Millennials: When Did They Go Crazy?

Maybe it was something they ate. Like food.

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I agree with you, OP. I'm a millennial too, and I do not support the trans agenda or sjws getting upset over every minor little detail.

[quote]we marched to end the war

And not only is the war still not over, there are a bunch of other wars going on simultaneously.

I wonder if there is any correlation between the day millennials started going crazy, and the date Skynet became self-aware.

They went crazy 18 years after helicopter parenting came into vogue.

Now the college-age kids can't do anything or understand anything, and they believe that if someone they like gets upset then the world needs to overturn and all principles should be discarded. And they don't like many people, and get upset over everything.

Tumblr, internet, texting

Same with Trans and ISIS

Spending too much time inside.

They spent their childhood watching Spongebob. What did you expect?

THEY WENT CRAZY BECAUSE MOMMY AND DADDY TOLD THEM THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT!!!!!!

Nothing actually happened before 1990. But if it was, it was old and therefore boring and irrelevant.

Your silence is triggering!!

This thread is a safe space for Gen-Xers!

It started around the turn of this decade. Hopefully the worst parts of it will turn out to be a passing fad.

I do think we see the most extreme examples online, & can't say I've encountered a whole lot of SJWs in daily life. Maybe it's different if you live around a lot of college students.

Millennials are precious flowers that need to be protected and encouraged.

Is everyone in that generation an Indigo Child?

The perfect storm of Tumblr, Twitter and Facebook

They had no chance, really

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Using the word "crazy" makes you an ablest, OP.

They have no grounding in reality and nothing is really at stake for them. They've been cushioned and coddled since birth.

Mommy and Daddy pay for everything, blame everyone else for their special snowflakes' failings, and if they flunk out of school or can't get a job, well, they can just move back home.

They don't have to fight in wars, their peers aren't dying in combat or of AIDS, they don't even need to worry about getting a job.

So without perspective or stakes, they march for nap mats for all.

I hate to say it, but it's going to take another 9/11 (with a resulting draft) or epidemic for this generation to wake up and stop living these frivolous, conceptual lives.

R10 AND R17 ARE RIGHT!!!

Not an Uncommon Millennial (Female) Thought Process:

"Here's the thing, "OH WAIT!!! OMG I just have to deal with RIGHT NOW!!!!" (sends text full of secret coded abbreviations) - "What was the question? Oh yah yah, it's like Mom and Dad BOTH want me to forget going to Europe next summer OKAY?!?! and it's beyond EVIL! Now the new RULE is get serious, focus, and pick out a career. A CAREER! FFS! Whassup with that?"

"So it's all cool. I have it figured out. Mom KNOWS I LOVE rap and all that kind of music. Jayden ass -hole brother loves the vibe so much Dad brought him to a DRAKE CONCERT just for raking the leaves the other day. Pissed me off!! Anyway, I am not going to any f****** university. Mom said I could go to Miami cuz the condo is there. I said....MOM!! There is - look at me! - nothing in Miami. Except old people. I am not going anywhere to hang out with old people OKAY?"

"I've made a decision and that's it. I wanna be a singer and sing with some hot rappers and make a TUN of money. Sick of trying to explain this everybody. OMG!!!! (reads text message). Great - now I have to walk home because the dog got run over and she's gotta go to the vet. WHAT IS WRONGGGGGGG WITH HER!? I'm texting Dad - this is bullshit!! See ya!"

We have often remarked on how annoying and stupid they get when they try to be political; admonishing each other for failing to be a good ally to Trans women of color on Thanksgiving or accusing each other of using ablest language, while ignoring any serious or important issues. Etc.

War in the middle east? Bo-ring! Oceans dying due to pollution and climate change? No way, we're organizing a protest because our campus contains reminders of racism!

What drives them to action is seeing someone get their feelings hurt, someone they empathize with - even if the person who got their feelings hurt is in the wrong! The reason that drives them to action is that their ludicrous parents did the same; if the teacher hurt their feelings by giving them a poor grade or by pointing out misbehavior, their parents would rush in and demand that little Snowflake get their way and the bad person apologize to them, whether Snowflake was right or wrong. So these kids have grown up with no sense of right or wrong or society's needs, they just think that if someone like them gets their feelings hurt then the whole fucking world needs to change, even if it's just for one person. There is no morality involved, no sense of principals, only mis-applied empathy, empathy that is reserved for very few people.

It was a two step process. In the first step, we got the internet and it seemed everything we wanted was there for us if we would only ask for it.

Some examples. Porn is a great one. It used to be a bit tricky/embarrassing to get, and you had to pay for it. Now, it's free and incredibly easy to get.

Another example -- information. In the old days if you needed to research an issue you either referred to your collection of books, or, more likely, you had to physically go to a separate building, spending a great deal of time there to look things up and hope you found a good source. Now you can look up any question and have it answered instantly, where you stand.

As a result I think millenials are the most entitled generation in history. Their expectations of life are dramatically raised over those of other generations. Conversely they are not at all used to being disappointed, to being denied. So they typically have a hair-trigger sense of being wronged. I suspect this is why so many millenials commit suicide when bullied. They have no ability to cope with conflict or being treated unfairly or being denied, or, to state is broadly, any form of inconvenience. Because so many things are so convenient.

The second step, of course, is social media, where they are able to proclaim these bunchy feelings of discomfort to a widespread audience, and connect with others who feel the same way, giving their astonishing self-absorption the cache of a movement, or even a crusade.

BUt does anyone have a theory on WHT the millenials' parents were/are so helicopter-ish? WHat was in THEIR upbringing? TIA.

I've said it in topics here before, but as Millenial myself (born in '88, although I've always considered myself Generation Y and Millenials the '94-'04 generation), Millenials are NOT ignorant as to how spoiled and pampered they are by helicopter parents. We are aware and there is a lot of resentment for it, which manifests itself in a lot of upper/middle class SJWs that are trying to make up for this by going after what they see as injustices in the greater community. By and large, they're not from these communities however, and so they frequently have no sense of proportion, devoting as much anger to say a racist Halloween costume or other Microagressions, as they would to something like police brutality and systemic poverty.

R25 here: Sorry; "WHT" supposed to be "WHY".

R25: Their parents are Boomers, a.k.a. the most arrogant generation in history. Don't forget, helicopter parenting is not about the child's worth. It's about the parent's. "MY child could not be unsuccessful or unhappy." is what their main concern is. Emphasis on my.

The parents are self-centered and very materialistic. They are the ones hassling the retail clerks and airline staff - they want everyone to jump for them because they are so self-centered. They see their kids as another consumer item they own AND an extension of themselves and that is why they are in their lives so much. It's all about them. And this is compounded by the times the millennials have grown up in as mentioned at R23-R24.

two generations of inflated egos

It is true that the students we see protesting are laughably entitled. But it's important to remember that they are inspired by a group of tenured professors who use them to further their own institutional ends. More diverse faculty in the humanities! They are the real problem.

Yes, the faculty is really bad, too.

It must be rough for any true (serious) scholar at university these days.

It has nothing to do with this or that generation and everything to do with the ease with which like-minded people are able to find each other as a result of the advent of the internet and social media. It also doesn't hurt that the media and political partisans ( who aren't millennials) encourage and fund the "crazy" because they see it as good for ratings and good for their political party.

They are spoiled children with no understanding of reality. Cocooned from real poverty, oppression, marginalisation, starvation, rape, war etc., they have never experienced anything to give them a sense of proportion. No one ever said no. No one ever told them they weren't the most precious snowflake. No one was allowed to lose at sports day (you are ALL winners!). No one ever told them tough titties kid, grow up. Validation of any and all bizarre, entitled demands is only a tweet away.

They're fucked.

R28, got it spot on. It's the parents ego.

r23 WINS!!!!!!!

ARE their parents Boomers????

I would think that would be their grandparents.

R36, you make a good point but it all depends, doesn't it, on what age the parents have their kids. BOoomers (of which I am one, though childless (thank God), I think, have had kids later in life than the generation before. Not just boomers; Gen X. For example, my brother and SIL had their first daughter at 23/21. But said daughter and her husband were 30/40. And there have been any number of women over the years having babies at 36, 40, 42. Men; don't GET me started! f---ing Frank Gifford (RIP) at 60; etc., etc.

So I think you're right, R36, and others are right.

[quote]I am technically a millennial

You can't technically be a Millennial, just like you can't technically be an idiot. You are an idiot.

It's Generation Jones or Gen X. I suspect more Gen X parents.

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Eric Klebold and Dylan Harris were also millennials, and hardly the sensitive SJW type...

Just saying.

There is a very wide range of millennials today as any other generation.

r28 is an annoying millennial spouting out misinformation. So fucking typical!

The SJWs aren't sensitive!

Yes they are.

Since the vast majority of college professors aren't anything close to a millennial, millennials can hardly be held responsible for the mainstreaming of cultural Marxism on college campuses( something that started before most millennials were even born). They aren't teaching themselves. Therefore, I agree with those who cited the Internet and social media for the mainstreaming of extremism whether that be tea party, right wing extremism or campus protest movements. Extremists and crazies have always existed( just look at the long in the tooth crazies this site attracts) it's just that now they have a highly efficient way of finding each other.

They were coddled by parents and never really taught how to survive on their own. They also are unemployable for good jobs (unless they know tech) because they don't have proven skills or real life experience. They also are indifferent to actuall suffering, unless it's SJW protest bullshit where they vent but don't know how to problem solve.

I doubt that Gen X started having kids in the early 80s.

All my straight friends did r48.

I think it is the people just before Gen X

Well that settles that, r49.

Wiki:

"Gen X, is the generation born after the Western Post–World War II baby boom. Demographers and commentators use birth dates ranging from the early 1960s to the early 1980s."

Clearly they are old enough to have kids in the 80's. DUH!!!!!!

Every generation begats the next one: Boomers, Gen X, Millenials.

read the links and you'd see GenX spans from the 60's to the 80's.

fucktard r51.

I'm a millennial and I was in college 03-07. We were worried about terrorism, the Iraq war and Bush's reelection. Not "300 years ago a slave owner donated money to the university I chose to attend and I don't understand why the dean isn't getting fired because my feelings are hurt."

They're bored and they've never experienced actual pain or suffering, so they invent offenses against them to have something to complain about.

Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation or Generation Y) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends; most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

Boomers - neglected kids

Gen X - coddled kids

Millenials - Live at home, can't afford kid

Generation Jones - Forgotten kids.

You mean the "article" that cites both 61 and 65 as the beginning of Gen X with the most recent survey citing 65 as the start of Gen X, r54? I can't take anyone seriously who thinks boomers ( many being in their 20s in the 80s) just suddenly stopped having children ( perhaps everyone in your trailer park had all of their kids between 12-14 but that doesn't represent the rest of us). I would tell you to grow up ( an adult using 6th grade language like fucktard?) but you already would have if it were possible. You're a mess of crazy.

A lot of Gen X did not have kids, could not afford kids, or if they married, married later. I think it is the tail end of the Boomers

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH!

R25, today's doltish Millennials are not the children of the Boomers, as R28 maintains, they are the grandchildren of the Boomers. Today's parents grew up as Latchkey Kids or with two-income parents who put their kids in day care and told themselves that a bit of "quality time" was all they needed to be good parents.

So the people who grew up in the 70s-90s grew up feeling neglected and unloved, and are begging their kids for the love and attention they never got from their parents. They are also overcompensating for their own feelings of neglect by smothering their kids to the point where the kids hate them for it, they resent their lack of skills and independence. They'll neglect their own kids in turn, I'm sure, these sorts of dysfunctions tend to alternate generations.

I am Generation Jones (just like Obama) and I can vouch that our parents were the worst. Drugs, cigarettes and promiscuity, all while pregnant with additional victims.

Good point r46. Campus ( leftist/marxist) politics have left the boundaries of the campus due to the internet and now everybody is getting a peek behind the curtain. Extremism is now mainstream.

Also global warming, data overload and over population with no gameplan. But, yes, totally agree about social technology factors for current acceleration of extremism.

I think the biggest factor and the one that no one seems to be aware of is this generation was raised on No Child Left Behind, which meant their education was all about rehearsing and getting coached on how to answer tests. The consequence is that tests no longer test students' ability to apply their knowledge in a high-pressure situation; they test coaching, and the expectation that teachers will pre-digest and rehearse tasks with them carries over to other areas of their lives.

Ehh, I'm a millennial and I don't think it's that bad. The SJWs are just loud. VERY loud. Their hearts are in the right place but they're naive if they think the morals of the world are so plainly black and white.

Bless you pilgrim for speaking your young mind. By stepping into the light, you just might have what it takes to make it!

Millennials = 1982 - 2000

Believe it or not, there's a world of difference between the older millennials (who experienced Columbine and the rash of copycat school shootings, 9/11, the Iraq/Afghanistan War), and the little SJW shits in university now (who's greatest trauma is someone offending their poor little feelings).

Older millennials also came of age (during their high school years) at a time when the internet was still a young phenomenon, cellphones were scarce or primitive, and social media did not exist at all. A lot of these younger kids just have no grasp of life before cellphones or Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, whatever else..

That is a big part of it - they have lived their entire lives with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc - and think all of that is real and normal. They cannot sort out the difference between the real and the unreal.

R24 Makes a good point. Before the internet, if you really wanted to research a particular subject you really had to make an effort and look for it, and it wasn't always easy. They don't have to make the effort to look, and they don't have the ability to sort through the information. It's an easy click for information that may not be reliable, or an easy click to something they wanted to hear.

I'm 23 and I have to say, parents and teachers are to blame. I've had teachers and professors who welcome ALL questions and make sure that EVERYONE understood EVERYTHING. we were in our 3rd year of college and I swear other students were playing with their phones the whole time and when the professor wants to move on to the next point he asks if there are any questions they shamelessly ask him to repeat what he just said because they didn't get it and what does he do? he smiles and does just that. fuck the people who were paying attention and want to move on and not waste time. fuck anyone who wants to actually learn something new. some precious snowflake didn't understand what was discussed a month ago so all of the miserable class has to sit through a repeat of the whole chapter. I'm sure he does this to get a good evaluation to get more money because the majority are brainless dummies.

this type of coddling is wrong. not everyone should pass, not everyone should get good grades only the best should and that's how the world should work. bringing up people that have everything they want when they want it with disregard of everything is causing this and it's the parents and the teachers.

parents love to show off and seem like the best parents to their neighbors and friends so they get their kids whatever they want (no concept of working to get what you want or doing anything to deserve it), they don't want to sit and argue with their kids -or god forbid- raise their kids so they just let the kids be rude to them which brings up the entitlement problem everyone is suffering from.

R73, is right; parents and teachers are not showing mature direction. It seems like that is missing from society as a whole.

R22, I hate millennials too, but no one under 50 says "rap" or "rappers" anymore.

[quote]Don't forget, helicopter parenting is not about the child's worth. It's about the parent's. "MY child could not be unsuccessful or unhappy." is what their main concern is. Emphasis on my.

Not only that, but it's just easier to demand their child be given special treatment than actually work with the child. When I taught at a junior high school, there were parents who wanted the school to do everything -- babysit, coddle the kids, give them good grades for no reason, feed them, etc. If that didn't happen, they were yelling and screaming in the hallways. When you got a chance to talk to the parents, the truth always came out: they had no time (or desire) to help their kid or raise them, so an hour at school pitching a fit until tired teachers just gave in was a lot easier than spending an hour every night helping their child with math.

And almost every single one of these Boomer parents were still nursing grudges from their time in school. They would frequently go off about how Mrs. Dinklefwat back in 1964 was mean to them after they wrote that term paper on squirrels and BY GOD no teacher was going to do THAT to THEIR child!!!1!

I still remain convinced that the Millennial generation will eventually shape up. My own GenX generation seems to have given up years ago. I personally haven't but I have zero friends who give a shit about anything. They're just coasting until death and have no problem with that.

Generations are a continuum, R70, not finite, as you noted. Generation Jones shares a lot of traits with GenX even though some of them are old enough to be parents of GenXers, for instance. And some of the older Millennials are more like GenXers than they are younger Millennials.

For instance, I grew up as a latchkey kid with distant parents, but plenty of kids I knew had helicopter parents who smothered and babied them. As I've said on other threads like this, my friends were shocked at these kids living at home until their late 20s, mommy and daddy paying for everything. We made fun of them and boggled at their new-car-a-year lifestyle and daddy going to talk to the Dean about their adult child's grades.

A few years later and it became more common, then by the time the Millennials came of age, it was almost expected. But those GenXers who had mommy and daddy coddling them as far back as the mid-1990s probably have more in common with Millennials, while someone like me who's the same age is more like Generation Jones.

I'm 30+ years older than R73, but he is SO sharp, mature; a credit to his - generation.

I'm a university professor and want to second the praise of [R73]. The spoiled brats of Yale, CMC etc. are the result of coddling, by parents of course, but especially their professors who simply ignore laziness and bad behavior. Because it is easier for them. I make my students work, and take pleasure in their intellectual improvement and increasing ethical depth.

Please don't blame Marxists for this mess; the left is split between the socialist/Marxist left and the idiocies of cultural "progressivism," with departments of African-American Studies, Women and Gender Studies, and American Studies at the center of the storm. As a leftist, I distain the identity-infected left. Todd Giltin and Walter Benn-Michaels are both good reads on this division.

A lot of the sqabbling about which generation raised what is silly. These kids were raised by individuals; some were born to highly educated Boomers using fertility treatments to have kids late in life, some were born to low-achieving Gen Xers who got pregnant on Prom Night 1981. Most were just raised by the moms and dads of the 90s and 00s, who could've been born anywhere from the late 1940s to the early 1980s. I'm sure there are quite a few kids in high school right now who were born to actual millennials. The millennial label itself is getting a bit long in the tooth.

I will say that the most "millennial" of what we think of as millennial stereotypes (SJWs, hipsters, etc.) were mostly raised in affluent, suburban settings with little to no contact with people outside of those bubbles. And it goes without saying that we're talking about white people primarily.

[quote]no one under 50 says "rap" or "rappers" anymore.

What do they say?

They didn't get to roam the streets and play. Their imaginations, limitations, sense of time and self worth are all fucked up. If they did get to play it was supervised team sports.

I wonder how this generation is going to cope with the workplace. You can bet their age peers who had immigrant or working class parents don't have the same issues, they weren't coddled and allowed to freak out at the slightest criticism, they were told to work hard and get ahead!

So while the SJW kids like to rail against class privilege, the fact is that class privilege is really their only hope of establishing a career. Because they're not going to be better workers than their social "inferiors".

[quote]If they did get to play it was supervised team sports.

And EVERYONE got a trophy! Good job, Jaden!

[quote]So while the SJW kids like to rail against class privilege, the fact is that class privilege is really their only hope of establishing a career.

It's all bullshit. They will avoid real work their whole lives due to money, connections etc.

[quote] They didn't get to roam the streets and play. Their imaginations, limitations, sense of time and self worth are all fucked up. If they did get to play it was supervised team sports.

What are you going on about? I rode my bike and skateboarded all across LA - to the beach, mountains, explored Griffith Park. There was no lack of playing or exploration for me or my peers and this was all in the '90s.

If you have tenure, you can flunk anyone you want to. If you don't, you're dependent upon evaluations and no one ever gets castigated for making their course too easy. I understand R73 wanting consequences but the truth is that colleges need your money so we have an incentive to pass you. Doesn't mean we're happy to do it or aren't cursing under our breath how stupid these people are.

In talking to Black students about what was going on at Missouri, and many had friends there, there are a sort of rumor contagion going on that made people feel under attack and as if they were going to be gunned down if they left their dorm rooms. There was no objective basis for them to feel fearful. This is not to trivialize their complaints prior to the president stepping down but something odd was going on during the demonstrations that made people feel embattled when they weren't. Not sure how this connects to millennials--maybe the sense of grandiosity and playing on a national stage. Maybe the inability to objectively evaluate when one is in danger?

A university professor stating that s/he is a leftist is a bit pleonastic.

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These Millenial kids are like Victorian Ladies-with-a-capital-L; coddled, sheltered, prevented from doing anything interesting, spoiled, overprotected... and like Victorian Ladies they're living lives of uselessness and anxiety.

But instead of reacting to the least little thing by calling for their fainting couches and smelling salts, and complaining of their nerves, they're reacting to the least little thing by calling for "safe spaces", Xanax, and complaining of their anxiety disorders.

I liked Stephen Fry's attitude to the phenomenon.

R73, you said that well.

One thing that one of my college students has told me about his generation: "we need adults to be adults." That really stood out to me. I've noticed that the less and less casual I become, the younger students seem to become more invested. My returning Gen X and Boomer aged male students loathe me for it. They want it to be like "just hanging out to talk about movies."

I remember rolling my eyes at fellow grad instructor's (back in the mid-00s) talk of telling their classes about pubcrawls from the night before and hangovers. They HATE hearing about that. They don't want a peer, they want a professor.

There should not be an apostrophe in "instructors." Oh, dear.

R90, I think you're right.

I've met a lot of parents who clearly believe that their children exist solely as extensions of themselves. "If little Jaden is praised, then it validates ME as a parent!" On the other hand, "If little Jaden fails a test, then I look like a failure, and I'm NOT going to let some teacher make ME feel like I've failed!"

The result is that these parents bend over backwards to make sure the child never fails, is never criticized, etc. Rather than protecting the child, however, all that they end up doing is instilling in the kid a belief that he/she can't take care of him/herself. And that's where we get our fragile little snowflakes and their hysterical reactions to perceived "microaggressions."

Frankly, I pity these kids. They're in for a rough time in the real world.

I don't disagree with you, R94, but I don't see this as a particularly new phenomenon. I'm a baby boomer, and my mother treated me as if I were the prototype for the Jaden Justin Snowflakes of the 21st century.

I see what you mean, R95. I was born in 1979 and there's some nasty entitlement and naivete among my age group, too, and I can see how that happened for some of us being raised in the 80s.

Bernie is not that much older than Hillary. Her health issue affects the brain and eye sight. his was just a hernia that was fixed as an outpatient procedure.

Doesn't it depend on the parents and the quality of upbringing? These broad generalizations are tiresome.

Didn't things take a turn 2009-2010 or so?

What I notice with young people (20's) is they need a lot of attention and affirmation. They also seem slightly unmotivated to take on additional responsibilty? They like teams and goofing off.

I'm at the tail end of Boomers. I had a crappy childhood. REALLY crappy. And yet as an adult, I had to suck it up and learn how to deal with the world. I was told over and over that once you're an adult you can't blame your parents for your shit anymore.

So why are the millennials getting a pass because of their childhoods/parenting? BULLSHIT.

Yes, they can move back in with their parents if they can't find a job. The problem is they aren't willing to work at jobs they don't want to work at. They're happy to live with their parents until they find exactly the job/career they want. No sense of getting out on their own and living as adults. I couldn't fucking wait to get out of my parents' house.

Seth MacFarlane actually received flak on Twitter for reposting this cartoon on his account.

^ ha, that's them. It's all about themselves...and nothing.

You know what sucks the most about my oh-so-fabulous, entitled generation (1987) ? They DON'T want to grow up. Gay, straight, male, female – all want to be an adolescent forever, even though we are approaching our thirties now and we should be thinking hard about our career, family, future, responsibilities, etc. But nope: They just want to go out again and get hammered until six in the morning.

[quote]You know what sucks the most about my oh-so-fabulous, entitled generation (1987) ? They DON'T want to grow up. Gay, straight, male, female – all want to be an adolescent forever, even though we are approaching our thirties now and we should be thinking hard about our career, family, future, responsibilities, etc. But nope: They just want to go out again and get hammered until six in the morning.

You aren't lying. Almost every kid at my workplace that was born in the late 80's fits that description. All they talk about is drinking at the bars, when the latest iPhone comes out, what they saw on Facebook, and going on vacation - it's like they never left college life. And all I can think is, "What are you people doing with your lives?" And of course, several of these kids have even admitted that their parents paid for all of their college. They've had everything handed to them and never really had to worry about responsibility.

Do the young ones even have sex, or just use their phone?

Stephen Fry is a somewhat simple-minded loudmouth. The point is that people have a right to not be offended and a responsibility to not be offensive, in general. This however cannot be applied universally and there are legitimate, genuinely offensive things that inspire a certain reaction in us and there are others that are merely in someone's head. The scale of this can be interpersonal interactions and larger social issues. This entire discussion is about millenials' perceived sense of injustice as opposed to "real". Stephen Fry clearly has not been able to extend his thinking to this simple next step. Much of what he says does not amount to any--well, anything.

I was quoting [r91] and not signing off as r91. Sorry.

[quote]Do the young ones even have sex, or just use their phone?

Using their phone must be rather painful for women.

r91 Fry is just saying that because he's dating a teenager.

I bet you're right, R91. But (though I think Frye's husband is slightly past his teenage years) an eighteen year old dating someone several decades older wouldn't be illegal, even if the situation seemed wrong and even offensive to some. So Frye's situation is a good example of why being offended doesn't work.

From a political standpoint, I think it's easier to portray young people as perpetually and disproportionately offended, rather than to suggest that anger and activism sometimes is rooted in more than easily-bruised feelings. Millennials are directly affected by many of the issues older people are choosing to ignore - they struggle to find jobs, and face significantly high amounts of student loan debt. Throughout most of our young years, we've seen money shoveled at a "War on Terror" which is impossible to win, and watched governments bail out big banks while average Americans lost their homes. There are a lot of good reasons for Millennials to be apprehensive about the future and hugely dissatisfied with the status quo, but these concerns are pushed to the side in favor of identity politics. While Millennials generally have a strong sense that everyone should be treated equally (we've also grown up in the midst of a battle for widespread acceptance of gay rights) identity politics are the major motivating factor in Millennial concerns.

"identity are NOT the major motivating factor in Millennial concerns."

It's interesting that the millenial/SJW phenomena is predominantly women complaining about things that men say or do. The only exception to this is the trans vs TERFS.

Have them spend a year living in the third world.

Problem solved

When trans groups have successfully infiltrated the gay rights.

R114 execept when these men are Muslim then all kinds of rape and sexual violence is ok because "it's their culture".

SJW have always existed, it's just that the Internet-and social media in particular- has given them a megaphone. I work with 2 60-something women who are total SJW types; thankfully they don't really know how to use the internet. If they were 40 years younger, they'd be broadcasting their grievances thru their Tumblr and Twitter accounts.

Gay Millennials are nuts. They take huge risks and post it on their social media accounts.

It seemed to be around the time "Girls" premiered.