The hotter they are, the more closeted or in denial they are. What are all these big, muscular men so afraid of identifying as gay or bisexual?
Why are buff masculine guys so "discreet" and on the "down low?"
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Tuesday at 2:21 AM|
They are not afraid they just don't want to be lumped in with the queens. The hottest guys never share photos online. #discreet.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/29/2015|
On social media and dating sites like Craiglist, it never fails that the hottest masculine dudes are "discreet" or "have a girlfriend." Frustrating.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/29/2015|
Generealization. But let's see it from another perspective. You rarely see muscular heterosexual men dating fat women. They tend to surround themselves with other muscular men because it puts them in a higher social status and only date fit women.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/29/2015|
Because their wives and girlfriends would find out if they acted any other way. Also, it's the perfect way to attract other men on the down low.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/29/2015|
Because they are cowardly and pathetic.
They try to project an outward appearance of strength, while on the inside, they're nothing but pure jelly yellow-bellied cowards.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/29/2015|
Love the lines of coke visible on the coffee table in OP's picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/29/2015|
[quote] Why are buff masculine guys so "discreet" and on the "down low?"
Not these guys
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/29/2015|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/25/2016|
Because a lot of them are married to women or have girlfriends? It seems to go hand in hand. If they can pass for straight and be part of that world and still get cock, most of them will take the path of least resistance.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||01/25/2016|
Heaven forbid they should be viewed as less than a "man".
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/25/2016|
This is the problem with datalounge. People post things even they don't believe in. That's called trolling. Also not funny. Too bad the funny people have gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/25/2016|
God, this horse died a looooong time ago, OP. Surely there are other irrelevant things to obsess over. Like underage pop stars or "Bi-sexual" tattooed "actors."
|by Anonymous||reply 12||01/25/2016|
Discrimination is everywhere. Think of the thousands of dollars you've lost or will over your lifetime due to this. It's real. Some people don't want to deal with that.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/25/2016|
Don't want to associated with effeminate men
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/17/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||07/01/2016|
Because they look at shows like "Modern Family" and realize that while the characters are *supposed* to be a caricature of gay men, that's actually what most of America thinks gay men are like and they don't want to be associated with.
Because when another gay guy comes up to them and squeals "heyyyy girlfriend!!!" they get the same look on their face that black lawyers and doctors do when another black guys comes up and shouts "Yo bruthah!! Sup my nig***?"
Because what R9 said
|by Anonymous||reply 16||07/01/2016|
They are hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 17||07/01/2016|
Because they have more to lose. They don't want to lose hot masculine privilege and street cred.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||07/01/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 19||07/01/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 20||07/01/2016|
I think the gay men and women who took bullets at Pulse are considered real "men". Not these a-holes.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||07/01/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 22||07/01/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 23||07/01/2016|
Alphas don't wanna be Betas
|by Anonymous||reply 24||07/01/2016|
Seth Green is gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||07/01/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 26||07/01/2016|
Cause they know out gays will not be withholding their holes anytime soon. Hell, most fem dudes will put up with just about anything as long as you give them good dick. No incentive to come out. Simple supply and demand at work.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||07/01/2016|
Widespread homophobia. If there was less of it, they probably wouldn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||07/01/2016|
I wish more dudes like this were out
|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/16/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/16/2016|
Why like him? R29
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/18/2016|
Straight people also talk about being discreet when trolling the internet for sleazy, bottom of the barrel sex. It all stems from shame. They're just not that into you.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/18/2016|
[quote] Because when another gay guy comes up to them and squeals "heyyyy girlfriend!!!" they get the same look on their face that black lawyers and doctors do when another black guys comes up and shouts "Yo bruthah!! Sup my nig***?"
That sounds about right.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/18/2016|
Because 'gay culture' elevates and symbolizes the OPPOSITE of the HOT masculinity that made them want dick in the first place.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/19/2016|
Because it's a form of drag and being "discreet" and "on the down low" is all part of the act. "I've never been with a guy before" and "I don't kiss" are also part of the dress code for the average "masculine" gay man with certain issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/19/2016|
No, I think acting flamboyantly effeminate and using the wrong gender pronouns for males is the drag act
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/19/2016|
R5 is correct, they're cowards....
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/19/2016|
[quote]No, I think acting flamboyantly effeminate and using the wrong gender pronouns for males is the drag act
There's a reason why gay men are shit at sports. Some gay men may not like to admit it, but facts is facts. I've never met a so-called "masculine" gay man who didn't seem to be trying very hard to appear so. It's a drag act. The flamboyantly effeminate is a very natural, easy and common type of gay man. Stereotypes exist for a reason, you know. You can build your muscles up, pretend to like sports and try to make your voice sound deeper, but you can't erase the gay face down at the gym.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/19/2016|
R38, perhaps you just hang around effeminate gay dudes. That's okay if that's who you are, but birds of a feather tend to flock together. Effeminate guys tend not to chill with masc or mainstream dudes
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/19/2016|
We hear you R38
Jason Collins Michael Sam Robbie Rogers Gareth Thomas
|by Anonymous||reply 40||11/19/2016|
r40 Yeah, those guys are shining examples of sporting achievement. Michael Sam and Robbie Rogers both at the top of their profession, right? Come on, it's hardly a controversial statement. Gay men are shit at sports and the ones who come out tend to be... whisper it... a bit shit at their sport. This idea that stating the obvious is wrong is ridiculous. Stating that black men tend to be better at athletics, say, or boxing, than their white counterparts isn't racist, it's just a fact. And recognizing that gay men are shit at sports on the whole is just stating a similar fact. Gay men just have to try much harder to excel at these kinds of masculine endeavors. The same way that "masculine" gay men have to try very hard to appear as they do. It must be a strain.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||11/19/2016|
Stereotypes exist mainly because when people want to classify people they go for what stands out but what stands out doesn't necessarily mean is the most prevalent feature. R38
Sexual orientation doesn't define gender expression nor does it determine your physical skills. Far from that. Gay men are very common in sports and very passionate like any other man.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/19/2016|
[quote]Gay men are very common in sports
Mostly in the performative sports, like diving, gymnastics and so on. Just as gay men tend to be very good at dancing, say, and the performing arts.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/19/2016|
R43, if you're fem, so be it. Just don't try to make effeminancy the norm for other gay men. Investmeny in that tired archaic stereotype is what makes so many bi and gay men stay closeted or avoid gay openly men altogether
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/19/2016|
[quote]R43, if you're fem, so be it. Just don't try to make effeminancy the norm for other gay men. Investmeny in that tired archaic stereotype is what makes so many bi and gay men stay closeted or avoid gay openly men altogether
I'm just stating the obvious. A stereotype can only be "tired" or archaic if it's no longer true but the stereotype remains because it appears to be based on a truism. Gay men are shit at sports. Whether I want that to be true or not is irrelevant.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||11/19/2016|
WTF? If the best athletes could come out and not suffer repercussions they would. There have been whispers and/or rumors about Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, JJ Watt, Gronkowski, Odell-Beckham Jr., David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo...world class athletes, ALL of them.
Toxic, shill, vitriol...oh, I don't know, like what DL folks are presently up to, are why no hyper masculine, successful athlete would dare come out. Teammates and team owners would be pissed off and highly resentful of the assured media circus and resulting distraction and negative spotlight.
There were strong leaks to the media several years ago that a group of NFL superstars were going to come out in masse...simultaneously. Aaron Rodgers and JJ Watt were said to be among the household names...one by one they all caved in to the pressure of dread of the inevitable shit storm soon to follow. We're still not at that time and place, where the average athlete, or masculine gay man feels comfortable and confident enough to burst open the closet door. Attitudes like some of you DL cunts here on display also ensure the closet is going to be remaining overcrowded. Thanks you mean queens.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||11/19/2016|
I think the idea that there are hordes of secret hyper-masculine gay men who are great at sports but are just too scared to come out, is a nice idea; but the fact is, most out gay men are neither good at sports nor interested in sports. Maybe it's cultural--though I think it's true of gay boys/teens who haven't had the chance to be swayed one way or the other by culture--and maybe it's genetic. Maybe in a hundred years time, white men will be equally proficient in sports like boxing and athletics as their black counterparts and gay men will as successful at all sports as their straight counterparts, but right now all evidence points to the opposite. Whether we think that's a good thing or a bad thing is irrelevant.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/19/2016|
Are your fingers frozen R47? You know, from texting from Siberia....no? I meant Moscow. Ivan baby, is that you? Didn't DL already inform you that your winter rations are now assured. You helped get your boy Trump elected.
Sweetie, R47. So glad you've emerged from the coma. It's called the internet. Look up...Google gay athlete rumors. Voila. Shocking huh? Also, Google former athletes who are now openly gay, or rumored to be gay. Troy Aikman, Drew Bledsoe, Tim Duncan...the hits just keep on coming. Are you jerking it Ivan? To some of the mentioned hottie jocks? Whose your favorite? You gotta stay warm somehow. Ivan, we DLers are curious..are YOU hot 'n hung? Tell Putin to shove it, Ivan baby, and defect your little hot Ruskie ass over here.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/19/2016|
[quote]Google gay athlete rumors
You do understand the difference between an online rumor and a fact, right? It probably wouldn't take long to find a site claiming that 9/11 was instigated by an alien race of malevolent badgers. It's called the internet.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||11/19/2016|
I guess no one is trying to tell you the stereotype is not true. What some of us are trying to tell you is that stereotypes are usually not representative of the entire or majority of a the population since they are based on what stands out and not so much on who prevalent stereotyoes are among the crowed being stereotyped. R45
This practice is almost always exerted by the majority as a way to claim monopoly on charactieristics they regard as superior and normal even though not all the population in the majority group shows those traits.
There absolutely no evidence to support your claim that gays are better at dancing or things like that. I'm horrible at dancing and have no inertetest in learning. I like rock music so dancing is not needed. Your claim stems from your own idea of what you think gay men are good at or found in.
Homosexual men are common in sports of all sorts just like any other type of man. It has always been like that and it will continue to be like that. And then you will find them in science, arts, everywhere. It's a personal inclination; not something determine by the gender you are attracted to.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||11/19/2016|
R6: The rolled up dollar bill and mattress on the wall almost represent the whole of the holy tetralogy of cokewhoredom. All that's missing is a pack of cigarettes.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||11/19/2016|
[quote]Homosexual men are common in sports of all sorts just like any other type of man.
And black men are no better at boxing or athletics than straight men and the world is a rainbow and my pillow is a dream, etc. Fair enough. x
|by Anonymous||reply 52||11/19/2016|
Homosexual and bi guys are disproportionately better at ALL tasks. We are the elite, going back to ancient times. Homo/bi men were always among the best warriors and athletes. It's WAY past time to drop the fem mannerisms and speech. NOT attractive, and works against our rights and acceptance. FACT.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||11/19/2016|
What R53 said.
Gays who want to be effeminate should probably just transition and leave the rest of us alone. They'll likely get a lot more sex as women. (Though admittedly easy when your baseline is "none.")
|by Anonymous||reply 54||11/19/2016|
I don't excel in sports although when I was kid I was noted for how fast I was at running and skilled to climb up trees. Then asthma kicked in and I refrained from very active physical exertion. Now my asthma is dormant and I try to do some exercise to stay active and relatively healthy and, of course, shaping a little bitthe body.
I'm an ectomorph and I lack exceptional physical strength, but I find guys stronger than me attractive.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||11/19/2016|
Many ectomorphs are good at sports. Basketball players are often ectos
|by Anonymous||reply 56||11/19/2016|
Are these his deep thoughts? I can't tell if this is real or a joke.
This is is who we are. This is is my social group. We are gays living in big metropolitan areas heavily involved in the gay scene. We all know each other. We all have big muscles and violent abs and handsome faces and disposable income and innumerable sexual partners, each one hotter than the next. We adopt variations of heteronormative looks (some of us are bros, some are jocks, some are simply worked-out guys next door), which we document incessantly on Facebook, Instagram and all your other surrounding news feeds. We post pictures of us shirtless, standing together next to expensive hotel swimming pools, and sometimes we’ll even quote Mean Girls and tag the picture with, “You can’t sit with us.” We go to the best parties, take the best drugs, and have VIP tickets for the best events. We don’t even pay for them. Are you jealous of us?
In order to attract the right kind of attention, we will publicly maintain that this isn’t who we really are. We don’t want this. We’ll say that we really want to settle down. We’ll say that we want to start a family. Who wants to be a messed up, single gay guy, going from gay bar to gay pride, we’ll say, with nothing of substance in his life? We will very carefully curate our public image to show how wholesome we are, and will balance out the pictures of our beautiful, half-naked friends, with pictures of our baby nephews taken in bulk in the two hours every six months that we get to see them.
We fall in love with each other and we move in together, and retire from the scene for a few months, maybe a couple of years, because we have found happiness, and we don’t need this any longer; we’re over it. Then we fuck things up for fun or because we’re bored, and we start going out again and seeing all the people we know – most of them are still there at a different stage of their own cycle – and we fall right back into place and we do it all over again.
We can have this forever. All that changes is that each time you go back there’s one more person at the party that you have to avoid making eye contact with, or dancing too close to, because in the very recent past you destroyed their soul a little bit or they destroyed yours
|by Anonymous||reply 57||11/19/2016|
North (is that his first or his last name?) is figuring out what men in their late 20s have always figured out-- youth is fleeting. Usually happens when the next generation of 22 year olds shows up.
He writes better than most, but nothing overly insightful.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||11/19/2016|
R16 nails it and I'm speaking from experience.
Sure there is an element of self-loathing, as true change happens and stereotypes dissipate when people say "fuck the rules" and be themselves. But the ones on here who just ridicule these guys are not looking at it objectively.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||11/19/2016|
Whether we are underrepresented or not in professional sports is besides the point, if you ask me.
Some people are born with genetic traits that will predispose them towards athletic performance. Sure.
But boys grow up and become better athletes through trial and error. Improving. Doing the same activity 10,000 times. I don't know many gay men who were sufficiently interested in baseball or football to do this. I know of 2 men who played high school and college football. I know many more who swam, ice-skated, and did competitive gymnastics. These all required many, many hours of training, body development, etc.
My point is that straight men aren't all born athletes with some gene that we're missing. They just spent more time playing ball when I was reading, watching movies, riding my bicycle, memorizing lyrics, looking at architecture, etc. This is a question of experience, not some absolute of "masculine" vs "feminine."
|by Anonymous||reply 60||11/19/2016|
This thread was wrapped up @ r27. NEXT!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||11/19/2016|
My dating experience from Craigslist, sports bars, dating apps, and even straight clubs reveals there are vast numbers of masculine bi and gay dudes that are closeted or don't even identify as gay at all. My personal encounters include mechanics, football players, lady's men with four baby mamas, rappers, coaches, country good ole boys, dudebros, thugs, DL bruthas, Marines, and construction workers. They are authentically masculine and blend in with mainstream society.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||11/19/2016|
JFC every year the list of labels gets longer and longer. You are all sick in the head! Let people do whatever the fuck they want. Even if they end up identifying publicly (something nobody has to!) with whatever label you feel they should identify with, they probably still won't be interested in you. So stop being such a busybody and move on with your life.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||11/19/2016|
Flashback: Black Is Beautiful
|by Anonymous||reply 64||11/19/2016|
Actually, an athletic body and muscles as signfifiers of male beauty are a homosexual concept and common aspiration among men attracted to men in times when homosexuality accepted in societies.
Most of what we call masculine and ideal male beauty are pretty much homosexual achievements and concepts; heterosexuality and heterosexual men were pretty much absent in this regard so you can hardly call all this heteronormative.
Things like bodybuilding where male beauty is associated with muscles and muscles signify masculinity is mentioned by many scholars as appropriated by heterosexual men from homosexual men.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||11/19/2016|
People squawking about heteronormality are usually annoying SJWs
|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/19/2016|
The current ideal masculine body, straight and gay, is a creation of Bruce Weber via his A&F and CK ad campaigns
|by Anonymous||reply 67||11/19/2016|
I don't know who he is and what his contribution to the concept of ideal male beauty is, but the athletic/muscular body as ideal male beauty goes way more back in time to ancient Greece and what it is known as the Greek Body Ideal. R67
|by Anonymous||reply 68||11/19/2016|
Bruce Weber makes beautiful photographs of beautiful men, but he shouldn't be anyone's role model as a healthy, self-accepting gay man. He doesn't even publicly identify as gay (neither does Nan, his wife).
|by Anonymous||reply 69||11/19/2016|
If I was a buff dude (or even a good looking woman), I would try to get as much mileage from that as I could. Being openly homosexual is not an advantage in this society. People who look different get dogged. It's sad but that's how it is. Plus everyone wants the buff "masculine" male. I don't blame them.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||11/19/2016|
And R68 is correct. Physique Pictorial Magazine, Steve Reeves gladiator movies, even silent films all contributed to/are evidence of our current ideal notions of male beauty.
Bruce Weber didn't invent anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||11/19/2016|
The current male aesthetic buff dudebro culture is quite cool with Overt Homoerotic adoration. It's just not okay with using the label "gay."
|by Anonymous||reply 72||11/19/2016|
R71, I'd say the 80s action hero movies were big factors in the buff revolution. And Soloflex
|by Anonymous||reply 73||11/19/2016|
R58 North Morgan, formerly known as London Preppy, is in his mid 30s.
Old enough to have realized that it's a fool's game, that everyone loses eventually.
He's, sometimes, a great essayist.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||11/19/2016|
Steve Young is a big fag.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||11/19/2016|
Grow up r75.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||11/19/2016|
R69 I have no idea what you're talking about!!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||11/19/2016|
R50 is right except for saying nobody dances to rock music.
I guess the dweeb has never been to a rock concert. Don't tell your favorite rock musician there's no dancing.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||11/19/2016|
R65 = deranged true believer.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||11/19/2016|
There is this sort of contradiction with some gay guys: we all like muscular men but we hate them when they reject us. I think that's basically what is happening.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||11/19/2016|
I never hate them
|by Anonymous||reply 81||11/20/2016|
[quote]Bruce Weber makes beautiful photographs of beautiful men, but he shouldn't be anyone's role model as a healthy, self-accepting gay man. He doesn't even publicly identify as gay (neither does Nan, his wife).
Well, learn something new everyday. I had no idea Weber was married to a woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||11/20/2016|
This North Morgan fellow is very impressed with himself and his tragic lifestyle. I have never wanted some vapid, showy lifestyle and don't understand people who try to glamorize it. When I was young, I knew I wanted a partner and quickly settled down and couldn't be happier. Can you be discreet and have an Instagram account, by the way?
The gays in sports question is simple. Given the fact that only three percent of any of the players are gay and only ten percent of any pool of players are 'names' that anyone other than rabid fans would know much about. It would be wrong to think that there would be more than one or two nationally known gay players, out or not, at a time. I guess right now those would be JJ Wyatt and Aaron Rogers, if rumors are to be believed.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||11/20/2016|
Baby Jesus, spare me ever meeting any fool who thinks it is clever to give the finger in a photo.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||11/20/2016|
You simply cannot do numbers and claim what percentage of gay men are found in sports. There is no way to know that unless all of them are open about their sexual orienttion.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||11/20/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 86||11/20/2016|
Like most masculine men, they and the other masculine men around them hate femininity, so it's hard for them to be openly gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||11/20/2016|
This thread is catnip for the Trumpsters.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||11/20/2016|
R87, femininity and being gay are not the same or necessarily related
|by Anonymous||reply 89||11/20/2016|
R89 Meanwhile back in the real world....
|by Anonymous||reply 90||11/20/2016|
Most of us like muscles because they speak of male nature, they emphasise the typical aspects of the male body that we like, but when a muscle guy rejects us, even in respectful terms, it hurts because you feel as less than him. As a compensation for being rejected by the muscle guy some gays try to call him names and spread the idea that they are queens deep inside, that wy they try to regain their self-esteem tht was hurt by the rejection.
It is the same phenomenon when heterosexual women are rejceted by a an and then, in orde to regain their ego they spread the idea that the man is gay and that is the reason why she got rejected.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||11/21/2016|
Boy, there are lots of bitter, effeminate fatties bitching on this thread.
Masculine, muscular bros can act whatever way they want.
Bros are not seeking bitter fags approval. You do not exist in their world. You are completely irrelevant.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||11/29/2016|
Because they are douchebags, as r92 so handily proves.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||11/29/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 94||11/29/2016|
This thread is about a year old.
Someone revives it every few months so that the femmes and femme-haters can have at each other and then it goes dormant again.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||11/29/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 96||11/29/2016|
R95 It's the jealous fags who slag the buff, masculine guys who anger me.
Shrill fags are embarrassing themselves when they spew such unwarranted hate like R5.
Let bros be bros.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||11/30/2016|
Uh ok dude
|by Anonymous||reply 98||11/30/2016|
|by Anonymous||reply 99||01/29/2017|
|by Anonymous||reply 100||02/11/2017|
Because gay male culture is largely so blatantly effeminate and unmanly
|by Anonymous||reply 101||03/08/2017|
Ugh, the bro queen is the one bumping this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||03/08/2017|
Why would they be open if they are presumed straight?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||08/12/2017|
Same with the feminine lesbians.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||08/12/2017|
r16, yes ! and young gay guys emulate this behavior.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||08/12/2017|
Because, like us all, they were raised in an superior vs. inferior enviroment where you are supposed to do your best to be superior to as many people and groups as possible. They don't want to risk their alpha male status.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||08/12/2017|
Bingo to r106! Few are willing to give up privilege
|by Anonymous||reply 107||08/12/2017|
R107 which is weird because I had the best genuine straight male reaction when I just asserted myself, including my homosexuality as part of myself for them to accept or at least overlook. Sure this wouldn't work against the tried and true homophobic men, but that usually wouldn't matter if I have the room on my side anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||08/12/2017|
How do you "assert" your homosexuality?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||08/12/2017|
r109, he prances and gushes over Mariah
|by Anonymous||reply 110||08/12/2017|
That's what most guys want to avoid
|by Anonymous||reply 111||08/12/2017|
|by Anonymous||reply 112||08/12/2017|
Oh, brother, some of you are so dense, "discreet" and on the "down low" = fantasy, it's that simple.
Most of these DL guys ARE gay and out. but when they advertise for sex, they use key words like "DL" "discreet" "not into the scene" "married" or "girlfriend is out of town" etc to entice the gullible gay guys into answering their ad thinking that they are seducing the "straight" guy.
Example, recently I was cruising craigslist and I saw a post/photo of a friend/fuck buddy of mine. In his post, he claimed that his girlfriend was out for a girlfriend's night out and he had the place to himself and so was looking for some quick DL sex.
I'm like, what the fuck? Curious, I call him and tell him I saw his ad and what's with the fake girlfriend? He told me yeah it's pretty ridiculous, but every time he uses the "girlfriend/wife is out of town" the response is 10x more than just a post that says gay guy looking for another gay guy for sex.
In the gay community, there's a segment of self-loathing, pathetic gay guys who think that snaring a "straight" guy make themselves more desirable.
For fuck sake's its called MARKETING!
|by Anonymous||reply 113||08/12/2017|
r41 needs to go back to the KKK or the GOP.
She's pushing a stereotype as if it were absolutely true. Even she should know that stereotypes are just stereotypes and don't apply to everyone.
And the reason you think gay athletes "are shit at their sport" is because most of them are not out and haven't been since ancient Rome.
So don't speak with your head up your ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||08/12/2017|
When are you queens going to wake up to the fact that a bunch of Instagram hos have descended upon this site, started threads about themselves, and are simply begging for social media followers?
I thought self-promotion was verboten on this site.
I flame and freak all these threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||08/12/2017|
R115, and I love it man! They are so hot and inspire me to go the gym and lift and take creatine every day. No such thing as Too many hot buff folks.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||08/12/2017|
Thanks to social media and social networks, brosexuals have a burgeoning subculture wherein they can opt out of traditional and overtly gay identity and culture and only fraternize and mess around with other discreet bros. They are sometimes not so discreet about their interest in other guys, but they don't identify as gay nonetheless.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||08/12/2017|
Love how they are drooling over guys' physique with words like "beast," "hot physique, bro," and "Alpha." Just never utter the word "gay" around them.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||08/12/2017|
"Gay" is clearly triggering to *cough cough* 'brosexuals'.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||08/12/2017|
And Brosexual and Mascbro is clearly triggering to effeminates
|by Anonymous||reply 120||08/12/2017|
And 'homosexual' is clearly triggering to deluded basement dwellers who think they're mascbros.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||08/12/2017|
R119, duh, of course it is
|by Anonymous||reply 122||08/12/2017|
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY
|by Anonymous||reply 123||08/12/2017|
Because most men are afraid of being associated with anyone perceived as unmanly or fem.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||08/13/2017|
Case in point, the "straight" boys in the photo in r117 is from the gay beach in Ipanema, Rio de Janeiro. Believe me, I used to live nearby and recognized the view.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||08/16/2017|
Gee, if it wasn't for your incite R125, I would've never guessed those bros were 'mos. It's not like the speedos, overly plucked eyebrows or their bodies gave it away or anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||08/16/2017|
Still I doubt they identify as "gay."
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|by Anonymous||reply 128||08/16/2017|
I do see a lot of girls with these guys and think, "She knows her boyfriend is gay, right?" Especially when they have on like tight skinny jeans and no socks. If a guy is showing off his ass, he's gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||08/16/2017|
IIRC photo at r17 is a pic of the USA gymnastic team in Rio for the Olympic Games in 2016
|by Anonymous||reply 130||08/17/2017|
R129, you will be lead astray a lot today if you actually believe that myth.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/17/2017|
Males who are masculine or perceived as such are privileged. They are not gonna willingly give up that privilege to be publicly identified with something viewed as unmanly or inferior.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||08/18/2017|
There is this very effeminate gay guy on YT who always talks about DL men he dates to then find out they have a girlfriend.
He usually accuses them of being gay, but he is very effeminate both in behaviour and appearance that is eveident he tries to evoke a woman and he uses that as the bait to attrcat heterosexual men who fetishise femininity who only want something steamy and quick with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||08/18/2017|
WHy do gay guys on DL pretend as if we live in a world where homosexuality and gay identity are accepted? Because we do not, we should never marvel that many or most fluid, bi, and gay men are closeted or in denial. It's to be expected
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/18/2017|
THEy DONT want to be associated with effeminate or stereotypically gay dudes
|by Anonymous||reply 135||03/02/2018|
Yeah, r117 is the 2016 US men’s gymnastics team. The question is whether they knew it was a beach and/or went there intentionally.
Jake “I married my frau young” Dalton has always seemed like a deeply self-loathing closet case to me.
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|by Anonymous||reply 137||03/02/2018|
R136, and you base that on what evidence?
|by Anonymous||reply 138||03/02/2018|
R138 The “Look how straight I am with my wife and how much I love Jeebus!!!!1!1!1” types always end up gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||03/02/2018|
Except that’s a wild lie
|by Anonymous||reply 140||03/02/2018|
It’s a bi dilemma.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||08/11/2018|
Because they still want to get pussy.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||08/11/2018|
Right on R113
I swear I was going to post the same thing, almost word for word.
And yeah, guilty of that myself in my younger years, especially when I was traveling for work and on my own in a hotel.
"Masc bi jock. 25, 6', 175#. Traveling for work. Play when on the road, GF has no idea. DDF and plan to stay that way. Chill and discreet. Looking for same for NSA no recip oral."
Throw that up on CL and the hot guys would come out of the woodwork
|by Anonymous||reply 143||08/11/2018|
^^And not only where quality and quantity way above normal, many guys would press to see if they could get something more than just them giving a blow job. And I'd tell them "don't usually go there bro. Depends on the vibe."
And if they were as hot in person as in the email, then "the vibe" would be be there for course and they'd be all flattered that they'd made the cut.
Like R113 said-- MARKETING.
Amazed you all don't know that.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||08/11/2018|
were not where
|by Anonymous||reply 145||08/11/2018|
DL will be lamenting the demise of CL for years to come.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||08/11/2018|
Same tricks work on Grindr R148
Though Grindr's definitely jumped the shark too
|by Anonymous||reply 147||08/11/2018|
It's 'discrete' not 'discreet'
|by Anonymous||reply 148||08/11/2018|
Real bros would never go on a stereotypical side like Grindr. It’s the antithesis of what attracts bros.
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|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/11/2018|
You'd be surprised. Far more popular with those guys that CL
That's because Grindr is way more discreet than any website0 as you don't need to use a real email to sign up and can just delete it from your phone when done.
CL required those guys to create a separate email account that they needed to check and then required them to remember to clear their cookies and all that when they were done.
Grindr, I am told, is a much easier play.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/11/2018|
[quote]Because it's a form of drag and being "discreet" and "on the down low" is all part of the act. "I've never been with a guy before" and "I don't kiss"...
"but I take dick up my stretched hole like a champ!"
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/11/2018|
Naw, if they are on Grinder, they are fake bros. The app doesn’t even have a bro sensibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/11/2018|
with the exception of conjoined twins, all men are " discrete"; few are truly "discreet"
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/11/2018|
Because nobody really likes the gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/11/2018|
R155 beat me to it
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/11/2018|
OP, dear. Listen to me. When you grow up, you will stop caring what other people think regarding how relationships 'appear' to them, or how people 'act' in front of strangers. And than includes most especially the opinions and impressions of other gay men. We don't all think the same way. We aren't all attracted to the same types of people or have the same expectations about how people should act or be paired off. We don't need the approval of others. That's the beautiful thing about being together in a relationship. It really can be all about just the two of you. Fuck everyone else.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||08/11/2018|
[quote] Its discreet
You're obviously not masculine buff or a bro
|by Anonymous||reply 160||08/11/2018|
There is a difference between discreet and closeted. Some people just don't like attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||08/11/2018|
“Discreet” is widely used to mean closeted in male4male ads and forums. Likewise, words such as “lowkey,” “DL,” or “private.”
|by Anonymous||reply 162||08/11/2018|
R143 That's so weird to me. I wouldn't hook up with a guy who's cheating on his partner no matter what the sex of said partner is. Not because of high morals, but because what the fuck, I won't be anyone's dirty little secret they'd be ashamed to introduce to their buddies. Number one or fuck off.
R142 Yep a lot of women will get horrified if they find out you are bi. It's a myth that women are less homophobic than men. They just aren't as loud about it.
R162 Well I guess I'd be discreet too if I had to troll for sex on apps.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||08/11/2018|
R163, I guess if it takes a selfish reason not to mess with people in committed relations, so be it. But having morals about it is even better. Doing something that could hurt others should be the main incentive not to do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||08/11/2018|
Because they are ashamed to be associated with gay stereotypes, gay culture, and most openly gay men, who tend to display nonmasculine or unmanly attributes.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||08/12/2018|
[quote] And recognizing that gay men are shit at sports on the whole is just stating a similar fact. Gay men just have to try much harder to excel at these kinds of masculine endeavors. The same way that "masculine" gay men have to try very hard to appear as they do. It must be a strain.
So many men are duped into thinking they're straight because they're masculine or gay because they're feminine because of this bullshit notion.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||08/12/2018|
[quote]It must be a strain.
Is it? You're wither a fag or a woman so if you're not a fag like us your opinion doesn't count.
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|by Anonymous||reply 169||08/12/2018|
[quote] [R143] That's so weird to me. I wouldn't hook up with a guy who's cheating on his partner no matter what the sex of said partner is. Not because of high morals, but because what the fuck, I won't be anyone's dirty little secret they'd be ashamed to introduce to their buddies. Number one or fuck off.
Not sure I'm following you chief.
If you're hooking up with a guy in a hotel room for a quick fuck, he's not going to introduce you to his buddies. He's probably not even going to tell you his real name. Neither of you is planning to see the other again.
Hookups aren't relationships. Or they're relationships that last an hour or two lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||08/12/2018|
R164 You say it as if people in committed relationships have no willpower or intentions of their own. If someone is cheating, it's not because they were offered sex. It's because they agreed to it. If your partner is hot and charming, he'll be offered sex all the time anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||08/12/2018|
R170 Even if it was really good sex? I don't know, I had sex with people I only just met, but never the kind of sex you describe. Fake name? What for? Sounds tiring.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||08/12/2018|
Jesus Christ...are you 12, OP?
|by Anonymous||reply 173||08/13/2018|
The terms masc4masc, mascbro, bromosexuals, bromo, bro job, brosexual are completely ridiculous. They most certainly sound like terms favoured by twelve year-olds.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||08/13/2018|
That's just your opinion OP. I've never found that to be the case. And I've been around for quite a while.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||08/13/2018|
Anyone who says: He's buff! sounds queeny.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||08/13/2018|
Are your time traveling from the year 1957 R172?
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|by Anonymous||reply 178||08/14/2018|
[quote]Anyone who says: He's buff! sounds queeny.
Can we get a list of requirements for keeping your dick please?
|by Anonymous||reply 179||08/14/2018|
Because you fkin effeminate marys give us such a bad rep. No one wants to be associated with you.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||08/14/2018|
Cause they think most openly gay guys are embarrassing effeminates
|by Anonymous||reply 181||12/21/2018|
Matt Dillon had plenty of homos drooling over him in his hey day. Matt Dillon was NOT muscular at all he was totally slim. He was very masculine though. For me that's totally hot - a totally slim tough guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||12/22/2018|
Most men don’t want to be associated with divas, the Gold Girls, draq queens, calling males “she/her,” or any type of male effeminancy. It’s about being perceived as a strong macho Alpha male, not a beta or fem.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||12/22/2018|
Because they're lying. They're catfishing. They swipe some hot guys pic and pretend to be him. They "discreet" and "dl" part means they don't have to have many pics and will not have to meet you so they're ruse can be found out,
|by Anonymous||reply 184||12/22/2018|
They want to marry a woman, and don’t want to ruin their chances with women by having a record of involvement with men
|by Anonymous||reply 185||12/22/2018|
Because they don’t want to be viewed as unmanly
|by Anonymous||reply 186||03/01/2019|
[quote]The hotter they are, the more closeted or in denial they are.
You don't go out much, do you OP?
Handsome masculine, and mascular, men are common.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||03/01/2019|
Because they are embarrassed by most openly gay guys and don’t want to be tainted by them
|by Anonymous||reply 188||06/04/2019|
Most masculine guys don’t want to be associated with nonmasculine or guys who are stereotypically gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||11/04/2019|
Most men do not want to sacrifice their “man card” or privilege by being associated with gay identity
|by Anonymous||reply 190||01/24/2020|
They're still deluding themselves into equating being penetrated with being female.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||01/24/2020|
“Listen… I mess with dudes, but I’m not out there with it. I’m not gonna hold you but I’m really attracted to you. If you are cool with me not being out there, we can mess around. I’m not looking for anything serious right now. If that isn’t what you’re looking for, I understand and that’s cool too.”
|by Anonymous||reply 192||05/13/2020|
They don’t want to associate with conventionally gay identity, which is perceived as effeminate
|by Anonymous||reply 193||05/15/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 194||01/08/2021|
I like guys but....
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