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Poll Shows Hillary Clinton Is Seen as More Likely Than Bernie Sanders to Be Effective

With the Democratic presidential nomination contest all but officially a two-person race, Hillary Rodham Clinton appears vastly better positioned than Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont to persuade party primary voters that she would be more effective at passing her agenda and dealing with international crises, according to a New York Times/CBS News survey released Thursday.

Mrs. Clinton even undercuts Mr. Sanders on his core political message, with 62 percent of Democratic primary voters saying she could bring about real change in Washington, compared with 51 percent for Mr. Sanders.

The promise of change, always a popular lure in politics, is at the heart of a striking paradox in the Democratic race. Democratic primary voters say that the ability to deliver needed change is the most important quality they seek in a candidate, and Mr. Sanders’s popularity is highest with voters who want change. Yet 60 percent of Democrats also want their nominee to continue President Obama’s policies, and these voters support Mrs. Clinton over Mr. Sanders by about a 2-to-1 margin.

This advantage for Mrs. Clinton may reflect all-around skepticism that Mr. Sanders’s leftist candidacy can prevail: Her party’s primary voters expect Mrs. Clinton to be their eventual nominee by more than a 4-to-1 margin over Mr. Sanders.

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by Anonymousreply 68September 19, 2020 6:33 AM

What kind of moron wants change and wants Obama's policies to continue? How is that change. Hillary everything Obama is and more of the worst parts of him.

Bernie just got big support from a huge union. He'll do okay.

Hillary will not keep any of her "Liberal" promises. She, like her husband always has been, is, and always will look you straight in the eye, (or into the camera) and lie through their 1%, Wall Street, bank loving teeth.

by Anonymousreply 1November 13, 2015 12:46 AM

Is her husband still raping little girls?

by Anonymousreply 2November 13, 2015 12:49 AM

I participated in this poll.

I said what r1 said.

by Anonymousreply 3November 13, 2015 1:41 AM

"And any poll that shows Sanders in a good light is quietly ignored."

Said one of Bill Clinton's rape victims to another, at the annual gathering of Bill Clinton's rape victims.

But, hey, Hillary genuinely cares about all the women who weren't raped by her husband...

by Anonymousreply 4November 13, 2015 2:17 AM

What Mrs? It's Secretary.

by Anonymousreply 5November 13, 2015 2:22 AM

[quote] Hillary will not keep any of her "Liberal" promises. She, like her husband always has been, is, and always will look you straight in the eye, (or into the camera) and lie through their 1%, Wall Street, bank loving teeth.

Bullshit. Hillary was one of the most liberal member of the senate in her time there and has a thirty-year record of supporting progressive policies.

by Anonymousreply 6November 13, 2015 2:35 AM

Don't worry about it, R6. Hillary's doing great. She'll easily take the nomination and the general election. I don't know who these people are, they're probably not even Sanders supporters. More likely they're just right wing assholes trying to make trouble. Those are the only morons who go off ranting and raving about Bill Clinton's "rape victims" or the blowjob or any of that nonsense. Real Bernie Sanders supporters wouldn't do that shit, nor would Sanders himself.

Bernie Sanders has always been a great guy. He was an excellent Representative in the House for a million years and he's an excellent Senator. That is where he will stay unless Hillary thinks he can be effective in a cabinet post (and he wants one).

They always try to make trouble between supporters of one Democratic primary candidate and another. It worked, to an extent, with Hillary/Barack. It won't work with Hillary/Bernie.

by Anonymousreply 7November 13, 2015 2:44 AM

I love Bernie and would vote for him over Hillary, but he needs to wise up when it comes to his campaign. He needs to stop using the word socialist. Most people in America don't know what the word means and don't understand it. So no matter what Bernie does or says they will never vote for a socialist. These people are stupid and will continue to vote against their own interests, but that's America for you. You can't change these people. They are ignorant and proud of that fact

by Anonymousreply 8November 13, 2015 3:09 AM

I wish the Clintons would go away. And bring Jebbie with them. Just disappear, close shop, stay away from cameras, no more self-serving books, no more SUPERPAC funding and IOUs for the next 8 years, and take Chelsea and loopy hubby with them.

Jebbie - Go back to Florida and do "some cool things" - stuff that's way more cool than giving mind-numbing speeches that nobody listens to and takes seriously anyway.

by Anonymousreply 9November 13, 2015 3:14 AM

The trouble with Bernie A moralizing scold, but for the left

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by Anonymousreply 10January 19, 2016 2:42 AM

Trump 'could be unstoppable' if he wins Iowa

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by Anonymousreply 11January 26, 2016 8:51 PM

Hillary knows how to work the system after all these years so i'd agree she'd be more effective.

by Anonymousreply 12January 26, 2016 9:03 PM

God the Hillary HQ staffers are so sad.

by Anonymousreply 13January 26, 2016 9:15 PM

Yeah because a person's effectiveness is based not on THEIR actions but what others think.

What a stupid thread.

by Anonymousreply 14January 26, 2016 9:53 PM

I'm worried because I just had my good suit pants dry-cleaned and pressed, and when Hillary captures the Democratic Nomination, so many heads will be exploding! I don't want any of that mess on me!

by Anonymousreply 15January 26, 2016 10:22 PM

Trump pulls out of Republican debate Thursday in Iowa...FUCK Fox & Megan Kelly that bitch cunt! Good for TRUMP even though I'm voting for HILLARY!

by Anonymousreply 16January 27, 2016 2:23 AM

I have had it with naive Bernie Sanders idealists

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by Anonymousreply 17January 27, 2016 3:02 AM

OP, that's just a huge DUH!

And I repeat no one gives a shit about New Hampshire or Iowa. They are meaningless. They are completely unrepresentative of voters.

Iowa still makes it choice by pounding the table with their fists and stomping the floor with their snow boots. N'est-ce pas?

by Anonymousreply 18January 27, 2016 5:07 AM

HRC 4 Clinton

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by Anonymousreply 19January 27, 2016 5:40 AM

Goldman Sachs has paid Hillary $675,000 for three speaking engagements.

She is as crooked as they are.

by Anonymousreply 20January 27, 2016 6:16 AM

I honestly don't have a problem with it. I'm not a crazed purist acting as if world famous well-known people don't get asked to speak for big bucks.

by Anonymousreply 21January 27, 2016 6:19 AM

So sick of corporate-controlled establishment media mouthpieces that are still trying to make Hillary happen, when it's clear the silent majority of people don't want her shriveled, dust-laden uterus anywhere near the Oval Office.

by Anonymousreply 22January 27, 2016 9:25 AM

[quote]And I repeat no one gives a shit about New Hampshire or Iowa. They are meaningless. They are completely unrepresentative of voters.

Actually, the early states can sometimes have a big impact.

It was Iowa that set Obama on the path to the Presidency.

And it was New Hampshire that revived Hillary's campaign and created the epic Hillary vs. Obama race.

by Anonymousreply 23January 27, 2016 10:06 AM

Yeah, effective in being a lying Cunt.

by Anonymousreply 24January 27, 2016 10:09 AM

That's politics, R24.

by Anonymousreply 25January 27, 2016 5:27 PM

I am so surprised by the outcry of Repubs on DL? I seriously thought the majority are Dems? HUH!?

by Anonymousreply 26January 27, 2016 11:36 PM

you go gurl ~ H I L L A R Y shaken' it werk!

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by Anonymousreply 27January 28, 2016 2:45 AM

The problem is, she's a dislikable cunt.

by Anonymousreply 28January 28, 2016 4:23 AM

Shut up, Trump.

by Anonymousreply 29January 28, 2016 5:07 AM

[quote]I am so surprised by the outcry of Repubs on DL? I seriously thought the majority are Dems? HUH!?

There's been an odd burst of pro-right wing sentiment here over the past several months.

Not sure whether it is just trolling, or what it is about.

It wasn't like this before.

by Anonymousreply 30January 28, 2016 5:09 AM

More effective in breaking the law and committing idiotic blunders...

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by Anonymousreply 31January 30, 2016 1:56 AM

Link corrected

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by Anonymousreply 32January 30, 2016 2:04 AM

Next week will be real bad for her.

by Anonymousreply 33January 30, 2016 2:06 AM

[quote] I am so surprised by the outcry of Repubs on DL? I seriously thought the majority are Dems? HUH!?

It could just as easily be the Bernbots as the reich-wingers; they share some similarities.

I really hope that she wins in Iowa in part just to shut them the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 34January 30, 2016 2:09 AM

Last night in Iowa, Clinton spoke only for 5 minutes to an audience who had waited for hours in the cold to hear her speak.

by Anonymousreply 35January 30, 2016 2:10 AM

Of course.

by Anonymousreply 36January 30, 2016 2:12 AM

Do we have a link to this report, R35?

by Anonymousreply 37January 30, 2016 6:41 AM

How many times does Bernie Sanders have to get caught cheating before we admit there’s a problem?

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by Anonymousreply 38January 30, 2016 6:53 AM

The Case Against Bernie Sanders

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by Anonymousreply 39January 30, 2016 7:03 AM

Well, the vote in Iowa is only a couple of days away now!

by Anonymousreply 40January 30, 2016 7:05 AM

Why Bernie Sanders Still Doesn’t Pose a Critical Threat to Hillary Clinton

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by Anonymousreply 41January 30, 2016 7:14 AM

Gaily Sheehey wrote in the NY Times that the Clintons echo Eleanor and Franklin as well as Bonnie and Clyde. I like that!

by Anonymousreply 42January 30, 2016 2:43 PM

Bernie supporters really need to come to grips with this basic fact:

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by Anonymousreply 43January 30, 2016 3:34 PM

NY Times today:

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by Anonymousreply 44January 30, 2016 4:11 PM

Did Gail Sheehey have anything else to say, R42?

by Anonymousreply 45January 30, 2016 6:55 PM

So if all you fuckers hate Hillary, Bernie, Trump, Cruz....who the HELL do you want as POTUS!?

—#millennialdem

by Anonymousreply 46January 31, 2016 4:32 AM

I support Hillary Clinton, but the Gail Sheehey comment at R42 does make me laugh.

(I also see a bit of King Henry and Eleanor of Acqutaine in the Clintons sometimes. I imagine 1998 had a lot of "Lion in Winter" type moments in the White House).

by Anonymousreply 47January 31, 2016 4:41 AM

I don't know who Bill & Hillary resemble in terms of historical figures.

All I know is that they are preferable to having the Bush Family back in the White House (or any other Republican family).

by Anonymousreply 48January 31, 2016 5:10 AM

Sydney Harcourt & Hillary...Me and the Prez '16 :)

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by Anonymousreply 49January 31, 2016 6:14 AM

i believe that jeb! will make real change in washington.

change in the wrong direction

by Anonymousreply 50February 1, 2016 5:30 AM

You believe Jeb is the wrong choice so you're not voting for Hillary, R50?

by Anonymousreply 51February 1, 2016 5:33 AM

your intelligence and perspicacity overwhelms me, [R51].

by Anonymousreply 52February 1, 2016 5:35 AM

re: R43 "looming deficits as the population ages"

social security is a joke already, payments are laughably low, unliveable. i'd argue that "an aging population" is much preferable to a "growing population" in the face to global warming tho.

i don't honestly believe that sanders will do any of the things that he's promising, but i like that he's ambitious. hillary supported the goddamn tpp until, like, a month ago for chrissakes. anyhow, the taxes he's suggesting seem necessary and reasonable.

by Anonymousreply 53February 1, 2016 5:39 AM

If Bernie had FDR's charisma, I would have more confidence in him.

But I'm not sure he can pull out what FDR did in the 1930's.

by Anonymousreply 54February 1, 2016 5:41 AM

To Students and Millennials: Take Another Look at Hillary Clinton

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by Anonymousreply 55February 1, 2016 5:56 AM

Bookies Predicting Presidential Elections With 91% Accuracy Say The Winner Will Be….HILLARY vs. RUBIO

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by Anonymousreply 56February 1, 2016 6:27 AM

R50 makes no sense.

"I hate spaghetti therefore I'm not going to eat broccoli."

Whut?

by Anonymousreply 57February 1, 2016 7:11 AM

Hillary Clinton will be elected president today

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by Anonymousreply 58February 1, 2016 7:21 PM

The bookies aren't very bright if they put 9-2 ahead of 3-1.

by Anonymousreply 59February 1, 2016 8:06 PM

Ick.

by Anonymousreply 60February 1, 2016 8:12 PM

Why I’m Supporting Hillary Clinton, With Joy and Without Apologies

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by Anonymousreply 61February 1, 2016 10:16 PM
by Anonymousreply 62August 11, 2019 9:19 AM

I'm sure R62 had a good reason to bump this ancient thread and isn't trying to stir shit up AT ALL.

by Anonymousreply 63August 11, 2019 9:23 AM

^Precisely. Fuck off, R62.

by Anonymousreply 64August 11, 2019 9:27 AM

Hillary is a very effective Republican.

by Anonymousreply 65August 11, 2019 9:58 AM

Wouldn't it be funny though, if all these lame ass candidates participate in the discussions, spend millions on their campaigns and then Clinton decides to run for president a week before the primaries and wins the nomination? With the current choices the democrats have to offer, I could see this happening.

by Anonymousreply 66August 11, 2019 11:00 AM

"Effective" seems to be damning with faint praise. Icepick lobotomies were effective.

by Anonymousreply 67September 19, 2020 6:12 AM

2015 bump troll is at it. Three Hillary thread so far. Blocked!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 68September 19, 2020 6:33 AM
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