Porno Complaints!

"There are plenty of masculine gay guys out there. "

Where? Links? Evidence?

No more uglies, please.

Oh, and STOP WITH THE SHAVING AND WAXING.

I'm not saying I want to see some fat bear slob with fur so thick it looks like he's wearing a sweater, but stop waxing and shaving your models.

There are far more "straight" guys out there than there are openly gay guys. Magnitudes more, just a simple matter of numbers

I prefer the G4P guys...or at least Bi.

Then why complain, R5? That's what all "gay porn" is now.

So many complaints but off the top of my head:

1. Stop zooming in on the dick going in the ass for the majority of the scene. Am I really the only gay out there who doesn't want to see that for most of the scene? I love seeing both guys' faces and entire bodies. I don't mind if they zoom in briefly but it shouldn't be the focus.

2. Stop with all the damn tattoos. There's no reason why most of the top porn guys these days have to have tat sleeves and all over their bodies.

3. More diversity! I'm beyond sick of redneck-looking porn. I want to see more interracial porn. There are hot guys of every background.

4. Go back to the beautiful muscular guys they used to have. The hipster beards, ugly faces etc are a turnoff.

5. I hate scenes in which the top doesn't do anything but fuck the bottom. I can't believe some gays would get off on watching a bottom suck dick, rim and then get fucked while the top does nothing else.

6. I stop watching a scene if the guys don't kiss and go right to oral or fucking.

7. Enough of the fucking fetish porn scenes that increasingly seem to be more "normal" in porn. I just like passionate, romantic sex. I don't want to see smelly underwear, fisting, armpit worship, water sports, sub/dom etc...

8. Stop with the spitting in each other's mouths! What the hell is that about? No, spitting isn't the same as kissing. That's bizarre. Yes we swap spit while kissing but spitting into someone's mouth is not a turn-on.

OP and R7 I agree with most of your list. I would add these items:

1. Stop the kissing at the beginning and the end of a scene. I want kissing- real kissing- throughout. If they can't kiss than their fucking is irrelevant.

2. Stop thinking I need to watch a forty minute scene with ten minutes of sucking, twenty minutes of fucking and two seconds of set up. Older porn accomplished all of those things within ten minutes to fifteen minutes, and was more of a turn on. No one fucks or thinks of fucking for forty minutes like that. Why can't they just jerk off or kiss and make out and come? Do they need to fuck every time?

3. Create a real story. A story that continues throughout the scene. Porn acting often forgets the acting to get the porn. Without a real story you have no fantasy. My fantasy is not to watch two uncomfortable gay4pay guys try to earn a living.

4. Unlike R7 I like fetishes- although they can be romantic as well. But please no more straight to gay in sixty seconds, especially where the " straight" guy claims he has never done this before, and ten minutes later he is taking it up the ass.

5. Please no more models in street clothes. I hate tennis shoes, dirty white socks, and designer underwear. Real people wear decent clothes- fantasy people should be well dressed.

6. Finally have real fantasies. I don't live in a sunshine state. My desire is more about chemistry than fucking by the pool. And stop fucking in uncomfortable places. The models are uncomfortable. I am uncomfortable watching them, and my dick has turned to CNN.

No more "uHHHH...mah gurl is outa town, and she doesn't suck mah dik anyway."

[quote]I have self respect and no longer fetishize straight guys as some ideal. There are plenty of masculine gay guys out there.

Now That's Funny !!!

[quote]2. Stop with all the damn tattoos. There's no reason why most of the top porn guys these days have to have tat sleeves and all over their bodies.

Yes, start scouting at upper white colleges. Better looking boys, less likely to have the tattoos found on white trash, blacks.

Take off your socks! Especially those low cut socks and colored socks. And wash your feet!

Ass licking annoys me a lot. I also loathe fisting and dildos. If i need something inside, i prefer cock, or fingers into me. That's flesh, not something inanimate invading my baby hole.

2) Do the bottoms always have to be nelly queens or pale, hairless, underfed, drugged out manorexics?

I didn't know there were any other kinds of bottoms out there...

We need something for everyone. I prefer natural cocks. One thing I couldn't find was one of those guys who has his c&b surgically removed getting fucked in the ass.

Hairy chest and anus would be nice. Kissing, yes! Passion, yes! Smiling, yes!

No one has hired Levi Jackson to do porn.

Another thing-stop having scenes in public bathrooms/pit stops etc. I refuse to watch those. Those give gays a bad image.

R18

And you're a model fairy are you ?

And you're a model cunt, R19. (Not a question.)

Pornos set in pit stops? Give me titles!

To each their own.

What R12 said! Always with those stupid socks.

Who looks at feet?

1. More athletic socks. Keep the athletic socks on, including the crew socks that are really popular now. They enhance the masculinity and athleticism of the models. But make sure the socks are clean and in great shape.

2. More Black dudes. Find a way to recruit more masculine, goodlooking, muscular Black jocks. More dudes who look like Sean Costin and XL!

3. Stop with that tatts. They are gross and trashy. Studios that don't hire dudes with tatts get my support.

4. More clean cut All-American jocks and fitness models. They are still the ultimate Alpha Male fantasy guys, and the more of them you have, the more successful your studio will be.

5. No more nasty, weird, or vile raunch. I am turned off by and avoid raunch and weirdo stuff. Keep it hot but clean.

I was a big fan of Joe Gage up until recently. Lots of hot, hairy, masculine guys. Eye contact. Slow, drawn out scenes with lots of tension. A good variety of dirty talk other than "Fuck yeah! Fuck that ass!" and such. Lots of good stuff.

Then he decided to start putting incest or hinting at it in nearly all his films, and it creeped me out.

I'm no frigid frau by any means, but that's one of the "weirdo" things that turns me off.

NO to dress socks and nerd socks. Yes to studly white/grey jock socks though.

I agree with you about Gage R26. He knows how to make a scene hot rather than just two guys start fucking.

[quote]1. More athletic socks. Keep the athletic socks on, including the crew socks that are really popular now. They enhance the masculinity and athleticism of the models. But make sure the socks are clean and in great shape.

No, no, no, no, no.

They're so awful, who cares what shape they're in, you prissy sissy?

r29, take your meds, dude.

I agree with OP, R7, R8 and whoever shares their views. I was also wondering where all that shit came from. I used to think most guys were into this. I'm relieved to discover I'm not the only one.

Right, R30. "Meds" for me because you have terrible taste.

NO condoms please !!!!!

The lack of an interrupting mid session title card announcing "Our models have had much lube and a dildo up their ass for a considerable length of time before reciprocal model so easily and quickly penetrated them. Do not try this at home."

I'm tired of the over-preponderance over thugged-out black guys, both in all-black porn and interracial porn. Not all black guys come straight out of the hood, saying "yeah nigga," and "fuck dat azz." In fact, many black guys don't mind bottoming for a white guy at all, but you hardly ever see it filmed and distributed. It's sad that I have to resort to Brazilian porn to see an abundance of hot nonthugged-out black guys.

[quote]Either be creative with your dirty talk, or have your actors shut up.

What do you want them to do, tell knock-knock jokes?

Maybe recite the periodic table?

[quote]I was a big fan of Joe Gage up until recently. Lots of hot, hairy, masculine guys. Eye contact. Slow, drawn out scenes with lots of tension. A good variety of dirty talk other than "Fuck yeah! Fuck that ass!" and such. Lots of good stuff. Then he decided to start putting incest or hinting at it in nearly all his films, and it creeped me out. I'm no frigid frau by any means, but that's one of the "weirdo" things that turns me off.

r26, I used to watch his stuff too until I saw a couple of interviews he gave on thesword site (I linked one of them below). There seemed to be some very thinly veiled homophobia on his part. But the really shocking thing to me was when he talked about his moving into incest porn. He's bi and was married to a woman while he was doing all this gay porn, they had two children. This is the quote:

[quote]No it doesn’t. My family is totally separate from all of this. It’s just my work at this point. Both of my kids are young adults now. One of them just got married a couple of weeks ago. They’re both straight. When my wife first got pregnant with our first kid, I thought, how weird is this gonna be. I’m gonna be a guy who has sex with men and women, what’s it going to be to have a boy around? Can I trust myself if a situation arises down the road? But as soon as you have a kid, for me, and I would say for 99% of the people in the world, you realize that’s not even a consideration, it’s a totally different thing. There’s no chance anything like that could happen

It was just shocking that he would say anything like that, as if gay/bi man should have any concerns when deciding to be a father. It was so creepy, I was so offended that I can't really stomach his porn any more.

More internal cum shots with throbbing, pulsating cocks.

I love this video .Quite well done and realistic

Well so long as we're complaining:

1. Enough with the shaved models. I want to see some real 70s-style pubes. There is nothing sexy about a guy whose pubes and pit hair has been shaved off. Looking at you Sean and Corbin

2. Enough with the tattoos, though I suspect that it's hard to find a guy desperate enough to do porn who is tat-free. But at least encourage them not to get new ones.

3. More kissing while they're fucking

4. No more of those fake kisses at the end before the cameraman says "cut"

5. No more soft-cock tops. If he can't stay hard, don't use the shot

6. Shorter videos are better. I wind up skipping through the 30 minute ones.

7. Internal cum shots are so much hotter than cream pies

8. No more magic condoms (the top is teasing the bottom's hole bare, then he inserts it and when he pulls back out he has a condom on) show the lube and condom-- that's hot.

9. Mix up ages some. Not "Daddy porn" but guys in their early 20s fucking with guys in their early 30s

10. Those bisexual scenes on CorbinFisher aren't fooling anyone.

1. No more "trade tops" (guys who only fuck and get sucked, but don't reciprocate or kiss or rim.)

2. More flip-flop scenes.

3. More Middle Eastern and Southern Asian (Indian/Pakistani) models.

11. No more acrobatic positions like where the bottom is basically standing on his head and the top is pushing his dick down with his hand so it'll go in the hole. None of that.

Let us know how your list(s) of complaints pan out for you fellas ...................

Yeah, it's time for tattoos to disappear for a while. Their over saturation in porn has become distracting. Porn is masturbation material. If you have to close your eyes to imagine the performers with less distracting ink it has not done its job.

R40 I agree that is an excellent scene which works for three main reasons:

1. You believe in the tension and the release which goes on even while they have sex.

2. There is real chemistry between the men- who aren't too young or old, or too straight or gay. And they are well dressed.

3 . There is more foreplay, more eye contact, more real words and more full body shots. ( those guys were also a real couple at the time- that always translate well).

I hate spitting. Its like in every. single. video. now the top hawks up this huge wad of saliva and spits right on this dick before inserting. I know we are talking about anal sex and dudes eating assholes but something about that spitting just turns me off.

Im also tired of masculine bottoms. I guess more guys are into masculine bottoms but I am not. It is so boring to watch. I like fem guys that sound like bitches. There, I said it.

Stop fetishising straight men with videos about gay men leering and acting like predators towards straight men. (Men.com are easily the worst at this self-loathing homophobia with video after video about straight men being 'seduced' by gay pervs).

Stop putting performers in positions where they look like pretzels. Sean Cody is the worst for this. Upside down, on the sides of bath tubs, there was even one scene where they managed to get two performers in a position where each had their dicks in the other's ass. Bizarre and not erotic.

The tatts can be overwhelming on some sites, but most of these guys aren't exactly Rhodes Scholars so you can't expect too much. However, when you see freaks like Logan McCree on film you have to wonder who the audience is for human garbage like that.

And I want to see men on film not boys. Do NOT shave your pubes, because I am NOT a pedophile. That is disgusting. Corbin Fisher do this a lot, and make it worse with performers appalling hair cuts that make them look like they've just walked out of the Hitler Youth movement.

And gay men must be the most racist people on the planet, as porn companies repeatedly say no one wants black, Asian or latino models on their rosters. Hence 3 black men and one Asian on Sean Cody in 10 years and 2 black guys and no Asians on Corbin Fisher in 11 years .

Bottoms should make more noise when they're getting fucked. It's boring when everyone is quiet and the only thing you hear is sirens passing by whatever sleazy motel they're shooting in.

This approaches what I can get into. The top guy enjoying the bottom, the bottom eventually enjoying the top (when both are on the bed). They don't look sleazy and drugged out at all.

Although they're young and white, I would've liked it just as much if they'd been older, black, latino, asian, middle eastern, or any combination thereof. Shit, just get together and fuck without it becoming acrobatic and fetishistic every damn time.

Condoms ruin scenes. Might as well be using a dildo.

I agree with most of the above, especially about more racial diversity. I love black, latino, and middle eastern men, but rarely see them in porn except to play the stereotype thug top. Hate that.

Disagree about socks and kissing, though. I have a sock fetish, so love to see a guy's socked feet. White athletic or black dress socks paired with a suit is hot hot hot. Just don't want to see them dirty or with holes.

Some kissing is okay with me, but I like my porn to be kind of nasty and purely sexual. The over the top focus on kissing makes it look like the porno was made by some frau who will only refer to sex as "making love." I don't want to watch "lovemaking." I want to watch FUCKING. As long as the bottom is hard, anyway. And masculine. And not drugged out. And not a femmy manorexic. You get the picture.

Go back in time and make porn with men who look like the men I remember from 30/40years ago! No sleeve tattoos or hipster beards! I want to see hairless "hunks" in neon thongs with mousse in their frosted hair! Where are my pills?

My major complaints

not enough pornos show the ass getting crammed -- with the dick pulling out, shoving in, seeing some gap, hearing some sloppy wet air suction noises, etc etc

conversely, not enough long shots.

Not enough close-up shots of the two faces. during the fucking.

I also want to see shots of hands and feet, please

I wouldn't mind some story, even if the flimsiest. I wouldn't mind more talking before the fucking.

I like the taboo all-in-the-family stuff from Joe Gage...although I think he could do a better job with the dialogue and situations.

[quote]It was just shocking that he would say anything like that, as if gay/bi man should have any concerns when deciding to be a father. It was so creepy, I was so offended....

Just SHOCKING! I was soooo OFFENDED!

Well aren't we precious.

No bare feet

Whatever happened to all the hot Brazilian stuff? It seems to have dried up in the last decade or so.

[quote]I like the taboo all-in-the-family stuff from Joe Gage...although I think he could do a better job with the dialogue and situations.

Joe Gage is probably the worst offender (along with Dink Flamingo) in the "nothing-but-whites" category.

It's interesting how we're all so picky and spoiled about porn now. I am too, but I also remember how it was 40 years ago when we were happy for a naked dick or some straight porn. There were no VCRs; all we had were magazines, 8mm films, or adult theaters. And 50 years ago, there really wasn't even much of those things, except VERY underground.

[quote]Joe Gage is probably the worst offender (along with Dink Flamingo) in the "nothing-but-whites" category.

Worst offender of what? There's plenty of porn out there for all tastes: interracial, all white, all black, all asian....what ever makes you hard.

R60 you know that 80% of gay porn is all white.

I was about to start a thread about the most vile habit in porn. That AWFUL spitting!

I have NEVER spit in someone's mouth or on his ass. NEVER.

I have NEVER been spit on. The first person that tries will be at the dentist's office soon after.

[quote]you know that 80% of gay porn is all white.

If that statistic is true, considering that 73% of the US population is white, the demographics pretty much work out.

The percent of the US population that is non-hispanic white is actually at 63%, not 73% btw.

From the CIA factback:

"white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate) note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic"

Should read: "CIA Fact Book"

Note: Blacks are less than 13% of the population and Asians are only 4.43.

Jesus fucking Christ, purposely all-white porn companies are racist, full stop. If you're putting out dozens of videos a month with groups scenes where every last performer looks like a Hitler Youth scoutmaster covered in white power tattoos, that's not coincidence or "representitive of demographics." It's a very pointed business strategy built on bigotry. Stop pretending otherwise. You look REALLY stupid.

And Dink Flamingo is the worst offender because the demographics of the military reflect a MUCH higher percentage of non-whites than the general population.

We really need an affirmative action program for the porn industry.

I fucking hate how almost every model wears hideous Andrew Christian underwear these days.

Absolutely. Andrew Christian underwear really effeminizes men. There is nothing manly or hot about it.

Anyone notice an inordinate amount of guys with "the sniffles" in porn? No, I doubt they've got colds, probably high on meth or coke.

It's called product placement, bitches!

I get a bit sniffly from Viagra.

I hate that porn performers have become mini-celebrities with their twitter accounts, Amazon wishlists and endless social media presence. I don't want the fantasy ruined by the reality of the guy being a complete douche, which unfortunately is the case in 95% of performers. I don't want to hear about how straight you are; I don't want to buy you a plane ticket to Memphis and I don't appreciate you calling your fans 'fags'. Sean Cody was the best site because you never saw those guys on social media, until Mind Geek bought them and now they're everywhere (and, unfortunately, among the most racist and homophobic performers out there). At least Corbin Fisher keeps their models off Twitter.

of course we have the racist white defenders here.

There's no reason why there can't be A LOT more diversity in porn.

[quote] And gay men must be the most racist people on earth as most porn companies say no one black, Asian or Latino

Maybe that's just the American porn business in general ? Most straight porn from PLAYBOY magazine to the filthiest of films seem to utilize far more whites. Black men only seem to be desired when they possess huge meat. Asian men, rarely (sought after) though much straight porn features Asian chicks which I believe it's because they're exotic & smaller.

[quote]We really need an affirmation program in the porn industry !

Not until there's one that places Asians into the world of professional football. Oh, I know that doesn't count because as long as there's plenty of black representation, no one complains !

No pimples on face, body, or butt!

R62. That's just your preference. Spitting is hot from about the ages of 16 to 36. Can be very hot.

You have a limited sexual palette. Which you have a right to of course.

R81, get some help, hon.

There is nothing hot about spitting, and that clip you linked to is just disturbing.

Jeez.

Spitting is fine, as long as chewing tobacco is not involved.

A lot of amateur tops just hold their phones over their dick as it slides in an out of bottom. That shit is boring as hell, unless you have really good bottom with a fat ass that is worth the close up.

Too much raunch, gross, and subculture weirdo stuff.

I laugh at the folks here who seem to believe that porn is made in a vacuum. The porn companies are racists! Ha! Firstly, the "porn companies" no longer exist. What's left of them is dwindling fast, as they struggle to survive. And they won't, because nobody pays for porn any more. Second, they're racist because that's the only genre that pays. The cold, harsh truth is that porn is perhaps the most market-driven product Imagineable.

Pornographers -- the professionals, at least -- struggle to make the hot new film, but there is no broad- based acceptance of what's hot and what's not because everyone's tastes are different. Just look at the complaints on this thread. Obviously, if no one was into tattoos, they wouldn't be so popular. If no one was into spitting, they wouldn't have included it in so many scenes. If fisting wasn't the "it" activity for a minute, there wouldn't be hundreds of fisting movies made. If incest wasn't the topic that grabbed everyone's attention for a nanosecond, Joe Gage wouldn't allude to it (and certainly wouldn't have made the ridiculous statements he did about his own children!).

We live in the modern era in which everyone carries around in their pocket the same level of equipment that professionals paid thousands of dollars for just a few years ago. Tumblr offers up an uncountable number of blogs that focus on niches so narrow that those who follow them can be as a few as one or two. Xtube will show you any scene you want for a few pennies. My point is that porn is no longer an industry, no longer a tastemaker, and no longer a commercially viable product.

Don't like what you see? Make your own.

To add to r86's rant, porn is about fantasy, seeing sexual acts you wouldn't participate in yourself being performed by people you'd never have a chance with. If you're not into the stuff going on in a porno, there are five billion other pornos that you probably will enjoy. Everything doesn't have to fit in your narrow view.

No more dirty feet, no more shaved bodies and no more looping fuck scenes so it looks like they have fucked for hrs on end. Nobody fucks that long!

No more girly underwear and clothing

- costumes (uniforms, etc) keep them partially on for a longer time. If a fireman is fucking a cop, play with the helmet, etc. It's a fantasy. Once they're completely naked, it's not as interesting. Partially clothed, pants around the ankles implies a sense of urgency and risk = hot.

- location, location, location! Staid sets with a mere bed and some Ikea knick-knacks is not erotic (Sean Cody).

- hair. It's natural. stop trimming, manscaping, etc.

- tats; enough. You're not Samoan.

- sound: no more music. No more looping the 'Oohs' and 'Aahs.' Just the real slurpy sounds.

- language. Stop saying 'Shit!' while you're getting fucked. That's the last thing we want to think about.

- language. Spanish, French, Italian, Croatian! Language is sexy!

more enemas

No more tattoos.

I love tan lines, or no tan at all - hate all these fried looking fuckers who sleep in tanning beds. Hate Hate HATE all the spitting and all the stupid tats and lame piercings. I want natural looking men with rock hard dicks and real, horny passion where the guys look like they aren't there only for their next drug score. Most guys in straight porn actually seem glad to be there, just fucking the hell out of somebody, imagine that. And pull the camera back, film the entire bodies at different angles, and show more facial expressions. How in the hair gel do they get it wrong so much of the time? Oh well, here's an outtake from Shawshank Redemption with Tim & Morgan.

more restraints

More nipple play and nipple sucking of course! And not just for three seconds before the blow job either.

No feet stuff

making out, and more bondage

No Andrew Christian underwear

I hate fake moaning in porn, especially the bottoms who try and sound like they're seeing the face of God while sporting a limp dick and a dead eyed stare.

The last time I got fucked, I don't remember the guy pulling out and then wanking himself silly over my back, climaxing in a roar of "Oh fuck yeah! Yeah! Oh yeah!" And, look, if someone spoke to me like that? I'd punch his balls so hard they'd pop out his eyesockets.

Zooming in on the dick entering the ass for minutes and minutes. It is not that I dont like it, but I like to see the entire bodies. The sexual movements turn me on the most.

(Sidebar for straight porn) - Show the guy's ass! Stop zooming in sideways when the guy's doing doggy. We want to see his butt humping and his winking hole!

Earrings...caftans

Social media ruined porn for me almost.

All these hot guys I liked and then, after I got on Twitter, saw how creepy they acted, how they were all straight and anti-gay, and their constant requests for gifts. And these were guys who were hot and CONVINCING in their scenes! But once I saw their supposed "real selves" on Twitter, I couldn't watch them anymore.

I'm off Twitter now, but even HERE, every porn thread is about "Which Gay Porn Stars Fuck Women" and the like. Can't even avoid it here.

No more trash like Ty Roderick and Rogan Richards.

Even the gay ones fuck women, apparently R104. Many of them are sex addicts, and would probably fuck a goat if that was the only thing on offer that morning.

sexy sluts

more dirty dreams

I hate doggy style and any position that features limited body contact between the performers. Missionary is more intimate and body-to-body. Also having the top pin down the bottom with his entire body is very hot and intimate.

R108 we have similar tastes. I love the missionary position and I LOATHE when the two actors don't so much as kiss before the sex starts. Preferably they engage in some flirting and foreplay too.

I wish people would stop posting 5 or less minutes of a 25 minute porno and what the hell with all these 10 second clips, I can't get no satisfaction from 10 seconds, if it isn't at least 5-10 minutes long I am not wasting my time.

My biggest complaint - when you kiss, it does not need to sound like you are eating pudding out of a can....with a spatula.

Lol, that's a great line R111.