otherwise--there's no way he was getting it from the Gene Hackman character; he was driven by unrequited lust. Also, in a low-on-subtlety mainstream Hollywood movie like "No Way Out," if the Gene Hackman character barely ever as much glanced at him and also blatantly undervalued him, you can pretty much be sure there's nothing smouldering there beneath the service. If there were, the movie would have communicated that with "meaningful glances" and the like. Only someone tormented by unrequited love/lust could show THAT degree of devotion.

Captain America and his beloved "best friend" Bucky, in the recent Marvel films. They even made Cap "too shy to talk to girls"!

Spaulding in caddyshack

Henry rush on too close for comfort

Dirty Harry.

Clearly overcompensating.

The Allesandro Nivola character in Jurassic Park 3 is clearly in love with his professor played by Sam Neill. And the Sam Neill character knows it, if not encourages it.

Peter O'Toole as 'Lawrence of Arabia'. Lawrence was gay in real-life, of course, but they can only really imply it in the film.

Another vote for Michael Corleone's son in Godfather III. The opera...

R160 Bert wasn't gay, he loved Mary! And Mavis, Sybil, Prudence, Gwendolyn, Pheobe, Maude, Janice, Felicia, Lydia, Cynthia, Vivian, Stephanie, Priscilla, Veronica, Millicent, Agnes, Jane, Dorcas, Phyllis and Glynis...

That dude in THE PARALLAX VIEW who gets blown up on his yacht with his "bodyguard" - they're clearly supposed to be a couple.

I also think Donald Segretti is implied to be gay in ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN.

R214 - you are so right. Civil War in this case makes no sense unless Captain America and Bucky are lovers (probably in the past not in the present). The premise of Civil War in the comics was that superheroes are dangerous and must be registered by the government. They would loose their anonymity. In the movie, it seems that they are split because of Bucky. I would love to see Marvel come out with a movie that has a message of "love who you love" and "fight against oppression." I'm sure that message is in the background, but I'd love to see Cap kiss Bucky.

UGH, Anne Hathaway is the WORST. In fact, that entire scene was embarrassing.

for R186 regarding Wallace Langham

[quote]He was accused of beating a stringer for the Star tabloid during an altercation on September 7 1999. He was charged with one count of misdemeanor battery and one count of committing a hate crime. He agreed to a six-figure settlement with the reporter who accused him of an anti-gay hate crime on January 26th 2000. The altercation between the two men stemmed from remarks that the reporter allegedly made about Langham's girlfriend.

Lundgren and Geiger in Howard Hawks's THE BIG SLEEP.

Charles Laughton in "Witness for the Prosecution."

Henry Higgins and Col. Pickering in "My Fair Lady"

James Stewart in Harvey

Laurel and Hardy

R9

TONY RANDALL was in 1 DORIS DAY movies in the late 50s; he was in 2 of her films in the 1960s.

R26

RODDY McDOWALL in damn near anything he was in really would be more apt.

Vargas in the James bond film THUNDERBALL.

Randy Owens in DESIGNING WOMAN

Mrs. Fothergill in MODESTY BLAISE

(Dirk Bogarde was too obviously so, per usual)

Marvel Anne in THE TROUBLE WITH ANGELS

Title role of THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLAIRE

Charles Laughton in anything.

Frau Bunt in ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE

Even when he played Henry VIII?

Jon Voight's character in DELIVERANCE was so obviously lusting after Burt Reynolds' character of Lewis.

In the scene where Lewis is stripping down for the night and a grateful Ed is eying him.

At one point Lewis says something to him along the lines of "just why are you always going with me on these trips of mine ?" Ed says something about , " Anything could happen out here and no one would ever know.........."

And back then REYNOLDS was one hot fuck !!

R218 Implicitly gay? I only saw Lawrence of Arabia once. As a clueless teenager, I came away with the impression that it was the most homoerotic movie I had ever seen. I'll have to give it a decades later rewatch. I only remember snippets of the story but I had an everlasting impression that it was gay gay gay. And the desert scenery was beautiful.

Buzz Aldrin as the thirsty bottom/understudy during the Apollo 11 'moon landing'

The Caterpillar in the 1940s Disney version of Alice in Wonderland.

"Whooooo arrrrre youuuuuu?", while smoking a hookuh.

Ray Milland in 'The Lost Weekend.'

Philip Seymour Hoffman's character Scotty J in Boogie Nights. John C. Riley's character Reed Rothchild too.

[quote]I only saw Lawrence of Arabia once. As a clueless teenager, I came away with the impression that it was the most homoerotic movie I had ever seen.

Didn't Noel Coward say that Peter O'Toole was so pretty that it should have been called 'Florence of Arabia'?

Apparently, Dirk Bogarde was one of the early choices to play Lawrence in the film. That would have been interesting but I'm glad it went to O'Toole.

I think the implication in the picture that Lawrence is gay only really comes through in the stuff with Dahoum and the scene showing him enjoying being whipped by other men. The latter has I think always been considered a nod to Lawrence's sexuality but even that can easily be read as merely showing he had (and apparently did have in real life) a sad-masochistic streak. And the Dahoum stuff can just be seen as friendship. It's all there though if you know Lawrence was gay in real life.

I guess the scene where he's alone in the desert and admiring himself in his robes has some undertones, too.

*sado

Deadpool. Implicitly, because we all know there's never going to be any actual gay action there, beyond tokenism.

[quote]Philip Seymour Hoffman's character Scotty J in Boogie Nights.

Scotty was pretty explicit, considering the big, sloppy, wet one he plants on Dirk's lips.

Miriam Polar in VALLEY OF THE DOLLS

Katharine Hepburn's swishy male secretary who keeps annoying Spencer Tracy in Woman of the Year.

He is only on for a moment but the male student who has an apple for teacher Harrison Ford in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Oh yes, Mrs. Danvers. "FEEL this!", she said as she rubbed Rebecca's fur in Joan Fontaine's face.

the mother (G) in Garp?

Judith Anderson always gave off a lesbian vibe.

Rat and Damone in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Tom Cruise and Paul Newman in The Color of Money.

John Cusack and Jeremy Piven in Serendipity.

Mary Kay Place in The Big Chill

Higgins and Pickering

Judy Greer in 13 Going on 30.

Danny Aiello in Moonstruck.

R2D2 and C3PO

Ice Cube and Kevin Hart in the Ride Along movies.

[quote]R2D2 and C3PO

George Lucas was asked about them and he said he didn't intend for them to be a gay couple.

C3P0 may have been gay but R2 always seemed straight and on the spectrum perhaps

Jerry in The Love Machine. David Hemmings hid nothing.

R123 i did the same with Reservoir Dogs- didn't see it for years after initial release then rewatched and can't believe I missed the subtext the first time around- it's so unusual to see two men being allowed to be so tender with each other onscreen, it really is a love story

Mary Kay is BFFs with Rita Mae Brown and Fannie Flagg. Do the math.

Mickey Mouse's dog was gay!?!?!

Sara in "Picnic At Hanging Rock".

[quote]Sara in "Picnic At Hanging Rock".

Wasn't the author Joan Lindsay in a lavender marriage? She was a rather stern-looking thing.

Audrey Hepburn & Shirley MacLaine in The Children's Hour. It was implicitly, not explicitly stated.

I think the cuntlet who accused them was a lezbo in training.

There are a lot of possible subtexts in 'Picnic at Hanging Rock'.

The headmistress, Mrs. Appleyard, is a widow who is very close to the spinster, Miss McCraw, and is devastated by her disappearance.

Sara seems infatuated with Miranda (as do many other girls & teachers at the college).

And there is also a possible gay vibe between Michael & Albert.

Rolf, both of the Von Trapp sons, Herr Detwiler, the endlessly bowing frau, Mother Superior & all the nunnettes in Sound of Music.

Scarletts male house slave, Mrs Meade & that flaming Ashley Wilkes, GWTW.

[quote]Wasn't the author Joan Lindsay in a lavender marriage?

I believe the Lindsay marriage was childless.

Christoph Waltz in Inglorious Basterds

Stanley Tucci in The Devil Wears Prada

The crazy uncle who loses the money, Its a Wonderful Life. Mr Potter too.

Sister Liguori and Sister Clarissa in THE TROUBLE WITH ANGELS. The jury is out on Mother Superior, because she had long before learned the grace of discretion.

Tom Robinson Lee in TEA AND SYMPATHY. Fuck that shit about being manipulated by a cunning older woman and being married while in the closet.

Nancy Blake in THE WOMEN, because unlike R86 I am not too lazy to provide the name of an implicitly gay character.

Ashe (played by Michael Hordern) in THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD.

Isn't Kevin Kline's "Otto" from A FISH CALLED WANDA supposed to be at least a latent bisexual? All that stuff with him constantly sniffing his own armpits.

Jenny Fields was asexual.

Anne Hathaway's very good Selina Kyle/Catwoman in the otherwise execrable "Dark Knight Rises is intended to be bisexual. And a selfish, thieving enemy of the upstanding and INNOCENT 1%! The film reminds us we need our masters, otherwise all the greedy masses will loot and ruin everything.

Audrey Hepburn was not gay in The Children's Hour. Shirley was, as explicitly as you could be without saying it.

R278, it is clear that Tom Lee is in love with the Deborah Kerr character from the beginning. The whole point of the movie (and the play it was based on) is to be a plea for tolerance towards nonconforming straight guys, not actual gays

Robert Downey Jr. and Lili Taylor in Short Cuts.

He was trying to hard to seem straight, she was messed up from her stepdad.

Johnny Depp in Dark Shadows, Alice in Wonderland, Pirates...the list goes on and on.

Cuba Gooding Jr. And his best friend in Boyz in the Hood. He lied to his dad about being a virgin...

Captain Jack Sparrow is definitely very fey.

I always thought there was something gay about the gangster Marcel in Bunuel's BELLE DE JOUR. Or a least implied in the way he's presented in the film. There's a picture of him from the film below.

Also, isn't Deneuve's madam implied to be a lez?

R287 "fey" does not mean gay. Look it up.

David Suchet's Poirot. David shared in an interview the method he employed to master that clenched arse mincey walk we all now associate with Hercule. He would insert a penny in between his bum cheeks and walk in a manner so as not to drop the coin.

R289, but it's sometimes used as code for gay, especially in Britain.

Not a film character, but Kent on Whitechapel. Kid was obviously gay and had a crush on his boss. Women were flirting with him and he just threw away their phone numbers! I truly believe he would have come out if the show got a final season instead of getting cancelled.

The Acolytes motorbike gang, in particular, Toecutter, from Mad Max.

Those definitions at R291 are so varied that it renders that word practically meaningless

R292 - both DI Chandler and Kent seem gay. They are totally crushing on each other. The funniest part is that the rest of the team also realizes this and make some comments to show that they are OK with it.

Monica Breedlove from The Bad Seed. Probably her brother Emory as well.

In the original Bad Seed novel, Monica even accuses Emory of being a "larvated homosexual."

Any character who is a Marine.

"Those definitions at [R291] are so varied that it renders that word practically meaningless"

Translation: I will not let facts stand in the way of my thinking!

R299 = 0/10

'Picnic at Hanging Rock' also features a scene in which Michael (Dominic Guard) climbs up the mountain in tight pants.

Wez and his blond twink in Mad Max:The Road Warrior.

Jason Patric and Kiefer Sutherland in the Lost Boys. Given who directed it, I guess that's not a surprise.

The Artful Dodger in "Oliver!"

Corey Haim was also gay in the movie, R303. He even has a Rob Lowe poster on his wall, and sings show tunes.

any of the male Munchkins in The Wizard Of Oz

I just saw Doctor in the House (1954) and assumed that Taffy (Donald Houston) was a coded gay man since he had no girl that he chased after (unlike the other male characters), and, in fact, dismissed the very idea in preference to playing rugby.

Tom Sizemore in Where Sleeping Dogs Lie (1991). He first sees Dylan McDermott dressed only in a towel. Turns out Tom's a serial killer but he doesn't hurt Dylan.

Flipper in "Flipper."

And Lassie was a tranny.

The King & Queen of Hearts in Disney's "Alice In Wonderland"

R304 iirc doesn't the musical imply Dodger and the rest of Fagin's Boys are (hopelessly) infatuated with Nancy, in a puppy love sort of way?

There is a gay interpretation of Dodger in the Canadian independent film TWIST (2003), where 'Dodge' (played by Nick Stahl) is a hustler, but the implication is that he's only gay-for-pay (when 'Oliver' tries to kiss him, 'Dodge' reacts with disgust), and that he was abused as a kid and so shoots up/tricks to forget. It's an incredible film and an important watch in the Hustler genre, and as bleak as anything Dickens ever came up with.

The final scenes in TWIST where Dodge rejects Oliver and they part ways:

Doris Day in Calamity Jane

Patricia Neal in Breakfast at Tiffany's

Katharine Hepburn in Little Women

Snagglepuss in anything

Fez on That 70s Show

Tobias on Arrested Development

Michel on Gilmore Girls

Why would a lesbian keep a kept man r314 like Neal does in Tiffany's. ? I agree thugh Neal looks very butch here.

Paul & Gérard in "Les Enfants Terribles".

Lauren Bacall in Young Man with a Horn

Duckie in Pretty in Pink

R314 and R317, Patricia Neal in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" is a stand-in for a gay man. But Hollywood in 1960 couldn't have its male hero being kept by an older man, or admit the existence of bisexuality, so they put a woman who acted like a gay man into the film.

Agreed r321.

I never realized that The Queen of Hearts was Fred Flintstone in drag.

Z-Man in BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS

Van Heflin's character in "Johnny Eager ". It's obvious that he's in love with Robert Taylor's gangster.

Butterfly McQueen and Eve Arden in "Mildred Pierce."

White Squall - all the male characters

School Ties - all the male characters

Any version of The Picture of Dorian Gray - all the male characters

The Dancing Kid in "Johnny Guitar" seemed like rough trade.

His character didn't appear in the movie, but Jack Finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird" could be gay. He's Atticus' younger brother, somewhere around 40 years old, single, and a doctor. He left Alabama and lives in Boston with his cat. And of course, he's Jem and Scout's favorite.

“Gay subtext always makes every movie better.” – Quentin Tarantino

R320 also Steff and Benny were high-camp, and possibly gay depending who you ask.

In the current pic Everybody Wants Some!!, the freshmen with the curly hair, Brumley, is obviously gay.

Jim Carrey in Batman Forever.

R327, I don't think all those male characters are gay.

It's just that the directors have picked young, hot guys to portray the characters, and therefore it creates a homoerotic vibe for the gay men in the audience.

R333, was Jim Carrey's Riddler implicitly gay, or explicitly gay?

He was totally camp, obsessed with handsome Bruce Wayne, and didn't pretend to have any interest in girls.

Good question, R335. But it was a Warner Brothers summer product, so they never allowed the obvious to be stated.

Verbena in THE PARENT TRAP

Just saw Riot in Cell Block 11 (1954) and there's a scene where one of the prisoners is shown eyeing the ass of another prisoner quite blatantly, and it's even remarked upon by another prisoner, of course, without using "gay" or "homosexual."

[quote] Lemmon didn't play Nicky as gay

I'm not so sure about that...check out the way "Nicky" is dreamily fixated on one of the male horn players in the Zodiac club scene.

Plato in REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE

Jim Carrey in the Cable Guy

Every Bond villain. Every blond movie villain. Yes, there's an overlap.

Matt Dillon in In and Out.

Baron Waldheim (Carl Jaffe)

Sam, in Casablanca.

Major Strasser, Sasha the Russian bartender & Signor Ferrari (Sydney Greenstreet) too.

Robert Downey Jr, as Paul Avery, in Zodiac.

John Carrol Lynch, the primary Zodiac suspect.

The creeeeepy guy Jake Gyllenhaal meets up with, who had the house with the basement.

Johnny 5 in short circuit

Mrs Baylock in The Omen

Speaking of Jack Lemmon, what about his Jerry/Daphne in Some Like It Hot? As a little kid watching that movie, I certainly thought he was gay.

On the subject of musicals about poor people, the two main paperboys in the movie version of Newsies, even though the one played by Christian Bale has a flimsy romantic subplot with the other one's sister. See also: Pulitzer's extremely fey business advisor/servant.

Lex Luthor in Smallville

The two main paperboys in the movie Newsies, along with Joseph Pulitzer's hyper-fey manservant.

[quote]Rachel in "The Trouble With Angeles"

As dykey as Rachel seems, I always thought the "betrayal" that divided the girls at the end of the movie was Mary betraying Rachel and surreptitiously outing herself by renouncing a life of heterosexual privilege in order to hang out with a pack of lesbian nuns.

Marvel Ann also seems like a budding lesbian in Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows. When Rosabelle gets a temporary boyfriend on their road trip, Marvel Ann is more jealous of the boy than of her best friend.

Mrs. Schmauss in FREAKY FRIDAY

Barbara Hershey in BEACHES

Country Rose in BIG BUSINESS

Roquefort in THE ARISTOCATS

R146, I like your "Zodiac" suggestions. I thought the character played by Downey Jr. pinged like mad (and he and Gyllenhaal had unmistakable sexual chemistry), but the two creeps you mentioned seemed more like pedophiles to me than gay men.

Sorry, I meant R346.

Ralphie's Mom in A CHRISTMAS STORY

Julie Harris in Member of the Wedding

Roz in 9 to 5.

Henrietta Bazoom in SHOWGIRLS

Clyde Barrow in Bonnie and Clyde

Edward Scissorhands

[quote]Roz in 9 to 5.

Or she may just have been an alcoholic.

Camp Freddie in THE ITALIAN JOB (1969)

You're confused R364. Roz wasn't the office drunk she was Mr. Hart's nosy PA.

James Franco in the Spider-Man movies. Harry was SO in love with Peter, he could barely contain himself. Oh and that cunt Mary Jane was always getting in the way. I'm surprised he didn't try to kill her in the beginning.

[italic]Which[/italic] Spider Man movies, R367?

[quote] Duckie in Pretty in Pink —Anonymous

Funny that there is a dispute between the two stars about this: Jon Cryer says Duckie isn't gay, Molly Ringwald says he is.

Probably the ones James Franco starred in, R368.

Waldo Lydecker In "Laura".

Alan Bates in Women in Love.

Donald Pleasence in the excellent Aussie film Wake in Fright. At least he seemed infatuated with Gary Bond character.

Chaz Palminteri in Bullets Over Broadway

The character played by Downey Jr. in ZODIAC absolutely pinged, yes.

Also, his character in SHORT CUTS. Possibly IRON MAN. Sherlock holmes for sure. And can't remember the rest... He plays gay in the Jodie Foster movie...

You mean this movie, R372????

In early interviews RD, JR said he played Sherlock Holmes as gay, then the studio shut him up.

R186 I vaguely remember reading years ago about how Wallace Langham got busted for bashing a guy who called him gay.

Everyone from WHITE SQUALL (1996)

Doesn't hurt that Scott Wolfe, Ryan Phillipe and Jeremy Sisto are in it.

R378 meet R224

The prissy male cocktail party guests at Diane Keatons place, in Woody Allens "Sleeper".

McConaughey's character in Magic Mike.

Judy Dench, "Notes on a Scandal"

Ursula the Sea Witch, from The Little Mermaid

[quote]Donald Pleasence in the excellent Aussie film Wake in Fright. At least he seemed infatuated with Gary Bond character.

I think the Gary Bond character is implied to be gay, too. The film's writer, Evan Jones, said of Bond's character: "He discovers he is a weak man and that he is potentially gay..."

It's been a while since I've seen it but isn't there a scene where a woman tries to seduce him and he's kind of repulsed by it or at the very least clearly not interested?

And Gary Bond was gay in real life, of course. He'd been living with Jeremy Brett in London for several years at the time (next door to John Schlesinger, I think).

What's the deal with Ruth and/or Aunt Sylvie in the film of Marilynne Robinson's HOUSEKEEPING? It's a great film, but I could never work out if they're both just supposed to be outsiders and loners or if there was a subtext there for both or either one of them. Ruth's sister, Lucille, begins to grow away from them both as she starts to notice boys and wants to be pretty and dress like all the other girls in school. But Ruth is never bothered by her appearance, never wears dresses or does her hair, seems more comfortable in trousers and a shirt. And when they ask Aunt Sylvie about her husband, she seems so uninterested in him or his whereabouts that it's like she's completely forgotten about him.

Miss Mazeppa in GYPSY

The thread is about who appears GAY, not lesbian.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Call me crazy but Bryan Singer's X2 did seem to imply that young defector-from-the-cause Pyro was in confused & unrequited love with his closet-case best frenemy Iceman. While the given reason for their beef is that unstable loner Pyro is jealous of Bobby's privileged upbringing (this is mentioned once, then forgotten after an action sequence), it was obvious Pyro's hatred was more towards Bobby's girlfriend Rogue. Many reviews of the movie written around the time of release more or less agree with the idea that both were frustrated/closeted gay teens who couldn't figure out how their relationship was changing.

Honestly, this movie was so full of gay characters and actors (McKellen, Jackman, Cummings, Romjin etc.) that Pyro & Iceman's thwarted love got lost in the shuffle.

[quote]Grand Moff Tarkin

Peter Cushing was kind of bitchy in that role, but I don't know if he was meant to be gay.

Don't you understand why he enjoyed holding Vader's leash?

The ladies of the original "Cat People"

Iris Adrian in THE LOVE BUG

So many characters in Hitchcock movies.

My bad, looks like Iceman may not be so implicit in future after all. Hope Marvel let Shawn really go for it.

Christopher Walken in THE DEER HUNTER

Rod Steiger in NO WAY TO TREAT A LADY

Michael Biehn in DL fave THE FAN

Denholm Elliot and Clifton Webb in both versions of THE RAZOR'S EDGE

Tye Sheridan is playing Iceman now.

John Drew Barrymore (John's son and Drew's dad) in While the City Sleeps.

Renée Zellweger in cold mountain 😂

Mr. Furley

Missy Elliot

R398 - there are two "universes" with iceman. The present (Shawn) and past (Tye). I agree with R390. It's totally going to be an Iceman/Pyro story. In the comic, young Iceman was crushing on Angel. I don't see that happening in the next movie. I think Singer will use both actors to tell the past/present story, and they will also exist in the same universe for awhile.

Those who claim there are no Bond fans among the gays have overlooked both me and my old boyfriend. We were more fanatics than mere fans.

And I wholeheartedly support Rosa Klebb as portrayed by Lotte Lenya in From Russia with Love as one of the fantastically implicit gay characters of film.

Just look at her sucker punch Robert Shaw with brass knuckles! And just look at Robert Shaw!

R385 wake in fright is on you tube, some people believe that the Donald Pleasence's character raped him . the scene at 1:22:50

Was Don pleasence Gay IRL?

He always pinged to me...

The character of Alan Stewart (played by RICHARD ANDERSON) in the 1958 film

THE LONG HOT SUMMER

Ennis del Mar in Brokeback Mountain.

[quote]Was Don pleasence Gay IRL?

It doesn't look like it.

He was married 4 times and had 5 daughters.

The little brother in teen witch

Carla tortelli

I'm late to this party, but I assume Tony Randall has been discussed...? Those "bachelor" roles with Rock Hudson were so uncomfortable to watch.

R398 is an idiot. Tye Sheridan is playing Scott Summers/Cyclops in "X-Men: Apocalypse." R403 should have caught that.

r411 I don't get it, she is obsessed with men, has about six kids, loves her ex-husband, has a couple of relationships with men throughout the series,

R414:

She can't keep a man because she wasn't into it.

The kids were due to her pathetic Catholicism.

She only loved that hockey player because he was the other half of the lavender arrangement and enjoyed letting her be the top...

Ennis del Mar? No he -explicitly- sodomized a man on screen honey

I don't see it with Carla.

Now if you said Cliff and Norm...

Sarcasm is lost on r413...

Sarcasm is lost on r416

Judy Bernly

Thanks R413. R403, Bobby Drake also had a crush on Scott Summers in one of the titles (can't recall which book or timeline, sorry).

In X2 Bobby's pivotal scene involved sitting down with his white-bread suburban parents to tell them about his Ice Mutation. On MOVIECLIPS and in some DVD boxes, the scene is called 'Bobby Comes Out'. It wasn't at all a subtle parallel. Also, note Pyro's unwelcome presence in the family living room, where he 'flames up' his lighter repeatedly as a 'f*ck you' to the Fam while Bobby comes out. Bryan Singer just dngaf.

Arthur Malet in THE VANISHING

Otho in Beetlejuice. Most of the posts on DL are from guys like him.

Fern Mayo/Vilette in 'Jawbreaker'.

Montgomery Clift in Red River

r425 Do you think the dude he famously compares guns with is also supposed to be gay? I know the homoerotic subtext of that scene has been mentioned forever. The men in Hawks movies never seem to be genuinely interested in women sexually. And of course the women mostly act like "one of the guys".

Otho wasn't implicitly gay, R423, Otho was flames-can-be-seen-from-space gay.

Maybe, R426

Was Otho the portly interior designer?

That would still be implicit, R427. 'Implicit' just means that no overt references are made to the character's sexuality and that they are not explicitly shown to be in a same-sex relationship.

There's room for ambiguous relationships, of course. But nothing is ever stated out loud.

The despicable villain in THE PHENIX CITY STORY isn't so much implied to be gay, rather it's insinuated in the way he leers at the teenage son of an acquaintance. It's a very moralistic film and this was clearly used to show the villain in an even more negative light.

In Edward Dmytryck's CROSSFIRE, the victim of a brutal killing is changed from gay in the book to jewish in the film. So the motivation goes from homophobia to anti-semitism. If you switch the themes/characters back to the original material then Robert Ryan's character is also gay. The first of three complex gay characters Ryan played, after those he played in Sam Fuller's HOUSE OF BAMBOO and Ustinov's BILLY BUDD.

Mercedes McCambridge in anything- even when just doing the voice of Pazuzu.

The novel version of "Picnic at Hanging Rock" delves even more into Michael and Albert's friendship and it's quite apparent there's a deep attraction buried there.

And the mean teacher who runs and hides rather than stop the girls from almost tearing the found girl apart suffers a terrible fate.

[quote]wake in fright is on you tube, some people believe that the Donald Pleasence's character raped him .

Baby, I just watched that clip and judging by the eye contact and sexual tension before the lights go out that was NO rape....just a common as dirt example of a "straight" guy who lets his tipsy horniness get the better of him only to be overcome with guilt and shame the following morning. Of course, blaming the "predatory" gay for taking advantage of him.

WW for r436

R433, you're forgetting "Lonelyhearts" where Ryan sadomasochistically tortured Montgomery Clift, the alpha raping the beta (psychologically).

[quote]you're forgetting "Lonelyhearts" where Ryan sadomasochistically tortured Montgomery Clift, the alpha raping the beta (psychologically).

Sounds hot, can I find it on Netflix?

R430, "implicit" doesn't mean "flames with the burning power of 10,000 suns but not actually shown sucking cock", it means "not plainly expressed" to use the dictionary definition.

Or "your granny wouldn't see the gay".

Skeeter from "The Help." She just didn't belong down in Mississippi. I bet when she went to New York, she started lezzing out the moment she stepped into 1960s Greenwich Village.

Pazuzu from The Exorcist

R441 Her mother thought she was a lesbian, she even asked her in the film.

The crippled boy that Ellen lets drown in LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN.

Kenya on RHOA

R442, again, Mercedes McCambridge.

Private Gould of SAINTS AND SOLDIERS refuses to share with his comrades as they're all telling about various sexual escapades. Presumably he either has nothing to tell, or he's the only member of the company that hasn't ever been with a woman.

He also had that desperate affection for Deacon, despite their difference of opinion when it came to faith.

Jar Jar Binks.

There's a lovely, quiet scene in Edward Dmytryk's TILL THE END OF TIME (about GIs coming home from WW2 and struggling to readjust to civilian life) when Robert Mitchum, at possibly his most beautiful, goes to his friend's parent's house to borrow some money from him. It takes place in the garage outside to avoid the parents, so it's very quiet and intimate seeming. The friend is played by Guy Madison who was even more gorgeous. He says to Mitchum that he looks rough and Mitchum replies that he (the friend) looks "cute". He obviously intended a different meaning, but the privacy of the scene, the whispering, the intimacy of the pact, etc, makes it seem quite erotic.

Here are some great pictures of the gorgeous Guy Madison:

Long thread but somebody mentioned "A Separate Peace," right?

In the EXplicitly gay version of "The Exorcist" the demon Pizzazzu is voiced by Paul Lynde and proceeds to redecorate Chris O'Neil's house, give her and Regan makeovers and flirt like mad with hunky Father Karras, all while delivering an endless stream of bitchy one liners.

Harry Anderson on Night Court

I doubt anyone here has seen it or even heard of it, but Martin Kosleck and Milburn Stone are so obviously gay in the 1945 horror flick The Frozen Ghost that it's really not even implicit.

One of the most bizarre and extraordinary examples of this - and unique among all other examples, I think, in that it isn't evasive in leaving it merely to implication - is Benigno (played brilliantly by Javier Camara) in Pedro Almodovar's TALK TO HER. He seems so clearly to be gay that everyone in the film assumes he is. In fact, he seems to be the only one who is unaware of the fact that he is gay. He's a nurse who cares full time for a female patient in a coma. I don't want to ruin it for anyone who hasn't seen the film, but something occurs later on in the film that is completely unexpected and which has tragic repercussions.

He develops a very close friendship with a man whose partner is also in a coma in the same hospital and there's an extremely moving and beautiful scene near the very end where they both touch hands on a pane of glass that separates them. Somewhere along the way in his life he got completely fucked up and that scene is the closest Benigno comes to an emotional relationship with another man. But it's never acknowledged that he's gay. You're just aware that he is. It's an incredible film. Perhaps Almodovar's best (along with ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER).

Billy Elliot.

I thought it was established at his Swan Lake debut that billy was fucking the trans gal from the old neighborhood?

William Hurt's character in A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE.

Frank SInatra as Maggio in FROM HERE TO ETERNITY.

Edward "Hutch" Hutchins in ROSEMARY'S BABY.

r456 I thought it was implied that the trans gal was shtupping the black dude sitting next to her in the final scene? They definitely seemed to be there together.

Could be

Tony in the original ESCAPE TO WITCH MOUNTAIN and RETURN FROM WITCH MOUNTAIN. Especially RETURN FROM WITCH MOUNTAIN. Girlfriend was on fire in RETURN...

Eric Forman on That 70s Show.

#GiveCaptainAmericaABoyfriend Is trending on Twitter. Almost everyone thinks he should be with Bucky except for the homophobes.

Yeah, I finally saw the latest "Captain America" movie, and yet again he acts all awkward around attractive women, and turns the whole fucking world upside down for the love of another man.

It took the mainstream long enough to catch on!

Muriel's sister, Joanie, in Muriel's Wedding. The female store detective pings too.

Sonja Morgan on RHONY

Jerome Kern (Robert Walker) and Jim Hessler (Van Heflin) in "Till the Clouds Roll By."

Charles (Ben Archibek) in NIGHT MOVES (1975). There's one remark by Gene Hackman about him having "faggot friends" and one of the film's most famous lines about Eric Rohmer's films being "kind of like watching paint dry" is apparently intended as a thinly veiled homophobic jab at Charles, but beyond that it's heavily implied by the way the character is dressed.

Kirk Douglas and Dewey Martin's mutual devotion for each other as "saddle pals" in "The Big Sky" (1952), yet another movie about male camaraderie directed by Howard Hawks. As Vito Russo points out, in his "The Celluloid Closet, A History of Gays in Film," Martin keeps giving Douglas the "longing look," which Douglas sometimes returns. Despite a local native chief's daughter, who supposedly captures Martin's heart, the main emotional bond in the film is between the two male characters. Since it was made in 1952, nothing further could be shown, though one can only wonder about the implications of two men wandering and camping and sleeping near each other, as they cross the frontier.

Johnny in [italic]Song of the South[/italic] secretly (but not so subtly) craved black cock.

Bagheera!

Seth Gecko (Clooney) in FROM DUSK TIL DAWN (1996, dir. Tarantino). Most Clooney characters can have very strong gay subtextual readings, but Seth is an especially interesting example, as his disdaining of women as sexual objects is very overt, figuratively and literally.

When the characters arrive at the topless bar 'The Titty Twister' for the final act, Seth is more excited to fight patrons, get his drink on and close his massive heist deal than to get dances from the naked beauties surrounding him. He is not even altogether interested by Satanico (Salma Hayek), the exotic jewel of the club and leader of these dancing girls (by contrast, his perverted & addled brother does not even blink once during her performance). Seth miserably quips in a later scene that this may be because he 'already has a wife', but it is unclear whether he's joking or not. That said, the imagery used in the last act does somewhat undermine the Gay Seth idea if you take vampires to be sexual creatures. Seth fights off this army of girls when they turn Vamp, and his chosen weapon is a wooden drill he sharpens himself.

In an earlier scene, his seeming empathy with one of his hostages, lapsed preacher Jacob (Harvey Keitel) over his tragically deceased wife lends further credence to the theory that Seth is or was (unhappily?) married to a woman once, but this is never revealed and is not alluded to again. It's agreed among most Tarantino fans that Seth had likely been in one serious relationship with a lady, but that he may have viewed it as a mistake or a burden by the time the film takes place. He shows no sexual interest in other women he encounters over the course of the film, even though his 'cheating' would never be discovered as his 'wife' he mentions is nowhere to be seen (she is presumed by fans to be either missing/dead, estranged, or a fabrication). Is Seth a faithful husband/widower? Jaded by a sexless marriage or an ugly divorce? Or...?

Seth also curiously turns down the offer to ride off into the sunset with the nubile and headstrong Kate (Juliette Lewis) at the end of the movie, subverting the usual heist cliché. One could assume this seemingly protective gesture from the usually selfish Seth issues from guilt over kidnapping and fatally endangering Kate's family (and out of concern for her safety), but for the cold and dismissive tone Seth uses. From that, one gets the impression he'd be more irritated than titillated by robbing banks alongside a beautiful, virginal 18-year-old preacher's daughter; you know, the fantasy of many a straight man (although some readings have it that Seth simply views her as too young, and that he is disgusted by the idea of a grown man seducing her as his brother had wanted to do). Sadly, the new tv series fucked up this character dynamic set up by Tarantino, instead giving Seth and Kate a boring and predictable teen-drama will-they-won't-they relationship.

Is the Big Sky duo?

I remember in one of my comm classes at Nyu we were discussing subtext in Disney movies, and someone claimed Scar in Lion King is gay.

Leon Rom (Christoph Waltz) in The Legend of Tarzan; they cut the gay kiss, so what was explicit is now implicit.

The male characters in Howard Hughes' "The Outlaw"

There is plainly a love triangle among Doc Holliday and Pat Garrett, with Billy the Kid coming between them.

Pat is so thrilled to see Doc again, calls him "my best friend" several times, and is devastated when Billy comes to town and catches Doc's eye.

The interplay and flirting between Doc and Billy is palpable, reaching into each other's pockets, touching, lighting cigs...

Although the voluptuous Jane Russell is on display and the supposed love interest (both Doc and Billy are implied to have slept with her) in a barely concealed reality the boys only have eyes for each other.

Needless to say Pat's jealousy ends things badly, but I'll let you watch to find out how it all works out. There are some really good copies out there (TCM has one) but beware of the public domain versions.

Jane 's famous pose

Adam Sandler and Damon Wayans were ex-lovers in Bulletproof (1996)

There is no other explanation for their behavior and without it the picture makes no sense. All they needed was one line like "remember what we had in High school..." And not another line would need to be changed or added.

I don't recommend seeing out this mobie but if you come across it, it's not bad and just imagining that they are exes makes the whole thing that much more enjoyable.

R158

SARAH GILBERT in ANY & EVERYTHING; otherwise, that's like saying BILL COSBY 'played black'

Oliver Reed in OLIVER! He was so self-loathing. That explains his violence and hatred towards women. Think about it. Rough trade all the way, brah.

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Norman Page in "Peyton Place".

Kathleen Freeman in THE BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL.

I'm watching "The Day After Tomorrow" - the character played by Dash Mihok risks his life to help his secret fuck buddy (Dennis Quaid) find his son in NY.

Of course Scar was gay! Who didn't figure that one out?

Richard Barthemless and Buddy Rogers in 'Wings' 1927. The death scene when they embrace is so touching, and there is an ambiguity as to the true nature of their friendship.

Katherine Hepburn's male secretary in Woman of the Year 1942, who annoys Spencer Tracey the whole movie. The whole film, arguably is about role reversal and sexual ambiguity, until the end, when Hepburn becomes the submissive wife and the natural order is restored. Gerald being hit over the head with a champagne botle and shoved down the steps is symbolic of all the gender swap being put right, and tracey recovering his masculine role.

The gay subtext in Gilda I think comes from the scene where George Macready shows Glenn Ford his cane with a blade at the end of it. He tells him that it is his 'little friend' and he always is loyal, and something about how he likes all his little friends to be loyal. Can't recall the exact dialogue, but you get the idea, very fey and phallic!

Apparently the author Don Birnam, in The Lost Weekend was initially bisexual, which was the cause of his alcoholism, but obviously they cut it out, like they did with Crossfire. Imagine how more interesting the film would have been if it had followed the book?

Was George Sanders gay?

Addison De Witt in All About Eve is I think definitely meant to be gay. His bitchiness and apparent lack of sexual interest in women, even at the party with Monroe, he seems very disinterested telling her to go and flirt with producers etc

Btw I think AAE is one of the most overrated movies ever. It doesn't hold up as well as some classics do.

r489 I don't think he was. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that I can find (or even much suggestion) that he was gay and certainly some evidence that he was heterosexual, but I always thought his suicide note could only have been written by a gay man.

[R499] His sucide note is very intruiging. I mean do people really kill themselves because they are 'bored'? did he suffer from depression? The note sounds like something Addison de Witt would write, very bitter, he calls the world a 'sweet cesspool' some truth perhaps, but very strong nonetheless. Does anyone know anymore about him?

Tibby Schlegel in HOWARDS END. Say that a few times aloud...

R484 the Montague/Capulet beef in Luhrmann's ROMEO + JULIET comes off homoerotically. Benvolio (Dash) & Tybalt (John Leguizamo) had palpable sexual tension.

Tom Robinson in "Tea and Sympathy".

[quote]Farley Granger and John Dall in Rope

And James Stewart.

Philip Seymour Hoffman and his young charge (possibly victim) in DOUBT.

My bodyguard.

Funny you should mention THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, R484. I always thought Jake Gyllenhaal's two buddies played by Arjay Smith and Austin Nichols seemed like they were a couple. Especially near the end of the film.

[quote][Addison deWitt] His bitchiness and apparent lack of sexual interest in women, even at the party with Monroe, he seems very disinterested telling her to go and flirt with producers etc

According to Miss Caswell, they met when Addison made a pass at her. You really think that he wanted her to beard fro him ? In real life, Sanders had quite a few women though anyone could see how he would come across as effete, gay.

Josh from Clueless.

Michael J. Pollard as C.W. Moss in BONNIE & CLYDE

Clyde in Bonnie and Clyde, for that matter...!

r501 Sceptical about the implicitly part.

Some of you don't understand the term implicit

In CLUELESS, Josh is the Paul Rudd character - the one who Cher ends up with - not Christian the cakeboy.

Spot-on, R444.

r217 Yes! If only we saw the R-rated scenes of Sam Neill plowing Nivola's fine ass.

Nobody said me? Nick the bartender sure had my number. Ah, it's a wonderful life.

Nobody said me? Nick the bartender sure had my number. Ah, it's a wonderful life.