227

I did. I don't know why. It was silly.

You seem to have overlooked ME, Emmy-winning star of "American Crime." Now in Season 2 on ABC.

i don't like regina king. her role on 227 was retarded and i hated her. i liked sandra clark and pearl.

Shame what happened to Logo; however Golden Girls, Empty Nest, 227 and Amen were my favorite Saturday night shows back then.

listen bitch, i watch logo and i like how they show 227.

That woman "Pearl" was (is?) so hideously ugly. Who defused that it was a good idea to put her on camera? I don't think I've ever seen an uglier human in my life.

[quote]Who defused that it was a good idea to put her on camera?

defused?

Helen Martin aka "Pearl" had a long acting history and and she was a riot as the nosy neighbor. She was also Weeping Wanda on "Good Times."

I'm surprised Alaina Reed-Hall died so young. I remember her when she was Olivia on "Sesame Street."

I stopped watching the final season where, to make up for Jackee's departure, they added about five new characters.

r6, Helen Martin was extremely hilarious. She starred in several black movies in the 80's and 90's and using her filthy mouth.

It was one of those shows to shut people up about there not being enough black people on television. I went to a taping of it at Metromedia Square. The fucking 22 minute show took over six hours to record and they wouldn't let anyone in the audience leave even though we were starving.

I haven't seen Helen Martin in anything lately, too bad, she's very talented.

My mother used to call it "two twenty seven".

Like R4 it was part of my families Saturday night and those shows were shows everyone could agree to watch without arguments. I miss 80s TV.

What was the deal with the white guy? Did they ever explain what he was doing there? Did he like dark meat?

I wish they would release the rest of the seasons on DVD.

R14 that was Barry Sobel who was a popular wigger in the 1980s. Anytime a black show needed a white guy to rap and act black for comic effect Barry was their go to guy.

This show is funny and it aired on NBC on Saturday nights along with 2 other female dominated sitcoms The Golden Girls and the later years of The Facts of Life.

That last year was awful though with those 2 young hip guys moving in, Travis and Dylan.

Paul Winfield was pretty funny though.

And he's gay.

I thought the husband was hot.

Sandra Clark was my favorite character.

I'll always think of the husband as Big Dick Blaque from the movie "Hardcore".

Mary was truly an unpleasant character.

R 22 she was! That is surprising since I like Marla Gibbs.

Helen Martin was a well known pot smoker. She talked about it every time she was on a talk show. She had a perfect way with a line like "this classic chassis can take a licking and keep on ticking."

I knew 227 was in trouble in the first episode when they tried featuring Alaina as the lead supporting character and Jackee made such an impression with her brief scene. Once they made the change, the show gained momentum.

Helen Martin had a filthy mouth and loved pot!

I loved it. Sandra was a hoot. Such a great over-the-top character, played to perfection Everyone was great, but Sandra stands out, then Pearl. Mary had her moments. Whatever happened to the actor who played Calvin.

Sandra doing the weather was probably one of my favorite episodes.

loved that show.

There's no place like home. with your family around you, you're never alone.

It was OK till Jackee Harry became simply Jackee.

Is it true that Marla Gibbs was bald and had to wear wigs and toward the end she just said "fuck it" and that's why she had that almost bald head?

Whatever happened to Jackee? I thought she was poised for a great career.

Glad to see Regina King making her mark in movies.

It wasn't great comedy, but I liked the show. It was an enjoyable half hour, and the characters were likable. Marla Gibbs spoke about the Jewish mafia in Hollywood and that about ended her career though.

i think jackee harry died.

No, Jackee is very much alive last I heard. Helen Martin (Pearl) died many years ago as did Alaina Reed-Hall (as did her real-life husband who also appeared on the show).

Last I heard, the actor who played Calvin is no longer in the business.

Does LOGO show anything gay anymore?

yes. they show gay movies and have gay shows like another incarnation of ru paul's drag race.

LOGO has always been a piece of shit network.

Like Bravo R35, aka Andy Cohen.

Bravo was decent before it was rebranded. It actually used to be more like Ovation.

[quote]Regina King

Her sister is Rena King which means queen in Spanish and Regina means queen in Latin. That's retarded. Like naming one kid Marie and the other one Maria

Queen in Spanish is REINA, not Rena.

I mean no place, child.

What's this about Marla Gibbs talking about the Jewish mafia?

Jackee went onto Sister, Sister I believe. But she never had the same success as she did on 227.

The problem with the show is that, like the Phyllis spinoff from MTM, they watered down Marla Gibbs' Jeffersons persona to make her the vanilla star of the show which made her unfunny. Jackee filled the void and walked away with the accolades and the laughs.

That might be because she wasn't playing Florence, but an entirely different character.

you all watch the 227 marathon this Saturday on Logo - 2/27! it's being hosted by Jackee!!!

i know, r44. can't wait till saturday!

Conversational Jackée

I remember there was a lot of tension between Marla Gibbs and Jackee. Marla was pissed because 227 was supposed to be her show, but Jackee's Sandra wound up being the break-out character. The show started to focus more on Sandra to Marla's chagrin. The producers decided to try to give Jackee her own spin-off show due to the increasing tensions between Gibbs and Jackee. It failed on both ends. Jackee's show didn't even get picked up, and 227's ratings tanked after Jackee left.

True r47.

Whatever happened to Helen Martin? Pearly was easily the funniest character on the show, I'm surprised she hasn't gotten more work since then. Regina King is all over the place and Jackee pops up here and there.

227 marathon on logo tv today. watch it, ya'll.

Yes, I liked it. It reminds me of a more innocent time in this country.

"You gonna die. DEAD!"

Clip from Jackée's first TV role, as Lily Mason on [italic]Another World[/italic]

What does 227 mean?

Apartment house number

Helen Martin died in 2000 at 90

What's wrong, as someone wrote up-thread, with someone saying "Two twenty seven". Is there some rule that says otherwise? Two two seven is not necessarily the correct way to say an address.

Mary was so MEAN to her daughter!

Why did you all find Mary unpleasant? Sandra and Pearl were the best characters. Mary was sorta a stick in the mud. Remember the episode where they made a big deal about Rose going away to NYC for the weekend with a man? Mary was real prudish about it.

[quote]Helen Martin died in 2000 at 90

That's no excuse! Tell her to get her ass in gear and go on some auditions!

Marla played a gay character on Scandal last season.

Mary was a total bitch to Brenda.

I love watching it on weekends on OWN.

Calvin had a big dick.

I wish Mary, Rose, Sandra and Pearl were my friends. Instead, I have none.

Marla hated that Jackie won the emmy.

Marla hated Jews, so did Jackeeeeee, so in turn I didn't watch their crappy show

I love 227. I watch it every weekend on OWN. Good times again.

I don't think Mary was mean to Brenda at all. She was a responsible and protective parent to a young teenage girl. There were plenty of good scenes between them but Mary made sure she did not run wild or hang out with the wrong kids.

Mary was overboard strict with Brenda. Like prison strict.

It was obvious they got a big bump in the budget between seasons 1 and two for hair and wardrobe. Even Sandra looked somewhat dowdy in season 1.

The new additions to the show were terrible. Annoying child Alexandra and all the new characters that were supposed to help make up for Sandra being phased off the show in the last season. The ratings dropped drastically.

Gibbs, Hall and Martin were really threated by Jackee and her popularity and scene-stealing ways and treated her badly.

For more about Jackee and her conflicts with her 227 costars, please refer to my thread titled "Jackee Harry and 227".

Mary was a nag. She fussed about everything.

Ironic how she stole every scene from the leads on "The Jeffersons", and then had it done to her on "227".

I wonder if Mary did double anal?

Pearl’s pussy stunk.

i really enjoy watching it on Sundays on OWN. The first 2-3 seasons were good.

I love 227. it was one of my favorite 80s sitcoms.

Loved it. Because of Jackee. WHET?

she stars on a recent sitcom on the OWN network, r79.

good on her thanks r80

I must have loved this show for Jackee, as I do recall watching it as a kid. it must have been on before or after something I actually enjoyed. Jackee is a national treasure.

I loved Pearl’s line when they were talking about Sandra’s romance novel. Well it practically burned off my eyeballs!

James Stewart treated Hal Williams like crap on the set of his short lived venture on network television. It was a racial thing, as Stewart didn’t like black people. Hal said as much in an interview years ago. Stewart also mistreated the magnificent looking Woody Strode on the set of THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE.

Hal is a nice man, all around great guy who didn’t deserve to be treated like that.

Marla was a doll....

r85 i used to play with my Florene from the Jefferson's doll all of the time.

Were there Barbie-level ensembles available separately, r86? Dream House? Sporty Roadster?

Poor Rose died so young! And her husband had the aids. That tall guy.

Maaaaaaary!

What about me?

Countess Vaughan was annoying on 227. Irritating.

R91, I hated that little bitch. She added nothing to the show.

This show had a bad track record with bringing in new characters. The only one that was ok was Julian. The episodes of the last season without Jackee were mostly terrible.

R93 I do not remember Julian on that show.

Julian was the landlord that took over running the apartment building during the last season.

Julian was a big homo. Well at least he acted gay.

I don't think Julian was supposed to be gay, but the actor who played him, Paul Winfield, was gay.

Julian sparring with Mary was one of few good things about season 5.

The show was a vehicle for Marla (as creative, producer, star), but the Mary character was annoying and very one-note for the series run (and she got worse as the seasons wore on). The interplay and chemistry among actresses Jackee, Alaina, and Helen made the show enjoyable.

Hal Williams was hot and good as the henpecked husband. Regina King did well as Brenda (even though the character was weak).

It lasted about 2 seasons too long. Countess Vaughn's presence was the beginning of the end, and the remaining new characters (and actors) were terrible. Paul Winfield might have been good as the upstairs neighbor after Jackee.

Jackee made the show. The others weren't interesting to watch at all. Never liked Gibbs on the Jeffersons, either. I missed the mother-in-law on that show who was a hoot with Weezy on the first season. I guess she passed away and they brought Florence on.

They really hyped Toukie Smith during the last season, but both she and her character, Eva, were a total dud. She was a former model that had little acting experience and it really showed. Eva was no Sandra. She was dating Robert Deniro at that time also, which probably played a part in her getting cast on the show.

I liked Mary, Sandra, Pearl, Rose, Brenda, Calvin and Lester.

Pearl was an old battleaxe.

I’ve been watching it all afternoon on OWN. Love it but Mary is a bitch!

I love Sondra Clark!