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And yes I'm fat

I heard the food is awful. I'm sorry OP. Maybe that's changed. But that was the story, from years ago.

If you are fat don't go to a buffet.

It completely kills other people's appetite.

Wicked Spoon, the buffet at Cosmopolitan, is my favorite.

Bellagio and Wynn are good. The Spice Market Buffet at Planet Hollywood used to be the best, but that was before the hotel became Planet Hollywood. I imagine it's not as good now.

My parents always stay at Cesars Palace and constantly rave about the buffets there.

Go once around the garden for me, OP!

Bacchanal at Caesars Wicket Spoon at the Cosmo Buffet at the Wynn

These three are considered the top, and are the most expensive as well.

I also like the buffet at the Paris, and it's cheaper than the top 3.

Gamblers are given free passes and VIP service if their play is rated good enough. The more money you risk and the longer you play, the better you are rated. The casinos keep track of your gambling with players card that you put into slot machines or show when you sit down at the tables.

Good luck.

OP, How would you define a good buffet? Are you looking to try small portions of many different cuisines and very rich deserts, artistically presented in individual containers? If so the Cosmopolitan and the Wynn might be worth it for you. Ceasars Palace offers the freshest tasting orange juice I've ever had but they focus on offering fewer choices rather than countless dishes that might be sitting for hours.

Personally unless you like to eat a huge amount of protein, like several different kinds of shellfish, I don't think buffets are worth the price. Smaller casino coffee shops still offer top quality steak and prime rib specials for 1/3 the price. Red Rock Casino on West Charleston is located near the spectacular Valley of Fire where car commercials are often filmed. Consider hiking along the mountain trails to work up an appetite. Check out their diner specials and compare it to their buffet. They will let you look at the choices before paying if you ask politely and are well dressed. Because Red Rock is located in the upscale community of Summerlin where there's lots of new and very popular restaurants their buffet is of higher quality. When you sign up for their slot club ask about their special promotions.

Re value, Orleans is only a couple miles South of where I live and my local Smiths' Grocery Store offers 1/2 price coupons for their buffet. They specialize in custom made omelettes for breakfast. Also they don't make you leave when they put out the lunch choices. They're known for their beef ribs and personally carved roast beef. Some like their shellfish. Still I rarely indulge.

Stay away from The Cheetah

The M Resort has a great buffet --it's a little off the beaten track, but worth the trip.

Breakfast Buffett at Paris Las Vegas. Go there every time I'm there. Been to the lunch buffet there and while it was good, I preferred the breakfast (and if you time it just right, you can catch the end of breakfast and just blend on in to lunch).

You know, most strip clubs have a free buffet with cost of admission and two drink minimum.

It should be done for the hell of it but most of the high priced buffets aren't worth it. You can get a sit down meal at one of the restaurants for about the same price. That said, CP and Wicket Spoon at Cosmo constantly rate the highest. Wynn has had a remodel and they were also highly rated.

As others have said, the best buffets are those at Caesar's Palace, the Wynn, and the Cosmopolitan. Paris is good too but definitely a couple of steps down.

My tip would be to try not to go at peak times when there will be long lines. Plan to have a late lunch and you can save yourself a 45 minute wait.

When are you going, OP?

Wow that buffet at the Cosmopolitan must be really good. I have heard nothing but raves about it which seems to jibe with most of the recommendations here.

R16, Wicked Spoon has artfully arranged mini servings in cute little dishes, and they only put out a limited quantity so the food stays much fresher. They mac & cheese bar offers truffle and lobster toppings. I don't care for rich food, not really enthused at trying a wide variety of ethnic dishes as I'd rather go to an individual ethnic restaurant and get a coordinated meal. Still the arrangement of the entire buffet is a far cry from the frozen vegetable and canned fruit offerings fraus with fanny packs indulge in. The deserts are especially creative and extremely visually appealing. As I said earlier most buffets will let you take a quick look at the selections before you wait in line to pay.

[quote]and if you time it just right, you can catch the end of breakfast and just blend on in to lunch).

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Unless you're planning to eat your weight in food, buffets seem like a waste of money.

Not if you do the 3 meal blending as previously described, R19.

R19, R20, Only a few buffets allow you to pay for breakfast and stay through lunch or dinner offerings. Some close the entire area for cleanup. Best to ask in advance.

I remember a thread in here that warned us away from buffets -- it said it used leftovers covered in sauce.

Just for clarification - the scenic area west of Las Vegas where car commercials are filmed, near Red Rock Casino, is called Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area. There is also Valley of Fire State Park, but that is about 35 miles east of Las Vegas, off of Interstate 15.

My boyfriend and I did the breakfast into lunch shift at the Bellagio once. It was fun. We basically didn't eat for the rest of the day. All you have to do is look for when they start serving lunch and show up a few minutes early.

Thank you for all the replies. Going in june

"...used leftovers covered in sauce."

I've described some sexual encounters this way.

I don't know about the best, but Circus Circus' breakfast buffet would make prisoners riot. Seriously, it's the most disgusting 30 running feet of swill you can imagine.

I'd be afraid to breathe the air in Circus Circus, let alone eat something there.

I think some casinos offer an "all-day" buffet pass that lets you come back as often as you want within the same day.

Agree about the horrid conditions of Circus Circus, but their steakhouse is excellent.

Any more tips/recommendations?

[quote]I think some casinos offer an "all-day" buffet pass that lets you come back as often as you want within the same day.

So I didn't have to sit there all through breakfast, lunch and dinner?

I love to eat as much or more than most people but god how much do you people really eat?

Eating both breakfast and lunch at the same time?

I thought I was a pig but I have nothing on you.

R30 YES!!!! I wanted to post that myself, but I thought I would get shredded. I ate in the steakhouse in Circus Circus about 8 yrs ago, and as someone who has dined in all the great ones, from Gene and Georgetti in Chicago, to the great ones in NY, the steakhouse in Circus Circus was in my top five. And I grew up on Ruth's Chris in New Orleans when it was just Chris Steak House before Ruth Fertel bought it from Chris.

Now, WHY it manages to be so good and have such excellent service while being housed in that nightmare of a hotel----that's a whole other mystery.

I thought Rio had the best buffet.

[quote]Eating both breakfast and lunch at the same time?

Have you never heard of brunch? God, I miss brunch.

R33, I would only select a few things from the breakfast buffet like fruit and nuts with a cheese blintz and then have a portion of meat and cooked vegetables for lunch.

R35, When the Rio 1st opened it had a fab rep but quickly went downhill once it became popular. I got stuck going there because a friend from out of town heard it was good. They had tuna fish sushi; that's right canned tuna in a sushi roll. Even the lemon meringue pie tasted like it had been sitting too long.

Now if you love shellfish they do have a newer seafood buffet but unless you eat huge portions of food I can't see how it would be worth it. There are so many restaurants where you would get a very high quality meal in a luxurious surrounding for less money.

I would skip breakfast because you can't really go wrong with bacon and eggs. There are little extras here and there but all are pretty much the same. At lunch and dinner are where the buffets separate the men from the boys. The top offerings give you great dishes that are on par with their restaurants. Some, like Bellagio and Wynn offer deserts that cost much more when ordering a la carte in the restaurants. It's fun and you should do at least one buffet when visiting Vegas.

The appeal of Vegas escapes me. I've been once and don't have much of a desire to go back, many other places I'd rather go on vacation.

Just seems like it is only fun for trashy straight people.

[quote]Just seems like it is only fun for trashy straight people.

It seems many venues are starting to look at it that way -- the Club 33 in Disneyland took out its buffet and changed it into a French Laundry style tasting menu after people started sharing passes into the Club with all their friends and the seafood and dessert bars turned into wrecks from all the people pouncing on them and cleaning them out.

The price for the passes went up as well and severe limits placed on who can use them.

The BACCHANAL BUFFET is considered the best buffet in Las Vegas - I believe they also have a seafood upgrade you can purchase that gives you access to a special section - If you want to eat that's where I would go

Yelpers like the Bacchanal.

Most of them, anyway.

The wait time seems horrendous, as does the two-hour table limit.

The Sterling Brunch is the Brigadoon of Brunches that arises for 5 hours every week on Sundays.

Sell a child, have a great meal...

The Bacchanal Buffet at Caesars, the Buffet at Bellagio and the one at the M are the only ones I've tried that I'd recommend.

For the price of any of them, you could get a meal in a good restaurant, so it's really about the experience.

I haven't gone in a couple of years but The Grand Buffet at MGM was good back then. If your looking for a great restaurant Shibuya's is to die for at MGM.

Buffets are so low class!

Las Vegas is an assault on my sense of taste.

How much do these buffets usually cost for lunch? $20?

More like $45

R48 thinks these places are Golden Corral.

which ones have the best seafood?

R51, again, your best bet on anything is the higher priced buffets. Bacchanal at CP, Wicked Spoon at Cosmo and Buffet at Wynn will be the best.

Why is this all about the buffets so far?

What are the best spas? I love Mandalay Bays spa. Relaxing atmosphere with a nice big steam room and sauna. Love the different temperature soaking tubs as well. It's just too bad that it has been overrun with trolls trying to ogle guys out of their league.

Aria Spa! Biggest in vegas!

Mandarin Oriental is great as is both Wynn and Encore.

I love this thread evolved into spas! I also love spas. What are some best things of Las Vegas?

The town just hasn't been the same since I died.

One hour foot massages in Chinatown for 15 bucks. A great bargain.

Stay @the Bellagio as they have the most amazing buffet! We always stay there and have been there at least 4x over the last 12 years!

Dear OP

Why not..... start your grapefruit and cherry tomato Capri Regime diet in Las Vegas?

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The Cosmoplitan is fab as well but the crowd is mostly under 40...hip & trendy !

The guys, mostly str8, at the Cosmo, wear tight pants and shirts. The eye candy makes the trip to Vegas worth it.

How much is a buffet for dinner? $25? I don't think I want to spend more than $19.99.

Cosmo gets the most incredibly beautiful people, male and female, from around the world. Just amazing. It looks like a world wide model convention.

Bump

[quote]The town just hasn't been the same since I died.

It REALLY hasn't been the same since your museum closed, Lee. That was one of Vegas's "must-sees."

R63, you won't get a good dinner buffet for much less than $45.

I miss when the Mob ran the town -- very safe, cheap rooms, food, and drink.

No children or families.

r9, I thought "Valley of Fire " was north east of the Vegas. Isn't Red Rocks Casino in the North West area of Vegas?

[Bold] OP, GO SEE "KA!" IT'S THE BEST SHOW IN VEGAS!

Valley of Fire State Park is about 35 miles northeast of Vegas, off Interstate 15.

Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area is about 15 - 18 miles or so west of Las Vegas.

I will agree that Cosmopolitan is the best buffet in town. Here is my only (slightly goofy) complaint...

While I appreciate the idea of all of the little dishes and all, they aren't really conducive to going through a buffet line....tiny little frying pans and buckets sliding all over your plate gets annoying.

The food is very good, though,

Just keep in mind, that for probably less that what you are paying for a buffet, you are probably a stone's throw from a great sit-down restaurant with better food, I mean, The Bacchanal is great and all, but its over $50 for a rushed and crowded experience for which you may have to wait an hour in line. In the very same building you can go to Rao (the best Italian meal I have ever had) or Bobby Flay's Mesa (yeah, he's an asshole, but I still have dreams about the Brussels sprouts I had there on Thanksgiving.)

But please, go to a buffet too...it's part of the fun.

If you aren't getting enough info on here, please (I beg of you, please) check out this woman's tours of all the buffets in LV. She's Italian and might be a little insane. In a perfect world, she would be a DL icon.

Have a great time!

I went to r72's posted website.

It made me wonder why buffets were not popular in cities other than Las Vegas. When I was a kid, we had a Swedish smörgåsbord and a Chinese buffet in the neighborhood, but one never sees those anymore.

There are a lot of Asian buffets in the LA area. As well as the chain places like Hometown.

Am I correct to assume that Las Vegas buffets are open 24-7?

The champagne brunch at the Bellaggio is fantastic.

Huge! crab legs, shrimp, prime rib.

The desserts are beautiful! And very delicious. I wanna say it was about $60 bucks? Per person.

Has anyone ever snuck a large empty container under the table to 'fill-up" on buffet leftovers for later or would they send you to Gitmo for committing such a crime.

Incorrect, R75. None of the ones on the strip are open 24 hours.

R72 - that is quite a coincidence - I was watching one of her videos earlier today! She is a bit of a kook, but pretty enjoyable.

And I agree with your advice - anyone visiting Las Vegas should go to a buffet at least once, just for the experience if nothing else.

There are so many incredible restaurants on the strip - one of the best meals I ever had was at Bradley Ogden in Caesars Palace (which is unfortunately gone now).

The confusion over the location of the Valley of Fire is because it's so huge.

Go see MJ the One! Better than Kai

O and Love (and La Reve, for that matter) are better than either of those.

R77, The "eye in the sky" watches everyone very closely and would ask you to immediately leave and even escort you off property if you tried to steal anything. Usually they 1st ask the standard Vegas question if you are a registered hotel guest and/or a high roller at the casino. They always demand that you present you slot club card to prove the latter. That really affects how you will be treated whenever you have a legit complaint about anything or are perceived to be "undesirable."

Yes removing food from the buffet you cannot finish is considered "stealing" and makes you appear to be the kind of person they don't want hanging around their casino. Whether they 86 you for the day, or take your picture, ID, and bar you permanently depends on how you are dressed and respond to their accusations. Yes have seen jerks try to steal food in the cheaper buffet and some get even away with it. Why take the risk? By the way Vegas Police Dept views casinos like all other private businesses and gives them the legal right to do anything they want re barring potential customers; they don't even have to give a reason for their actions. I would always dress better than the other patrons if you wish to be well treated in a casino. Avoid walking near rowdy acquaintances too.

R77 how and hell are you going to do that asshole ....walk down to the buffet with empty containers and fill up on food ...hope you are joking... just a no no cheap fuck! Security cameras and security...why would you take-steal food from the buffet...FAT FUCK I guess!

r82, ANY Las Vegas show is better than a Branson clusterfuck watching a few feral cats fuck down at the gas station in Flyoverlandia.

Bacchanal throws you out after two hours -- add to that the long lines at the best food stations, there isn't really time to eat $45 dollars worth of lunch unless one eats nothing but seafood and meat.

R77. Michael Moore and Kirstie Alley at table 7c.

These all-you-can eat buffets must lose a ton of money since people take the opportunity to eat a lot of food at these places. In Vegas, I can understand that hotels probably expect a financial loss for these restaurants since it's worth keeping the gamblers onsite rather than having them leave to go offsite to eat.

R88, Actually they don't lose a ton of money because casinos buy food in mass quantity and the cheaper ones often purchase it pre-prepared. Combined with the number of huge private parties, some just for high rollers, on-site daily business meetings that include meals, and employee included food that's a huge number of people to feed. That's another reason you can still get relatively cheap but good quality steak and prime rib meals in off-strip coffee shops in Vegas. Personally if you don't care about the atmosphere I think this is a far better value.

We've done threads on DL for those who want to eat in a luxurious atmosphere or who dislike mass produced meals. Tomorrow night my weekly wine tasting club ($50 for two people for 1 year) will be holding their event at Palms Place Condominiums' Cafe 6, combining it with local realtors and individual tours, food, and music around the private pool outside the restaurant's 6th floor.

[quote]It made me wonder why buffets were not popular in cities other than Las Vegas.

I'd like to hope it is because people have better taste. Unless you just want to be gluttonous, you are always way better off ordering a nice meal at a restaurant for the same price you would pay for these buffets. Buffets are a bunch of cheapish ingredients cooked easily in bulk, meant to appeal to people just because you can get a lot of mediocre food.

Smörgåsbord was fun! I miss that.

Don't forget to come see my new show, where I pay tribute to my late husband, at Caesar's Palace!!!

I call it, "Celine Dion: For Crying Out Loud!!"

Are there vegan options at these buffets?

R93, Vegas has a significant vegan community which promotes a number of completely vegan restaurants, like the Red Velvet Cafe, and others with vegan selections. Most purists will tell you that there's no guarantee that meat grease hasn't been completely cleaned off of all cooking equipment used to prepare and cook vegan dishes. If you're not that strict all buffets include vegan entrees besides the salad and fresh fruit bar. The hipper places include vegetarian, all vegetable, and vegan choices in several different cuisines such as Mid Eastern, Indian, Asian, and Italian. However it would be difficult to get a list of all ingredients if you're on a very restricted diet.

Personally I would go to the Cosmopolitan and order the vegan burger at the Hamburger joint. It's made in house from oatmeal and vegetables and really tasty. Ironically it's one of the most popular choices on the menu; waiters say customers have come back repeatedly for just that choice.

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R95, Would you like a list of the most popular vegan restaurants in Vegas? Chef Mayra has a Caribbean vegan restaurant and catering service. She made a spectacular Himalayan curry for a potluck vegan Thanksgiving with over 100 people. There are also very new upscale vegan restaurants in the Arts District and in Downtown East. Though not a vegan I enjoy trying different cuisines. There's multiple vegan Chinese and Asian places in China Town near where I live. Some use tofu or seitan as well as strictly vegetable dishes.

Wynn himself is a vegan so it's no surprise that all his restaurants in Wynncore have vegan options.

How do you know someone is a vegan?

They'll remind you every five minutes.

I would like to try a vegan buffet. I don't eat crab legs.

Didn't bother to read anybody else's recommendation, so here's mine:

Best elegant, Sunday champagne brunch buffet: Bellagio. There really is no competition.

For mere scale: Rio has the most varied and eclectic buffet. It's pretty awesome.

For simplicity: my favorite: Treasure Island. fewer and simpler choices, but man-o-man really well done. The ribs alone is worth the price of the meal. Also, the dining room itself isn't a massive cafeteria cavern. You feel like you're in a small restaurant.

[🍋]Has anyone ever snuck a large empty container under the table to 'fill-up" on buffet leftovers for later or would they send you to Gitmo for committing such a crime.

I always carry a large purse lined with Saran Wrap. As long as you're discreet and don't put anything too liquid in it, like soup (made that mistake once), then you should be okay. The best things to take are rolls, steak, roast beef, anything from the craving station, crab legs, salmon, sushi, sashimi, and all the desserts in those cute reusable collectible glass dishes and little pots and pans. I have quite a collection now.

r101 is 88 years old.

I know this because my Mom's friends do this when we go out with them.

I love you, trashy R101.

r82 La Reve at The Wynn is one of the most beautiful shows I've ever seen. One of the performers in the production is gay and goes to my gym. He's so hot and very friendly. La Reve is a must see production and The Wynn Hotel is stunning.

Go somewhere decent like BARRYMORE'S. Wonderful food !!

Ha@R98 But so true

[quote]I always carry a large purse lined with Saran Wrap. As long as you're discreet and don't put anything too liquid in it, like soup (made that mistake once), then you should be okay.

I ask for extra slices of rare steak and take them home in my own little oven.

Anyone who tells anyone to eat at the Rio buffet is either certifiable or had taste buds surgically removed.

1. It's hideously expensive for the quality of food

2. It's crowded and the amount of food causes seemingly sane people to go a little nuts

3. Nothing you get there is even the slightest bit better than a Golden Corral or Hometown Buffet

The good points?

1. It's amazing people watching

2. You can get coupons easily

3. It is sort of amazing how much crap there is there....it's like a football field-sized row of steamer trays

The Wynn is hands down the best buffet.

Rio used to be great before the introduction of the high end buffets and then the quality dropped substantially. There's still some name value but it doesn't even match the prices. I don't think it's even all that fun to people watch there.

Highest end buffet is probably Bally's Sterling Brunch on Sunday but I also like Country Club Jazz Sunday at Wynn, though not a conventional buffet.

The Wynn is a stunningly beautiful hotel, for sure.

That carousel is breathtaking.

The stores are ridiculously exclusive. It has the only Hermès store I saw in Vegas.

Meh to the supposed beauty of The Wynn. Expensive plus gaudy doesn't equal sophistication. It doesn't begin to compare to the better hotels in real cities. It's classy by Vegas standards and absolutely nothing else (though I get that's all the more it has to be). The staff is great, though.

Because Vegas isn't a real city?

The Aria is beautiful as well.

Although to a real traveler like you, R112, it might not be much either.

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R109

Agreed. I've stayed there; quite nice !

Why do blacks love crab legs so mich? That's all they aet at buffet

R113 - Incorporated Vegas is a city, but the Strip (which I guess is what I should have said) is not. It's its own little fantasyland.

I much prefer the Aria to the Wynn.

And I'm not really a snob. I go to Vegas probably about every 12-18 months. I love the kitschiness of it all. It's fantastically decadent and ridiculous. I just get irked when people try to pretend that something on the Strip is anything BUT kitsch. Expensive kitsch is still kitsch. Nothing wrong with that.

There's something uncomfortable about the Wynn, both the buffet and the general area. I can't quite put my finger on it. Well, the buffet seating area is sort of oddly shaped and the chairs are...uncomfortable. Also, while I was gambling (trust me I am a petty slot jockey low-roller supreme) it felt like security was watching me the while time, and whenever I would get up from a machine, someone would come with a cloth and wipe it down. I mean, I appreciate things being clean and all, but that place is like gambling at my Nana's house .

No, I'm not a dirty person.

It's ten times more fun to just put a twenty into a machine at LeBayou downtown and have three cocktail waitresses fight over bringing you drinks because its a slow night.

Never been so hammered in my adult life.

R117, that machine you sat at was wiped down before you go there. You should have been happy. If you want to go to a casino without that much attention to detail, hit Circus Circus. You'll probably feel right at home.

R100 for the fat tourists only!

R100 oooooooooops Treasure Island for the fat tourists only!

[quote]The Spice Market Buffet at Planet Hollywood used to be the best, but that was before the hotel became Planet Hollywood.

I stayed at the Planet Hollywood about five years ago for a work function and it is a gross, dirty hotel. Did not try the buffet.

[quote] If you want to go to a casino without that much attention to detail, hit Circus Circus. You'll probably feel right at home.

Better yet, go next door to Slots-O-Fun!

Does anyone have any info on the new SLS (well, not exactly new-- it's the old Sahara and now a Starwood property.)

I agree 100% with R39.

I used to have to travel to Las Vegas for business a couple times a year and I absolutely HATED it. I even hated the plane rides going since everyone is getting smashed and bragging about how much they're going to win, all the shows they're going to see, all the women (or men) they're going to fuck. The plane rides home are much quieter.

I find the city 100% unnecessary. There is nothing you can do in LV that can't be done elsewhere, at a fraction of the cost and with more enjoyment. Want to gamble? Lake Tahoe is beautiful. Good food? Ever hear of New York, New Orleans, San Francisco, or Los Angeles? Shopping? Beverly Hills, Madison Ave, or Miami does just fine. Plus, in every other one of those cities you'll find natural beauty, unique local attractions, and real people doing real things.

I knew I was in trouble when Chinatown turned out to be a strip mall.

In Las Vegas it's 100% manufactured fakery

r124 lives in Boulder City.

R123, SLS Las Vegas is a complete disaster. The hotel has been compared numerous times to lipstick on a pig. The old Sahara has been gussied up but the bones are bad. Their best Tower, the Luxe will be handed over to Starwood and become a W. Their other two towers are terrible, with small rooms and poor layout. Many have said their furnishings look like they came from Ikea. Some of the restaurants like Jose Andres Bazaar are as good as anything you'll find in Vegas, but their attempt to be a smaller, more intimate Cosmo has been an unmitigated failure. The casino is so dead on weeknights that you could shoot a cannon through and not hit anyone. Inadequately staffed, poorly trained. SLS has now garnered a reputation as being a "thug" hotel because the inexpensive hotel rates have attracted a certain type of clientele. Nightlife has picked up with some cool spots. Aside from that and the restaurants, not much to see.

R97, Wynn was savvy enough to install a really superior water filtration system that really improves the taste of the food. Have a glass of water at any of his restaurants and you'll notice the difference. Had an excellent vegan tofu and broccoli dish (hold the fish sauce) at Andrea's (named for his 2nd wife) on the patio overlooking the interior pool. Since many of the Cirque performers are extremely health conscious as are his upscale Asian guests you'll notice the influence in the variety of choices.

By contrast casinos where most of the targeted guests aren't as affluent or cosmopolitan serve more down home entrees, and Americanized Chinese and Italian food.

[quote]If you want to go to a casino without that much attention to detail, hit Circus Circus. You'll probably feel right at home.

It's been a few years so maybe things have improved, but the last time I was in Circus Circus I had just watched Diamonds Are Forever, and I was shocked to see that almost nothing had changed since the movie was filmed in 1971. It even had the same carpet pattern.

I can overlook the decor, but their policy of turning every bell on every slot machine in the place to full volume (maybe they add extra bells?) gives me a raging headache within minutes of walking into the place.

Circus Circus is fabulous.

R128, There are those who like noisy casinos and who feel intimidated by classical music. Certain casinos were designed for those who don't like dressing up.

R123 it was sold to Starwood which recently was bought by Marriott and they will turn it into the W Las Vegas by the end of the year!

I agree the SLS is a totally mismanaged disaster stay away... dirty rooms ...poor customer service...Stay at the far superior COSMOPOLITAN...hip, trendy young glam crowd!

Is the bellagio, young and hip?

R135 more upscale but very mixed not so young more like 30+ to the Cosmo (18-30's ) one of our favorites as well! 39 here!

R131, not the entire hotel, just the Luxe Towers. It wasn't even sold, Starwood will manage it as "W".

You'll see lots of jeans and t-shirts at the Wynn but no classical music. Sort of jazz/pop fusion.

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We used to layover at Circus Circus in the mid 90s, and I wandered over there one night just to check it out.

It actually makes CC somewhat upscale in comparison.

Cosmo studio terrace room is very nice. I also have stayed in their room with wraparound balcony, overlooking the Bellagio fountains. Now that was grand.

[quote] [R124] lives in Boulder City.

Nope. I live in New York City. Which makes me an insufferable snob, I know, I know

this is the most disgusting thread ever...but then it's a thread about Las Vegas, the most pointless, disgusting and straight city in the world

Lmao r101!!! Great tips ! You had me in tears at the soup!

Yesterday, I mentioned this tread and now Mom has called back and wants to go.

DL warned us off about the horrors of Hawaii, but is there an affordable, non-thug, clean, hotel with no bling necessary that I can take her to?

She's excited about all the buffets.

Do you mean cheap as well as clean and non-thug?

Mandalay Bay has the best steamroom. You can hear the first door open.

Happy sucking

I enjoyed staying at the Cromwell. Great central location on the strip, funky decor, pleasant staff and cool rooftop day club . Also got access to the flamingo and Caesars pools.

R141, Because it's relatively small, geared towards huge family reunions and very small conventions, has live music targeting an older crowd in the lounge a few nights a week, and has a complimentary shuttle to the strip but is relatively quiet, I would look into the locals casino, Orleans. They even have senior days and slot tournaments. I've never stayed there so I can't vouch for the rooms. However for the price the weekday buffet is very popular. The sister property Gold Coast, which is also on the shuttle route, also offers old-time live music and dancing for seniors.

R144, The Cromwell's rooftop pool has specially treated warm, pool water which is beneficial for your skin. Giada's for breakfast or lunch was a treat.

Oooh! Thanks for the tip on The Cromwell. I haven't been to Vegas in nearly 10 years and I had never heard of it. It appears to offer some every stylish rooms for a quite low price.

The Cromwell is the Barbary Coast with a new coat of paint.

The Cromwell is also very small by Vegas standards approx. 300 rooms so you can get in and out in 2-3 minutes. They also have a cool basement club (Drais after hours) that I liked.

[quote]DL warned us off about the horrors of Hawaii, but is there an affordable, non-thug, clean, hotel with no bling necessary that I can take her to?

Pricing in Vegas, like everywhere, fluctuates based on supply and demand. If there are a bunch of big conventions or trade shows, or something like a rodeo or CES in town, you'll pay top dollar pretty much everywhere, unless you go WAY off the strip. If that's an option (if you're going to have a car), Alliante Station is quite nice, as are South Point and M.

Green Valley Ranch Station is also nice, and has a lot of shopping nearby. You can find some good deals downtown, but it's pretty sleazy to walk around. Assuming you want to stay on the Strip and away from the really high end places (Bellagio, Venetian, Wynn, Aria, Cosmopolitan) you might try some of the places that are one tier below -- Paris, Monte Carlo, Mandalay Bay, New York, New York, Bally's, the new LINQ (formerly the Imperial Palace.) Then maybe down a notch: Flamingo, Harrah's, Planet Hollywood, Luxor.

I found the LINQ to be a dump. It REEKED of cigarette smoke throughout the building. I would rather stay at the flamingo.

More about the bellagio!

Bellagio is very much the Vegas experience. Fountains are so cool. However, rooms are small and not very well decorated. Public areas are beautiful. However, it's Grand Central Station as every tourist comes through the place at all hours. Overall, it's a nice place to visit but not to stay.

R111

I think I saw at least three Hermes stores in Vegas.

R150, Red Rock is another good off strip casino.

R155 Yes, thanks for adding that. I also forgot to mention Treasure Island (or "TI") and the Mirage among the mid-range on Strip properties.

Hard Rock Suites - To Die For. I've gotten those suckers for $100 bucks a night BUT you must ask for a room that is NOT on the same side as the night club. They don't turn off the music until 5am and it's so loud it makes the glass vibrate. Also the weekend crowd is rowdy, but during the week it's faboo!

Aren't Green Valley and Red Rocks owned by the same company? I remember a reality show about 10 years ago which too place at Green Valley and it seemed pretty nice.

R158, Station Casinos owns Red Rock Station, Green Valley Ranch, Alliante, Boulder Station, Texas Station, Palace Station. They're the largest chain that primarily caters to locals. I've listed them with the best buffet and atmosphere and the most upscale surrounding area of Vegas first. Boulder Station has a good rep for the quality of its buffet selections although it's East of the Strip, off of Boulder Highway. There are more fast food places along the popular truck stop, camper, and trailer park mecca that is Boulder Highway than you can imagine.

Oh, okay, R14.

What kinds of stores does that shopping mall across the street from The Wynn have? I didn't get a chance to go over and see it.

That was mostly my shock after going back to Vegas from a 10-15 year absence. All the upscale shops in all the hotels!

When I was there the first time I remember buying stuff at The Forum Shoppes at Ceasars. It was like a regular mall. This last time I went I didn't go into a single store. It was too intimidating.

Of course all those upscale shops in all the hotels I saw were empty as could be. There were more salespeople inside waiting around than customers! I wonder how those stores stay open.

Vegas has certainly changed.

The Fashion Show Mall across from Wynn is just like any other mall but it does have a pretty wide assortment of department stores. Every other store is pretty typical. Crystals at the Aria and the Esplanade at Wynncore are high end. Caesars and Venetian/Palazzo also have their malls that are a bit higher end than Fashion Show. There are also a few outlet malls that are exceptionally popular. The one outside Vegas in Primm is actually pretty good. I almost always get great deals at the Last Call Neiman Marcus.

tell me about your experiences at the flamingo.

R160,, Most of the sales people at the high end stores in Vegas work on commission and are hired in part because of their list of customers. A friend who knew multiple languages worked at a specialty jewelry shop at Caesars' Palace Forum Shops. From Day-1 she was told what to wear and where to have her nails and hair done; Gucci shoes, specific black designer suits were de riguer.

Still prospective employees dropped off resumes every week. Usually you had to know the right people to get hired. It was the same with a friend who worked at Saks'. She had a list of favored clientele. When too many returned purchases she went to a shop at Aria with the same requirements.

For practicality and convenience I'd look into shopping at the many stores at the Fashion Show Mall right on the Strip. So many Japanese and Australian tourists shop at the main outlet malls that you'll find prices are actually cheaper online. There are 2 hour waits to get into some of the stores around the main holidays.

Indian gaming has been big in Central California since the 90s, but my my went to one casino and had to register and show her ID, which freaked her out.

R164, I don't understand. You had to register for a Players Card and show ID at an Indian Casino? That's standard protocol in every casino everywhere. If you just want to play and get no benefits, you don't have to get a Players Card or show ID.

I don't gamble and went only once to a casino -- in 1984, I stopped in Atlantic City and just walked in and started to play slots, and I think that was Mom's experience as well, until the Indian casino

That should be "I just gambled once"

She said the group she was with was corralled to a registration table, and she didn't sense a choice.

I will concur with the poster who recommended the Orleans. It is on Tropicana, about 2 miles away from the strip. I stayed there once for a conference, and enjoyed the stay. I thought since it was off the strip it would be a small casino, but it is almost as big as the strip casinos. The hotel portion is not as large as the those on Las Vegas Blvd, but the rooms are good. The odd thing about the rooms is that the bathroom is located at the back of the room like in a motel, not at the entrance to the room as you usually find in hotels.

I liked it enough to go back and stay for a visit with some friends who were on a budget. The rooms are affordable. It has restaurants and a buffet. Nothing like what you see in the big name places. No famous chefs have their name on any eatery. One of the things I like about it is that they don't try to rob you of your money like the strip casinos do. No $20 drinks. Even their gift shop and liquor stores are reasonably priced. It also has movie theaters and a bowling alley, which appeals to locals. If you get a players card there are real discounts on rooms and meals. As mentioned, they do have a shuttle to the strip. I hear it now makes a stop at the High Roller observation wheel.

[quote] tell me about your experiences at the flamingo

In my day it was known as the Fabulous Flamingo Hotel

R168, if she was with a tour, sometimes the groups might want everyone to get a Players Card to prove the number of passengers with the tour, etc. It isn't mandatory but I can see how she might feel intimidated by it. If she went by herself, there would have been none of that.

Thanks, r171.

R86 I've been there twice; the second time the atmosphere was frenzied. We got up from our table to get dessert and they gave the table to someone else. At that point we had been there an hour at most, and we didn't take very long to choose a dessert. They were apologetic and got us another table immediately. The food is great (I had the sea bass with a miso glaze both times, delicious.)

How much is Bachannal or Wicked Spoon? My husband is a veggietarian. What could he eat at the buffet?

8 Scary Facts About Buffet Restaurants

Americans love a deal when it comes to dining. Americans also love big plates of food, and lots of them. So, it's no wonder that buffet restaurants are so popular in the U.S. Large, shiny buffets, packed with never-ending food options, draw diners in like insects to a bug zapper. What a spectacle it is to watch glazed-over buffet diners scurrying about with the conviction of a heroin junkie looking to score. Gluttony is alive and well in America. But here are some things to consider next time you feel like eating at Barf-o-Rama.

Re the Orleans: If you stay once and gamble even a little bit using their points card, they'll send you free room offers every few months. Twice I've missed a connection in the Vegas airport and had to spend the night, and both times I got a free room at the Orleans.

The New Orleans theme is campy in a 1980s way. The rooms aren't fancy, but they're large (make sure you ask for a recently remodeled one). Prices at the bars and restaurants are realistic, unlike the Strip. The pool area is surprisingly pleasant. The lounge has charmingly cheese-tastic entertainers on the weekends. And Charlie's, a gay western bar, is a five-minute walk away. (There's a huge ABS across the street for those who may prefer that.)

Not recommended if you're into nightlife, or if you want the Bellagio/Wynn experience. But it's a slice of old Vegas in a town that has very little of that any more.

r174, whiskey, neat.

[quote]What kinds of stores does that shopping mall across the street from The Wynn have?

It has EVERYTHING!

Viva Las Vegas 🍒🍒🍒

Avoid the buffet at the Bellagio at all costs. The food is good, but not worth standing in line for two hours.

I want to thank all the contributors to the most fun read I've had in ages. This has been both a learning experience as well as a sentimental journey for me.

Let's keep it going as long as possible!!

I've taken my dad to Vegas a number of times and hands down his favorite place to go is the buffet at the MGM Grand. I think it's less intimidating than the fancier places, but still fairly nice. Me, I'd give it a C, but he loves it.

Has anyone ever braved the buffet at Excalibur? The King's Table or something like that. I feel like I can get food poisoning just looking at the posters.

[quote]buffet at the MGM Grand

Like, chicken and roast beef and turkey and vegetables and salads and bread and pies for dessert?

R174, Prices of buffets vary depending on if you're eating a weekday, weekend, or holiday meal. Always get a free slot club card; even if you don't gamble at all you'll get a discount.

There are numerous vegetarian and vegan choices on all buffets in Vegas, especially those catering to a more upscale clientele. There are also live cooking stations where you can get your food cooked to order on request. Still unless you like to eat large amounts of food or taste a very wide variety of dishes, I don't think spending an average of $40 is worth it considering the huge number of other restaurants.

Re healthy choices offered on buffets, consider the clientele each casino is trying to attract. Also realize that even in the most popular grocery chains located in the wealthier areas of Clark County there are a large number of vegan offerings in both the frozen food and the snack and dry cereal aisles. Smiths' for example offers a dozen kinds of non-dairy milk including various types of almond, sweetened, flavored, or plain, soy, coconut, and goat milk. The large wealthy, retired population who don't like to cook everyday can go to the local grocery store/deli combo and easily meet their restricted diet requirements. Even the 99 Cent Stores in the better areas of town have frozen vegan options. So the buffets that cater to locals and tourists that aren't low end all have similarly healthy, vegetarian, and vegan choices.

[quote]Like, chicken and roast beef and turkey and vegetables and salads and bread and pies for dessert?

Essentially. There are some fancier items mixed in, but the MGM buffet is like Golden Corral, but with much higher quality ingredients.

Does the Venetian have a buffet?

Thanks for the info, R161 and R163.

Commissions explain a lot. I knew I should've crossed the street! Damn, maybe next time.

The Excalibur show where they feed you is a fun time, sure. The show was great, with horses and swords and pyrotechnics. The food was okay. If I recall correctly, they give you a side of chicken, (or was it a quarter?) , some soup and bread maybe a baked potato as well. . All things you can eat with your fingers. The wenches were always circulating to refill your drinks.

Afterwards, they let you take pictures with the hottie Knights. Of course, I went a long time ago so I don't know how much has changed.

I hate to be a party pooper, OP, but be careful while you are out there. There is a syphilis outbreak in LV.

The Fashion Show Mall across the street from Wynn Casino is much larger than it appears on the outside. Check with the concierge for their regular mini-fashion shows; the male models are always gorgeous. So are the salesmen in the more upscale shops. Who says Vegas isn't gay friendly?

Any more specific questions about Vegas? Just understand everyone has their own values determining what's best and why.

R185, There are 45 restaurants at the Venetian Casino and at least one of them has a weekend brunch. I haven't eaten there as I prefer the Grand Lux Cafe chain or even Canyon Ranch spa for an informal meal.

R187, Much of the porn industry has moved from LA County to Vegas. There are many swingers' parties catering to both gays and bisexuals so I'm not surprised at the VD outbreak. You rarely see condom ads.

Dammit!!!

L'Occitane and The Body Shop!!

Just the fucking stores I went everywhere hoping to find! 😡 Sigh, I missed the Godiva store as well.

I always thought the Vince Camuto brand was just in Dillard's.

Thanks again, R188.

R190, Anytime. Fashion Show Mall has constant openings of specialty stores catering to an international clientele with varied tastes who want to do a minimum amount of walking to get a huge amount of choice. Honestly their sales make outlet malls passe IMHO.

Of all of the hotels we stayed at...here are our overall favorites starting at the top: Cosmopolitan, Wynn, Bellagio, Aria

R137 agree love that room and terrace chair-lounge

The outlet mall at Primm (stateline) has one of the few Williams-Sonoma outlets. I always end up buying something there.

Bump

Cosmo & Bellagio

I'm a slow eater so I would not do well with a buffet time limit.

Has anyone here ever stayed at the Trump Hotel in Vegas? I think it's just off the strip. Is everything painted gold? Is the buffet yuuuuuggggee?

Trump is not off the strip, it's slightly to the north of Wynn and on the same side as Fashion Show Mall. No Casino and no buffet. They have decent prices and the rooms are nice but if that's the experience you want, you'd do much better at Mandarin Oriental or Four Seasons.

Trump: No Casino and no buffet.

I don't get it.

I love Vegas on a 104-degree afternoon - the fat whores waving at you from every corner... the grime... the noise... the fumes... the near-accident every 60 seconds... the smell!

Here's a secret about the Trump Hotel, if you bid on Priceline for a 5 star hotel on the strip for around $100 or less, you always wind up with the Trump

Hillary will lose the GE, so party it up while you can.

[quote]Here's a secret about the Trump Hotel, if you bid on Priceline for a 5 star hotel on the strip for around $100 or less, you always wind up with the Trump

That's what I thought. And precisely why I've never tried to get a Vegas hotel on Priceline. It could be better than the Four Seasons for $10 a night, I don't care. I'm not spending a night in a building with that man's name on it.

Agreed R204. And I hate that this enjoyable thread has been infected with mentions of that piece of shit.

So, changing the subject - I will be visiting the strip for a few days at the end of March (staying at Caesars Palace) - any restaurant recommendations?

R200, Trump is a boutique hotel aimed at those whose definition of a luxurious vacation includes relaxation and spa services rather than casino noise and crowds. I've been there for several promotional and charity events, a Saks fashion show, and a small company Christmas party. All but the latter were held surrounding the pool. Service was outstanding, restaurant food was of better quality than most buffets, the decor and lighting was definitely understated. The floral arrangements beautiful.

I still question some of Trump's real political philosophies as every time I got the distinct impression almost all employees would fit right in working at the nearby top upscale stores at the Fashion Show Mall, that is extremely well groomed, relatively young, in good physical shape, impeccable manners and style. Absolutely no visible tattoos. Not all were Caucasian either. Very few men at any of the events I attended were straight and most were in pairs. No I'm not usually very observant either.

R205 stay in the NEW Julius Tower ...the rooms are a bit worn-dated in the other section of the hotel. Also, if you're a non smoker...make sure you get a non smoking room because soooooooooo many smoke in Vegas and the rooms stink! Caesars has many restaurants choices and all are great!!! The Bacchanal Buffet is simply amazing!

I completely agree with you R206. Remember, the man was in favor of partial birth abortions 10 years ago. Does anyone really believe that he gives a shit about the bible and other right wing stuff.

I apologize for commenting on he whose name shall no longer be mentioned in this thread. I am giving myself 20 lashes right now for doing so.,

R205, What kind of food, atmosphere, price range are you seeking? How do you rate a quality eatery? There are many new upscale restaurants that are getting a lot of positive attention in Vegas that are West of the Strip in Summerlin, a quieter bedroom community. Also Fremont East and the Arts District have eclectic choices if that's what you prefer.

[quote]So, changing the subject - I will be visiting the strip for a few days at the end of March (staying at Caesars Palace) - any restaurant recommendations?

If you like sushi, try Sushi Roku in the Forum Shop. It's on the third floor in that area just off Las Vegas Blvd (the atrium with the curving escalators). Good, simple and very fresh. And compared to all the aforementioned buffets, very healthy and reasonable.

Piggybacking on the Trump Hotel issue, don't forget that The Palazzo and Venetian are owned by big Republican donor Sheldon Adelson. He spent millions trying to get Newt Gingrich as the Republican nominee.

Thanks R207 - I already have a nonsmoking room booked in the Palace Tower (I think) - I will try to get an upgrade to the Julius Tower.

R209, I won't have a car so I am more or less going to be on the strip the entire time. I will be by myself. I guess what I am looking for is to treat myself to one pretty nice meal ($100 or so). Not a vegan or vegetarian here.

R210, I do like sushi, quite a bit, and my partner hates it, so this could be a good opportunity to enjoy some. Thanks for the tip!

I went to a few restaurants by name chefs since most likely I'll never go to their flagship restaurants. I found most of the food off. It's not possible to do a locally sourced farm to table restaurant in Vegas. More like a Sysco trucked in or flown in movement, and the quality shows.

As far as service goes, no Vegas hotel beats the Bellagio. Although its rooms are not as large as Venetian and Wynn.

R212 slip the front desk agent with your credit card and ID a $20 and ask any possibility of a complimentary upgrade to the Julius Tower? I works ;)

I think you find the best service at the Wynncore. Many have been there since the inception and some have had long careers with Steve Wynn. Bellagio is part of the large MGM family and I believe they sort of coast along by name recognition.

Yep @217, that was my plan - I know of the $20 trick!

Have you ever tried the $20 trick with the front desk and had them reject you with a sneer? I'm curious because I would lie to do that next visit to the MO Miami, but I would die if I was rebuffed.

My understanding is that it's an unwritten rule that if they aren't able to help you at all, they are supposed to give you the $20 back. I once had a very bitchy woman wait on me when I was checking in at Paris, so I didn't even bother trying.

R174, Re what I explained earlier about the increasing popularity of almost monthly free health fairs which influences buffet selections that at least partly caters to upscale locals, and which is also reflected in the increasing number of vegan frozen and packaged food in supermarket chains in wealthier areas, not including Trader Joes, Whole Foods, and Sprouts, there is now a vegfest promoting local restaurants and the vegan lifestyle.

The whole "mandatory resort fee" epidemic has put me off of a lot of hotels (and of using Priceline.) If a fee is mandatory, add it to the stated price of the room, dammit!

R221 Give me your $20 then!

any recommendations for late night, strip or strip adjacent buffets? extra points for sushi or seafood themed?

R225, Not a buffet but open until 3 am, consider the consistently top rated Chinese restaurant in Vegas that's always filled with Asian locals. Ping Pang Pong is located at the small Gold Coast casino which has it's own complimentary shuttle to the strip running every 20 minutes. As I'm not into shellfish I prefer the casino's smaller Chinese noodle shop featuring large portions of standard but very well executed Chinese lunch specials form 11 am to 4 pm weekdays where you'll also see few Caucasians. Considering Gold Coast is in China Town where there are plenty of restaurants to choose from the fact that both places have long lines of customers requesting food to go is a good sign.

The following are all a couple miles off the strip as you won't find strictly sushi buffets paying top dollar for real estate. Note there's more than one choice. You'll find a few choices of sushi at the Cosmopolitan and the better Vegas buffets but all of them close long before midnight.

Caesar's is the best, IMO

While I haven't been to Ichiza it's highly rated and open until 2:30 am. Take the Gold Coast shuttle from the strip and walk 2 blocks to the strip mall that is China Town Las Vegas. You'll also find restaurants with food from all of the other Asian countries. Since it was discussed in the other thread there is a new Tiki Room with a complimentary mini-buffet during the game.

In terms of fancy meals, the Eiffel Tower restaurant is better than you'd think (if what you're thinking is that it's a Disney-esque tourist trap). Expensive, but quite good. And the views are obviously terrific.

Bellagio is hugely expensive. Breakfast buffet for two was over $80 as of November.

"I am looking for is to treat myself to one pretty nice meal ($100 or so). Not a vegan or vegetarian here."

So you're looking for a male prostitute...???

"Bellagio is hugely expensive. Breakfast buffet for two was over $80 as of November."

$40/person for fucking eggs and pancakes?!?!? Fuck that. Where's the nearest McDonald's? One Egg McMuffin, please.

If you really want an enjoyable, high-class Vegas dining experience, might I suggest a cozy boite called Denny's. There might even be more than one within the city limits, but I'm not sure.

DL's Favorite Vegas Hotel & Casino

Ping Pang Pong?? Really?

Thanks R226 - I love Chinese food. I may take a shuttle to Gold Coast and also visit Rio while over there. I remember Rio as being the only place that had men serving drinks in the casino.

Not a restaurant, but if you want see a really fun and amazingly offensive show, go see Absinthe in the courtyard outside Caesar's Palace.

R226 We live here and go to Ping Pang Pong every chance we get. Delicious food, reasonable prices.

Nora's Cuisine is also very popular with locals. Been there a couple of times, enjoyed it (also off strip.)

There are MUCH better food options now in Vegas than the buffets.

Not the OP but thanks for that link r72. Really a big eye opener. I always thought the Bacchanal buffet at Caesar's was supposed to be a huge deal but watching that video really gave me the creeps and I have to say that unless your aim is to wait in line to gobbled down as much food as you can in a limited amount of time then there are probably a lot better options that aren't nearly so overblown or over-priced.

Just debating Easter brunch among the usual group of friends and this thread made the decision for us. We've been going to the same place for a while now and they had a nice, reasonably priced buffet for a time but it's just gotten too big, too overbooked and too rushed to actually be enjoyable anymore.

You know the old joke about how the food isn't so hot but they give you so much of it?

I would agree that there are many better options for good dining than buffets, but for a lot of people it's the experience they want.

Why? I'm not sure. Perhaps the incredible people watching combined with unbridled gluttony?

Are these buffets all you can eat?

Yes, all you can eat. So wear your loose pants and go nuts. That's what they're there for.

R236, No the "D" on Fremont Street is the only casino in Vegas with male cocktail servers. However the Rio has Chippendales. Men are allowed to see this strip show without female accompaniment. By the way I just saw another promotional performance of Thunder From Down at a special marketing event. Those male strippers were drastically different in look, style, athletic ability, and dance routines from the last time I saw them; twinks and young model types with minimal dancing skill to those with tattoos and far more revealing and daring aggressive moves.

R233, There's a Denny's on Fremont Street Experience and a couple right on Las Vegas Blvd Strip. If you're observant you'll find the 2 for 1 coupon on the bus bench too. I've never eaten there because there are way too many better choices. You get very spoiled living in Vegas.

why eat at @ DENNYS or McDonalds when in Vegas...that's fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!

R238, Ask for the special lunch menu at the Noodle Exchange next to Ping Pang Pong weekdays between 11 am and 4 pm if you like more standard Chinese choices. Love the service I receive. I'm usually the only Caucasian eating and get plenty of stares from the other patrons, especially when I ask for hot sauce to add to the egg flower soup.

I do ask them to hold the fish sauce. Crazy story; I knew one White acquaintance who ate there weekly due to casino comps. She wouldn't eat rice without butter, and finally got special permission to go across the casino to the buffet each time to get a few pats of butter. The Chinese wait staff and I just rolled our eyes.

R247, What's even more bizarre is the annual listings of best breakfast, Italian, and coffee shop restaurants in Vegas always list the low quality chains. Savvy editors highlight their favs alongside. I assume Denny's and McDonald's are popular because some locals and visitors insist on familiarity. Like people who eat the same thing every day for lunch and dinner yet aren't on an extreme budget which would make that fact at least somewhat understandable.

There are many new low cost choices to eat on the Las Vegas strip . The extremely popular and IMHO best fast food chain In-N-Out (limited menu but they customize all burgers with desired toppings) a few blocks East on Tropicana has sparked a competition with national burger chains and "boob restaurants" creating long lines.

R232, Small chains Hash House a Go Go and the Luxe Cafe offer many more options than McDonald's. Go with a friend and split your meal as the portions are beyond huge.

Here's a better link for R250. Again everyone I know in Vegas argues about which place to eat has the best food and the most value. Makes a difference to me if I want a quick in and out or a longer, relaxing meal, meaning a more luxurious atmosphere and less noise.

Do they have any non smoking hotels?

R241, Many popular places replace the original chef with a cheaper cook and the food really suffers.Initially many buffets had high quality food when a casino first opens and then watch out. Once got dragged to the Rio as I wasn't paying for it and the visitor had heard it was very good. How can you wreck lemon meringue pie? (I never eat pie crust but the filling was poor quality.) Worse the "tuna sushi" was canned tuna fish mixed with a little mayo and onion and stuck inside a flavored rice exterior. I asked the Chinese sushi maker what was going on, and he said he was just following his instructions.

Then again the head of HR at Bellagio when I worked at there told me mangoes were exotic fruit. I responded i thought cheremoyas and dragon fruit were exotic. He had never heard of either. He had been asking why I had made a special effort to tell the head server at the Bellagio employee dining room to move the mango chutney away from the ice cream sundae bar. After all the HR manager queried shouldn't people be allowed to combine food any way they wanted? Obviously he wasn't familiar with chutney and couldn't believe I didn't have Indian or British heritage. Bellagio at the time was the most upscale casino in Vegas attracting an international clientele.

The very small Silver City once tried to be totally non-smoking and quickly changed their tactic as gamblers wold leave for a smoke never to return. However the newer and more upscale casinos have really superior air filtration systems which also counteract different patrons' strong perfume, cologne and body odor. Don't forget many are highly sensitive to unpleasant smells. An acquaintance once demanded Bellagio give her a different room because they mistakenly put her in a smoking room. Returning 1/2 hour later she couldn't believe she had entered the same one due to their sophisticated cleaning and air filtration. Compensates for the lack of open windows.

Yuck, the idea of canned tuna sushi is just horrifying!

I like China Poblano, in the Cosmopolitan, a restaurant owned by that Spanish chef, Serrano, is it? Great concept: Mexican and Chinese, both. Lots of fun.

I also like the steakhouse at Planet Hollywood. Their chocolate cake is divine.

The pastry and sandwich cafe at Aria is gret: Jean Phillipe Patisserie. His chocolate shop next door is worth a visit.

An old school diner (standalone) is The Peppermill. It's a total throwback to Old Vegas; you must go.

Finally, I also love Rao's in CP. Best meatballs and lemon chicken ever!

R256, I like the atmosphere of Old Vegas's Peppermill but like so many restaurants on Las Vegas Blvd, ie The Strip, I find it way over priced by Vegas standards. You can go a couple of blocks off the strip and find so many places that really appreciate your business but aren't as well known. That's why The Peppermill isn't a "local's place."

Still enjoy Cafe 6, at the 6th Floor of Palms Place (condo building actually on Arville just South of Flamingo, and next to the covered parking lot for Palms Casino.) Eat outside on the 6th Floor relaxing at Palms Place Condos private pool area and enjoy the view, or inside where it's rarely crowded and there are floor to ceiling windows.

Here's another boutique hotel the artsy should check out. Unfortunately every time I've been there half the items on their very limited menu aren't available. Still I'd go for a drink just to check it out. Lesbians the pool is topless to go along with the European feel of the place.

Spoiled locals go off the strip if they want luxe atmosphere and a relaxing meal.

R238, Where in Lake Las Vegas have you dined? Every tourist I take thinks it's well worth the short drive to eat in a relaxing atmosphere casual or more formal.

Self serve and very informal but worth it for the spectacular views. Culinary students are trained here. Yes the menu is limited. You don't need to pay admission unless you want to go inside the buildings and see the exhibits.

R260 Lake Las Vegas is dead. The only casino is closed now, and there are only a few restaurants left.

[quote]Do they have any non smoking hotels?

LOT of non-smoking hotels, but ZERO non-smoking casinos.

[quote]I will be visiting the strip for a few days at the end of March (staying at Caesars Palace) - any restaurant recommendations?

I agree with those who recommended Ping Pang Pong in the Gold Coast.

And Lotus of Siam is really exceptional Northern Thai food. It's another short cab ride from the Strip. Good choice for lunch, but no reservations, so get there early or be prepared to wait.

Ping Pang Pong

I love luxury watches. Which boutiques should I check out?

Is Jean Phillipe in the bellagio any good?

R236, perhaps that is true now but I can assure you that three or four years ago, the Rio definitely had make cocktail servers. It was a nice surprise.

If I go back there on my next trip (less than four weeks now!) and see any I will be sure to report back.

Regarding smoking, it is true that all the strip casinos allow smoking (though I think a few have small non-smoking sections), but what another poster said about the air filtration systems is true. The only place on the strip that I have ever noticed having a terribly smoky smell was the Tropicana, and even that has improved since the renovations of a few years ago.

I used to enjoy the Peppermill when on layovers in Vegas because you can get whatever you want any time of day. I imagine that is true of many other places these days, but back then it was not. I don't recall it being expensive though(as was stated upthread.) I was decorated in the style of early 80s style back then...is it still lie that?

Do you mean guy things, r269, or food?

If you gamble, you can get a line pass. Some, like Wynn, have a certain amount of points to accrue and you get a free buffet as well as the line pass. There are online games like MyVegas where you can accumulate points and trade them in for food, rooms, etc.

I don't understand why Jules at Top dash Buffet dot com isn't ruling this thread

There is one male cocktail server left at Cosmo. They had about 8 when they opened but they've all moved on.

There were 2 left at Bally's but I don't know if they're still there.

Forgot my fav spot for ice cream, the Mid East mini marketplace in front of Bally. Turkish ice cream is very creamy, not as rich or as sweet as gellato, and uses only natural ingredients. They will let you taste their intense fruit flavors like pomegranite and mango. At $5 for a large bowl of 2 flavors (on request) I adore their dark chocolate and almond chocolate with real ground almonds. Pistachio also has ground nuts.

E273 hot latino male server w/ major ass at Caesars

Thanks for the info @R271

RE: SMOKE FREE in VEGAS...The Four Seasons & Mandarin Oriental are luxury smoke free hotels and the Vdara the newest smoke free as well with a bit younger under 40 crowd if that's your preference! I highly suggest the stunning MO but no gaming at the hotel!

Marketplace Cafe in the Fashion Show Mall on Nordstroms' 3rd floor is highly rated due to the quality of food with lots of healthy options and good service.

Just got this email from Groupon:

$69 for two for Bacchanal breakfast buffet. Includes two VIP line passes (shorter line?)

cool that breakfast will hold you over till dinner...no lines are short in Vegas!

Vegas really sucks as everyone seems to fucking smoke!!!!!!!!! No control of where people smoke etc... it is out of control!

R281 has stated her boundaries.

$140 for breakfast????

Mandarin Oriental -Four Seasons is costly but upscale luxury , no smoking anywhere...you get what you pay and you get class...1st Class treatment and crowd!

Called the Mack Daddy of all Vegas Buffets: $95per.

Coshomopolitan

What are the Best boutiques for luxury watches and jewelry in Vegas?

R287 The shops at Crystals@ The Aria Hotel & Casino ....The Mandarin Oriental is next door

R286 My goodness, he doesn't look real.

R283 No, 69 for two. You know what I mean, eh, you know what I mean?

I've lived in Vegas for many years. Can't say I do buffets much anymore as I prefer the local restaurants (I also eat ridiculously healthy due to doctor's orders). I went to the Strip for the first time in a couple of years (with the exception of our work holiday party) when my Mum came into town. She first stayed at Aria, and then at Monte Carlo, which was half the price of Aria. I was surprised how nice MC's rooms were - they have completely remodeled them and they are quite nice. Mum also loved the MC employees - the bellman who assisted her had been with the hotel for 23 years. There are tons of long term employees.

Restaurants - OP, since you're on the Strip, I will second some of the other recommendations listed above. Wicked Spoon at Cosmopolitan is very good. I haven't been to Bacchanal and don't think I ever will considering the price and the time limit. Bellagio's breakfast is fantastic - make sure you visit the juice bar and try some of the more interesting combinations. Wynn Buffet is good, but used to be better. It used to be worth the money - now, less so. The Sterling Brunch at Bally's on Sunday is worth it for the Perrier-Jouet champagne and the hyper-attentive service. I take my mother there once a year for a special meal. Ping Pang Pong at Gold Coast IS that good and so worth the trip. Mandalay Bay's buffet has gone down in quality from what it once was, but its still not bad and does include wine or beer, which is a nice touch.

If you want celebrity restaurants without the huge bill, check out some of the more reasonably-priced alternatives. My friend and I went to Bobby Flay's Burger Palace at Crystals (right by Mandarin Oriental). Honestly one of the best burgers I've had (I got the Cuban burger - its basically a Cuban sandwich on a burger). Also at Crystals is Todd English's PUB which is a fun spot. Burger Bar at the Shops at Mandalay Bay is Hubert Keller and also excellent (I also met him there once - he's a lovely guy). The amount of options for your burger, from meat to toppings, is crazy. Gordon Ramsey also has a burger place, but I haven't been there yet - heard its good though. There are so many good restaurants in this city especially beyond the Strip.

June can be really hot in this town, so make sure you dress is comfortable clothing, carry water with you and bring comfortable shoes. Have fun OP! If you have questions, just post them - there are several locals on this board. We're happy to help you out.

R291, As a fellow local I didn't know the famous Bally's serves top quality champagne. However since I would only drink a couple of glasses and am still dieting with a very delicate stomach I'd just get sick looking at all that food. There are others who believe that buffets are the very definition of luxury ie too many choices of what to eat. Don't forget they got their boom from kids who went through the Depression years.

I would love to know what restaurants are your favs using the following criteria: top quality house made food which is either budget priced (Png Pang Pong) or in such a beautiful atmosphere you would want to spend at least 2 hours thoroughly enjoying your meal in their luxury surroundings. I don't mind paying top dollar for the latter. Also the location and level of service is irrelevant to me as is cuisine. I'm allergic to shellfish and can't stand caviar; even the smell of both reminds me of something my cats would have loved. Served lobster on a buffet on a movie set. Took one bite and ugh. Everyone else went crazy and begged for the non-existent leftovers. Couldn't morally throw it out, and as it was the end of the work day I wrapped it up in lots of foil and brought it home for 2 very appreciative cats. Doled it out equally for 3 days. Two pairs of eyes were popping out of heads to make sure I didn't give one morsel more to the other. On the 4th day I opened my refrigerator and there were 2 extremely disappointed cats wondering why the refrigerator wasn't "growing" any more lobster. That's what makes many buffets so popular, the choice and quantity of seafood.

I loved your lobster and kitties story R292! I can just picture their little faces in anticipation of the treat!

Best hotels for gay couple in 40's for a couple days with or without gaming is fine, smoke free if possible, terrace-balcony if possible (I know the Cosmo has)?

When a blimp finds a buffet she thinks she has died and gone to heaven!

R294, Depending on your taste in art and willingness to stay off of the strip, I'd look into the Artisan linked above. Almost all employees are gay. It's non-gaming and small. I didn't see anyone smoking when I went to many wine tastings and other social events.

You also might want to consider renting for a couple of days at the Palms Place Condominiums, across the parking lot from the Palms Casino. It's also small and you'd love the 6th Floor pool area.

Have only been to Via Brazil for appetizers and drinks, so that's what I'd recommend for this very popular, beautiful newish restaurant in Summerlin, West of the Strip.

Ha ha! I go to the China Wok buffet in Pahrump, Nevada. About 100 items including a sushi bar and some good vegetarian choices. $10.

If you enjoy Mexican Food Juan's Flaming Fajitas is AMAZING. Definitely order the fajitas for 2 - Great off the Strip location. It's very close to the 215 which loops around the entire Las Vegas area. You can get to Juan's in about 15 min from the Strip.

[quote]Ha ha! I go to the China Wok buffet in Pahrump, Nevada. About 100 items including a sushi bar and some good vegetarian choices. $10.

And afterward, head over to one of Pahrump's whorehouses for a little dessert!

Ah, to live in Pahrump, Nevada, where all the necessities of life - alcohol, gambling, fireworks and prostitution - are legal!

Actually that Chinese buffet in Pahrump does include a dessert bar.

Original Lindo Michoacan

R303, Thanks for the reminder. Do they still make their tortillas from scratch on premises? Recall the story of the owner who was an "undocumented worker" and now very wealthy.

[quote]Definitely order the fajitas for 2

What if it's just me? Can I still order the fajita for 2?

R301, Once visited one of the "larger" casinos in Pahrump. Big sign outside the wooden door, "No guns allowed inside." Waitress said they were very serious as too many gamblers forgot they were packing.

R296 thanks for the tip doesn't sound like our thing... Of these hotels which is the most gay friendly, upscale for the best vegas experience...Cosmo, Aria, Bellagio or Encore @Wynn but that seems so far from all. WE are leaning as for now the Cosmo and Aria and they seem to have the best location near at all! Thought!?

[quote]Once visited one of the "larger" casinos in Pahrump. Big sign outside the wooden door, "No guns allowed inside." Waitress said they were very serious as too many gamblers forgot they were packing.

"No guns allowed inside. Whores optional."

Vegas is the last place in America where you can still smoke indoors, so it attracts all the smokers. I was there back in 1994 and there weren't as many people smoking as there was when I was there last week. It was crazy to me how many people were smoking. Smokers used to be spread out but now they all have to go to the casino.

Btw, Is smoking allowed in common areas...pools, inside restaurants, clubs? Or is it only allowed in the casinos

R307, all those hotels are gay friendly. Wynncore used to have a pride concierge. If you go Wynncore, you must reserve the Tower Suites. Service is almost equal to a MO or FS and there is no resort fee. If you go Aria, you must reserve the Sky Suites. Cosmo has the best standard suites, but their wraparounds are perhaps the best rooms in all Vegas. Cosmo probably has the best location of all and if you're lucky enough to get a fountain view with the wraparound suite, you'll probably scream when you see it. Wynncore is not all that far away but Cosmo is the most centrally located. Aria and Bellagio are set back so it's a bit of a walk to the strip but at Cosmo, you just come out of the hotel and you're right on the strip. I'd eliminate Bellagio from the list. Nice to place to visit but I wouldn't want to stay there.

r310 Not sure about the pool or the clubs but you cannot smoke in the restaurants. If the common area is on the same floor as the casino then yes you can usually smoke.

[quote]Vegas is the last place in America where you can still smoke indoors

Not true. Every single Indian casino in California (and there are DOZENS) allows smoking.

Okay, casinos are the last place in America where you can still smoke indoors...

Anyone ever been to Lakes Lounge on West Sahara? Very informal but pretty views of the water; apparently gets top reviews of the food which is mostly under $10.

Bahcanal at Cesars is realllllly good. It is expensive (something like 60 a person) but it is all top notch food, made to order sushi filet mignon

Other than that skip most buffets. The Border grill at Mandalay Bay is amazing, Sushi Samba in the Pallazo side of the mall inside the Venetian/Pallazzo - If you can go off the strip, Leticia's for the best Mexican Food in Vegas, Hash House a Go Go for really good chicken and waffels - and don't forget In and Out Burger.

R316, Heard the meals at Hash House a Go Go can easily be shared. Then again so many like buffets.

Does Leticia's use lard or vegetable oil for most of the cooking? It does claim to serve healthy food. Can't handle anything high fat.

There's a Hash House A Go Go in one of the smaller hotels in the middle of the strip, I think. I've never been there, but I was at a HHAGG in San Diego once. They essentially give you an entire buffet's worth of food on one plate. Surreal.

When I'm in Las Vegas, I try to do some thing's out of habit. Breakfast at Mon Ami Gabi in the Paris Hotel and Casino. Depending on the weather, you can sitting outside and enjoy the sun and view,, or in the garden room and feel like you're really almost in Paris. I love their hash browns mixed with a little caramelized onion. Another breakfast stop is at Guy Fieri's place at the Linq Hotel and Casino, formerly the Imperial Palace/then Quad Hotel. I know Guy is a persona non grata here. but I will go if I had a long night the night before and have one of his party in a glass Bloody Marys.

By the way, if you've not been to the Linq since it was the Imperial Palace, you have to go in and check out the transformation of the casino. Caesars Entertainment spent millions in renovation. I've not stayed in the hotel, but the casino is very modern and hip by today's standards. They also tore down the neighboring O'Shea's and rebuilt it right next door. In it's place they created the Linq , a walking district of shops and restaurants that lead you from Las Vegas Blvd. to the High Roller observation wheel.

We always used to go to the Luxor and the Rio for fabulous buffets. But that was like 15 years ago.

They're still good. Rio has a seafood buffet that's awesome. Luxor has wonderful variety.

OP, skip the buffets and just plant yourself at the Cheesecake Factory at Caesar's.

Most people can go to a Cheesecake Factory near where they live. Why go there on vacation? My one vacation rule is to NEVER eat at a restaurant that I can go to at home.

I live in NYC which is Cheesecake Factory-less. I know it's silly, but I always associate Vegas with CF.

My one vacation rule is to NEVER eat at a restaurant that I can go to at home.

We agree so true...try others is a must when on Vacation!

I noticed the last time I was there that every hotel had a burger joint. Any idea which is the best?

You know too many restaurants don't cook from scratch anymore. They use a lot of processed frozen Sysco foods. Try to find local restaurants with local produce is getting harder.

Hubert Keller has a burger place somewhere in LV - I have seen him there once or twice too. Nobu in Caesars is awesome too - just never get the chef special...we did that once and it was 75 dollars...there is a Lucky Changs too in Vegas.

R326, I'm not a burger expert but I would pick Holstein's at the Cosmopolitan because of the ease of customizing my order and the quality of the ingredients. Already mentioned that they have a superb vegan burger. If they can make vegetables and oatmeal into a tasty sandwich think of what they can do for meat.

What is the place in Las Vegas that you are most likely to meet other gay men?

R326, Always the rule in Vegas is if one new concept is deemed profitable in Vegas expect lots of copycats trying to improve on it to lure away business. Then they'll be a saturation point. When they start to lose money they'll look harder for the next idea that's turning a quick profit. That's true of any area of nightlife, restaurants, which demographic is being catered to, amenities offered by hotels and casinos, even cocktail waitress and cocktail waiter outfits and hiring practices.

Note that there's a lot more blue collar appeal on the strip's offerings with all of the long entrances to casino's now packed with ways to make more money. There are chain and individually owned beer, drinks, and limited menu small "Sports Bars" with cheesy entertainment imitating Timbers and Hooters. Most have good views of the Strip and passers by.

R330 any hotel gym or steam-sauna room most definite...ask the concierge at your choice of hotel as well!

R330, AFAN fundraiser events. Currently there's Sun nights at FIZZ nightclub at Caesars' Palace. In Sept check out "Strip Wars" where for one midnight show the very hottest and most talented men strip to almost nothing. Each creates their own individual act set to a their choice of song. While a few do sing most choose to do very athletic, aerial stunts while stripping a foot away from the audience. Yes there are some women performers. The Cirque-like performers are all volunteering their time as 100% of the $25 and $50 ticket money is given to charity.

"My one vacation rule is to NEVER eat at a restaurant that I can go to at home."

Yes! And I also try to avoid eating things I can eat in my town and shopping at stores I can shop at in my area.

A vacation is supposed to bring unique experiences and discoveries.

They have McDonald's in London, Rome, and Paris, too. If I ever get to one of these cities, the LAST place you're going to find me is at an American fast food place! Je ne suis pas manger de la merde!

Serendipty 3 in front of Caesars - the best fucking giant ice cream creations in the world.

[quote]Most people can go to a Cheesecake Factory near where they live. Why go there on vacation? My one vacation rule is to NEVER eat at a restaurant that I can go to at home.

A good life rule is just to NEVER go to a Cheesecake Factory.

[quote]They have McDonald's in London, Rome, and Paris, too. If I ever get to one of these cities, the LAST place you're going to find me is at an American fast food place!

Actually, I would love to go to the McDonalds there to try their different regional items. Plus see how their fries taste.

Thank you R332. But other than for cruising, where can you go in Las Vegas just to meet gay friends? Are there coffee houses that have largely gay clientele? Are there regular events, similar to the Top of the Bay happy hour in San Diego on Fridays? Are there social events? Or are bars the only way to meet gay friends in Las Vegas?

Just Google Gay LAS VEGAS and see what comes out ;O

Las Vegas is not the best city of gay people r338. Which isn't to say there is nothing there for us, but it just isn't a big gay destination (thankfully I say, glad most gay guys enjoy better cities).

A lot of gay Las Vegans are of the Log Cabin rich-cunted variety.

Nasty, nasty group of A-Gays.

They hang at the Cosmo and swill $20 tinis.

Vile, simply vile.

Are gays in Las Vegas cliquish?

Cliquish? It's just different in Las Vegas. The town is all about the casinos and the people who work there are ruled by the shifts they have to work. So if the MGM has a shift that ends at midnite the gays will head out to the bars at that time. Also Casinos rely HEAVILY on word of mouth and personal recs to hire people in, especially when it's directly related to gambling, so it's a very social environment. It's not like other cities where , ar certain hours you can expect bars to be populated and gay to be oout and about. It's a little different there.

How is Jean Phillipe pattiserie?

[quote]How is Jean Phillipe patisserie?

Quite good. Also Payard at Caesar's Palace.

AS for the best burgers in VEGAS ~

Oohh... I don't like In-N-Out at all. Last 2 times I went to those I got dry, tough burgers. Their quality control has fallen apart.

Anyone tried a Guy Fieri restaurant?

Guy's places in LV and NYC get terrible reviews on Yelp. Apparently he basically just licenses his name to them, and has no control over the operations.

I was told to get the most delicious burgers at the Cosmo-Holsteins

I didn't care for Holstein's. I'm interested in Burgr, in PH, however, having heard good things.

The best place to get a hamburger is often the bar of a steakhouse. They take parts of steaks that were trimmed off and grind them up into ground beef. The result is a higher-quality beef patty and they know how to cook it.

R352, So that explains why the sliders served during Happy Hour at McCormick & Schmicks on Paradise and Flamingo, 1/2 mile East of the strip, has had a good rep for sometime. They used to get a lot of convention business depending on which was in town. However it's better known for their seafood.

McCormick & Schmick -- another chain place that most people can go to in their home cities. Sorry -- not while on vacation.

Sorry R292, I went AWOL for a few days.

My favorite restaurants in town - many have already been mentioned. Lotus of Siam is fantastic. I took by brother there; he lived in Thailand for a year. He said Lotus was the most authentic food he had eaten outside of Thailand. Right across from Lotus in the same slightly skanky plaza (in the middle building) is Cornish Pasty Company. If you haven't had one, a pasty is basically a meat and veggie pie. My roommate's favorite is the chicken pesto (with artichoke); mine is the salmon. Spinach walnut soup is to die for. We've gotten to know a couple of the chefs there - young, hipster types who really know how to cook. Everything is made in house from scratch, down to the incredible bread that comes with the soup. They are damn proud of this. Lindo Michoan - I usually go to the one on Desert Inn. Great Mexican food; get the guacamole. Its amazing.

I spend loads of time in Chinatown too. Favorite places are DJK Korean (the tofu soup with pork is wonderful comfort food when you're feeling yucky and the little side dishes are so good); Fat Dumpling is a fairly new addition in the same plaza as DJK. Love their dumplings, made from scratch. Really good pho too - far better than the getting more "meh" all the time Pho Kim Long. A smoothie/boba tea menu that can rival the best places in San Francisco's Chinatown - over 100 options, all made from fresh fruit. My favorite is from the crazy fruits menu; [apaya, watermelon, strawberry, banana and (yes) avocado. its got a wonderful milkshake texture with none of the dairy or fat. It frequently serves as my dinner after work. Fat Dumpling is also ridiculously cheap and building a big to go business, especially as they're opening quite late. I had lunch with a friend recently - two huge bowls of pho and green tea was $20. The cold celery and peanut salad is around $3 for a big container. Its like crack. Can't stop eating it. Got my boss addicted too.

Same plaza, around the corner towards 99 Ranch is Hawaiian Style Poke - raw marinated tuna. Expensive as Hell (a pound container is about $15), but so worth it. I get wasabi poke, no onion. I took my sister there and she proceeded to plead with the owner to open up a location in NYC, promising she would eat there every day (he laughed). To go only - has a couple of tables outside in the plaza. I love their spam musubi, but its gone by 11 a.m. every morning - a lot of locals use it for a quick lunch. Good seaweed salad, excellent kim chee (and they have cucumber kim chee too, which is milder). My friend from Kauai got me into boiled peanuts - they are really delicious and a good snack; you can get a big container of them at Hawaiian Style for $3.50.

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For a treat, can't recommend Gelato Bar enough - its towards Valley View, same plaza (near the new Hot & Juicy Crawfish location). The owner is awesome and makes everything there. The staff are super friendly, can tell you exactly how everything is made and will happily let you taste every flavor. I do the sorbet - so many flavors. The green apple has tiny shreds of apple. Love the pineapple. The scoops are absolutely huge too. I spend $8, get three monster scoops in a quart container, freeze it and it lasts me for a week. Like most places in Chinatown, Gelato Bar has been staying open late to accommodate the late night crowd.

In a slightly skanky neighborhood (Twain and Swenson, on same side as 7-11), lies the last independently owned Jewish deli in Vegas - Bagelmania. Been there for 30 years. Real New York bagels (boiled first), chopped liver, lox, you name it. Monster meat and potato knishes. We're there every weekend for bagels. Excellent breakfast special for about $7 - eggs, hash browns, ham steak or bacon and a bagel (with butter or cream cheese). I always get it to go as I've only been able to finish it once. Its huge. A couple of doors down (past Madison Avenue, which is a very laid back teamster's bar with really strong, cheap drinks - my roommate and I frequently hang out on a Saturday afternoon) is Merkato Ethiopian Restaurant. Very inexpensive - we get two orders of beef awaze tibs (spicy beef) and an order of red lentils (with tons of injera) for around $30. Service is really good too. Another place we get takeout from - sometimes they do the traditional coffee ceremony and I find the incense a bit potent. Besides, the food tends to last 3-4 meals.

Sorry, this got really long. There are so many good restaurants in this town and I love trying new ones.

is it easy to get job as bartender in vegas if you're over 40 male but can pass for 35, slim and tall?

[quote]I didn't care for Holstein's. I'm interested in Burgr, in PH, however, having heard good things.

Didn't someone upthread say BURGR was an Asian fusion restaurant??

Thoughts on the Cosmo vs. Mandarin Oriental.

R357 - no, no and NO. Vegas hotels demand head shots. They don't give a rat's ass about how good of a bartender you are, they're more interested in what you look like. The bartenders in the gay bars tend to hang on to their jobs for years and years. Money is simply too good. I've known several bartenders who worked until retirement at the bars they were at. This is one of the hardest towns to get a bartending job in - because of gaming, there's a whole different set of requirements. Local bar owners will fire at the drop of a hat, because they know they will get a ton of applicants. My local bar had an opening - they didn't even have to run an ad. They had five solid applicants within 24 hours just by word of mouth (and this was for a weeknight graveyard position - less than ideal).

R359, there's no competition. Mandarin, hands down. Better rooms, better service, better everything. Mandarin is a beautiful hotel.

R361 thank you...we are leaning towards 3-4 days at the MO late September -October at this point as the Cosmo , Bellagio and Aria are so close by and the MO is smoke free :)

R357, My very 1st question re any extremely high paying job in Vegas, and jobs with tips pay more than most managers even if it's in an off bar, is "Who do you know?" Meaning is your relative the bar manager?

Let me give you an example about parking valets. Yes this story goes back to before the economy temporarily sinking during Pres Obama's 1st term. Sam's Town is now viewed as a lesser rate casino as it's located on Boulder Highway. One valet parker got his job because his father was an upper level manager at the casino. The other 2 valets paid him $400 a week to sit at home because they wanted to split his tips. Yes they were still making a considerable profit. There were rumors at that time to get a valet parking job at Caesars' Palace not only did you need to know a high level manager but you had to pay $50 to $75,000 up front for the job. At the same time bartenders during swing shift at what is now Cromwell were making $150,000 a year. It was then a small casino and definitely not on the level of the top casinos. Remember there are coffee shop waiters off strip with masters' degrees because they make more money as a waiter.

What I would consider if you are physically capable is a banquet waiter. Connections still make a difference.

R363, I second the banquet waiter suggestion. It's hard work but the money can be excellent when you work your way up to the choice banquets.

MO is the better, calmer experience but Cosmo has the balcony. You can go to any MO worldwide (although ironically, the Vegas version is cheaper than anywhere else) but sitting with a drink while watching the Bellagio fountain show is something that should be experienced at least once. And September/October is perfect weather for this. No question MO is the superior hotel, primarily because they have so few rooms, but I personally want the in-your-face Vegas experience. I also like having the kitchenette and washer/dryer available.

I have to second the Cosmo balconies. If you get a wrap around terrace suite facing the Bellagio fountains, it's the best room I've ever had in Vegas. I agree service won't be as good as MO or Wynncore Tower Suites but Cosmo is really trying to up their game and you'll likely have a great time.

Just got $30 off the $69 breakfast for two deal at Bacchanal with a Groupon, code NEXTFREE. (The code is good for any Groupon, up to $30. Got it by email. It says select subscribers - in my case, that must be someone who hasn't bought a Groupon in a long time. Hopefully, it works for everyone.)

R365 cool true about that terrace =Bellagio Fountain experience! Maybe we do 2 days MO and 2 Days Cosmo!?

[quote]The bartenders in the gay bars tend to hang on to their jobs for years and years. Money is simply too good. I've known several bartenders who worked until retirement at the bars they were at.

How does this work? Generally once you start losing your looks aren't you pushed aside in most jobs like that? I mean lets face it, gay bars want an attractive bar staff. When get you on the other side of 40 can they really stay there?

R368, I think those properties are too close together. If you want to split, try one MO/Cosmo and the other Wynn Tower suites. That way you'll be center strip and then experience North.

I think you said you were interested in 24hr dining and with the exception of room service, MO does not have a cafe or late night dining. Although their high end restaurants are nice, I'd still prefer SW at Wynn for a steak or Blue Ribbon for sushi. I think only MO and FS do not have a 24hr cafe. I agree it's important when you come home at 3-4am and you want to get something quick before heading up.

R270 that's an interesting thought ..How's Wynn's ~ Encore...it's so far down away from everything? No other hotel in that area sounds interesting or up to our standards!

It's not far at all. You're next door to Palazzo/Venetian and across from Fashion Show Mall. Wynncore and Palazzo/Venetian are essentially two hotels in one and you're also close to TI and Mirage. Wynncore also has a very upscale shopping area. I think this is a good compromise if you don't mind moving. Remember Wynncore Tower Suites are considered five star, same as MO and FS, AriaSky Suites and MGM Skylofts. The rooms are pretty much the same as their Standard but the perks and service are way better.

R369, Usually bartenders who are very good at all aspects of their jobs are kept on as they age but are also expected to train and guide newbies and do other additional work.

Wanted to add that the Tower Suites at Wynncore have their own entrance, lobby, elevators and even pool. It's very nice after being Center Strip.

Vegas Baby~

r376, That has to be the nastiest, loudest auto play video I have ever heard for what? Last big give away, VIP at the TI. Do people really care about this THIS much?

What gay things are there to do other than the steam room? I know Luxor has a Sunday pool party, but most visitors leave Sunday morning.

Did Krave move downtown yet and is it good?

Does the idea of overeating mediocre food really turn people on?

Couldn't you just order from a bunch of restaurants and do the same thing at home

DataLounge doesn't take kindly to big, fat pigs, OP.

Caesars , Cosmo , Wynn really rock as top hotels-casinos! Mandarin for luxury no gambling though!

Bellagio for families and Europeans not that gay friendly

Wicked Spoon at The Cosmopolitan is Amazing. Kim Chee fried rice, soy sauce crusted duck legs, and squid ink risotto (I had two servings, it was so great!) Then for dessert I had Panna Cotta with pomegranate seeds. Very different from the same generic buffets.

R383, Every bit of that sounds disgusting.

R384 is a Soyboy. No Tender Greens here.

Was just in Las Vegas in December and it's been a while since my previous visit.

Mandarin Oriental is now Waldorf Astoria

Serendipity 3 outside of Caesars is no more

Stayed at the Cosmopolitan, which was fine. If you wanted to know about the buffet, Wicked Spoon is certainly unique, as R383 pointed out. They do have a to-go option at $20 where they provide you with a decent size box, small container for soup, etc. and a ramekin. On your way out, they add utensils and bottled water to your bag that waits for you at the registers. I happened to arrive as brunch became dinner so this was pretty cool.

Just went to their site and the to-go went up to $25 as of the 1st.

Resort fees are ridiculous, but it appears unless you're a VIP of some sort, its an evil 'necessity'. Cosmo's just went from $35 to $39. The 'complimentary parking' is now essentially part of the resort fee.

The Strictly Dumpling guy reviews Asian food markets around the world and has some Vegas videos.

My favorite Las Vegas is the one in Nevada, OP.

Mandalay Bay and Caesars buffets are not worth the money.

Definitely go see Paranormal at Bally's - it's the best show I've ever seen, and stay after for meet & greet to have your mind read. For reals.

I was excited by Giada’s menu but everyone I know who has been there was disappoint the food - cold, overpriced - and the spotty service.

I was a bit surprised to see that the high-end patisseries (Jean Phillipe, Payard) all seem to have disappeared from the Strip. Disappointing.

Any advice on where to get good desserts?