Carole King Appreciation Thread

I love Cynthia Weil and Barry Mann in this show.

They were HUGE songwriters, but I love how they talk about the testing for the Broadway show Beautiful. It was supposed to be about how they and Goffin and King were rivals, but the test audiences were all about, "Where is Tapestry?"

They say: "We realized that we were Fed and Ethel and Carole and Gerry were Lucy and Desi."

That is very cool that they would have that kind of sense of humor about it.

she made the Earth. Move. Under my feet!

She seems really, really nice. But she always scored dick out of her league, which always leads to heartache.

I think the introduction of this song is some of the prettiest music ever.

This is a great short interview with her. He asks all the right questions.

She sure made some poor decisions when it came to men. Nice to see her daughter was good natured about it.

Her daughter is really beautiful and seems to have a wonderful sense of humor.

"Davy Jones was the perfect height for a 6 year old."

She's supposedly a prickly interview, and had HIDEOUS taste in men, and that's about all that's wrong with the lady.

Rogers and Hammerstein, Lennon and McCartney, Barry and Greenwich, Jagger and Richards, Mann and Weil. And you could DEFINITELY make a case for Goffin and King besting them all.

How can anyone hate Stevie?

Her autobiography makes me think she is very nice, but never got over being the "ugly" girl.

She devoted her life (and money) to scoring younger and younger hotter dick.

I admire that.

Some of us had looks AND talent.

R11 You were definitely more attractive. I also think you wrote much better lyrics. And I think you are now not given the regard you are are due.

But when you compare Carole's collection of songs to yours, you really come up short for songs that made a huge mark on our culture.

She has a really big nose.

R13 And you have a really small penis.

How many songs have had such amazing powerhouses of music on one song?

Carole King, James Taylor, and Joni Mitchell.

[quote]Some of us had looks AND talent.—Carly, chanteuse

But for some reason Americans seem averse to taking out teeth when people have too many or they're too large for their mouths. Apparently it's because they can charge more cos it takes longer.

I was lucky enough to see her with James Taylor in 2010 on their Troubadour tour in 2010. She was 68 at the time. She is very short, probably around 5'2", and she came out wearing these boots with at least 4 inch heels. She was dancing around, standing up playing piano...totally full of energy. It was amazing. She has a very endearing quality about her. And she is an extraordinary pianist.

Love all her songs, and glad that she seems so happy now. Gerry Goffin, however, had a very sad life.

R16 Anyone who doesn't think Carly Simon in the 70s was beautiful is CRAZY.

She was hot to death.

Oops! I meant WASN'T beautiful.

Thanks, hun.

Carly, go have "special bonding time" with Ben.

What's your take on Julia Roberts, R18?

R22 Julia Roberts is an insufferable cunt, but she was a HUGE movie star known of her beauty. So comparing her to Carly is hardly an insult.

For someone with a lot of talent, Carly Simon was very beautiful:

R19, you had it right in R18.

I never got around to buying HELLO, BIG MAN until recently, R24, and I was surprised to find so many good songs on it. But this is Carole's thread, so I'll just say "Orpheus." Oh, and the title song.

This thread is about me now.

R26 Orpheus is a GREAT song.

Of course, the title song is total BS, as Carly later admitted. Her parents had a horrible marriage. Her mother had a college student half her age live in their house and fuck her, while her husband sat downstairs and drunk himself into a stupor.

She released a bunch of her demos a few years ago. They're worth checking out.

I'm glad Joni isn't as prominent on "Will You Love Me Tomorrow?" as Mick Jagger is on ... you know.

Did you read her autobiography, R28? Her mother was awful. I guess we wouldn't have had "That's the Way I've Always Heard It Should Be" otherwise, though.

R29 Carole KIng's demos were so polished because she not only wrote the songs but did all the arrangements. There wasn't much left for the singer to do.

R31 Carly Simon seems to think her mother was awful as she includes accusations that her mother was a whore who killed her father in the book.

Do you know otherwise, r33?

Carly Simon was neither beautiful or particularly talented. She had good hair and a beautiful husband.

CAROLE KING, YOU WHORES.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT CAROLE FUCKING KING.

No more talking about Carly "I only have a career because I sucked a lot of old man cock and had a father in publishing" Simon.

Yes, I DID do background vocals on "Attitude Dancing," back when I didn't know any better.

Twat was HORRIBLE to my buddy J.T., so I haven't even spoken her name since their divorce.

Oy. Can we get back to ME now, please?

R36, no one will even like you tomorrow.

Attitude Dancing was such a bad song.

It shows what a nice person Carole is to do background vocals on it.

For the Carly chatters

Why Carole is a pop music goddess:

Why Carole is a pop music goddess:

YES R42!

That was FLAWLESS!

Gorgeous

Two months later and that still brings me to tears. A lovely, lovely moment.

R44, you're being an unfunny asshole.

There's now a Carly thread. Can you not take your Carly chat there?

Or do you have to just be the turd in the punchbowl?

I wish Grace of My Heart had been just a Carole King bio-pic

Her nose has it's own zip code and Facebook page.

[quote]I wish Grace of My Heart had been just a Carole King bio-pic

As opposed to what, R47?

That mess of mixing Grace Slick and others into the story.

Well, tbh, r50, it wasn't the Carole King story any more than Carole King married Brian Wilson.

Grace of My Heart would have been more interesting if it had followed Carole's real life, married to a drug addict who beat her.

I didn't realize Carole was in an abusive marriage. Very sad.

Jazz Man -- take my blues away

She has G's bad perm from that slasher movie she was nominated for.

The MusiCares tribute to Carole King was a great night. The usual suspects, Gloria Estefan and James Taylor did their familiar thing and songs. Pink, Lady Gaga and the legends from Twenty Feet From Stardom stole the night. Martina McBride and Leann Rimes with Steven Tyler are standouts too. No Aretha, Alicia Keys sings Natural Woman. The sound is a bit out of synch and the room was lazy but there is a good band and some great performances. Way Over Yonder by Merry Clayton, Darlene Love and Lisa Fischer show just how gospel that song is. Gaga sounds fantastic and is heartfelt but like always is a bit self indulgent. Carole and James Taylor finish the night.

Who is this song about? Elton John being married to a woman and being gay? Or Elton getting a huge ego in the 1970s?

She's a brilliant talent when it comes to songwriting and have a nice enough voice too. She seems very insecure because she's plain, which a singing star isn't really "allowed" to be. Which is a fucking shame.

"has a nice enough voice too"

[quote]Rogers and Hammerstein, Lennon and McCartney, Barry and Greenwich, Jagger and Richards, Mann and Weil. And you could DEFINITELY make a case for Goffin and King besting them all.

Forgetting someone?

[quote]They say: "We realized that we were Fred and Ethel and Carole and Gerry were Lucy and Desi."

Did Cynthia ever say she'd had sufficient?