Do you consider Rita Ora White?

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I do not consider Rita Ora.

Thanks for the photo R2, you confirmed my suspicion that in OPs photo she was being done up to look black.

She's a British singer-- I had to Google it.

I thought maybe she was a light skinned black girl/mixed race.

[quote] I do not consider Rita Ora.

Is she related to Ore-Ida?

[Quote]Thanks for the photo [R2], you confirmed my suspicion that in OPs photo she was being done up to look black.

Um, I'm the OP and I posted both pictures. She hasn't been "done up" (what a peculiar accusation) to look Black in the first one. Take away the lip gloss and you can see she's barlely wearing any makeup. There are also tons of video and pictures you can google that show she doesn't look like the average White girl.

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She's a mulatto, or Puerto rican, which is a mulatto who speaks Spanish.

Who cares? Shes fugly no talent trash.

[Quote]She's a mulatto, or Puerto rican, which is a mulatto who speaks Spanish.

And how, pray tell, did she wind up in Kosovo?

I don't consider her at all.

She looks white in R2 and R8s photos, sort of southern Italian or Greek, but definitely white.

In the OPs photo she looks black.

R11 thinks there are no airplanes that go to Kosovo.

She definitely looks mixed race, not at all White. Her presence would have caused a lot of whispering and challenges for her to identify herself at my college.

R15 went to college in Mississippi 1873.

I'm Dutch and have the same hair color and complexion as Henry Cavill. My blonde haired fellow Dutch citizens often ask me what country I'm 'really' from, while in the US nobody thinks I look even remotely 'ethnic'. I guess, that in countries like Sweden or Finland, even most WASP US citizens would not be considered fully white. I always get the sense that the blondes in Europe secretly hate dark-haired/dark-eyed people, even if they are white. Maybe it's the legacy of WW2 Nazi occupation.

[Quote][R11] thinks there are no airplanes that go to Kosovo.

So, this is your theory? She is really Puerto Rican and somehow got to Kosovo by plane?

LOL.😄

[Quote][R15] went to college in Mississippi 1873.

Yes, R16, People in this day and age don't care about race (sarcasm).

Maybe she's some kind of Mediterranean quadroon. Or perhaps Betty White can explain it better at the link below.

The level of promotion behind this one is extremely tiresome and needs to come to an end in 2016. No one is fucking interested in climbing aboard the 'Rita Ora is a Thing' wagon

Damn, who gives a fuck about this talent-free piece of SHIT?

What a very American argument.

I don't consider her white. She looks like she has some black in her regardless of what she says.

I consider her half "attention," and half "whore."

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Because she takes after the mother.

Is she related to Freddie Smith?

"White" is extremely narrow and she's only sometimes falling within its bounds.

It's because of the clothes, make-up and bleached hair. Give her a perm, a pair of oversized glasses and a prairie dress, and she'd look much whiter.

Similar to Mila Kunis.

Most peoples perception of race is completely visual, she may be "White" racially but I can bet you that most White people don't see themselves in her and that she's been perceived to be another race her entire life. Nobody looks at you and see's your DNA/lineage they just see your skin and facial features. So i'll consider her whatever she wants to be called, but society probably doesn't view her as "White" never will and probably never did.

This guy is an actor from a show I was watching, I assumed he was Indian. upon googling him turns out he's 100% greek. He could argue that he is "European" or even "White" by lineage but it doesn't matter because no one will ever view him that way. Race really is skin deep and genetics are crazy. Makes you realize how irrelevant "race" is.

I consider her irrelevant.

It doesn't matter where they're from. We all know what they are, and how whiney they are, and how it's all our fault their lives are shit.

Best litmus test: ask yourself what would happen to this individual if he or she wandered into the middle of a White supremacy rally?

Rita, gurl you in danger.

OP is wrong wrong wrong---what kind of make-up ISN'T she wearing in that picture?

In her school pic, she looks like an average Eastern Med, and a not-so-average Albanians. She looks even more like a n Armenians or Georgians. In the OP, she looks Surinamese or like a light, surgerized black girl.

Mila Kunis is as white as they come.

So, is there a hierarchy like Norwegians,English & Germans at the top and Mediterraneans, Latinos and Slavs at the bottom?

[quote] So, is there a hierarchy like Norwegians,English & Germans at the top and Mediterraneans, Latinos and Slavs at the bottom?

Yes, much like there is in East Asia.

[quote]Mila Kunis is as white as they come.[/quote]

Here she is without makeup (yikes) lol although she looks very different, she still doesn't look very "White"

The nose and lips and more characteristically Black than White.

Nonsense, r43. In r42, she looks like a very plain Arab girl who's too proud to get surgery. A lot of Turks, Georgians, and Armos, and smaller percentages of Albanians, look Arab.

R44 Most White people don't view Arabs as white.

I have never even considered Rita Ora.

R46, you're the third one on this thread.

She looks like she might stink.

Like James Franco, R48?

She's white-adjacent.

My first thought was "high yellow", but why do you folks capitalize White like that?

[quote] She's white-adjacent.

Like James Franco, R50?

What isn't white about James Franco?

R53, this is DL. James Franco is considered white adjacent on DL.

James Franco has bad body odor?

She looks like she uses an EBT card.

I absolutely love exotic mixed women, but I am not at all attracted to Rita Ora. I'm not sure what that means, but her looks leave me cold.

I knew she was Albanian, but I like a few others upthread believe that there is something else thrown into the mix. And I don't mean African or any extraction thereof. IF she were African mixed with Albanian I think she would look much better. No...there's something Asian-ish/Pino-ish happening IMO.

She's no Beyonce. no matter how hard Jay tries to make that happen.

[quote] James Franco has bad body odor?

People on DL say he looks unwashed and dirty like Tom Hardy.

R56 I doubt it. Her father is quite rich.

R57 Rita is no beauty queen but she looks a hell of a lot better than Beyonce, I mean that woman is in her early 30s and she already looks like a withered old hag. I see cuter mixed/black girls everyday in LA.

R60 You must really hate women.

R60 speaks the truth.

Did you know some Arab muslims are black? Maybe this sort of thing happened in Albania. I heard they are muslims too. Like this Rita girl?

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Beyoncé in the modern day ugly as hell

I have no "theory" R18, because I don't care enough about this nobody to think up one. But I do know that it is possible for people of all races to travel any place in the world that they care to and can afford to, a concept that seems to elude you for some strange reason. Perhaps life in Appalachia did not prepare you for such truths.

Sure people care about race R19, but "whispering and challenges for her to identify herself " is ridiculous and melodramatic and you know it.

[Quote]Sure people care about race [R19], but "whispering and challenges for her to identify herself " is ridiculous and melodramatic and you know it.

No, it's not. Happens all the time. There were several people at my school with ambiguous ethnicity, and I personally witnessed some of them being cornered and asked to divulge their heritage. Go slither back under your rock if you don't want to hear the truth.

R68, keep repeating it, perhaps eventually you'll convince yourself it's true.

who keeps trying to make this non-entity happen?

[Quote][R68], keep repeating it, perhaps eventually you'll convince yourself it's true.

And you do the same, asshat.

[quote]Did you know some Arab muslims are black? Maybe this sort of thing happened in Albania. I heard they are muslims too. Like this Rita girl?

Her dad is muslim, her mum catholic and she is an attention whore.

This is what I find fascinating about this place. So many of you grow up in these small, sheltered little towns and then you come here and ask silly questions either because you don't know better or just to rile people up. The truth is, if you traveled outside of Bumblestop Flyoverland, you would see a world that isn't just black and white. For most of the world, white doesn't mean snow white and black doesn't mean coal black. There are many shades and variations and mixes along the way. But we live in a world now where we've turned ethnicities into races. If we must categorize, then most Hispanics, Persians, etc. etc. etc. would go into the Caucasian category.

She's Whiteish.

R74, the proper term on DL is "white adjacent".

May I be excused to say 'Next door neighbour to White' R75

No, R76. You must use DL-sanctioned terms at all times.

Will do, lardass at R71!

Only in YOUR mind R73

I like blue.

I was molested.

Oh, and it's "Iranian" not "Persian".

If she's Albanian, she's likely Muslim

Albania! Albania! You border on the Adriatic.

I'm surprised Freddie Smith hasn't been mentioned in this thread.

The problem is when you're stuck in the white-black paradigm, things get very confused fast when you have to deal with the real world

While we're on this topic, I am very disappointed to find out that Arianna Grande, who has been heavily promoted as Latina, is just some Italian trash from Florida.

It explains her lack of manners, though.

R87, Frankie Grande is white adjacent.

Who the hell is Rita Ora White? I know. Like she'll ever have a career like Liz Taylor's or Lena Horne's. Here today and gone (mercifully) gone tomorrow.

I'm surprised at how many people on this thread are dancing around the question of whether they personally consider her white or not, but in real life, it's always a whole different story.

[quote]Rita Ora White

Any relation?

I love you, R91.

[quote]If we must categorize, then most Hispanics, Persians, etc. etc. etc. would go into the Caucasian category.

On what planet? Most white people do not consider those groups to be "one of them".

I always thought she was a light skinned black woman.

Mexican are white.

Here's a video interview where the dj clearly states fans have been asking about her ethnicity.

R95 Mexicans are not even white adjacent, much less white. They are as brown as your downtown round crown.

Black and white are races while Latino, Asian, and Native American are ethnicities.

So a person can be Latino and either black or white. For example, Ricky Martin is a white Latino. Dominicans tend to be black Latinos.

As an Albanian, Ora is considered white.

End of discussion.

I am still trying to figure out how some family got away with telling that guy that Bulgarians are not white.

R98 true, but the vast majority of Latinos are mixed race, and most Mexicans are as brown as your downtown round crown!

[quote]Did you know some Arab muslims are black?

Arabs run the spectrum from white (Syrians, Lebanese or most North Africans) to black (Sudanese and Mauritanians ). However, most Arabs would be considered white in the U.S. A few famous Arab Americans include: Steve Jobs, Donna Shalala, Ralph Nader, John Sununu, Casey Kaesam, Kathy Najimy, Tony Shahlhoub, Paul Anka, Paul Jabbara, Hoda Kotb, Shannon Elizabeth ... you get the picture.

Rita Ora is Albanian and therefore white as can be seen at r2. But she's clearly been made to look blackER in OP's photo because of the demographic for her "music" which is mostly urban.

Would you consider Ralph Macchio white?

He's about the same skin tone as most Mexican boys.

Yes r103.

SJWs don't, OP, and blast her accordingly.

SJWs do, OP, and blast her accordingly.

R103, listen to R104.

R103 thinks the whole world is blind.

It's OK, R103. Some of these DL queens are flyovers who've never seen a Latino person outside of TV or the one indigenous family in their small town.

There are a lot of Latinos who are the same skin tone or lighter than Macchio. If you live in LA, you know this.

R109 no one is denying that, but they are not the majority of Mexicans, get real.

Besides R109, you have to realize that looking white does not make a person white, ask any black person who is able to "pass."

Likewise, the darkest Italian with the deepest tan added to him still isn't black.

R109, the vast majority of Mexican (not Halfxican) boys in LA look like one of the ones in r104's picture.

[quote]Once in school, a fellow student made a comment that this dark Italian girl was not White, but latin.

Old money WASPs in the US do not consider Italians white.

It wasn't too long ago that being a catholic in the US was a big deal - It was a huge deal that Kennedy was a catholic.

Italians were at the bottom of the pecking order at one time (blacks and asians weren't even worth the bother of distinguishing).

You really need to learn more about history.

Oh, just to clarify, not being white does not mean that Italians (and Greeks and other mediterraneans) were considered black.

What's the definition for white (people) nowadays? When I was growing up, it meant someone who had absolutely no negroid african ancestry. Accusing a white person of it (especially an Italian) could lead to a fistfight.

R115 You sound progressive.

R115 there is DNA testing now, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone in the world with no DNA of ANY other race. Just ask Craig Cobb.

[quote] Paul Jabbara, Hoda Kotb

Any relation to Jabba?

I thought Hoda was black until you mentioned that.

We need a Kinsey scale to describe race.

[quote] Would you consider Ralph Macchio white?

R103, in your picture he was a mere yute.

Surprise, surprise!! The world isn't just black and white

R128, not meaning to derail the thread, but there's a hung jury of sorts about whether or not she's black. You can read some opinions in the comments to this Madame Noire article.

I skimmed through her autobiography once, and I remember her mentioning that certain African Americans confused her for black, since she was raised in the American South, where things like this matter. She also mentioned having to deal with her "bad hair" which, to black people, means "kinky" or "nappy."

However, she gave no indication of identifying as black, and certainly not as African American. She identifies as American of Eyptian parentage, and made it clear that she does NOT speak Arabic, because it's not HER language -- it's her parent's.

I meant r118

[Quote][R115] You sound progressive

What I'm really asking white people is this: Would you consider a white or whitish looking person as "white" if they had some non-caucasian ancestry, particularly if it's negroid african? I remember when the answer to that was "hell, no!" The one-drop theory came from this type of thinking.

But how do 21st century whites think about this? How is progression progressing?

A little light reading. Also check out 'race' to see how that is defined from a scientific perspective.

[Quote]As an Albanian, Ora is considered white.

[Quote]End of discussion.

Not so fast there, Sparky!

[quote]However, she gave no indication of identifying as black, and certainly not as African American. She identifies as American of Eyptian parentage, and made it clear that she does NOT speak Arabic, because it's not HER language -- it's her parent's.

So Egypt isn't in Africa?

Phoebe Snow, was a highly respected jazz singer who won several African America awards, but she was actually jewish.

[Quote]So Egypt isn't in Africa?

My belief, r127, is that Hoda would say, yes, Egypt is in Africa, but she's not African American, but Egyptian American, with a strong emphasis on the American. In other words, she doesn't see herself as part of the American Black culture and experience, unlike Barack Obama. So, YOU can call her black or African American if you want, but SHE'S not going to call herself that.

Charlize Theron is South African. The accepted cultural definition of the term African American does not apply to her, unless she actually has some black African ancestry.

[quota] Charlize Theron is South African. The accepted cultural definition of the term African American does not apply to her, unless she actually has some black African ancestry.

That does not make logical sense.

R130, a lot of what people believe about race, nationality & ethnicity does not make sense.

Which is why I detest the term "African-American." Africa is a continent, not a racial designation.

I couldn't agree with you more R132.

Racial designations are anything we decide that they are. Racial designations aren't immutable facts, they are something we made up and can change over time. That's what makes this whole discussion silly.

She is either White/Caucasian, Mongoloid/Asian, Negroid/Black, or Australoid. Given her background, I'll go with White/Caucasian.

[quote]Oh, and it's "Iranian" not "Persian".

But the "Iranians" speak Farsi (Persian) not Iranian.

[Quote]I am still trying to figure out how some family got away with telling that guy that Bulgarians are not white.

Some people would have a real problem with this woman, even the americanized version, entering their family.

But the reason is not that she is not white. Bulgaria is very white and very bigoted against anyone with dark skin.

One of these girls is Italian-American, the other is Latina.

Can you tell which is which (without cheating)?

Rita Ora? No, I just think she's shit.

How do we get rid of the race-baiting troll and these endlessly stupid threads about people's color? He posts this shit every day.

Or R141 can shut her twatmouth and not stink up threads with her rank pussy.

R136 The Americans speak English, that doesn't make them English people, they are Americans. Mexicans speak Spanish, they aren't Spanish people they are Mexicans. I could go on, but... you get it.

She's been Jay-Z's side piece for years.

R139 What's your point? There are and have been blacks who look white and no one can tell they aren't white. That doesn't mean they are.

Aww, the race-baiting troll at R142 got her widdle feewings hurt. Poor thing.

That's what happens when you're a dumb cunt, you dumb cunt. Do you seriously believe that you are going to successfully turn educated gay men into racists? You won't, you moron.

Whatever race she is, she is butt ugly.

I think the one on the left is Italian and the one on the right is latina, R139.

That's what I thought, too, R148, but it's actually the other way around.

Oh well. As has been pointed out, anyone can be a latina. The latina in the pic could have two 100% Italian parents, meaning the two girls come from the same genetic stock.

Does the ethnicity of that fugly walking petri dish, Ora, really matter?

For all we know, she might be High Yellow!

Interesting how Caucasians and Mongloids, whites and Asians respectively, derived their "scientific" names from the places where they're believed to have originated, but Negroids, blacks, are named after a color. Hmmm...

I don't know about her racial background, but that horrible blonde dye job is not doing her any favors. Why do all these ugly singers have to dye their hair a gross yellow color which does zero to enhance their natural skin color?

1. Stefani 2. Ora 3. Aguilera 4. Spears 5. Madge 6. Beeyawnce 7. "Hips don't lie" singer 8. Gaga 9. Minogue 10 Clarkson

R154 Kylie Minogue has been blond since childhood, I presume it's natural.

R82 I think Persian was used properly. Iranian is a nationality, but Persian is an ethnic group.

There is confusion because Persians are the predominant ethnic group in Iran. But there are also, Assyrians, Arabs, Jews, and other groups.

So you can be Iranian without being Persian.

And you can be Persian without ever having set foot in Iran.

(An American parallel would be WASP as the predominant group, but not all Americans are WASPS.)

[quote]Do you consider Rita Ora White?

No. In fact I don't consider her at all.

Rita is coonesian in appearance, but considering all the bull a kid has to endure being black, let's just go along and say she's white. I only wish we could wave a magic wand and do the same for all people of color. Meanness based on skin color is truly our greatest sadness today.

F&F, R158.

You're a nasty, twisted little fucker. Your dick must be shockingly small.

This thread is racist.

No one has a sense of humor any more.

What about Albinos -- Aren't they the TRUE white people?

I'm still famous, bitches.

She’s as white as my puckered asshole

I dont consider Rita Ora.