Name the chefs you hate the most

There's no contest here.

Rachael Ray.

There is her, the evil annoying obnoxious fake awful horrible chef from hell... and then there are all the rest. She stands atop the pile of horrible chefs. None of the others even come close.

Rachel Ray

"Gee, I didn't know you were THAT short!" Alan Alda's first words to Rachel Ray upon making a grand entrance to rapturous applause. The longest 2 seconds of silence known to man as RR is deflated before millions of viewers with a big smile plastered on.

Gordon Ramsay, because he's taught America that being foulmouthed and nutso over trivialities is somehow charming.

Bobby Flay seems like a smug, arrogant prick, even by chef standards.

Guy Fieri. I don't know if he can actually cook because I've never seen him cook, but I just hate the man because he represents everything that is wrong about Food Network.

Is Rachael Ray, a cook, or a chef?

Nigella

No Giada is the winner, she's a homewrecking whore who doesn't actually cook anything and hires actors to portray her friends on her shows. Praying mantis of death, plus she doesn't need to work. Her career feeds the monster that is her ego.

R6

Rachel Ray is neither, she is a symptom of a diseased culture.

My favorite was the Frugal Gourmet.

Lidia for sure has a nasty, smelly old snatch. Can't stand her or Mario Batone. His dick is undoubtedly cheesy. He wears shorts and crocks everyday. He's a smelly man. Hello, Mario. Crocks went out about 15 years ago.

-Paula Deen!

I want to punch Rachel Ray every time she says EVOO... and then explains it stands for "Extra-Virgin Olive Oil". It's not an abbreviation if you have to explain it each and every goddamned time. Stop trying to be so kewpie-doll cute, you ugly vicious harpie!

They are all insufferable. I used to love watching cooking shows on PBS before there was Food Network. My favorite was Nathalie Dupree. I think she was drunk during most of the taping because things were flying everywhere.

That southern chick who lives on a ranch, Dee something or other. I saw her when I was visiting relatives in Florida who watch her show. I think that dumb smile is one of those phony set of wax lips that were around when I was a kid. Her voice makes me want to scream "shut up". Also, her whole family will be having bypass surgery given that butter she uses is practically everything.

I loved Nathalie too R14. She was the anti-Martha no bullshit with great recipes and no pretense.

Canada has it's own Bobby Flay, in the name of Rob Feenie. He had a show, but got cancelled, and is now 'head chef' at The Cactus Club Cafe, where girls in tight, short dresses are the entree for leering old men.

Oh God that's so sad R17! There was something about him that just rubbed me the wrong way but I could never figure it out. Glad to read he's working at a titty bar.

That would be the Pioneer Woman R15. Ree Drummond. She's basically the bastard child of Paula Deen and Sandra Lee.

R16 - Exactly! Didn't think anyone else remember her. Love that old gal.

- r14

I don't hate her because I never had to be around her, but the hideously campy bitch Fanny Craddock would eat Gordon Ramsay, Batone, Miss Ray and the rest of today's nasty cruds for breakfast, after gutting them with her claws. EVERYONE who ever went near her hated her.

The clip (with St. Robert Morley) is a bit long, but shows her in full haughty mode as she dressed down the home-cook winner of a contest who was to do the menu for a big do. Craddock's enforced changes were failures at the dinner and it was the start of her long demise.

Guy Fieri and Robert Irvine. Douchebags par excellence.

Oh come on! Where is the grease fire for Steven Raichlen, the most bombastic yet twee pit master, ruining bbq with shrill pedantry?

R17. Poor Fanny. They did a bio pic of her on BBC, this is the opening.

R21 I remember Benny Hill's parodies of her but never actually saw her show.

Another Canadian cook I hate is some bint named Nadia G. She acts like some Jersey trash and cooks garbage in a very loud nasally voice. She had a show but it was thankfully canceled.

R25, had to look her up.

[quote] Hailed as the "Julia Child of the Net generation"

Err...

I know he's popular here but I hate Chuck Hughes. He tries so hard to be a bro that it overshadows whatever he might be cooking. And wife or no wife I still think he's closeted.

I don't hate anyone, it takes too much energy, but I have to say, I cannot stand to watch Rachel Ray or Guy Fieri. Not a Mario Batali fan either. Never liked Emeril. Mario and Emeril seemed to mess up their food adding way too mush crap on it. I grew up wayching cooking shows, including dear Julia. I remember when Sarah Molton had a wonderful cooking show.

I do like Lydia Bastianich, and of course, Ina Garten. If it's sheer comic relief, Paula Deen was always my go to. I saw her hawking her wares on some shopping channel the other day, and she was herself. Eating up all the food in the counter, to the point she had her mouth full when the hostess threw her a line. Hilarious. But she had some damned good recipes too, back ub the day. Whether Giada actually cooks or not, I have to say I do like the recipes she showcases so I don't hate her, but Ina is my favorite. You know who I really didn't like? The Neelys. They were so fake. Ugh.

Sandra Lee/chef/cook/lush created a travesty against all humanity, not just African Americans:

Created = committed

Boyardee

Wow R26, it takes a lot of bleach make a bint that blonde. I don't hate Emeril, but I imagine he's probably a kinky bottom, panties, diapers or some such. You can tell by looking at Lydia Bastianich that she's been through some shit, and come out of it alright, a strong woman of character. A very solid cook/chef. I adore Sara Moulton, but I know, this is a hate thread. How can you hate Sandra Lee? She is a testament to being a glitzy drunk bimbo for rich guys. She is modern camp!

WTF R29! Corn nuts?

I never saw Chuck Hughes before R27. He looks handsome, wholesome. No doubt he's easy to talk into surprise anal. It figures he's Canadian.

Love Sandra Lee, who doesn't pretend to be anything other than what she is.

Hate the spiky headed douche for being a self-important, homophobic turd.

French Canadian R34!

Can't stand to look at Ramsey but I'd pay to see someone punch his face. BBC America shows endless reruns of this prick.

I don't know if she's a chef or cook but I hate Jacqui Malouf and I really hate Bobby Flay for foisting her on us.

Michael Chiarello comes to mind.

And R39, he's so smarmy and self important. Lots of stories here about his anonymous dalliances with other gentleman.

[qoute]I remember when Sarah Molton had a wonderful cooking show.

Sarah Moulton is still doing shows-- I just saw one yesterday that had a 2015 copyright date. I guess you just have to find a station that chooses to air them.

I saw that r24, it was fantastic. She was a real dragon, even Hyacinth Bucket and Mrs. Slocombe combined couldn't match that level of arch cuntiness.

Guy Fieri is my pet hate. He's an abomination. Also can't stand simpering Nigella or the loathsome Padma Lakshmi.

I enjoy Nigel Slater, his books are good and his show is entertaining. The food is simple, well prepared, seasonal. He's also cute in a librarian sort of way.

I did a separate thread for Craddock. Her Christmas recipes.

As for hating chefs (and calling Ray a chef is just silly, of course), Lidia Nastiabitch seems like the kind of person who would shit on you if you weren't a big name. So full of her low-brow self. And that hideous son of hers - snide and haughty, and the daughter - mommy-bought PhD and desperate incompetence showing.

But Emeril, Ramsay, Fieri, Batali - all celebrity business-chefs - are disgusting.

A special place in the Rogue's Gallery of Culinary Assholes is set aside for Bastianich's aforementioned son, Jo-Jo. Not only did he steal from his workers to the tune of MILLIONS

but Jo-Jo just CAN'T keep things clean.

An overreaching tool.

Everyone on The Chew.

Aaron Sanchez is smug and annoying.

[quote]Sandra Lee/chef/cook/lush created a travesty against all humanity, not just African Americans:

Sandra Lee is a saint. She's a horrible, horrible cook, but she's a good person.

I don't hate chefs. I just decide I don't want to watch them anymore. It got so bad, I gave up cable, mainly because FN became this insane competition network. I don't like food to compete. It doesn't work for me. I like the PBS shows just fine, esp. Martha and Chris Kimball.

I stopped liking Lidia when that story broke about her keeping this woman prisoner at her house in Douglaston. I believed the woman, not Lidia. Plus I never liked Lidia's food as much as either Marcella's or Giuliano's.

I like Steven Raichlen a lot. I don't know how he could make it onto this thread.

Guy Fieri is just one very lucky douchebag. He was one of the reasons I dropped cable. The only one I like on FN is Ina.

I always thought Ramsey is complete trash, but I found a recipe of him for pickled celery sticks that was actually really good.

The thing about Ramsey is he's a horrible, truly obnoxious human being but a good chef. He actually is a properly trained chef with years of running world class restaurants behind him, not a cook with a famous dad and connected media husband who died tragically young so got sympathy point and a talent for sucking and licking things in a lascivious manner on camera (hello Nigella).

That Farmhouse Rules chick drives me up the walls. I hear that voice in another room, and I run in to change the station. And Bobby Flay. The number of times he says "actually"and "we're kinda going to"per episode is unforgivable.

Ramsey is a prick

Paula Deen is a racist cunt

[quote]Aaron Sanchez is smug and annoying.

He actually described himself as a [italic]muy macho[/italic] guy.

Please. I pictured his wife pegging him with a wrist-thick dildo.

Hate: Alton Brown, Giada De Laurentiis, Anne Burrell, Rocco DiSpirito, Ree Drummond, Richard Blais

Love: Vivian Howard and her PBS show A Chef's Life

Heston Blumenthal (sp?) has a show on a British food channel and he is supremely annoying. His shtick is to take '"well-known" and "well-loved" staples say, Fish and Chips and reconstitute the F&C flavor into say, a frozen dessert, or a souffle or a sausage roll. The 'piece de resistance" is when he gets guests to then taste the finished reconstitued product and guess what it?!

If they all shout "Fish and Chips!!" Heston is thrilled!

His show is more entertainment. A lot of his cooking is more to feed his huge his 'ego' and for audience 'shock value.'

R54 - I like Alton Brown because he caters to 'cooks', not chefs. He's the TV version of 'Cooking for Dummies'. Although, it has been awhile since I've had Food Network, or HGTV on my television, so things may have changed. The producers are always attempting to add 'drama' to these cable programs, and it's always so obvious it's contrived. That's why PBS still reigns supreme for cooking shows.

Paula Deen is no more racist than she is a chef. We ALL know how impossible "some people" are in terms of motivation, energy, passion, focus, commitment, communication, and just plain showing up on time. Paula's sons fit that mold, so how could Paula be considered racist?

I don't hate her, but Ina Garten is much too precious about her dull dishes and a solipsist.

I do hate Jamie Oliver, though. Such a simpering, smug mediocrity.

Giada and Nigella. Double puke.

And who is that southern hag on PBS who blew her family's money starting a restaurant. She is such a loud-mouth, boring piece of ego-shit. I think I hate her!

Can't hate Sandra Lee but her food has been so consistently bad (it's not camp, it's not retro, it's low-brow, stupid, lazy crap from someone who doesn't give a shit) that I feel sick any time I see a photo of her.

Love (living and dead) Craig Claiborne (what a hot pretentious mess but a real food lover), James Beard (the same as Claiborne, with an added layer of neurosis and a hearty laugh), Pierre Franey, Jaques Pepin, Julia Child, Dion Lucas, Marcella Hazan (if a bitch she had a right to be one - what glorious food) and St. Lafcadio Hearn.

[quote]That Farmhouse Rules chick drives me up the walls.

Please. She hasn't been a "chick" since the Nixon administration.

Rachael Ray is the devil.

I like David Chang.

Not a cook/chef, but her skinny ass somehow injected herself into that world, Padma Lakshmi always just seems stoned out of her tree.

Fat Heather, fat Sarah, Marcel, and Jamie Lauren.

Agree with Rachel Ray. Her voice is so annoying, she's so obnoxious, she's always making the same food.

Another Canadian chef with a 'reputation' See the comments.

I've met and waited on Lidia Bastianich a number of times. She was delightful.

Are you a part-black, part Jew armed robber R12? If you'd robbed me, I'd certainly feel little compunction about calling you names. May as well cop to it, and attack right back. You'll never be forgiven anyway, even if you kiss the stinking toes of the half of R12 that lords it over these celebrities. Deen's big mistake was in backing down. Girl should've owned it.

Ugh, R61, I forgot about Marcel. The best moment on Top Chef ever was the other guys kicking his ass and shaving his head.

I was surprised to read he was best friends with fuckable Spike Mendelsohn. It certainly lowered Spike in my estimation.

Alain Passard - well done but finally too too precious

I dislike a lot of the chefs and "chefs" mentioned already but I'll add Tom Colicchio to the list. He's very arrogant and thinks his opinion on food is just oh so important.

This is why I hate the idea of food being judged. It's NOT factual; it's all about taste! There is no 1 person, or small group of people who have "better taste" in comparison to everyone else. Sometimes I get so annoyed on Top Chef when Tom and other judges disregard what the dining public say about a particular dish that a contestant made.

Pioneer woman owns this thread. In fact I think the top three UGH! People are Pioneer Woman, Guy Fieri, and Rachel Ray. Absolutely no class and no style. None at all. Rachel did a book signing a few years ago at our book store and I was curious. She is really short. I mean not close to five feet. She is also one of those "Don't look at me!" people. She arrives about one minute before the signing, ran to the table and signed for about 30 minutes while media shot footage, then she left. It was so quick people in line thought she had taken a break and stood there dumbfounded. All they got for their trouble was a pre-printed sticker in their book saying they were at the signing, and thanks, from RR.

IMO Giada seems like a mannequin. She has no warmth and doesn't really connect with people. but I like the food they do on her show. Same with Bobby Flay. I like his recipes, but I can't stand his smugness. I don't feel repulsed by either of them, I'm more ambivalent. When Guy Fieri hangs out in those diners, drive ins and dives sampling the food, it is nausea inducing. Who is the sort of heavy set woman with the blonde spikey hair who has a show? I find her unwatchable.

I own one of Giada's cookbooks, and it's actually pretty good. As for her personal life, the woman was molested by her father. I give her a pass.

Care to expand on your distaste for Richard Blais R54 ?

Love Ina.

Can not stand Pioneer Woman, Giada, Rachel Ray, Guy Fieri, Gordon Ramsey, Flay......and the dude who says "Bam".

Hate all the contest cooking game shows. It's gotten ridiculous.

An Italian chef named Biba Caggiano who had a short lived TV show on TLC. She was one of those Italians that if it isn't Italian food then it's garbage. And more importantly if it isn't her exact recipe then it's all wrong. Really hated her.

The one I can't stand the most is Mike Colameco on PBS.

In one of his series, he spends the early part of the episodes going to different locations talking about a specific kind of food, after which he goes back to the kitchen and to make something completely different than what he just "discovered" earlier. It's like, what the hell was the point of going to different sites in the first place.

For example, the stuuupidest one I remember was when he walked around the Ironbound section of Newark and went to a number of Iberian markets and restaurants and spoke with several proprietors. The show then cut to Colameco back at the studio where he's about to demonstrate how to make paella. But really, no. The step-by-step instructions are nothing at all like what was described to him earlier or what we saw in the first part of the episode. In fact, the dish he ends up making barely resembles paella at all.

Giada irritates me because of the over articulate way she pronounces certain foods. The way she says "spaghetti" irritates me the most. I imagine that's how some DL posters on the overheated Italian threads pronounce the word.

I don't like Pioneer Woman because her food sounds really bland and disgusting. And I can't stand her lispy voice. Plus she home schools her kids. I bet she goes to church every week too.

Rachel Ray is way too perky. And I love professional asshole Anthony Bourdain's remark about her: "I wouldn't eat Rachel Ray's slop if she came to my house daily and prepared dinner for us."

Nigella's boobs hover way too close to her food preparations for my taste.

And I don't like Guy Fieri - just because.

I really want to dislike Sandra Lee, but she's so trashy it's hard to do so. The Kwansa Cake is rightfully a DL icon.

I miss that cute gay Dan Lieberman guy who was on Food Network for about a season or so years back.

And I especially miss Aarti, the Indian woman. (Anyone who can do a segment on curried hot dogs is ok with me.)

If I had to pick a favorite, it would probably be Sara Moulton.

And I also have to mention Tyler Florence - not because of anything he cooks, but because he's the one chef I really want to fuck.

I honestly do really like Martha Stewart's Cooking School. I learn a lot of good stuff from it.

I could have written R72.

[quote] I'll add Tom Colicchio to the list. He's very arrogant and thinks his opinion on food is just oh so important.

Whereas his opinion on food is no more important than his opinion on hair.

I’ve always liked Martha, R75. I’ve been a fan since ENTERTAINING.

None of you fucking bitches better mention MY name here!!!!

I don't like Alton Brown because he undercooks food and flirts with food borne diseases. You can't do that when doing recipes for the public. Most of these people are just folks who couldn't get a regular job so they made themselves into a "personality" and never had any interest in being a chef (Rachel Ray especially). I don't hate them, but I do think it's funny when one of them went around the country doing his version of a traditional local specialty against the local chefs, as judged by the local people, and the local chef always won. You'd have to have balls of steel to do that. I like the ones who actually were chefs before they were celebrities even if they weren't "high end" chefs (with the exception of the execrable Anthony Bourdain). Plus I have a crush on Ryan Scott for his lack of pretense and you can just tell he treats his workers like actual people and isn't afraid they will steal the limelight from him. Steve Raichlen has to be an aspie of some kind. If he ever did show up at a real tailgate people would tease and torture him mercilessly.

[quote]Plus I have a crush on Ryan Scott

I have a crush on Ryan Scott Nelson. I don't know how well he cooks, though.

R75 Yeah Post-penitentiary Martha Stewart is a totally different on-screen presence. She seems calm and happy and thoroughly herself!

Tyler Florence [italic]was[/italic] hot before he became a fat fuck.

I love David Rocco myself.

Uh...Alton...uh...uh...uh...Brown.

I love Alton Brown. I learn so much from him! And Tyler Florence got fat, it's true, but he is still sexy as hell. Young Tyler with that black shirt on was Pure Sex. Giada's recipes are pretty good. I just can't stand it when she says "yummy." I would totally ban that word from all usage forever.

Once posted on a foodie forum about Michael Chiarello's alleged same-sex dalliances, and a poster claiming to be his daughter read us the riot act, frau-style.

I like to hate-watch Sandra Lee. And she does try to push her cooking as first rate, when it's little more than slinging pre-made ingredients together. You can get the same shit from a woman's magazine.

Fast huevos rancheros

People remember the semi-homemade crock pot shit, but she can cook better than that.

She had a show called Sandra's Restaurant Remakes, where she made simplified versions of restaurant dishes. Some of those weren't bad at all.

[quote]As for her personal life, the woman was molested by her father.

Bitch is always trying to steal focus.

The only cooking show worth watching is anything with Martha Stewart.

Maybe she's a bitch off camera but she's flawless as an instructor. Also: she doesn't talk down to the audience. She has high standards even if that's not so popular in today's TV world. And...she speaks proper English with perfect pronunciation. Her persona sort of harks back to the days of Arlene Francis, Betty Furness etc. She's the best.

I like listening to her talk, her voice is soothing

Matha Stewart rocks.

I like Giada's recipes and Anne Burrell's as well. Ina is great. I used to love Alton Brown.

Don't really care what their personalities are in real life. Just give me a good, easy recipe to make and I'll be fine.

Giada's recipes are fine but I can't stand to watch her. She's aggressively repellent. I can't watch most of the awful chefs already mentioned, Guy Fieri is particularly horrendous.

Martha's pretty good, her recipes have improved a lot since the old days when they were terrible. For a jumped up little Polish girl from New Jersey she does very well. I like Mary Berry (British cook) a lot, she's mostly a baker. I'm also a big fan of Michel Roux Jr's and Marco Pierre White's. Marco has a terrible personality but he's a great chef. He trained Ramsay, Curtis Stone and a lot of other chefs.

In the old days I always loved Julia. Jaques Pepin has done some good shows and is a good teacher if you can hear through the accent. Paul Hollywood's recent bread series was fantastic. The fat lesbian with the spiky hair is difficult to watch but her recipes are quite good. Ina's recipes never fail.

As a kid (other than Julia) it was the one, the only, Graham Kerr the Galloping Gourmet. I know he came out for a while but did he go back in the closet? Reformed by Jebus, prayed away the gay or something like that? Pity.

Oh, and I HATE the trend of all these washed up actresses having cooking shows all of a sudden. They are all terrible, they must be doing well in the ratings thought for everyone to have jumped all over the trend. Patricia Heaton comes across as a big a bitch in real life as she did on Everybody Loves Raymond

'Patricia Heaton does not currently have any shows airing on the Food Network' And hopefully, never will again.

[quote]I know he came out for a while but did he go back in the closet?

Really? I knew Graham Kerr was born-again but have never heard anything about him being gay or ex-gay.

Giada is pretty, but she's short, with a large head and short arms.

Todd English. No good reason; he's just seemed like a dick every time I've seen him in something, like Ming's show on PBS or as a guest judge on one of those competition shows.

Wow, what a bunch of nasty cunts we have posting on here. I wish the thread was "What do the celebrity chefs thinks of those nasty posters on DL" Well?....

Yeah, Tyler got fat. That english chef, oliver something is also a fatty now. I hate all the TV chefs like Rachel Ray, and can't name the others coz I don't watch and thus don't know their names.

I am so surprised that Mario Batalli (wrong spelling sorry) is still alive, I thought he would at least have a heart attack or 2 by now, he is so fucking fat, all that butter and italian food.

R96, yes Todd English is another slimy greasy fucker, he has yellow fever and we all know what that means on DL.

I remember watching "How to Boil Water" on food network, oh how things have changed....

Hi Rachel @ R97, glad you could come by for a visit.

The Voltaggio brothers are pretty arrogant. I've disliked them since they first appeared on "Top Chef". Yes they can cook quite well but they're obnoxious about it

I think Aaron Sanchez is hot. He's gone overboard with the tats but I like him : )

I like Delia Smith. She's an institution in Britain. Her recipes are tried and tested and then tested again to be foolproof. She also owns a part share in a soccer team and was drunk at half time, exhorting the crowd to show more support. Girl likes her wine.

I also like The Hairy Bikers. Two hairy biker guys who cook things that can be made at home without any fancy equipment. I think one of them was a makeup artist before he got the cooking show.

I never heard anything about Graham Kerr being family. I know he was married to the same woman forever and he started cooking healthy when she got a heart condition.

If anyone should die in a grease fire it should be Guy Fieri.

God, I love the Hairy Bikers. Totally unfuckable but good cooks. Do you ever watch their travel shows? Making a Black Forest Gateau in the Black Forest on a portable stove was highly amusing, looked pretty tasty too.

Does Sunny Anderson still have a show on the Food Network?

I love/hate the Jazzy Vegetarian. It's not often that a cooking show thinks to include a torch song about peanut butter mousse tartlets, a recipe for a glass of water with a raspberry in the bottom, a 70's porn song about funkaaay cabbage rolls, [italic]and[/italic] Michael Feinstein....and maybe that's for the best.

You get two of the above in the compilation below:

R103 it was their travel shows that I first saw. They seem to really get into whatever the local cuisine is. I love their weight loss shows too, they lost loads. Their healthy beef goulash is always a hit but their baking is my favorite.

I don't get many cooking shows anymore, I don't have cable or tv, just the internet. But when I did I hated the cooking contests. I adore the Two Fat Ladies, poor dears.

[quote]Does Sunny Anderson still have a show on the Food Network?

She is a co-host on The Kitchen. Only white chefs and washed up celebrity has-beens have there own cooking shows on Food Network.

What ever happened to that hot chef Dave Lieberman? He seemed gay but I never heard anything confirming that.

[quote]Oh, and I HATE the trend of all these washed up actresses having cooking shows all of a sudden. They are all terrible, they must be doing well in the ratings thought for everyone to have jumped all over the trend. Patricia Heaton comes across as a big a bitch in real life as she did on Everybody Loves Raymond

Patty Heaton is the star of a long-running sitcom on ABC, so I'd hardly call her "washed up."

R110 - And what is she doing today? Watching reruns of 'The Middle' while home schooling her boys?

[quote] And what is she doing today?

Since "The Middle" is still in production, I would imagine she's working.

I don't hate him, but this thread reminded me that Richard Simmons used to do a cooking bit on his early eighties exercise show.

Dislike Guy Fieri

Very tired of listening to Anthony Bourdain

Love to watch half-Chinese half-Egyptian Bobby Chinn on PBS' Globe Trekkers

Scott Conant owns this thread.

The worst thing about reality TV is that people who serve fucking food are now celebrities. Go back to the kitchen and shut the fuck up. Well, actually the second worst thing behind the Kardashians who do nothing (other than suck cock) to become famous.

I haven't watched the Food Network in years but I always found Giada so annoying I couldn't watch her. Ina is my favorite like several others here.

I know nothing about his cooking but for some reason I used to have a crush on Michael Symon.

[quote]IMO Giada seems like a mannequin. She has no warmth and doesn't really connect with people.

I don't notice this while she's cooking and instructing. When I watch cooking shows, I never watch the end where the family/friends gather to oooh and aaah about the food, so I don't see her interacting. I definitely got this feeling when I saw her talking to contestants on Nest Food Network Star. I imagine it has a lot to do with the molestation.

The chefs/cooks/Food Network/Bravo people I hate the most are the one with off-putting ways of speaking. They're not in the kitchen only; they are ON TV, SPEAKING to us.

I've already mentioned Alton Brown, who must have graduated from the Caroline Uh Kennedy UH School of Public Uh Speaking.

Then there's Tom Colicchio's weirdly soft but grating vocal fry tone;

Giada's insistence on bizarre pronunciations of Italian ("spagheeetti") with her 72 teeth;

Padmas; psychopathic monotone lack of affect and general (Indian) arrogance;

Rachael (sic) Ray's harsh Elaine Stritch voice and attempts at coinage ("EVOO" clap-trap).

r91, you are, I think, confused about the charming Graham Kerr (also my childhood idol), who always had a glass of wine as he cooked. He "came out" as an ALCOHOLIC, and "came back" as a reformed drunk with revised recipes.

Those Voltaggio pricks have tiny asshole mouths. I'm highly offended that they've been able to sustain tv careers after their asshole appearances on Top Chef.

As much as I loved snarking on her, I miss Sandra Lee. I was pleasantly surprised when I turned on the TV a few weeks back and they were running one of her fabulous Halloween specials.

I hope when she gets back to 100% from all her health problems, Sandy goes back on TV being fabulous.

I like Giada's recipes but I agree that she comes off as fake. However, I also read a story about how her father molested her for years and after she finally told her mom, she and her mom left Italy and moved to LA. Her fake smile is a determined effort to pretend she has nothing to be sad about.

Well, that and her gay ex-husband.

If what Paul Deen said is true and Giada spits out the food she tastes then I really don't like her.

Giada looks like an insect, just like Angelina Jolie.

Lots of women chefs taste and spit, R126.

[quote] I also read a story about how her father molested her for years and after she finally told her mom, she and her mom left Italy and moved to LA.

I didn't know that. She's still unwatchable but it explains why she fucks and sucks everything with a dick that crosses her path.

[quote]Lots of women chefs taste and spit

Not me, baby -- I swallow!

Ina "Fake Giggle" Garten grinds my gears. She adds a teaspoon of salt and pepper to EVERYTHING she prepares: Coffee, cheesecake, meringue - doesn' t matter. She will be there levelling condiments on her measuring spoons with her finger.

Cannot and will not ever support Ina. Just ugh. Put some shoes on!

Your commentary would mean more, R131, if you told us who you do like (even though that's not in the headline).

Karlos Arguiñano es el puto amo! Karlos Arguiñano is the fucking master!!! (He only by himself has changed for good Spanish way to cook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Nobody hates him. Sorry for you Americans, so sorry. And he tells the best jokes while he cooks.

I don't know why I hate Jose Andres so much. He cooks interesting dishes and the travel part of his show is great, but he just reminds me of some drunk uncle who shows up slobbering over everything.

What r3 said.

I saw Giadia on Jimmy Kimmel the other night. Of course her neckline plunged to her navel and she was talking about her Christmas gnocchi type balls and nuts all the while holding a grown, male, dwarf in her arms.

I too hate Giada's—and [italic]Aarrrrrrrrrrrron's[/italic]—pretentious native-speaker pronunciations. WE GET IT, YOU'RE BILINGUAL. Stop being a couple of Alex Trebek noodges.

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I can't stand Anthony Bourdain. He reminds me of this professor at my college who would come to our parties and drink and get high with students. At my friend's final meeting about her thesis he told her she "should really try acid". Anthony Bourdain feels like the same kind of aging saddo who wants to seem really bad ass.

As for good chefs, no mention of Biker Billy?

Posh spice spits out food as well, that's how she eats. She chews and tastes the food but spits it out onto a napkin (if she's out in a resto).

Pati Jinich is great for people on a budget, Pati's Mexican Table

Oops wrong link

Her husband must have money, right, R140?

They're always in Mexico and she doesn't seem to have a regular 9-5 job.

I watch her on occasion on Create.

I don't consider Food TV personalities like Rachel Ray or Guy Fieri to be chefs. Gordon Ramsay is just psychotic. I would never want to eat anything he cooked because I'm sure he gives off an evil energy that irradiates his dishes.

Tres leches = cold, wet cake, like eating a sweetened dog's nose.

Isn't her husband like an ambassador or something high up in Mexico's diplomatic corps? They lived in DC.

Another one I can't stand is Rick Bayless, with his whispery, dead-eyed serial killer persona.

Everyone who's said they hate Gordon Ramsay, have you ever seen clips of him with kid chefs? He can be incredibly patient and kind around them. I think he's just a bastard to adults because he can't stand incompetency in people who should know better. This is not to say I like him or even know much about him, because I've only seen him a few times in those "Kitchen Nightmare" shows; but I wanted to point out another side of him.

R147 if you watch his original BBC make-over show he was completely different. He even backed down and walked out of a kitchen when a chef got in his face about slagging off his recipe. He turned into a jackass for the American show and sadly it carried over to his UK show.

I hate him because his entire career is based on marrying the right woman and letting his FIL make him famous.

There's just something about female chefs and politics/intelligence agencies.

More fool you, R143, Gordon Ramsay is a fucking great chef. If he cooked something for you it would probably be the best you'd ever tasted. He can be a cunt when a sous chef doesn't meet his standards but most of the time he's a pussycat.

I can't trust someone who has such deep-set forehead wrinkles as Gordon Ramsay to make my food.

[quote]Love: Vivian Howard and her PBS show A Chef's Life

I keep watching her show because eventually she's going to murder her obnoxious husband and I don't want to miss it. I enjoy her personality, but I don't think I would want to each most of what she cooks.

Martha Stewart's Cooking and Baking shows are excellent. I never disliked her even when it was stylish to do so, but she gets better with age. She's very good at explaining why things are best done a certain way.

I like Lydia Bastianich and Sarah Moulton, and Kevin Dundin is great. Some of the foreign shows are interesting, for instance the Scandinavian shows, but many of their ingredients aren't available here. There's a new one, a woman from New Zealand who is very enjoyable and her food seems approachable, although she grows most of what she cooks.

I don't have cable and don't get Food Network, but I love Ina Garten's recipes. I would never cook like Trish Yearwood does most of the time, but her pecan pie that's made with brown sugar instead of Karo syrup is outstanding. I took it to Thanksgiving dinner a few years ago and now I'm not allowed to bring anything else.

There was a LAW & ORDER: CI episode about a popular father/daughter chef team where the father was raping the daughter well into adulthood. It made me think of Giada. Poor thing. She can be annoying but I've had success with her recipes. Sandra Lee annoys me because she calls viniagrette "vinegarette" and mascarpone "marscapone". TWOP people spent DAYS online trashing her food.

[quote]I hope when she gets back to 100% from all her health problems, Sandy goes back on TV being fabulous.

Maybe her health problems stem from all that processed food she cooks and espouses. I'll never understand pushing things like cake mixes that save so little time and have so many additives.

Seems like it should have been on SVU instead of CI. The L.A. Times did a story about her years ago when she was in her early '20s a and volunteering for an organization that provides counseling and assistance to abuse survivors. They did n't name her, but her father was.. This was a couple of decades before her fame, so I'm not sure how many people beyond those associated with the organization have connected the dots. The abuse was particularly awful. He treated her like a captive mistress.

[quote](She) came to America when she was 7. Her father was a movie producer who had brought the family here from Italy. They attended the best schools and lived in increasingly beautiful homes. But (her) father was difficult. He collected guns and used them to intimidate the children and their mother. When she was 12, her father decided her nanny wasn't needed anymore. He began to enter her room at night and that was the end of her childhood. By age 13, he was regularly raping her at least three times a week. The audience--including Tipper Gore, Abigail Van Buren, Quincy Jones, Sherry Lansing, Norman Lear, Marsha Mason and Susan Dey, to name but a few--seemed to be holding its breath, holding back tears.

[quote](Her) life became a mixture of shame and fear. . . . Her father told her they had been lovers in a previous life and that he was preparing her so that when she had a boyfriend or husband she would know what to do. But there were no boyfriends. (She) was never allowed to date. She was allowed no activities outside the home. She had become her father's captive. As (she) neared the end of high school, she began to dream of escape. She knew that if she did not leave the house now, she would be there forever. She packed her bags and told her father she was moving out. He called her a slut and a bitch. And he looked at her and said, "Take that whore of a sister with you." When she summoned the courage to tell, she found solace at Stuart House, a small, beautifully appointed building near the hospital that was a dream of Abarbanel and Aileen Adams, the treatment center's legal counsel

[quote]Maybe her health problems stem from all that processed food she cooks and espouses. I'll never understand pushing things like cake mixes that save so little time and have so many additives.

Or maybe it was because cancer is a thing that sometimes happens.

[quote](Her) life became a mixture of shame and fear. . . . Her father told her they had been lovers in a previous life and that he was preparing her so that when she had a boyfriend or husband she would know what to do.

You read stuff like that, and frankly I'd forgive Giada just about anything. How do you even have anything approaching a normal life when you have that in your past?

[quote]Maybe her health problems stem from all that processed food she cooks and espouses.

So you're making assumptions about her personal diet on one series (Semi-Homemade Cooking) out of the four or so series she hosted over the years. Then you go on to idiotically attribute her breast cancer to that show.

That's one of the most fucked-up, ignorant things I've read on DL lately

In any case, she lives with the governor of New York so I doubt she cooks much of anything and undoubtedly has a better diet than most of the posters on this thread.

Keep on believing, R157.

I'm always assumed 75% of her diet is alcohol, which is one of the reasons why we love her.

She always seems like she's inebriated, R159. I never thought about it, but it's true.

Sandy seems like what Edina Monsoon would be if Eddie was a good person underneath all the mess.

She's your crazy aunt with the big heart that's always in the right place.

Sandra fucked and sucked and married her way to the top. And don't believe all of her woe-is-me-with-my-dysfunctional-childhood tale; a lot of it is embellished. I'm sorry she had to go through breast cancer, but that doesn't make her a saint.

[quote]Maybe her health problems stem from all that processed food she cooks and espouses.

You do realize that people who eat healthy foods exclusively also get cancer. But whatever makes you feel invulnerable.

Yes, I also know a relative blames her breast cancer on toxic chemicals in food. She's done a enormous amount of research so I tend to see her as somewhat of an expert.

Jenny McCarthy-type of research?

R162 is a damaged person.

R159 as slim as she is, I also doubt she eats a lot processed foods, especially if she drinks frequently.

R164 is your relative also a self-taught expert on Sandra Lee's personal diet?

One asinine comment after another...

R166 your comments are the most inane. Sandra doesn't need to use TP with a lowlife minion like you around to lick her anus, does she?

You'd think with years and years of "Cocktail Time!" in her system, NO cancer could survive.

I doubt my relative knows or cares about Sandra Lee. I wouldn't know about her if she weren't a constant DL punch line.

F&F the scat troll at R167

Here's the article a poster quoted upthread. When you Google giada sexually abused, this is oddly always a top result though her name isn't mentioned. (It was #2 today for me.) Her father is named but she uses her mother's maiden name.

Sandra Lee has defenders?

Sandra Lee doesn't really need defenders, she's done nothing wrong.

Except cook R173

R174 see R86

[quote]Sandy seems like what Edina Monsoon would be if Eddie was a good person underneath all the mess. She's your crazy aunt with the big heart that's always in the right place.

Exactly... it would be Cool.... Aunt Sandy's having a party. We'd better stop at Wendy's for a burger on the way because the food's going to suck and there's going to be lots of booze. But you know you'd have a blast.

R176 A friend who has a Christmas or New Year's or general holiday party every year asks me to come up with a special foo-foo cocktail for people who drink too often.

So the task is cram in the maximum alcohol that doesn't taste strong. Sandra Lee is the queen of this. This one was so popular, we did it two years in a row.

Since she doesn't name brands on TV, here's what it is. Fill a pitcher with 2 parts Hpnotiq, one part of Licor 43 (or vanilla vodka to cut the sweetness), and a small splash of Sprite to pretend there's some mixer in it.

Wouldn't you want to offer less alcohol to your friends "who drink too often"?

You missed the point, R178.

Those people (primarily women) want to get a "buzz" at a party too...they just rarely drink, don't especially like the taste of liquor, and won't have more than a couple of drinks at a party. So make sure those couple of drinks work!!!

I want Dave Lieberman to cook for me and then spend the rest of the evening fucking.

[quote]I can't stand Anthony Bourdain. He reminds me of this professor at my college who would come to our parties and drink and get high with students.

That's him, exactly.

Although I'm a big fan of Martha over the others, the one you'd want to hang out with is definitely Sandra Lee.

I can’t stand Ina Hippo Garten .Ever since she snubbed that little boy who had cancer who wanted to see her I dropped watching her show or even remotely paying any attention to her. I can’t stand to look at that arrogant haughty social climbing snob. Some chiefs were appalled by Ian’s snub that they took the time to see the little boy. My niece died at the age of 8 of cancer and it hurts me to think there are people who are so cruel like her.

I used to like Sandra Lee’s Semi- Homemade. She took basic cake mixes and readymade icings etc. that average working class and middle class people would by at the grocery store and turn them into amazing dishes. However, I have to say, my mother bought Sandra’s cook book and used a couple of her recipes. They were so gross we all wanted to barf. I was shocked how bad they were. I started to really hate Sandra when she did a second show for people on a very tight budget because it was a degrading put down. Her hair was unkempt, the kitchen was not decorated, and her dishes looked really horrible. It was a major insult to poor people. My family and their friends were working class and they took care of their appearance, and they were and are, very, very clean. Their kitchens were decorated and put together really cute. Their lives didn’t remotely mimic the depressing image Sandra was trying to portray on her second show. It was as if a rich woman was trying to connect with the little people who lived outside her isolated wealthy world, just horrible!

I can’t stand Robert Irvin. Yes he goes to restaurants that need help and many are in horrible shape. However, he is jerk who thinks he knows everything. He screams at people when they have tablecloths on their tables because he hates tablecloths and he said no one uses table clothes anymore which is a lie. 5 star restaurants use white tablecloths. In fact, in one of the episodes of his show, Restaurant Impossible, he yelled at one owner to go across the street and observe the successful restaurant. What did they have on their tables? White tablecloths. He gets angry and says if the place isn’t modern, people won’t come in and dine, yet there are many hole in the wall restaurants which are packed with diners who don’t care what the place looks like because the food is amazing. Guy’s show is a testament to that fact. The interior designers he brings in are horrible and once they are done decorating the interiors of the restaurants, they ALL look like the same sterile cafeterias and so generic and boring. He doesn’t get American tradition. He doesn’t like the traditional American diners is an American tradition. Can you imagine if we went to England and tried to change the classic English pub? He controls and changes everything, even somethings that don’t need changing. He wants to tell the person I want it done this way or that way.

Speaking of Robert Irvin, I watched his wedding when they filmed it on a TV special. He invited Guy, who I don’t like that much, and he invited Michael Chiarello. Guy extended his hand out to Michael and Michael snubbed him right in front of the camera when it was rolling. Even though I don’t Guy, I think Michael seems like an arrogant snob who I can’t stand.

Someone once posted on DL that they knew someone who worked on Gordon’s show which people compete and he yelled at them. I can’t remember his American show because I never watched it, but I remember the poster who said Gordon made some of the male and female contestants have sex with him if they wanted to get anywhere. BTW, I knew people who have worked with Martha Stewart and they said she is a major bitch! I was told a couple of stories about her nastiness and they were just horrible. However, despite who she is as a person, I think she does have classy taste and I love the various products she created that were super and retro.

I like the Pioneer Woman. She seems really likeable and her food looks super.

I love Nancey Fuller, Alton Brown, and I love Sunny and Artie, who have super personalities.

Dave was hot, and hot on FN for a while. I loved him, so cute and gay, but maybe too gay for them.

The only openly gay people on FN are lesbians and one of them couldn't have hidden it if she wanted. She looks like Guy Fieri in drag. (Wasn't she accidentally outed by Ted Allen, the guy who pretends he wasn't on Queer Eye?)

Tyler Florence comes off like a jerk sometimes, but he is very good looking. I remember when he was younger and he first started on the Food Network. He was hot!

I think Jeff Mauro is really good looking, straight right? Is Duff Goldman, Ty Pennington and that Italian stud, Johnny Iuzzini , gay?

I went to Tyler Florence's store north of San Francisco and was really shocked that it was filled with crappy, over-priced kitchen merchandise. Actually, I expected the prices but the quality of what was there was just crap....certainly no better than what you can get at Target.

Never heard of Fanny Cradock until I watched that clip, what a horror. Then I went to Wikipedia and read her entry, realized that she and the delightful Mary Berry were contemporaries in the post-war UK cooking-instruction scene. They must have crossed paths more than once, and I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to watch that!

I'd love to see Dave Lieberman cooking only in an apron. Yum!

That fat slob Mario Battali. He is gross with those stupid orange crocks. I was in the audience of The Chew last year and he is the only host who did not interact with the audience at all during commercial breaks. And as soon as the show was over, he disappeared, while all of the other hosts came out and thanked the audience for coming and shook hands and had pics taken.

Ugh, that Vivian person on PBS. That annoying pronunciation of 'o's that she has. Oh, and the fact that she and her husband were in NY, and her parents promised to give them money to open a restaurant, but only if it's in the middle of godforsaken North Carolina. Hideous people.

Scott Conant? What's to hate? I could make a meal of his nutsack, just for starters. Hot hot hot!

[quote]I went to Tyler Florence's store north of San Francisco and was really shocked that it was filled with crappy, over-priced kitchen merchandise.

Same with Michael Chiarello's store in Yountville.

Didn't Dave Lieberman get the ax for some sexual transgression?

What sort of sexual transgression could get you fired from FN?

Forget about the Blow Job Queen, I give Giada a pass all things considered. The real freak is Rachel Ray. (The tabloids have repeatedly run stories about her kinky marriage but she's never sued, not even any sabre rattling.) The most often repeated story is about her husband hiring femdoms who spit in his face.

What do you guys think of Richard Blais?

Well? is Duff Goldman, Ty Pennington, and Johnny Iuzzini gay? Anyone?

Duff? Yes, but who cares?

I can't believe Blais is married and has two kids. I mean, really. When someone upthread said that the only out people on FN are the lesbians, I thought "What about Blais?" Gayer. Tree. Full of Parrots.

Ludo Lebrevre (sp?) Can't stand his act nor can I understand what he's saying! He ruined that show, The Taste, for me. I really liked that show; too bad it was cancelled.

The woman who hosts "Christina Cooks," Christina Pirello. She only cooks healthy foods (she was diagnosed with AML, some kind of leukemia).

[quote]Christina Cooks

The way she carries on, you'd think tofu was edible. Cannot watch her. Hope she doesn't come back.

R198, I watched her show for shock value but do remember one tofu-centric episode. In one dish, she coated it in nuts or nut flour and it wouldn't stick when she turned it over. Of course in the final shot of the dish it was perfect. For another dish, she claimed she oiled the grill well and told us to do the same so the tofu wouldn't stick. Guess what happened to hers?

How could you have watched it, R199?

It's a train wreck, that's how!

* Her pans are never hot enough

*She can't find the RIGHT wooden spoon of the thousands she has on the counter

*She has/had that smarmy Harry Connick, Jr wanna-be that plays a song for her on his guitar. Apparently, he's there to keep the audience from watching her dishes being dumped in the garbage in favor of the "tv ready" ones. I think his name is John. She'll turn to him and say something like, "John, do you have a song that will go with X dish?" and he'll say "Sure," and start strumming and "singing."

Along with cooking stuff no one would eat, Christina Pirello is a big ol' Republican who likes to slide her political views into her cooking shows.

Here's a pic (sorry it's so low-res) of hottie Tyler Florence when he was younger, slimmer, and edible.

I want to say Emeril Lagasse because he started the entire Food Network chef as celebrity and turning cooking shows from instruction to entertainment. I want to say I hate him but since he left FN I can't blame him for the monstrosity it has become, but he did spawn it.

[quote] I can’t stand Ina Hippo Garten .Ever since she snubbed that little boy who had cancer who wanted to see her

Don't forget what she did to the couple who worked for her for years and years. They saved every penny and took out a loan to buy her business from her. She owned the Barefoot Contessa in East Hampton. They bought the business from her and as soon as the contract was signed, they got the lease renewal for the building.. Ina sold them the business, but bought the building. She raised the rent so outrageously (knowing exactly how much the business made every year) that they could not afford it. They went out of business. She knew what she was doing

At least she keeps the United Shent Makers Local #341 employed.

Love you, R206.

[quote]I want to say Emeril Lagasse because he started the entire Food Network chef as celebrity and turning cooking shows from instruction to entertainment. I want to say I hate him but since he left FN I can't blame him for the monstrosity it has become, but he did spawn it.

He also knew when to jump ship.

Had no idea chefs inspired so much hatred.

But, DL, so...

I think that the word "chef" is overused these days. Rene Redzepi is a chef. Ferran Adria is a chef. Alice Waters is a chef. Jacques Pepin is a chef. But these days, a lot of people who technically should be known as "culinary personalities" are being labelled "chefs", even if they never worked a day in a restaurant. Julia Child, to my knowledge, trained at Le Cordon Bleu but was never a chef. To be a chef, you'd have to work in a restaurant and reach a high enough rank to be even an assistant chef, otherwise you're merely a cook. And being a chef entails more than just knowing how to make a four-course meal with rare ingredients, foam, and a sous vide machine that costs more money than a house in the suburbs. Unfortunately, shows like "Top Chef" don't showcase that. You can be the biggest asshole on Earth, not know shit about leadership and hospitality, and have a dead body stewing inside a 50-gallon drum outside, but as long as you can make a quail consommé or other pretentious bullshit, that $100,000 is yours.

R205, I didn't know that, WOW!! That is disgusting!

R210, I totally agree with you. Jacques Pepin said he and many other chefs get disgusted by those reality cooking shows when the host of the show like Robert Irvin, Gordon Ramsey, and many others yell at the employees and the owners of the restaurants. He said that is totally unprofessional. Jacques, said on the contrary, a professional chief never ever yells in the kitchen and belittle the staff. He said the chief usually gives a quiet signal to the staff and they follow what he or she wants them to do.

Jacques Pepin is a dumb cunt. I saw him riding a bicycle without a helmet in busy midtown traffic NYC.

I didn't know that either R205. If that is true I have a whole different take on Miss Ina. That's about as low as you can go.

Uh, R213, I know what R205 stated in his or her post what Ina did is completely horrible, but Ina ditching a kid who has cancer isn't the lowest Ina has gone?

R205 thanks for that. Between Lidia keeping a slave worker, Mario stealing tips and now reading this I've come to understand that success only comes to the truly shittiest people alive.

Yes, Ina did that to the to The Parkers who bought The Barefoot Contessa business back in the 1990s. They had no choice but to sell the business back to Garten at a bargain price

And all of her pals considered it a genius business manoeuvre

Sorry, it's the Hodges who bought the contessa

What I don't understand is the bitch has money, why did she need to ruin her employees? Clearly it's just a cunt move and demonstrates why everyone hates the rich.

This troubles me. I thought Ina was one of the good guys.

Her excuse was that Citarella moved into East Hampton and was taking business away from the Barefoot Contessa. She didn't want the Barefoot Contessa to be second best, so she crashed it.

Martha Stewart is not a "chef". I don't get why so many of you love her. What's so special about her recipes? They're pretty commonplace for those of us who can cook. Her personality makes her insufferable.

[quote]Jacques, said on the contrary, a professional chief never ever yells in the kitchen and belittle the staff.

And yet he belittled his own daughter on his cooking show until she quit. He's now got his granddaughter on the show sometimes, but i"m sure his daughter is watching closely.

R214, some of us don't consider the story of that whiny little cancer brat whose mother tried to use him to get herself on Ina's show to be a mark against Ina. What next, wounded warriors? Having a cooking show doesn't mean she is required to provide a forum for everyone who wants it.

Nigella and Jamie Oliver

Does anyone have any information about the rumored Martha Stewart/Ina Garten falling out? Was it a true friendship or just a professional business relationship? What happened?

[quote][R214], some of us don't consider the story of that whiny little cancer brat whose mother tried to use him to get herself on Ina's show to be a mark against Ina.

He didn't want to be on the show, he just wanted to get to cook with her.

R223 = Jeffrey, husband of Ina

If Ina liked kids, she might have had some.

The thing is, while no celebrity is under any obligation to meet with sick children, I can't imagine that other people that we've talked about in this thread--even Rachael Ray--probably wouldn't have done it, if only to milk the positive publicity.

[quote]And yet he belittled his own daughter on his cooking show until she quit.

I couldn't stand Jacques Pepin after watching him dress down Claudine like that. I watched for less than a season, gave his books away, and didn't buy any more.

An earlier post mentioned Jeff Smith (aka, The Frugal Gourmet - PBS, mid-to-late 1980s).

He used to have an assistant, Craig, who was so fuckin' sexy!!! I used to watch the show hoping he would be on.

Wasn't Jeff Smith a pedophile?

Jeff Smith was allegedly fucking some of those assistants. Until several of the underage ones spoke up. He settled out of court and his TV show was canceled. He died a few years later.

I was just going to come in here to vent and commiserate about the cloying obnoxiousness of Ree Drummond but now I'm just going to marvel at the phrase "whiny little cancer brat." I've now read it all, thank you DL.

R230 doesn't understand the French idea of "comme il faut."

R233 -

So the story goes. But Craig, the one I crushed on, was clearly over 18. More like early twenties.

R8, mother! I didn't know you were on the Datalounge!

(only a 78 year old would use the term homewrecker)

R237, there's at least one DL poster who is always going on about women being homewreckers (but not men who do the same thing), and sluts if they're sexually active. It's like a time warp to 1950.

What is so "comme il faut" about being such a cunt, R235? I know what it means, but JP is a nasty bitch for no apparent reason.

Rachel Ray wins this one hands down. She's turned into a fat, frumpy, drunken,obnoxious, screeching loud mouth who doesn't know when to shut up. I can't even stand the sight of her anymore.

Better lay off of Lidia or cousin Guido will deal with you in the appropriate manner.

I didn't know Christina Pirello was a Republican. I'm vegan, and I used to like her, but I haven't watched her in years. She jumped the shark when that annoying singer joined the show; I used to mute it during those interludes. Her weird statements about the medicinal qualities of foods and how things are "warming" or "cooling" to the body were a bit much for me, too, and she always used that same giraffe-spotted wooden spoon.

R239, JP is always bitching about his wife and how she doesn't let him do things like fry food inside the house. I figure he can't stand up to the wife so he takes it out on Claudine.

JP's wife is very mannish. I don't remember him berating Claudine, but I couldn't stand that wench, anyway. What would he say to her?

She would ask a simple question or make an innocuous comment and he would fly all over her. She always looked at the director expecting them to cut the scene, but for some reason they didn't. When that series ended, she stopped appearing with him except for a couple of quick family scenes a couple of years later that included Claudine's husband and child and Mrs. Pepin.

It doesn't matter whether any of us like her; she's his daughter and he was very disrespectful. I always liked him dating back to the wonderful shows he did with Julia Child, but the way he treated his daughter changed how I felt about him.

[quote]I didn't know Christina Pirello was a Republican.

I didn't either, until she made several snide little political digs on her cooking shows. I quit watching her, so I have no idea whether she continued.

The musician adds nothing to her cooking shows.

Not defending Ina, I find her snotty, but wasn't it the cancer victim's mom who was trying to meet Ina and using the kid as leverage?

Ina's husband is the Dean of Yale's School of Management

[quote]wasn't it the cancer victim's mom who was trying to meet Ina and using the kid as leverage?

Yes, that's exactly what was going on. The kid couldn't have cared less about Ina Garten.

Watching Ina on TBC now, with her having one of those cringeworthy nervous laughing fits. What's up with that? .The uncontrollable laughter usually occurs when she is entertaining her phony snobby friends, with her being the only one laughing in the room while her guests are just trying to have normal conversation. It must be awfully embarrassing for everyone involved.

It's to cover when she farts.

[quote]Watching Ina on TBC now, with her having one of those cringeworthy nervous laughing fits. What's up with that?

That's when the poppers kick in.

R249, that is not true. There were two chefs who volunteered, one of them was Beau MacMillan but I don't remember who the other chef was.They were both outraged by Ina's behavior and they teamed up together to see the little boy and spend some time with the little kid. The two chefs would not have volunteered if they knew the mother was behind it. They investigate things like this first. They don't just rush right into something without checking out what are the factors involved. And if Ina was in the right and the mother was behind it, they wouldn't have bothered spending time with the little boy.

Alton Brown is the biggest prick on the planet. Hate him and Bobby Flay. Most male chefs are assholes though - I can't think of too many that I'd like to hang out with.

Does anyone remember the late 1980s PBS show Dinner at Julia's? I loved it. It was so chi-chi elegant and JC didn't even cook. They always had some other dude doing all the cooking. By this time she was getting rather up there in years. It was, after all, almost 30 years after her first show (1961).

R195, Duff Goldman is gay?!! How do you know? What about the other two guys?

[quote]wasn't it the cancer victim's mom who was trying to meet Ina and using the kid as leverage?

No, that's bullshit created by fans of that fat, elitist cunt.

The request wasn't made by the mother. It was made by the Make a Wish foundation, who check the requests out thoroughly to assure they're legit. She turned the kid down saying she was "too busy." At a lster daye, they asked again and were told she'd never be available. Instead, Make a Wish arranged for him swim with a dolphin. Probably more fun than cooking with a killer whale, in any case.

R253 The other chef was Michael Symon.

God, I was half asleep.

At a lster daye = At a later date

for him swim = for him to swim

Ryan Scott and his public girlfriend...he is a major faggot cocksucker and does the pretense for his career.

It's official, I don't like Ina Garten anymore.

Like I care, R260. I have an absentees husband, tons of hot gay hangers-on, and a fabulous estate in the Hamptons. Go away, you bore me.

Hopefully you'll die from a stroke or heart attack. Or even better Ina, get stuck in a door.

Of course Ina will die from something or another. Don't we all?

I don't care that Ina Garten refused to honor the Make A Wish request. That's the same group that paid donor money to take a kid out to kill a whale because that was his wish. Too bad that kid was dying, but Garten didn't owe him a cooking lesson.

Make-A-Wish won't do anything having to do with hunting.

Another vote for Todd English. Macho twat.

Then they've changed their minds, R264. They may have gotten so much backlash from that whale hunting mess they decided to set parameters. I checked Wikipedia, which says:

[quote]Make-A-Wish stopped granting wishes involving the gift or use of firearms or other weapons, including fishing tackle, designed to cause animal injury in 1996. This was largely due to the pressure from animal-sensitive donors, regardless of the child's wish.

Animal-killing versions of Make A Wish have sprung up to satisfy children's desire to kill something before they leave the world.

I thought this was funny in the Wikipedia article:

[quote]In the South Park episode, Kenny Dies, the Make-A-Wish Foundation is heavily satirized when they visit Kenny in the hospital and asks what his one wish is. Kenny's wish is not to die, which is met with a long and uncomfortable silence in the room. They ask Kenny if has a second wish, perhaps to meet Madonna, to which Kenny replies, "Madonna is an old, anorexic whore who wore out her welcome years ago and now she suddenly speaks with a British accent and she thinks she can play guitar. She should go fuck herself."

Right, r264, but only because of the bad press they got when they sent a kid on a spring Kodiak bear hunt. Instead, another group -- Hunt of a Lifetime -- handles their hunting requests.

R257 Michael Symon didn't seem to have an attitude towards Ina when she appeared on The Chew. She's been on more than once. They seemed friendly

Glad to hear Symon was professional with the mad cow.

R222, I thought I was crazy when he would be completely rude to his daughter. No need to special snowflake her, but he was really harsh sometimes.

Just the ones with TV shows.

I was channel surfing and I passed by the Rachel Ray show. They had make overs that were beyond hideous and Rachel was saying oh wow you look amazing, Blah, Blah I felt so badly for those women. If you ever noticed Racheal Ray dresses terribly.

Rachel has a horrible body. Good legs and a decent rear, but basically shapeless with an almost non-existent neck.

Lidia Bastianich she's not even really actually Italian she and her family are from Croatia. Her son is annoying as well.

Rachel Ray's cooking is gross I saw her the other morning where she made schnitzel and put crushed pretzels on the pork or chicken.

JOse Andres does drink a lot R134.

I also find Anthony Bourdain annoying since he's like R138 described one of those old men who acts like he's still in his early 20s or in college.

Guy Fieri. Fat fuck never says anything bad about the diners, drive ins and dives.

They're all dives. He's not a chef. He drools over disgusting prepackaged mixes.

Ugatzu Moritakisoto, pompous ass.

All the ones who use meat.

People should do the research about Ina. She didn't know the child wanted to see her, it was all be handled by the people doing her calendar. She spoke with mother. The mother said she understood the mistake and there was no ill will at all. Perhaps we could let this go?

R267, the sooner those child- hunters kick off, the better.

R280 she's still a cunt like that Lidia Bastianich fraud who is not even really Italian and who is well off yet forced some woman to become her slave.

related thread.

related thread about Lidia Bastianach keeping a slave.

PAULA DEEN

Everyone on the TV show the chew, they're obnoxious and annoying, and not good at cooking.

alice waters is not a chef. never attended ANY culinary schools. she trained to be a Montessori teacher, she graduated from UC Berkeley, She received a degree in French Cultural Studies in 1967 and she traveled a lot in Europe....does not a chef make.

I never saw Pepin dress down Claudine but the way he says sal-ahhhhd instead of salad drives me.....

christopher kimball sucks funny you can't find 1 picture of him at 300 and something pounds on line.....

fucking kelly from saved by the bell cooking show and that dry, monotone motherfucker's wife ayesha curry, bitch where did you come from?----food network is going down hill and I fucking loathe all these stupid shows like cupcake wars? wtf CUPCAKE WARS!!??

I liked Richard Blais well enough during his stints as a contestant on Top Chef. His neurosis were charming up to a point. But since winning and becoming a judge, he's insufferable. He's a total fame-whore, and it's cringe-worthy. I also agree with the poster upthread who said that he pings.

Also, I admired Tom Colicchio's dressing down of John Besh after the #metoo allegations. Is Colicchio actually admired among other chefs for his cooking, or is his fame almost entirely from Top Chef?